The Thought Crime Syndicate Complete (So Far) w/ Bonus - Part 1

Summary

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The Pete Quiñones Show

Episode: The Thought Crime Syndicate Complete (So Far) w/ Bonus - Part 1
Host: Pete Quiñones
Guests: 'Dark Enlightenment (D.E.)', Charles Spadiel, Jose Niño
Date: August 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this marathon installment, Pete Quiñones reunites the “Thought Crime Syndicate”—himself, D.E., Charles, and Jose—for a wide-ranging, high-energy panel covering recent headlines, ideological drift in the West, the ongoing “competency crisis”, ethno-politics, institutional collapse, the news cycle around Israel and Gaza, and deep readings on Jewish power and its role in postwar America. With their characteristic irreverence, the group offers bleak but incisive analysis, weaving in history, personal anecdotes, and open speculation, while referencing a web of dissident literature. Key themes are the inability (or unwillingness) of mainstream conservatism to confront root realities, the terminal consequences of open borders, and the way social technologies—especially social media—are destabilizing “the Narrative.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Border Crisis as Political Farce and Demographic Weapon

• Infrastructure Overload: From Texas to Arizona, the hosts argue mass immigration—enabled by “decades of bipartisan negligence”—is driving American infrastructure to collapse, citing overwhelmed schools, crowded hospitals, and high car insurance premiums due to uninsured drivers.
  • "Texas's roads, Texas's hospitals, Arizona's roads... all gonna fall apart because of illegal immigration." (B, 01:49)
• Political Cowardice: GOP politicians are said to lean on “election year stunts,” with little political will for meaningful reform.
  • "Why has Greg Abbott only now acted? Maybe someone has dirt on him, maybe it's just an election-year stunt." (B, 03:11)
• Historical Perspective: The crisis is cast in a decades-long context, citing Jan Brewer, Proposition 187 (California), and longstanding restrictionist sentiment.
  • "Proposition 187 in California in the '90s—California voted not to give illegal immigrants access to the public fisc, and of course, a federal judge overturned it." (B, 01:48)

Notable Quote:

"America had stopped being a country and started being a strip mall. Everybody was coming to shop, get their goodies, and go home. I'm not against illegal immigration. I'm against all immigration."
— D (03:35)

2. Institutional Collapse and the Competency Crisis

• "Everything’s Held Together by Hope and Bailing Wire": From car manufacturing (Boeing) to public transit, guests argue that “DEI”-driven staffing, open borders, and mass social deregulation are corroding standards needed for modern civilization.
  • "How are suburbs outside Houston gonna survive when highways, trucks, and stores all break down?" (B, 78:34)
• Planes and Pilots: Alarming anecdotes about reduced requirements for pilots and potential for catastrophic airline failures, blaming both DEI and a declining pool of skilled white men.
  • "They are letting people into the captain's chair with 500 hours flying time at major US airlines." (B, 407:12)
• Public Disorder: The panel notes a societal inability to enforce order—be it disease outbreaks, infrastructure, or the right to local autonomy, like the secession of St. George, Louisiana.

Notable Quote:

"If you don't have autistic white guys running things, you don't get roads, you don't get bridges, you don't get running water."
— D (80:02)

3. The “Feminization” and Infantilization of the West

• Longhouse Thesis: Several panelists assert that the feminization of Western institutions, driven by overwhelming female participation and values, has replaced the “battlefield” needed for masculine competence with a universal “nest.”
  • "Women turn everything into a nest. Nest is good, but a battlefield can't be a nest." (D, 193:03)
• Pathologies of Single Women: Discussion on childless millennial women, the consequences of feminism, and societal decline ("rage of the empty womb").
  • "Empty egg carton, Borderline Personality Disorder, can't cook... I'm gonna shop somewhere else." (B, 67:11)
• Failure of Social Technology: Social media is a double-edged sword—while accelerating the collapse of consensus, it also provides a way for people to “notice” abusive societal patterns.

Notable Quote:

"Modern society values psychopathic traits and favors the upward mobility of psychopaths."
— Loren G., "Israel: The Psychopathic Nation" (Read by C, 253:45)

4. The “Jewish Question”: Power, Narrative, Double Standards

• Deep Read: 'Israel: The Psychopathic Nation' (Timestamps 220:44–332:08)
  • Pete reads and the panel breaks down Lorén G.‘s essay, applying its thesis to both individual and institutional Jewish behavior, as explained historically and in contemporary geopolitics.
  • Psychoanalysis, references to Freud and Jewish perception of universal victimhood, and the elite manipulation of guilt/victim narratives, with extensive direct quotes.
    • "The psychopath has no ability to question, no limits to appetite for power, and no remorse about leading humanity into ruin..." (C, 316:44)
• Media Control and Narrative Monopoly:
  • "If you want to live in a functioning society... spread good information. Bad information drives out good information." (B, 111:23)
• Debate Censorship: Guests note that even self-identified “anti-Israel” voices in mainstream debates are only kosher (“Dave Smith, Norman Finkelstein—never someone like TRS, Occidental Observer...”). (A, 435:26)
• Exclusivity and Assimilation: Jewish mainstream remains fundamentally “alien,” never assimilating, always gatekeeping who gets to join—even when it comes to hosting debates about America’s foreign policy.

Notable Quotes:

"As long as you're taking my tax money, as long as your people are permitted to live in my country and bilk it for millions of dollars every year... why do you get to set the terms of debate?" — B (439:39)

"They control the narrative so much—even when you try to participate, it's considered a blood libel to just describe their behavior." — C (456:36)

5. Political Solutions & Localism

• Balkanization is Inevitable: St. George/Baton Rouge is cited as a model move towards local control and real separation, but guests warn that unless reinforced ("fortified"), second-order disagreements will turn violent.
  • "Second-order disagreements: no debate, no argument. All you have to do is separate. Otherwise violence follows." (D, 394:35)
• Mainstream Conservatism is Toothless: The consensus is that conservatism is merely liberalism with drag; real solutions require full disengagement and new local power structures.
  • "You have to gatekeep the hell out of it. You have to say, we don't care what the Civil Rights Act says..." (C, 498:53)
• No Political Solution: On “inevitability” of conflict, returning to foundational principles, and the decline of the “beautiful loser” as the fate of morally right but institutionally powerless traditionalists.

Notable Quotes:

"The longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be."
— D (66:33)

"Support the people that don't hate you. If you listen to Glenn Beck, get them to Tucker Carlson. From Tucker, to Oren. Take them one step further."
— B (543:57)

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Memorable Moments & Selected Quotes (with Timestamps)

On The Long-Running Immigration Crisis

• "Jan Brewer tried to do something, but the truth is Texas's hospitals, schools, roads—this is all going to collapse. All because of illegal immigration." — B (01:49)
• "I’ve been calling for a 40-year moratorium on all immigration since 2014." — D (03:35)

On Jewish-American Political Strategy

• "They destroyed America, destroyed Europe, destroyed Canada—and expect their little colonial project to still be strong even though all the supports were undermined and rotted out." — B (241:49)
• "Prager says antisemitism is unique because everyone wants Jews dead. Why not ever ask 'Why'?" — C/D (444:24–444:50)
• "If you're going to take my money, got no gratitude, and are behind everything that's wrong in our society—when I bring it up, I'm the problem?" — B (450:27)

On Institutional Collapse/Competence

• "Autistic white dudes need to have a ton of them to do this stuff. He's why you have food, he's why you have electricity. Lie back and think of civilization." — D (80:02)
• "How can you come to an agreement if you don't even know what any of the words mean that the other person is saying? Second order disagreement—violence follows." — D (394:37)

On Narrative & Information War

• "Bad info drives out good. The most important thing you can do is spread good information." — B (111:23)
• "If I get away from Dennis Prager and say, you go live in Brooklyn, you're not welcome here, I'm the bad guy? This cannot continue." — B (517:55)
• "I believe them when they say it. That's how antisemitic I am. I just disagree. That makes me an antisemite? Go fuck yourselves." — C (515:38)

On Localism & Solutions

• "Populism is useless. There's only one way out—doing what St. George did, building your own community and defending it." — C (498:53)
• "Balkanization is already happening; other groups don't care about your rules. Take a lesson from how they keep outsiders out." — D (506:45)
• "The longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be." — D (66:33)

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Important Timestamps for Key Segments

• Border Crisis & Immigration Moratorium
  00:35 – 12:28

• Infrastructure/Competency Crisis & Feminization
  80:02 – 99:50

• The Jewish Question and 'Israel: Psychopathic Nation' Deep Read
  220:44 – 332:08

• Collapse of Conservatism & Second-Order Disagreements
  393:13 – 404:23

• St. George Secession/Localism
  386:46 – 399:45

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Style & Tone

• Candid, irreverent, combative: The podcast is unfiltered, open to extreme ideas, and spares no sacred cows.
• Dense with references: The discussion pulls from dissident literature, policy, personal memories, and online subcultures.
• Bleak but energetic: The hosts see civilization as doomed in its current form but show enthusiasm for “building anew”—localism, new narratives, new communities.
• Humorous, self-aware: The panel often jokes about their own autism, tics, or rehashing well-worn themes (“I know I sound crazy, but...”), and acknowledge the likely institutional consequences of their speech.

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Closing Recommendations

• Support honest voices: All panelists encourage listeners to financially and socially support independent journalists, writers, and podcasters “who don’t hate you.”
• Invest in local community and skills: As institutions degrade, your immediate surroundings and self-reliance will become paramount.
• Push the narrative: Move those around you “one step further”—from mainstream info to more dissident, revisionist perspectives.
• Prepare for profound, possibly chaotic change: Whether you lean blackpill or whitepill, acknowledge the scale and inevitability of coming realignments and act accordingly.

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[End of Part 1]

(Note: This is a partial summary of a multi-hour, multi-part episode; future installments will address more specific segments as requested.)

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

I want to welcome everyone back to the Picanono show. I mean, that's it. There's probably not going to be much order left to the rest of this. I think every. On behalf of myself and the guests, we want to say happy Steve Saylor month. And you know, we'll, we'll go from there. How you guys doing?

[D]

We're good, Very well.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[D]

I'm doing great.

[C]

So. Yeah, you know, let's start with De. You were talking about how you've been, you've been following what's going on down on the border pretty hard.

[B]

A little bit, yeah. I mean, I, I don't live in that area, but I've been following it with interest. And I gotta say, like, all credit to Greg A.B. for finally doing something. But this has been going on for years. Why have they not, you know, they stole the election in Arizona for governor. Katie Hobbs, you know, was the Secretary of State and you know, the election was stolen using, you know, illegal Mexican or let me rephrase that, we are on YouTube. Allegedly. You know, people will say that the election was stolen using this sort of thing and, and Carrie Lake, God bless her, you know, has fought hard on this stuff. But I'm old enough to remember. Pete, you probably remember too, when Jan Brewer back in the Obama administration, when she was governor of Arizona, like tried to do something about this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, and the truth is, right, that Texas is public schools, Texas's roads, Texas's hospitals, Arizona's roads, Arizona's hospitals, you know, and I'm the infrastructure nerd. So I'm going to talk about this for a second. Like they're all going to fall apart because of this massive amount of illegal immigration. That, that they're not, they're, they're working under the table, they're not paying taxes, they're not sufficiently high iq, most of them, to be a positive return on investment for the society that they live in, which is why they ran away from wherever they were from. And you know, geez, back even in, I mean, people talk about it, you know, now, but Proposition 187 in California in the 90s, even California, you know, like voted to not give illegal immigrants who were non citizens Access to the public fisc. And then of course, you know, a Saturday person federal judge overturned it. So like this has been an ongoing problem. In fact, this is kind of how I am. One of the things that got me into, you know, our sort of politics is paying attention to the border, reading VDARE and other stuff like that, you know, 20 odd years ago. And it's just been an ongoing disaster for, for years. So why is Greg Abbott, I mean, credit to him now for actually trying to do something? I guess maybe it's just an election year stunt. Who knows, you know, maybe somebody who wants something done about the border has pictures of him in a compromising situation. I don't know. But the fact that this is just now becoming an issue when it's been a real problem for 25 years. Oh, easy, longer.

[D]

I remember I started, I started my career with INS in 1998. That's when I went to FLETC, Federal Law Enforcement Academy in 1998. My IOBTC, that's where. That's where I was for four months. So this has been a problem for 98 to now is what, 26 years? 20. Yeah, 26 years. 26. 27. Somewhere around there, depending on how you want to measure. Yeah. So, I mean, I noticed that when I started working at the border, you know, I was mainly doing airports at the time, but I, I wasn't with immigration for six months and I'd already figured out America had stopped being a country and started being a strip mall. Everybody was coming here to shop, everybody was coming here to get their goodies and then go home. I'm not against illegal immigration. I'm against all immigration. I've been calling for a 40 year moratorium since. You want to roll my Twitter back, d. What, since 2014? 15. When did I start, like going hard for that? Like, like now? Yeah. Like I've been calling for a 40 year moratorium. So everything you're saying is 100% right. Remember the U.S. border Patrol had illegal immigration to basic. Okay, I'm going to use the phrase statistically zero. Obviously that's not literally zero, but it's statistically zero in 1952, 1953. How could we do it with, with 1950s technology, how can we seal the border? And now for some odd reason, walls stopped working? I mean, if we want to talk about things like that, I mean, I guess that opens a rabbit hole to a few other historical subjects that couldn't have been done with. But, but we'll just leave that aside.

[B]

Why are we paying For a wall in Israel between Israel.

[A]

Yeah, the $6 million question.

[D]

Yes, well said, Jose. Yeah, you know, on that note, D, real quick, you know, you talk about why are we paying for a wall for Israel and we don't get one. That's what just drives me mad about these evangelicals in the sense of like, didn't you read the, the Bible? Like, it said, Christ commanded you to love your neighbor as yourself, not love your neighbor more than yourself. You don't buy your neighbor a new car and a wall and you don't give yourself any of that. Like, I don't. I'm not even getting hard into scripture. I'm just like, I just read the one line. That's enough for me.

[C]

Jose's down in Texas. Let's find out what's going on.

[D]

Yeah, go ahead.

[A]

So I wanted to piggyback off a point that was raised about how this has been going on for a while. I remember when I got in the politics around 07 08, I was just perusing the archives of Chronicles magazine around, like 2008 or so, and there's one author that I've always liked there, one writer, Roger McGrath. He grew up in Southern California. He has to be now close to 80. So he's watched the total demographic transformation of California and he's documented it, too. He has one article that I think is titled Suicide by Legal Immigration. And he just like, talks about that. And he was even like, writing in the Bush era. I remember about how, like, a lot of parts of California just turn into like a war zone because of mass migration. He's just saying, like, why are we paying so much attention to what's going on in Iraq at the time and not paying attention to what's happening, like, actually in our country because of mass migration. Yeah. With respect to what's happening in Texas, it is kind of like too little too late. Because under Republicans watch, like, and they've like, dominated Texas politics now for like the better part of 40 years. The state has demographically transformed in an almost like, irreversible fashion. Like, you do like, at this juncture, like, you need like a 40 year immigration moratorium to like, have like a sensible, like, for like a sensible immigration restriction measure. And I would also call attention to the fact, like, I, I remember Charles was mentioning, like, infrastruct, that most of, like, Texas cities, like, the traffic is just so unbearable, whether you're like, in Austin, where I'm at, or Dallas and Houston. And I would posit that a lot of that is Owing to like, illegals like on the roads. There's just so many of them now that it's creating like, infrastructure bottlenecks and just total strain on public resources in the state that I just don't see how this is. Yeah.

[B]

So a couple of things about infrastructure in Texas because again, I'm a nerd and I know a lot of that stuff. The Houston metro area floods a lot. Not not only because it's on the Gulf and gets a lot of. It is the, the size of the state of Massachusetts. It is, it is a parking lot the size of the state of Massachusetts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is Houston metro. And I think he was with Cato. Randall Toole, libertarian. Like, he calls himself the anti planner, but he's absolutely hates, hates urban planning of any sort. And Texas has some of the fewest restrictions on property development anywhere in America, right? So Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, they can just sprawl out like crazy because Texas effectively has no rules stopping it. And of course, then you get, you know, a Walmart will be 3 acres, say, and the parking lot around the Walmart will be 15 acres.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And that'll happen everywhere. All around Houston, you've got three and four rings of suburbs. Right. Pretty soon they're like, you know, Houston suburbs are going to run into like, Dallas suburbs.

[A]

Yeah, Right.

[B]

Like Atlanta suburbs go into like, northern Alabama, eastern Tennessee and like far western South Carolina. Like, there are people who commute from all those places into, into Atlanta because Atlanta is so bad. And, and for all the same reasons. Right. The reason people drive, you know, three hours a day outside of Atlanta or outside of Houston, everyone knows why. It's, it's, it's Steve Sailor Month for a reason. And, and that's why.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So, you know, these have been problems in Texas for, as, you know, Jose said, you know, years, like Chronicles magazine is, you know, a venerable institution. It's a fantastic magazine. You should be reading it if you're not. But they've been talking about this Vide Air has been on, you know, the case for 20 years. And, you know, how can you have libraries? You know, I, I laugh a little bit when like, oh, the LA Times is bankrupt or they fired all the reporters. Well, of course they did. They imported, you know, what, 5 million people in Los Angeles who were coming from countries where everyone's illiterate. So of course, no one, of course Los Angeles Times is going out of business. You just replaced all the people who read with people who don't. What do you think was going to happen?

[D]

Well, weren't you the one telling me about car insurance too, D about the effects of illegals with the car insurance as well. No, I thought you were the one talking to me about that a while ago. Or was that somebody else that brought that up?

[B]

That might have been somebody else. But talk about it because like car insurance in Texas, car insurance California, anywhere. Actually, I forget who might have been the governor of Montana. We're all border states now. You've got illegal populations in every state in America. You got, you've got illegal Mexicans in Hawaii. Like, how does that even happen? It's a rock in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. And you have illegal farm workers in Hawaii.

