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Paul Feinbaum
The pride, passion and pageantry of college football lives here.
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Mike Golick Sr.
This is the Paul Feinbaum Show, Our
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Paul Feinbaum
two podcast back as our camps begin to open, we try to look around college football and talk to people that certainly have achieved a great deal and hard to find somebody who's done more than our next guest, amazing career coach Willie Fritz. Now he's Houston, he was at 2 Wayne. He's been a lot of places. And coach, first of all, thanks for, for making time. I know you've got an opener coming up with Oregon State. You play Tech a few weeks after that so just good afternoon first of
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Coach Willie Fritz
all, well thanks for having me on. I appreciate watch you many times so thank you.
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Paul Feinbaum
Well, thank you coach. I'm there's so many questions but this time of the year I know that you're in the process, like some of the other coaches of seeing the players for the first time on the field. There have been all kinds of lead ups but how is it for you? You've done this a couple of years but clearly it has to be a special exciting time for you and your staff and your players.
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Coach Willie Fritz
Yeah, it's really exciting. I love the beginning of football, you know, spring ball and for us the first 10 practices during camp we work with everybody and I think these five for five rulers is going, you know, help out developing players because now everybody understands that, you know, Whether you play 0 snaps or 100 snaps, it's going to count as a season. So I think there's going to be a lot more competition offensively and defensively. I think a much more competition in the kicking game. Guys are going to want to run down field on kickoff or be on your punt block return unit or, or whatever. So, yeah, the beginning of camp is, you know, the NCAA is allowing you to do more things in the summer and also in the spring. So you've got a lot more of your offense and defense and special teams in now, and it's exciting to be able to go out and compete against each other.
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Paul Feinbaum
Coach, I'm really interested and we'll talk about your team in a minute. Coming off of a 103 season, but you've done so much. You were at Berlin, which pretty famous college out in Texas for winning championships and producing famous players. And obviously after that, Central Missouri and Sam Houston and your road through, of course, Tulane got so much notoriety and now at Houston, at every level, I know coaching is about fundamentals, but does it get different from level to level, or is coaching football still the same?
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Coach Willie Fritz
It's still the same. You know, still we want to be the best blocking and tackling team in the country, but, you know, you've got to adapt and change when you go to different schools, different levels. You know, how you recruited Houston is different than how you recruited Tulane, for sure. We're very fortunate that, you know, I haven't been on a plane yet to go recruit anybody since I've been here at the University of Houston. So you just gotta make sure you adapt to your surroundings, you know, your school academically, you know how many people you have in the area that you can recruit, your alumni. This is the largest school I've been at, where we're almost 50,000 students here at the University of Houston, you know, so there's a lot of things that are different from the other schools that I've been at. But, you know, I've done it, I think, a good job with my staff of tweaking how we do things at each stop along the way.
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Paul Feinbaum
There are all these. There have been so many inflection points, playing for championships, even at Georgia Southern, the success you had there post season. But it's hard not to associate you with that Cotton bowl win a couple of years ago against Southern Cal. It's just whether it's fair or not, those are moments that you never outrun. But for that one moment, because it made all of us in college Football, who, let's be honest, are a bit elite when it comes to looking at smaller schools that we don't think necessarily belong. What did that win mean, not only for you, but really for schools that maybe don't get the kind of attention that your school at the time did, it has since, and what you're currently doing at a much bigger school?
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Coach Willie Fritz
Well, obviously, it was a huge win for, you know, the university, you know, Tulane University, Huge win for the football program. And, you know, any given Saturday. Right. You know, there's. I know there's a movie any given Sunday. It applies to Saturday, too. And, you know, we went out. I don't even know if we played our best game, but we kept, you know, chopping wood the whole ball game and came down the very end and guys made plays when they needed to. And, you know, it was a. It was a huge win for. For the city of New Orleans, too. That was a big win. So, yeah, that's. That's one of the bigger wins that we've had and all the different stops that we've made and. And it was special, certainly was, in
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Paul Feinbaum
terms of how it affected you. Your name has always been out there. You don't, you know, go to as many places as you have been, but that one puts you in a different stratosphere. And you had to make a tough choice at some point to leave where you were.
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Mike Golick Sr.
Which.
