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Hey, welcome back. Second hour of the program is live and we continue to take more of your phone calls. And Paul is up next in Sacramento. Hey Paul.
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Hey, what's up? I just came back from Half Moon Bay. Guys, I gotta tell you something. Who Southern boys, Northern California weather is the best ever. There's Nothing better. Beautiful 90 degrees and then 50 degrees at night. It's awesome. You other thing is Helen, Deborah, I'm a little worried how many losses this is for you, Paul. How many losses is it gonna take for him to go? Bye bye.
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Hey Paul, before I answer that question, I have wanted for years to go to Half Moon Bay. Is it worth it?
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Yeah, it's awesome. Sam's Chowder House. We had the best chowder ever. We had the best calamari ever. It's awesome. It's just okay from. I'm in Rockland, so I drive two hours and I'm at the beach. I go east. I mean Lake Tahoe in an hour and a half. This is Dodge country.
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Okay, I will definitely check it out. There's not a number on DeBoer right now. I think he's probably a lot safer then he appears. And the reason is economics. Alabama can't afford to buy him out right now unless something cataclysmic occurs. There are situations that money is never the problem. But I think Alabama is a long way from that.
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Hey Paul, have you been to Lake Tahoe?
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No, I haven't.
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Gotta go eight eighth wonder of the world.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Now I thought about what the weather. I ended up doing the east coast this, this July. But I am, I'm primed for for a west coast trip next year. Thanks so much for the call. Really do appreciate it. Thank you very much. Dan is up next in North Carolina.
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Hi Paul. You're actually the only person I would trust in trying to explain what I'm about to ask. And that's the United States Senate bringing up a cap to save college Football, presumably, whether the SEC and the Big Tenet have not read or have agreed that the revised content is something they could vote upon. I think you mentioned in your opening that there's more money has already been spent or allocated than what the revision some $48 million proposed is supposed to benefit. And my question to you is, what is the intention here? Is the intention that they're trying to save students or athletes from moving from one place to another? Less is it to finance the school's ability to pay them? Just exactly what is the cap supposed to do on behalf of saving college football? I listen to you,
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Dan. I will tell you, I have never bought into this congressional bill and I still don't because Congress moves the goalposts more than any group of people. The only thing I've ever thought was worthy of Congress was a singular antitrust exemption that would protect college football from these nuisance lawsuits. But I'm not even sure in the hundreds of millions of dollars that have been spent lobbying this bill that that even completely answers that question. I am lost. I am lost in the maze of Washington, D.C. on this one. And I know I didn't answer your question because I can't believe it's come down to something that is bad for the game and not enforceable.
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In my opinion, that is exactly where I'm coming from on this. I mean, after all of the things that have been proposed, the last thing in the world I was thinking about was a cap gap on spending. They're all spending money like drunken sailors out there. And I think Congress is going to do something about stopping that. I don't see it, but I appreciate you trying to answer it for me.
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Yeah. I mean, Dan, how is Congress? So let's say there's a cap at whatever the number is, $48.3 million, and LSU spends $70 million on their roster. Like, who's going to come get them?
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Right. That's, that's.
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I mean, there are no, I mean, there, there are barely any checks and balances right now between branches. And I mean, that's the whole purpose of the, you know, the executive branch. You know, keeping checks on the executive branch, but there's no such thing anymore. So, I mean, again, I don't know. If it passes, then let's see where we are. If it doesn't pass, it won't pass. Steven Means joins us now. He's at Big Ten Media Days where Ohio State has just wrapped up, and they are certainly the talk of Media Days with Julian Sahan and Jeremiah Smith. And a stacked roster, a very difficult schedule. Steven, thank you. Appreciate it. I know it's been busy there. Tell us what the day has been like, especially from an Ohio State perspective.
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Yeah, I think obviously Julian Sam may be a little bit more tame, but I think Jeremiah Smith coming out of his shell a little bit. I was asking him a little bit about the Heisman Trophy and like his, he wants to be a Heisman Trophy finalist. In fact, he was almost challenging voters about the idea of looking at the award in totality and maybe giving it more to the best player of the country and not just turning it into a quarterback award. While from a Ryan Day perspective, I think what we heard a lot from Ryan Day today was a lot of things that were echoing with Tony Fatitti was saying Yesterday about the 12 team playoff, maybe going to 2014 playoffs, the value of conference championship games and a lot of that stuff. So I think from Dave's perspective, maybe more big picture while his best player kind of putting himself out there ahead of time and saying, listen, I want to be in the conversation for our Eisen Trophy win.
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Talking to Steven means Stephen. I want to go back to something about Jeremiah Smith. We all know Julian Sajan went to Alabama and then left. A number of other players have come and gone. But tell us some of the things that Jeremiah Smith said today, because I had not heard this one before, that he wanted to play at Alabama.
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Yeah, he got asked a question about the fact that the Big Ten schools are maybe getting a little bit more involved with teams in the sec, school players in the sec, players in the SEC country. And he just kind of admitted to us, his point blank, that, yeah, his dream school growing up was to go to Alabama. He wanted to play for Nick Saban, but he felt like they'd never really recruited him. Now, granted, given what's happened with Nick Saban at the time, that Jeremiah Smith would have gotten to college, maybe his career goes the same way as Julian sand goes, where he gets there. He's there for a month and ends up transferring to Ohio State. But apparently Alabama missed out on an opportunity to get the best player in college football.
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I mean, that is. That's really almost amazing because, I mean, it's not like his high school recruiting went under the radar screen, did it?
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No, he was the number one player in the country, the number one wide receiver. And I think if you're an Alabama fan and you're hearing that, you're thinking about a world where what if you would have had Jeremiah Smith on one side when Ryan Williams is on the other side. How much better would maybe some of these seasons had gone over the last couple of years, Especially if, let's just say Nick Saban doesn't decide to call it quits after 2023. And now you have a world where your passing game is Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams with Julian Zan throwing to him. I mean, that's. I think Jeremiah Smith created a big what if in Tuscaloosa history just by simply saying that J Alabama was his dream school at one point.
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That is among the most shocking things I've heard today. Let's dig a little deeper on Ohio State. Everybody likes them and it's hard to find fault except for this at Texas, at Iowa, at Indiana, at Southern California, Oregon, Nebraska and Michigan. I mean, there's a, there's a lot of choice games there this year. What about it?
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Yeah, I think the last two years, and JJ even said this today, I wouldn't necessarily call it a cupcake schedule, but I think because of maybe what some teams turned into over the last two years, Ohio State hasn't really been challenged much in regular season. In 2024, their only challenging games were the Oregon game because that was one of the best teams in the country, and then the Michigan team. And that's because you had lost three straight at the time and they lost both of those games. Now, it didn't end up mattering because they won a national championship. So that's that. And then you look at last year's schedule. They had Texas to open the season. That was a challenging game. You maybe thought the Penn State game would be a challenging game, but Penn State didn't end up being what maybe people thought they were going to be. And so there was an element last year where it felt like Ohio State was operating in cruise control. And then by the time they got on the field with some teams who could look them in the eye, we see what happened against Indiana, we see what happened against Miami. They're not going to be able to do that this year. They're not going to be able to get through the season and have their problems, not look them in the face until December. You got Texas the second week of the year. You have to go to Iowa. You've got to play USC on the road with a Lincoln Riley team who is very, very confident. At least that's the way he talked on Tuesday during Big Ten media days. You've got Oregon on your schedule. Michigan is the Michigan game. There's enough games on the schedule this year where this team is going to be tested. And so if they get through this, we're going to be talking about a College Football Playoff team in Ohio State who has truly been battle tested for the first time in a couple of years. Or you're talking about a potential floor of a 9 and 3 team and we're having conversations about whether the 9 and 3 team belongs in the College Football Playoff at all.
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Stephen, just away from the Buckeyes and I know that's a team you cover being around media days, hearing all the conversations going on and I know there's so much where I live back and forth about the big 10 sec, but just your what some of your takeaways, especially about something Petiti said this week that he would like to see these two schools play each other more. That's not easy to do.
