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the pride, passion and
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pageantry of college football lives here.
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This is the Paul Feinbaum show, our one podcast.
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This might be college football. Hey, welcome back.
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We did it again.
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We are back for yet another day. Thank you so much for being a part of the program. Big Ten Media Days is underway. We'll talk about that. Already some fireworks. We'll get to that a little bit later in the show. We have a lot to unpack here and there is a lot happening everywhere today, especially in Washington where the Big Ten and the SEC have received language of revisions to the Prepped College Sports Act. If Congress doesn't pass a bill, Tony Petiti said the next solution is striking a compromise with the other leagues over CSC changes. I'm not sure that's quite going to do it. Self governance model has been mentioned. I think most of you know the rigmarole by now. Petiti on the relationship with the sec. I think it would be great if we play each other more since the fans want that. I literally have talked to Greg Sanke more than five times this morning. I have a question for you. You're in the middle of your media days. Why are you talking to Greg Sankey so much? Just wondering. Meanwhile, back home in sweet home, SEC Blake Topmire chiming in. SEC coaches united against the nine game schedule. You know what, sorry about that. We'll talk about that with Blake a little bit later on. Always must see and in chapel, Bill, Michael Bardi the latest to go. Oh, he's on temporary leave. I mean between belichick dating a 24 year old and Bobby Petrino on the staff, who would have had Michael Lombardi going first? Pablo Torre. In addition to Lombardi HR matter, the university is being investigated by the College Sports Commission. Wow, that might be, that might get you a raise the way things are going in college Sports Day. Dan Wetzel joining us. Dan, always good to talk to you. North Carolina never disappoints in the wrong way. Just make some sense out of all this. Okay. Obviously. Okay. We're going to, we're going to see if we can touch back With Dan. We did not Dan apparently. But anyway. Okay, Dan, I think we have you now. I was asking you. I'll ask you the same question. Try to sort out the mess in Chapel Hill.
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The Tar Heels are trying to mute our conversation. Paul, I think that, let's have the CSC investigate that. There is not a lot of positives to be had and it is, it's been quite a run to start this experiment for Bill Belichick. And you know, some of the stuff you could say doesn't really matter. It's his personal life or this or that or hey, they only won four games, but maybe they'll be better this year. They got 70 guys coming in this, that. But when you're hand picked, highest paid general manager in the country, your, your best friend, you brought them in with no college experience, not a lot of experience in maybe working in a college environment or in this kind of environment with HR matters and he is already suspended or on leave. It's a bad look for all of North Carolina and I think it just, it just ramps up the pressure on this season for Belichick. And if you look at this schedule, it's front loaded and it's tough. They can easily start one and three and it just becomes, it's just all going the wrong way for Belichick. I thought there was a chance this would work, but so far nothing has worked.
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And Dan, I realize we are in the public embryonic stage of this investigation and not that I'm really trying to be salacious here, but HR seems to be self explanatory, I think. Do we have any context on what pushed the. Push this into where it is now?
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No, there's nothing out there that is, that describes what the, what the situation is. Not a legal matter as far as we know, or anything like that. So. But look, they don't, there's levels to HR investigations. They don't just, you don't just file a complaint and say, hey, my boss was mean to me and then the boss is immediately suspended.
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There's sort of a preliminary investigation that says is there more of an investigation needed? That's generally how HR would work somewhere. And I am going to surmise that it also works at the University of North Carolina. So there's probably something to this. Again, the last thing North Carolina wanted to do was cause another negative headline, another, you know, another bit of negativity around this football program and suspend, you know, the highest paid general manager in the country. So this team needs a lot of work. They got 70 new guys. You know, Bill. Bill Belichick often repeated the. The mantra of his mentor, Bill Parcells, you are what your record is, and they need to get a good record going to try to put some of this behind them.
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Dan. Not to bounce around, but I will. Tony Petiti, speaking to the media masses today. A lot of conversation about this bill in Congress. And again, it felt like about two weeks ago we were burying this thing. It seems to be flickering a modicum of life today. I realize you don't cover Congress, but you do have a pretty good idea how this works.