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Paul Feinbaum
Which is which, you know, thanks to a lot of the work that you and others had done, you know, put. Put that program back on the football map again. How difficult was it to walk away, to go. To go to the Big 12, to go to a big place like Houston, which has had periodic success over the years?
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Coach Willie Fritz
It was difficult. It's very difficult. We love. We loved our time in New Orleans just like we did at Statesboro and in Huntsville, Texas. I was just in an event up there Saturday and had a bunch of my former players added as well. So, you know, Central Missouri and Blinn Junior College, we loved them all. My past been a little bit different, you know, going from junior college to D2 to 1, double A to, you know, group of, whatever it is now, I guess six, you know, in power four football and, you know, but I wouldn't change it for anything. It's been very, very enjoyable. And probably the main reason why I wanted to come to the University of Houston, besides my two daughters living here in town, was, you know, I wanted to prove I could do it at the. At the power four level. And this plan works at that level. As well. And I just think Houston is a sleeping giant. I really believe that with, you know, our location and we've got unbelievable facilities. We just got into a brand new football operations center here just 11 and a half months ago. So it's, it's, it's a great time to be here at U of H. And I'm really fortunate to have this
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Paul Feinbaum
job coach Willie Fritz with us. You mentioned recruiting a minute ago and pretty good place to be from a recruiting standpoint. I mean, I know that we focus so much on other things in college sports now, but talk about that aspect of it, you know, in the state of Texas, where you could spend all day in the next couple of days recruiting, but just that the infrastructure of a bunch of great high school coaches as well.
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Coach Willie Fritz
Yeah, I learned my lesson years ago about recruiting guys from far away to come and play to your school. So it's one of the reasons why I haven't had to, you know, get on a plane to go recruit. You know, we really try to, you know, limit our scope of recruiting to, you know, the, the Houston area, the state of Texas. We get into Louisiana. I've got a lot of strong ties over there, the state of Louisiana, from the eight years that we were at Tulane. So it's all drivable distances. And it's also helped us with the portal. You know, sometimes kids go far away. I think the grass is greener someplace else and they find out it's only green and they want to come back home. So we've got a lot of kids on the back, on the bounce back from the portal as well. So this is a prime location for high school football, is very well coached here in the state of Texas. Also, Louisiana has got great coaches as well, so we're really fortunate to be able to recruit in this area.
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Paul Feinbaum
Coach, I am curious about your view of the game because you've, you've been, you've played in championships at so many different levels and now college football is going. I'm not sure it's a new thing, but it's quite, it's quite a metamorphosis in terms of where it is and where it could be going with playoff expansion. Just where are you on that in terms of how it affects a program like yours and a league like yours in the Big 12?
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Coach Willie Fritz
You know, I'm probably going to give you an answer that's not very good, but I kind of. Other people are kind of in charge of making those decisions and, you know, my opinion probably isn't going to amount To a whole, whole bunch when they. When they are thinking about how they're going to do things, I just try to follow the. Whatever is laid out there to the best of my ability and not spend a whole lot of time thinking about it. I'd love to see us go to 24. I think our league, the Big 12, which I think is a fantastic league, really good from top to bottom, would also like to. To go to 24. I think a lot of the conferences would, but, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on right now. There's a lot of. I thought we were ready to jump into fall camp, and then some stuff happened this, you know, last few days, and we'll see how that all shakes out here in the next couple days. As far as five for five and the people who graduated and entered college in the year of 2022. So just when they go ahead and make these rules and they. I just try to adapt as quickly as I can to these new rules. And so it's going to be interesting to see what happens here in the next few days.
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Paul Feinbaum
The off season is pretty brutal in college football, but. But now that you are at this moment in time, are you able just to. As you said, that's somebody else's problem right now. You're. You're a football coach.
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Coach Willie Fritz
That's what I try to do. You know, there's. Sometimes I got to address new issues that come up, but, yeah, this is my favorite time of year, as I said before, because I get to work with everybody on the team. And, you know, I, you know, when I was a head coach at Bland Junior College, it was me and two other guys, and then we did everything. We were the, you know, we lined the fields, we washed the jocks. We, you know, did everything. We checked classes, we taught classes and. But the real reason that I got into is that two hours a day that I get to go out there in the field and coach our guys. So, yeah, I'm excited about the start of football, and I think my coaches are excited about it. And, you know, the day that I want to stay on vacation, that probably means I need to get out of the game after about three or four days. I'm chomping at the bit to get back after it. So we're very, very excited about the 2026 season.