[A]

I've heard about the car insurance thing too, from Canadian guy that lives in Vancouver. He says because of like the massive like influx of Asiatic immigration, there's, you can put two and two together. Why There's a, there's massive like premiums on car insurance there. But like, yeah, it's, it's brought about because of that. And he said like, and this is like predominantly legal migration, like, obviously because of like the nuances. A lot of China's, I mean Canada's immigration system, which actually is going to turn like Vancouver is going to turn into like the first like majority, like Asian, like metro area in the western hemisphere because of that.

[B]

But yeah, they call it Hong Koover.

[D]

Well, because it's all chain immigration.

[C]

I mean, anybody know what book this is?

[D]

I can't see it on my screen. What's that?

[C]

America Extinguished Mass Immigration and the Disintegration of American Culture by Samuel T. Francis. And this is basically a collection of his newspaper articles starting in October 2, 1998. And it just runs through. It's just, I mean it's packed. I mean it's a hundred and it's 200 pages of his article. So you can imagine each is three pages each. And all of these are on immigration. And you know, he just starts talking about, oh, this one's from May 26, 2000. New coalition is a well paid push for more immigration. And who does he mention? Grover Norquist. Anybody remember Grover Norquist?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh yeah, I remember Grover Norquist.

[A]

Have mercy. Yeah.

[C]

How about Norm, the guy who said,

[B]

I want to take strength government so small that I can generate in a bathtub, except when I want the government to like go kill people somewhere far away, you know, like then Raytheon. Right. Like, but, but you know, for just a second. And this is the thing that, that drives me crazy, is that our government will pretend there's nothing you can do, right? Well, if there's nothing you can do, why do you spend billions of dollars giving Israel money for walls? You know Ms. 13 is killing people in America in just outside of Washington, right? Yeah, just outside of Washington, in Northern Virginia, in Maryland, Ms. 13 is killing people, but in the land that Ms. 13 basically took over, right? In El Salvador 10 years ago, Ms. 13 was basically sovereign. And Nayib Bukele, God bless him, he is the greatest politician in the Western hemisphere. He might be the greatest politician alive today. He's the greatest statesman alive today. He solved the problem of MS.13 in three years. In three years. So don't tell me that you couldn't solve the problem in MS.13. Just take every dude with a face tattoo and be like, we're gonna at least take you in for questioning. If you got a gigantic 13 on your cheek and a bunch of teardrops down your right eye, I think that's probable cause. I think that's probable cause for at least ask you some questions about what you do on your Saturday evening.

[C]

Well, Governor, Governor, psychopath out there in California proved that you can clean up a city in what, two weeks.

[D]

Oh, absolutely, yeah. It's just absolutely Newsom. Absolutely.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It's just, it's just the will, that's all. All it is, the will. I mean, they have these guy. What was that, Jose?

[A]

No, just to add on, like, the Dominican Republic like, routinely deports, like, massive amounts of Haitians. So if it's like a, like a third world dumpster fire of a nation can, like, do that, then, like, the

[B]

Dominican Republic has a state command. Like the Dominican Republic, their main export is baseball players. And they somehow can still manage to

[D]

be like, right again.

[C]

It's just some really good resorts, too. So.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's simply a matter of political will, that's all. Like you said, you can clean up a whole city in a week. I mean, I was saying with the riots, I remember telling somebody that a mutual on Twitter. I was like, you give me three guys in a slow rolling squad car and a bunch of Remington shotguns loaded with birdshot and I'll clear the riots out in 10 minutes and I won't even get anybody killed. I'll just fire a couple, couple shells worth of bird shot into the crowd. That's it. A little bit of stinging and they'll clear. Loudspeaker. You are on this street illegally. After this time, you need to go home or you're going to be arrested. You'd be, you'd be amazed how Quickly things can clean up with just the will to do it. That that's all they just arrested for,

[B]

for this face act thing, this free access to the federal like ant like abortion care access or something. Act. They just arrested six guys who are protesting in front of an abortion clinic and they're all going to do like 10 years or something right? For, for peacefully protesting in front of an abortion clinic. So, so abortion has been returned to the states. This isn't even a federal thing anymore but because you know the case or whatever there. So the state wants to persecute pro lifers. The state wants to persecute January sixers. The state wants to persecute right wing white people. So it will do it. They don't want to persecute, you know, Ms. 13 so they don't. It, it's that simple.

[D]

It is that simple.

[B]

McIntyre had a great show recently. You know the purpose of the system is what it does. And our system takes money from productive people with families who are mostly white and gives it to non productive people who do not have families or who do not form families. They have children but no families. And, and that's what our system does. It gives money to single moms and you know, illegals and you know, people, you know, Steve Saylor month people in the inner cities and government workers and, and that's what it does. So you know, it's very frustrating for someone like me who's been, you know, obnoxiously loud about this sort of thing for many years that the average conservative can't just accept that like the system hates you and stop supporting it. Like if you're paying a cable bill or you're you know, subscribing to the National Review like stop, like take, take your National Review subscription money and go to Pete Canones, you know, like go to P site and go to the donate page and put in your National Review money into you know, Pete's channel. And I don't ask people to do things I don't do. I supported Pete, you know, he got some, some of money for me just like two weeks ago. This is important. The only people who are going to tell you the truth, you know, the only broadcast radio station that's going to tell you the truth at all. It has Jose on on a semi regular basis. The political cesspool. No one else aside from our corner of the Internet and a few places is going to not hate you, let alone tell you the truth.

[C]

This is how delusional conservatives are. Just me the meme I just put Up.

[B]

Yeah, they hate you. You know, they're. They're going to get us into World War iii because they can't not genocide people that they put in a concentration camp for 50 years.

[C]

The. The whole idea now of immigration is, you know, I think it used to be replacement, but I don't. It was replacement. It still is replacement, but in the beginning it was replacement. Now it's obviously clearly punishment. It's demoralization.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's.

[C]

We're going to do this directly in your face, and there's nothing you can do about it.

[B]

Yeah, because we hate you.

[C]

Yeah, because we hate you. Because you. Because you.

[D]

You can't.

[C]

White people cannot be trusted to be a homogenous society because, you know, 1930s. Yeah.

[D]

Or.

[A]

Or.

[B]

And good.

[D]

I was gonna say. I don't even know if I believe that. Like, I may believe everything you're saying, except for it's because of the 1930s. I'm going to sign on with what D says that that's way older than that. That's. It's. I think it's just projection because you have an entire tribe of people that are basically, for all intents and purposes, spiritual women, which means they project, project, project. They're going to accuse you of something that they're doing themselves. So what it is is they inherently believe that everybody else is going to do what they're doing. I mean, what's happening in Gaza is exactly proof of that. Oh, everybody else wants to kill us off. Everybody else wants to murder us. Like, well, that's weird. How come when you got the guns, you're just killing everybody you can get your hands on?

[B]

I mean, you've killed 10,000 kids in three months.

[D]

Right. Like, I mean, what I.

[A]

So to.

[D]

I agree with your point. Up till when you assign the date, Pete, I would say that that's. It goes way beyond. Well, yeah, I would say it's just. I would say it's just they assume everybody, when they get collectivized, are going to be as bloodthirsty and as petty and as vengeful as they themselves, and then that's it. So they. They figure if everybody else is going to knife them, they better knife first.

[C]

But.

[D]

And that's why every nation they run falls apart in, what, 80 years or less.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Literally, the model of their Mossad is rise and kill first. Like, the model of the motto of their intelligence agency is. And it comes straight from the scriptures. Like, if someone is coming to kill you, rise, rise and kill them first. That is that is the motto of massage.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Right.

[C]

When you.

[A]

There actually a really good book too. Like that's really mask off about Mossad.

[C]

The. When you look back into. I did an episode recently with Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson. I think it was actually 999 on the pogroms in Russia in the late 1800s, early 1900s. And it always turned out to. And whenever you look into them and whenever they went back to original source materials, it always turned out it was them starting violence. And then as soon as somebody fought back. Oh, we're being programmed. Oh, we're being attacked. Right.

[B]

We formed a communist gang that, that like killed a couple shopkeepers or a landlord or somebody. And then when like his family was like what the hell are you doing? You know, and, and like fought back or called the police and they tried to arrest the guys who'd formed the communist gang, killing people or extorting people. And then all of a sudden.

[C]

Oh God.

[A]

Yeah, I. I see like the. This latest like bruja and Gaza and really in general with the rise of like the populist right versus this rootless cosmopolitan class as just like the latest chapter of a. A thousand plus year struggle of Aryans versus sorcerers. So I think there's like nothing new under the sun here. It's a very protracted like struggle.

[C]

You sound like you've been listening to Striker.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. To credit. Yep.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, well, but again. And I, I know these guys. I've. I've talked to Dr. Johnson, I've talked to Stryker before. Like, you know, like the only people who are going to tell you the truth on anything are on what, you know, Z Man calls this side of the great divide. And to me, you know, the only people. And it's, it's not just, you know, the border in Texas or the, the stuff in the Middle east or anything, you know, and some people I would consider, you know, maybe it's just a soft spot in my heart, but like Tom Woods, I would consider an honest man who's on my side of things. Even though we disagree about economics, that, you know, I still find Lou Rockwell, for instance, to be an honest man and a valuable writer. But this is, you know, life is serious business and when you do things like throw open the borders of a country and make the hospitals unusable and make the roads unusable and make, you know, the public fisk a complete disaster for like five generations into the future and you know, start, you know, pick fights with the entire world and possibly just, you know, like screw with Major shipping routes and you know, like the United States, the, you know, the, oh, the Iranians are attacking us. Why are we on illegal bases in Syria? Like we're illegally occupying the eastern third of Syria with all the oil. Why, you know, like, like if, if, if I have, if I have an armed gang show up in your house and squat in your house for years at a time and you fucking finally get enough, you know, enough resources together to kick me out all of a sudden like, oh gosh, you attacked me.

[D]

What? What?

[B]

Like Iraq has asked us to leave multiple times. You know, this, the supposedly sovereign state of Iraq, like they've been like, you know, actually the, the, the money on, you know, isn't, isn't worth the like, violence and you know, the, the sexual assaults that our people endure. You know, like in Okinawa, right. Like there's sexual assaults that happen all the time from beings on bas. They're almost all, you know, Steve Sailor Month people doing that. And you know, the three people who were killed in, in America, you know, the supposed American base. Right. Like why are Americans illegally occupied?

[D]

Why.

[B]

I'm sure you guys, there's an old meme like why did Iran put itself so close to all of our military base.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Why about this entire time actually.

[B]

Right? So like why do we have, right. Why do we have. Why are there Americans on bases in Jordan, in Syria, in Iraq, in Kuwait, in all of these countries when you know, like our, our, the main job of the US army should be defending the United States of America and.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

We just started talking about how the state of Texas is going to be destroyed. And, and this is very much on purpose. Right. The state of Arizona has been destroyed. You know, the state that elected Barry Goldwater has been irrevocably changed by mass immigration. It will never elect a man like Barry Goldwater ever again. The California that elected, elected Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan will never come back again because of mass immigration. The Texas that gave us Ron Paul will, will be destroyed by mass immigration. So this is the reason this is frustrating isn't that the left is playing jungle ball. They've always played jungle ball. They've always played by no rules. They've always done things like kill nuns and, and burn down churches and, and all this stuff. You know, their playbook really hasn't changed for 250 years.

[D]

Sadly true. Yeah, sad.

[B]

You know, they've always done this. The problem is, sorry, the supposed right wingers don't say, yeah, that's the play. So you know, you're not playing marquis Queensberry rules. You're playing, you know, like shiv a guy in the back rules, so act accordingly. And the second you do that, you know, someone on Twitter says, pete, you're a fascist because you think that you shouldn't let people who want to forcibly transition 8 year olds shouldn't be listened to and should be, you know, opposed with all, all means available.

[C]

Oh, oh, you wanna, you wanna know? You don't wanna know.

[B]

Sorry. They're sexually mutilating 8 year olds. I don't know what to tell you except that you have to stop this person however you can.

[C]

I mean, I've been called the fascist for how long now? And think about this. Javier Malay gets his package pushed through to cut a whole bunch of government and then privatize it, not telling you who he's going to sell it to. I have, I have my assumptions.

[B]

Wasn't he in Brooklyn the day the tunnels thing came out?

[C]

Yes. No, he wasn't in Brooklyn. He was there like a couple weeks before that happened. But he, yeah, he visited that command. Um, but yesterday protests started and he, you know, in, in very rough body and Bardian form, unleashed the cops. And it didn't escape me that what I've always said, if you're going to have anything that's close to libertarianism and capitalism, you're going to have to be authoritarian. So he unleashes the cops to put down this, to put down this protest. There's going to be more protests. So the cops are going to have to constantly be doing this, just like in Pinochet's Chile. For most people, for people who actually know the real history of Pinochet Chile, there were constant uprisings, there were constant things that he had to quell. Unless he goes full Bukele and just says, I'm going to arrest these people, I'm going to throw them into prison,

[B]

I'm going to let them rot and

[C]

I don't give a fuck. He's going to have to do this over and over again, but still, just by a narco capitalist standards. And him unleashing the cops upon these people who are just protesting peacefully in the streets. He already proves that all of that is bullshit. That the only way that you can rule and you can get your shit done is by crushing your opponents.

[B]

May I remind people that Murray Rothbard died after endorsing David Duke. Just get, just saying. I mean, like. This is, you know, Marie unreason, the police, life barred. And I'm not against. A lot of, you know, people tend to, you Know, go after libertarians for a lot of dumb stuff. The libertarian problem with central banking and causing inflation. We have the best that lasts. The inflation the last three years is, proves the libertarian case against central banking 100%. Like they caused inflation through the roof by the lockdowns, cutting production and printing a bunch of money like it was the recipe for inflation. And libertarians should be proud of like, yeah, we sold, we told you this was going to cause a bunch of inflation and look what happened. But instead of saying, we told you what was going to cause a bunch of inflation, look at all the, look at all the suffering that people are having because they can't afford food. They're going, well, I mean, but what about freedom though? To like, you know, trans 8 year olds. But freedom though, it was like you were, you are deliberately taking the biggest W libertarians have had since the Ron Paul revolution, right? Of foreign wars being a total mess of non interventionism, of you know, domestic interference causing problems in the economy. You're taking those W's that prove if such, if you know, if there is such a case to be made for libertarianism of the, you know, the paleo conservative, like small C conservative, you know, type of, that Ron Paul represented, which in many ways I still respect and still am the Hans Herman hoppy and tradition of, of you know, boring, petite people who want to be left alone without state interference in their business. Those people looking for a little Hollywood style fun. Check out Ryan Seacrest 10K Ways. Exclusively at Chumba Casino.

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[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean, am I wrong?

[D]

They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, so. Well, they may as well be Republicans. That, that, that's my take on the matter.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's pathological with that, with that crowd. Yeah, they'll just focus on like, like so like the most like degenerate issues like you mentioned with like, like transgender stuff or like even like just talk about like legalizing pot and all this stuff as opposed to like going with like a rather relevant political issue that's very like structural in nature. Like if you solve this issue, you can solve a lot of other economic issues, but instead they, they just pick like the stupidest political issues. To die on a hill for. And it's just, it's one of like the many reasons why when I did a lot of political work, I tended to avoid working with libertarian people just because of like their mongoloid tier, like political IQ when it comes to the fights they choose. It's just like pretty bad.

[D]

I never realized that that's a good point. That their interests seem, they, they focus on these niches almost to the point session and it's just you just, they come across looking comical at that point. Just ludicrous. Like, why are you worrying about this? It's kind of like the guy that's, you know, furiously scrubbing the spot out of, you know, one side of the couch and the other half is just drenched in filth. It's like, what are you doing? Like, do you not see the rest of the couch? So.

[B]

Well, I mean like I'm not a big fan of the Democrats and things might change, but like up until pretty recently the only, you know, national political convention that had like a dude in his underwear dancing around was a libertarian one. Right. Like, you know, the trans thing might, might change that, you know. Right. You know, the Republicans will be like our, our, you know, our trans Bruce Jenner is, is, you know, so much better. Right? Yeah, we are like Republican transsexuals are so much prettier than the Democrat ones.

[A]

Like, like don't give them ideas.

[B]

Well, that's what they're, that's what they're basically saying. What is it? Jesse Kelly, right. That you know, the guy, you know, like, you know, I'm not, not gonna lie, the dude in, you know, the guy at the White House, you know, with the bolt ons. They, they look pretty good. Like, oh God, this was, this was several months ago. But like if you can't. And, and this is why this show is so valuable. And I want to say thank you to Pete for all the stuff he does, you know, dredging up old readings and, and you know, interviewing Thomas and getting people, you know, I, I think you single handedly.

[C]

I have to thank Jose. Jose is the one who told me about Thomas. I had no idea who Thomas was.

[A]

I actually forgot about that. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, well, thank you both. But, but like, you know, Pete, you're probably. I was thinking about this this morning in preparation for the show. Like, you know, I've been around for a while and I was a reader of you know, kind of Mold Bug and Sailor and VD Air and all that other stuff there were in back in the day. Steve, saylor's blog role was like, you know, the place to be. Like, if you wanted to find something out, you could just go to Steve's blog and, like, click on the right hand sidebar and you'd find something more people today know about, you know, the Institute of Historical Review, thanks to Pete, than probably ever have in history, you know, and it's stuff like that where, you know, people gotta. People ask themselves the question, like, you know, you can make all the jokes about, you know, Greg Abbott standing up for America or whatever we want, but. But the fact that he's being forced, you know, Charlie Kirk is effectively being forced by events and by pressure from normal people to concede everything I was saying in 2012 when I was still allowed on Twitter, you know.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And it is. It is people like Pete pushing that, telling the truth, you know, and. And bringing new stuff to people's attention.

[D]

You.

[B]

You know, Pete just brought up a book at this stream about. About, you know, Sam Francis and stuff from 25, 30 years ago. And it is that, you know, truth. The events. The events around us are vindicating our side of the great divide all the time. And I think that's pretty. Sex. Pretty exciting because, you know, normal people are finally waking up to where, you know, Pete was in 1997, which if everyone had the same politics as Pete Quinones in 1997, things would be a lot better than they are now. But, you know, and that doesn't make you fascist necessarily. You know, not that there's anything wrong with being a fascist, but.