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I think Petiti is saying all the right things while at the same time waiting for structure, waiting for clarity before the Big Ten makes any more moves. Obviously the SEC is going to nine conference games this year, which a lot of Big Ten teams have been vocal about wanting to see and they got that. But then the SEC took it a step further obviously and went to you also have to play a non con game against a team who's from another powerful conference or Notre Dame. The Big Ten does not have that as a mandate in their conference. I asked TD about that on Tuesday and he immediately went back into like we're not essentially we are not having these types of conversations until we get clarity in the Sport. The Big Ten has been firm and want the 2014 playoffs. They've maybe tweaked some things in their ideas of that obviously at this point. But it's I think Petiti would love to live in a world where, let's just say hypothetically we had like a Big Ten SEC challenge where every year an SEC team and a Big Ten team are playing each other and it's multiple. But the Big Ten doesn't want to add anything else to its play until they get clarity. Whether it's the bill that's currently in Congress or anything else around the sport. Until they're structured, the Big Ten doesn't want to move. And I think Tony Petiti made that abundantly clear with how he spoke on Tuesday and every coach who has spoken since then seems to be talking in alignment with that
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great stuff. Stephen Means covers the Buckeyes from of course, Cleveland. Your phone calls continue here. We have we've been three guests and about an hour in change and other guests a little bit later on so we've got a pretty big Runway here to get your phone calls on and we'll do that coming up next.
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And welcome back. Great to have all of you with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. James is up next.
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Hey, yeah, I called yesterday about Auburn and you said he was optimistic about their quarterback now playing and all. Yeah, they didn't do that good down Florida.
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Yeah. Hey, James, thanks for the call. You know, they've got a big game against Florida early in the season. A lot of conversation about those two coaches considering one was supposed to go to Auburn and ended up at Florida. Darrell is up next. Good afternoon, Darrell.
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Good afternoon, Paul. Thanks for taking my call. Scott Rabelais had an interesting article this morning and he ranked 16 coaches and how they stacked up in the SEC from one to 16. He had Kirby Smart ranked number one at Georgia with a record of 117 and 21. And he also did a hot seat rating by each coach. Kirby had a hot seat rating of zero. Lane Kiffin's number two with a record of 116. At 53, he has a hot seat rating of one. Now he said he ranked these people best on based on achievements and expectations. And he said it's not a scientific poll by any means. Steve Sarkeesian is ranked number three with a record of 94 and 55 and he's got a hot seat rating of three. I'll go over the top five with you. Caleb Dubois ranked number four with a record of 57 and 17. His hot seat rating is four. Mike Elko from Texas A and M's number five with a record 35 and 16. His hot seat rating is two. Kind of interesting. And it goes down the number. Let's just go to number 11. Josh Hypo from Tennessee, 73 and 28 overall record. His hot seat rating is 5. Shane Beamer from South Carolina, career record 33 and 30. Guess what his hot seat rating is, Paul? You can't guess.
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Pretty high, Ken.
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Jeff Levy from Mississippi state record was 7 and 18. His hot seat rating is 8. Well, Will Stein is ranked number 16 with a career record of 0 and 0. His hot seat rating is 0. Anybody else you want to know about, Paul? Anybody comes across your mind that I want to know?
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Darryl? I think I am about as up to date as I need to be.
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That's too long. That's too long a call. Going over nothing.
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Darrell, thank you. Yeah, if you'd had me on that hot seat rating, I'd be a little more nervous. Thank you for the call. Grayson is in Missouri and you are next up.
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Hey Paul, how's it going?
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Thank you.
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Thank you for taking my call. I just have a quick question about how important is it to recruit Kansas City and St. Louis for coach Drink. And then also if we played Alabama this season, how do you think that would go?
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Well, Grayson, first of all. Yeah, you better be able to recruit your two biggest markets in the state even though they are a long way from one another. Thanks for the call. I would like, I would take Alabama over Missouri. I thought Missouri had one of its best shots at Alabama last year. Came down to about a one possession game in Columbia and they couldn't get it done. I mean I, I will believe Missouri can beat a good team when I see it. Until then I'll just keep, I'll keep. I'll keep dreaming. Thank you for the call. Tim is in Arkansas. Good afternoon.
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Well, hey Paul, that was good, Good to hear you. Last week during the media days I was in front of the TV. Made sure to be in front of the TV at 9:30 Thursday morning just so I could listen to Silverfield's presentation. Oh, once again you may not remember, I'm a Hall fan now. He did his presentation to Aunt and I don't know, to me they were uninforming, uninteresting. Above all, I think uninspiring. And I was one. But the, the other thing is myself and a lot of people consider you the, the media voice of the sec. And here's the other part of it. Why did you not interview him?
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Well, Tim, I'll tell you why we didn't interview him. We have two. The SEC network has basically a morning session and an afternoon session. The morning session on the SEC network broadcast, the morning broadcast, the morning people at the podium and then usually they come by and do a sit down. We do the afternoon and he was on the morning, so we never really intersected in the morning time. I was doing the ESPN shows like get up and First Take. So I never even. I never even saw Ryan Silverfield on the day he was there. What day was he there? Wednesday. We had. We had Coach Leon. Who else do we have on that day? We had a couple of coaches on, so we got the opposite. So my point is that the morning, like Kiffin was in the morning, we don't. We talk to Sarkeesian, just same way we do it every year.
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Well, did you, did you watch his presentation? And speaking of that, no.
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Let me explain. And I don't mean it's not a matter of not not wanting to watch it, but I am on television at the exact same time that he is on television, except he's on this channel and I was on espn. So we never really. I mean, that doesn't mean I didn't see some of the other coaches, but I was primarily paying attention in the morning to the coaches I would be talking about on the ESPN shows.
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Well, what I was trying to say, though, I saw Sarkeesian's presentation in Silverfield and if I was a donator, Sarkeesian would get the money. Do you hear what I'm saying there?
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Well, listen, I'll defer to you, Tim. I didn't. I never saw a clip of Silverfield, never saw him live. But I will tell you this, you only get one chance to make that impression. I'll spare you the cliche. Take advantage of it. There are highly paid people that work for the University of Arkansas whose job it is to prepare him for that moment. If he chooses not to listen to them or do what they tell, then that's on him. It all starts at the top of the food chain. And the top of the Arkansas food chain is Hunter Euro check. We'll take a short break. We are coming back with more right after this.
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You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum Show Podcast.
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And welcome back. Sparky is up next from Alabama. Hello, Sparks.
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Hey, Paul. Misty. Math. Hey, I want to shout out to Morgan county inmates there. One of them called me the other day and said he heard me on there. Auburn fan named Biscuit. Imagine that. And old school. He probably missed.
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Now, Sparks, hold on, hold on a second. Are you saying that the inmates are listening to the show?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got cable. They didn't have no cable when I was in there. Remember I rode off top bunk, thought I was gonna go to the hospital, watch Alabama orbit on ESPN in 91. But it didn't work out that way. Something.
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I'm glad, you know, I'm really. Listen, I'm. I'm glad to know that we are the. The show of choice in. In. In prison.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, Paul, I think I know the answer to you.
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I mean, we should be.
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Yeah, yeah, I think I know the answer to this, Paul, but I know before the expansion in 92 in Arkansas and South Carolina, the SEC split everything. Even if you go to a bowl game or NCAA tournament or anything, they all split the money. I bet they don't do that no more, do they?
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Well, it's a little different. Everybody gets an equal share. But depending if you go to the cfp, you Get a. You get a big chunk of that.
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Yeah. Okay, that's good. Anyway. All right. That work. Take it easy. Roll Tide.
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Thank you. You know, I bring this up all the time, but. Because I don't. I mean, I've been to some prisons before on various tours, and it always seems like the prisoners know who we are. But I made this argument once before and I'm going to do it again, I think. Don't you? How great do you think this show would be a couple of times a year live from a prison? Can you imagine? Think about that. Take, like, do a forum and just, you know, the hot mic open mic night at Draper Prison. Someone is missing an opportunity here. I see this as a primetime special. Fine. Bomb live from. I mean, we can. We can do the prisons. He's talking about a prison in Alabama. We could do the prisons of the sec. Vine bomb. Live from the Huntsville, Texas prison week of the Oklahoma Texas game. Slammer. Sounds like a guy that's been to prison with a name like that. Hey, Slammer.
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Oh, come on, Paul. If I'd been to prison, I took Stephen A. Smith with me. How you doing? Long time no talk.
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Good to hear from you.
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What about it? Yeah, I got my wife slave driving, Paul. I'm slaving her. She may go to prison next if she don't start painting a little faster.