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Paul Feinbaum
Well, Coach, good luck. I know it's a very exciting time and a lot of high hopes for Houston. Coach, best of luck and thanks for making time for us. It was great for us to be able to meet you again.
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Coach Willie Fritz
Thank you for having me on the show. Go Cougs.
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Paul Feinbaum
You bet. Houston Cougars expected to be a top 25 team this year. Willie Fritz, the Houston head coach, as we take a break here, more of your phone calls right after this.
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Paul Feinbaum
You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum Show Podcast Sec now. Coming up tonight right after the show updates you on all the camps that are opening or about to open. And Vance is up next. Good afternoon, Vance.
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Caller Vance
Hey Paul. You know, I try to get out of this habit even though I do it occasionally and I have been fired in the past by the way, and I learned my lesson of things to say and not to say. But I'm wondering, why was that three to four minutes of that major malfunction? Tony's call. Why was I not spared the poisonous barbs of that if he wants to know the rest of the story, it's simple, it sucked. Did he think that was going to be clever and the audience would be wowed by that? Paul, I mean, what's your opinion? You hear it?
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Paul Feinbaum
I mean, Vance, I really didn't have a strong opinion of a guy who. Who calls up pretending to compliment somebody and then does some investigation and finds out that someplace that I was at a month ago has entertained all these different venues. Like I. Like I. Like I knew that, or frankly, like I really care that it just doesn't matter to me what they do there. I was there for about an hour. I popped in, I left. I went back to the airport. I never gave it. I mean, if the place had burned down 10 minutes later, I wouldn't have known. And it, I mean, sadly, probably wouldn't have affected me very much because I wouldn't have been there.
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Caller Vance
Hell, I wouldn't care if ISIS took them all over it. It was irrelevant.
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Paul Feinbaum
It really was. But I appreciate the fact that Tony had such bitterness in his heart and such venom directed at me, you, and the whole show that he would spend all that time researching something that nobody cared about.
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Caller Vance
Well, is there a chance I know that I'll be the first one to receive it, and probably deservedly so. But I'm sitting here listening to this and I'm like, I'm shaking. I'm going, stop. Stop the madness. And I'm like, where's the gong? Where's the gong? Gong. Some bitch. Get rid of it. But I. Well, you know, he's just another. We got too many good callers on this show for that crap. But, I mean.
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Paul Feinbaum
I mean, there's only one other person that I'm. I'm aware of who could have concocted something that evil. And I'll just let it sit there for a moment.
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Caller Vance
Oh, does he live in Missouri?
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Caller John
No.
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Paul Feinbaum
No, I don't.
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Coach Willie Fritz
He's not.
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Paul Feinbaum
That guy's not that smart.
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Caller Vance
Oh, I. I know who you're talking about. And I. Believe me, I got fired a couple of times for speaking of that. So I'm just not going to do it. I'm not going to do it, and I'm going to adopt the attitude or that. The famous saying of alciraldo. I'm really not going to talk about college football until toe meets leather, because we already know everything. Now it's only time to play, even though it's my favorite subject. And I will never blame anyone for loving their school and their team. I'm done let's just start playing ball and then we'll talk about it. That's how I feel, my friend. Sorry to be a downer about Tony.
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Paul Feinbaum
Well, no, listen. I mean, you just have to learn to laugh at stuff like that. Vance and I tried, Paul.
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Caller Vance
I laugh at lots of things, but, hell, I thought I was gonna have to sprint to the toilet. I mean, it was laughter coming out the wrong end listening to that guy.
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Paul Feinbaum
Well, the funniest thing is that he did. He believed that it was a funny, clever call when almost everyone watching and listening was either laughing at him or feeling sorry for the rest of us for having to be subjected. Hey, thanks for the call. Chris is. Chris is up next in South Carolina.
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Caller Vance
Oh, how you doing on this? Good day, my man, and I hope you let me get through this call. But first off, Tony is an idiot. He went hilarious. It wasn't funny. He wasn't even funny. He's a dumbass. Every time he get on Paul. And I hope you let me bring up my next topic, because I want you to understand that even though I don't dislike this guy a lot, even though I pick fun in this guy, I'm rooting for this guy, and I really want the best for this guy, and that's the legend. But I'm. I'm not saying he did anything wrong, Paul. And I'm not trying to speak on him because I don't even know the facts. But I want to bring it up because it seemed like everybody else just want to tiptoe around it. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful. And I try to say anything or stir. Not enough, but I'm just gonna get to it.