[C]

Well, wait a minute. I didn't. I didn't discover his Institute for historical review till 1998, so.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry, man.

[D]

We keep going back to 1998. A lot happening then, huh?

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I started and, you know, this is something that I. I've talked about with other people. I talked about it with Scott from History Homos is, you know, I was very, very radical in my individual thought. And then I discovered libertarianism, and that really, like, de. Radicalized me for a while, so. Oh, I have to. I have to judge everybody as an individual. But, you know, if you really go back and you listen to some of my podcasts, I mean, there was a reason why, you know, I'd have Scott Horton on and we'd rag on Zionists and I would talk about the Zionists,

[B]

and they're awful. Like, let's not. Like, let's not kid ourselves, you know. Sadly, it's no longer online, but I first learned about Jabotinsky and You know, the militant Zionists from a friend of mine who's, you know, on our side of the wall, and they basically took all their program from, you know, Europe in 1935 and applied it to themselves and then said no one else can have this, you know, an autarctic ethno state with a wall and like socialized medicine for families and. Right. Like, you know, if you, if you love the Second Amendment, you know, that, that little country in the Middle east is great. Everyone has weapons all the time.

[C]

Why?

[B]

Because they're swear by people who hate them. You know, it's, it's only in America where, you know, you look up gun control and like, who's behind it and you're like, man, is this a minion? What's going on here?

[D]

Why are that.

[C]

Well, it's in America. I mean, at least in Israel, they're on the other side of a fence. Here we have people who hate us that live right down the street.

[B]

Yeah, well, and, and, and the reason you can't put a offense between you and those people is Shelly v. Kramer in 1948.

[D]

Just gonna say that. Just gonna say that, damn it.

[B]

And guess who's behind that. Right? Like the entire, you know, the entire Shelley legal team was Saturday people.

[C]

So.

[B]

And I've been on Paul Kersey's got a couple books out, but from Alo Hill Publishing, talking about this sort of stuff. But I've talked about it extensively.

[C]

Right.

[B]

This is, this is, you know, the only people who are going to tell you the truth. Like there are other people who say the truth, but if you want to go through the archives of the Pete Quinones show and just find the people that Pete's talked to, that's a really. If you're, this is your first show, go through the Pete's archives, listen to the people who, you know, Pete has on and find and branch out from there. You'll find pretty much everyone who's going to tell you the truth on something. And many years ago, he and I were on Twitter at the same time. Former Pete can earn his guest. And he's, he's a friend of mine, Travis Corcoran, who's now the, in the New Hampshire state legislature. He and I were talking and this was 15 years ago. But the only conversations that were at all interesting were, you know, between, like at the time, like the Pat Buchanan types, the Paleo conservatives and libertarians.

[D]

Right.

[B]

So only the only interesting conversations that are going to happen today are between people that are on this side of the fence. No one else is going to have anything useful or interesting to say at all. Ever.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, and

[D]

let's bring

[C]

up the, the old trope here. The, the quote unquote, libertarians, alt right, pop pipeline. Remember when that was a thing? Remember when that was so poo poo and it was all over Twitter and everything? I mean, we might not call it the alt right anymore because, you know, the alt right became corporate corporatized pretty quickly. But yeah, it's like I was talking about with Millay. If he's going to institute anything that looks like libertarianism in Argentina, he's going crack down on, you know, certain groups of people. And, you know, I don't trust him because of his associations. And I think that, you know, when I asked the question, if he's privatizing the government, who's buying it? I think I know. I think I know that because I read Stryker's recent, recent article on exactly who his, you know, who his, who his backers were. But let's leave all that aside. If you are going to have order, if you are going to have what you want, what you want your culture to look like, what you want your society to look like, you're going to have to unleash the cops. You're going to have to do the things that Murray Rothbard, where, you know, there's Facebook groups that are like, we don't talk about 90s Rothbard. No, 90s Rothbard's whole progression from beginning to end. He ended exactly where society, where the kind of idea of structuring a society and having a culture where it should be. And to argue against that is basically. To argue is basically to just, you're always going to lose, but I'm always going to be right. You know, is what Sam Francis called the Beautiful Loser. You know, where it's like, oh, I'm, I'm morally correct, but you know, I'm never going to see what I want out of society.

[B]

Well, and this is, this is the.

[C]

The.

[B]

And I've talked with Striker about this and others. The, the two things that the right has won on in my lifetime and again I'm in my 40s are homeschooling and guns and a little bit on abortion, but I'll get to that in a second. The two issues where they act like leftists, where they say no constitutional carry for everyone all the time, all 50 states, until, until I get exactly what I want, I'm going to keep pushing. I don't want an nfa, I don't Want the ffa, I want everything, right? You talk to the GOA guys. You talk to the hard, harder core NRA guys. The whole point of the NRA is to, is to moderate the guys who are like, no, the whole thing.

[C]

The outfit Jose used to run with, national association for Gun Rights.

[B]

Right. The reason they went on that is they made the moral case for, you know, going whole hog. Like repealing the nfa, repealing Federal Firearms act, you know, legalizing suppressors, you know, like the, maximizing two, eight, you know, getting rid of, you know, permits for concealed carry, letting, letting everyone have constitutional carry, all of that, insisting on everyone's right to keep and bear arms and, you know, concealed carry in every, all 50 states, not requiring a sheriff, whatever. They act like leftists. They, they say they get half a loaf and they go, okay, when's, when's the next, you know, When's my other 3/4 of loaf? What's, what's next? What can I get next? And the other thing is that homeschooling. They said, I don't care if you throw me in jail, I'm not sending my kids to public school. And they put together a homeschool legal defense association. And they pushed in all 50 states to get laws they, they pushed to get, you know, if you throw a mom in jail there, there'd be, you know, for homeschooling. There'd be rallies on the steps, there'd be, you know, immense political pressure, you know, legislators that get called. I'm not old enough to, you know, I wasn't, wasn't homeschooled. But I know people because of being a traditionalist Catholic. Like, I know some of those, like, weird homeschooling moms from like 1987 who like, you know, had the, you know, the 15 passenger van with nine kids in it. Right, I know those people. And they would go to the mat, there'd be 30 moms calling, you know, like the entire, you know, statewide. There'd be instantly a network activated. And they would absolutely

[A]

push.

[B]

And if, like, they would, they would make direct, like, if you don't help us with this, we will primary you.

[D]

Well, you're only gonna help us. You're only gonna get the life you want if you're willing to die for it. That's, that's really what it is. At the end of the day, you're only going to get the life you want if you're willing to die for it. Because that's what, that's the common thread that you're weaving through all of this. These people have a goal. They have a way of life that they will not compromise on. I will not send my kids there. I will not give up my firearms, my right to defend myself. I will not. Etc. Etc. If they are, if they are willing to die for it, then they get the life they want. That's the paradox that it is. Do you follow me? Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[D]

And I would, I would posit that the only reason we don't live. Well, there's a few. But I would say the. I guess I should say the main reason we don't live in a medical tyranny post Covid is because there was a significant swath of our population and, and I. That became a bone in the throat of the authoritarian system that they wanted to implement that just simply said, no, we're not going to do this. And a lot of them were, as you like to say, celebrants of Steve Saylor month. They're just like, no, we're not going to wear a mask. We're not going to put a needle in our arm because, no, we don't trust you. You know, we've done this to us before and we're not going to take it again. And it's like, okay. I mean, there's plenty of footage of them fighting in restaurants. Them fight you saying, I'm not. I don't have to show you a card. I don't have to show you nothing. And where did it all go? It all disappeared almost overnight. All of New York said, you needed to bring a vaccine card. You needed that. And there was what, two instances? One was in front of an Italian restaurant where they're like, you can go jump in a lake. I ain't showing you card. I ain't showing you nothing. And wow, where did all of those implementations go? They're all gone. Like, like that. What do you think that was because people like, peacefully protested or they wrote on Twitter? No, it's because people were throwing punches in restaurants saying, I'm not, I'm not showing you nothing. I don't have to show you anything. That's where medical tyranny went.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's, that's one thing. Like, those of us who, I think all four of us on this call were pretty adamant, like, not only no, but like, I'm never going to forgive you for this. I'm never going to forget. I'm never going to. Like, I will hold a grudge to the day I die.

[C]

There are still things that, like, I remember, like, like somebody will bring up like, something that happened back then, and I'll. And I'll remember that they did that. And I'll be so mad that my. My eyes start tearing, because it's. I mean, back then, it was. I mean, I was podcasting. I was trying to do as much as I could. I was trying to. But, you know, I was also really, really defiant about what was going on in my personal life. I was working a job. And they're like, we're gonna fire you if you don't wear a mask. And I'm like, well, fire me. Go ahead. I'm your biggest producer. Fire me. Go ahead. You know, and it's like, well, can you just, like, pretend? And it's like, yeah, leave me the alone.

[B]

And actually, if I could talk about it for just a second. People like yourself, Tom Woods, Carl Denninger over at Market Ticker, you guys saved thousands of lives. And I got. I gotta say, you know, God bless you for that, because without the sources of information that you guys provided, particularly, you know, Tom and Carl were absolutely invaluable. Tom was on that thing like white on rice, you know, charts and everything, you know, provided the ammunition and, you know, the ability to push back on that. And I just. I. I got to say thank you. Because, you know, without support from guys like you, Pete, you know, I might have taken the damn thing, you know, but. Because I think, you know, I got to know you around the time that things kicked off and I started, you know, from Tom and a few other places, I was able to find alternative sources of information and. And just say no. And that. That saved. That saved people's lives.

[D]

Well, remember, d. When that first started, I was one of the ones that was against it, too, in our personal circles. How many times in our purse, telegram channels was I getting into it and scrapping with our own friends, our own IRL friends. And I'm like, nah, this is all nonsense. You can't be doing this. These people are lying to you. I remember that clearly, and I won't forget that either. I will not. No, no, we can't.

[C]

I remember me and Jose getting together at, like, the Mises Institute and be like, you want to go out to a restaurant, like, in 2020? And they'd be like, are they gonna try? And we're not gonna. We're not gonna follow any.

[D]

Whatever they say.

[A]

Yeah, well.

[B]

And that's. It's. It's precisely. And I gotta give. I mean, Charles credit. He and I've been friends for many, many years, and we, you know, we'll just randomly call each other up. We're buddies, you know, the. In. I, I had to call him and apologize. I think, I think in 2021. Or I'm like, no, like, because I was like, it might be a Chinese bioweapon and the Chinese are so sloppy that this might actually be a real thing. I actually called him to apologize and like, you know, after a year and was like, no, I. Men. You've write. This is, this is all complete nonsense. The entire thing is, is, you know, faker than. Than, you know, Pamela Anderson's chest and, and more. More homosexual than. Than Liberace. You know, like, this is, this is right. And, and again, right. The people who won, you know, the four of us aren't vaxxed. None of us, none of us have any long term health problems. Mark Stein, God bless him, you know, got vaccine, had three heart attacks.

[D]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

You know, he's. He was the best writer. National Review after everyone, after derbyshell left and things like that.

[C]

You know, people thought that I got vaxxed after I went to the Scott Horton Bill crystal debate in 2021 in New York because you had to have a vax. Because you had to have a vax card and like, oh, oh, oh, you. I'm like, yeah, you had to have a vax card, right?

[B]

And, and coincidentally I had a printer. Like I was just gonna say I had four.

[D]

I could have mailed you one. Pete.

[C]

They were, they were looking for vax cards to go into bars in New York after that. We went to a bar after the debate and everything. There were people in the bars. It's something I was talking about recently. I was talking about how they didn't even have to like in. When I was living right outside of Atlanta at the time and the police just disappeared. The police didn't have to enforce any of this because people were enforcing it. Private businesses, quote, quote, unquote. It's a private business, bro. Was, were enforcing it. I mean, it was, it was fucking madness.

[D]

I remember getting into an argument with my girlfriend at the time and she's like, oh, well, because the library had demanded you. You wear a mask. And she said, well, they're a private business. They can do what they want. I was like, the public library is a private business. No. On what planet is that? Is that a thing? And I wish I went out to eat with you and Jose, Pete, because I was the same way. The nearby city where I go to eat, I literally went online. This shows you that the type of Guys that we are, I literally went online and downloaded the PDF of the mask mandate, and I read through the whole thing and I would just walk into restaurants like, you have to wear a mask. And I'd be like, no. According to section 6, subsection I, section 3, if you're hard of hearing, you don't need to wear a mask. And I'm deaf in my right ear. I absolutely did that every time. And the one time somebody really pushed back, back on me because usually I would just get like the look of a dog that had just been shown a card trick. I, I, the one time I got pushed back, they're like, oh, we're just trying to follow the rule. I, I just, I actually yelled at him in the bank. I was like, you're not trying to follow the rule. I just told you the rule and you're going against it. Get your manager. It was a blast.

[B]

Well, and I've talked plenty, but I just think this is important. I'll make this one point. The people who took the opportunity to screw with normal people's lives, this was the biggest wealth transfer in the history of the human race. It was a destruction of the middle class and the people that make this country run. I'm not a big fan of Thomas Jefferson, but it's the guys with the small restaurant where, you know, the land is worth, you know, a million dollars. And he's got, you know, total assets maybe of like $1.5 million. And that might seem like a lot, but he's, he's not wealthy, but he's, he's okay. But, you know, 100 of those guys can put together, they can hire a lawyer, they can, they can get a lobby firm, whatever. It's those guys, those people that own or, you know, own a McDonald's franchise

[C]

or

[B]

own a small business that make or made this country work. And those people were targeted by the golurgy for destruction. And I'm never forgetting, can forgive or forget, that these petty totalitarians and frankly morons decided that they were going to destroy all that in favor of wazon, because someone kind of.

[D]

Yep, I, I will not forget. I think it was March 28th on my Twitter. I got into it with somebody March 28th of 2020, when it was just, when it was just starting and I had said, this is the solidification of corporatocracy. That's what you're seeing. That's why Walmart can stay open. That's why Lowe's can stay open. That's why all these big companies can stay open and mom and pop can't. It's the solidification of corporatocracy. And this is how they're doing it. They're crushing all the little guys. And it's what they're going to do is they're going to crush all the little guys because the little guys can't survive with their business being closed anywhere near as long as a big guy can. And then once all the little guys close, the big guys are just going to buy up all their property, take up all their, all their former customers and increase their profits. So not only are they getting rich off of selling you poison, they're getting rich off of putting you out of business and then taking your customers. I think if you scroll back to my Twitter in March of 2020, you'll

[C]

find that I just went into my, opened up my Skype account and went back to March 19, 2020. And I remember I was talking to a guy, I'm not going to name him, he's in Switzerland and he was, he worked with law enforcement in Switzerland. And the crazy thing is Ryan McMakin at Mises too, we had been doing these episodes talking about decentralization and using Switzerland as a model. And I get on this private call with this guy in Switzerland, in Switzerland on March 19th. Now it was only three days before that the mandates started coming down. Some states started mandating, counties were mandating, you know, shelter in place, stay at home, all this crap. And this guy tells me that in what I think is the freest country country in the world that like they have orders to arrest people if they leave their homes for like a week. You know, like they food, if they don't have food them there, no one is allowed. The only people that are allowed to walk, walk the streets or are law enforcement. That's when I knew this wasn't just America. This wasn't that this was something global and that there's no there. And I had said it was something global starting in February, but this is what, this is what solidified it for me. And I just said, okay, well they're just, this is the new thing. This is, this is worse than 9 11. It's going to change things for, I mean think about it after 911 was were there people killing themselves? Were there people who committing suicide because they couldn't see their friends? Were there people who couldn't be with their loved ones because they were dying? Yeah. And then when you, when you bring up the fact that, you know, one of these days when we, when Our guys are in charge. People are going to have to answer for this. People. Oh, you're just going too far. You have to. It has to be like reconciliation in South Africa.

[D]

No, a couple point, forgive me, not to cut you off, but just to riff off of what you said, like, not only were there not the deaths of despair that you discussed there so poignantly after 9 11, it was the opposite. If you go back and you look, you'll find that their marriages had noticeably increased and there was actually a lot more camaraderie and a lot more of an intertwining of people at that point, A lot more community at that point. Because, again, people had endured something and they were not despairing. If anything, they were. They were positive they had endured it and that they had come together and that they had, at least to their. In their minds, overcome. So I. I would say not only were there, not. Not only was there that absence of deaths of despair, I think if you go back and you look at the records, it's completely the opposite. And when you talk about. There has to be a reckoning for these kinds of things, I think the most recent developments in Spain, Dee and I talked about this not long ago, about what they're. Franco in his memory. It's like, if that doesn't tell you, you need to crush these people. And I mean mercilessly. And I say that as a Christian, and I mean, I'm a pretty terrible Catholic, but I definitely define myself as a Christian.

[C]

We're all pretty bad Catholics.

[D]

Okay, but the point I'm saying is I still. I still do believe in loving my enemy, even if I have to destroy him. It's like I. I can't allow evil to exist. But it doesn't mean I have to hate you. I hate the evil. But anyway, the point I'm getting at is simply if. If Franco doesn't teach us that you have to just be ruthless and merciless when the time comes. I don't know what to say now. I don't think a man should take pleasure in it. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think he should. And as somebody that was in law enforcement for many years and may again find himself in it, I don't think one should take pleasure in that. I think that that's not morally correct, but I do think it has to happen. Just like a hanging, you know, just like an execution of a criminal. Like, it has to be done. We have to put this mad dog down to. To not put him down would be an injustice, but you shouldn't take pleasure in it. Regardless. I, you know, there were not the deaths of despair after 9, 11. And Franco teaches us you have to crush these people mercilessly or they will come back before you know it.