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Ooh,
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You may even have a stamp tramp back there. It says clamor you. You never know until you come down here. Paul, how's things been rolling with you and the wife? Rolling with you? I don't hear Randy no more. Faded away.
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Well, there's a reason why you don't hear Randy. He retired. Randy retired.
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He rode off into the sunset. You're not gonna do that, Paul. I'm not gonna let you do that. So. So when are you coming together? You know. You know we're getting a. You. You know we're getting a. A Christian academy down here, don't you?
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No.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's probably not a good idea for me to broadcast it, but it's coming soon. They're talking about it, building one down here. You're gonna have to come down here and do a show down here for us and everything.
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Okay. Love to Stephen along tonight.
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You need to come. I've been waiting on you for about five years now. When's the last time that you heard Stephen a. About Kaylin DeBoer? About Kaylin not really seeming interested in winning a championship. And it kind of brought me to Concern. What about you, Paul? Does that kind of concern you a little bit?
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Yeah. No, I thought he made some very good points last week. And it doesn't mean Debore isn't a good coach and doesn't mean he won't be successful.
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How do you think Ryan Coleman Williams is going to do this year?
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Well, I think. I don't think he can really do any worse than last year's slammer, so I'm pretty upbeat on him. Hey, great to hear from you. I'll see you at Pruitt's one of these days. And Gaston Frank is up next in Alabama. Hey, Frank.
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Hey. Paul Yalls talking a while ago about the prisons. Let me tell you, Alabama prisons. Yeah, I don't know cable in it now, but the work releases do. I guarantee you every work release in Alabama right now has their station turned to you. Everywhere. Because there's two, there's two rooms, movie room.
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Okay, now, now, Frank, help me understand something. So prisons, if you're in, if you're in like a state prison, is, is there a TV in, in the. What's that? Okay, Frank, do me a favor. Can you possibly turn that TV down for a second? I want to ask you a question.
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Yes, I'm going outside. I could roll outside real quick.
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Okay, so when you're. You said you were, you. You were in a state facility, is that right?
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Several different state prisons. Draper. And I was okay for a little while. That's West Jefferson down in Bessford. You know what I'm talking about. 100 warriors.
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I have, I have been to West Jefferson. I have been to West Jefferson prison before to interview somebody. That is a, that's a well known prison there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, it's a tough place. I was. They asked me if I would if I felt okay being with the prisoner by myself, and I said yes and turned out to be a good decision. Could have gone the other way.
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Alabama prisoners wouldn't hurt you at all. You're a God to them. I'm for real.
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Okay, so. So work release. Now, what does that. I mean, I know what work release means, but when you go to a work release facility, what does that mean?
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In Alabama, the work releases have cable TV. The undercaps also have them.
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Okay.
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At 2 o', clock, the TVs. You got one size movie. The other side, sports. Everybody turns the sports show to the Paul Fine Bomb show. That's every day.
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I'm glad to hear that. I am really glad to hear that
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because you hear all these other people. My AIs is 1780, 26. You don't believe that. You want to check it, but they, they, you hear all these people call in all that crap, they're lying to you on some of that stuff. Paul, you are a God. As people in Alabama, the Alabama convicts, the real ones, because that's all they got all week to do is pick games and talk about sports and you give them the heads up on everything.
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Well, thank you very much. You know, Frank, listen, I've been gone from the state and until recently, so when I'm going to talk to Tuberville and maybe we can do something about the prisons in Alabama and maybe come to some different ones and do our show, I think it would be really informative to me and the audience and certainly to the prisoners. Thank you, Frank. I wonder, I mean, I really think this is a great idea. I think there's a lot there and I'm not being farcical about it. I think it's a really good idea. I mean, if we can help rehabilitate some people and make them future fine bomb callers. We will quick break. More to come right after this.
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And welcome back. Josh is up next. Hello, Josh, good afternoon.
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Hey, Paul. Talking about that last call. You mean to tell me that they're watching the Paul Feinbaum show in prisons, but over the last few months and years, people from the hospital can't even get the SEC network? You know what I'm talking about?
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Yeah, I do know what you're talking about because I probably the biggest complaint we get are from hospitals and there's a reason for it. Hospitals subscribe to what's probably the cheapest cable bundle that you can get. And the SEC is considered a premium channel.
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Right. Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird, you know, people getting rehabilitated.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You know, I literally don't know a single person with the Alabama Department of Prison, but somebody's doing something right if they're getting us on in prison. I like that. And so we'll keep working on that. Hey, thanks for the call. I mean, listen, I mean, some of it is, I say this somewhat tongue in cheek, but not really. I mean, we obviously have a lot of truck drivers that call the show. We have a lot of teachers and a lot of ex cons and they're as welcome as the next person. And quite frankly, some of our ex prisoners have been among the most entertaining callers we have. Let's check out Don in Florida. Hello, Don.
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Oh, Mr. Fine Bomb. I've read a couple of things I'll ask you, but there are led they say legends, legend. But I want to tell you the three legends. One of them is you, the other one is Laura Rutledge and the third one is Nicole from NBC. So those are the real legends. I had to get that out.
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Thank you.
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Number two.
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Thank you very much.
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Tennessee got Jim Knowles this year, so I gotta put them in the playoff or one of the teams will be there. So I'm gonna pick Tennessee, LSU, Texas and Georgia. We'll see how that is. Number three question and then I'll hang up after maybe three or four. Pennsylvania with our new coach brought 24 players and has got 20. So in the future I would love to know in the SEC different teams how what they've got. So because I think he's kind of confident Indiana, so he might be in a play also a couple years. And I want to know in your travels because you are the legend. And Laura or she could be number one though when you're traveling. I know your wife is a good cook, but what place or what team area you go to has the best foods. I want to hang up with your answer. God bless you. My birthday Saturday. I'll be.
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Thank you very much. And by the way, I pre thank you for the call and I appreciate what you said about Laura Rutledge and I'll make sure she gets that message because she misses her friends down here and we are really sorry not to be with her for the first time in about 12 years. Thank you very, very much for the call. Let's continue with more of your phone callers here. And Sterling is in Arkansas. Hey, Sterling.
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Hey, Paul. And and what you saw with Tim's call is one of the problems with Arkansas football. Everybody can't get on one accord. He let the media days. He didn't like his presentation, as he put it at media days. I don't know what was wrong with it. You know, it was nothing wrong with it because you didn't hear about it. If it was terrible or anything that was noteworthy, you would have it would have been noteworthy that you would have known about it. He was good enough to be a topic on first date for a segment about the he had made a little comment about oh yeah, wife is hot. Well, I mean I don't know where that's coming from, but that's the problem. He probably won a Petrino or a different coach. So he's already behind the eight ball in Arkansas. Everybody Gotta get on one accord and go in one direction. I don't know how that's gonna happen. Petrino coming back with one of the worst things that could happen. So that, that's the vibe, that's the vices. We can never get on board. Some of Fields did say one thing that I've been saying forever. I don't know how it's gonna be a topic but eat it. I, I heard that he. I was out of the country so I was getting my stuff. Did some people that if he can get Walmart behind him, it's over. And I think that's a fair statement if he could somehow do that. He said he got FedEx so he gonna, he's gonna try to wallow but that's what's gonna, that's, that's about what it's gonna take. And that's just gonna get you in the game that go. That's not gonna guarantee no sec anything. SEC championship. As the championship game appearances play our friends, that's not going to guarantee you nothing. But at least you'll be in the game. Have a great day, Paul. And no, I'm not an ex con, but if that's what it takes to move up on this show, I think I come up with something misdemeanor. Y' all guys have a great day.
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Thank you, Sterling. Thank you very much. We are two hours in. It's been a very eventful Wednesday afternoon. We'll continue with more phone calls. Matt Hayes will also join us in a few minutes. We'll be right back.
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The Paul Finebaum Show – Hour 2: Big Ten Preview

