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PMS 2.0 - NFL Week 5 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk
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AJ Hawk
Friday feel good. Friday, October 3rd is the Pat McAfee Show. I am AJ Hawk sitting in for.
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Pat McAfee
Pat at his desk.
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AJ Hawk
He's at Tuscalooska this weekend. Boys football, it's a beautiful thing. Last night we saw Kirk and Al call a beautiful game. The Niners find a way to win 26, 23. We thought there might be another over or another tie ball game. I should say there was. This was an overtime, Obviously, we thought we might get two tie ball games within what, the span of four or five days. That would have been wild. NFL is rolling. Baseball is rolling. Yankees are moving, moving on to the next round. Mr. Ty Schmidt. And Pat is down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Pat, where are you? And this thing looks amazing, man. What's going on?
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Pat McAfee
I'm in Teatown, AJ and obviously Sean McVay didn't want to have another tie either. He said, I'm going to go ahead and go for this thing. We ain't tying this up. With 3 minutes and some left in this particular ball game, that'd be bad for the league, that'd be bad for the NFC west. That'd be bad for the game in general. And I him making that decision. But he certainly blamed himself. There was a lot of other things that could certainly be to blame for the San Francisco 49ers getting a massive win last night, including Mac Jones is an absolute monster Kyle Shanahan system. Mac Jones has an opportunity here to have the second career that all these other quarterbacks have been having. Obviously, we look at Baker Mayfield and we say, wow, look what Baker's done. He's become the guy in Tampa. They said he's the franchise. They've paid him as such. They've treated him as such. He's going on to do his thing. Danny Dimes in Indianapolis, this guy might win the mvp. Mvp. Sam Darnold, first in Minnesota, then out there in Seattle, and now we're with Jared Goff whenever he goes up there to Detroit. Now we're witnessing Mac Jones in his greatest form. Mac Jones, we remember him from his rookie campaign where he was so damn good for New England. He was gradient at the Pro Bowl. He was laughing, he was kicking people in the balls. It was fun. It was fun. This guy out of Alabama had one of the most prolific college football seasons in the history of college football with Sark as his offensive coordinator. And everybody thought he was going number three to San Francisco until draft day. Whenever we were told by a source, I said that wrong with a before there. But we were Told by somebody, hey, it ain't Mac Jones. Mac Jones ain't going number three. So we go on our little Internet show that obviously before ESPN didn't exist in a lot of people's minds that wear suits, and we say, hey, our source are telling us that Mac Jones ain't going three. At that exact moment, the draft odds for him to go number three. And then everybody else kind of just went absolute haywire. Then we sat around and waited to see if our source says were right, if we're doing actual journalism. And it turned out Trey Lance goes number three and Mac Jones falls. And he didn't look as cool as he looked last night, certainly, but on draft night, he certainly looked the part for New England. And what happened up there was a little bit of success. Then defensive coordinator and a special teams coach become his offense coordinator and his quarterback coach. It ends up failing miserably. He ends up leaving there, bouncing down to Jackson. Then now he's getting an opportunity with the guy who potentially wanted him in the first place, but then got talked out of it with so much upside of Trey Lance, and with the massive amount of success that he's having right now, you have to wonder if Shanahan sits down at night with that cool, flat bill, which I assume he sleeps with on, and he says to himself, I knew it. This guy is the right one for me. And it does feel like in this system, he is perfect. AJ I mean, they had injuries galore, obviously. Christian McCaffrey is one of the most dynamic players. DeMarcus Robinson last night, Bourne last night, I mean, you name it, you go to Fungus, Tongus, whatever the hell his name is in for Kittle, he's going crazy. And then obviously the Juice is out there doing his thing. But watching Mac Jones in this offense with what he has learned, what he has, what he's capable of doing, it's just like a perfect marriage. And I don't know how many times Shanahan has wondered what if, what if, what if from the very beginning. But maybe after those stops, Mack needed that to get to this point. So maybe it's not a fair judgment of this Mack versus rookie Mack, but damn, this Mack looks really good for this Niners team. And they get a huge win and obviously cover eight and a half point spread, which Shanahan was pissed off about. Allegedly, Shanahan went up to Mac Jones at 4 and said, I can't believe they made the spread from three to eight and a half. They're disrespecting us. And Matt Goes, I don't even know what that means. I agree. And they go out there and do it. AJ I like the cut of the jib of this Niners team, and I like it more this particular year whenever Mac Jones is in there playing, as opposed to banged up Brock Purdy, who's also worth $200 million. AJ it's interesting dynamic out there, but huge win for the Niners on a Thursday.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, gigantic win. I tell you what, Kendrick Bourne is not too upset either, that Mac Jones in there. What he goes for 10 receptions, 142 yards playing well. I know he's had some drop issues, so he wanted to get back on track and he did last night. But, yeah, how Max spreads the ball around, I think how quickly he gets rid of the ball is impressive to me. When was it when he dropped back at one point, he couldn't even follow through. And he gets rid of this thing early and he has a high, this high follow through like he. He's feeling it, man. Like, you could tell he was in the zone in between plays. If you watch him, he's sitting here listening to the next play coming in instantly and just head down, giving like, oh, 11 personnel, whatever we're doing. He just seems to be on a mission. And I just love. Look how quick, like right there where he sees. He sees what he needs.
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Pat McAfee
Boom.
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AJ Hawk
Get rid of the ball. Like, he's not thinking at all. I feel like whatever the system, whatever they're doing with him there, he's got. He's. This is where he's most comfortable so far. I guess it feels like within his NFL career.
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Pat McAfee
I love it. And on the other side with McVay, I know obviously missed extra point. Blocked extra point is a big topic of conversation. I do think it is worthy of a conversation going forward with Carty, who I think is an immense talent. Obviously this block happens last night, it ends up going to overtime, they end up losing. Everybody's going to examine every single point, especially whenever it's extra point. You should just get that. Feels like he was pulling that a little bit, right? I mean, edit the outside arm. Maybe it sneaks into the left side of the upright, but that felt like a little bit like a pull. And then you go back to Philadelphia on his block kick, his second block kick of that particular game. This one was going to be pulled too, I think. I think almost like Jordan Davis blocking that, then scooping it and scoring. It potentially camouflages that ball looks like it's potentially going left. Now, granted. Does it come back I'm not 100% sure. I'm really worried about Cardi. I think Carti's an incredible talent, but I think them having him hit that squib that he hits and obviously that thing dies early last night, which is the roll of the dice with a squib. Especially, you know, this happening in overtime. Not great news to have a 40 yard start, 40 yard line start. But with the squib, that is the thing. You can't control the distance as well. That thing might nose dive early and if it does that, obviously it's treated like it's a kick out of bounds. You had put that thing on the 40. They're two first downs in this modern NFL away from a field goal. Cairo hits a fucking 59 yarder. I don't know if any of us knew that he could do that after. And then Banks won in. It's like Carty hitting those fat balls, those knuckle balls on kickoffs has been very good for the Rams, has gotten a lot of attention, has gotten a lot of positive hype for this new kickoff, which I appreciate and agree. Squib's been around a long time. This is certainly a good time to have a great squib. Carty certainly does that. He has been a menace on these things for people. But I think I don't like the kicker seeing hitting fat balls all the time. I don't like kickers.
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AJ Hawk
You've been talking about this for a while, Pat. For weeks you've been talking about this like how it will. It can possibly affect kickers. But I guess what is. What is the. What else can you do? Hopefully your punter can hit these squibs. A kicker is never going to tell the coach, hey, I can't do this. But you're right. Like we're seeing in real time, we're seeing it affect everything. Like it seems we didn't think about.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, maybe, maybe it's a part of it. So early in his thing, but he seemingly is hitting fat balls right that are in fat balls go left. You know, if you hit one thin, it goes right here, one fat which is a little bit towards the middle. Probably it's going to pull that golf right. Well because it's on your foot longer, so it's on your foot longer. So whichever, you know, you pull it, slingshot it whenever you hit it thin, it's on there shorter amount of time so it's going to push. You're trying to have it that perfect sweet spot so it just goes in a perfect trajectory. So I think him hitting a fat ball every single time he hits a kickoff isn't necessarily, for me, mentally the greatest thing. But he's a talent, he's a weapon, so he's going to keep doing it. I think every punter should learn how to hit a squid. Every punter should be learning how to hit a swipe because the leg swing on a squib, which is a kick off the ground, obviously. So field goal kicker operation punter, ball out of the air. Field goal kicker, ball off the ground. Not every punter can kick. Not every kicker can punt. But every punter doesn't have to worry about hitting a pure ball for a field goal. So if they just want to hit a fat ball and have bad technique and just send that thing into a squib, it's like. I think punters should get into that. I think especially Ethan Evans out there in L. A. He's squatting like 800 pounds. I couldn't even imagine the knuckle he could put on a ball if he was to hit it as hard as he possibly could. So I think that'll be the evolution. But I thought it was a great game last night, genuinely. Let's go to the toxic table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. And, Ty, congratulations to your Yankees. We'll certainly talk about that here in just a few moments. But con man Mac Jones. McCorkle Jones, you love. You got his jersey. Okay. Year one.
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Boston Conner
All three of them.
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Pat McAfee
All three of them. All 3. Okay. Okay. I apologize.
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AJ Hawk
They're at Goodwill now if you want them.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. You can get those for 7.993 at the most. Three for 10 bucks, one for 799. You could. You lost faith in the Mac Jones experience up there in New England. I think everybody kind of did. But at the beginning, there was a lot of promise for literally everything he's doing with the Niners right now. Right. Isn't that kind of the. The thought of what. What Mac Jones could be and the hope of what Mac Jones could be. He is right now it feels like.
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Boston Conner
Yeah, a thousand percent. Like, when it comes to quarterback development, it feels like that's kind of a hot topic right now. Mack is kind of the epitome of the opposite of what you're supposed to do. You mentioned you bring in a, you know, D.C. and special teams guy to call plays for a dude who, you know, his rookie year was with McDaniels and the year before that was at Alabama setting records. I don't know if that exactly makes sense. For Bill Belichick, but, hey, he won six Super Bowls. It's awesome. Like, Kendrick Bourne doing what he was doing was incredible. I think Mac Jones, I mean, I don't know, is he going to be the starter? Is he not? I think the only team that would probably take Purdy's contract is like, the Cleveland Browns because they don't know what the hell they're doing. And, you know, maybe Dylan Gabriel and Shadir Sanders, one of those two have a great season. History would tell us the Cleveland Browns have no idea how to pick a quarterback, but that guy right there is the real star of this team. McCaffrey. Everything goes through him. They're not running the ball that well, but he's still getting involved in the pass game. It's. It's just one of those things. Where does it even really matter who's at quarterback for the Niners because of Shanahan? Obviously it does, but I'm excited to see what happens. This is a early storyline with two quarterbacks, and this is kind of one of those things where, hey, are the Niners going to make the right decision? Is Shanahan going to make the decision? Like, who is going to be the one that pulls the trigger? Because even Mac Jones after. And I don't know if we have his press conference because he has a really, really cool suit on that everybody should see. Looks like Harley Quinn.
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Pat McAfee
Respectfully, we saw it. We showed him walking in. Walking, yeah. Awesome.
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Boston Conner
But, yeah, here's his presser talking about Purdy.
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Pat McAfee
Before the game, there was a report that Brock could be out a few more games. Do you feel like the starting job, you're the starter now and that's just the way you have to view it.
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Nick Saban
I think, you know, they brought me here to play as a backup and that's my job. And Brock's the starter of this team, and right now he's dealing with something. And for him to go out there last week and play when, you know, he probably wasn't a full health, like, he cares about this team. So I'm just trying to get some wins for him so it helps us down the line. And at the end of the day, that's what it's all about. Like, I've been in his position, I've been a starter. And you want your backup to go in there and win because at the end of the season, that could be the hit or miss between a playoff or not.
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AJ Hawk
So saying all the right things, right?
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Pat McAfee
Love the mindset. Love the mindset there. I appreciate him looking Looking out for Brock too. That answer is looking out for Brock. Right. Don't you think? Con man. Right?
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Boston Conner
Yeah. Like they're still on the same team. It sucks. And I, you know, you. You listen to like Sam Darnold and he said Brock Purdy is huge for his development. So I don't think it's just one of those things where like Purdy is completely shoved to the side, but if he played and then re. Aggravated his injury, like, why don't they wait, at least get him 100% healthy and then maybe see. See what happens. But Max not healthy either. I mean, he was banged up on the sidelines too. So yeah, who knows?
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Pat McAfee
He was struggling through. He was struggling through. He looked like he was a little bit of a zombie there, walking at the end. They won that game and it was oh, from Mac is what you saw. And then he. Then somebody was like, hey, we're happy. We're happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I'm excited to see what the injury report says coming out of last night's game. And he's got a lot of structure on that left knee there. Him popping up and jogging off. Obviously good for the boys here, but I. The. The Shanahan team last night, incredibly tough. Let's go to one half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP tone, what was the money? What did the money end up being last night? And I know me and A.J. were both right. A.J.
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AJ Hawk
Yes, I know. Absolutely.
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Pat McAfee
You two. Undefeated. A.J.
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AJ Hawk
Want to know.
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AP Tone
You two are in the minority. It closed 58% on the Rams. So chalk up another one for the spot. Sportsbooks. I think it's like 10 and 25 now that they. The sports books or. Sorry, the public has gone when it's 58 to 60% or more. So yeah, just another one for the sports books last night, Pat and a lot of people were on the under and you know, the people got screwed on that one because it went to overtime and went over and overtime. So, you know, all around. Good night for the sports book.
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Pat McAfee
It's. It never stops for them. I didn't even get a chance to chit chat about where I am right here. Okay. I'm in the. I'm in the brand new entrance tunnel here. So if you were to zoom out a little bit on this thing, I think I'm on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
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AJ Hawk
That leads to the field.
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Pat McAfee
They just debuted this. They just debuted this two weeks ago and they just redid it. Yes. It leads right to the field. Obviously. Locker room right here. They had another One, I guess they had all the titles across the bottom. They moved it to the top. Obviously, there's a company that comes in here and has redone a lot of things. I think a lot of these. These buildings. The light show that they have just for the letters here and then across the top and then there is just a. I assume there's going to be speakers. It is smoke. It's a part. Yeah, A.J. this is a part of the show. I think Ohio State has. Ohio State has the old. I don't think they've changed anything. Right? Have they?
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AJ Hawk
They've updated. It used to be like a concrete tunnel with a little, like, awning over it. Now it's a big permanent awning. They got lights, they got smoke. It's not like that exactly, but it's pretty sweet.
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AP Tone
AJ Was worried about the shellacre on the concrete there with spikes is what it feel like.
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Dan Orlovsky
Put some rubber flooring down.
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AJ Hawk
They got to lay some temporary rubber flooring.
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Pat McAfee
Right?
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AJ Hawk
You don't want to be sliding around with your cleats. Oh, okay.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's very st. Very slick. That's a good call, aj. It is a little slick. I'll tell you what, though. I felt like a champion. I felt like a champion.
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AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Run it down.
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Dan Orlovsky
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Felt pretty good. I felt alive. I felt alive right there, AJ did you feel it?
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AJ Hawk
I did feel.
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AP Tone
Sweet home Alabama's playing while you're standing in the tunnel, ready to come out.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I could hear him, Tennessee, whoever they were saying first. Yeah, it is Vandy coming to town. Crazy Vandy, big game. I mean, that's awesome. That. That's for Vandy. And we talked about this a lot this morning in, like, the production meeting or whatever. I think they got some money, aj.
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AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
I think Vandy has some money from what I've been gathering. But also they have a commercial. Last year they had a commercial. Hey, we can be a team. Diego, obviously, awesome on New Mexico State. He changed the entire culture going into the transfer port era here in the off season. Hey, we can be a team. Nashville is really easy to sell, too, with how awesome that city is. They got money. It's like, wait, is Vandy now? Wait a minute. Is Vandy about to be, like, legit going forward? It's like everybody's like, yes, yes, they absolutely are. So that's great for college ball, aj.
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AJ Hawk
It's great for college ball, great for the sec. I mean, they've already had so much depth. I feel like now, like, if Vandy can be A consistent contender year in and year out. Yeah, that's gigantic for. But I guess this is a huge test on a huge national stage and we'll see what they're ten and a half point dogs. They're probably pretty upset about that.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I would assume they feel a little jaded as Stanford Steve said something to me and Gumpy on the way out of the meeting. Now obviously Vandy being good is good for the SEC as a whole. The SEC needs Texas to be Florida, right?
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Tone, why did he say that? I agree with what he's saying, but why exactly do you think he's saying that?
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AP Tone
I think it's because Florida's reputation right now and record is not good at all. So if Texas loses to Florida, the SEC could potentially lose a playoff team for the, for the playoffs. So like they need their good teams to keep beating teams that are not going to be in the playoff, if that makes sense. They can't have these lesser teams who aren't going to be in the playoff pick off the top teams and cause them to miss the playoff as well. Because then, you know, the whole Big Ten versus thing is only going to get louder because you know, there's a lot of the high quality teams like the, the top tier teams are in the Big Ten. So I mean, yes, the SEC is probably the deeper conference, but at the top, the SEC needs to get as many teams they can in the playoff, I believe.
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Pat McAfee
And AJ how's the Big Ten feel? Obviously with Indiana being all the way back, it is certainly a good. Who's doing the cuts there? That was pretty cinematic. Well, it was X was it was. It was that score. Are we.
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AJ Hawk
Who's getting artsy?
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Pat McAfee
Whoa. Yeah, that's potentially my ring. The real wonder is, you know, with the, the Big Ten, obviously Indiana, great team. Right. We're all just assuming Indiana is going to be good for the foreseeable future. The Big Ten is only getting deeper and they got a lot of money. So to Tone's point and to I guess Stanford Steve's point, it's like SEC needs their big dogs to be big dogs. AJ And I assume the Ohio State faithful are peacocking because they've been number one. Have been number one and are the reigning national champs and just ended the 22 home game win streak for Washington last week. They got a big one against Minnesota this week. Don't let Minnesota sneak up on you, Ohio State. But it's like the Big Ten is almost the cock of the walk right now. And it feels like the Big Ten knows that, aj.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, I think they. They do know that, but they're also, like, they're. They're cautiously optimistic because they know it doesn't truly matter until the playoffs start. Like, yeah, this is great, but this just puts us in position for when it. When it actually matters at the end of the season. So I think that's how most Especially the top tier Big Ten teams.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen joining us now, there's this conversation happening right literally right behind the cameras here. I hope they get it. I hope they get it figured out. I do. I do. What are they saying? Who the hell is changing all these cameras? We don't know who's got this up. I don't know. It's great, people. These people have done an incredible job. This is. Is the by far the best setup we've had all year. And I think. I do believe clock right on time. So, I mean, they see. Let's go. Well, I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I don't know yet. Hold on. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Knock him away, A.J. look at that clock above you. Is it 19? 14, 15, 16? Yeah. 17. Wow.
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AJ Hawk
Spot on.
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Pat McAfee
Wow.
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Dan Orlovsky
Boom.