[C]

Well, I think a lot of people and you know, just bring up Franco, you know, people in Spain understand that that's why we have the vox party now. But, you know, just recently in November of last year, you know, a couple months ago, one of the, one of the leaders of the vox party, Alejo Cuadras, someone walked up to him and shot him in the face in, you know, in the streets of Madrid. They understand, they're beginning to un. Well, they're not beginning to, but if you've been on Twitter this week and you've been following this one will Stancil account, it's real what they're doing. And some of the things that Mark Cuban did this week, what's his real name? Mark Kabaneski. One of the things that he, that you're seeing is they're starting to understand that the pendulum is swinging to the other side and they're freaking the out. That's why you would walk up to somebody and shoot them in the face in the street. You know, an old man, I mean, Alajo is an old man. They're, they're scared because they know that they put. I think that many of them know that they push too far and they're in, they're very much in fear because they know what's happened in the past when this, when they push this way.

[D]

I, I think to kind of just join with your. What you're saying, with what Jose had said earlier. I think they know that the, the wheel is turning, the cycle is turning once again. As Jose, you said earlier about the whole. This is a, this is a battle that's been raging for a very long time. And I think that's what they're feeling now is they had their time up on that, that medieval concept of the wheel of fortune. And okay, now they've, they've, they've crested that, the top of that turn and they've enjoyed it. But now they have to see the reality that here comes the decline and that medieval wheel of fortune is just turning again to kind of dovetail both your and Jose's statements together. And I think they aren't scared. I agree with you. I think they're very frightened because I think they know exactly what happens next.

[B]

And our job is when the pendulum swings is to keep it there

[A]

with the whole. Yeah, I think this new, like, new phase of instability, which I'll just like colloquially label like as like the trials, if you will, is like ultimately like a system breakdown of the so called, like unipolar order, both like a, like domestic and international level where

[B]

there's gonna

[A]

see a complete abandonment of norms altogether and people have to be ready for a lot of like, wild stuff to pop off. And I'm. When we're talking about political violence, I remember that one incident, I think it was like in 2020, where like that Trump supporter got gunned down in Oregon, like execution style. That should have also been a wake up call to people on the right that like, this kind of stuff is going to become normalized soon. Because when you look at, say, like a lot of younger millennials, zoomers and people who have been growing up like exclusively on the Internet and that live incredibly deracinated and like antisocial lifestyles, these people will have very little regard for respecting basic norms. And then you have also just these like psycho Ynet types and millennial women that are gonna come into age, that a single millennial women that are going to come into Asia and when they start taking political power, like, all bets are off. It's gonna make Aristophanes assembly women look like a walk in the park. And I, I really do think that people have to be like, really embrace themselves both like, physically, mentally and mentally for what's to come. Because this is not gonna be a political debate. Ultimately, that's it. It's gonna be a total. It's gonna be a slugfest. And I can't all express it enough that most of the, like, Paul, like the Schoolhouse Rock politics that people have been accustomed to, it's just gonna go out the window and you're gonna see this pure, like, Fred Enemy distinction and dare I say, it's gonna be very primordial too, at times. So people are gonna have to make some very tough decisions in the years to come.

[D]

Jose, just to, Just to say, just to latch on what you're saying very briefly, I put out on Twitter not long ago. I don't post much anymore, just too busy. But to kind of address what you're saying, encapsulate it. I did that. I know it's tired now, but it was the first and last time I'd used it. I did the freedom of speech meme, the Rockwell painting, and over I put my statement on it was, there is no political solution. The longest we. The longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. And that's, that's. Was my take on the situation akin to yours?

[B]

I think Jose made a very good point there and I know that Charles, you and I have talked about this. Childless millennial women are going to absolutely lose their minds. Tyler reddick here from 2311 racing another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Chumba. Jump [e-mail] let's shamba. No purchase necessary. BTW group void. We're prohibited by law. CTNC21+ sponsored by Chumba Casino. They're already pretty crazy but like they, they are going to lose their minds in the next five to 10 years when they realize that like every dude who's worth having is either already taken or he's shopping for a 23 year old. Like, like, right, like, like, you know, like, sorry, sweetheart, empty egg carton. BPD can't cook. I'm gonna shop in the, in the, you know, not crazy aisle. Sorry.

[A]

And

[B]

again, this is, you know, conservatives, conventional Republicans, I guess they are conservative. Like, like the 19th Amendment was a disaster. It's still a disaster. No one who's sane thinks it's a good idea like the, the, the,

[C]

the

[B]

like restoration of sanity to our politics. And I'm, you know, Murray Rothburg is not in favor and Coulter's not in favor. Like anybody who actually thinks about this stuff is like, no, no, this is a bad idea. They are not going to be, you know, the four of us probably just, we could easily find an issue that, where all four of us disagree about something and we could have a conversation where, you know, the four of us managed to come to a compromise that everyone on us could live with.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You know, I, I think the tax rate should be 17%. Posey thinks it should be 19%. Charles thinks should be 25. Pete thinks it should be 23. Whatever. We could come to some sort of mos vivendi. There is no living with a crazy lady who thinks she's still hot when she's 39 and that any day now her prince is going to come and she's going to have kids and an awesome career and still be like, you know, hot and you know, get a million dollars and like you just, it's not going to happen. And if she doesn't get those things, she thinks that SWAT should like, if you tell her, sweetheart, that is not going to happen. She thinks the state, the police should show up at your house and arrest you because you're using violence against her. And that's not even an exaggeration. Like if you tell these women, like sweetie, I realize you're alone on Valentine's Day and you feel really bad, but you're 38. The time to actually find a dude was 15 years ago or 20. And I'm sorry, you know, we built a state on catering to, you know, sailor month people and invaders and you know, alone on Valentine's Day women and you know, Murray Rothbard when he died said like no, you have to Hans Herman Hopper, right? Like, like if you do not have a state or a society that is geared around male headed households that work in the private economy, your society will fail. The centerpiece of any society is the patriarchal family and you, and you have to put that at the center or everything's going to fall apart. Because the only net hack payers are men with families like women don't pay taxes. Sorry. A friend. The alternative hypothesis is no longer existing. But they, they get an. It's available, you can find it. You know, sorry, February month people are like a negative $750,000 over their lifetime tax recipients. Like just a huge sunk cost. You know, the recent invaders are, you know, oh, they're not as bad. They're only minus, you know, 300.

[C]

They're more.

[D]

They're about half a million. They're about half.

[B]

Yeah. Or whatever it is.

[D]

Yeah, they're half a million. Not much, not much lower. Not much better than the others if ironically enough because.

[B]

Yeah, but there's twice as many of them and they're, you know, 7 million of them just showed up last. Last.

[D]

Bingo. Continue, please.

[B]

So like you're not. This isn't going to succeed. And whether you want it to or not, you know, like Jose said, this whole paradigm is crashing and burning. Right? If, if you don't have. I talked about this a little bit. I know a lot about airlines and airlines have been in the news lately as briefly as possible. Oh, there you go. That's it, right? Airplanes almost fell out of the sky because diversity, equity, inclusion, okay? In order for commercial airline travel to be a thing, everyone, everyone involved has to be an autistic nerd. I'm not even joking.

[A]

No doubt. Yes.

[B]

The Runway has to be exactly level. There can't be anything on the Runway. There can't be any foreign object debris on the Runway. The Runway has to be super thick concrete. That's super level. The substrate on the concrete has to be exactly right because you have, you know, multi ton objects moving at 150 miles an hour as they land. Right? The tires have to be exactly right. The wing has to be exactly right. The, The. I was on a plane a couple years ago where the door got a little jacked up. We had to get on a new plane, because if the door is a little jacked up, if it's just. Just a quarter inch, not, you know, too proud of the rest of the plane, the door gets ripped off as you move at 700 miles an hour. Right. Like, everything about it from the construction of the plane, the construction of the facilities, the people running the, you know, the, the fa, the air traffic control, the, the radar networks, the radio communications networks, the entire thing, all of it, in order for people to move at hundreds of miles an hour through the sky in the jet turbine engines. Do you know how. I've never been a machinist, but I know a little bit about how. Do you know how fine the machinists have to get in order to make a jet turbine function without, like, blowing up in a gigantic fireball that causes shrapnel to spread across like a quarter mile radius? I mean, we're talking thousands of an inch. Thousands. The tolerances are super tiny. So, like, how. I mean, show me a place that isn't filled, that's filled with February people and, you know, invader people and women, where they've had people that can do this, that you can't find one. I mean, you just can't. And people are gonna die because somebody said, oh, yeah, it's good enough manana, right? Like manana. That's, that's because the manana people were like, this both's tight enough.

[A]

Yeah, you're gonna get like, tons of diversity bridge scenarios. Unfortunately. Unfortunately, because of the competency crisis, that's gonna be pervasive across, like, the, the U.S. like, it's actually, like, pretty scary. And all these, like, infrastructure collapses where you see like, in, like, like the blackouts in California or even like the, the whole, like, energy issues in Texas. I think that's just gonna magnify as, like, society idiocracizes, if you will, over time.

[D]

Yeah, I, I sincerely. I sincerely and humbly suggest to all of Pete's listeners that they start taking the stairs instead, instead of the elevators. Well, and also I think that's gonna become a. I think I say it with a bit of a, A nod and a wink, but I'm not entirely kidding. I think you may want to, for numerous reasons, avoid the elevators and start taking the stairs.

[C]

Yeah, I, and I, I told my wife yesterday, I said, you know, I'm Someone who likes to fly because you get there really quick and you know, you. I'm like, we, we should just buy an rv, you know, and not that we're going to become like RV people because I think RV people are, some of them are like is cringes like friggin Steve sailor people. But just so that when we go we, we don't have to worry about staying over to hotel. I'd rather drive for two days than fly for three hours at this point. I do not want to walk on a plane, look into the cockpit, see what I expect to see and be like, oh no, no, no, I'm out.

[D]

My last flight, Pete, to kind of riff off you and as I'm kind of getting into your camp was I was coming back from Japan in 2019 and what ended up happening was again just the laxation of rules everywhere. They had this fellow, I was getting onto the plane and they had this fellow, I believe he was a Chinese national. But I couldn't take because I was flying out of. Excuse me, I was technically flying out of Hong Kong, but I had been to Japan and I visited Hong Kong and I flew to Hong Kong. But as I'm leaving Hong Kong, there's this Chinese national and he's obviously like feverish, like obviously he's very ill. He's in a wheelchair. And I'm thinking to myself, you can't let this guy on the plane. He's going to have a medical emergency and it's, he's probably going to die. But not only that, you're just going to cause a complete upheaval of everything going on. And no, what do they do? Like no, we don't want to say no, we don't want to be mean. Let him on the plane, let it profits over everything. Put them on. And it's like, okay, by helping this guy, you're, by doing something quote unquote nice for this guy, you're screwing all the other passengers. Well, what of course ends up happening is this guy has a medical emergency while we're in flight. So we have to circle back and then land again. And I am on the plane, no exaggeration, 21 hours. I am not allowed to leave the plane. I am stuck on this plane for 21 hours. So like you're absolutely right. Wanting to drive somewhere is starting to become a much more palatable option. And I won't even get into who rushed to this man's aid and who instead took out folks to film him die. I'll let, I'll Let you and your listeners guess what demographic did what. And

[C]

that's because, you know, we've, we've failed them, so that's why they act that way.

[B]

If there's any one thing I can say for sure, I'm. I'm known for, it's being the guy who knows lots about infrastructure in our movement. I think I'm pretty fair to say that that's kind of what I'm known for. Like, it's all gonna fall apart. It's all gonna fall apart. How. How are these suburbs of, of houses outside of Houston where you're 90 minutes from town, depending on a Walmart gonna. Like, how's that Walmart gonna get anything when, like, the highways between, you know, the port and the Walmart, you know, trucks snap their axles?

[D]

Yeah, that's what, that's why.

[A]

God.

[D]

God, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[B]

I mean, again, I know I'm a nerd about this. I know I'm a little bit autistic about this. I know it's tiresome for some people. It will break and people will starve. Like, a road that can hold a fully loaded 18 wheeler requires people to really care about the substrate of that road, really care about the paving of that road, really care about the maintenance of that road, really care about the maintenance of the truck, really care about making sure that all the tires are properly inflated, making sure that the, the drivetrain of the truck is properly maintained. If the people who are, you know, now being put in charge of this stuff either don't know or don't care about any of that stuff, stuff is just going to start breaking.

[D]

D. You can't, you can't tell me that the, A major reason that you believe in God is because, like, you just look how everything is just hung together by bailing wire and hope. Like, like. Amy, I remember you talking about our rail system in the United States and just how the, the catastrophic conditions that all these things are already under and we're not even getting to how they're going to get even worse. So it's like I. One of the reasons I still maintain a belief in the divine is like, when you see just how everything is held together by a wing and a prayer, either literal or metaphoric. It's, it's, it's mind blowing. Mind blowing. And that's just that go along with you and say, I agree. And I also want to address a point you raised earlier. Insofar as the whole autistic white dudes need to. You need to Have a ton of them to do this stuff. Well, that's what I think women need to be reminded of. It's like, no, you gotta bang this guy because he's why you have a road. He's why you have food, testosterone, built. Like, like, seriously, like, I mean, like. I know, honey, I know, I know. You don't want to hear him talk about, about. Oh, hey, the yellow lines are really cool. Like, look. Look at how symmetrical they are. I get it. He's boring, okay? But you know what you like? You like a roof over your head. You know, you like running water. Well, I suggest you lay down and think of civilization. Lie back. Lie back and think of the first world. Because if you don't lie back and

[B]

think of hot showers, right? Like, because if you don't bang the

[D]

guy, because if you don't, the autistic white guy and take one for the team, you're not going to like where you end up. You're not going to like where you end up.

[B]

And that's a very. That's actually, you know, Jose was talking about this. But all these women, these millennial women who didn't do that, right? They want the benefit of being the wife of the guy who maintains the water or maintains the road or maybe, you know, you know who should get that? The guy who gave that guy three kids.

[D]

That's.

[B]

That's the only people that deserve the benefit of that right.

[D]

It's absolutely right. Because she paid the dues. She understood, okay? I want. I want to live at a certain standard of living. And I'm willing to forego, you know, fill in the superstar of the day. You know what? This guy's decent. He doesn't drink away all our food money. He doesn't smack me around. You know what? Hey, there could be way worse lives and women throughout history have lived them. Them. So I'll bite the bullet a little bit. I'll learn to love them, because that's what women can do, and it'll be okay. And you're absolutely right. She. She's the one that deserves. No, I get a washing machine. I get heat in the winter. I get air conditioning in the summer. You know why? Because I was willing to compromise like an adult. I was willing to understand. Maybe life is a series of trade offs. Is that what you're putting down? D. Am I picking it up properly?

[B]

No, that's exactly right. And like, why should, you know, bpd, Millennial woman with laptop job that's fake. Who's voted for communist her entire life. Like, like this lady's voted against me my entire life. She's, she's done nothing but, like, make my life difficult. Why should I do anything as, as one of those autistic white dudes who keeps things running? Well, let me help her with anything.

[D]

Let me kind of just piece him with your. Without, obviously without doxxing you or your family. Like, like, who deserves civilization, her or your wife? You know what I mean? The woman that gave you how many kids? I won't say that I'm not doxing anybody, but like, who was the one changing diapers and wiping vomit off of everything and crayon off of the refrigerator? You know what I mean? Who was doing all that? Who gets to have a road, you know, Susie laptop job, you know, who probably made. Makes TikTok videos more than she goes to work. Or your wife that, you know, has to make macaroni art for Time this week, you know, and teach the kids the Alphabet, you know, again, because they didn't get it the first time. You know, who deserves civilization? D. You tell me that. You tell me.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Let me, let me ask a question. Let me go around here. Jose, the movie Idiocracy came out in 2006. Did you see it back then?

[A]

Yes. Well, technically I think it was like, oh, wait, I saw it.

[C]

Okay. What about you, Charles? You remember the first time you saw it?

[D]

Yes, yes, I remember. I distinctly lost interest after, I want to say the first 10 minutes or whatever, but I. Yes, yes, I recall seeing it.

[C]

De.

[B]

Yeah, I saw it in like 2007, I think.

[C]

Okay. When you saw it, you looked at it just the same way I did. It's like, oh man, you know, it's probably going to be 50 or 60 or 70 years. You know, they're saying 500 years, but it's probably going to be 50, 60 or 70 years, but I mean, it's 18 years later. And I, I know it's a meme, but the fucking thing has come true.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, can we talk about the fact that the Secretary of Defense, while we're like picking. While there's like several major wars going on, like left the job for a month and no one noticed.

[C]

Yeah, first, he didn't tell anybody. And second, no one noticed. And third, he came back blacker than when he left.

[D]

He no called, no showed.

[A]

Lord.

[B]

I mean, like, like one of the things I used to talk about is like, well, who was in George Washington's cabinet, right? He had a part time patrinity. General Alexander Hamilton was the secretary of the treasury, he had a Secretary of State. He had a secretary of the Navy and a secretary for war, I think.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So no matter what you think of the federal government, like, the guy running the Defense Department is one of those important jobs. We can argue about whether we need the Department of Education or not. But if George Washington thought, I need a guy in charge of the military, it's probably a pretty important job. I'm just saying, like, there's continuously been a guy in charge of, you know, defense of the nation. What? I mean, what, the dude left the job for a month and didn't tell anybody. And we're supposed to be like, oh, yeah, we're going to start a war with Russia and China and Iran all at the same time.

[D]

His dad went out for a pack of cigarettes and never came back. I guess he figured a month wasn't too long. He was figured,

[C]

Wow, that was racist.

[D]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[B]

But true, like, and this is the,

[A]

like,

[B]

you know, have you seen, have

[C]

you seen the things where people are showing pictures of him before? And these aren't pictures where he's like, like speaking or under lights. It's pictures of him where he's actually doing just regular everyday stuff before and after. And he's actually like blacker now and his ears have completely changed. I, I don't put it past that. They're just with us at this point. I'm convinced there's five Bidens there. There's been like five different Bidens. If you put in Joseph Biden into Google, hit Image and just start scrolling it, will you up, it will make you think, it'll make you question reality because there are pictures of Joe Biden in there that look nothing like the Joe Biden. You remember Joe Biden Now, I don't know if it's Mandela effect. I don't know what the fuck's going on. But there's some weird shit going on with this.

[D]

I'm sure they have body doubles. No doubt.