Date: July 29, 2026
Host: Paul Finebaum (ESPN)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Paul Finebaum Show delves into key narratives as the college football season approaches, with a special emphasis on the Big Ten. Paul fields fan calls on hot-button SEC topics and coaches, explores the implications of potential Congressional intervention in college football, and features a live report from Big Ten Media Days. The episode captures the excitement and anxieties surrounding powerhouse programs, coaching hot seats, intense recruiting battles, and the personal flavor of Finebaum's listeners.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Coaching Hot Seats & Economics in the SEC

Kalen DeBoer's Job Security at Alabama
- Caller Paul from Sacramento asks how many losses would put Alabama’s new coach Kalen DeBoer on the hot seat.
- Paul Finebaum:
  - Advocates patience, noting:
    
    "There's not a number on DeBoer right now. I think he's probably a lot safer than he appears. And the reason is economics. Alabama can't afford to buy him out right now unless something cataclysmic occurs." [02:07]
- Economic realities, not just performance, often dictate coaching decisions.
SEC Coaches Ranked by Hot Seat
- Caller Darrell references a ranking by Scott Rabelais, discussing the achievements and expectations of top coaches.
- Notable mentions:
  - Kirby Smart (Georgia) – Hot seat rating: 0.
  - Lane Kiffin – Hot seat: 1.
  - Steve Sarkisian – Hot seat: 3.
  - Kalen DeBoer (Alabama) – Hot seat: 4.
  - Mike Elko (Texas A&M) – Hot seat: 2.
  - At the bottom: Will Stein (Mississippi State) – Hot seat: 0.

2. Congress and the College Football "Spending Cap"

Caller Dan from North Carolina questions Congressional efforts to impose a spending cap.
- Paul Finebaum:
  
  "I have never bought into this congressional bill and I still don't because Congress moves the goalposts more than any group of people. The only thing I've ever thought was worthy of Congress was a singular antitrust exemption that would protect college football from these nuisance lawsuits." [04:22]
  - Skeptical of Congress’s ability to enforce or even agree on useful regulation.
Enforcement Skepticism:
- Paul:
  
  "Let's say there's a cap at whatever the number is, $48.3 million, and LSU spends $70 million on their roster. Like, who's going to come get them?" [05:42]
  - The lack of realistic enforcement mechanisms is a concern.

3. Big Ten Media Days Report – Focus on Ohio State

Interview with Steven Means (Cleveland.com, covers Ohio State)
- Jeremiah Smith’s Heisman Aspirations:
  - Smith, a freshman, boldly advocates to "give [the Heisman] more to the best player in the country and not just turning it into a quarterback award." [06:54]
  - He publicly sets his sights on being a finalist, challenging traditional voting patterns.
- Recruiting "What-Ifs":
  - Smith reveals to the media, "his dream school growing up was to go to Alabama. He wanted to play for Nick Saban, but he felt like they'd never really recruited him." [08:04]
  - This prompts reflection from Paul:
    
    "That's really almost amazing because, I mean, it's not like his high school recruiting went under the radar screen, did it?" [08:44]
  - The segment explores how Alabama potentially missed out on "the best player in college football" due to timing and recruiting dynamics.
- Ohio State’s 2026 Schedule & Playoff Prospects:
  - Means emphasizes, "There's enough games on the schedule... this team is going to be tested." [10:01]
  - Acknowledges past “cruise control” seasons, predicting genuine tests against Texas, Iowa, USC, Oregon, and Michigan.
  - Suggests the Buckeyes could finish anywhere from playoff-ready to a "9 and 3 team" that sparks selection debate. [10:01]
- Big Ten-SEC Scheduling Dynamics:
  - Discussion of Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti’s preference for more inter-conference games with the SEC.
  - "The Big Ten doesn't want to add anything else to its play until they get clarity... Until they're structured, the Big Ten doesn't want to move." [12:03]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

1. On College Football Regulation and Congress:

Paul Finebaum [04:22]:

"I am lost in the maze of Washington, D.C. on this one. ... I can't believe it's come down to something that is bad for the game and not enforceable."
Paul Finebaum [05:42]:

"Let's say there's a cap at whatever the number is, $48.3 million, and LSU spends $70 million on their roster. Like, who's going to come get them?"