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Pat McAfee
Can we hit this thing right here? Can we hit these, please?
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Thought he had it. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Great people. Obviously, incredible spot here. Lucky to be a part of it. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who was taking a victory lap last night because of a take that he had being accurate. Now, a lot of people would say in baseball, if you bat.300, you make it into the hall of Fame. In sports Media, if you bat.05, I think you're considered to be great. Ladies and gentlemen, the pundit of all pundits, the face of the NFL for espn. Ladies and gentlemen, football guru, quarterback expert Dan Orloff. Dan. Oh, I saw the victory lineup last night. Yeah? Yeah.
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Dan Orlovsky
It was a great 1.05.
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Pat McAfee
You take a lot of takes, brother. Okay. You take a lot of takes. You do a lot of takes. A lot of TV time. Yeah. Okay. I'm not doing it. I don't need to hear that. Okay. I saw a couple people go after you, Stephen Jackson included. I don't think you want smoke with Steven Jackson. I don't need you miming anything right now. Okay. I don't need the mime thing to take place. Okay. Yep. Not doing it. Okay. Don't it. That's not how quarterbacks operate, brother. You said it yourself. That is not how quarterbacks operate. What What?
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Dan Orlovsky
I said, what?
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Ty Schmidt
This guy's connection sucks.
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Nick Saban
Geez.
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AJ Hawk
This is real gimmick.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, man.
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AP Tone
So he was not parabiving. He was.
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Ty Schmidt
That was actually.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. I thought he was. That would have been too.
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AJ Hawk
I thought he was, too.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, that way. We gave him way too much credit.
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AJ Hawk
You gave him way too much credit.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I thought we worked ourselves into a shoot there, brother. No, because his face glitched. Unless it was my tv.
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Ty Schmidt
No, you were correct. No, he was glitching, ladies.
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Pat McAfee
He was back.
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AP Tone
There he is.
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Dan Orlovsky
All right, this is. This is what happened. This is what happened. Okay, I did not hear you, because my wife went for a run. She said, can you pick me up at the beach? Which is where she runs to. From the house to the beach.
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AP Tone
That's nice.
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Pat McAfee
Bluetooth.
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Dan Orlovsky
Because we're dumb. We share, like, a apple icloud. Thingamajiggy. So she just showed up and her earbuds picked up my phone. So you're talking. I can't hear you. And that's when you saw me go like this. I was like, yo, you gotta turn these off, because I can't hear it.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, so now we're ruining her workout because you guys only have one apple. Okay, all right, okay, all right, all right, all right. Just know it's very, very easy to get more. We thought you were potentially miming there. We thought you were doing the mime thing because of everything that just took place with Shador there. That. That's what we thought. Maybe you're doing that. That is not. That would have been. Yeah, yeah, that would have been. You want an Emmy already? That might have in itself might have gave you an Emmy there. But let's talk about you dancing on the Mac Jones victory parade, okay? You put the Dan wagon on Mack going to the Shanahan offense, and he would look just like Brock Purdy looks right now, is your exact words. And we all laughed in your face as we had seen Mac Jones up there at New England with Matt Patricia, defense coordinator, as his offense coordinator, and Joe Judge, a special teams coordinator, as his quarterback coach. We've seen the antics of him kicking people into balls in the way he operated. And we all thought to ourselves, this guy stinks in his face, I think. Not to us, obviously. We never do that. But I think there is something about the way he looks that some people go, wow. Oh, I won't punch him in the face right there. Some people. So some people view that that way. I don't think it's fair, but I think Mac Jones has probably heard that before. So it's all natural to bury Mack whenever he ended bad in New England. I think for a lot of people. Then he goes down to Jacksonville. Not a lot of fanfare, not a lot of conversation goes over Shanahan. He gets this opportunity. He has been fantastic. Do we think that rookie Mack Jones would have been able to handle a Shanahan like offense, like if he was the number three overall pick? Do we think Mac Jones is being talked about as one of the greatest quarterbacks in the NFL right now, or do you think he needed everything he went through and got here at the perfect time for this type of situation? Dano, on your victory lap?
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AP Tone
Yeah.
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Dan Orlovsky
I truly believe if he went to San Francisco at three that year, he would be one of the top, you know, 10 quarterbacks in the NFL. I had felt that I would say this though. I think on the field he would have been able to handle Shanahan's offense. I do think the maturity has absolutely kind of grown. You know, I just was watching you guys play his post game conference comments and we've seen Mack have some bad body language and, and probably comport himself in ways that he wasn't great when he was younger. So I think that and kind of like the maturity throughout the league or his years has developed. I'll say this off the game last night, that's the best game I've ever seen him play in the NFL. I was blown away how good he was. Like, you're throwing all these clips, dude. The timing of these throws is nuts. And the crazy thing is they're not like 6 yard completions. They're all like 16, 18, 24 yard completions that are big time throws and they're coming right out of his hands. But so many times the ball left his hands before the receivers were like dropping their hips and getting into their cuts. And so it was a, it was a phenomenal game. It's the best game I've ever seen Mac play. And what a freaking win. Like what a freaking win by the 49ers, man.
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Pat McAfee
Here's a Hembo stat for you to go along with the point you just made right there. San Francisco's past game accounted for 82% of its yardage last night. They had been 3 and 13 under Shanahan when that number was 80 plus. And then Jones to Bourne this season. Second time around for those two. Right, Con man.
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Boston Conner
Yeah, that was his number one when he was in New England. Big time.
- [25:07]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so he understands his timing. Even though DeMarcus Robinson got into the game last night, started making some plays. X Ram obviously getting a big time win. Jones the Bourne this season. 17 of 20, 85% of his complete completion rate. 212 pass yards and 10.6 yards per attempt. So they're down the field to your point. 12 first downs and he has a 95.5 QBR that is out of a hundred scales. So whenever you talk about Taborin obviously has some familiarity with but everybody else he doesn't. I mean, DeMarcus Robinson, I forgot he was on the Niners until Kirk Herbish. He brought his name up yesterday. I actually wrote it down. I'm like, oh yeah, demarcus Robinson's on that team. Sprinkled a little bit on anytime TD on demarcus Robinson. He was out of bounds. Mack needs to throw that ball better. Okay. Mac needs to throw that ball. We're talking about him being great. Yeah, well, my anytime touchdown does not take that is with DeMarcus. But on that note, he doesn't know these guys that much and he's not getting a lot of one reps out there. Right. Isn't that something else to be added into all of this? Dano?
- [26:03]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I think he's got more reps than most backups obviously because he's had to play for almost a month now. Right. And so I think that's a part of this. I do believe that last night is this kind of walking example of some of the things we often lose sight of when it comes to quarterback play. Obviously coaching's a massive part of quarterback performance. Like we can, we can definitively say quarterbacks can only play as good as their play caller. Like that, that's, that's. They go hand in hand. We saw that last night. And then watching that game, I felt like re watching it this morning. It felt like I was re watching the Dak vs Green Bay game because like during it I'm like, how is the Rams defensive line not getting home? How are they not getting to Mack and sacking him more? And dude, there are so many throws that he cuts the ball like they actually win at the defensive line. And he cuts it loose right before he gets hit. Right before he gets hit. Right. And that was exactly what Dak did against Micah and that green bang defensive line. And so I think that is another example of like, dude, how important playing on time is right now at that position. It minimizes so many things. And then I would shout out their offensive line like again, I'm just talking about how, how like how Fast or how much playing on time helped him. Their offense that throws ridiculous, dude. That off their offensive line was very impressive last night because that Rams defensive front is big time. But, man, it's the example of this quarterback development, quarterback performance. Who would you rather have? Where you go matters. Like, it's. It's another example of that that we have in the NFL of like, dude, it all. It all matters on the player or for the player, how well he can perform.
- [27:49]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to you and congrats to Mac. And we've. I've asked. I asked this question like three, four weeks ago. Like, Kyle Shanahan's first. First love in this entire thing was, Mac, if your first love shows up and cooking great, takes care of. I mean, just everything that you could potentially want, it just walks into your life. It's hard, I assume, for him not to be like, I knew it, I knew it. You know, and then all of a sudden you start thinking, like, you start thinking, well, what all is possible, you know, and that's going to be a natural conversation that's going to happen with media pundits. I appreciate Mac putting that to sleep, saying, hey, this is Brock Purdy's team. He's getting 200 million, not me. But that is certainly going to be a growing combo if Matt continues the ball like this, at least for trade bait discussions or maybe in the off season next year. So I love that. And good for you getting a chance to dance on a right take for once. You know, that very rarely happens for me. We're pumped. Very rare. Take your flag, Daniel. Come on, Dano. Here we go. Here we go. Wow.
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Boston Conner
Good whistle.
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AJ Hawk
Good whistle.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I got Peter. Peter's about to run into. AJ Has a question for you, brother.
- [29:09]
AJ Hawk
Dano, what are your. What's your opinion on McVeigh going for it? Fourth and one infield goal range. Going for the win. Also, like, what is your opinion on the play call? In my opinion, yeah, people want to kill the play call. If it works, it works. If you got to run some trickery and it doesn't work, people are going to say, hey, why don't you just run up the middle? You can get one yard. What's your thoughts on this?
- [29:27]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, bad play call. And I love Sean McVeigh, and I don't need to tell everybody he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. He's one of the most creative coaches in the NFL. Absolutely love going for it. The quarterback. I don't know how you lose that game playing quarterback. The way Stafford did. Let me talk about this. This stop in overtime, okay? I think the Rams were in like third or fourth in, I believe, two or less like six times they ran that play right there. Four out of this, four out of the six times or four out of the five times they ran the same play. AJ on third and one and fourth to one, four or five times previous of that game, the same exact play, same exact formation. So, like in that situation, five times throughout that game, they got into that. That like three, three man surface. Four man surface, where they had the receiver just off the hip of the tight end and then another receiver outside and they ran duo. They did it all throughout the game. Now they convert, I think, on all of them. But the pass to Devonte is the one. I'm not counting. They on third and one, they threw a ball to devonte. He doesn't see it the same way. So here's my point. They had this same situation, like short yardage, I think, five times in the game. They ran that same play out of the same formation all times. But one I like. And you see San Francisco, that safety, and I don't want to pronounce his name wrong, but I think it's 36 cycle or Siegel or something. Dude. Every single time he's downhill on it. Every single time he's downhill. And it's like, dude, I was shocked. I'm shocked that Sean McVay, one of the most creative and great coaches in the NFL. I'm not shocked that he went for it. I'm shocked that he went to the same play that he had gone to so much in that game. That's the thing that I think he's going to sit back and be like, man, I can't believe I did that in that moment. Because usually he's a step ahead of the defense. And you can tell the defense knew what the play was going to be more than likely because of what had happened in that game.
- [31:22]
Pat McAfee
Got to have it. That's literally the most important play. Got to have it. So he said, I blew that game. That's 100% on me. He took accountability. We assume he will go back to the. What was the name of that movie? Beautiful Mind. A beautiful Mind. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful Mind. When he said that, when he's got that window, just drawing up a bunch of. I assume Sean McVeigh is going to do that, because what you're saying is obviously echoed by a lot of people that know play calling and ball and everything, but he knows that, too. That was his Answer basically was like I let the team. I appreciate though and Salah, good to see him back, bro. We haven't seen that in a long time. Right that right there. And Lynch. Hey boys, we got nobody on our team. It is obviously a good moment for them. But I appreciate Sean McVay for the good of ball. Going for that for the good of ball. You know, hey, we just had a tie. We just had a tie. Packers, Cowboys, when everybody said we hated it, right. Maybe that's the answer. Team can't go for tie if it's after. Like I like that. Maybe that maybe that's the answer. Answer that we need. And maybe Sean McVeigh is like, if nobody wants to make a rule change, I'll start it and then maybe on a head coach group text they'll continue that. So I appreciate him doing that for the good of ball. But we were all surprised that we're not dependent on this one here. Whenever the biggest, most important play of all time. Let's get this guy the ball.
- [32:41]
Dan Orlovsky
Maybe I would also say, Pat, like their short yardage, like red zone bootleg game or play action pass game is as good as anybody's in the NFL. So like if there was ever a time Stafford was ridiculous last night, I mean some of the throws he makes are just absolutely out of their mind. Out of his mind. And so I think if you're the Rams, you got to sit back and sitting at three and two and you got to be going, dang, dude, like we're three and two and really. Because I, I guess I would say it's like sloppy football. They wasted this game. A division game. Their quarterback, I don't think you can play much better and throw it much better than Stafford did. He probably had like three misses that are misses. But you know, you lose to the Eagles in many ways because of a sloppy second half and sloppy field goal operation. Then last night you lose because of a, a fumble on a toss. You get the same freaking kick block at the same position. The, the blocked extra point last night is off the same block that the Eagles did. It comes in the same location, man. So like the same block. You missed the extra point. The fumble on the goal line, dude.
- [33:50]
Pat McAfee
That'S just the same four time place the same. Yeah, it's like the same. It's all like the same. Yeah. You're saying it's abnormal to think.
- [33:58]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah. And it's like this is one of the most well run organizations in football. Like I would say one of the most adult run, you know, like Buttoned up organization is in football. And I think they got to sit back at three and two. Like we've lost two games really, because of like our own, our own destruction. Our own destruction.
- [34:17]
Pat McAfee
What a play right here, dude. This is unbelievable though. I mean, let's, you know the Rams saying they should have won, obviously. Two block kicks against the Eagles, blocked extra point last night. This type of play right here is just devastating to a team, to a Rams team. We, I've, I experienced this a couple times with the Colts. It didn't get punched out by the other team. They decided to punch it out themselves two times. Jonathan Taylor last year against Broncos and AD against the Rams. Devastating. Just because it's so hard to get there. So hard in the NFL to get there. It is so hard to get like the Patriots a couple weeks back against the Steelers. We had a pick in the end zone. We had a fumble in the end zone. It's like that is devastating to your team for how hard it and how long it takes to get to there to potentially score a touchdown, to have it just boom. It's like you just held on the ball for a long time and nothing. It's, that's, that's kicking the dick. Rams figured out. Hey, Rams good for the Niners. Speaking of figuring things out out there in Baltimore, they're going to have to figure out what's going on with Lamar. Talk stable has a question for you. I believe it is Ty Schmidt.
- [35:20]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Dan, Obviously it's a little early in the season to talk about must wins and stuff like that, but at this point, you know, through almost the quarter mark, I think you kind of know who you are and you start to see the playoff picture. Now we're hearing Lamar didn't practice again today. There's a chance that, you know, or it's probably a likelihood that he's not going to play Sunday. Are we in like must win territory for the Ravens here? I mean, if they lose another one and slipped to 1 and 4 and Lamar is more banged up than we thought, like, what should we be thinking about the Ravens this weekend?
- [35:51]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, no, I, I, this is a must win for Baltimore for me. So they play Houston this weekend and this is my thought on it. You play Houston this weekend and if you find a way to win this game and I think they can beat Houston without Lamar, I'll get into like the how then they play the Rams next weekend. Right. And then the buy. So if you can find a way to win this weekend and Lamar is somewhat trending towards being better next week, but probably not where you want them. Then you can realistically sit there and say, okay, we got the win, we're at 2 and 3. I, we would love for Lamar to play, but we really want two weeks of more health and break on that hammy. Let's try to win another without him. Because at worst case, if you win this week, you get to 2 and 4 because of the way that things are shaking up in their division and I think is the AFC as a whole. I still don't think at 2 and 4 they're out of it, especially if they're able to take that three week break with Lamar, get him healthy. Obviously they've got problems on their football team as far as the execution and I think some philosophical things, but I think this is a must win. Now how do they do it versus Houston? No, no, I got no problems with Chuck. No problems, you know, like. Well, yeah. So I would say this. There's no team in the NFL that has given the ball to their running backs less on first and second down than the Baltimore Ravens there. So on first and second down, the running back that's got the least amount of carries in the NFL is Derrick Henry at that for me, doesn't make it Dan.
- [37:28]
AJ Hawk
Why is that happening? Why aren't they giving the ball first and second down?
- [37:31]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, A.J. i don't know. Like, I, I don't know. And Todd Monkin's a phenomenal. I mean they have a historically great offense last year, so is it because they think the defense is struggling and so like you're trying to just, you know, score points as much as possible. First down's the easiest down in the NFL to throw the ball. So are they being aggressive throwing the ball on early downs? So I, I believe in that philosophy, but like having the least amount of carries on first and second down. I'm not saying we have to have the most, but we have Derrick Henry. I think last week against the Chiefs in the, I think he had five carries on first and second down. So that's the philosophy thing. So like how do they beat Houston? I think they got a, obviously 25 plus carries for Derrick Henry. Got a big deal. Got to be a big deal. They got to be really good with the play action even if Lamar is not in there. And so I think they can beat Houston, but I do believe it's a must win. But they got it. They got to like, remember who they are. Like remember who you are offensively.
- [38:26]
Pat McAfee
A lot of people out, bro. Put this up Jameson Henley, I believe he reports for the Ravens, put up that there's seven guys out and they're all names that we know. You know, these are all, these are all, these are all angry man. Yes. So is all of them. I mean, all of those are huge names, let alone the D tackle Matabike who just is out for the season. I mean, it is, it's not good over there. But I believe in the Ravens culture after watching them on Hard Knocks, but maybe their philosophies need to change. And also maybe they're not giving him the ball because he fumbled fourth quarter two games in a row. A lot of people on the Internet are saying maybe he's going to getting punished for that. It's like, well, what got you to the fourth quarter? This guy rushed for 185 yards. Yeah, maybe we, maybe we do that again. Speaking of teams that win games and not everybody's happy, Tony has a question about some John's Don Air in the city of brotherly love.
- [39:14]
AP Tone
Yeah, I do, Dano. There's two 4 and oh teams in the NFL, and one of them is the Philadelphia Eagles, and they are 29th in the league in yards per rush and 31st in the league in yards passing per game. And I think 138 yards a game, but they're still 4 0. But there's, you know, there's the stuff with A.J. brown. What do you. And, you know, they got to get Saquon go. What do you think about the Philadelphia Eagles offense so far this season? What's different than last year?
- [39:38]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, not the Pennsylvania team I thought you were going to ask me about. So I'm a little bit disappointed not getting in a fight over it, but.
- [39:44]
AP Tone
No, we don't need it. We don't need you. You came out and you said, hey, they, they went six offensive linemen. They had Darnell Washington doing it. Right. We're, we're good, Dan. We're all, we're on good terms.
- [39:51]
Dan Orlovsky
All right, hold on, Dan.
- [39:53]
Pat McAfee
Hold on, Dan. Hold on, Dan. Hold on. I, I don't want to get into the whole victory lap thing. You. Dan's taking a big time victory lap about Mac Jones, isn't he?
- [40:01]
Gumpy
Absolutely in the.
- [40:02]
Pat McAfee
Out there, Gus. He's, he's, he's just out there doing his thing. Look at. He just bought the shirt from a tent outside of the stadium, by the way, Gus. Yeah, look at that camera gum. It was awesome. We were eating at Rama Jam and we. With Josh Chapman and then there's tents outside in between Rama Jama and the stadium, and Gumpy just goes out there, and all of a sudden he comes back like it's a merch store. There's a Daytona 500 Dale Earnhardt merch shop outside of Rama Jam near the stadium. It is beautiful. He's taking a victory lap with that thing, isn't he? With the old Mac Jones.