[B]

Well, like, can we talk about. I don't think I've ever talked about this. Okay. Pete, you and I talked privately. Like, we both knew that Barack Obama was in like 2007, right? Because of Larry Sinclair. Like, it just came out within the last six months that actually the crazy conspiracy dude who was like, Barack Obama's a K canyon. He does crack is actually true. And people just kind of went, oh, no big deal.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What the former President of the United States is, is. It is again, like, what? And I'm supposed to, I'm supposed To just sit here and be like, oh, yeah, this is. This is fine. Like, you know, dog in house burning meme.

[D]

But here's. Here's why it's a good thing. That's the next article. But here's why it's a good thing.

[B]

Here's why it's a good thing that, you know, Barack Obama, like, and I

[C]

knew Larry, I was telling people. People were looking at me completely insane in 2007, when I'm telling people, you know, there's this Larry Sinclair guy. People were like, are you. What's wrong with you? And I'm like, he offered to take a lie detector test, and no one. He's offered to pay for it. And no one wants him to take a lie detector test.

[D]

Yes, he's offered to pay for it. I didn't even hear that one. Right.

[B]

So, like, the media, right, covered up the fact that this dude was, you know, at least play both, you know, played both sides of it. We can talk about Big Mike another time. Right. Joan river says something and then she dies the next day. I'm a little suspicious, but. Right. Like, and this the same media that will cover up 60, you know. Oh, like 60 million. 60 million in sacrifices to Moloch in the United States is no big deal. You know, this dude's. This leading presidential candidate is gay. And we're supposed to just ignore all this? This is. I mean, we kind of talked around it a bunch of. But the real reason. And I mean, Jose, I've read all

[A]

your work

[B]

for the last several months, and it's outstanding. I strongly recommend people follow Jose and read all of his. All his writing as well as Pete's. But, like, you should be, you know, Pete should have his own Sunday morning show. You know, like, you know, load the press at some, you know, at, you know, 10:00am on Sunday with Pete Canones. Right. Like, hate the. Hate the Press with Pete Canones. It's Sunday mornings at 10 where, you know, Pete just hosts panel discussions like this one or others and. And, you know, weekly. Right. Like, if we had an honest media, you know, Peter'd be running his own Sunday show. You'd be, you know, the leading opinion columnist in major newspapers all over America. You know, instead of that absolute moronic mediocrity, what's the blowhard with New York Times Lexus in the olive tree. I can't remember his name. Friedman. Yeah. Instead of Friedman, you know, you'd be writing leading editorials for people because you actually tell the truth and are, you know, an engaging writer as Opposed to being boring and dumb. I mean, it's one thing to be boring. It's nothing to be dumb.

[D]

It's.

[B]

It's a whole nother thing to be.

[D]

Like, if you got to be one, at least don't be the other.

[C]

Right?

[D]

I got you.

[B]

And. And it is precisely because their lies are falling apart, like, in front of your face. Like, you can't tell me that, like having the door fall off an airplane mid flight where they got a bunch of video on it, like, oh, this is fine. This is good. This is, you know. Oh, hey, excuse me. Aren't there supposed to be, like, rivets in that hole in the wing and the airplane that keep the airplane attached to the rest of the plane? Oh, yeah, actually, that. That's a good idea. We should do that. Like, I haven't been really following this thing with. With Mark Cuban on Twitter, but like.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Like when a bloodthirsty maniac with billions of dollars is like, you know, actually, instead of being grateful that, like, my family fed the plo, fed the programs in Ukraine, and, like, we got here, and I made billions of dollars by, you know, arbitraging, you know, computer stuff through Taiwan, whatever, instead of being grateful, he's like, I hate all of you and want you to die. Maybe, you know, people should actually pay attention. Be like, why is this guy saying this? Why does he feel like he can sit here and like, threaten Americans when. When America's been nothing but good, you know, to Mark Jabotinsky? He's gotten fame and fortune. He's, you know, on Shark Tank, and he's. He's got all these things, you know, he's successful television show. He owns the Dallas Mavericks. He's got billions of dollars.

[C]

Oh, and by. And by the way, he didn't buy the Dallas Mavericks. What's her. What was Trump's benefactor's name? The. The Jewish gambling guy?

[A]

Oh, Sheldon Adelson.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

His what?

[C]

His wife. Adelson's wife bought the Dallas Mavericks and put it in Mark Kamenisky's name.

[B]

Oh, okay. So, yeah, so he can engage in financial fraud to the tune of billions of dollars. And like. Like, I can't. I can't use.

[C]

Well, you don't have. You don't have the press running, you know, running interference for you 24 7.

[B]

Yeah, that's the. That's it.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, it's the narrative. It goes back to the narrative. I don't know. Do you. Do you know Josh Neal?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. American extremist.

[C]

Good book. You speak well, got an episode with. Coming out with him tomorrow. And, you know, we're going to be talking about individualism, anarchism and psychopathy. But we're, but we're going to do an episode soon about narrative American extremists, you know, because that's one of the big things he talks about in the beginning of it. It's the narrative. Who owns a narrative? Who runs a narrative? It's something I was saying in 2020 when all this was happening. Who owns a narrative? Well, if you do not have control over the narrative, if you can't put your own narrative out there and it can't go wide, well, I mean, you're. Then maybe you're gonna have to just concentrate on a local narrative of some sort. Because, you know, I, I'm. I think that's pretty much where. Where all this breaks down in the future is going to be local, decentralized. And, you know, if we want our, you know, if you want. If De wants his. His NS society and, you know, I want whatever I want, it's gonna have to be local. And I think that's where all this is headed. I mean, not to. I'm just trying to steer this in a direction now because what we're talking about is. We're talking about chaos and everything is in chaos. And I think really the only way that we can possibly get order is locally. And. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm prepared to do. That's what I've been working on since I. Since I ended up in this and where I ended up. Thanks, thanks to Oliver Semiagog, who suggested the county and now lives 15 minutes away from me. So. And maybe we can start building our own little thing here.

[B]

Well, it's certainly. It's certainly not gonna. Planes ain't gonna be reliable for much longer there, Chief. Like, hate to break it to you, but unless something very drastic changes, you know, when the FAA is like, you know what we really need? More air traffic controllers of color and women like, and they publicly state this and you have, you know, pilot Shaniqua being like, even though I failed my first check ride. Like, for those of you who don't know what that is, that's like. That's like when you've gone through ground school and gone through the simulator and done everything you need to do, and then you actually take you up in a plane and like a guy who actually knows what he's doing, who was probably an Air Force naval aviator and has a couple thousand hours behind his. Under his Belt sits down and says, okay, you fly the plane. And then he watches you and goes, oh, hell no. And then takes the stick from you. That's what happened. Like, like when a guy who's like an instructor pilot tries to take you up on a plane and he goes, nope. And then takes the plane from you.

[C]

That's bad.

[B]

Okay. And you know, oh, I still get to fly. Like, what, you failed a check ride? Like, you need to go, but you literally need to go back to school. Like, this is not acceptable. Like you don't know what you're doing. Stop.

[A]

You got to expand on the localism theme I think we're talking about. With the collapse of infrastructure. This is another thing that many people are taking for granted. Like cheap, reliable travel and just like, like a functioning, like infrastructure system. It's just gonna compel a lot of people now to do much more like activism and outreach in meat space irl because you're just not going to be able to do all this, like, fancy traveling to meet up with people and all that stuff as reliably as before. So you're going to be forced to like, interact with your immediate community. And it could get so bad that like, I could foresee a scenario where people will just have to like, not only downsize a lot of like, their lifestyles, but they may have to like go much more primitive. And then they will have to start banding together and do a lot and focusing much more with like, physical type of interactions. Because I do think that in my time in working in politics, especially whether it's like in Conservatism Inc. Libertarianism, it's been an extremely online and because of now of this

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[A]

21 plus terms and conditions apply. Upcoming system collapse. It's going to go literally back to basics and part of that's going to be just going much more local.

[C]

Yeah, you know, we. We found out on our property there was this little hole in what is a driveway, but it was really just a dirt driveway that leads up to the carport. And after a really huge rain, it expanded and it's perfectly circular and it looks like we have a well. It looks like there was a hand dug well and everything. And all I could think was competency crisis, people suck. I don't know if people are. I can rely on the government getting water out here at all. We have a backup now. It's like, okay, I have a hole in my driveway, but it also might be a backup. I mean, you just gotta look at the, at the silver linings of some things at this point, especially like free water. Yeah.

[B]

And, and the, the other thing that, you know, Jose's worked in. There are many people who used to work in conservative politics that, that have

[C]

kind of

[B]

Kevin Dano, Paul Kersey, yourself, Jose, others. You know, the average Republican knows what I know, Kamala Harris knows what I know. You know, everyone knows what we know. They just lie about it. And rather than admit that like Martin Luther King wasn't a Christian, wasn't a good person, was a communist, you know, like, was a subversive, they would rather die like your average Republican politician. If he said like, like say Martin Luther King was a vile, godless communist, or I shoot your dog, they'd be like, shoot my dog.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Public publicly denounce Martin Luther King as a godless communist or I shoot your dog, they would be like, guess the dog's getting shot for 99% of them.

[A]

And

[B]

don't let, when a bus full of kindergartners gets hit by a train because the people who run things like let it happen or made it happen, don't let them get off easy because they all know what I know. I might talk about, I might opinionate more than they do, but like, they know, they just refuse to do anything about it because they would rather someone shoot their dog than tell the truth about Martin Luther King. When, when an old granny gets robbed and beaten half to death and you

[C]

know,

[B]

and carjacked, they know who's doing it. Niki Bukele proves that you can solve the problem. So they know and they just don't care because they, they'd rather bend to the narrative. And when you're down to just your local newspaper and you know, your local newspaper reporters, like, well, you saw it in Ireland, right? You know, the Irish were fighting. I don't know where the situation is. If you want to know more, you should probably follow Keith Woods. But I, I remember when things had just kicked off, there was a reporter who'd gone down to like one of the scenes and he just got bullied. All the Irish folks were like, you're a reporter get out of here. You need to leave.

[C]

Like, like, like.

[B]

And he was this, you know, you know, nerd in a bicycle helmet with a soy face and problem glasses. And, like, when this sort of stuff starts happening, you need to say, I told you so. You need to say, I told you so, because otherwise it'll keep happening when the conservative's like, well, I mean, maybe, I guess if we change this thing a little bit of copper white look. No, you need to make Franco look like a pussycat. If you. If you want running water and functioning roads and planes don't fall out of the sky and families to function and. And wars, you know, endless useless wars that have wasted trillions of dollars to stop, you need to make Franco look like a pussycat. And whatever.

[A]

However that.

[B]

Whatever that makes. Looks like for you locally, that's what you got to do. But, like, you know, K. Ivey, the governor of Alabama, I think that's right. She'll fold like a cheap suit. So the people of Alabama need to. The people of Alabama need to be like, look, you need. You need to make Jeff Davis look like a wimp or we're getting rid of you. Right? There's no. I mean, Jose, you tell me, but I've worked a little bit in politics, too, and for the most part, I mean, they're just cowardly.

[A]

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I would agree with your statement that these people actually do know, because I was actually at a Turning Point, um, event in December. Um, it's like, whole, like, America Fest thing. And if you talk to a lot of the attendees there, um, especially, like, the younger ones, um, it's like, abundantly clear they knew about. About the taboo issues ranging from like immigration to race. And even some of the actual Turning Point people, staffers and all of that that I would talk to. If you were able to pry deeply in the conversation, you would figure out pretty quickly that these people kind of knew what's up. It's just that, like, the punditry and, um, the party apparatchiks and like GOP and like Conservatism Inc. And the conservative media complex, they're largely just cowards and they're just toeing a line. But I think because of really the power of these ideas now, like, you are seeing people like Charlie Kirk pay nominal, like, lip service to these concepts. And it just goes to show that you have to keep pushing the envelope. And I. I learned this through gun lobbying, too, that in AGR, where I worked at, we were able to even change, like, the establishment gun lobbies behavior where they would bend to our will eventually. Because, like, one of the things we have to remember in politics is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease and you have to keep pushing the, um, pushing the issue. But, um, um, I do think, like, these ideas have already, like, they've largely won. Like what was mentioned earlier before, like Prop 187 was passed in California. Like, look at like pretty much all a lot of polling in general. Immigration restrictionist measures are, are one a lot. It's just that now the question is the question more of mobilization, how to like, best use our resources so that we can build a power base and then go from there to change policy and, and ultimately punish our opponents and all that.

[C]

I think we've gone long enough. I mean, we could probably stay here for another hour, hour and a half if we wanted to, but I think at this point we got everything off our chest. Let me ask you guys a question. When we did the race war in high school, like the postmortem on it, a couple people had said that we need to. These four people need to do this every month. Is that something you guys gonna be consider doing?

[D]

I'd be deeply honored and thrilled.

[C]

Well, not talking about, obviously not talking about race war, but just getting together and talking, you know, talking amongst ourselves and talking about what's going on. Yeah.

[B]

Beyond the wall slash donate. If you, you know, like

[C]

backslash support.

[B]

Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah, and I actually have that. I actually have that as Peter R. Quinones.com now.

[B]

Okay, well, whatever. Like, you know, read Jose's columns by Charles's books.

[C]

You know, support Jose too, man. Yeah, Jose has a substack. Subscribe his podcast recently have been fire his episode with Striker.

[D]

Don't miss it.

[C]

Don't miss it. Yeah, they talked about Sambart and Sambard is somebody that I've really gotten into in the last year and a half. And Werner Sombart was, you know, people. Oh, I had libertarians attacking me. He's a socialist and everything. I'm like, well, what does that mean?

[D]

Yeah,

[B]

privately, I'd appreciate it.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Send me a link privately, if you could. I really want to listen to that. You support the people that don't hate you. Yeah, like. Like it's really that simple, right? Yeah, really, like, like, you know, I. I reread one of Charles's books, the Callistic Guide to Suicide, about three weeks ago, and it's one of the wisest books I've ever read. You know, Pete's substack is there's some, some of my substacks where there's like, you have 37 unread articles. Every time Pete publishes something, I read it immediately. I'm, you know, Jose Substack is fantastic. This not like, not only, like Cantila Effects, like not only does bad money drive out good. Almost more important than that, bad information drives out good information. If you want to live in a functioning society where it has clean water and roads to function, the, the most important thing you can do as a listener to this program is spread good information. Spread some, you know, people subscribing to this show. Get people, you know, like if. Take everyone one notch further. If you got someone who's listening to Fox News, make sure they start listening, you know, to get them to listen to Tucker Carlson. If they're listening to Chuckle Carlson, get them, get them talking to Tom Woods. If they're talking to Tom woods, get them listening to Scott Horton and Ryan Dawson. If they're on those guys, you know, whatever. Like, get them better information that is replacing the bad information because that's how they control the narrative. So many people think that like Rachel Maddow is like a centrist, that, that, you know, the reliable, like she's not a far leftist. She's a, you know, kind of, you know, left liberal centrist type person, right? You know, the, the United States government destroyed German's industrial economy by blowing up a pipeline. And most people don't know about it.

[A]

It.

[B]

Most people don't know that Barack Obama's gay. Most people don't know that. Like the people who got killed in, in Jordan, right? Like they're there as an occupying force. We're starting a war with Iran and we have bases in Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Yemen. Like we have, you know, the, the U.S. navy, right. Bahrain. We have all this stuff there solely to do things like start a war with Iran. We, you know, Victoria New wins people, right? Like she started the war with Russia in 2014. How many people know that? I mean, Pete knows that.

[D]

Very few.

[B]

Right? You know, Jose knows that. Like we know that. But you know, and, and the war or the. I will bring this up again and then shut my mouth because I've talked too much tonight. The Institute of Historical Review has been telling the truth for over 30 years. Mark Weber should be a household name if America was a serious country.

[C]

And I will be. I will be talking to Mark Weber soon.

[B]

Awesome. In a, in a just world, you know, Mark Weber would be a household name. The only reason he doesn't have a Ph.D. is that no one would give him one. He's a scholar and a gentleman. The. The fact that. Well, no, seriously, Mark Weber, he, you know, he got a master's degree and then started telling the truth about some things, and then he just wouldn't get into a PhD program.

[C]

I'll tell the story about Mark Weber. I. I went to American Renaissance last year, and Mark Weber was there. I have never been speechless in front of somebody before. I just. I didn't know what to say to him because, I mean, when I started reading Mark Weber in 1998, he. It just changed my mind so much. It was. It shaped my mind in a way that I'll never be able to thank him. And that's what I told him. I said, I'll never be able to thank you for what, you know, what you did. And yeah, I don't miss his episodes with Frodi, which usually drop every Wednesday on the Guides of Culture channel.

[B]

Right. Yeah. And he would be a household name and he would have a Sunday show and he'd be the guy that. He'd be the, the expert that people talk to. Jose's. But again, like the. If you want Jose Nino to be the main opinion columnist in, you know, whatever replaces the Los Angeles Times or whatever replaces the Dallas Morning News, when those inevitably go, you know, then you need to support the people that support you and push people because the contradictions are all there. You can ask, you can ask Norman conservatives, why, why do we care about Iran's border or Jordan's border, but we don't care about the border with Texas? And there's a million. One of those things you can do. And if we replace the bad information with good information, people can slowly get to the truth. And, you know.

[D]

Yeah, I was just going to say, just to kind of riff off what you're saying very briefly. It's simply a matter of embrace the truth. The truth cannot set you free if you don't embrace it. If you flee from the truth, you cannot be set free. It's impossible. You cannot break free from where you are unless you're willing to engage with the truth. And the prison around you is nothing but lies. Unfortunately, lies are easily destroyed by the truth. But you have to be willing to face it.

[B]

It.

[D]

So even if, even if you don't, like 1, 2, 3, or all of us, it's irrelevant. We're not lying to you. That's why you should listen to Jose, to Pete, to D and to myself. We're not lying to you. Nobody's asking you even to like us. It's to. It's listen to us because we're not lying to you. And let. Let the truth shine through and you'll know it when you hear it. It's that simple. Don't flee from it. It.