2. On Coaching Uncertainty and the Nature of Buyouts:

Paul Finebaum [02:07]:

"There's not a number on DeBoer right now. I think he's probably a lot safer than he appears. And the reason is economics. Alabama can't afford to buy him out right now unless something cataclysmic occurs."

3. Ohio State's Heisman Hopefuls and Recruiting What-Ifs:

Steven Means [06:54]:

"I was asking [Jeremiah Smith] a little bit about the Heisman Trophy and... he wants to be a Heisman Trophy finalist. In fact, he was almost challenging voters about the idea of looking at the award in totality and maybe giving it more to the best player... and not just turning it into a quarterback award."
Steven Means [08:04]:

"His dream school growing up was to go to Alabama. He wanted to play for Nick Saban, but he felt like they'd never really recruited him."
Paul Finebaum [08:44]:

"That's really almost amazing because, I mean, it's not like his high school recruiting went under the radar screen, did it?"

4. Big Ten Schedule Analysis:

Steven Means [10:01]:

"There's enough games on the schedule this year where this team is going to be tested. And so if they get through this, we're going to be talking about a College Football Playoff team in Ohio State who has truly been battle tested for the first time in a couple of years."

5. Humor & Personality: The Show in Prisons

Paul Finebaum [26:29]:

"I've been to some prisons before on various tours, and it always seems like the prisoners know who we are... Don't you? How great do you think this show would be a couple of times a year live from a prison?"
Frank from Alabama [32:09]:

"...the TVs. You got one size movie. The other side, sports. Everybody turns the sports show to the Paul Fine Bomb show. That's every day."
Paul Finebaum [32:43]:

"If we can help rehabilitate some people and make them future Finebaum callers..."

Timestamps for Key Segments

[00:44] – [02:35]: Kalen DeBoer’s job security, Half Moon Bay, and SEC coaching buyouts.
[03:04] – [05:57]: Congressional "spending cap" on college football, skepticism over enforceability.
[06:54] – [13:20]: Steven Means at Big Ten Media Days covering Ohio State’s stars, recruiting "what-ifs," and schedule breakdown.
[15:00] – [18:09]: SEC coaching hot seat rankings, coach records, and fan sentiment.
[24:53] – [32:43]: Prison listenership, Finebaum’s musings about a "prison tour," insight from callers with direct experience.
[35:14] – [39:18]: Further calls about coaching, program support, and Arkansas unity.

Additional Listener Questions and Topics

Recruiting battles in Missouri for Coach Drinkwitz and the persistent challenge of toppling Alabama's program [18:30–18:55].
Arkansas fan frustrations with lack of unity and skepticism regarding Coach Silverfield's media presence [37:25].
The role major corporate sponsors (e.g., Walmart, FedEx) might play in propelling Arkansas back to SEC relevance [37:25].
Callers reflect on Paul’s status as a "legend" alongside other prominent media figures [35:14].

Episode Tone and Atmosphere

Paul Finebaum maintains his trademark mix of informality and expertise, engaging callers with wit and candor. The show’s tone is conversational, blending serious analysis—especially regarding coaching futures and the evolving landscape of college football—with playful asides and community vibes. Notably, the repeated topic of the show’s popularity in prisons sparked both humor and reflection on the diverse audience of college football.

Summary

This episode provides a snapshot of the pressures and excitement as the 2026 college football season looms: the SEC’s coaching carousel and financial realities, the uncertain prospects of federal regulation, and the Big Ten’s quest for national preeminence, particularly for Ohio State. Listener calls add color and context, keeping the show grounded in the passions of college football’s diverse fanbase.