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There is some, some optimism that, that some of the, some of the work that's been done. It was kind of dead two days ago when, when Senator Thune basically said it's not going to come to a vote, which was, you know, now going to really push it past the election. And you don't know who's controlling all these brain. Everything gets shaken up. And that's kind of been the problem all along with this, is every time they think they get somewhere, Washington gets involved and there's new senators, new Congress, the whole thing. So there's potentially some movement that is going to make it at least agreeable to the SEC in Big Ten. That does not mean it will pass. It needs to be agreeable to a lot of people. And it's not like every senator is going to do whatever the Big Ten and the SEC want. There's a lot of states that don't have those guys involved. So just, even if Petiti and Sankey say, hey, we now support this, it does not necessarily mean that it's going to get done. So there's a long way to go. I think you do not need to be a big follower of Washington to know that a lot of these massive, you know, spending bills or whatever get done in the middle of the night in the last passable moment, and no one even knows what's in them and they just spend money. And so I would expect a lot of this would be the case, too, but I don't know what's in this bill, but there is definitely optimism inside college athletic administrators that this is not dead. So we'll see what happens.
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Yeah, I'm not trying to say this isn't important. It is important to a lot of people. But right now, John Thune, who is the majority leader, has a fractured party. The President of the United States has been calling him out because there's another bill the president wants passed, and Thune is not budging. So he's under a lot of pressure not, not from Sankey and Petiti, but from the guy that lives around the corner. So I doubt he is flipping on SportsCenter to find out the latest reaction to what we are saying. Let me get to another thing. Petiti said he had again doubled down on the 24 team playoff. You expect him to do that? He's, he's been behind it all. What do you sense out there in the hinterlands? A couple of leagues are behind it. The sec, it really didn't come up much last week in Tampa, but they are the main holdout at the moment.
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Yeah. Let me just say one last thing about the bill, about whatever is in Washington. It's a little disappointing in how Washington works these days. But to me, this is a very nonpartisan issue. There are people who are Republicans, Democrats, Independents, every political organization you got like college football, it's not a partisan thing. And so I really, if there was ever anything they could try to get done that they could all work on, that's important to a lot of people in a lot of places in this country. College football, college basketball, college sports everywhere. And so there's a lot of frustrations that cross party lines. So I, you know, it's a very non Washington. Maybe that's why they're struggling with it, the 2014 playoff. Yeah, look, they're going to keep pushing this thing because they go as long as the SEC is holding out. And I, and I hope they continue
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you know, it's not going to get anywhere. You know, Petiti had a line today that, you know, he's seen a lot of the online polls and some of the surveys that, you know, the public doesn't want it. But I'm pretty sure that people will still watch and they'll fill the stadium. And I would agree with that. Betting against football is a bad bet in this country. More football generally wins out. But I go back to an old phrase, you know, pigs get, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. And there's a, there's a tipping point in everything. And when you tilt a season too far towards a playoff and away from the regular season, the great regular season that college football has, it's very, very dangerous. And I don't know that that's, everyone's making short term decisions trying to get one more guy into a playoff and not considering the overall factor. And I continue to urge people in college athletics to take pause at trying to expand this thing too much.
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Dan, always great. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Dan Wetzel, Nobody better to talk about this. And thank you. And again, we're watching the Senate situation because it's fluid. We'll keep up with that all afternoon long. And I want to say this to the audience. I'm well aware college football season is here. I'm equally well aware that when we start talking about politics and Senate bills, a lot of you pull out a coffee cup to try to stay awake. I'm with you, but it is important. We're not going to try to shove it down your throat, but we just want to let you know what is going on. We'll also take your phone calls today. We'll also take a number of other guests who will be dropping by. So a lot to deal with here on a still Tuesday. I think it is on a Tuesday afternoon.
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You're listening to the Paul Feinbomb show podcast happening out there. And Ohio State is adding a jersey patch of Chase bank in a deal worth $17 million. That's. That's serious moolah there. The value is higher than some NBA jersey patch deals. OSU's deal also includes nil opportunity for the student athletes. Meanwhile, Notre Dame has partnered with SoFi as the official. By the way, Notre Dame until the early 70s, I believe, would not even go to a bowl game. Now they're making money off a jersey patch. I realize it's 50 years, but it's just still pretty unbelievable to think about. But it's 2026. Meanwhile, Marco Casa Grande waving the banner for the sec. What is that weakness? We'll talk to. What do they call him? The Big Guy. The big. What's his nickname? Danny Big House. I'll get. I got. I need to brush up on my nicknames. For sports rider. Blake Topmeyer is just, to me, the best sports writer out there. So he needs no introduction. And Brett Bielema can't walk into media days without sticking something in his mouth. I'm not talking about food, I'm talking about his foot. I know Sankey has got to protect the SEC and they kind of want to live in 2005 forever, but I think the forward thinking of where we are in college football is an awesome thing. You know, I don't want to do the math on that big, big brat. You failed in the sec. We all know that. You couldn't beat anyone. You got. You got fired at midfield at Arkansas after losing, I think it was to LSU since 2005. And somebody please check my math. But I believe the SEC has won 13 national championships. I mean, it's one thing to say 2022, but Brett, I mean, I don't know. I know you went to Iowa to fine school, but you obviously must have missed mathematics. Anyway, why don't we go to calls here and 855-242-77285 is a number. And John starts it off from Louisville. Hey, John.