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Caller John
Paul.
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Caller Vance
I. I really don't care what happened. And I. I see a lot of his media sitting there taking up for him. Legend haven't said anything. He. He hasn't said anything. But I wanted the man to take off. But sometimes in this life, it's not about getting your egos in the way. If somebody tell you something, even if you have. You're in a place you have the right to be, but not doing what you're supposed to do. If somebody come tell you something or ask you to stop doing it, don't have an ego. Just step out of the way, step back, take a sacrifice, and that way you did the last thing you want to do. The last thing you want to do. Paul, if you got a dream that you want to do something, that you want to sit here, this is what you want to do. No, it's not about money. It's about because you want and you love it and you want the people hear your voice. When somebody get on to you, don't sit there and get upset and say, I'm gonna get a lord because they ain't gonna never deal with you again. Just take it on the chance sometime sit back and then go to the next day. Take advantage of your next opportunity for everybody that's defending them. Like I said, I wanted a man win, I'm rooting for you. If you're a real fanbomb called, if you're a real fan of this show, you won't legend to win. You won't let you to be on tv because that's giving all of us hope, that's giving all of something to be proud in. But I want you to put all this effort into somebody. They ain't got an ego, they ain't got a big ass head like he does. And maybe it will have work, Paul, and you might get mad at me for saying that, but I'm done today. But if anybody else got an opinion about it, call me and talk about it. If there's anybody else, we'll be talking about it. But just because it's him, we ain't saying nothing. Why is that, Paul? Have a nice day.
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Paul Feinbaum
Well, one thing I'll say about that, and I addressed it a couple of days ago and I'll say it again, nobody here is censoring anyone on any subject. So it's not us to, it's not up to us to discuss it. Anybody that would like to talk about him or what they think happened or what is going to happen, they're welcome to it. So I just want that to be clear. I mean, Chris made it sound like nobody, nobody's really talking about it. Well, everybody has the right to talk about any subject here that they choose to. Let's check in with Tim in Arkansas. Hey, Tim, go right ahead.
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Caller Vance
Well, hey Paul, I'm trying to make it real quick, but bear with me. Now, earlier in your program, you, you were talking to somebody about the state of the ncaa and you said, these are your words, not mine, that they're going out of existence. Now, last week I called you and I asked you what would happen if the SEC SCC left the ncaa. Well, it's hard to say. And went independent. He said you don't, you said snappily. He said, you don't have to worry about that. It's never going to happen. Now one of the two is going to happen, and I don't know who the head's going to be like the head of the five families, former commission, but something's going to happen, Paul, and that's what I want to hear from you.
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Paul Feinbaum
Jim, thanks for the call. Listen, I was talking Generally speaking, I don't think the NCAA has much power left or life. They may be around a while. The case that was brought up about Carter is really a one off. The NCAA doesn't do that very often and I didn't really think it was worth a lot of anger to level as far as whether the SEC or the Big Ten or anybody is leaving the NCAA immediately. They're not, but there will at some point be a new infrastructure deeming the NCAA even more irrelevant than it currently is. Why don't we take a break? We have a special guest. More special guest coming up here in a minute. Mike Golig Jr. He's back on ESPN radio and he will join us next.
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Paul Feinbaum
You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum Show Podcast. And welcome back.
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Caller Vance
As
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Paul Feinbaum
this debuted today on ESPN Radio, that gentleman there is the legendary Mike Golick Sr. That's his equally legendary son. They're back on ESPN Radio. A lot of people are, like, shaking their heads over this, but my greatest never give radio executives too much credit for making a dumb decision or correcting it much, much later with the right decision. How are you doing?
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Mike Golick Sr.
I'm doing well, Paul. Glad to be back on the same team with you. Certainly glad to be back on the show with you. And it was a fun one today. I mean, like, you came up doing a lot of radio and have really missed it. So fun to be back.
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Paul Feinbaum
And, I mean, I've done your show after you left, but it's an old story because you've been doing it for some time now. But I think every young kid, I'm sure, dreams of working with their own man, but you've had quite a run at it, and now a last hurrah. What has this whole experience been like to. To, to. To go with him along the way? You certainly were on your own for a while and, and, and, and have created quite a following as well when you were originally at espm. But describe working with, with the old geyser.