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Hey, welcome back. Second hour of the program is live and we continue to take more of your phone calls. And Paul is up next in Sacramento. Hey Paul.
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Hey, what's up? I just came back from Half Moon Bay. Guys, I gotta tell you something. Who Southern boys, Northern California weather is the best ever. There's Nothing better. Beautiful 90 degrees and then 50 degrees at night. It's awesome. You other thing is Helen, Deborah, I'm a little worried how many losses this is for you, Paul. How many losses is it gonna take for him to go? Bye bye.
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Hey Paul, before I answer that question, I have wanted for years to go to Half Moon Bay. Is it worth it?
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Yeah, it's awesome. Sam's Chowder House. We had the best chowder ever. We had the best calamari ever. It's awesome. It's just okay from. I'm in Rockland, so I drive two hours and I'm at the beach. I go east. I mean Lake Tahoe in an hour and a half. This is Dodge country.
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Okay, I will definitely check it out. There's not a number on DeBoer right now. I think he's probably a lot safer then he appears. And the reason is economics. Alabama can't afford to buy him out right now unless something cataclysmic occurs. There are situations that money is never the problem. But I think Alabama is a long way from that.
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Hey Paul, have you been to Lake Tahoe?
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No, I haven't.
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Gotta go eight eighth wonder of the world.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Now I thought about what the weather. I ended up doing the east coast this, this July. But I am, I'm primed for for a west coast trip next year. Thanks so much for the call. Really do appreciate it. Thank you very much. Dan is up next in North Carolina.
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Hi Paul. You're actually the only person I would trust in trying to explain what I'm about to ask. And that's the United States Senate bringing up a cap to save college Football, presumably, whether the SEC and the Big Tenet have not read or have agreed that the revised content is something they could vote upon. I think you mentioned in your opening that there's more money has already been spent or allocated than what the revision some $48 million proposed is supposed to benefit. And my question to you is, what is the intention here? Is the intention that they're trying to save students or athletes from moving from one place to another? Less is it to finance the school's ability to pay them? Just exactly what is the cap supposed to do on behalf of saving college football? I listen to you,
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Dan. I will tell you, I have never bought into this congressional bill and I still don't because Congress moves the goalposts more than any group of people. The only thing I've ever thought was worthy of Congress was a singular antitrust exemption that would protect college football from these nuisance lawsuits. But I'm not even sure in the hundreds of millions of dollars that have been spent lobbying this bill that that even completely answers that question. I am lost. I am lost in the maze of Washington, D.C. on this one. And I know I didn't answer your question because I can't believe it's come down to something that is bad for the game and not enforceable.
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In my opinion, that is exactly where I'm coming from on this. I mean, after all of the things that have been proposed, the last thing in the world I was thinking about was a cap gap on spending. They're all spending money like drunken sailors out there. And I think Congress is going to do something about stopping that. I don't see it, but I appreciate you trying to answer it for me.
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Yeah. I mean, Dan, how is Congress? So let's say there's a cap at whatever the number is, $48.3 million, and LSU spends $70 million on their roster. Like, who's going to come get them?
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Right. That's, that's.
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I mean, there are no, I mean, there, there are barely any checks and balances right now between branches. And I mean, that's the whole purpose of the, you know, the executive branch. You know, keeping checks on the executive branch, but there's no such thing anymore. So, I mean, again, I don't know. If it passes, then let's see where we are. If it doesn't pass, it won't pass. Steven Means joins us now. He's at Big Ten Media Days where Ohio State has just wrapped up, and they are certainly the talk of Media Days with Julian Sahan and Jeremiah Smith. And a stacked roster, a very difficult schedule. Steven, thank you. Appreciate it. I know it's been busy there. Tell us what the day has been like, especially from an Ohio State perspective.
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Yeah, I think obviously Julian Sam may be a little bit more tame, but I think Jeremiah Smith coming out of his shell a little bit. I was asking him a little bit about the Heisman Trophy and like his, he wants to be a Heisman Trophy finalist. In fact, he was almost challenging voters about the idea of looking at the award in totality and maybe giving it more to the best player of the country and not just turning it into a quarterback award. While from a Ryan Day perspective, I think what we heard a lot from Ryan Day today was a lot of things that were echoing with Tony Fatitti was saying Yesterday about the 12 team playoff, maybe going to 2014 playoffs, the value of conference championship games and a lot of that stuff. So I think from Dave's perspective, maybe more big picture while his best player kind of putting himself out there ahead of time and saying, listen, I want to be in the conversation for our Eisen Trophy win.
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Talking to Steven means Stephen. I want to go back to something about Jeremiah Smith. We all know Julian Sajan went to Alabama and then left. A number of other players have come and gone. But tell us some of the things that Jeremiah Smith said today, because I had not heard this one before, that he wanted to play at Alabama.
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Yeah, he got asked a question about the fact that the Big Ten schools are maybe getting a little bit more involved with teams in the sec, school players in the sec, players in the SEC country. And he just kind of admitted to us, his point blank, that, yeah, his dream school growing up was to go to Alabama. He wanted to play for Nick Saban, but he felt like they'd never really recruited him. Now, granted, given what's happened with Nick Saban at the time, that Jeremiah Smith would have gotten to college, maybe his career goes the same way as Julian sand goes, where he gets there. He's there for a month and ends up transferring to Ohio State. But apparently Alabama missed out on an opportunity to get the best player in college football.
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I mean, that is. That's really almost amazing because, I mean, it's not like his high school recruiting went under the radar screen, did it?
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No, he was the number one player in the country, the number one wide receiver. And I think if you're an Alabama fan and you're hearing that, you're thinking about a world where what if you would have had Jeremiah Smith on one side when Ryan Williams is on the other side. How much better would maybe some of these seasons had gone over the last couple of years, Especially if, let's just say Nick Saban doesn't decide to call it quits after 2023. And now you have a world where your passing game is Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams with Julian Zan throwing to him. I mean, that's. I think Jeremiah Smith created a big what if in Tuscaloosa history just by simply saying that J Alabama was his dream school at one point.
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That is among the most shocking things I've heard today. Let's dig a little deeper on Ohio State. Everybody likes them and it's hard to find fault except for this at Texas, at Iowa, at Indiana, at Southern California, Oregon, Nebraska and Michigan. I mean, there's a, there's a lot of choice games there this year. What about it?
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Yeah, I think the last two years, and JJ even said this today, I wouldn't necessarily call it a cupcake schedule, but I think because of maybe what some teams turned into over the last two years, Ohio State hasn't really been challenged much in regular season. In 2024, their only challenging games were the Oregon game because that was one of the best teams in the country, and then the Michigan team. And that's because you had lost three straight at the time and they lost both of those games. Now, it didn't end up mattering because they won a national championship. So that's that. And then you look at last year's schedule. They had Texas to open the season. That was a challenging game. You maybe thought the Penn State game would be a challenging game, but Penn State didn't end up being what maybe people thought they were going to be. And so there was an element last year where it felt like Ohio State was operating in cruise control. And then by the time they got on the field with some teams who could look them in the eye, we see what happened against Indiana, we see what happened against Miami. They're not going to be able to do that this year. They're not going to be able to get through the season and have their problems, not look them in the face until December. You got Texas the second week of the year. You have to go to Iowa. You've got to play USC on the road with a Lincoln Riley team who is very, very confident. At least that's the way he talked on Tuesday during Big Ten media days. You've got Oregon on your schedule. Michigan is the Michigan game. There's enough games on the schedule this year where this team is going to be tested. And so if they get through this, we're going to be talking about a College Football Playoff team in Ohio State who has truly been battle tested for the first time in a couple of years. Or you're talking about a potential floor of a 9 and 3 team and we're having conversations about whether the 9 and 3 team belongs in the College Football Playoff at all.
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Stephen, just away from the Buckeyes and I know that's a team you cover being around media days, hearing all the conversations going on and I know there's so much where I live back and forth about the big 10 sec, but just your what some of your takeaways, especially about something Petiti said this week that he would like to see these two schools play each other more. That's not easy to do.