[C]

Well, I will make sure to put DE I'll put your link to your Telegram channel in the show notes. Jose, all your stuff will be in the show notes.

[B]

What's it, what's the name of your.

[C]

The sub sack again?

[A]

Yeah, my sub stack is Jose Nino unfiltered. You can just go to josbcf.subsack.com to find it there and then that it also has my podcast El Nino Speaks, which you can download on itunes and Spotify as well.

[C]

Well, I appreciate you gentlemen and yeah, I would like to do this more often. At least once. Let's try for once a month.

[D]

If you yeah.

[C]

All like it.

[A]

Sign me up.

[C]

Does that seem okay, Charles?

[D]

Sounds great to me. I love the sound of it.

[C]

DE

[B]

I'd be flattered. I'm absolutely flabbergasted that anyone would want to hear me jaw some more, but thank you very much.

[C]

People love you, man. People love all of you. All right, appreciate it. Take care, guys.

[D]

God bless.

[C]

I almost feel like I can't do a proper introduction when I have these guys on. So once again, I have dark enlightenment. Charles Spadil, Jose Nino. We are going by the the name for this month. At least the thought Crime syndicate and DE came up with that. I thought it was great. But who wants to start talking about Haiti?

[D]

I think you should kick it off. Go.

[B]

D I just point out that before we talked on the call, Catherine Jean Pierre, the White House press secretary who I think can read but I'm not sure is the elite of this island. And I will kick it off with that like, like she's the high class one there.

[D]

Yeah, well I mean our elite isn't really much better air quotes around elite, of course heavily qualified. So I mean, yeah, that's. That seems to be an epidemic of all things. We got rid of the COVID air quote epidemic and now we have an epidemic of elites air quotes. So that's. That's sort of where we are, I suppose. And what I guess fraternity, Galate, all that stuff. I guess that's this, that's where this leads. This is where that leads.

[C]

I wanted to start off we can start getting into into what's going on there. But I've seen a lot of people making excus, especially libertarian types. Oh look how the United States is. This is what they've done, how they've interfered in it in Haiti over the past 10 years and 20 years and everything. If you really want to get a picture of Haiti, there's a book out. It's one of those forbidden books. It's by Hesketh Pritchard. It's called When Blacks, When Black Rules White. And it's the whole story of the 19th century of Haiti. Haiti won their independence in 1803, I believe it was. And it talks about after winning their independence the next century and how Hesketh Pritchard went there in, I think it was 1899. And what he witnessed and how if there had been such a thing as a slasher horror movie at the time, what he walked into was absolute chaos where you have these very black and mulatto. You have a very black and a mulatto population who. The mulattoes hate the black. The mulattoes hate the blacks, the blacks hate the mulattoes. The blacks took over rule and proceeded to. Any white people that were on the island, they complained, completely slaughtered, just killed them all and then proceeded to genocide the mulattos and a high stakes political affair.

[D]

I mean, a lot of people don't realize that.

[C]

What.

[D]

And I'm not trying to change the subject. I'm addressing the point you're raising specifically. A lot of people forget that in the US Constitution where when they put race, color and creed, that's exactly why they put color in there. Because if you talk to anybody in the black community or for African American community, then you're going to see that there is a lot of colorist in that lighter skin versus darker skin. Anybody that's intellectually honest, which, you know, that's basically us and you know, maybe 10,000 other people in this country. But anybody that's intellectually honest will tell you anytime around the black community that's still extant today.

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[D]

That's exactly why color is there. So I'm not surprised to hear that it was, it was a factor in the Haitian uprising or revolt or independence, whatever term we choose to use. So that's, that's an important note that people need to understand that colorism, colorists thinking is always present. It's omnipresent, it doesn't, it's not exclusive to any one community. And the other point I want to raise specifically is I can't recall the exact quote. Your listeners can look it up and maybe what, somebody can pull it up on the side if they have a better Internet connection than I do. But there's an actual quote by one of the revolutionary leaders in Haiti that was something like we should write our constitution on a white man's skin, use his skull as an inkwell and a bayonet for a pen and his blood for the ink.

[C]

So you look that up.

[D]

So again, I'm not surprised to find that that book discusses some serious horrors that were witnessed firsthand.

[B]

Well, you can't really understand the American Civil War without understanding that every single white planter like had nightmares of Haiti.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't even think of that. That's excellent point.

[B]

The revolution sent to me and there was a book that Turner. Yeah, and Nat Turner and like, so why were they so like insistent upon white supremacy? Because they saw what happened otherwise. Because there's a French, there's French and Spanish refugees from Haiti and elsewhere. Where were these uprisings who made it their way to New Orleans and Charleston with just horror stories. And I mean not to get too woo woo, but like Haiti was literally frowned by like a satanic demonic ritual where, where like the people of Haiti were like made a deal with a demon, like if we kill all the white people for you, you'll give us power. And they were like, yeah, sure, that since. And you can't live with people whose idea of politics starts with like making deals with devils and killing you.

[D]

Isn't that ironic that we're having the exact same problem now in America? So I mean, again, not to change the subject, but I think it's interesting that there's a direct, a direct correlation there with our Moloch worshiping again elite air quotes

[A]

to bring them back the point to libertarianism or whatever. There was one personal experience I had that really solidified my views on more like racialist politics. When I was living in Chile, I was working at this like free market think tank as like a translator. And there's this guy that was working next to a white Venezuelan guy who lived in chile for like 20 odd years or so and he went on a trip to the Caribbean, specifically to Haiti and Cuba. And his experience there was quite telling because during my libertarian phase I would be led to believe that like Haiti would be like the more prosperous, orderly society based on the fact that it doesn't have like a communist regime or whatever. But, but based on this guy's experience, he said like, he felt a lot safer. And he noticed that Cuba, Communism notwithstanding, was actually like more orderly, had better infrastructure than Haiti. And that really made me start to change a lot of my precepts and priors with respect to how I viewed politics there. And that was like. And the funny thing is too, Cuba has actually gotten wider over the last like 150 years because it used to be almost like 80% black in the middle 19th century. Yeah.

[C]

Huh.

[D]

I did not know.

[C]

You know, you know, what is really telling the. We all know that Israel has a very secure border around their country. Do you know what the securest border on the planet is? And I looked this up this week and it's pretty much unanimous.

[D]

Is it between Haiti and Dominican Republic?

[B]

Yep.

[C]

I was going to say, yeah, the Dominican Republic's border with Haiti, immediately people started, Haitians started fleeing to the, you know, the other side of Espanola. And the Dominicans were like, turn around or we'll shoot you. They don't want them anywhere near that. And now they don't fuck around. And for anybody who knows, the Doctor is not, not one of the safest places. I mean, there are some great resorts there, but there are some places you definitely don't want to go. And they're like, you can't come anywhere near here.

[B]

Well, yeah, I've heard the Doctor is described as mulatto white supremacists.

[A]

That's actually pretty accurate. Yeah.

[B]

And, and I mean, this is a country whose main export is baseball players. We're not talking about a wealthy place.

[D]

I was gonna say, I think a very small sideline is also cigars, but I think, I think that's about it.

[B]

So we're not talking about wealthy people, but Trujillo, the dictator from the early 20th century, is like, no, we have to, because we are what we are. We have to have, have a very, a system set up for the realities of what we're dealing with. Like, we don't have a lot of civilizational capital. We need to be very top down and manage our resources very correctly. And we cannot, cannot let Haiti sink us because the second we like even open the tap just a little bit, every Haitian will be here.

[D]

Yeah. Drinking from a fire hose at that, that point.

[B]

Right. And Pete, something you've been talking about Eric Prince a lot lately, and he said something, I think it was either his interview with Patrick David or BAP but basically all of these people are seeking governance by white people. Right.

[C]

That's.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Yeah, they want to live in societies run by white people, but they want a voice at the same time. Like, these are mutually contradictory. You just want. You want the peace, prosperity, good order, relatively fair courts and whatever of. Of white civilization, but you want to come here and then you want like a democratic saying the way things work and that's mutually.

[D]

Country.

[B]

Just look at the, you know, now falling apart case in Georgia with Fanny Willis and other stuff. Well, let's.

[D]

Let's be honest. Let's be honest. D. Sorry to cut you off, but just to kind of riff off of the point you're making, let's be honest, really what it is, it's just. Just a slightly modernized form of cargo cultism. It's just they want white people magic without white people. I mean, really, at the end of the day, that's what they want.

[B]

You're exactly right. And, and so, you know, Eric Prince is like, we need to recolonize these people. And you know, I think he was talking specifically about Africa. But you know, the U.S. marines like basically invaded Haiti and like took it over and ran it for twice in the 20th century and it still. Right. Like the best roads in Haiti are the ones that they built in the 30s.

[D]

Just probably the only roads at this point, if Africa is any. Yeah, if Africa is any indication, probably the only roads remaining. Isn't that the big point that's raised by the Chinese construction work Empire of dust?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

It says like the only thing standing is what somebody else built and even that's falling apart. That's his line. That's not my opinion. That's his as a boots on the ground guy in Africa. So go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off.

[B]

I actually did a pause button episode on that. If you look forward the pause button and empire dust. I. I actually did an episode on that many years ago. But like this, you can't write aa, you know, the America's one genuine spiritual innovation to the world. You can't solve a problem unless you deal. Like, unless you admit that there's a problem. Right. And you know, our regime is actual purpose is never admitting like actively suppressing the truth that people aren't equal.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Ideological. The Nuremberg regime's point is we can't admit that there are real differences and that people are different. Otherwise, you know, all the, all the war crimes we pulled like firebombing Dresden and torturing people is no longer morally legitimate. And so like, it's literally an existential crisis for these guys that if you even question whether or not like cannibal demon worshipers should be allowed to like, be flown, you know, into your neighborhood and the government, I mean, that's, that's for Joe Biden and for the democratic regime that we live under. If they admit that Haitians are awful and no one should want to live around them, not even other Haitians. It's just, it's that first domino.

[D]

Right.

[B]

You know, you guys have all seen the memes. Like, like Zoe Quinn cheats on dude and then like complete, total, you know, the domino meme.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Yep. I'm familiar with you talking about. Yeah.

[B]

You know, like that's, that's literally what they're worried about right now.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Is the second you admit that, like, hey, maybe people who worship demons and are cannibals and are violent and shouldn't be like allowed to go to my children's high school, you know, like, you know, this 23 year old dude is like, I'm 17, you know, shouldn't be allowed around my, you know, 13 year old daughter at middle school.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You mentioned Eric, you mentioned Erik Prince. And I've been listening to him a lot lately. He's come back on the scene and been doing, started his own podcast off leash. I think everybody should listen to it. The last episode he did, he did an episode on Haiti and he shared some personal experiences that he's had there. A lot of people will be like, well, you know, he's just this mercenary guy. Erik Prince never had to work a day in his life. His dad invented like that, I think the visor in the car, the light that goes behind it, you know, the light behind it. I think his dad invented that. He's basically admitted he'll never have to work. He never had to work another day in his life. He joined the SEALs. He joined the military. He saw inefficiency everywhere and he decided to start his own private company. And a lot of people have, oh, well, they killed. There was that incident where they killed civilians. It's like the military, the volunteer military does that on a weekly basis, on a monthly basis. Okay. So they're actually much better at what they do because they know that they can get fired. And then he sold the business and now he's back out there. And I encourage people to go listen to him. When he says, we want to colonize Africa. It's not because he's a neocon, it's not because he wants the military industrial complex to make money. He doesn't like the military industrial complex. He would rather those contracts go to. He's talked about how the F35 project and how inefficient it is, how much money has been sunk into it.

[D]

It.

[C]

He's somebody who's talking about foreign policy, who's actually making sense. When he talks about the danger of China, when he talks about why Africa should be colonized. I mean, this is stuff that Yaqui was talking about. I mean, there is a problem if China is one of the things. If China takes over Africa like they're doing, they could just unleash more Africans upon Europe and just completely overrun it even worse than it is now. They could unleash it upon here. There's reasons for all these things. But to get back to Haiti, one of the things he's talked about, his latest episode, I think it's called the Purge or something, and it's all about Haiti. But one of the things people have to understand about Haiti is the average IQ in Haiti is 67. Okay. People can make all the excuses about IQ. Doesn't mean anything. I mean, you're just. You're out of your mind. You're somebody who has a 67 IQ. I don't even know if they can be prosecuted for a crime in this country.

[B]

I don't know if it even. IQ measurements break down at the edges.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

You know, like, really, you know, what's the difference? Like, can you really measure the difference between someone, like you have 190 and a 195? I mean, really, it's very difficult. Right. You know, 67 is so low. It's like, how do you even tell the difference between, like, is this person sentient or not? Like, seriously, this is not a. A digger, any kind of insult or anything, but like, is this person capable of sentient thought? I mean, it's a serious question that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, below 60, and if the average is 67, you know, a significant chunk of the population is going to have an IQ below 60. I mean, are they even sentient?

[D]

Right.

[B]

I'm not a psychologist, I'm not an expert to talk about this, but, like, at what point do you go, is this person.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, and immediately people are like, oh, we need to bring them here. And it's like, I lived. Look, I lived in South Florida for a very long time. I lived in South Florida for almost 20 years. That's where the biggest Haitian community is. And I'm going to say It. I knew a lot of Haitians that were really nice people, but for the most part, they're very unintelligent. And this is what Haitians were telling me. It was observable, but this is what Haitians would tell me. The Haitians that I knew, who had higher iq, who owned their own businesses, who I did business with, they said most of these people should not even be here. They said they do not. They couldn't pass. He says, I don't know how they have driver's licenses because they couldn't pass a driving test even if it was in their own. Even if it was in their own language. So he's just assuming that people are just given driver's licenses down there.

[B]

There.

[C]

And that's what I mean, how many? You already have tons of them. Lake Worth, Florida, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Pompano beach, all these places and everything. And there is a. A good deal of crime in their neighborhoods. I mean, and they're immediately. You knew when this jumped off, the first thing I thought was, okay, well, it's about time that this happen, because this has been boiling over for a decade. But second, I'm like, they're going to want them to bring them here.

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[C]

And you know what do you. Where are they gonna put them? Where we know exactly.

[D]

We know exactly where they're. Yeah, come on. We know exactly where they're going to put voting blocks. Yeah, they're going to put up the breakup voting blocks. That's where they're going to put them. I mean, I understand what the question you're really asking is, you know, why they have no place here. Where do they belong? But we know where. Where they're going to put them. And I mean to go back to Dee's point about the 67 IQ. And again, I'll. I'll follow along with you, D. In the sense that this isn't even about malice. I'm not even criticizing. I'm just pointing out, like, picture the slowest kid in your class in high school. And how much they would drag down the process and realize he's probably two standard deviations smarter than 67. Like, just think about that. And then extrapolate that to a civilizational level. We'll go back to your point, Pete, about the driver's license. Like, okay, now extrapolate that to plumbing, electricity, all of that. Like, just think what's going to happen when even 10 to 15% of your population is 67 IQ. It's all going to grind to a halt. Well, I, I can't understand why we're surprised that planes are literally falling out of the air at this point. It's like that's, that's not at all. I. Matter of fact, I remember when I was on my way to Japan with my father for a trip in 2019 when we had to go through the security theater in the United States of tsa. Excuse me one moment. Pardon me. With the security theater in tsa. And I remember just thinking, I think I said this loudly in public. I was like, why are we doing this? What's the point? We just import people and then let them work on the planes. And then sure enough, if you look up in the news, like a few days after I left in September of, of 2019, some guy in Florida where I flew out of, some guy, some Muslim that we let in took, started to sabotage planes and they caught him. And I was just like, see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. But. And that's somebody that was intentionally sabotaging. Now just imagine all the people that due to DEI requirements, we have to hire. And it's like, no wonder planes are falling out of the sky. Wait till buses start losing wheels in the middle of the street and swerving into your grandmother waiting at the bus stop. Like, that's just what's gonna happen.

[B]

Boeing. There was an expose recently that the, the guy who died, right, who shot himself twice in the head, the whistleblower. That's a little scary, but yeah, right. Hillary Clinton was nowhere. Was has an alibi, right? Anyway, there was some hidden camera type footage of the Boeing plant. And lest I be accused of racism, there were a lot of really trashy white people who are like, oh, no, people are on drugs. Once you lower the tone of the society, once you make it more present oriented, less cape. There's a lot of people who could have been productive, say 50 years or 60 years ago or 70 years ago in the 1950s, who were just, you know, kind of working class trash, who would spend all their paychecks on booze but could be reliably, you know, counted on to show up to work five days a week and built the American west, dude.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Like, look up the history of boom towns. That. That's literally who you're talking about. But go ahead. Yeah. Prove your point.

[B]

That was to prove I know some of these people.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, right now, right, They're. They're high on weed. They. They do other drugs because our society has been lowered. You know, we've normalized marijuana to the point where it's not even really a crime anymore in most states. I mean, huge chunks of, you know, human. Many states have legalized it. And, you know, are you surprised that this. This society is no longer capable of building complex machinery, you know, like WD40 as the. As the lubricant or.

[C]

No.

[B]

Of dawn dish soap. As the. As this in the seals on the doors.

[A]

Are you.

[B]

Are you high? Oh, wait, yeah, they are high.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Why?

[B]

They, like. Yeah. Like, oh, hey, yeah, dawn soap. It'll. It'll take care of, you know, oil slicks off a duck's back. Wash your chicken.

[D]

Just the. Just the spicy. Make sure you get the spicy brand, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, yeah, in terms of this regression.

[B]

Flaming hot Cheeto flavor.

[D]

Yeah, Cheeto flavored Dawn soap.

[A]

I would also add that when it comes to, like, Haitian mass migration and other, like, permutations of, like, third world migration, you're. It's. It's just like, an invitation for the resurgence of medieval disease epidemics. Like, realize this. But, yes, that in Chile, they had a pretty nasty wave of Haitian mass migration from, like, 2013 until, like, 2020. And for the first time in, like, over a century, they had, like, the first cases of, like, leprosy break out because of that. And, like, people don't get this, that everybody's obsessed about, like, novel viruses, like the sweet and sour sickness and all that. But, like, I'm more afraid of the type of, like, medieval diseases that are supposedly eradicated in the west coming back because of the fact that we're just importing, like, the trash heaps of all. Of all the global south and something that is not.