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Mike Golick Sr.
Yeah, you know, it. It's had so many different facets to it, which have been really fun. You know, early in my time when I started at espn, I was so fortunate to be there, and he was such a massive part of why. But then to get chances to work with him on air, I had the benefit of all his years of experience. He was so gifted at setting me up and putting me in positions on air to succeed because he knew my strengths and weaknesses. Now, we've gotten to a point where that cuts both ways, and I know the stories Dad's going to tell before he gets to him. I know the stuff that I can get him on that's going to rile him up a little bit. And we can play off a lot of those differences that come with, you know, being a father and son on air together. I, I thought the last time around when dad was doing Golic and Wingo with Trey Wingo, I got to be the third chair on that show. And as it was wrapping up, we got a lot of notes from people that listen to the show, that watch the show who said, hey, I'm a father who works with my son, or I'm a Son who works with my mom or a parent and child in any combination, who said, I see a lot of our relationship in you guys. I like getting to listen to you because it reminds me of my relationship with my parent and my child. And, and that's great until you got to help dad remember every password in his phone. Turn on even the most simple of technological items every day as you do a show remote or together, it doesn't matter. So there's all the fun moments baked into that of getting to do it with, you know, someone who I've known for 37 years who quite literally wiped my butt. I don't know how many other sports talk partners can ever lay claim to that fact, but having to help him all, with all the IT stuff on the back end feels like my penance for all the help he gave me early in life.
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Paul Feinbaum
I, I'm glad you said it because I really thought your dad just, just, that was just. He was just a great character actor and he acted like he didn't know anything. I didn't realize that was actually the way he is.
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Mike Golick Sr.
No, Paul, it. It could not be more spot on. My dad is a simple man. He is what you see is what you get. And he decided a long time ago. He did all his work in the gridiron. He did his grid on ESPN Radio 2 radio hall of Fames. He doesn't have to learn anything new. He has said he has opted out of learning new things. And that is offloaded onto me, my siblings, and my poor, poor mother.
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Paul Feinbaum
Okay. I have a friend who surprised me the other day and he told me that he still uses a flip phone. So what. How, how antiquated is Mike Senior when it comes to just everyday things that most of us take for granted?
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Mike Golick Sr.
Oh, Paul, I'll never forget. You know, I've been fortunate to call college football games as well. Dad did that for years. He calls NFL games on Westwood One still. And I remember I always used to give him grief because my dad took all his notes on paper and would keep them in a physical filing cabinet. He would also then, once he graduated to a computer, type out the notes on the computer, print them off, put them into the filing cabinet, and then wait for it. He would delete the files off his computer. So he would type them out. He would put them into a physical filing cabinet and then delete them off the infinitely larger filing cabinet digitally on his computer. I always thought that was ridiculous. Then when I put all my notes onto the computer while I was at espn, saved it to their cloud and then promptly left the company. I couldn't access those anymore when I went back to call a game of a team I had already done and, and so he got the last laugh in having access to all of his notes while I was wandering out here having to redo everything. So that was probably the most antiquated, ridiculous thing that he did that somehow still made him look right in the end.
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Paul Feinbaum
Does he still have the filing cabinets
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Caller Vance
at home or wherever?
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Mike Golick Sr.
I'm sure he doesn't even know where those are now either. Like again, that's, that all falls on my mom to do this now. The guy the other day, they're rolling through the drive thru, Paul, and you know this, the drive thru. You're there to go fast, you're trying to move. Everyone's on a schedule. My dad pulls out cash and hands it to the guy at the drive thru window. Like what's he supposed to do with that? It's probably some 17 year old kid who's never had to make change in his life and everyone has to wait because my dad can't be bothered to just pull out and tap his card like everyone else.
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Paul Feinbaum
Talking to Mike. Go Mike. I want to talk about something you, you, you prompted me on. You mentioned your mom and I remember getting a note from her. I, I, I had been on Mike and Mike one day unloading on Brian Kelly at Notre Dame and rarely did I get a compliment. But she did it surreptitiously. But she said, you're on the right track and I know nobody takes or should take pleasure in somebody else's fall, but I am curious about your thoughts on Kelly's failing at lsu.