- [40:34]
Gumpy
Yeah, I was wondering about his Justin Fields MVP take.
- [40:39]
Pat McAfee
Or what about your Steelers going 06? You want to talk about the other Pittsburgh team? You called them going 0 and 6. That just got brought up a couple days ago. So the Mac Jones thing, pretty good, because all of Pittsburgh was taking all of the steel that we've created for the entire world and just blasting you right in the shin and balls with that 06 thing. Now, you don't have to respond. Okay. You're saying it was before they hit.
- [41:02]
Dan Orlovsky
I'm respond.
- [41:05]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [41:05]
Dan Orlovsky
Why can't I. Why can't I respond? I said that comment because it's all.
- [41:11]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, damn.
- [41:11]
Pat McAfee
Everything you're saying.
- [41:13]
AP Tone
You did say it before Aaron was on the team. But don't pretend after Aaron was signed that you were like, oh, this is it.
- [41:18]
Dan Orlovsky
You said, I literally. I literally did a pregame preseason show that July 26 and picked the seven AFC playoff teams and picked the Steelers in the playoffs.
- [41:30]
Pat McAfee
You smell that?
- [41:30]
AP Tone
You only did that in case.
- [41:32]
Pat McAfee
I smell it.
- [41:32]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah, I smell it.
- [41:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [41:34]
Boston Conner
Reach right now.
- [41:36]
Pat McAfee
I'm in Alabama. I don't know if you guys can smell. What state are you in, Dan? What state's that?
- [41:41]
Dan Orlovsky
I'm in Connecticut, and I was right on the Steelers.
- [41:45]
Pat McAfee
Isn't that crazy that from Connecticut to Indiana with the boys in the Thunderdome, you guys could smell, right? Oh, yeah. And I'm down here in Alabama. All of it, Just absolutely everything. Absolute sh.
- [41:58]
Dan Orlovsky
Manure.
- [41:59]
Pat McAfee
Manure coming through the TV down here. Brand new tunnel. Dan, they just opened this thing two weeks ago, and there's radiating through the whole thing.
- [42:08]
Dan Orlovsky
Steelers fans have been killing me. Jersey Jerry DMed me last night and goes, are you going to own up to your 0 and 6 Steeler or your Steelers take? I said, which one?
- [42:17]
Pat McAfee
Good question. Jersey question.
- [42:21]
Dan Orlovsky
And he said, 06. And I go, I said that when Aaron wasn't on the team, once he got on the team, I picked him to make the playoffs. He goes, I did not know that. My bad.
- [42:29]
Pat McAfee
No, Jersey, don't back off, okay? I hope he gets a microphone and he doesn't back off. Let's go. Sorry, Tone. Go ahead, Tone.
- [42:38]
AJ Hawk
I'm sorry.
- [42:39]
Pat McAfee
Tone, it's Phil. Let's talk about the other side of the state. Obviously Pennsylvania's football state need to be Oregon, but Pennsylvania is football state.
- [42:45]
AP Tone
I was gonna, I was gonna be Rabbit Dan real quick and say, yeah, they've been out game by 200 yards and two of their wins or whatever. And you know, the offensive line has looked great and the run defense hasn't looked great, but you know, they're still three and one. So that's okay, Dan. And we're just gonna move on to the Eagles question.
- [42:58]
Pat McAfee
Okay?
- [42:58]
Dan Orlovsky
All right.
- [42:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [43:01]
Dan Orlovsky
So this is my thoughts on on Philadelphia. I think right now running the football is a struggle for them. In between the tackles, I think they miss Makai Becton. If their offense doesn't improve, it will get them beat. No team in the NFL has more negative runs than the Philadelphia Eagles. Coming off of a historic run season. No team has more negative runs than Eagles. They leave the NFL and most of it is in between the tackles. I think like last year, Hembo sent me numbers in between the tackles. I think Saquon average like five and a half yards per carry. This year's like one and a half yards per carry. So then the connective part of that is, well, the pass game. I would tell you this. I think AJ Brown is being asked to do, I would call them like high school routes type of stuff. He basically just is running in straight lines.
- [43:50]
Pat McAfee
Oh no.
- [43:51]
Dan Orlovsky
And there's a beauty to that. No, there's a beauty to that. Like ayyjayy's such a physically dominant player. It's like, hey, run a go route, run a stop route. I just think that they can ask him to run more routes than that.
- [44:02]
Pat McAfee
He.
- [44:02]
Dan Orlovsky
And so I think his route tree is a little minimized. And then I'd say this. I think Jalen's become a very risk averse quarterback. And so, you know, three years ago when AJ was like one on one, I think Jalen would give him a lot of opportunities to catch the ball. And I don't think that Jalen is doing that right now down the field. I think, you know, when AJ's down the field one on one, Jalen's a, you know, very much so protecting that throw and not putting the ball even remotely close into harm's way. So I do think it can improve, but it's going to have to get better. It'll get them beat.
- [44:39]
AJ Hawk
Dano Carson Wentz, quick pivot here. Carson Wentz, playing in London, has about half the roster out in feels like, they are hurt. What do you think they can do? Can they find a way to get a win over this Browns team dude, that their.
- [44:51]
Dan Orlovsky
Their defense in Minnesota is going to have? I think that, like, this game feels like 13:10. Minnesota's offensive line, specifically the left guard and center, are really struggling big time, and you're going against one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. And so this is a huge challenge for Minnesota offensively to try to, I think, generate some positive yardage, try to get points on the board, any means necessary. You do not want to give the football away because you want, like, you want to ride your defense in this game. And so, you know, what quarterback. What offense values the ball the most? I think this is just a, like, a low scoring, ugly football game because Minnesota's offensive line is so beat up and obviously playing against that defense in Minnesota with the rookie quarterback in Cleveland and an offense that's really diverse, devoid of talent. So I think whatever.
- [45:40]
Pat McAfee
Judy's on. Yeah, you need to watch your mouth then. Jerry Judy's our favorite football player. Okay.
- [45:47]
Dan Orlovsky
Jerry Judy's a good player.
- [45:48]
Boston Conner
He's a great player.
- [45:49]
Pat McAfee
The total. You go ahead.
- [45:52]
AP Tone
No, say the total for this game is 35 and a half, by the way, which I believe is the lowest of the season.
- [45:56]
AJ Hawk
I'm taking over.
- [45:57]
Pat McAfee
Okay, me too. On that note, I would like to. Obviously, I wanted to get into your thoughts on Dylan Gabriel and how he. He's going to do and what your expectations are for him, but I also would like to follow up with. You think the Carson Wentz experience against his Cleveland Browns defense isn't gonna. Isn't gonna generate at least 14 points.
- [46:15]
Ty Schmidt
For the Browns for somebody.
- [46:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [46:21]
Dan Orlovsky
I'm. I'm a little, you know, like, again, I'm a little bit concerned against this defense. You know, Carson does like to hold the football a little bit and be a playmaker.
- [46:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, be a playmaker. Yeah, I agree. Yep. Is this the one where he throws? Yep.
- [46:36]
Ty Schmidt
Great play.
- [46:38]
Pat McAfee
So this. We are fans of this. We. We think it's electrifying for football. We've actually pitched that. He should be this one. Yeah, that ball's out. So I've pitched the last week. Carson Wentz needs to be a starter on a football team that is debuting in a new country.
- [46:57]
Dan Orlovsky
Interception. Not his fault, guys.
- [46:59]
Pat McAfee
Like, of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. It's just a part of the whole thing.
- [47:02]
AP Tone
It's part of the experience.
- [47:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there's good places there, too. Boom. Look at that. That's unbelievable. There's the first play. You didn't comment on it because you didn't know what we were doing. Run. No, look sidearm to Justin Jefferson. Great play.
- [47:18]
AJ Hawk
The best.
- [47:19]
Pat McAfee
You know, so he needs to be this. He needs to be a starter on a team that is playing in a new country. Whoever goes to Australia should be required to have Carson Wentz as one of the team starters because it's the most electrifying style of football. Every play could be a touchdown. Yes, Bingo. Yes, exactly. That is. That is 100% right. So like this Cleveland Browns defense, I think not only like anytime touchdown, but maybe touchdowns from this Cleveland Browns defense over there. But also on that note, Carson might throw four touch. He might go for 400 yards against this Browns defense because it just makes no sense and that's a part of the experience. Let's go with Dylan Gabriel though. Obviously a lot has been talked about with him being 5' 11, third round draft pick. Who knows how he's been able to actually handle and compartmentalize all the drama with the fifth round draft pick, Shador Sanders. That's been there, but who cares about any of that whenever he gets on the field? What should be realistic expectations of this Dylan Gabriel? I know B. Flo's defense is good. Everybody's defense is good except for like maybe one or two teams. How should we view him as a rookie starter here and what are your expectations?
- [48:20]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I think my expectations are low and realistic because of one, that defense he's going against is fantastic. And so if he's not good on early downs, getting the ball out of his hands like right now and they're not efficient yards after the catch he's going to get and this offense will get themselves into trouble. We all know that because of this blitz package. I think the number one thing is how much they move him and how much they go play action. That's really been the problem with this offense is it's the fundamental starting point, is the play action part of it. That's Stefanski's offense. It just hasn't been good enough this year. And so how well he operates that, and that was probably the thing that was surprising in the preseason was how good he did in that because he didn't do a lot of it in college, they're going to have to move him because to help try to just get him away from some of those rushers. I think the screen game's huge for them. I think the completion game just get the ball out of his hands early and try to get some yards after the catch is going to be a really big deal. I don't want to be disrespectful, but this isn't the most talented offensive roster in the NFL. We know that.
- [49:23]
Pat McAfee
So no, Judy's on.
- [49:26]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah remember Quinton Johnson player.
- [49:29]
Dan Orlovsky
But like I think there are two other because Tillman's hurt. The two other receivers I think are young kids and Jamari Thrash and Isaiah Bond. So like you got young, young players now fan and their young tight end has been awesome with him and Njoko are good players together and so but you're not going out there with like a ton of firepower and so I think it's just realistic that I think there'll be good moments but I would expect some, some certain struggles going against that defense.
- [49:54]
Pat McAfee
9:30Am we can't wait to watch that on NFL Network. We hope Olson is on the call again. He was fantastic to wake up with. And the Vikings two game international run could be two Ls even though they made this decision allegedly because they didn't want to play in Pittsburgh or in Cleveland. Let's just go and do the international games back to back. Could come back 02 still believe in Koc. Okay, let's pivot away from that. Let's talk about the biggest news of the day. Life of a Showgirl 12 songs I like. Cancelled is my favorite if I had to get into it. Actually romantic. Also awesome. And I think Wood is a about Travis Kelsey's so pretty graphic. I'm not 100% sure if there's full descriptors in it. Just from my gathering my intel. My wife tried to brief me on the way out this morning on what she stayed up last night and listened to. I would like to let people know that we are massive Taylor Swift fans. And also the way Taylor Swift was kind of treated by the music industry. I think the way she views it is very similar to how I think the sports media world has viewed us. So I take a lot of the things she says in her messaging in her diary and journalism as like a like who's afraid of little old me you should be is like a gangster ass song. Especially if you've been in a position where you've walked into a suit's office and told them to go themselves. So I am a massive fan of Taylor Swift. Congrats to her on that note. Kansas City Chiefs might be all the.
- [51:15]
Dan Orlovsky
Way to the movie tonight. My daughter, my daughter was up at 6 o' clock in the morning playing the album. I think she's like there's a movie that documents the tour or something I want to say or the album make. She's going tonight.
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Pat McAfee
Of course, she's playing 60 chess. You know, there's 40. She is always doing it. On that note, Andy Reid might be with the Kansas City Chiefs. They might be all the way back. Connor has the last question for you here, Dano.
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Boston Conner
Yeah, Dano, first of all, I really do want to give you gruff, but you were right about Mac Jones, so hats off to you, Bill Belichick. Yikes. What do you think about the Chiefs right now, Dano? It's feels as though they're kind of hitting their stride a little bit here. Rasheed Rice comes back in three or. Yeah, in three weeks, whatever. Week seven, and they're two and two, so it looks like they're going to be, you know, around 500, kind of get Rashid back. You saw how much it mattered getting worthy back last week. Is there a chance here that, you know, everyone was burying the Chiefs the first two weeks and then they're about to just rip off 15 games in a row? Especially with Taylor Swift's new showgirl bumping through Arrowhead on Sundays.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [52:18]
Dan Orlovsky
If they stylistically and scheme wise, do what they did this past week. Yes. So if you were to ask me what teams, like, I loved watching the most this past week offensively, when it comes to doing things differently. It was Kansas City. It was Pittsburgh. You talked about Pittsburgh and the six offensive linemen and, you know, the Washington on there, I think that was like 16 snaps of it. I have been begging for Kansas City to just play a little bit of throwback football to help them, you know, put the quarterback under center, go a little bit more play action. I think 17 times this past weekend. They put Patrick underneath the center a couple times. Also with six offensive linemen, I just think it calms them down a little bit and allows them to have an efficient run game. They're not going to be this crazy, explosive run team right now. And so, you know, I think that, like, for me, that was a big deal. And I know it's not a ridiculous amount of snaps, but that alone, it gave them efficiency in the. In the run game. It got Patrick on the move a little bit off his spot. It gave them a couple easy completions. It allowed them to protect him a little bit, and then they hit a couple of those shots downfield. So, like, if that's what they're gonna be offensively. And again, this is. Does there. It's not like there's Remaking of identity. I just am of the belief and I know people disagree with me. I know there's coaches who think I want to get them fired because of me saying this. I just don't think you can live in the gun world 90% of the time right now. And I think the Chiefs kind of morphing a little bit last week doing that. I'm very. That was my favorite game plan of the Chiefs in like the past two seasons, just because of the way it looked.
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Pat McAfee
Who were you trying to get fired there just in your back of your mind, was it that you were saying should not have.
- [54:00]
Dan Orlovsky
I'm not like, I, I, I have such great respect for these coaches.
- [54:04]
Pat McAfee
I'm not trying to get all of them.
- [54:05]
AJ Hawk
Every one of them.
- [54:06]
Pat McAfee
Okay. All of them. Okay. Yeah. All right. Never mind. Dan. Have an incredible weekend. We appreciate the hell out of you. Crushed it this week on television. We love watching. Make sure you get your hydration in. Yeah, okay. Make. We appreciate it too.
- [54:17]
AJ Hawk
I told us that.
- [54:18]
Dan Orlovsky
All right, boys.
- [54:19]
Ty Schmidt
Carbs.
- [54:19]
Pat McAfee
You guys, you guys.
- [54:21]
Dan Orlovsky
Thank you.
- [54:21]
AP Tone
Carbs and water.
- [54:22]
Ty Schmidt
Car Bob too.
- [54:22]
Pat McAfee
No concussions.
- [54:23]
Dan Orlovsky
No, no, no carbs. No carbs.
- [54:25]
AP Tone
Well, you're gonna get a concussion in.
- [54:26]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [54:26]
Pat McAfee
Watch that head of yours. We need that brain to give out a lot of takes. And some of them. Mack Jones would be Brock Purdy. We can celebrate. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlofsky. Before the first hour ends, we have to hit it. Shout out to Dan Orlofsky. Ty Schmidt. Huge day in baseball. Tigers get a win over the Guardians. They go. Cubs get a win over Slam Diego. And the Yankees beat the Red Sox. And none of us saw it. Ty, what happened last night. Congrats to your Yankees.
- [54:53]
Ty Schmidt
Thank you very much. Put up her shut up game. Let's get right to it. In the bottom of the fourth, Ahmed Rosario with an RBI single off Conley early to score Cody Bellinger for the first run of the game. And this was, this was kind of the story here. The fourth inning, the Yankees got all their runs. Anthony Volpe hit little seeing eye single the other way. They scored John Carlos Stanton. Plate. Another one. And you know, the Red Sox kind of fell apart a little bit. Austin Wells chops one to first base. Nathaniel Low, he can't hang on to it. It scored an error and the Yankees score two more runs to go to four nothing. And then let's move ahead to the top of the eighth. They're up for nothing. Cam Schlitler induces a pop up and with Shades of Jeters Dive 2004, Ryan McMahon goes over the railing into the Red Sox dugout. This will be a play Yankees fans circle and re watch for years and years to come. Just unbelievable. Absolutely sells out. And I mean, if he doesn't get caught there, he's probably breaking his back. Was pretty. They caught him. It was very nice that they caught him. We're gonna need that guy. You can see, you know, very reminiscent of Jeter. This wasn't in the playoffs. This is just a regular season game against the Red Sox. Still selling out, going into the crowd, getting cut up. That was great. And then finally in the top of the ninth, the Yankees bring in the guy we talked about yesterday, the, the Pittsburgh boy, David Bednar. And he channels his inner Troy Palamalu shuts the door. Yankees win four. Nothing but the big story here, Pat, is Cam Schlitler, the kid who pitched for the Yankees. He's a rookie. He's. He's made like nine starts this year. He's from Walpole, Massachusetts. Grew up a Red Sox fan and he had arguably one of the best outings in the history of the postseason. Yeah, crazy. Eight innings pitched, 12 strikeouts, no walks. He goes right to the closer and he's throwing over 100 all night. And it was pretty personal because people were talking shit to his mom on Twitter all day.
- [56:54]
Pat McAfee
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- [58:07]
Dan Orlovsky
He dropped it at the one yard line.
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- [58:39]
AJ Hawk
Here we go. Hour two of the Pat McAfee Show. I'm A.J.
- [58:42]
Pat McAfee
Hawk sitting in for Pat here at his desk in Indianapolis. He's down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
- [58:47]
AJ Hawk
Huge matchup tomorrow, Bambi. Alabama football is the name of the game, obviously. Last night, Pat. The 49ers get a big win in overtime. 26, 23. Yankees move on. Baseball is happening. Pat, what's going on? How you doing?
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Pat McAfee
Good. You take your ears out there? Did you take your ears out?
- [59:08]
AJ Hawk
That little situation getting these guys back in as we came back. You're right. You notice.
- [59:12]
Pat McAfee
Well, I appreciate your hand on that good adversity there. I never take them out because my ears are so weird. It normally causes a problem, though, because with these in, you can't hear anything that the humans are saying. For instance, there's a bathroom right here. This is maybe the greatest setup that I've had to go to the bathroom. Coming back in. There's some questions coming from down the hall. Mostly like, hey, when are we allowed to fucking walk through here? You know, a lot of that stuff. So I just keep the ears in, you know, ha ha ha. Do a lot of that. Ha ha ha. Do that at game day too. A lot of ha ha. Which I actually can't hear them but I always try to do like, hey, super positive stuff. Good to see you. Good to see you. So you even taking that out during a three minute break I thought was a nice, confident, aggressive decision. And I appreciate you traveling to Indianapolis on this glorious feel good Friday. Obviously I wish I was there with you and the boys. The toxic table. I, Boston Conor and that Ty Schmidt con man. We heard Ty rattle off what happened in the fourth inning and then obviously Bednar coming in with a renegade. And Schlitter. Is that his name? He said Schlitler. Schlitler. Ok. Well, consider me Schlit City native.