[D]

You're 100% right, Jose. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. You're 100%. I'm just emphatic that in my support of what you're saying, that's why I was so eager to jump on, because I worked for immigration for almost a decade, and that's one of the things that I've been trying to scream about. And getting people to understand. I think it's just so absolutely indicative that we live in a serious clown world. To borrow a my posting career term, we live in an absolute clown world that we just got done undergoing. Again, my. My fingers are going to break by making so many air quotes. Pandemic of COVID where we all were masked and boosted and all this nonsense, and now we're just letting the entire third world come in bringing whatever infections they have. And to continue with your point, Jose, you are 100% right. We saw leprosy come back. We're going to start seeing the bubonic plague come back. You're going to start. Matter of fact, we'd almost completely gotten. People don't realize this. We'd almost completely gotten rid of bedbugs in the continental United States. Almost completely gotten rid of them. And now they're back. Now they're back bigger than ever. Because again, people are bringing them in. People don't understand that civilization is only 20% innovation. It's 80% maintenance. And if people don't maintain the. The things that they have, the levels of cleanliness that they have, then it all goes back to. To use your term, to a medieval disease level. And that's. I couldn't possibly support you more, Jose. Everything you said is 100% right. And that's why it drives me crazy that these people like, oh, Covid, Long Covid. It's like, bro, you're going to get the plague in a couple months. Yeah, like Ninja. What are you talking about? Like, the sniffles are the least of your worries.

[B]

Have you seen what happens when people don't have clean water? Do you know what mass dysentery does to people?

[D]

Yes. Like, people don't understand. Like, I almost. I almost. I literally almost died. I was unconscious for 36 hours, and then six months later, my appendix ruptured and I almost died on the table. And that's just because I had a bad flu. Now, to be honest, I was in terrible shape. I was. I was an alcoholic. I had made a lot of bad choices up to that because my life fell apart. But the show isn't about me. I'm just saying that, like, you don't need the bubonic plague to kill you. You can die of dysentery, as Dee just said. You could die of diarrhea. You can die of all these other things. If you're. If your level of cleanliness and your personal health isn't that great, you'd be surprised just how much out there is Waiting to get rid of, of you, waiting to take you off the planet.

[B]

Some of you guys might remember the big earthquake that happened, Teddy, about 15 years ago, right? The, the UN brought, you know, dysentery to Haiti and now it's endemic because of some peacekeepers from, I think Nepal who wouldn't, you know, who weren't clean and then use the rivers. Now it's in the rivers in Haiti and, and Port au Prince has millions of people and no sewers. And you're bringing people who live in a gigantic slum with millions of people and no sewers to America and expecting things to work out like you're gonna get, you're gonna have outbreaks of dysentery in South Florida. Dysentery, basically. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Pete, but basically Florida is just, basically a big swamp from about, I don't know, Jacksonville down, like the entire panhandle of Florida is just a gigantic swamp, right. Can you imagine how bad things will get if you get dysentery in that? Like just. Oh God, good. In that.

[D]

Gracious.

[B]

Endemic to the swamps of Florida. It's a disaster.

[C]

No, it's, I mean it's, it's horrifying down there because it's just so hot and it's so wet. It's like if a, if a flu does, if something breaks out down there, it's just, it sticks around forever because there's no place for it to hide. I mean, you have to wait for, you know, hopefully a 60 degree day or something like that. But, but the one thing I did want to say is that, that when, when Erik Prince talks about colonizing Africa, I mean he's really talking about. What he's talking about is looking at them as children and even having an attitude of like noblesse oblige where it may be our duty to try and do something for these people. But the problem is, is we've tried that before.

[D]

Yes, thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

And I, when you look at Haiti, it's like, okay, you're, you would literally, if the, if the average IQ is 67, you would have to bring people in there, they would have to create industry, they would have to run the industry. And basically these people, all they would be is a, is a class of people who walk up with a bowl and saying, thank you, please may I have some more?

[B]

So I did, I did a quick Excel calculation. Pete, Norm disk, for those of you interested in. You can kind of just check how much of a population is below a certain IQ. You entered the mean and all that. 32% of the people in Haiti with an average AQ of 67 and assumed. I don't want to hear standard deviation of 15, which is, you know, the normal.

[C]

Right.

[B]

32% of the people there have an IQ below 60.

[D]

Jeez. Right.

[B]

So I mean, it might be more, it might be less, but you're talking about a. A substantial chunk of the population somewhere between 20%, 30%, 40%, maybe as much as half. That is literally too dumb to do anything. The United States military found that if you have an IQ below 83, they can't train you for anything useful.

[D]

Yep, I remember that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And this is, this is why what we're doing talking about so important because Jordan Peterson will bring that up. Well, you know that the US military's found that no one with an IQ below 83 is capable of doing anything useful in the military. Untrainable. This is a really severe problem because that's a substantial part of the population. Okay, Jordan, but who is it? And then what do we do with viable.

[A]

If you hit them a constitution, it'll boost their IQ though.

[D]

Rub some magic dirt on it, coach? Is that what you're saying?

[B]

Exactly right.

[D]

And D, just to step back to something very, very briefly, you were talking earlier about how this is an existential crisis for the globalists in the sense of once they admit that there are differences, everything starts to fall apart. Right. You recall mentioning that earlier in the program. Well, I mean, this is just more proof in the pudding of that. In that what, what are you going to do with these people? Eventually you have to realize that. That your way of life can no longer exist if these people are here. And I'm not even referring to anyone specific when I say these people, I just mean a basic incompatibility of civilizations. And that's why the big tent. I think we're seeing the big tent beginning to collapse because more and more people are saying, you know, X population is just completely incompatible with Matt and there is no way around has to be confronted and one will defeat the other. You can't just keep propping up the weaker parts of it and kind of use that to segue back to point Pete was making about Erik Prince and saying that we need to the noblesse oblige and this paternalistic attitude. Well, paternalism is great, but keep it to your own family. Otherwise it's a waste of. At best, it's a waste of resources. At worst, you're just opening the door to future problems. If you want to go to a foster home and get and pick up kids and you know, try and help them out and raise them. That's great, that's sweet of you. But understand that that's going to be bringing a lot of problems into your home because they aren't of your blood, they aren't of your, your foundation and they may be incompatible with you. And that's not to say that charity is a bad thing necessarily. But what I'm trying to say is a paternalistic attitude in the 19th century is exactly what got us where we are today. I mean think of how many people built hospitals and roads and everything in the 19th century and they're all gone. They're just all completely. What was the point of that? Let's look back at race war in high school, the episode that I appeared on talking about what happened to my family and the families of countless others that spent their lives teaching in these, these institutions. Like where did that go? Okay, so now my father doesn't have a relationship with his own children. You know, we were all sacrificed on the altar of diversity. Where's this paternalism getting anybody? Is it really helping the people that you're over whom you're being paternalistic? Probably not. Or if it is, it's for a very limited time and it's hurting the people that you should be paternalistic to your own children, either metaphorically in the sense of your nation or yourself literally as in your own children.

[A]

I'll exercise my autistic anarcho capitalist past for today. I think that there is some validity to Eric Prince's venture at a like privatized scale in Africa in concurrence with like a proper like immigration patriot order where we just have huge fences against Haiti and other denizens of the third world, where I think that there is probably a role for like highly competent private like military institutions and advisory institutions to at least like somewhat stabilize these countries and all, all while we have like strong borders. But I do agree that I think like these mass scale colonial like paternalistic ventures like conducted by states and whatnot, we've already tried that. The west has tried that with. Then it's, it's just not work.

[B]

It's not very sustainable.

[A]

But I do think that there, there might be like a role for some of these privatized ventures. But I think that ultimately we have to focus on our civilizations first before we start talking about like, I don't know, preserving like wildlife in Africa and all this other. Because yeah, but I do think this is a telling Moment, though, with the whole Haitian crisis, because these people, these parasites that lord over us use every possible crisis abroad to just justify bringing in like migrants no matter what. And, and this case is very telling because I think like, just bringing in like masses of Haitians and Africans is like an accelerationist version of mass migration that will put massive strain on the system and bring out about possibly a mass die off because of like, just as we mentioned before about the medieval diseases and whatnot and already like questionable health of the general American populace. Like, this is not something to talk about lightly, whatsoever.

[C]

Well, I know that Prince has brought up Hernando de Soto and his book the Mystery of Capital and the work that DeSoto was able to do, I mean, notwithstanding his, not to mention his support for nafta, the creation of nafta, but the work he did in Peru helping them to basically institute a, a modern kind of economic system. I mean, I believe he thinks that good can be done and that at least if we try to help that. It's like when I look at Haiti, it's like at this point it's either we do something there and the country does something there, the government does something there, or they're going to come here, here, I don't think.

[D]

Or we sink boats. I mean, that's bad.

[B]

Trucks get well fed.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, but, you know, but, but they're going to get, they're, they're going to get. They'll have Coast Guard cutters bringing them here. Okay. I mean, that's the way it worked. That's, that's the way it worked in 1979, 1980. Okay. So something, something needs to be done. I mean, they've, it can't be the Clinton foundation because we know that was just a, basically a pedophile outfit. It turned into pedophile tourism for all of their friends. But, but I mean, yeah, that was, but the. Something's going to have to be done. And I mean, I, I just don't know what it is because how do you, you can bring there. We know that there were, there were lower IQ civilizations that have, you know, South Korea. South Korea. 100 years ago, the average IQ was insanely low and now it's, it's gone up. Okay. It can happen. It, it's not, they're not stuck there. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, but Korea has also gotten so smart. They're going to like be gone.

[C]

Well, that's the problem.

[B]

They got too smart for their own.

[C]

That's the problem. Using neoliberalism. That's the problem with Using neoliberalism as the answer.

[B]

Haram, the terrorist group in North Africa. It literally means female education is forbidden in their, their local, I think Wolof language.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And actually the, the. They're not wrong because female education is, is the number one predictor of like, lack of fertility. Eric Prince has 12 children. Children. And he's been married three times. His first wife died of cancer in her late 30s, which is pretty tragic, but then.

[D]

Yeah, very tragic.

[B]

So if everyone did what he did, right, had had tons of money and like a bunch of kids, we could, you know, like, we could provide good governance to all these people. But all 12 of Eric Prince's children are going to be necessary in the United States just to keep the lights on here. Here. Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not possible for, you

[C]

know, but the most important thing was

[B]

born in South Africa and was. Is English as anyone, because England had planted itself in Kenya, in South Africa, in, you know, all these other Australia. And because everyone had six, seven, eight, nine, ten children.

[D]

Right.

[C]

The most important thing is you want to make sure that they're not coming here. And one of the ways that if you had a regime that had a. That wasn't running on this obsolete software and hadn't just adopted hatred towards everything that the country was founded upon, you could figure out a way to keep them there and make it so that at least they don't want to come here. At least. Or, or. And be able to suppress anybody who would be. Who would want to bring them here for nefarious purposes. But, you know, we're not, we're not there. And, you know, I guess that I'll try to use that as a segue into something that I wanted to talk to De about because I released an episode this. This week with. Goes by Cat girl Coolock gentleman, he lives in Canada, uses the whole cat girl thing as a way to try to throw off the doctors. Probably he's doing pretty good so far, so I'll give it to him. But the episode was basically talking about the entitlement problem here. And one of the problems. And I'll link this to what we were just talking about. One of the ways they say, oh, well, the way we're going to solve this entitlement issue is because white people aren't having enough kids. We need to import more people in here and that'll solve the problem.

[A]

One billion Americans.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's interesting because this goes back to our race war in high school episode. I think it was chapter seven People you and I were talking about it. The ridiculous pensions that the teachers had to be given in order to go teach in these jungle schools. That's now the fruit of that, 50 years later, is what's, you know, causing the entitlements crisis. The Nuremberg regime is built on not acknowledging certain realities about, well, biology really. It's funny.

[D]

It's funny you bring that up, D. Just because I was just talking to my dad yesterday and he was saying how he's so glad that he made the choices he did because his pension's been so good now because he's. He'll be 86 this year. And he sees all these other people, his in his age bracket, that are still. Those that are still alive, obviously, that are struggling. And I'm just like, well, dad, good for you.

[C]

What about the rest of us?

[D]

You know, because they bribed you and you took it and, you know, we're. We're all struggling now. Your own kids, your own nieces, your own nephews. And he's like, oh, oh, wait, yeah. He's like, yeah. I didn't even realize that. It's like, huh, huh. So, yeah, okay, Boomer, you're not wrong. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. That's to give you, like, at least anecdotal proof of what you're saying.

[B]

I'm familiar. It's. And, you know, California is completely broke. It's one of the reasons I left there. Illinois, New Jersey, New York, like, they're all completely underwater. And. Pete, did you want me to get into why all these cities are going to go broke real quick, or is that something?

[C]

Yeah, go ahead. No.

[B]

Okay, so I'm going to condense this as much as possible and try and limit my tism. But let's just say that there's a town outside of Atlanta that they're going to build a new suburb, and they're going to call it Peachtree Acres. And there's a thousand houses in there, and they each pay a thousand dollars a month or a thousand dollars a year in property taxes, just as for ease of math. So that's a million bucks. Okay. And the city is like, we need new growth and development. We'll put in this suburban house, But it costs $10 million to put in all the housing, all the streets, all the roads, you know, to a thousand families. Right? That's, you know, at one and a half kids per family, that's 1500 kids. That's two new elementary schools, a fire station, a police station, you know, whatever, a mini mall, you know, A Walmart. All this stuff grows up around Peachtree Acres and is necessary for, you know, new schools and what have you. So this everything else costs $10 million. That's 10 years of the taxes that, you know, area pays to replace everything in the 20 years it takes to when you need to replace all the pipes and everything else, assuming a constant cost and no inflation in materials costs and everything else, which we all know is not the case.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Well, that means that other 10 years of revenue needs to do things like pay for the new school, the fire station, the police station, the teacher salaries and everything else. And basically, cities have been papering over this difference between how productive the suburb is with how, how much it costs with bonds and further expanding the growth. And cities and states can't print money. So modern monetary theory might or might not be true, but it certainly doesn't apply to say, the state of, of Florida or the state of Georgia. And when, you know, a thousand Haitians move in to mangrove acres in West Florida and they're paying a thousand dollars a month in property taxes and all this other stuff.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Not only are they not paying for themselves, but over time, and not only are they probably going to be a burden because of their low IQs, but the teachers at the school that teach the Haitian kids their pension, Right. Just adds to the crisis more because that they're not gonna, though that community is not going to pay, not only for itself in terms of like pipes and roads and everything else. The things for like the school, the teachers, pensions, they're not going to be able to cover that even if they were, you know, 100 IQ white people, let alone, you know, 67 IQ or 80 IQ Haitians. So each one of these kind of crises all roll together into a thing where we're, we're out of money and we're running out of productive people who could cover them, you know, cover the bill.

[D]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

It doesn't matter where Haitians live. They're never going to be a net again.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Maybe one out of 10 of them meets at 85 IQ fret threshold for being a productive member of society. And that number is not going to go down as AI and cnc. Like that number has been creeping up of like threshold of minimum threshold of IQ in order to be a productive citizen is not going down. It's going to go up until things fall apart and then it's, you know, then we'll see. And it's mad max. But, you know, jobs, janitor jobs are getting cognitively demanding because you're asked to do all this stuff with machines and computers and, you know.

[D]

Yeah. Not to do, not to derail your thought, but just to ask onto it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Just look at auto mechanics as a perfect example. Look how technologically advanced that's become. It used to be working on a basic engine and now you have a great deal of computer work alongside it. So. Please continue. I was just trying to get so. Just trying to.

[B]

It doesn't matter. Like the very nature of the state and local governments is doomed to fail. And when, you know, the teachers union is in a fight with the firemen's union, which is in a fight with the, you know, prison guards union for the last dime that California or Illinois has, because we're coming to that fairly soon. You know, by 2030, that's not that far away. You know, six years from now, They're not only gonna be like, much less effective at their job, but it's gonna be the, the dominant crisis in our state houses, you know, because every state house in America has one or two people who are. Might as well just say, you know, from the nea, you know, tattooed on their face. They're not there to represent anybody, but they're, they're the teachers unions. Man in the state house or woman, most likely.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Or the prison guards union. You know, the correction officers are a very powerful union in the state of California.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And they get what they want. So you're gonna have all of these groups, instead of actually solving problems, they're going to be fighting over the scraps. We're at the looting stage and things. A state government that's busy making sure that, you know, the teachers union gets their piece of the pie and the correction officers union gets their piece of the, of the pie and the firefighters and the police and whoever, like all of these different groups that are at the trough. Hey, guys.

[A]

It is Ryan.

[B]

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[D]

And keep in mind, too, again, not to derail your point, but keep in mind, too, that's just what we're hearing, you know, that.

[B]

That's just what makes, that, that's just

[D]

what makes the, that's just what manages to make our section of the news any. I, I flatter myself that, that all of our listeners are well aware of their own workplaces, what they do for a living, their own industries, etc. Where they know how many things just get swept under the rug because somebody doesn't want to fill out the paperwork, the company doesn't want the attention, et cetera, et cetera. I don't care if you're in, in security, you're in manufacturing, you're in civil engineering, it doesn't matter. I'm sure every guy seated at this table metaphorically knows that a significant percentage of the problems that we, that they encounter just get swept under the rug and everybody moves on. So again, not to belabor a point, just to tie it back up, that's just what we're hearing about Boeing. So can you only imagine by an order of magnitude, probably multiple orders of magnitudes, how much is really happening?