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I think Petiti is saying all the right things while at the same time waiting for structure, waiting for clarity before the Big Ten makes any more moves. Obviously the SEC is going to nine conference games this year, which a lot of Big Ten teams have been vocal about wanting to see and they got that. But then the SEC took it a step further obviously and went to you also have to play a non con game against a team who's from another powerful conference or Notre Dame. The Big Ten does not have that as a mandate in their conference. I asked TD about that on Tuesday and he immediately went back into like we're not essentially we are not having these types of conversations until we get clarity in the Sport. The Big Ten has been firm and want the 2014 playoffs. They've maybe tweaked some things in their ideas of that obviously at this point. But it's I think Petiti would love to live in a world where, let's just say hypothetically we had like a Big Ten SEC challenge where every year an SEC team and a Big Ten team are playing each other and it's multiple. But the Big Ten doesn't want to add anything else to its play until they get clarity. Whether it's the bill that's currently in Congress or anything else around the sport. Until they're structured, the Big Ten doesn't want to move. And I think Tony Petiti made that abundantly clear with how he spoke on Tuesday and every coach who has spoken since then seems to be talking in alignment with that
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great stuff. Stephen Means covers the Buckeyes from of course, Cleveland. Your phone calls continue here. We have we've been three guests and about an hour in change and other guests a little bit later on so we've got a pretty big Runway here to get your phone calls on and we'll do that coming up next.
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And welcome back. Great to have all of you with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. James is up next.
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Hey, yeah, I called yesterday about Auburn and you said he was optimistic about their quarterback now playing and all. Yeah, they didn't do that good down Florida.
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Yeah. Hey, James, thanks for the call. You know, they've got a big game against Florida early in the season. A lot of conversation about those two coaches considering one was supposed to go to Auburn and ended up at Florida. Darrell is up next. Good afternoon, Darrell.
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Good afternoon, Paul. Thanks for taking my call. Scott Rabelais had an interesting article this morning and he ranked 16 coaches and how they stacked up in the SEC from one to 16. He had Kirby Smart ranked number one at Georgia with a record of 117 and 21. And he also did a hot seat rating by each coach. Kirby had a hot seat rating of zero. Lane Kiffin's number two with a record of 116. At 53, he has a hot seat rating of one. Now he said he ranked these people best on based on achievements and expectations. And he said it's not a scientific poll by any means. Steve Sarkeesian is ranked number three with a record of 94 and 55 and he's got a hot seat rating of three. I'll go over the top five with you. Caleb Dubois ranked number four with a record of 57 and 17. His hot seat rating is four. Mike Elko from Texas A and M's number five with a record 35 and 16. His hot seat rating is two. Kind of interesting. And it goes down the number. Let's just go to number 11. Josh Hypo from Tennessee, 73 and 28 overall record. His hot seat rating is 5. Shane Beamer from South Carolina, career record 33 and 30. Guess what his hot seat rating is, Paul? You can't guess.
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Pretty high, Ken.
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Jeff Levy from Mississippi state record was 7 and 18. His hot seat rating is 8. Well, Will Stein is ranked number 16 with a career record of 0 and 0. His hot seat rating is 0. Anybody else you want to know about, Paul? Anybody comes across your mind that I want to know?
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Darryl? I think I am about as up to date as I need to be.
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That's too long. That's too long a call. Going over nothing.
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Darrell, thank you. Yeah, if you'd had me on that hot seat rating, I'd be a little more nervous. Thank you for the call. Grayson is in Missouri and you are next up.
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Hey Paul, how's it going?
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Thank you.
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Thank you for taking my call. I just have a quick question about how important is it to recruit Kansas City and St. Louis for coach Drink. And then also if we played Alabama this season, how do you think that would go?
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Well, Grayson, first of all. Yeah, you better be able to recruit your two biggest markets in the state even though they are a long way from one another. Thanks for the call. I would like, I would take Alabama over Missouri. I thought Missouri had one of its best shots at Alabama last year. Came down to about a one possession game in Columbia and they couldn't get it done. I mean I, I will believe Missouri can beat a good team when I see it. Until then I'll just keep, I'll keep. I'll keep dreaming. Thank you for the call. Tim is in Arkansas. Good afternoon.
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Well, hey Paul, that was good, Good to hear you. Last week during the media days I was in front of the TV. Made sure to be in front of the TV at 9:30 Thursday morning just so I could listen to Silverfield's presentation. Oh, once again you may not remember, I'm a Hall fan now. He did his presentation to Aunt and I don't know, to me they were uninforming, uninteresting. Above all, I think uninspiring. And I was one. But the, the other thing is myself and a lot of people consider you the, the media voice of the sec. And here's the other part of it. Why did you not interview him?
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Well, Tim, I'll tell you why we didn't interview him. We have two. The SEC network has basically a morning session and an afternoon session. The morning session on the SEC network broadcast, the morning broadcast, the morning people at the podium and then usually they come by and do a sit down. We do the afternoon and he was on the morning, so we never really intersected in the morning time. I was doing the ESPN shows like get up and First Take. So I never even. I never even saw Ryan Silverfield on the day he was there. What day was he there? Wednesday. We had. We had Coach Leon. Who else do we have on that day? We had a couple of coaches on, so we got the opposite. So my point is that the morning, like Kiffin was in the morning, we don't. We talk to Sarkeesian, just same way we do it every year.
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Well, did you, did you watch his presentation? And speaking of that, no.
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Let me explain. And I don't mean it's not a matter of not not wanting to watch it, but I am on television at the exact same time that he is on television, except he's on this channel and I was on espn. So we never really. I mean, that doesn't mean I didn't see some of the other coaches, but I was primarily paying attention in the morning to the coaches I would be talking about on the ESPN shows.
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Well, what I was trying to say, though, I saw Sarkeesian's presentation in Silverfield and if I was a donator, Sarkeesian would get the money. Do you hear what I'm saying there?
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Well, listen, I'll defer to you, Tim. I didn't. I never saw a clip of Silverfield, never saw him live. But I will tell you this, you only get one chance to make that impression. I'll spare you the cliche. Take advantage of it. There are highly paid people that work for the University of Arkansas whose job it is to prepare him for that moment. If he chooses not to listen to them or do what they tell, then that's on him. It all starts at the top of the food chain. And the top of the Arkansas food chain is Hunter Euro check. We'll take a short break. We are coming back with more right after this.
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You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum Show Podcast.
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And welcome back. Sparky is up next from Alabama. Hello, Sparks.
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Hey, Paul. Misty. Math. Hey, I want to shout out to Morgan county inmates there. One of them called me the other day and said he heard me on there. Auburn fan named Biscuit. Imagine that. And old school. He probably missed.
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Now, Sparks, hold on, hold on a second. Are you saying that the inmates are listening to the show?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got cable. They didn't have no cable when I was in there. Remember I rode off top bunk, thought I was gonna go to the hospital, watch Alabama orbit on ESPN in 91. But it didn't work out that way. Something.
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I'm glad, you know, I'm really. Listen, I'm. I'm glad to know that we are the. The show of choice in. In. In prison.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, Paul, I think I know the answer to you.
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I mean, we should be.
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Yeah, yeah, I think I know the answer to this, Paul, but I know before the expansion in 92 in Arkansas and South Carolina, the SEC split everything. Even if you go to a bowl game or NCAA tournament or anything, they all split the money. I bet they don't do that no more, do they?
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Well, it's a little different. Everybody gets an equal share. But depending if you go to the cfp, you Get a. You get a big chunk of that.
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Yeah. Okay, that's good. Anyway. All right. That work. Take it easy. Roll Tide.
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Thank you. You know, I bring this up all the time, but. Because I don't. I mean, I've been to some prisons before on various tours, and it always seems like the prisoners know who we are. But I made this argument once before and I'm going to do it again, I think. Don't you? How great do you think this show would be a couple of times a year live from a prison? Can you imagine? Think about that. Take, like, do a forum and just, you know, the hot mic open mic night at Draper Prison. Someone is missing an opportunity here. I see this as a primetime special. Fine. Bomb live from. I mean, we can. We can do the prisons. He's talking about a prison in Alabama. We could do the prisons of the sec. Vine bomb. Live from the Huntsville, Texas prison week of the Oklahoma Texas game. Slammer. Sounds like a guy that's been to prison with a name like that. Hey, Slammer.
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Oh, come on, Paul. If I'd been to prison, I took Stephen A. Smith with me. How you doing? Long time no talk.
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Good to hear from you.
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What about it? Yeah, I got my wife slave driving, Paul. I'm slaving her. She may go to prison next if she don't start painting a little faster.