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Mike Golick Sr.
You know, I was genuinely surprised, Paul, because listen, people can have a lot of things, my mother included, to say about Brian Kelly and his tenure over the years, but the guy could coach and lifted Notre Dame out of a place where it had been stuck for a while back into being a consistent contender in the sport at the end of my time and then through the rest of his tenure at Notre Dame and I always thought was really gifted at the CEO portion of things, of coming in, understanding where his feet are, what the resources allow for there. Because as we know, coming from Grand Valley State to Central Michigan to Cincinnati to Notre Dame, different resources at each of those spots and had found a way to make it work. And at lsu we know the talent is so rich, the investment in that football program is so deep that I figured going into there he'd be able to do what the last three coaches had done successfully, which is win at a high level and have a shot in a national championship. So I was stunned. But it also speaks to, hey, just how difficult the changes in the sport overall were for a lot of people to weather. And I think we've seen in some instances, you know, the Kirby Smarts of the world have been able to be successful no matter what. But when you look at a lot of the younger coaches that have really positioned themselves well at the top of the sport, they've really navigated this new age, maybe because they had less time under task in the old way of doing things and thus were able to kind of pivot a little quicker.
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Paul Feinbaum
Mike, nobody is sleeping on Marcus Freeman. We know what he's capable of, having played for the title and not getting back to the playoffs last year for all kinds of reasons, which Notre Dame fans refuse to accept. But what about this year? I mean, it just feels like everybody's obsessing over Texas and Ohio State, maybe even Oregon. But there's Notre Dame and there'll be a top five, maybe higher team when it all begins.
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Mike Golick Sr.
Yeah, you know, I think Notre Dame has been rightly grouped in with that bunch of teams loaded up with returning production, which I know a lot of people didn't think we'd get to see in this day and age of name, image and likeness in the transfer portal. But we've reached sort of a stasis where a lot of these teams now have the money to keep guys who maybe would have been mid round NFL guys long enough for these sort of super rosters to stay together. So I think it's twofold, Paul. With Notre Dame, one, you've got so much returning production on defense with I think eight or nine of their top 10 tacklers from last year. Increased depth along the defensive, defensive front. You know this better than Anyone, Paul. The SEC's hallmark for years had been depth along the lines of scrimmage in a way that was uncommon to their peers. Notre Dame, I believe now is playing in that tax bracket, not just in terms of high end talent, but in terms of the ways of the guys they can roll through. And then like the other teams that you just mentioned, they've got a returning answer to the test at quarterback. And C.J. carr, who's going to have to shoulder more of the load this year because Jadari and Price and Jeremiah Love, two first round running backs, don't live in South Bend anymore, but they've got a new cavalcade of wide receivers in there, some good returning production with guys like Jaden Greathouse and and Jordan Faison. But also I think they have the schedule that you put up here that's going to allow them the time to develop. Last year it was straight out of the gate with Miami and Texas A and M. This year, it's not to disrespect a bunch of the Big Ten heavy teams on the way in some of the SEC schedule, but the meat of Notre Dame schedule, at least on paper, starts October 17th and works through November 7th at Miami. You've got the late November charge against SMU. That's when you're supposed to be peaking as a football team. That's when you're designed to play your best football football. And so I think it gives them a really good chance to be firing on all cylinders and to get those important wins heading into November when we start doing playoff rankings.
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Paul Feinbaum
Mike Golick, you can hear he and dad every morning on ESPN Radio. Mike, great to see you. All the best with the new show. Can't wait to talk to you very soon again as we head to the break. There it is, Golic and Golic. The Golics on ESPN Radio.
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Mike Golick Sr.
We'll be right back.
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Paul Feinbaum
You're listening to the Paul Feinbaum Show Podcast. Welcome back as we continue here and John is up next in Louisville. Hey, John.
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Caller John
Good afternoon, Paul. And so pick today's highlight. Was it Chris, long winded life lesson for a legend or the other story with Tony as he showed he's really not that clever or funny and obviously obsessed with you. Bottom line, Tony seems to be a miserable, sarcastic troll. And now Paul, you know the rest of Tony's story. Great.
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Paul Feinbaum
Yeah, I do. I mean, I've had people encouraging me to have him arrested for stalking, but I think that would, I think he would be, I think that would be a good ending for him. I'm going to let him stay on the streets.