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AP Tone
I love.
- [60:12]
Pat McAfee
I love this dude. I also appreciate the fact he's from Boston and he wasn't scared to say afterwards like, yeah, it was Boston's fault. Basically this whole thing happened. It got personal for me after some hometown chirping. Okay, my mom's getting attacked. I'm not going to get into it. But there's a line. I think they crossed it quite a bit. I'm a competitor and I'm go out there and make sure I shut them down. You know, Boston's fans, that's just how it is. We're aggressive back home and we're going to try to get under people's skin. They just happen to pick the wrong guy to do it to in the wrong team to do it to. Then there's a video of him walking off in between innings and he actually, I believe Mouse. Yep. It looked like front Boston or. Nope, he says Boston right there. That is his hometown. Connor, you obviously Boston sports fan. It is a gift and a curse. You know, you can wait to people up with how good of a talker you are. Feels like that potentially happened to Schlit city here, pal.
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Boston Conner
Yeah, Schlitler, look, I mean, I. I'm. I am happy for him. The fourth inning was a great inning. It was the only inning I watched. But I told Ty before this started, as someone who is a Sox fan, of course I want Boston to win, but I know personally it won't bring me as much happiness as it brings Ty, so I'm not as bummed out. However, Schlitler bitching and moaning. I. I get it. Okay, hold on.
- [61:33]
Pat McAfee
I. I get.
- [61:34]
Nick Saban
All right.
- [61:34]
Boston Conner
I love that he found motivation in this and Boston and all that stuff. I love it. This kid is a little bit of a wuss. I. I don't know.
- [61:44]
AJ Hawk
I don't know.
- [61:44]
Boston Conner
I don't know where he's. I don't know where he's from in Mass.
- [61:47]
Ty Schmidt
Need to wall.
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AJ Hawk
We're talking about his mom.
- [61:49]
Boston Conner
Need to know what side of Walpole.
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AP Tone
He's a Rory McElroy fan, too.
- [61:52]
Boston Conner
Well, okay, see, that's. That's just standard stuff.
- [61:55]
Pat McAfee
I'm not a starter. You're starting to talk shit on him right now. It's exactly what I think he was talking about. He's like, you know, obviously there is a chance that they could be proud of the Boston boy right now. Clinching game for the New York Yankees. One of their own is out there doing it. But we all understand from sports towns that that's just not how it's going to go. It's going to get even more personal whenever you're from there. I appreciate the fact that he said, yep. I was about sick of seeing everything that they were saying about my family. My mother and I went out there with a chip on my shoulder. I hope he's able to find that with Toronto, I believe is who they play next. Blue Jays. I hope maybe somebody in Canada goes, hey, your mom. Don't you know something? Your mom.
- [62:37]
AJ Hawk
Your mom's meat's not good.
- [62:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because he was electric to watch, Ty. I mean, this dude was. He's been good for you. Said nine starts this guy's had. I just watched the highlights. I didn't see the game either, Connor. There's football on. That's. That's going to be the decision every single time. I did see multiple TV setups for people and everything like that, but this dude's electrifying, huh, Ty? And the whole pitching crew. There's a picture of them from the locker room afterwards. And I look through it, I'm like, I did not know this was the Yankees aces. I had no idea that this was the New York Yankees aces. Are you guys going to be able to win? Is this, is this, is this group, Is this stable about to win a World Series for the Yankees? Is that how we feel after getting through the Red Sox series?
- [63:18]
Ty Schmidt
Ty a little. I mean, if he pitches like he did last night, because like that, that was what Alex Cora said, that the Red Sox manager said that after the game he was basically just like, he was perfect tonight and we had to be perfect and we weren't. So that's why we're moving on. Anytime you. I mean, it's not the same thing as Skiings who kind of right when he came up is throwing over a hundred, you know, early in the game, just striking out guys left and right side seems unhittable, but yeah, he's. I mean, he got called up on July 9 this year and the question kind of the whole season was, hey, is this guy going to be involved in the postseason at all? We're not quite sure. And then it was, you know, oh, he, he could be a good piece for the bullpen. And then finally down the stretch, he pitched unbelievable. So it was like, you know what? No, he's going to get the deciding Game 3 against his hometown team. And yeah, you could see, I mean, he was. Very few guys are. Are throwing it a hundred plus still in the eighth inning. And he was. And just any time they you know, had any kind of threat, he squashed it immediately. Just a grade A competitor. And then, yeah, he's. He's kind of the. He's the one guy who you. You didn't really know who you were going to get. So they still have Max Freed, the guy they paid all the money to, and Carlos Rodan, who they paid a bunch of money to. But at the end of the day, this is, you know, this is kind of window dressing. You obviously hope a guy can go out and do this, but the Yankees formula for winning is to hit more home runs and kind of just suffocate people early on. And they didn't really do that in this series, which I think is why a lot of Yankees fans are enthused about it because they kind of. They're just scoring runs on singles like it was, hey, your pitching has to be better than Boston's pitching during this series. And it ultimately was, but, you know, now it's, hey, the, the Blue Jays and, and the Yankees are in the same division. They've played each other a bunch of times. They know how to beat them. So it'll be very interesting to see how that goes. But, yeah, for me, I mean, I'm. I'm thinking World Series or bust.
- [65:11]
Pat McAfee
Okay. And let's go to the back room. Evan Fox. Congrats to your Tigers. Get a huge one. They said you guys were sliding. Gonna kind of maybe be the worst drop in the history of baseball alongside. And then you guys get a massive win. Congrats to you guys. That's just what. What this team does, that's what this city does. They're just gritty. So when they have one of the worst Schneides of all time, it doesn't matter. We're in the big dance and we're moving on. Feed me, big dumper, baby. Let's go, boys. I'm really pumped up about it. You want the big dump, so I think it's gonna be a little rusty and we're coming for him eating. So let's go to one half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Tone, you gave a stat there about the sportsbooks winning on a regular basis. Can you reiterate what that is as we look ahead to this weekend and inevitably make our own picks? Tone.
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AP Tone
So going into last night games where 60% or more of the public was on a certain side, the public was 10 in 24 against the spread, which was 29%. We didn't exactly get to that 60% last night. We got to 58% for the Rams. So I mean if you want to round up there now, 10 and 25. The public is against the spread on, let's call it 58% or more of the bets this season. So not good for the public so far this year. Really good for the sportsbooks.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's seemingly every God damn year, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is a living legend, a goat, an icon, a man whose field is named after him that I'm staring at right now. Seven time national champion, college game day Emmy award winner, friend of the program, still lives in town. Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Saban. Yeah.
- [67:08]
AJ Hawk
Yes.
- [67:10]
Pat McAfee
Woo. Come on.
- [67:21]
AJ Hawk
He's juiced, he's real fired up.
- [67:28]
Nick Saban
So a little different than coming down the tunnel for a game.
- [67:32]
Pat McAfee
So this is brand new, they said, they said this is brand new. This whole, all the design designs and everything like that. Is that, is that accurate sentiment here? They kind of, they just did this, I believe two weeks ago. They debuted as. You won all these.
- [67:44]
Nick Saban
So you should know, I guess news to me. But it looks good.
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AJ Hawk
Looks great.
- [67:51]
Pat McAfee
It, sir, it certainly does look good. I didn't think about the post walk down the hallway motion. This is, this is me on the PTZ right now, coach. I don't know if you can see it. I got a pretty good little touch here, you know, I'm going to try to center us around a roll tide. I've given out 400 roll tides. That is the common greeting around here, I assume. And how many do you give out daily?
- [68:12]
Nick Saban
Common greeting. And it's something that, you know, you got to get used to because when I first came here, what was probably 20 years ago, and everybody says roll tide as if they're saying hello.
- [68:27]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [68:28]
Nick Saban
So that's just how you learn to respond.
- [68:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [68:30]
Nick Saban
You know, this is what it is.
- [68:32]
Pat McAfee
I went into Rama Jama this morning. So many. Row, tie, row. Tide. Roll Tide. Two eggs, bacon, grits, biscuit. Thank you. Rotad rota coffee. Is it hot? Of course. Give me one of those. And then Josh Chapman's there with me. Obviously you know Josh Chapman, he's one of the greatest teammates I've ever had. Nose tackle for the Indianapolis Colts. I think he's a four time national champion now. Two time as a player, two time as a coach and member of the staff here at Alabama. I believe he's one of your favorite players of all time. If I had to guess, he's one of my favorite teammates of all time. He ored. He's £380 right now. Don't you worry about it. He can still move. He was eating a lot of grits. He was getting after it. The Southern hospitality felt very real here. And also plastered all over the world. All is ball, just photos of football. This entire city revolves around football. Obviously, Bear Bryant had great history, but what you were able to build here is very special. You still live here. Do you take it in? Are you getting a chance now that you're retired as the coach? Go shake hands, kiss babies and understand what you did not only like for this university, but economically to this entire. This entire city. Bro, you've done so much here. I hope you take that in and really enjoy that and celebrate that at some point.
- [69:44]
Nick Saban
Well, you know, we had a lot of people contribute to it through the years, so, you know, we were. I feel special that we were able to have championship teams and teams that people could be proud of and were excited about, and that impacted the university and the state in a very positive way. But, you know, Ms. Terry and I, we're just kind of, you know, your legacy is what you leave behind. Hopefully we leave something behind, but now we're doing something completely different. Building children's learning center. We're focused on that. So where's that? We just keep on keeping on. Yeah, it's. It's being built where the old Tuscaloosa News building was. Tore it down building a big children's learning center.
- [70:27]
Pat McAfee
You're a good man. You. You, Ms. Terry, are great people. Genuinely, I want you to know that. Getting a chance to learn about you as a human and meet you as a person. And Ms. Terry, in your entire operation, you're as real and as authentic as it gets, brother. And you're a special one that humans have and especially in the sports world. Let's talk about this game tomorrow. Vandy, pretty noted on this show. What was it was that last year we were in Oklahoma, boys?
- [70:48]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I believe so.
- [70:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Everywhere is hard to play in the sec.
- [70:53]
Nick Saban
All right.
- [70:54]
Pat McAfee
Except for Vandy. Then Vandy beats Alabama and it goes absolutely crazy. And it's not. Not. It wasn't just a, like, kind of a flash in the pan for this Vandy team. It feels like with the nil, with the transfer portal, how awesome Nashville is. And their education, I think is very good down there at Vandy as well. It's like they're becoming like a real team. And I think that's an upside of the nil and transfer portal era. We're seeing it right in front of our eyes here.
- [71:17]
Nick Saban
Yeah, I don't think there's any question about it. This is a lot better Vanderbilt team this year than what they had last year. Last year to me it was the Diego Pavia show. He ran it, they did quarterback runs. He dominated the game. He dominates the game now in a different way because to me he makes every player on his team better because he's a much better passer. He went from 57% to 70% completion. He's got better skill guys better runner. I think they're a little better on defense. So this is a real team to me. And this guy is a tremendous playmaker. He's like a point guard out there. So this is going to be a real challenging game. I think the big thing is, is you know you talk about what's people's perception and you know you have this perception of Vanderbilt being an academic school that's always struggled in the sec, especially in football. That's not the case anymore. But it's hard to get that perception out of your head. I mean they beat South Carolina at South Carolina. I mean this is a good football.
- [72:13]
Pat McAfee
Team, great football team. They also went into I think Virginia Tech in the second half and handled them last year. Obviously a lot of upsets. But you talk about the perception of what Vandy is. It's hard to sell fan bases especially in the SEC Alabama fan bases like hey, this is not Vandy of old. This is a very good Vandy football team. How do you think the people of Alabama feel about a game against Vandy being a game day game with all the, you know, do you think there is a more respect for the Vandy team or do you think that's going to take a while for people to get get to. Because the Boars I assume wanting you to tell everybody hey, this is a good Vandy team. This is a very good Vandy football team. Because optically to your point would not be great for this Alabama team but Vandy can definitely come in here and get one if they eat the way they play.
- [72:58]
Nick Saban
There's two things here if you want me to be honest.
- [73:00]
Pat McAfee
Yes, I would.
- [73:00]
Nick Saban
There's perception which the perception of the Alabama folks after being here for all these years is win every game.
- [73:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they got all these.
- [73:09]
Nick Saban
First of all, I don't make any difference if it's Vandy, Florida, Georgia, it doesn't matter. We expect to win every game. I like that standard, you know some people that bothers but I'd hate to coach at a place that didn't have a standard and didn't have an expectation you're going to Win the game. That's one, two. I do think that the Alabama folks have a much better respect for Vandy because of last year. Even though we didn't play very well, turned the ball over. And I think it's going to be really important in this game that we control the tempo of the game. We need to keep the ball on offense, run it a little better because the one thing Vandy's defense is going to be able to do is they get you in third down. Now they have really good pressure package and they're bringing people from everywhere so Ty's going to have to handle that. But if they can, if we can run the ball, if Alabama can run the ball and have more balance on offense. Because even at Georgia we didn't run the ball that great. We just converted third downs, 13 for 19, 8 for 8 to start the game. So that was the difference in the game. Whether it was third and eight, third and 11. Didn't matter. We converted third downs. I don't think you want to sort of make that your MO as a team. I think you want to have balance because you know it's going to be tough to contain Vanderbilt the whole time. So keep the ball away from the.
- [74:28]
Pat McAfee
Guy you talk about not wanting to be. Your identity as a team that just gets third downs because that's like a three point shooting team. Now granted, if you got Steph Curry, whenever push comes to shove and you don't get a couple of those, all of a sudden you're shit out of luck.
- [74:41]
Nick Saban
Shit out of luck.
- [74:42]
Pat McAfee
There it is. Or it doesn't matter. It runs faster than shit through a tin horn.
- [74:46]
Nick Saban
Yeah.
- [74:47]
Pat McAfee
Or any of the other.
- [74:49]
Nick Saban
Well that's what you know when you got bad defense that's what happens. They run through you like through a tin horn.
- [74:56]
AJ Hawk
Why you put through there?
- [74:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that, that's why is it in the tin horn? Can we explore this a little bit more? Yeah, yeah. Cuz you said this on game day last year and obviously it caused quite a. I mean all of our brains were just like oh that's hilarious. I could see that going. So that's like diarrhea that. Not really like a big thick.
- [75:15]
AJ Hawk
Cuz not pushing it through there are you?
- [75:17]
Pat McAfee
Because if you got a long hog.
- [75:18]
Nick Saban
That the horn just visualizes clogged up a trumpet and goes right through it.
- [75:23]
Pat McAfee
So it's a big. The guy. What did they eat though? Like. Yeah, let's move along. Let's move along please. Let's move along. AJ has a question for you. Coach.
- [75:37]
AJ Hawk
Coach. With the Georgia Bulldogs, if. If you're a Kirby, what's he telling his team? Obviously, they lose a big one to Alabama. What do you tell them to make sure this thing isn't a multiple week kind of hiccup and, you know, everything is still out in front of you?
- [75:50]
Nick Saban
Well, I think. I think Kirby probably a little bit disappointed in the big plays they've given up on defense. That's not typically how they play and what they do. Obviously, the issue in the game last week was not getting off the field in third down. If you take all the other parts of their defense and say, how do we play in the game, they played really well. I mean, they stopped the run, they affected the quarterback to some degree, even though they didn't get sacks, but they couldn't get off the field on third down. So they got to have a better plan for that and the players have to do a better job of executing it. I think Gunner, you know, has to settle down even more. There were times in a game where I think he aborted a play when he didn't need to so that they can play with a little bit. Bit more consistency. And, you know, the fourth and one stop in the game was huge. So, you know, there's three or four critical plays in a game that are going to make a difference in the game. And that fourth and one that they didn't make when they could have tied the game with a field goal was critical in the game. So I don't think Georgia's that far off, and I think this was one of those measuring stick games that, okay, we're not that far, far off. Alabama's not that bad. We didn't lose to a bad team. What do we got to do to get better? And I think. I think Kirby's really good at that, and I think his team will respond well to a loss. Honestly, I think when you win all the time at home that it gets to the point where I always thought as a coach that it wasn't always an advantage to play at home because there's lots of distractions, a lot of them. And then when you win all the time, the players start thinking, we're playing at home, we're going to win. So they lose respect for what it takes to win, regardless of where you're playing, because they just think, well, we got the crowd, we got all this. We're just going to show up and make it happen. It doesn't work out that way, especially when you're playing pretty good teams and they won. What 30 some games in a row at home. So maybe their players were a little complacent about that.
- [77:48]
Pat McAfee
33, 33 games at home. Washington had 22. They both go down and they. In the same weekend. I wonder what history has to say about that. The two longest home winning streaks going down in the same exact weekend. I appreciate you pointing out, like, hey, when you win that many games at home in a row, people get comfortable because you've probably done like 14 different times. You are absurd, you know that? You are absurd. And I heard about those five games. I heard about those five games. You shouldn't let your players give books to people. Disgusting. That is absolutely disgusting what he did here. Okay, I want to let you, you know that they took five games away for. Do you know this? Did you know this story?
- [78:21]
AJ Hawk
No, not happened.
- [78:23]
Pat McAfee
First year he was here, they found. He and his staff found out that some of his players were either utilizing their scholarship money or something to give books to other people. Giving books away. Or maybe. And maybe they're getting like 20 bucks or whatever. They found out about 500 bucks in total is what it was. Three years of probation for the team and five losses taken away. That's like his first year here.
- [78:44]
Nick Saban
Do you know, there's a story. There's always a story behind the story. You know, when I came here, we were the only team, you know, some of you guys that are older, we had loan of books in college instead of they bought you your books and you could keep them at the end. So the old way of scholarships back when I played, and we were still antiquated that way here at Alabama, so we were going to change from loan of books, where you had to turn your books in at the the end of the semester on scholarship, to just buying the books for the players and let them keep them. So we did an audit and that's how we found out internally that there was, you know, a few guys that were buying books, track guys, books, so that weren't on scholarship. So you got to give them credit for having compassion. But it was against the rules and, you know, we got nailed for it. And if you look at it, though, it's really. And what's happened in this day and age of football today, you're talking about the ultimate mouse manure when you're up to yours and elephant.
- [79:46]
AP Tone
Well said, coach.
- [79:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's kind of the NCAA's thing though, brother. That's kind of their. Or it was. Oh, fly over. Come on, Karma. We're in a tunnel. We can't get it. We heard you though. If whoever's flying that plane is a watcher of the show, which I've learned is a pretty good majority of them, that sounded cool. We didn't get to hear it, but it sounded very, very cool. Speaking of losing and having bounce back capabilities, this Alabama team has had to show that fsu, obviously, week one, we all saw. Go ahead, Tone.