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Ooh,
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You may even have a stamp tramp back there. It says clamor you. You never know until you come down here. Paul, how's things been rolling with you and the wife? Rolling with you? I don't hear Randy no more. Faded away.
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Well, there's a reason why you don't hear Randy. He retired. Randy retired.
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He rode off into the sunset. You're not gonna do that, Paul. I'm not gonna let you do that. So. So when are you coming together? You know. You know we're getting a. You. You know we're getting a. A Christian academy down here, don't you?
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No.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's probably not a good idea for me to broadcast it, but it's coming soon. They're talking about it, building one down here. You're gonna have to come down here and do a show down here for us and everything.
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Okay. Love to Stephen along tonight.
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You need to come. I've been waiting on you for about five years now. When's the last time that you heard Stephen a. About Kaylin DeBoer? About Kaylin not really seeming interested in winning a championship. And it kind of brought me to Concern. What about you, Paul? Does that kind of concern you a little bit?
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Yeah. No, I thought he made some very good points last week. And it doesn't mean Debore isn't a good coach and doesn't mean he won't be successful.
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How do you think Ryan Coleman Williams is going to do this year?
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Well, I think. I don't think he can really do any worse than last year's slammer, so I'm pretty upbeat on him. Hey, great to hear from you. I'll see you at Pruitt's one of these days. And Gaston Frank is up next in Alabama. Hey, Frank.
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Hey. Paul Yalls talking a while ago about the prisons. Let me tell you, Alabama prisons. Yeah, I don't know cable in it now, but the work releases do. I guarantee you every work release in Alabama right now has their station turned to you. Everywhere. Because there's two, there's two rooms, movie room.
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Okay, now, now, Frank, help me understand something. So prisons, if you're in, if you're in like a state prison, is, is there a TV in, in the. What's that? Okay, Frank, do me a favor. Can you possibly turn that TV down for a second? I want to ask you a question.
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Yes, I'm going outside. I could roll outside real quick.
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Okay, so when you're. You said you were, you. You were in a state facility, is that right?
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Several different state prisons. Draper. And I was okay for a little while. That's West Jefferson down in Bessford. You know what I'm talking about. 100 warriors.
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I have, I have been to West Jefferson. I have been to West Jefferson prison before to interview somebody. That is a, that's a well known prison there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, it's a tough place. I was. They asked me if I would if I felt okay being with the prisoner by myself, and I said yes and turned out to be a good decision. Could have gone the other way.
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Alabama prisoners wouldn't hurt you at all. You're a God to them. I'm for real.
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Okay, so. So work release. Now, what does that. I mean, I know what work release means, but when you go to a work release facility, what does that mean?
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In Alabama, the work releases have cable TV. The undercaps also have them.
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Okay.
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At 2 o', clock, the TVs. You got one size movie. The other side, sports. Everybody turns the sports show to the Paul Fine Bomb show. That's every day.
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I'm glad to hear that. I am really glad to hear that
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because you hear all these other people. My AIs is 1780, 26. You don't believe that. You want to check it, but they, they, you hear all these people call in all that crap, they're lying to you on some of that stuff. Paul, you are a God. As people in Alabama, the Alabama convicts, the real ones, because that's all they got all week to do is pick games and talk about sports and you give them the heads up on everything.
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Well, thank you very much. You know, Frank, listen, I've been gone from the state and until recently, so when I'm going to talk to Tuberville and maybe we can do something about the prisons in Alabama and maybe come to some different ones and do our show, I think it would be really informative to me and the audience and certainly to the prisoners. Thank you, Frank. I wonder, I mean, I really think this is a great idea. I think there's a lot there and I'm not being farcical about it. I think it's a really good idea. I mean, if we can help rehabilitate some people and make them future fine bomb callers. We will quick break. More to come right after this.
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You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum show podcast.
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And welcome back. Josh is up next. Hello, Josh, good afternoon.
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Hey, Paul. Talking about that last call. You mean to tell me that they're watching the Paul Feinbaum show in prisons, but over the last few months and years, people from the hospital can't even get the SEC network? You know what I'm talking about?
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Yeah, I do know what you're talking about because I probably the biggest complaint we get are from hospitals and there's a reason for it. Hospitals subscribe to what's probably the cheapest cable bundle that you can get. And the SEC is considered a premium channel.
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Right. Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird, you know, people getting rehabilitated.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You know, I literally don't know a single person with the Alabama Department of Prison, but somebody's doing something right if they're getting us on in prison. I like that. And so we'll keep working on that. Hey, thanks for the call. I mean, listen, I mean, some of it is, I say this somewhat tongue in cheek, but not really. I mean, we obviously have a lot of truck drivers that call the show. We have a lot of teachers and a lot of ex cons and they're as welcome as the next person. And quite frankly, some of our ex prisoners have been among the most entertaining callers we have. Let's check out Don in Florida. Hello, Don.
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Oh, Mr. Fine Bomb. I've read a couple of things I'll ask you, but there are led they say legends, legend. But I want to tell you the three legends. One of them is you, the other one is Laura Rutledge and the third one is Nicole from NBC. So those are the real legends. I had to get that out.
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Thank you.
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Number two.
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Thank you very much.
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Tennessee got Jim Knowles this year, so I gotta put them in the playoff or one of the teams will be there. So I'm gonna pick Tennessee, LSU, Texas and Georgia. We'll see how that is. Number three question and then I'll hang up after maybe three or four. Pennsylvania with our new coach brought 24 players and has got 20. So in the future I would love to know in the SEC different teams how what they've got. So because I think he's kind of confident Indiana, so he might be in a play also a couple years. And I want to know in your travels because you are the legend. And Laura or she could be number one though when you're traveling. I know your wife is a good cook, but what place or what team area you go to has the best foods. I want to hang up with your answer. God bless you. My birthday Saturday. I'll be.
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Thank you very much. And by the way, I pre thank you for the call and I appreciate what you said about Laura Rutledge and I'll make sure she gets that message because she misses her friends down here and we are really sorry not to be with her for the first time in about 12 years. Thank you very, very much for the call. Let's continue with more of your phone callers here. And Sterling is in Arkansas. Hey, Sterling.
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Hey, Paul. And and what you saw with Tim's call is one of the problems with Arkansas football. Everybody can't get on one accord. He let the media days. He didn't like his presentation, as he put it at media days. I don't know what was wrong with it. You know, it was nothing wrong with it because you didn't hear about it. If it was terrible or anything that was noteworthy, you would have it would have been noteworthy that you would have known about it. He was good enough to be a topic on first date for a segment about the he had made a little comment about oh yeah, wife is hot. Well, I mean I don't know where that's coming from, but that's the problem. He probably won a Petrino or a different coach. So he's already behind the eight ball in Arkansas. Everybody Gotta get on one accord and go in one direction. I don't know how that's gonna happen. Petrino coming back with one of the worst things that could happen. So that, that's the vibe, that's the vices. We can never get on board. Some of Fields did say one thing that I've been saying forever. I don't know how it's gonna be a topic but eat it. I, I heard that he. I was out of the country so I was getting my stuff. Did some people that if he can get Walmart behind him, it's over. And I think that's a fair statement if he could somehow do that. He said he got FedEx so he gonna, he's gonna try to wallow but that's what's gonna, that's, that's about what it's gonna take. And that's just gonna get you in the game that go. That's not gonna guarantee no sec anything. SEC championship. As the championship game appearances play our friends, that's not going to guarantee you nothing. But at least you'll be in the game. Have a great day, Paul. And no, I'm not an ex con, but if that's what it takes to move up on this show, I think I come up with something misdemeanor. Y' all guys have a great day.
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Thank you, Sterling. Thank you very much. We are two hours in. It's been a very eventful Wednesday afternoon. We'll continue with more phone calls. Matt Hayes will also join us in a few minutes. We'll be right back.
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