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Caller John
I think there's a restraining order waiting to happen. So, Paul, it was nice to hear the voice of Mike Golick Jr. Who sounds much like his dad, but yes. And by the way, Paul, I miss the old days with Mike and Mike. Paul, does it sound like with the new show, Junior is going to be assuming the role played by Greenberg?
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Paul Feinbaum
Well, I've been on Golick and Goick's show after they left espn. It's a little different. I mean, Greenberg was such a radio operator. I mean, I think Golach junior Is good in that role. But there will never be another Mike Greenberg.
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Caller John
No, not at all. And finally, Paul, I found it rich that Mississippi is suing two former players for breaching their nil contracts when they filed Kiffin to lsu. While at the same time you have your head coach poaching a Clemson player not in the transfer portal and enrolled in attending classes. Would you agree that is hypocrisy at its best?
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Paul Feinbaum
Yeah, it's a combination of hypocrisy and chutzpah and I think it's a little bit of both.
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Caller John
Great show, Paul. Enjoyed the interview with Willie Fritz. He's like your old time, down to earth coach. It was a great interview.
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Paul Feinbaum
Yeah, I was impressed by him. I didn't know him at all. Hey, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Let's check in with Travis up next in Alabama. Hello, Travis.
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Caller Vance
Yes, Paul. How are you doing this Monday?
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Paul Feinbaum
We are doing great.
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Caller John
Yes.
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Caller Vance
My question is, do you think Lane Kiffin at LSU is in his best job that he's had in order to get a national championship. And my next question is, do you think that, I mean, as an Alabama fan, I'm going to miss the Alabama LSU game played every year. Do you think that the SEC should have kept that game instead of replacing it with the Mississippi State game? Because I think the LSU game is a bigger rivalry game than the Mississippi State game.
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Paul Feinbaum
Yeah. Thank you.
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Caller Vance
Yeah.
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Paul Feinbaum
Everyone knows how important the LSU Alabama game. Thanks for the call, by the way. It has been, I would say, since Saban returned in 2007, that has been the biggest game of the year in the sec. You have to make a decision. And I remember being on that part of that program last September talking to various people at the sec. They used all kinds of power ratings. They just didn't say, hey, Alabama, LSU is a better game than Mississippi State. Alabama, of course it is. Everyone knows that. But remember, Alabama has an annual rivalry with Tennessee. It's the oldest rivalry for Alabama and for Tennessee, they gave them the Auburn game, which is in many ways the most important rivalry of the last 50 years in the SEC. So they couldn't get just, okay, let's on top of Tennessee and Auburn. Let's, let's make Alabama play lsu. So LSU lost. Not only Alabama, but they lost Florida. Those were probably the two biggest games on their schedule every year. So a lot went into that. I get where you are, but everybody will play everybody in a relatively short period of time. But something had to go in this new nine game schedule. Let's check out Forest up next in South Carolina. Hello, Forest.
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Caller Vance
Hey, Paul. Longtime reader, listener watcher, and now caller.
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Paul Feinbaum
Thank you.
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Caller Vance
I just want to thank you for giving us this platform to talk about. Talk freedom of speech, baby.
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Paul Feinbaum
Thank you very much.
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Caller Vance
You know, Clinton, Chris, he. He needs to add some sustenance to his substance. It must be hard these days to be a Clemson fan. I understand why he's such a grouch right now. I think everyone just needs to leave legend alone. Let the legend live like the legend lives hard, fast and to the point. And I'd like to start a new club, the Daft Club that Clemson Chris and AJ from Pale City are co presidents of. Y' all can get the Daft Club. Membership fees are zero. And Bash, man, you keep on keeping on.
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Paul Feinbaum
Hey, thank you for the call for us. We are up against the break. We are halfway home on a Monday. Thank you for listening to the best of the Paul Feinbaum show podcast. Watch the Paul Feinbaum show weekdays from 3 to 7 Eastern on the SEC Network. Plus you can listen and watch on the ESPN app. You know, when you're locked in, focused and fearless. Welcome to the wnba.
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Mike Golick Sr.
Your vision narrows.
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Caller Vance
You can't look away.
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Mike Golick Sr.
Three from beyond the logo.
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Caller Vance
You bet.
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All of it.
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Caller Vance
Right here.
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Paul Feinbaum
Lock in.
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