- [80:20]
AP Tone
Yeah, coach, I have a question. Gus Malzahn is 3, 6 against you and kudos to you because that is actually a really good record against you. And if you count the win earlier against Bama, he's 4 and 6 against Bama. What is it about Gus's offense that makes it so difficult for like these, these defenses that have all these athletes in size and they're always normally good, I believe. I think they're going for 600 yards a game so far this year. But what is it about Gus's offense that gives, you know, teams problems and could give Miami a problem?
- [80:52]
Nick Saban
Well, Gus always gave us the most problems when he had a running quarterback, which is obviously what he has now at Florida State because he is very stubborn and committed to running the football. So when you add the extra element of quarterback runs with all the zone options, zone read, slider options, all that stuff, you know, it adds a whole nother element to the offense and then they have a really good play action, pass, you know, system that goes with that. Not a great drop back team. But when they have a running quarterback, it creates a huge advantage to me for, for Gus in terms of what he loves to do. That's when they gave us lots of problems. A couple of those games were crazy games, man. Crazy games where they beat us kick six. You know, one time we were going to get the ball back with a minute and something to go. We had 12 guys on the field. I mean, just crazy stuff and.
- [81:42]
Pat McAfee
But I watched this too late. Guys on the field. I have no idea how we have 12 guys on the field kick six. Have you ever heard, heard of something so ridiculous? We lost on that one too. I mean, I like the fact that you still have all the memories of the bad ones because all a lot of these numbers, brother, up here are you. This whole here. Do we hit this thing one more time? This whole here. I don't know if you saw.
- [82:03]
Nick Saban
Yeah, but you know, I, I remember all those games that we didn't win and the ones that we lost a lot more than the ones that we won.
- [82:12]
Pat McAfee
But, but what about this though? But you did this. Look at this. Look, look at the lights tied. It's like the. It's like the Detroit airport. You haven't been in there in a long time. Ferrari dealer.
- [82:21]
AJ Hawk
Oh, that is sweet.
- [82:22]
Pat McAfee
Right. Coming across the top. You know what I mean? It's a. It's an awesome thing. But all of this is because of you. How do you feel about Kaylyn DeBoer at this stage? How do you think he has handled this team? A lot of pressure. Mounting pressure there. Whenever, obviously the first week does not go the way that everybody was hoping that it would go. Whenever you think about Caitlin De Board bouncing back, what is your immediate thoughts? And have you talked to him much? I know you're in the same building.
- [82:44]
Nick Saban
Yeah, I talked to him on occasion. We talked after the Florida State game. But, you know, I think Caitlin's done a fantastic job of taking an expectation that everybody had at Florida State and the disappointment of that and getting the team psychologically turned around to get away from playing. I thought they played with a lot of anxiety at Florida State. You know, when the game got seven to seven, it seemed like the energy level changed based on, you know, everything everybody talks about around here is winning, winning, winning, winning. And sometimes that can affect the players. Focus on, what do I need to do to win? And they're so worried about the outcome, they create a bunch of anxiety because of the expectations. You heard me talk about this before. So you got to figure out a different way for the players to approach the competition. You know, like simple things like play one play at a time.
- [83:36]
Pat McAfee
Yep.
- [83:36]
Nick Saban
You know, don't focus on the scoreboard, focus on the next play. Don't worry about the crowd. You know, they're not going to make any plays in the game. You know, things like that that players can focus on to maintain the respect of what it takes to win. And I think Kalin has done a fantastic job of that. And you see the different level of tenacity and the way the players have competed in the last three games. Now the next question is, is they had a big win. How they going to respond to the success of having a big win?
- [84:07]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no, tell them they're good. You should say they're good. Right now.
- [84:12]
Nick Saban
They are good, but Vanderbilt's good, too.
- [84:15]
Pat McAfee
Oh, rat boys in the tunnel right now, coming from this. Connor has a question for you about an SEC team that's battling its core quarterback position.
- [84:23]
Boston Conner
Yeah. Coach John Matier was the Heisman front runner. It looked like Oklahoma was going to have a magical season. Still can. But it kind of was stopped short with Mater getting hurt. What do you think Oklahoma needs to do to stay hot without Mater at the helm? And how do you think they're going to change their style? Or will they change their style because Mater is not out or not playing well?
- [84:46]
Nick Saban
I don't know a whole lot about their backup quarterback, but I think it was, it would be smart for them to make sure they're doing whatever that player can do. You know, if he's a runner, run him. If he's a good drop back passer, pass him. Because I think they got to try to win the games with the other parts of their team elevating. In other words, how well do we play defense? How can we make things happen on special teams and then don't lose the game on offense by doing what the quarterback can do and don't ask him to do things he really can't do. That's what I would say. Now I think they still will have a chance because material is going to miss what, three or four weeks depending. And if they can keep from losing more than one game during that time, I think they'll still have a shot.
- [85:34]
Pat McAfee
Eventable defense, always going to be good. The thought of your season getting better, derailed by an injury like that because man, we were out there at Oklahoma, it was awesome. Yeah, we saw the Venables defense going to do its thing. Arbuckle and Matier are going to be maybe the story of college football. Oklahoma's all the way back and then you just get a devastating blow out of nowhere like hey guys, down. Next man up is the speech obviously that you have to give over there. That's what Venables is trying to do. And at night when Venables sits down, does he say what's the problem? Does he, does he talk to the football guns? Does he say what the hell did I do? Is there any of those moments that you obviously can't let the players see? Well, did you ever have those?
- [86:11]
Nick Saban
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, TUA got hurt. TUA broke his hip. We, we probably had, you know, the, maybe one of the best teams that we ever had the year the Tua broke his hip and you know, we were had 3615 or something at the time, was right at the end of the second quarter and you know, but Mac Jones was not ready at that time. Even though the next year we won the national championship with Mac Jones Playing in 2019, we had one of the best teams that we ever had and we got derailed because of that injury. So yeah, I can see you get Derailed. I mean, it happens.
- [86:52]
Pat McAfee
You can talk to football God saying, what is the problem?
- [86:55]
Nick Saban
But I think from a leadership stand standpoint, you know, you can't do that. You need to say, okay, how do I lead our players, our team, the people in our organization, our coaches, everybody in the organization to being positive about what do we have to do to fix this and give us a plan and an option so that we do have a chance to be successful. So you're creating an hope and an enthusiasm in the organization so that everybody's not sitting around like a fan saying, the sky is falling, we lost the quarterback.
- [87:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but just tell me you're a.
- [87:31]
Nick Saban
Human, though, like, yeah, I'm a human. Because Mac Jones goes to auburn and those two pick sixes when we got the ball in the three yard line and we end up getting beat 4441 or something. I've been there. I get it.
- [87:46]
Pat McAfee
But. Okay, let's talk about Mac Jones. He just had his best professional game last night, prime time. And you said he wasn't ready that year. The next year he was ready. Puts together one of the greatest years in college football with Sarka's oc. Obviously, New England goes how it goes. Then he goes down to Jacksonville. Now he's with Shanahan. Shanahan was allegedly. They were allegedly potentially going to draft him at number three overall. Instead, they end up with Trey Lance because the upside, the athleticism, everything like that, Shanahan getting to experience this with Mac Jones right now. Mac Jones handling it perfectly. Hey, this is Brock Purdy's team. I'm just here to be the backup quarterback, do his thing. Did you get a chance to see last night? And whenever you see something like this happen for one of your players, is there a sense of fulfillment or happiness for them? Because for a long time he's been getting buried about being a bust. This guy sucks. And then he goes to the 49ers and it's almost like a perfect storm for him to be great. And last night he was certainly that as he has been all season for them.
- [88:36]
Nick Saban
Yeah, he has been all season for them. And it does give me, you know, great joy. Very proud, very proud of, you know, all of our guys that, you know, go on and that's. This is what they came here to do. This is why they worked hard. You know, they wanted to win at Alabama, but they also wanted to have a career for themselves and play in the NFL. So when they do it and are successful, it makes me feel wonderful and very proud. Almost like, you know, a father who is proud of the sun, which, you know, I've had the opportunity to be quite a bit as well. So, anyway, I'm so happy for Mack, but I think Mack was one of those guys that was in bad situations in New England relative to coaching and all that type of stuff. And who was the offensive coordinator and how did he get developed when he came in the league, and he hasn't been in great circumstances. I think right now he is in a really good circumstance with Shanahan, their offense, the players he's got around him because he is a guy that will execute. He's really, really smart. So he's going to do exactly what you tell him to do, and he wants to know exactly what you want him to do. And I'm not sure he always got told exactly what it was expected of him before going to the 49ers.
- [89:49]
Pat McAfee
He's got a lot of moxie. I enjoy the way it feels like he is mentally, physically, emotionally in the perfect spot with Shanahan, and we want to let him know it's fun to watch. Did you see his suit? You see a suit? Did you dress him? Were you as Taylor? Did you see what he was wearing?
- [90:02]
Nick Saban
I did. I did not see his suit.
- [90:04]
Pat McAfee
You look good in that suit last week. Hey, can you, can you look? Did you see his suit? This is his suit.
- [90:14]
Nick Saban
This is Mac right here.
- [90:15]
AJ Hawk
Pretty good.
- [90:19]
Nick Saban
I like it. Max, he won.
- [90:22]
Pat McAfee
He won. I'll tell you what, you need to win that. You wear that in. You need to win. And he did, and he played his best game, so keep doing it. Sometimes you do things like that, you know, there's gonna be a lot of heat, you know, a lot of people are gonna watch you put a little public pressure on yourself to perform at your best. I thought you looked really good in that all white suit last week, brother. I thought you looked really good. I know you were pumped about that.
- [90:41]
Nick Saban
I've gotten a lot of. I don't want to say it. What about wearing that white suit?
- [90:47]
Pat McAfee
Compliments, Compliments much mean gun. I thought mine was going to be white. If it means anything, I thought mine was going to be white. When I showed up off white and I saw what everybody else was wearing, and I know all the conversations took place, I was like, I'm certainly adding a little heat to the fire right here. I, I, I will say that, but I thought you look great. And the air maxes that you had on, very clean. I thought, I thought you did a fantastic job. Let's Talk about a fantastic job that needs to be had. Texas travels into a tough environment in Florida, and obviously we chatted about this during a production meeting. I think Jimmy Gara brought up the fact that looking ahead, that was definitely where game day was projected to be. Texas, Florida, DJ Lagway, Arch Manning, they're kind of doing what they're doing right now. Ty has a question for you on that note.
- [91:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Coach? Obviously, everything with Arch Manning hasn't gone the way fans, media, pretty much everyone has expected thus far. What are your thoughts on that game this weekend? And do you think that there's potential cause for concern for Texas as they really get into the meat of their schedule now given kind of how poorly they, you know, or how poorly, I guess it looked in games against kind of substandard competition?
- [91:57]
Nick Saban
Yeah, well, I think probably if I called Sark right now and said, you know, what are you concerned about? He would probably say, well, we haven't been able to run the ball with the kind of consistent that would like to, so we don't have to put everything on a quarterback. And then the quarterback has been a little bit inconsistent in his fundamental accuracy, which is, you know, getting better, but not where he'd like for it to be. I think their defense has been pretty good, but I think they need to get those two things fixed on offense. And they're going to play against a really good, good defensive team, and they're going to play against the defensive team that plays a lot of its Cover 7, but it's kind of an umbrella too deep, you know, where the safeties are involved in the run, but yet you got too deep against the pass. So it's. There's not going to be as many clean looks for the quarterback. And that's one of the reasons that they only give up 173 yards a game passing. I think you saw last week, you know, Miami's quarterback had a little bit struggle, you know, with that secondary. So I know they don't get a lot of pressure on the quarterback, but I think this is going to be an issue. If Arch is not accurate with the ball, it could be a problem. And if they can't run it and he's not accurate with the ball, that adds up to how do you make plays and how do you score in a red zone? When you get in a red zone, how do you.
- [93:20]
Pat McAfee
How is Florida when it's alive? The swamp everywhere in the SEC is obviously good. We're not. I'm not gonna say, including Vandy now, even you Know what I mean? I'm saying everyone, Florida, the Swamp has like a little aj, don't you think? At least in Pittsburgh. I, I think I thought that growing up like Florida, the Swamp, and maybe that's because Tebow and Leak and everybody.
- [93:40]
AJ Hawk
It seems crazy loud watching on tv. It seems like it's a really tough place to play.
- [93:44]
Nick Saban
Yeah, and it was. But most of the time when we played there, they were really pretty good. Even the last time we played there when Dan Mullen was the coach, it was a tough place to play and I think we won 32, 31 or something. I mean, it was a tough game, but it is a tough place to play. But I think, you know, all fans are going to go with the momentum of the game. And it was always our goal when I was coaching to take the fans out of the game with good execution and create momentum for our team. So it takes the fans out of the game. And fans are pretty fickle sometimes when it comes to that. And the more enthusiastic they are sometimes the faster they go out of the game. So that's got to be, that's got to be how you got to approach it, I think when you're going into a place like this and playing.
- [94:34]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's talk. Let's come back to this game here on your field that's going to be played tomorrow. Van Andy, obviously Alabama has created some magical moments. Run the clip, Foxy, please. We show you how to play some SEC ball. It don't matter where you from, you don't know what ball we play. Alabama, you're next. Okay, Alabama, you're next. Now you guys, you. You stopped from scoring 60, I think, against them in this particular game. There's a picture of a bunch of offensive linemen, I think the starters around you asking you to keep going because it was like one minute left in a game and I think it was second and goal or first and goal. I saw it on the Internet and I think you were calling off the dogs at that particular point. But that type of motivation was, I think you said, I would have paid that guy a million dollars to say that going into the Vandy game. Don't need that now. Right. With Vandy and how good does it feel to be that guy now knowing that what he's saying, maybe Vandy can live up to. Don't you. Aren't you happy for that? Ooh, right there saying, hey, bud, you know, good for you.
- [95:31]
Nick Saban
I, I was happy for him at the time because I was losing sleep over how I was Going to motivate our team to play Vandy. And he did it for me, so that was a good thing. And if I was him, I would be proud now of the fact that the Vanderbilt program has elevated itself to being 50 ranked and has a chance to do something spectacular this year.
- [95:53]
Pat McAfee
He should say it again. He should come out. Shouldn't he come out and say it again?
- [95:56]
Nick Saban
I wish he would.
- [96:01]
Pat McAfee
All right, anybody got any more questions for coach back there?
- [96:03]
AJ Hawk
I want to ask about Mac Jones.
- [96:04]
Pat McAfee
Coach.
- [96:05]
AJ Hawk
What was it like with coaching Mac in college? We heard he was pretty lively in practice, very competitive. Like go back and forth a little bit with coaches. Did you ever have that with him?
- [96:14]
Nick Saban
Yeah, I used to call him John McEnroe, you know. You know, Mac was a tennis player in high school. So, like when Mac threw a bad pass, he'd kick and fuss and cuss and all that. So I'd say, john, you going to throw your racket now? I said, you can't do that and play quarterback. You know, you're affecting the whole team out here. You make one bad play and you go bananas. I said, you can't do that. You're going to have bad plays. You got to play the next play. You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language. So it's not an individual sport. You can't throw your racket. Cut that out a little bit.
- [96:56]
Pat McAfee
Took him a little bit, but I think he has reached his maximum Mac Jones potential. And him growing up in tennis is such a different now all of a sudden a lot more makes sense. I heard some people in a Thunderdome going, ah, yeah, because individual sports. Yeah, that is different than. Yeah, like how you react, how you interact, your responses versus what everybody else's responses, especially that's quarterback position. So congrats to man, he a good player. Did you go watch him play tennis at all when you were recruiting him? No. Okay.
- [97:24]
Nick Saban
So, but the other thing is, is, you know, as athletes, you know, we kind of get taught when the coach, like when we're in little league and stuff and the coach is disappointed in us that we should actually show disappointment in ourselves, as if that'll keep the coach from getting on us. And that's exactly the opposite that you want to do. Because when you show disappointment, you're showing a guy you're playing against in a team sport that he's whipping your butt.
- [97:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [97:50]
Nick Saban
So why would you ever do that? You never want to show that kind of emotion. So, you know and that's something that. But. But I'm tell you what, the year Mac Jones played quarterback for us in 2020 and we won the championship, he never did that once. He was a great leader. He was a team guy, and he executed everything to perfection.
- [98:07]
Pat McAfee
We're excited to watch him continue to grow. We have no idea what his future holds, but we do know that he's going to dress sweet. And if he's in that Shanahan offense, he's getting that ball out quick and he's taking deep shots. 82% of the offense last night was through the air for Shanahan. I guess Shanahan's only won like two games. Whenever the number's been over 80%. Mac Jones carried them last night with a lot of injuries. It was a special night for him. I hope it continues. Maybe he's going to sign $180 million deal this offseason.
- [98:34]
AJ Hawk
Yep, he's going to.
- [98:35]
Pat McAfee
He's going to sign 180. Deal. Deal. You think? What if you. You're giving up on Dylan Gabriel already? No, no, not at all.
- [98:41]
Boston Conner
I just, you know, when it comes to quarterbacks who might get a bunch of money, the Cleveland Browns are the ones I look to. To overpay no matter what.
- [98:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's got former coach, so.
- [98:51]
Nick Saban
But I. I want to know what, what. What number quarterback would that be? Because they've had about 30 different guys.
- [98:58]
Pat McAfee
How many years have you seen the jersey? Somebody made like a professional version of the tape jersey and it. There it is right there.
- [99:06]
AP Tone
There's been 10 since Baker.
- [99:09]
Nick Saban
Wow.
- [99:10]
Pat McAfee
Detmer. When were you coaching this team? Who's quarterback?
- [99:13]
Nick Saban
Vinnie Testaverde.
- [99:16]
Boston Conner
Doug Goat.
- [99:17]
Pat McAfee
A little bit before this, I guess. Jeez.
- [99:20]
Nick Saban
Now we were. I was there before they moved to Baltimore, so they actually didn't have a team for a while, which was a shame because cl. Cleveland, such great sports down and you know, the. The spirit that they had at Cleveland, at the Browns. I mean, being a defensive coordinator there, you got to go to the dog pound at noon and everybody's dressed up like it's Halloween barking at your ass. I mean, it's great.
- [99:42]
Pat McAfee
Were you barking with him or did you. Oh, yeah.
- [99:43]
Nick Saban
You had to bark back.
- [99:44]
Pat McAfee
How's your bark? Pretty good.
- [99:47]
Nick Saban
Back then.
- [99:51]
Pat McAfee
He knows I was trying to bait him right there. You son of a. Remember last week we. We go to the digital version. He's like, I'm getting the hill. You remember? Oh, yes. We appreciate you, man.
- [100:04]
AJ Hawk
It was awesome.
- [100:04]
Pat McAfee
All right. Thank you for the hospitality here. And I'm Gonna break some news. He's feeding us tonight. I him and Mr. Wow. Wow.
- [100:11]
Nick Saban
Be great.