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Good afternoon, Paul. And you know, in fairness to Bill Belichick's sugar baby, Jordan Hudson, she is actually 25, so there's only a 49 year difference. 50 years makes it sound transactional, don't you agree?
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Yeah. My apologies for getting that wrong.
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Hey, by the way, Paul, has the head of household decided what room in your home to grace the prized Ric Flair signed portrait or rethinking ebay?
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Yeah, you know, again, you know, we have a new house, so we're still putting things together. I got it Sunday, John. It immediately went downstairs to the so called basement. And I can assure you it is. It is not. I mean, there are no Van Goghs and Renoirs and, and Rembrandts down there with it. It's. It's on the floor next to a
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couple of empty boxes and rats, which is appropriate. So, Paul.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't like going down there, but it's not getting prime, prime, prime, prime product placement in the fine bomb house.
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I hear you, DePaul. Let me ask you, what big games early in the season do you most want to see and why? And let me set the table for you. Ohio State, with both teams already destined for a CFP birthday and the future CFP finalists are in jeopardy on this game, I think. And Julian Sain was a Heisman trophy finalist and Manning might be this year. And Ohio State lost Four starting defensive starters. What do you see in that first game?
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Yeah, I tell you what. And it's primarily because we're doing a lot of Big Ten stuff this week, as you can imagine. And I think that second week of the season is really going to answer all these, hey, who has the best conference questions? Because you have probably two of the best teams playing in Austin. And I think you also have two really interesting teams playing in Ann Arbor. If the Big Ten were to get those two wins, I think it makes it even more complex and the Brett Bielemas of the world have more Runway to run their mouth.
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Well, I think the Oklahoma at Michigan is even more important because I think it's a must win game if either team wants to make the cfp because both have maybe the toughest schedules. You got Michigan still playing Ohio State, Indiana and Oregon. And Oklahoma has to meet Texas, Georgia and Texas A and M. I think that's an elimination game for CFP for one of those teams. You agree?
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Yeah, I agree. And John, you may have heard me say this last week. I thought the biggest surprise I had on media days on Monday a week ago was the enthusiasm and the buzz about how good Oklahoma was going to be. And then when the poll came out, it seemed like I was the only one buying it. And that's why I agree with you. I mean, that is such a critical. I, I think Michigan has improved its situation so much they have an infinitely better coach Whittingham over Sharon Moore. I mean, seriously, Sharon Moore was laughable. He got the job just by pure luck. Because Harbaugh walked out, they were trying to preserve recruiting. He looked the part. We all know he wasn't. Underwood needs a lot of improvement, but he's capable. So I think that's a massive game for Michigan.
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Keep up the great monologues, Paul. I really enjoy them.
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Thank you very much. Fred in Seabus is up next. Hey, Fred.
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Hey, Paul. I was just going to ask you, with Ohio State announcing that the past logo for their uniforms this year and from Chase bank and I just read Notre Dame might have SOPIs sponsoring 20 million from them. Will that change college football in any way?
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No, I just think, Fred, you go out and get money where you can and that's a lot of money. And you know, I give Ross Bjork credit for going out and making a smart deal. I mean Chase is high respected company in New York, banks all across the the country, if not the world. And Sofi, I mean, by the way, I mean, Sofi's name is on the stadium in la. I mean, these are important sponsorships and, you know, I don't know where every individual school is, but if you can get 18 to 20 million dollars on a jersey patch, that's significant bread.
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Thank you, Paul.
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Thank you, Fred. I really do appreciate your phone call. Let's continue with more. We'll continue with more of the program in just a minute. Fast start. We'll keep you updated on all the things going on right now. Brett Bielema, Open Mouth. We'll talk more about that. More of your phone calls. More after this.
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Yes, Paul, how are you doing today?
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Very well.
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Yes, I wanted to call back and redeem myself from yesterday because I don't want to. I didn't want to go down as the worst caller in Fine Bomb history. I think that goes to Harvey Up. Harvey Updike, by the way. So.
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By the way, you're right about that, right?
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Yes, I heard what you said.
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First of all, Brett Bielema is absolutely irrelevant. And so we're just going to move on from him. And so I heard what you said about the 2014 playoff and I agree with you. It would be an absolute disaster. And I think the playoff is turning into a. In an episode.