- [100:12]
Pat McAfee
Cannot wait. I'm gonna be walking in there on cloud 50, ready to eat everything in there. You know, maybe, maybe I'll slip some of the vitamins into your guys' food. Yeah, maybe. Maybe tomorrow too a little bit. I appreciate the promo you put for game day too. I thought that was a really good promo whenever you spoke to the camera. Yeah, you're getting, you're getting very good at those. I know those aren't the most comfortable things for you to do. You rather talk ball and talk about your experiences. You're becoming incredible television personality and it's been an honor to watch you work. Be a friend of yours and it's great to be back in your town. And hopefully on Saban Field right there, the boys will come continue a magical journey this year after a first week loss.
- [100:48]
Nick Saban
I hope so. And I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you being here. I love these guys. They're great football people. I like talking football.
- [100:56]
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah. Coach, Team on me. Coach, you got anything? You going to put your hand in? Coach, you're going to put your hand in.
- [101:02]
AJ Hawk
There it is.
- [101:03]
Pat McAfee
What you got? What do you got? Coach, what do you got? What do you got? This is. We're breaking this down here to get the out of here. So what you want? You got any messages?
- [101:11]
Nick Saban
Roll, Todd, roll.
- [101:13]
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.
- [101:17]
AJ Hawk
There we go.
- [101:17]
Pat McAfee
Thank. Go, Coach.
- [101:19]
AJ Hawk
Appreciate it.
- [101:20]
Pat McAfee
Man.
- [101:20]
AJ Hawk
I'm shocked he didn't. Shocked he didn't bark. You didn't think he was. Get a few barks out of him.
- [101:26]
Boston Conner
Yeah, saving's the best. I mean that. It's so cool just listening to him talk even about like Mack and former players and just where the team and Deborah is going. It's like you get a real update on what Alabama's kind of going hopefully, you know, onto with DeBoer. Who knows what's gonna happen.
- [101:40]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I want, I love how he said, I love the standard. I love that you are expected to win every single game here. And that's true. I mean that's sort of, I guess everyone, if you're not there, you're trying to get there, right? Like, wouldn't you love your Iowa Hawkeyes to be in that situation?
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean the standard is nine wins every single year, you know, so.
- [101:54]
AJ Hawk
Which is really good.
- [101:56]
Ty Schmidt
We have a standard of our own. But can you imagine like Kaylin DeBoer, like just having him always around? That would be so hard Just knowing that, like, hey, if we don't play our aame and play our best on Saturday and we squeak by someone who we should kill, like, people are just, this guy's still here. People are going to be like, yeah, can't we get his ass out of the first down?
- [102:18]
AJ Hawk
They give up too. We need. We're saving this. Saban's defense would never allow that to happen.
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AP Tone
Well, and they listen to him every Saturday and Friday and stuff. So they know that like, if true, if he really wanted to, he could still do it. Like, it's not like he's too old or. You know what I mean?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
Saban's handled it well though, hasn't he?
- [102:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [102:33]
AJ Hawk
He got out there and peacocked around and acted like he didn't like the board. He's been very, very supportive of DeBoer even though DeBoer did change his whole office up.
- [102:40]
Ty Schmidt
That's what I was.
- [102:42]
AJ Hawk
It went from like old school almost like what early 2000s look like, maybe like this. Papers everywhere on his desk to rich mahogany. Yeah, modern. Like the modern straight lines, no papers.
- [102:56]
Ty Schmidt
People are saying it looks like a T mobile store now.
- [102:58]
AP Tone
Yeah, it's easier to stay awake in. In the bors. I would say, like those late nights, those nice hallogens in there.
- [103:04]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, but does he have an actual wood burning fireplace in there? Like coach.
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AJ Hawk
It looked like Coach Sam. There's a bunch of good games on this weekend, isn't there, Tone?
- [103:12]
AP Tone
Yeah, there's. There's a. It's not as good. Well, let me say this. It's not as good as it's supposed to be from last weekend, but there is still some good ones. Obviously we talked about Miami at Florida State. That one lost a little luster when Florida State lost last week, but there's. I mean that's still a really good game. We talked about Vanity Obama. Obviously Texas at Florida could be a sneaky good one. Houston is four zero and Texas Tech is going to Houston. So another one there. Mississippi State's only loss was in overtime last week to Tennessee. So them going to A and M. Like there's some sneaky good games there. And then obviously you have the NFL slate that, you know, we taught we. There were some people talking some on it earlier in the week. But the more you look at it like, I think it's a pretty solid.
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AJ Hawk
I like Broncos, Eagles. I think that's a sneaky good game as well.
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AP Tone
Me too.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean that's. But with what we've seen so far in the NFL, like I know a lot of these games on paper seem like, you know, shite, but like, the Giants beat the Chargers last week. Like, it is so literally any of these teams could beat anyone.
- [104:08]
AJ Hawk
I mean, Buck Seahawks, I think that one is. It could be a really good game as well. I think the Seahawks are solid. We know the Bucks are good. Pat, I don't know if you got Coach Saban all packed up and on his way, but I didn't realize you're going to dinner tonight at his actual house. Is that what's the question?
- [104:20]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's hosting. He is. Him and Ms. Terry are hosting. I. I can't wait to get over there and see what the place looks like. And I heard you guys while you were doing all that talk, while I was talking to Coach Saban and I heard you say, like, he's still in the building. It's like, yeah, he's still got an office here. He's still watching film as if he's the coach. And to Tone's point, it's hard not to just be like, can we not just get that guy out of that suite that he's in right up there? Just, can we just get him down here? And it's like he. I think he feels an obligation, which certainly is not the reality, but an obligation to Alabama for everything that Alabama has done for him. I think he feels that way, but I think everybody would understand if he just went down to Florida with Ms. Terry and golfed every day. Yeah. And then just did college game day instead. I don't think he has the ability or the capability to get out of the daily routine of driving over here, doing his film, watching stuff, breaking things down, shaking hands, going to talk to people, leading, innovate, and then getting out of here. You know, it's like, I think he'll be doing this for the rest of his life. So Kaylin DeBoer and we talked about this when he got hired. Kaylin DeBoer has a lot of confidence in himself. D3 champion, D2 champion, D1, double A, obviously. He gets up to Indiana, then he gets up to Washington, takes them to a national championship. It's like Kalin Duke has a lot of self confidence in who he is as a coach, but I think anybody else would have cracked. Yeah. Like very, very quickly, I think couple losses. You lose to Florida State this year. Yeah, right. Get the hell out. How loud it was getting even by us. We were saying like, hey, we love Kaylin DeBoer. Reality of the situation here, this is just reality. He has never budged, man. And I think he's even changed his messaging with being in Alabama. So it's like I'm very impressed by. By DeBoer and Clark. Late Vanderbilt, what a dog. I mean, they got dogs all over the field, so I'm very pumped to be here. And then you talked about those notable games. I mean, got Air Force, Navy also this weekend, which is obviously exciting for the United States of America. Anytime you get to the military academies, taking each other on and to your point. AJ Antone, Buck Seahawks, great game. Buck Seahawks is a great game. I don't think any of us would really expect that to be a great game or look forward to that on a lot of weeks, but Bucs, Seahawks, great game. Broncos, Eagles, unbelievable. Commanders, Chargers. Who's going to respond? Patriots, Bills on Sunday Night Football? I mean, maybe it doesn't stink as bad, especially because the Loud House is going to be back on TV with the Raiders coming to town with. They have a 10am local start against us in the Loud House. So I know Max Crosby is going to be juiced. But anytime those west coast teams have to come to east coast time zone, I think that's tough. They're much more mentally tough than I am, but I think that's a difficult thing. So maybe we'll have a great weekend and we're just gonna. And don't, don't forget West Virginia, BYU tonight.
- [106:56]
Ty Schmidt
Okay?
- [106:57]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. That's a big one, man.
- [106:59]
Pat McAfee
You're damn right, Liz. Everything's still in front of us, brother. Okay. Yeah, we lose the Kansas by 100. Yeah. We lose the Ohio University.
- [107:07]
Boston Conner
That's a good team.
- [107:08]
AJ Hawk
How much was it? It wasn't really a hundred. Like what was it, 30 or 40?
- [107:14]
Pat McAfee
Hey, J. Yeah. We don't need to double down on and give exact stack. It was a lot. Okay. We got murdered. I believe some people call it marked is what some people would call it, but we certainly did. Let's cover some of the news that maybe we didn't hit this week that we should have. The Big Ten has been talking to private capital firms to potentially infuse $2 billion into its school. This would obviously require a, you know, a new TV deal, which is up in 2036. The conversation around the TV deals and why it's so important is because if we were to get a top 60 or everybody on the same page, we would have to time up all the TV deals and all the network executives at the same time. So the Big Ten potentially infusing a $2 billion investment, maybe giving up a percentage of the Big Ten in total total to one of these investment firms who have so much money and then having to renegotiate so that they can upfront that payment back. I'm intrigued by it, AJ have you heard much about this in the Big Ten? But once again, Big Ten making money decisions like most Big Ten schools are doing at the moment. I don't mind the brainstorming. I don't mind the idea, especially if it's going to help all their sports teams around the Big Ten agent.
- [108:23]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, they're going to need it. I haven't, I haven't heard too much about it, but it always to me comes Back to the TV deals. As you said, the TV deal runs through what, 20, 36. So how do you find a way to group all that, to figure all of those logistics out? I'm not really sure exactly how it goes. I don't know. I mean, what is the, what does college football look like five years from now?
- [108:42]
Pat McAfee
Nobody knows.
- [108:43]
AJ Hawk
But alone 10 years from now, I mean, no one even knows what any rules are, what you can or can't do right now. So next two, three, five, eight years, who knows what happens?
- [108:51]
AP Tone
I think this was first explored, if I remember correctly, from Florida State maybe last year or two years ago, they were trying Clemson. Yeah, In Clemson, when they're potentially looking to get out of the acc. I think it was JP Morgan at that time. So the Big Ten probably just saw that was like, oh, and they probably saw the, they probably saw the NFL, you know, who private funds are now allowed to invest in and be like, oh, those are pretty good NFL though.
- [109:12]
AJ Hawk
You get, you get equity in the team. How do, what kind of equity do these private firms get in college in.
- [109:17]
AP Tone
The big equity in the school or the conference, and they get these TV deals and you get a chance.
- [109:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it would be the conference. I think it would be in the conference. And then if the teams make the playoffs, that goes to the conference. Right. And the conference has to divvy it up. Yeah. So. So that money comes into. It's like if the conference is negotiating a 2 billion dollar deal, what's the percentage that the conference is giving up? I wish we could just cold call Petiti. I'm not gonna do that. That's putting him in a very bad spot. Hey, petiti, what's the 2 billion in the. Then what's the TV? That's 2 billion. Who's getting all these billions? So congrats to the Big Ten. I like them being innovative to try to figure this whole thing out. Also, Chicago's new stadium is a go in Arlington Heights. Money is now coming out. So the stadium itself is going to cost $2 billion. I believe the Chicago Bears are going to pay for the stadium itself. They have asked for $855 million in public funding for around the stadium, which is obviously Patriot time. What do you guys call it up there?
- [110:15]
Boston Conner
Patriots place. Of course.
- [110:17]
Pat McAfee
There it is. Patriots place. You got Jerry World down there where you don't just own the stadium and all the tickets happening there, the hotel around there, maybe a casino around there, restaurants, shops, just like in Lambeau at Green Bay. So they're asking for 855 million, but they announced it was a 5 billion dollar thing. So where's the other 2.2.145 billion coming from? And where is that going, AJ I think that is the big question. But anytime you get a green light to move on a new stadium, we as NFL fans are happy about that. I do wonder what, how long this is all going to take and where's the other 2.145 billion coming from or going? I'm sure they'll figure that out. I'm sure it'll be very clean. Operation entirety. Go ahead.
- [110:59]
AJ Hawk
Well, yeah, we know these things have never like any kind of construction. You know, it's usually over budget. So they just, they're planning for this. They're anticipating that we're going to be $2 billion over. Is that what this is? But where does it come from? Then I guess they can crawl back to the cities. Hey, we don't say we didn't warn you. We need just good news. We don't need to bill. We need 1.95 billion. So it's actually a little bit less.
- [111:20]
Pat McAfee
Actually we need 3 billion. If they're giving 2 billion just for the stadium and then they're asking for 855 million for around the stadium. If they're going to get that much money, why didn't they just redo Soldier Field? I don't think I, I love it. Hey, I love it. And Kevin Warren, a man who partially negotiated the last Big Ten deal that we were just kind of chatting about. And I think there were some interesting strategies in negotiating that TV contract contract by Kevin Warren. And I think there's a lot of things set. You know, we're canceling football during COVID Kevin Warren and all that type of stuff and not going to let anybody on the Pat McAfee show because they point out that I canceled football during COVID and also everything else. Kevin Warren, that guy, Kevin Warren. It's like he wanted to. Didn't he want to go through the feng shui of the suites?
- [112:14]
Ty Schmidt
Correct. He was very hands on with designing the suites and making sure the feng shui way was correct.
- [112:19]
Pat McAfee
So there's no way we're redoing Soldier Fuel because Kevin Warren Sweets have a different look. And I assume if you own everything like they're going to up there at Arlington Heights, the profit is massive. And I assume this is going to work out for Kevin Warren and the Chicago Bears. They might have a team that might be worth it too, brother, at this point. And so good for them. Anytime money is invested into ball, we appreciate it. Speaking of that, Virginia Tech's board has approved adding an extra 220, $29 million to its athletic budget. That's not one year. That's a rollout plan over a few years. B.A. obviously friend of the program, Super bowl champion coach. B.A. is part of the advisory board for Virginia Tech to find their next head coach. They're going all in. It's like you can kind of figure out who's going, who's not going. Vandy definitely a school that's going. Virginia Tech says they're a school that's going to be going as well. I respect and appreciate the hell out of that. AJ Hawks well.
- [113:10]
AJ Hawk
And don't you think this is just what a dog whistle for all the great coaches say, hey, you can come here. We need to recruit a great new head coach, because guess what? We can win. If we don't have this in place, you don't really have a chance. You might be able to win seven, eight games, but you can't win at all.
- [113:24]
Pat McAfee
And on that note, like, nobody looks at UCLA in the football world as a good job. Everybody likes. Everybody likes ucla, like the school, the colors, the place, everything, the history. But nobody in football was like, you know what? UCLA will back you out. That doesn't feel like it's a narrative right now for UCLA people. I'm just telling you what I'm hearing these ears without my headphones in because I can actually hear what they're saying. That is kind of how it's going. Chris Boswell earlier this year said that James Harrison told him in his first practice that if he misses a kick, he has to wash his back, which might be why he's so good. Intuit said that doctors told him that he needs to eat all the sandwiches and pizza he can because it's good for his concussion. Questions In a nutshell. That's everything we haven't talked about this week. AJ Is that everything?
- [114:05]
AJ Hawk
I think you nailed it. You nailed it real quick. It was nice.
- [114:08]
Pat McAfee
Toxic table. Did I miss anything?
- [114:10]
Boston Conner
Red Panda is practicing again after her wrist surgery.
- [114:12]
Pat McAfee
Let's go, Red Panda.
- [114:15]
AJ Hawk
She can't afford another fall. We can't have her fall again.
- [114:18]
Dan Orlovsky
Why would you even say that?
- [114:20]
AJ Hawk
What are you talking about? You got to talk about it. If it's mentionable, it's manageable. That's. Mr. Rogers used to say that.
- [114:25]
Boston Conner
That's a great saying.
- [114:26]
Pat McAfee
Mr. Rogers is a great Pittsburgh insert. Okay? So he needs not to be quoted by you in a negative sense. He was nothing but positivity. Which we will continue digitally and we'll see you on overreaction Monday. Going to be a great weekend of sports. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We'll see you Monday. Goodbye. Okay, I feel like I missed the goodbye, but they will get that I was saying goodbye. Let's take a break on the other side. Let's make our picks. I believe they're going to open this tunnel up completely for people. And while they're doing that, we're going to show you a great college football podcast with another guy. The other guy, Stanford. Steve, A.J. you're killing it. We'll see you in a moment. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Take.
- [115:11]
Dan Orlovsky
Hey, fans.
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Pat McAfee
Welcome back to Fansville's Cheers and tears. Aw. Okay, so like, everybody deals with, like, losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal. Whatever. It's fine. I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Mmm. Those 23 flavors are, like, so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a pepper thing. You ever show up late to the game and your friends already saved your seat, your drink, even a plate that's looking out, that's having your back. And that's exactly what AT&T does with the ATT guarantee. They know staying connected matters. That's why AT&T has connectivity you depend on. Guaranteed. Or they'll proactively make it right. Just like that friend who takes care of things before you even ask. @&t. Connecting changes everything. Terms and conditions apply. Visit att.comguarantee for details. Here we go.
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AJ Hawk
Hour three, the Pat McAfee Show. I'm A.J. hawk, sitting in for Pat here in Indy. Thanks to Nick Saban, Dan Orlovsky, Pat's in Tuscaloosa.
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Pat McAfee
Football.
- [116:30]
AJ Hawk
What's going on? Pat, who you got over there? What a. What a shirt you got on there.
- [116:33]
Boston Conner
I see you.
- [116:34]
AJ Hawk
Who you represent?
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Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, dugout. You know what's going on there? He bought this from a tent outside of Ramajama this morning. Ramajama noted local diner. We had breakfast there with four time national champion Josh Chapman, former teammate of mine. He is a fantastic soul, a fantastic presence, a large man who obviously eats well. We ate well. And while I was going to the bathroom on our way out, Gumpy came back. I just bought this and I said, where? And he pointed at a tent that was in the parking lot and he's got a merch store set up. He's got Dale Earnhardt representing on the gut. He's got Daytona 500 on the chest. And we're in for a great 48 hours here in lovely Teatown. AJ thank you for traveling to Indianapolis. I know you're not alone over there. Toxic tables there at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to the Yankees, Dumpy. Happy for you, Todd. Thank you, Gumpy.
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Ty Schmidt
Thank you, fan.
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Pat McAfee
Gumpy is a Boston Red Sox fan. Even though he grew up in Victoria, Canada. Went to about 10 of the games this year for the boss of Red Sox. I followed along his IG story as he sat on top of the Green Monster. He is a Red Sox fan. What did you keep saying? True fan to tie for because what was that? What it felt like? That was kind of a. A slight. It felt like you were taking a shot at somebody.
- [117:50]
Gumpy
No, I just never gave up.
- [117:52]
Pat McAfee
He.
- [117:52]
Gumpy
He trusted his boys to get it done. He never quit on him.
- [117:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but who were you never made.
- [117:56]
Gumpy
Excuses or anything like that.
- [117:57]
Pat McAfee
I never.
- [117:58]
Ty Schmidt
I never watched once gave up.
- [118:01]
Pat McAfee
Is that right? I was talking about you, Bruce. I did, Gumpy.
- [118:08]
AJ Hawk
I said that.
- [118:09]
Ty Schmidt
You were talking about me. You don't have to do like the thinly veiled.
- [118:12]
Pat McAfee
Whoa.
- [118:13]
Ty Schmidt
While I did speculate about Garrett Cole coming back in the Yankees getting Paul skin, there was never doubt that the Red Sox were an inferior opponent.
- [118:22]
Pat McAfee
Shitler. Boy, did he do his job. He's got eyes for it. I told you that pregame. I told Pat that pre game.