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Yeah. I don't know, Trey. For some reason, Travis, I lost your call, but we'll see if we can undo that. Let me check in with Trey, who is up next. Hey, Trey.
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Hey, Paul. You think it's time for Nick Saban to get the Mercedes Benz logos on Alabama jersey? Is that coming next, Paul?
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You know, I don't think there's any doubt. Alabama could. Could make a pretty good penny for some sponsorship.
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I would think so too. Paul. I want to. I want to take a little different take on DeBoer's interview and over the at the media days. And I want your opinion and tell me what you think. Is that fair enough?
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That's always been fair with me.
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You know, when he gets up there, he's going to be the most scrutinized coach that's up there and he's constantly going to be care compared.
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Hey, hey, hold on. Just. Trey, I don't mean to interrupt. First of all, that's not even accurate. Lane Kiffin is easily the most scrutinized coach. Immediate days. Well, Caitlin Deborah is not even close.
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Well, I'm talking about when we get to talking about his personality. And you know, his personality is not even close to Saban's. You know, Saban got up there and he joked around and he told jokes with the crowd. And the boy's just totally opposite of a Saban.
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He.
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He's straight to the point. He doesn't elaborate on his answers.
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You ask him a question. That's just what he does. But I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong here sitting there with Nick Saban and being questioned by Nick Saban. He's not going to disagree with Nick Saban, Paul, whether he wants to or not, he's just not. Because if he disagrees with him and he's wrong, he's going to be scrutinizing even more. And I don't like his interviews either. But you know what the biggest part about that, Paul, is he coaches that way. He don't get excited or say much or anything on the sideline. And I think that's just his personality. And I think that's hard for us Alabama fans to accept because of what kind of personality that Nick Saban had. What do you think about that, Paul?
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Well, first of all, his interchanges with Saban are not being scrutinized. Everybody understands. I've told the story. Trey. Two years ago, when Saban made his first appearance at media days, we were sitting there on some primetime ESPN show and I, I started rambling on. I kind of looked at Saban through my peripheral vision and I could realize he was like, shaking his head, like, what does this guy know? And the point is the next couple of questions. I just engaged Saban because I'm not about to give an opinion on Alabama football with Nick Saban sitting next to me when he knows the roster a hundred times better than I do. So, DeBoer, it's not those interviews that concern me. It's just when he starts talking about national championships, it's awkward. It seems like he's just not comfortable in embracing that. And that's for a guy who's won national championships, who's played for national championships. It's just that level of engagement that fans want to see. Where, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not asking him to bang, bang the table, but just quit giving us the I know what I signed up for nonsense.
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Why do you think it's so hard for him to talk? I mean, what. I just, I don't think he used to be that way. Why is it so hard for. For him to talk about that at Alabama? Is he afraid of failure and being scrutinized by the fans? Is that what it is? I mean.
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Well, I do think. Try. I do think the Saban factor is worth considering. And I've covered a lot of these things. You've seen a lot of these things. And as long as Nick Saban is around and has a very high perch in the media, it makes it more difficult for DeBoer because he's always there.
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Yeah, but.
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But I would like. I would like somebody to show me a picture of Nick Saban interfere. Nick Saban is not going to come anywhere near Alabama practices. I don't. I personally, I don't think so believe this. Just my opinion here. I don't think Nick Saban really likes going to the games at all, but I think he does it for his wife. She likes going. So he goes. The Nick Saban that I felt like, I feel like I've known over the last 25 years would rather be home watching the game and charting it on his, on his yellow pad as opposed to sitting there having to take selfies.
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And I don't think that their, their relationship is as good as we they try to make it out to be on tv. And that's just my opinion. But anyway, I appreciate you taking my call and you have a great day.
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Paul.
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Well, hey, Trey, thanks for the call, by the way. There's no way it could be in some interview last week. Maybe I didn't see everything Saban, you know, talked about Nick Sheridan saying, I'd like to see, you know, play more, man. Or I mean, I don't even, I'm not even sure I remember what he said. But nobody wants that. I've been around coaches, obviously, a long time. Nobody wants the other guy even, even being gentle in the critique. So, yeah, I mean, I think if you put truth serum in Kayewin deboer, he would be more than happy to know that Nick Saban is not going to be on TV talking about his program. He's not going to be around the pro, he's not going to be in Tuscaloosa, and he can escape that. That's always difficult. And, but that has nothing to do with why Kaylen DeBoer has a personality like he did. That's who he is. We'll take a short break, more of your phone calls right after this. You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum show podcast bus afternoon here. We appreciate all you dropping in and let's check in with George, who is up up next in Florida. Hello, George.