- [118:27]
AJ Hawk
I told Tony that.
- [118:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he told Bruce did tell me on the way out, he said. He said, hey, just like Rod dawn had those eyes, I think is his name. He said, this kid's got the same eyes. This kid is ready for the moment. And he certainly was. And your Red Sox, you guys have good. Yeah, you guys have Good.
- [118:43]
Gumpy
No excuses.
- [118:44]
Boston Conner
Good years. We were pretty banged up too, but good year.
- [118:49]
Gumpy
No, no, it's good young squad.
- [118:52]
Pat McAfee
Connor, what are you saying? You making excuses right now? Is that what it sounded like right there?
- [118:55]
AJ Hawk
No, no.
- [118:55]
Boston Conner
We lost already. So we don't have to make excuses. It's done. We are the losers. They are the winners. But you're telling me a guy with the name Tony Tony in New York City wouldn't have helped the Boston Rev Sox one?
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AP Tone
He's right.
- [119:07]
Ty Schmidt
You might be right.
- [119:10]
Pat McAfee
Valid 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys AP tone and a fantastic cowboy hat. Gumpy's here because we got one thing left to do and that's pick the entire NFL slate. We are undefeated going into the weekend. First time long time for me and AJ Obviously Gumpy will be helping me out and the boys. Vikings, Browns, 9:30am Coming to you live from London time on NFL Network. Vikings have ruled out these players for Sunday's game in London against the Browns. J.J. mcCarthy, Donovan, Jackson, Ryan Kelly, Brian O', Neal, Michael Yergen and Van Gink. That's obviously a lot of players not suiting or booting in London after an international game last week against the Pittsburgh Steelers saw them lose. They're favored by three and a half taken on Cleveland. Gumpy, what is your first thoughts whenever you see that line?
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Gumpy
I kind of fancy the Browns here. I like Judkins. He's been playing well. I like him to get it going. I like Dylan Gabriel too.
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Pat McAfee
AJ what are your thoughts? You fancy the Browns like Gumpy, or do you think Kevin o' Connell over there is going to be a brain to cook something up? Last night we saw a very decimated team with injuries come through and win in a big way. Feels like the NFL is. You're not supposed to do that. They end up doing that type league. AJ what are your thoughts?
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, just like Gumpy, I think I fancy the Cleveland Browns here, especially since they're three and a half point dogs.
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AP Tone
Yeah, a four and a half also just popped up.
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AJ Hawk
I'll take four and a half. I do judge. Who knows what the turf's going to be like. I'm sure it'll be sloppy. They'll probably try to slow Miles Garrett and his rush down, but that helps. I think Jutkins can still move around. Give me the Browns here, Pat.
- [120:40]
Pat McAfee
I didn't even think about the shite turf in London that helps the O lineman.
- [120:45]
Ty Schmidt
You know that hot Hotspur Stadium.
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AP Tone
We'll get it figured out.
- [120:48]
Gumpy
Yeah, Spur Stadium.
- [120:50]
Pat McAfee
I don't think they will, actually. I. I Don't know. I don't know if anybody other than Ireland has ever really had it figured out. And Ireland even had a little couple slips. It's just a different. It's a different grass, different game, different explosiveness. It's a different, you know, experience for the athletes on the field. I'll stick with the Brown, so I fancy the Browns as well. I think Dylan Gabriel does well, even though I think B flow is going to make it very difficult for him. We will certainly take four and a half if we can. Houston Texans at the Baltimore Ravens. Everything about this is Lamar Jackson out, Cooper cushion. But Lamar's not the only guy. Here's who Lamar the Ravens have not practicing on this feel good fast Friday. Obviously stars galore. Everybody on there is a name that we know and it doesn't include Annabel Amabique, who's a D tackle, who's been ruled out for the season, who's one of their Pro Bowlers and their stars. Ravens decimated. They have a tall task. Tone, what is the thoughts? What is the percentage of money in this particular game?
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AP Tone
So it's you can get a minus one and a half for the Texans to a plus two and a half for the Ravens if you're interested. The money is actually 73. 3% on the Ravens. So they still think the Ravens can do it against a Texans offense that has been shite so far this season.
- [122:02]
Pat McAfee
Ty, it sounds like you think that's tasty. Is that what I heard over there?
- [122:06]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean, kind of. You know, hey, listen, we've. We've seen what Cooper Kush can do in the past. I might. Me thinks I might be riding with the public on this one.
- [122:17]
Pat McAfee
Connor, do you have any say?
- [122:18]
Boston Conner
No, I think Cooper Kush. I think Ty nailed it.
- [122:20]
Pat McAfee
I think.
- [122:21]
Boston Conner
I think Cooper Kush is. He's got the juice, I believe. I don't know if he beat the Texans or he played the Texans already when he was with Dallas, but it does feel as though Cooper Kush might get the job done. And maybe Derrick Henry finally says I'm.
- [122:34]
Pat McAfee
A hold on to the ball.
- [122:35]
Boston Conner
Okay.
- [122:36]
Pat McAfee
A.J. did you see the C.J. stroud quote? Was that AI?
- [122:40]
AP Tone
I think it was real.
- [122:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What do you say?
- [122:42]
Ty Schmidt
I think it may have been real.
- [122:43]
AP Tone
He's not as. He doesn't feel as athletic as he was when he was young, younger, 23 or whatever.
- [122:47]
Ty Schmidt
He's getting old, man.
- [122:48]
AJ Hawk
He's throwing him off the set, you know, of course. Classic, classic move. Throw him off. Make him think that you're. You're lost. Like you're washed already.
- [122:55]
Pat McAfee
Man, I'm getting old. I'm not as quick as I once was. It's like, bro, you're 23. What? What?
- [122:59]
Boston Conner
Excuse me.
- [122:59]
Pat McAfee
You're gonna be getting faster. You're gonna be getting faster. Actually, you're about to hit your prime at like 28. Your. Your body actually gonna. I feel like I'm getting old. I'm not as quick as I used to be. He's only gonna get quicker, we think. Yeah.
- [123:10]
Gumpy
Right behind metal line. Battle line's been shite for two years now.
- [123:14]
Pat McAfee
They have been shite. Why aren't they fixing that? That's away on protect this guy. Geez Louise. On that note, I will take.
- [123:29]
AJ Hawk
Bless you.
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Pat McAfee
I don't know how many people are sneezing in this tunnel. So two weeks old. First one. That might be the first one. Roll tie.
- [123:36]
Nick Saban
Roll tie.
- [123:36]
Pat McAfee
But I don't think you say black. Bless you. I think. I think you got that wrong time. Of course. I'll take Boom. I'll take the Texans plus what Can.
- [123:49]
AP Tone
I get them two or. Sorry. One and a half. Minus one and a half for the Texans, plus two and a half for the Ravens.
- [123:56]
Pat McAfee
I'll take the Texans, minus one and a half. Raiders at Colts. I'm taking the Colts. Thanks. Welcome to the loud house. It's a problem. AJ you are as well, obviously.
- [124:04]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I don't think I gave a pick previously. I'm taking the Texans at minus one and a half on that game. But hey, I am a believer in the Colts. Give me the Colts here. What is it? Six and a half point faves.
- [124:12]
Pat McAfee
I like. I like that gumpy. You like the Colts. We're gonna be in there. Yeah.
- [124:15]
Gumpy
Also, favorite bet of the weekend, Geno Smith to throw an interception is minus 130. He's doing it in every game he.
- [124:21]
Pat McAfee
Does, he gets a little loose with him.
- [124:22]
Gumpy
Minus130 is way too short.
- [124:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but the Chicago picks were a great place. I mean, like Gino the. The Chicago Bears defense was gobble, gobble, gobble. Like Pac man on those roads, you know, doing his thing. Brown Broncos, Eagles. Eagles favored by 3 1/2 at home. Toxic table. Anything we should think about there? Not really.
- [124:43]
Ty Schmidt
I think this is kind of a run of the mill. I think both teams are. Are fairly healthy. We'll see. The Denver defense obviously has been very, very stout early. So kind of good on. Good here.
- [124:54]
Boston Conner
Yeah, Denver might have figured it out on offense too. Like, they're kind of clicking. Sutton Franklin's going mims was going last game. Yeah. Dobbins is going. They're tight end Trotman Ingram. I'm not sure if he's banged up or not, actually, because I think he did. Yeah, he is a little bit. So I don't know if he's playing, but yeah, Broncos might be figured out right now.
- [125:14]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So I'm going go with the Eagles minus three and a half. Yep. AJ I didn't hear anything you said, by the way. You. We. We lost you guys from most of your tank. Good, good. Most your tank. We lost Eagles. Yeah.
- [125:28]
Ty Schmidt
Eagles should be good in this one.
- [125:30]
Pat McAfee
I honestly. Yeah. Just try to build up the Broncos.
- [125:32]
Boston Conner
Take the Eagles.
- [125:33]
Pat McAfee
Hold. Oh. So I completely countered your entire. We didn't hear a thing over here. It completely froze. We didn't even know if we're. You built up the Broncos that whole time. No, no.
- [125:42]
Boston Conner
We both were just like, the defense sucks. Offense, they're just not there yet. And the Eagles are rolling, so it wouldn't make sense.
- [125:49]
Pat McAfee
Take the Bron.
- [125:50]
AJ Hawk
I'm taking. I heard it. I'm actually taking the Broncos here in this one. But I did hear the way I like.
- [125:55]
Pat McAfee
I like to hear what people say.
- [125:56]
Ty Schmidt
Broncos, you can get it plus four.
- [125:58]
AP Tone
And a half as well.
- [125:58]
Boston Conner
Oh, never mind, never mind, never mind. Fangio, revenge game against Broncos. He's going to lock b. Knicks the down.
- [126:06]
Pat McAfee
Good call. I didn't hear any of this pro Bronco stuff you said, but I did just hear a couple pro Eagles things. I'll take the Eagles minus three and a half. Dallas Cowboys. New York Jets. Cowboys. He's favored by two and a half in MetLife. This feels too easy. Tone, what is the percentage on this?
- [126:23]
AP Tone
So you could get the Cowboys minus a half. You could get the jets plus two and a half. And the percentage on this one is.
- [126:31]
AJ Hawk
What am I missing?
- [126:32]
AP Tone
The Cowboys. Cowboys. 66% are in the Cowboys.
- [126:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, me too.
- [126:39]
AP Tone
Maybe.
- [126:39]
Gumpy
Yeah. Last time Cowboys went on the road, everyone thought they were going to beat the Bears.
- [126:43]
AJ Hawk
They.
- [126:43]
Gumpy
They got shite kicked.
- [126:44]
Ty Schmidt
Maybe it's just the Cowboys run defense is kind of shite.
- [126:47]
AP Tone
Or defense in general.
- [126:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [126:48]
Ty Schmidt
Or defense in general.
- [126:49]
Gumpy
And Allen out. So they just got pre fall now.
- [126:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. To. Yeah. Bruce just put up on the monitor.
- [126:59]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, that's probably.
- [127:00]
Pat McAfee
He said this. This is potentially what people are talking about.
- [127:03]
Gumpy
While Justin Fields can't really sling it.
- [127:04]
Pat McAfee
So. Whoa, whoa. They don't. They don't choose to. They don't. They had two passes. Attempts in the first two quarters.
- [127:11]
Gumpy
I mean, if they're. Can they run it for.
- [127:12]
AJ Hawk
Glenn's looking for his first win too, as a coach. You know, it's going to be a whole game ball situation if he finds a way to get a win.
- [127:18]
Pat McAfee
I'll take the Jets. I'm taking the jets just because this is stinky. This is super stinky. I have no idea what. Well, I'll take the jets plus I can get them. I can get five points. Is that what you said?
- [127:27]
AP Tone
Two and a half.
- [127:29]
AJ Hawk
I can get the Cowboys at minus.
- [127:31]
Ty Schmidt
One and a half.
- [127:32]
AJ Hawk
Oh, give me the cow. I mean, come on now. Dak is seeing the field. We know that. Give me.
- [127:37]
Pat McAfee
All right, I got the jets plus two. What a.
- [127:40]
Gumpy
That's ugly.
- [127:42]
AJ Hawk
Do it.
- [127:43]
Pat McAfee
How. How's that even come out of my mouth? How. You know, it's hard to.
- [127:47]
AJ Hawk
I mean, honestly, we have no clue. The NFL, like, we don't know these. The coaches don't know. Like, it is wild.
- [127:53]
Gumpy
The jets in the jets defense, if they didn't turn the ball over, you.
- [127:56]
Pat McAfee
Know, if, if, if, if, if, if.
- [128:00]
Ty Schmidt
Scored more points, fumble three times and have 40 penalties, they. They probably win that game.
- [128:05]
Gumpy
Dolphins defense did play great though.
- [128:07]
Pat McAfee
Okay, I'll take the jets plus two and a half. What a terrible I. That's disgusting. Let's go Jets. Let's go, boys. J E T S Jets. Yeah. Bingo. We're all rolling. Tide down there. All right, good luck. Jets. New York Giants, New Orleans Saints. Saints favored by 2 and A. All right, I'll take part. Giants.
- [128:28]
Gumpy
You want to talk about stinky lines? Stinky as it gets.
- [128:32]
Pat McAfee
Who do you like? You like the Saints?
- [128:33]
Gumpy
I love the Giants, but it reeks.
- [128:35]
Pat McAfee
It does. This is. This is the little Dana Orlovsky explaining a bad take right now. Tone, what's going on with this particular line? Because I saw a video from the New York Giants social media team feels like the boys are very tight over there. They were all reenacting who Scatter Boo is doing an impression of Scatter Boo and I guess he just shakes his head and yells. I guess that's like who he is. He's a rookie. He's beloved. Jackson Dart obviously does his thing. It wasn't the prettiest game, I guess for his debut. But Bruce, why are the saints favored by 2 1/2? Just strictly because they don't think old Jackson and Scatter Boo can handle the South. Is that what's happening?
- [129:08]
Ty Schmidt
I think there are some better lines out there for, you know, if you were to take the Saints than.
- [129:14]
Pat McAfee
Than laying the full two and a half. But it Is trapping.
- [129:17]
Ty Schmidt
Vibes are a little too high. Jackson dart mvp.
- [129:20]
Pat McAfee
Everybody loves Can Cam scatter. Boo. I'm a little bit worried going in, but.
- [129:25]
Ty Schmidt
Hey, Jackson Dart 1 0, the Rattlesnake 0 and 10.
- [129:29]
Pat McAfee
What are we talking about?
- [129:30]
Ty Schmidt
Jackson dart to score a touchdown plus.
- [129:33]
Pat McAfee
210 in the Giants money line. Connor, this is stinky.
- [129:36]
Boston Conner
Yeah, it is very stinky. I think we should listen to Bob Sala here. He said Rattler's gonna be. He's gonna be a household. He's gonna be a household name now. Okay. And also, the Saints weren't that bad in.
- [129:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [129:48]
Boston Conner
In Buffalo. It wasn't that ugly.
- [129:51]
AP Tone
They've only one real bad game.
- [129:52]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [129:53]
Gumpy
It wasn't. It wasn't really until the worst. Philly. Philly of all time. They were cooked.
- [129:56]
Boston Conner
Bingo.
- [129:57]
Pat McAfee
All right, I'll take the Saints minus two and a half. AJ who are you thinking?
- [130:01]
Dan Orlovsky
You get a.
- [130:01]
AP Tone
Minus one and a half if you want.
- [130:03]
Pat McAfee
All right. Sweet. I don't know why, literally, this just doesn't make sense to me. To my brain. I just go, giants. Good vibes. They're gonna win this game. And then it's like, well, what are the sports books? Why are they doing that? Why? Why?
- [130:17]
Boston Conner
This is probably the only game the Saints have a chance to win. I. I would say this year. So maybe that's why the. The line's so weird.
- [130:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [130:25]
Pat McAfee
All right, give me Kelly Moe getting the first big dub minus one and a half. A.J. who you got?
- [130:30]
AJ Hawk
I'm with the Giants. What? Plus two and a half, Tone.
- [130:32]
Nick Saban
Yeah.
- [130:32]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Giants. Why am I doing this, though? I should just pick.
- [130:35]
AJ Hawk
I love Spencer. I'm legit a Spencer Rattler fan. I have been for a while. So I. I wouldn't be shocked if the Saints win the game, but they.
- [130:41]
Pat McAfee
Don'T have fo, Fo and six in the trap. What up, Big Blue? Big Blue. I don't like this one. I don't feel good about any of these. And I don't like what I did last week, and I don't like any of these. Dolphins and Panthers. Dolphins favorite. Okay. I mean, what do we.
- [130:57]
Gumpy
88% of the money is on Panthers.
- [131:01]
Pat McAfee
Do you. Who. I'll take the Panthers on this one, fellas.
- [131:04]
AJ Hawk
Give me the Panthers. Bounce back for the Panthers.
- [131:06]
Pat McAfee
Here we go. We lost you again. We lost you again. You're frozen a little bit. Oh, yeah.
- [131:11]
Boston Conner
You're frozen.
- [131:12]
Pat McAfee
We can hear you, though.
- [131:13]
AJ Hawk
We can hear you.
- [131:14]
Pat McAfee
We hear you. We can hear you. Neither can come.
- [131:18]
AP Tone
Okay, so you can't hear us.
- [131:19]
Pat McAfee
They said they can hear us, but they can't see us.
- [131:21]
Nick Saban
We're frozen.
- [131:23]
AJ Hawk
I'm hold up a C. I'm taking Carolina. That's for the Carolina Panthers.
- [131:27]
Ty Schmidt
And now we can't see.
- [131:29]
Boston Conner
Yeah, it might be a little like.
- [131:31]
Pat McAfee
We'Re going to end. And 88.
- [131:35]
AP Tone
I didn't see that number. I saw.
- [131:37]
AJ Hawk
He said 88 is on the Carolina.
- [131:38]
AP Tone
I saw 51 on the Carolina Panthers.
- [131:42]
AJ Hawk
What do you think happens, Tom?
- [131:44]
AP Tone
I, I, I'm not gonna watch this game. I'm not gonna bet on this game.
- [131:48]
Boston Conner
Respectfully.
- [131:49]
AP Tone
Bringing it up when he can't hear you. Yeah, he knows dolphins. I said to him yesterday, I don't think.
- [131:55]
AJ Hawk
Gump, can you hear us now? Are you guys back?
- [131:57]
Pat McAfee
We can hear you. We can hear you. Can you hear us? Yeah. Perfect. Dumpy said AJ has never once picked a Dolphin since the beginning of us doing that.
- [132:06]
AP Tone
Yeah, well, while you guys are gone, he took Carolina, so.
- [132:09]
Gumpy
Yeah, yeah, I heard that part.
- [132:11]
Pat McAfee
That's why I said, you know what? You know what? Pizza and sandwiches for concussions. Give me the Carolina panthers.
- [132:21]
Gumpy
Darren Waller +250 to get in the pain. He's going to play more. He's going to.
- [132:25]
AJ Hawk
That's a good one. I agree.
- [132:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I forgot about top play. I love Darren.
- [132:31]
AJ Hawk
He's good.
- [132:32]
Pat McAfee
I'm so happy for. They said Eric Waddle is miked up, I guess in a. HM was miked.
- [132:36]
Gumpy
Up when they did the touchdown. And Waddle just goes, you're just like a big bear.
- [132:40]
Boston Conner
And he's just like you're master.
- [132:42]
Pat McAfee
He's so big. It was awesome. Got him play football for two years. They put him in like must have it situations. He has two touchdowns and he's on the damn hand seat. Can we make this big so we can see the, the graphics on there.
- [132:55]
AJ Hawk
Next one's Titans.
- [132:56]
Boston Conner
There it is.
- [132:57]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no, it's this. That zoom screen is. Yeah. If we could just. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Okay, so the, the Titans and the Cardinals. Cardinals favored by seven and a half at home.
- [133:12]
AJ Hawk
So many points.
- [133:13]
Pat McAfee
Dudes, this, this, this stinks. It's a tough slate.
- [133:19]
Boston Conner
It truly is.
- [133:21]
Ty Schmidt
It really does.
- [133:22]
Boston Conner
Truly.
- [133:22]
Pat McAfee
No, guys never know. There's gonna be.
- [133:24]
Gumpy
Hey, there's gonna be some good ball games, but it's a tough slate.
- [133:27]
AJ Hawk
I'm taking the Cardinals.
- [133:28]
Pat McAfee
I'm taking the Cardinals because AQ Shipley's on the call. That's part of it.
- [133:33]
AJ Hawk
That is. I think they're gonna feel his positive vibes.
- [133:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. All right, I'm flipping this Thing this side is Cardinals up. The whole side is tight. Titans on the back. All right, I'll take the Titans.
- [133:46]
AP Tone
You can get the Titans plus eight and a half.
- [133:48]
Gumpy
Oh, eight and a half.
- [133:49]
Pat McAfee
Give me the Titans plus eight and a half. Tampa Bay Buccaneers versus the Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks favored by four and a half at home. Obviously, we're all wondering if the home field advantage will continue for the Seattle Seahawks. Adam Schefter has reported that the Buccaneers have officially ruled out running back Bucky Irving for Sunday's game at Seattle due to his sprained foot. Mike Evans, Benjamin Morrison, Jim Dean and Christian also ruled out for Sunday for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. AJ does that sway you one way or the other, brother?
- [134:19]
AJ Hawk
That does sway me a bit. I was. I was somewhat leaning Seahawks. Now I'm, I'm stamping it. Give me the Seahawks here.
- [134:25]
AP Tone
You get the Seahawks minus three.
- [134:27]
AJ Hawk
I love the Seahawks. Minus three. Yeah, give me Seahawks.
- [134:29]
Pat McAfee
Wow. What do you think?
- [134:31]
Gumpy
I like the Bucks getting four and a half.
- [134:32]
AJ Hawk
It's hard because I'm torn. I love Baker.
- [134:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [134:35]
AJ Hawk
I love Sam Darnold as well.
- [134:36]
Gumpy
I think it's just going to be. It's going to be tight. For whatever reason. McDonald's way better on the road than he is at home. Abuka scores every game. And I think Chris Godwin gets in the paint here, too.
- [134:45]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [134:46]
Gumpy
Second game back.
- [134:47]
Pat McAfee
How? Connor?
- [134:52]
Boston Conner
Yeah.
- [134:53]
Pat McAfee
Gut instinct. Who are you going with?
- [134:56]
Boston Conner
Last year I lost a fantasy football playoff game because I did not beat start Baker because he. They're playing the Chargers and I thought, oh, it's a long flight. They're gonna suck. They kicked the out of the Chargers. So, I mean, everything in me tells me to take Seattle, but it feels.
- [135:11]
Pat McAfee
Like Tampa and I can get what, four and a half, you said? Yeah, five and a half.
- [135:16]
AP Tone
Maybe I'm not seeing one right now.
- [135:21]
Gumpy
It might get to 5, but I don't know.
- [135:23]
AP Tone
71% on Tampa, so I don't know if it's gonna move anymore more.
- [135:26]
AJ Hawk
Not as much as 88 on Carolina. Right.
- [135:28]
Pat McAfee
Well, okay, I'll take. I'll take the Seahawks then. With what? The sports books. I wanted to take the Bucks, which they still might win this thing, but I guess I'll do minus three for the Seahawks. Washington, Los Angeles Chargers, three and a half. Both these teams have to truly stamp and figure out who they are. Jaden Daniels, is he playing? Yes.
- [135:47]
Boston Conner
Yes.
- [135:49]
Pat McAfee
Justin Herbert. Any other injuries for Chargers?
- [135:58]
AP Tone
They've had some line injuries. I don't know of any on the defense, but so you know, you get chargers minus two and a half and you get commanders plus three and a half.
- [136:07]
Pat McAfee
Okay, who you got, A.J.
- [136:10]
AJ Hawk
Dang. Terry McLaurin and Noah Brown both aren't even traveling to LA. Yeah, you know what? I'll give me the worship in Commanders. I'll take them. What do I get them at?
- [136:18]
AP Tone
Plus three and a half.
- [136:19]
AJ Hawk
Plus three and a half.
- [136:20]
Pat McAfee
Okay, I'll take the Chargers minus three and a half. Lions favored by ten and a half against the Bengals in the jungle. AJ Cincinnati fans are getting smacked in a mouth right now. No home field advantage because you know that's three, four points, that's two touchdowns. What the Lions actually favored by going into Cincinnati. The Cincinnati Bengals have looked a lot like ass as football team. Obviously Joe Burrow gets hurt. Jake Browning is their qb. Zach Taylor hasn't really made a of lot lot of things happen for them and they are a tough watch. They're still on Thanksgiving night from what I've been told. Ty, is that accurate?
- [136:52]
Ty Schmidt
That is correct. We are actively trying to get them to change that as we speak. We'll see what happens. Do we know who the ruler of the jungle is for this game?
- [137:00]
AP Tone
That's a good question.
- [137:02]
Pat McAfee
Good question, A.J. is it AJ?
- [137:04]
AJ Hawk
It should be. If it's Pac Man Jones, I'm taking the Bengals. You think Pac Man.
- [137:08]
Pat McAfee
If it was Pac Man Jones, I would take the Bengals as well. Just. Just so we are clear, I would take it. Can we. Can we google that?
- [137:16]
AP Tone
It's. Oh, it's a comedian in Cincinnati.
- [137:22]
Pat McAfee
I love Gary. I enjoy. I enjoy the hell out of Gary. Thank you for your service too, Gary. Obviously former military man. Gary is awesome. I don't think this should be the game he said yes to. You know, I love Gary. David Montgomery, homecoming game, for what it's worth. And then last year, the Lions against absolute shite teams. 5214 against the Titans, 526 against the Jags. They both had their backups in that game as well, so we don't really mess around with backup quarterbacks.
- [137:54]
AJ Hawk
No, you do not.
- [137:55]
Pat McAfee
Hey ag, you need to somehow get out of being a ruler this weekend. You don't need that on your record. I'll take the Lions minus 10 and.
- [138:02]
AJ Hawk
A half, AJ Lions minus 10 and a half.
- [138:05]
Pat McAfee
Oh, 10 and a half.
- [138:08]
AJ Hawk
I don't love. I don't love.
- [138:13]
Pat McAfee
What I'm doing. What do you want me to do, bro? Take then Sunday Night Football because we've gotten into the bye week era of this particular NFL season. Early buys for Steelers in Green Bay, especially that Steelers Team, older team, long road here into the playoffs. If they want to make a run, that's going to be a very long one. And then the Bears come off their best week. They have a buy. Will they be able to continue? The Falcons, obviously they were on in the trenches. I think their offensive line, maybe they're finding it. And then Jordan Love, obviously fresh out of a tie, getting a chance to go ahead and sleep on that for an entire week. Patriots, Bills, historically great games, right, Connor, if I'm not mistaken.
- [138:54]
Boston Conner
Yeah, for the most part they have been very good. Even when Mac Jones and the Pats are struggling, they still gave the Bills problems.
- [139:01]
Pat McAfee
And you know Josh Allen is wearing the super snow game. Yep.
- [139:05]
Boston Conner
Yeah, he's got his NFL rivalry Blizzard jersey on.
- [139:09]
Pat McAfee
And we would like to tell the NFL we like their rivalry jerseys. We appreciate we, we like this genre of throwbacks. We think they did a Great job. From 9:30am on NFL Network, we're going to have NFL football all the way through. Josh Allen in some sick snow tarps taking on New England on Sunday Night Football. There's been a lot of chatter about not a lot of notable games. It's going to start great, it's going to end great. And it's going to be Buffalo Bills winning by less than eight and a half points. Give me the New England Patriots and Drake May doing his thing on the biggest stage of the day. Now, Connor, there's been a lot of graphics you've been posting. Have you been leaving graphics out that I haven't seen about Drake May? Everything is up and to the right for this guy.
- [139:52]
Boston Conner
Yeah, actually haven't been leaving graphics out. That was just one that I picked. Most graphics that he's on, he's in that, you know, Q1, top right. It is wild. I don't know how it happened, but Drake May is unbelievable. I think the, I don't know, the fodder around the Patriots is a little too hot right now. Feels as though this might be a comeback to earth game. But also a hey, we are not in the Bills, you know, category just yet. But if they keep it close, you know, a competitive game, maybe Diggs scores a touchdown, we get a cool little side eye to Josh Allen like we did last year when Diggs was in Houston. So I don't know. I think it's going to be close. But yeah, it feels as though the Bills will still get it done. They just always find a way.
- [140:36]
Pat McAfee
Ty Drake, Drake made better than Jordan. Love already. Is that what people were saying?
- [140:40]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, you Know right now, some of the stats bear that out. But you know, Drake May still, we gotta see him do it in the playoffs. You know, Jordan Love, people forget does have a playoff win under his belt. On the road, no less. So. But listen, Drake, Drake May's a ball player. He's another one of those guys. Every Sunday it seems like he does three to four things where it's just like, holy, I didn't know this guy could do that. He's been great so far.
- [141:05]
Pat McAfee
Far. Who do you like, Gumps?
- [141:07]
Gumpy
I love the Patriots. Stefan Diggs, first time back in Buffalo since he was traded as well.
- [141:12]
Pat McAfee
I love that. Is eight and a half the most I can get with the Patriots?
- [141:15]
AP Tone
Yes, it is.
- [141:16]
Pat McAfee
AJ Are you riding with us? What's your reasoning?
- [141:19]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I, I think the Bills are going to the super bowl, but I'm get. I'm taking New England here to cover. So, yeah, give me the Patriots.
- [141:26]
Pat McAfee
Bills have been like the Chiefs from yesteryear. Not covering, but winning. Yeah. Yeah, we've been losing money on this. Buffalo Bills sportsbooks know that we all love the Buffalo Bills sportsbooks know that we all love Josh Allen last week, couldn't cover two weeks ago, didn't cover this week. Will they be able to cover? I don't think so. I think they win, though. Like, we all think they win, but we don't think they cover.
- [141:48]
Gumpy
They still can't stop the run. Travion Henderson played more last game too.
- [141:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but there's also, there's also a chance that the Buffalo bills win by 50. I don't know.
- [141:57]
Boston Conner
I don't know if a variable team.
- [142:00]
Gumpy
Was ugly against the Saints.
- [142:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you don't think variable. You don't think variable.
- [142:05]
Boston Conner
Yeah, I just feel like Vrabel is going to have him ready to go. Like, if you do look at those graphs that mean nothing, but still people post and act like they do. Our D line's very good. Like, they do get pressure. They get home, it feels as though like an eight and a half. To your point, the sportsbooks know everyone loves the Bills and they're so good. I mean, the Patriots just scored 42 points in Drake Mania and play in the fourth quarter, like 8 1/2 points doesn't make sense if you're looking at last week's games, but if you're just looking at a game like a mark, you might just say, hey, the Bills are the Bills. They're going to win by two touchdowns, but they'll probably end up winning by like a touchdown or a field goal.
- [142:41]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, it is that time again.
- [142:45]
Gumpy
I might be screwed by the wall.
- [142:51]
Ty Schmidt
There it is.
- [142:51]
Nick Saban
Well.
- [142:52]
Pat McAfee
Oh, there we go. There we go.
- [142:57]
Boston Conner
Yes.
- [142:59]
AJ Hawk
Don't move.
- [142:59]
Pat McAfee
I'll move.
- [143:00]
AJ Hawk
He wears gloves like that.
- [143:02]
Pat McAfee
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- [143:41]
AJ Hawk
Hell yeah. How those 215 tour's going.
- [143:49]
Pat McAfee
On that note, it is. You know, the guy isn't the coach here anymore, but it is nice that we are friends with him. We. We probably overstayed our welcome here. And on that note, big shout out to everybody here at Alabama for allowing us to be a part of this. Big shout out to the entire ESPN production crew that puts us together in a three tunnel. We're very, very thankful. Very, very grateful. It has been a wonderful time thus far here in Teatown. We will try to continue to enjoy our day. Gonna eat all the food we can at Saban's house tonight, please. We're gonna roll tide. We're gonna try to roll tide the out of that house.
- [144:20]
Boston Conner
Jack and die too.
- [144:21]
Pat McAfee
Take a nap.
- [144:22]
AJ Hawk
Take a nap in the guest room if you need to.
- [144:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Little diddy. About Jack and D. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [144:29]
Boston Conner
That guy sucks growing up in the bloody.
- [144:33]
Pat McAfee
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. My bad. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I was outside.
- [144:38]
Boston Conner
Inside voice came outside.
- [144:39]
AJ Hawk
I didn't mean that.
- [144:39]
Boston Conner
I'm sorry.
- [144:40]
Pat McAfee
Now, on that note, that guy could have easily just came out on my side when the rest of the world was attacking me. But instead he decided to take the other team's side. So it will be that guy forever. Yeah, but he does have. He does have great songs.
- [144:53]
Boston Conner
Let's not get no doubt about that.
- [144:56]
Pat McAfee
He does have a few days. Please, aj. We appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. Honestly. Thank you for traveling out there. Talks with table. Great work this week, Tone. Incredible job behind the glass. I appreciate the hell out of you Guys, good work. Foxy, good week. Nick, Bill, Dirty talk, obviously. Big week for talk. Bill 30. Foxy, launch Rushmore this week. Yeah.
- [145:20]
Boston Conner
Yeah.
- [145:20]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations on that.
- [145:21]
Boston Conner
Let's go, boys.
- [145:22]
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah, boys. Congratulations on that, boys. M. Keep kicking ass, brother. There. There's about to be a time where Mitt's about to shine in a big way.
- [145:29]
AP Tone
Yeah, for sure.
- [145:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the mid season's right around the corner. If we can get him to it. If we can get him to it. And he doesn't, you know, stumble getting there. Sure. Y. That boy's good, dude. Go. Yeah. Go, dude. Great work out of Debone, obviously, this week. Debone had a huge week. I appreciate him allowing me the opportunity to showcase how many shoes I have at the Thunderdome. I don't know if you saw the lineup there, AJ.
- [146:06]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah. That's amazing.
- [146:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think it's like 64 or 65 of them. Honestly, I have no idea how those all fit in my office. You know, as I was those out, I was really surprised about how they all fit in the room that I called my office, which wasn't originally supposed to be my office. It's supposed to be like a little off the kitchen type thing, but obviously you got the Halley's up there. You got a lot of bronze. You got some Travis Scott's, you got some Jordan's, obviously. It is. It is quite a collection, I would say, and I'm very thankful for all the people that have sent me shoes. And obviously John Geiger shoes right there, he's writing me a letter. I think if he was. Continue to go down and. And boom, that one right down there at the bottom. I'm stuck here, so. Yeah, I understand. It's. It's hard to get done sometimes. John. John Deere. Jordan's right there. Fourth one down. So it was nice to kind of see how many shoes I had, what I had going on. And it's all because of Deba. So we should be thanking Deba.
- [146:58]
Nick Saban
Attaboy, Bone.
- [147:01]
Pat McAfee
He made a graphic with me and put Monarchs on my feet. And it was a sponsored graphic. It was a sponsored graphic, and I. I got nothing. I got nothing against Monarchs. People that wear Monarchs. More power to you. I like it. But I am a guy that enjoys shoes. Like, my feet are a pretty big part of my life. And now, granted, people have been saying, pat, you put TFPs on your feet, it's like, well, around the house, maybe you put those TFPs on, but I love a nice pair of shoes. So I thought it was egregious what Debone did to me, so I just felt an obligation to showcase to him, like, hey, hey, these are all the shoes you could have put on me. These are all. These are all the things. And to D Bones, credit football guy, offensive lineman Doc Dodge weave his way through. And we're on the other side, so we appreciate D Bone for that. And he stuck up for Cena. To Cody, it was impressive. So it's a huge, huge week for Debone, I think. Huge week for the program. And the September numbers have come out for us on social digital. I guess that's kind of the same, but I guess there is Disney plus and ESPN plus, which doesn't count as social, even though we all kind of put it together. And our linear numbers, we are so incredibly lucky. That's a big number. That's a big number. That's everything. That's ESPN Plus. That's Disney Plus. That's tick tock. That's YouTube. That's X. That's Instagram. And obviously that's linear numbers as well. We have no idea why anybody chooses to watch this, and maybe some. Some people hate watching it, but we appreciate you all so much and hopefully October will only get better. You're the greatest people on Earth for allowing us to do this for a living. We are eternally grateful. We also have a podcast, a college football podcast with Stanford Steve. Episode 3. 3. 3. Episode 3 is about to debut. As we get the hell out of everybody's way here. We hope you have the greatest weekend of your entire Life. Tomorrow morning, 9:00am Eastern, 8:00am Local. We'll be live here in Alabama. Nick Saban will be getting celebrated. Vandy's in the national spotlight, and a weekend of football is going to kick off in spectacular fashion. You're the greatest people on Earth. Never, ever. Forget it. We appreciate you. It's been the dumbest life of all time. And the fact that you all allow us to do that is incredibly kind. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team. On me, AJ Anything.
- [149:15]
AJ Hawk
What's Bruce and AQ said? Have a better one next week.
- [149:21]
Pat McAfee
I mean, plagiarism is certainly a cool thing.
- [149:23]
AJ Hawk
No, no, it's a flattering. You know, also, Gump, don't get. Don't. If you're taking a dump in Saban's house, he'll kick the door down on you.
- [149:30]
AP Tone
It's true.
- [149:31]
AJ Hawk
Don't have it.
- [149:31]
Pat McAfee
Don't do a Jim Mercenary dump in Josh Yeah, exactly.
- [149:35]
Boston Conner
That might be a problem.
- [149:36]
Pat McAfee
All right, have a great weekend, boys. We miss you. We'll see you soon. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Talk about stepping up.
- [149:47]
Dan Orlovsky
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Pat McAfee
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Dan Orlovsky
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- [150:06]
Pat McAfee
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Pat McAfee
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- [150:27]
Nick Saban
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Pat McAfee
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- [150:38]
AJ Hawk
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