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Hey, Paul, Listen, I'm in Florida, but long time Bloomington, Indiana boy went to school there and I'm so proud of the Hoosiers, but my wife was from Louisiana. First time I went to an LSU game, I saw what real football was back then and I was a suffering fan. But the reason I'm calling is, first of all, there could be an argument about which is the best college football conference, but there's no argument on who's the best tv, SEC or Big Ten. And you're at. Paul, I listen to you every afternoon. And the reason I called is thank you very much. I am a. You're welcome. I'm a big proponent of staying with 12. Maybe 60 would be. But here's what I want to do. Why can't we, why can't the SEC commissioner and the big Tech commissioner say, okay, we're going to make a change? What we're going to do is we're going to keep it at 12, but it should be the top 12 teams that would have brought in Notre Dame and Texas last year. That's just my assumption. And then the best team would have won. I mean, no offense, but we don't need Tulane in that game, right? Or in that group.
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Yeah, well, let me make it. Let me say something, George. We don't need Tulane in that group, nor do we need the group of five team, whoever that was at Liberty. I don't even remember anymore. But that's how the system was set up. It was set up that way to avoid antitrust. It's going to change over time, but it's convoluted. But let's remember a couple years ago, Sankey and a couple other people were on a committee that recommended the, the, the 12 team playoff. And you had commissioners from, I believe, the big, the ACC and other leagues who fought it. So you had to get in there and make compromises so we could get it off the ground.
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Okay. Well, you know, I was like you.
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I went to law school, but I didn't know that was an antitrust issue.
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That's interesting.
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I thought, you know.
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Well, it's not, George. I can assure you it wouldn't be. But I think there's a concern that if everyone isn't included, you'll start getting monopolistic claims. I would love to fight that case and I'd love to have you sitting next to me, but that's the way college. College leaders like to avoid even the threat of litigation. And I think they were concerned that if they shut out these smaller leagues, I. Yeah, I'd love to hear you explain how they could have made a claim. But they were. There was some concern about that, maybe collusion. I don't know what. I don't know what they were concerned about.
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Well, and you can. You know how you, you can always make a lawsuit out of anything that may fly and it may not. But back to the college. I love to talk sports and you know what? Tell Leds someday. I'd love to talk to him. I, I did a lot of criminal defense work in my time and worked for a lot of organizations that coming out of incarceration. But back to the college football. This year, I'm not very confident about my Hoosiers. I don't know why. And I think Texas is it.
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George, let's talk again soon. Really enjoyed the conversation. How about William in Fort Worth, Texas? Hello, William.
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Hey, Paul. Do you think Texas can win the
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national championship this year?
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William, I think they're. They're in a really good spot. I think they could get there. I'm not willing to say they could win it all yet, but with the team and the talent that they have, there simply would be no reason why they could not make a serious, serious run. Thank you, William, for the call. G. And there's the schedule. G is up next in Atlanta. Hello, G. Go right ahead. G hung up. Sometimes that happens, by the way, you hang up on yourself because you cannot wait to get on the air. Bobby is in Texas next. Hey, Bobby.
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Hey, just curious, Paul, since this past year is we're done with it and we're starting this third year of Oklahoma and Texas being in the sec, I was just curious, like, how they have done compared to, let's say, Missouri, Texas A and M or and the rest of the conference in the way of, you know, SEC titles, whatever, you know, just overall how they've done both of them. And I'll hang up and listen.
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Yeah, I think it's been a great. I mean, that's one of my favorite games every year. Hey, thank you for the call. I think I'll try to squeeze G in here before we go. Hey, G.
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Hey, Paul.
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Thanks for taking my call. Glad to hear your voice again. Happy belated birthday. Also, Paul, what would it take for the University of Georgia to host the trophy up in January on defense and offense? What you think position groups on those particular sides of the ball need to do better than what they did last year? And besides having a better offense coordinator calling played on a consistent basis, what do you think we need to host that trophy again?
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Well, I think on a defensive side, I think there's got to be a level of recklessness that there hasn't been. Listen, I don't want to go back to 21, but that's what a Georgia defense looks like in my opinion. Offensively have to be more. You just can't go through what we saw at the end of the Ole Miss game. And you know, the easiest thing in the world is say, well, that was Mike Bobo's fault. Come on, those plays were disgraceful. Let's quit apologizing for him. It's his fault. Blake Topmire is next.
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