[B]

Yeah, it's. And again, you know, it's existential for the regime to not tell the truth about this stuff, because the second you did, you'd have to admit a bunch of stuff that they don't want to admit. Right. Can, can, you know, look me in the face and tell me Kamara Harris is capable about being honest about race and sex? I mean, I would just laugh you out of the room, right? Like, she, she, she can't because to admit that, like, she made her bones on her knees and that she's dumb and stoned all the time, and part of the reason she's dumb and stoned all the time is that she's a girl and that she's not white,

[D]

you

[C]

know, she, I will say, I, I will say this. You know, after talking to Kulak this week and De told me about that episode and told me about the substack that he had written, and I immediately reached out, really the only way for them to kick the can down the road that I can see. And maybe I know De and Jose, you, you were econ nerds at one Point just like me really the only way that, that I see that they can do this, and I'm not advocating it obviously is through MMT and central bank digital currency. That's the only way they can kick the can down the road for any period of time on this because they're just going to have to print the entitlements and we know what's going to. And it'll have to be digital. They can't have people hoarding cash anymore. It's the only way they're going to do it. And you know they do at that point you do, they do risk having revolutionary action taken probably more on a local level in certain places. But at that point also maybe people just won't because they know that this is the only thing that can keep them going. And maybe people are just so bad off at that point, they'll look at this upon this as if it is the cure to everything

[A]

that's possible.

[B]

I mean, you know, not to get too tin foily, but what was covet but a bioweapon aimed at old people to take China's old people problem and, and shift that, you know, five, 10 years into the future.

[D]

Exactly right.

[B]

I mean that, that's what it was, was a, a boomer remover for China and probably with some help from the United States. You know, we.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Well, I mean we shouldn't be surprised that a disease that killed the older, the infirm, the unhealthy, what came from a country that's basically a foundational principle is from each according to a bill to, to their ability, to each according to their need. Well, those people no ability to do anything. So it's like of course.

[C]

And also had a period where they stopped people from having kids. They went to like a one child policy.

[D]

Right, Exactly. They dove to your point in my dovetail. Exactly. I'm just trying to say like of course it would come out of there. It's, it's logical. If you're talking about an atheistic state that, that, that has a bunch of people that have a lot of need and can't produce anything. Well, of course they're going to get rid of their, you're going to create as you said, the boomer remover. But yeah, Pete, you're, you're, you're right, exactly. Combine the child, the childlessness with this. Yeah, it was just a, if anything it was an inevitability.

[C]

Yeah. The Yaqui Yaqui posed that. When you start importing populations from other places historically, what you see is that the Native population stops having children, that there is just a slowdown. And he doesn't, he, he doesn't know if it's a metaphysical thing or if it's, he really can't explain why it happens. But when you look back, you see that that happens. And so what you're seeing now is you look at China, Russia is having the same problem. What country is having a baby boom? El Salvador. Why is El Salvador having a baby boom? Okay. The third world countries that these people are coming from, they've never stopped having babies. Okay, so who's going to take over?

[B]

Yep. The people that show up.

[D]

No,

[B]

I mean, that's the, the long and short of it.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And if you know for a fact, if you're a middle class, like, let's just say you're a normie American middle class person, you and your wife both work. Let's, you know, being brutally honest about it. Having kids is a pain in the neck.

[C]

Right?

[B]

They're expensive, they, they take all your time that, you know, like, it's a lot of work having especially, you know, more than two or three kids. You know, having, having the 12. Eric Prince has billions of dollars so he can have nannies and cooks and all that other stuff. But if you're a normal person, right, and you and your wife are both forced to work because of the economy, having more than one or two children is very, very difficult. And unless you have like, moral objections like, you know, hardcore Catholics or orthodox do or whatever to like avoiding having children, like it's really easy to do to avoid having children. The benefits of being married, you don't lose any of those. And if you just know you're gonna get economically exploited all your life for retirees in Florida with gold plated pensions that your state really can't afford, but they're constitutionally obligated to give them out. So your, your state spending is going to go for that. And on the low end, you're, you know, going to be constantly supporting, you know, section 8 housing and food stamps and stuff and you get nothing. Unless you have some sort of religious motivation to have children. A lot of people are just gonna be like, nah, I mean, I have friends who are great guys who, you know, know the score and everything. He's probably gonna listen to this later. He didn't have kids for that very reason. Like, why should I support the system?

[C]

That's what happened to me. I mean, and it was just that I didn't meet someone until I was 35. And when I was 35, that's when the prices of everything started blowing up and inflating all over the place. And I just, I said, well, what am I going to do at this point? Even at 35, I was like, well, I seem to be a little bit old for this, but now I'm at this point and it was purely economic reasons. And you know, I look back on it and I wish I could change it, but I can't. But I'm not going to. I'm not going to be one of those people that's like, no, you shouldn't have kids. No, I, you know, I encourage people to, you know, even though I don't, you know, learn from my mistake.

[B]

Well, but, you know, if, if it was just a mistake Pete made, that'd be one thing. But like, you have to look at systematic issues systematically. Right. Like, and if normal.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Working class people are just treated like tax cattle who get no benefits from the state whatsoever and are constantly being sucked dry by the high low versus the middle coalition. You're going to run out of middle class people really quick.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Because everyone in no one in our society gets rich. You know, Eric Prince got rich by, by basically using government money. Right. So he, Eric Prince has billions of dollars because of tax dollars. Elon Musk has billions of dollars because it's tax dollars. Yep. Bill Gates has billions of dollars because of tax dollars. I'm not criticizing any of them in particular. I think a lot of them deserve the money that they've got. But like, no one who has a fortune of a billion dollars hasn't gotten so without, you know, basically government cooperation.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Whether that's like Apple. Right. Apple would have died if it weren't for the fact that Apple was in every single elementary school in America for years. Right. The Apple Iie sold tens of thousands of units so that, you know, third graders could play, you know, the original Oregon Trail. Like, that's, that saved Apple. That saved Apple. Yeah, but like that, you know, that's a good, that's, that's Steve Jobs getting billions of dollars from the government. Government. And I'm not saying this was wrong, but that's what happened. So rich people in America get rich by, by government intervention and poor people survive off a government largess.

[D]

Yeah, Beautifully stated.

[B]

No bootstraps there. Yeah, yeah. And when you, there's a blogger by the name of La Griff De Leon who was big in the 2000s and he's the originator of what's called smart fraction theory. And Z Man and John Derbyshire have talked about it, he was an HPD guy back in the day, but he uses great analogies. Imagine you're a dude walking up a hill with a load on your back. And if you're a big dude who's used to carrying lots of stuff and your sack is really light and the hill is pretty flat, you can go all day. Imagine now that you're a skinny dude going up a steep hill with a huge load on your back. It's going to be really slow. And that person carrying everything forward is the fraction of a society above. I forget what the exact number was, but like 110 IQ, right? That's, that's carrying the society forward and doing all the real in actual work, doing all the, that make society function, like provide clean water, like provide electricity. And the load of who you're carrying and how steep it is is how many people around you are, you know, able to also contribute. And you know, to get back to the Haitians thing, not one in ten Haitians is capable of even contributing. On the most basic level.

[D]

Level,

[B]

we're not even talking about like, oh, they don't speak English or they can't read or whatever, things that might be mitigated by some education we're talking about, they can't do it because they lack the iq. Now I would throw in there's some demons problems in there, but that's me. And I'm a, you know, hardcore nut, but religious dad, but like, there's no right, there's no way for the regime, for the Nuremberg regime to deal with their dilemma.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Kamala Harris knows everything we know or someone around her does. Guaranteed. So they know that the entitlement spending is out of control. They know that they can't, you know, Florida schools can't deal with the influx of Haitians. They know all this stuff and they just refuse to do anything about it. Because to admit anything, I mean, you're watching the regime destroy its legitimacy among middle aged women just because they refuse to admit that boys are boys and girls are girls.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

I mean, the regime cannot admit that there's a difference between boys and girls, something as basic as that, otherwise it loses because all the dominoes go down. And Charles, you could talk about this all day long, but like, there's a reason the manosphere was such a path for most guys into all of this stuff. Because the second you admit that there's differences in interests and aptitudes, abilities, whatever, between the men and women, it naturally follows that those same things are not just confined to the sexes.

[D]

Yes, you're exactly right. As a matter of fact, 100. Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, in my first book, I have. I have the exact line that is the manosphere. I wrote the Manosphere Paradox. Enter the manosphere. Wishing to get girls leave, not giving a. About getting girls. And that's what happened to a significant percentage of guys. I wouldn't posit a number, but a very significant, significant percentage of men. They came in, they're like, oh, hey, I want to know what's going wrong. And this kind of dovetails somewhat with your point earlier to Pete about how this isn't a Pete problem, this is a systemic problem, and it needs to be acknowledged as such. Which I also want to address something on that as well. But, yeah, you're exactly right. A lot of guys got into that, and then they started realizing, well, if you start pulling, it goes back to what I call the sweat threader, the threat on the sweater theory. Once you start pulling at that, everything unravels. They started pulling it, why can't I get girls? And they end up with, so this is why we can't mass import Haitians. And you think it's a joke, but it's not really a joke. It's exactly what you're saying. Because a regime built on lies, once you start undermining one lie, then they all start falling apart. They all just start collapsing. The thread just completely comes undone, and the sweater is no longer a sweater. It's just a mess on the floor. And to address. Just to give a bit of anecdotal proof to your statement about it's a systemic problem with the fertility crisis, the gal that I wanted to marry, but she left me after I'd lost my government career. Again, not a show about me, but just to use an example she has. I'll try and keep it very vague because I don't want to dox anybody. She has two sisters, neither of which have children. And she. The gal that left me and got married, she has one child, last I checked. I mean, it's been a long time, but I know people that know her still. And the last I heard a few years ago is she has one child now. One gal that I know personally that I still talk to. She is one of four girls, none of whom have children, none of whom. And these are all females now between the ages of 38 and 48. None of one child among all of them. Like, that's not a Pete problem. That's not a Charles Spadiel problem problem. That's a sp. That that is a systemic issue when you're talking about that many women don't have one child among all of them. Like, that is unbelievable. I, I can't imagine there's a time in history that's ever seen numbers like that. I just can't imagine.

[B]

And the, the bitter, late millennial or latexer, you know, childless woman is going to go absolutely insane, yo. Absolutely, like box wine is gonna make some absolutely insane, insane political choices here in the next five to 10 years.

[A]

Yeah, it'll be, look like a walk in the park.

[D]

Yeah, it'll be the, it'll be the, the rage of an empty womb. And I mean that very sincerely. It'll be, it'll, it'll be rage at, at a literal void. And I, I, it's, it's horrific. Horrific. It's absolutely horrific.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The fact that the assembly woman had women in politics pegged 2, 500 years ago and no one seems to bother to learn the lesson. Yeah. Oh, goodness.

[D]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Yeah. I can relate to the point about the manosphere too, because I also went through that pipeline as well and still know a good deal people in that space. And yeah, once you were able to draw that connection with the gynocracy and like, intersexual dynamics, it applies to a lot of other things from like mass migration and all of that. Once you have like a really feminized society, all sorts of like, dysfunction is going to emerge downstream from that.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Yeah. All of this stuff just seems to. All of these principles cross over into any subject you want. There are some, some basic principles and there are some basic human laws that can, you cannot escape. And you can apply them to everything. You can apply them to. You do not want 67 IQ people flooding into your polity. You can apply it to the relationship between men and women. I mean, all of these things, these are just basic, basic truths that are gone that just don't get taught anymore. And when they are taught, when somebody tries to bring them up, they're immediately shouted down. They're immediately a fascist, they're immediately this, they're immediately that. And it just goes to show you that it's. I can't say that we lost this because all of this was lost because we just just moved on to something else. It was definitely done on purpose. And the only way it's going to be reversed, the only way we're going to get those. I mean, the future doesn't have to look like the past, but the future has to have elements, has to have the the truths in the past that we've always held on to that keep us going and create that civilizational capital that we need in order to have order. If we don't bring that back, we're going to. If it was, if it was purposely removed, it needs to be purposely put back in.

[D]

Well stated. If it was intentionally obfuscated, then it has to be intentionally revealed or rediscovered. Yeah, very well said. Yep, very well said. Very well said. Anyone? I, I think that, I think that was perfectly stated because as you say, it wasn't forgotten. It was intentionally obfuscated and remains intentionally obfuscated. And I think this is the infuriating thing about modernity or about what these people do now, what the people do with these concepts. And I'm going to go, Jose may appreciate this because I'm going to kind of pull an old manosphere line and I'm going to use it. Fellow used to write by the name of Dalron Rock in the manosphere and he had.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[D]

And he said this and it was absolutely brilliant and I love it. It's like you have to understand the almost everything we see today, the overwhelming preponderance of everything we see around us today is not water finding its own level. It is a massive pumping operation to sort of draw on these, on these specialities, you know. This is not water finding its own level. This is, is trillions, literally trillions of dollars of pumping equipment that are maintaining what we see around us for good or for ill, for, for better or for worse. This is not the natural state of man and women, men and women, of man and male and female. This is not the natural state of, of people and their behavior. This is trillions upon trillions of dollars manufacturing with these people, with what we have around us, some of it good, a lot of it bad. And when a lot of that disappears, that's when, as you said, Pete, these fundamental laws of humanity will start reasserting themselves. And that's why the machine is so damn costly. Because you are trying to under undo or circumvent these laws that are, as you said, Pete, inescapable. And they are inescapable. And I'm not contradicting myself here because I'm saying that these trillion dollar machines that they have, they don't prevent the laws, they just hold them back a bit. The instant that machine even mildly starts to break down, when the oil just slowly starts to fade or somebody replaces it with dawn soap, then you start to see that it, it just, it breaks apart and then Water finds its own level. That's why there was an old quote. I can't remember who said it originally, but somebody said, be the oil in the machine, be the sand in the machine rather than the oil. And I think when it comes to modernity, a lot of people need to do that. They need to start being the sand in the machine rather than the oil. If that makes sense to you, Joan.

[C]

Yeah, the more you look at when you. If you break down and start looking at problems. It's one of the reasons why I really don't concentrate on doing a lot of episodes where I'm talking about what's happening in the news. Because what you end up doing is you end up just basically reporting on it. Maybe you'll have a point about something that's happening that somebody else isn't happening who's also reporting on it. But it all comes down to the answer to all of it is a return to fundamentals. And that's why it just gets boring after a while. It's like, okay, well, how many times can I say this? How many times can you say the natural order of things have been co opted? We are in this artificial world where everything is like this sweet and low world where you have to be sweet, but we're living the lowest possible, the lowest possible civilization that we have. And it's like the concept of the longhouse. Literally everything is the Longhouse now. It's like people, people want to. People keep bringing up. It's like you watch them like stone toss got docs this week and

[B]

people

[C]

are celebrating like they've destroyed his life. And I'm like, the dude made like seven figures selling NFTs a couple years ago. Made a couple million dollars in the span of 24 hours. I think he's okay. I think he's fine. But they're all celebrating this. And when you, when you watch them celebrate this, oh, we got this Nazi and people were like putting his name in their profile. They were using it as their profile name on X. And then they were. And. And they were suspending people for it. They were, they were suspending people's accounts because, you know, it's like you're putting that. You're doing this on purpose and now they're crying. It's all feminine.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, right. Well, Dean knows I've been talking about this for years. The Globe against global feminization. There's some. There are some. I'm sorry, D. I will let you jump in, but I just want to address your couple points you raised Pete and a couple points Jose had raised just sort of broadly, in my own way, broadly, but if you'll pardon the pun, broadly that the global feminization, you could just see it. I mean, look at our regime. It's all built on niceties. Not good. And I keep. This is a, this is a drum I've been banging for much of my life. First off, one of the first points of feminization is you. You put in niceness, which, which is actually pro social behavior, but not necessarily good behavior. It's just a smoothing behavior. It's a diplomatic behavior. It's not actually being good to anybody. You're just not causing a problem. You're not being hostile. That's the first thing. Another point that you're seeing is projection. Remember, it's never the problem, it's never that person's issue, it's somebody else doing it. And I mean, we see it. And again, I'm not trying to turn this into a Democrat or Republican issue, but we see the Democrats do this all the time in the United States. It's always, you know, the Republicans are selling secrets to, selling uranium to the, to Russia. The Republicans are doing this, they're cheating in the election and it's all the stuff the Democrats are doing. But it's again, it's another female behavior. It's projection. It's what I'm doing, I'm going to accuse you of doing. Those are just two of the primary ways that the system operates. It's a heavy reliance on pro social rather than actual good. And there's also a complete reluctance for any kind of sacrifice because again, in the female brain, it's all about nesting. It's all about resource hoarding. Ostensibly, or ideally rather, it's. That's to take care of one's children, one's offspring, one's family. But that's been hijacked now to just becoming a hoarder, just becoming. It's all for me and for now for my own hedonistic pleasure. It's not actually for the benefit of anybody in, in the grander scheme. That's the irony of all this is they like to engage in pro social behavior, or rather pro social statements, but the actual behavior, behavior is very selfish. That's why all these people, again use an example, all these people about climate change, oh, we need to do this and we need to do that. We need to give up this, we need to give up that. How many of these people are giving up, you know, their cell phone or all of these environmentally destructive Things. None of them. None of them. They're not doing any of that. It's all about laws for the. And not for me, which, again, is a very female way of doing things. Because whenever you tell a woman no, it's. They'll say, well, I have my reasons that you shouldn't tell me. I can't do that because I have X. I have X reason. I have why reason. I have extenuating circumstances. But that's a very childlike logic, because children will do the exact same thing. Well, it's okay if I do it. Well, why is it okay if you do it, child? Well, because I'm me. It's like, well, we could all say that, you know, Pete, why did you rob that liquor store? Well, because I'm Pete and I needed the money. It's like, well, okay, but that. We could all say that, Pete. So a lot of this stuff, as you say it, is the long house writ large. And that's why the workplace has devolved. Because a lot of places. And I haven't written this one out yet. I really should sit down and write this out. But when you bring women into a space, women are naturally nesting. Nesting creatures. So they'll turn, wherever they are, into a nest. And that's a good thing. Don't get me wrong. The nest is very important, a place of safety. Children need a peaceful, a placid place. They need security. They need shelter. They need nurturing. And that's a good thing. But you can't turn everything into a nest. The workplace is naturally a battlefield. Man only progresses through conflict. Now, it doesn't have to be a violent conflict between men, but man versus nature, man versus man himself. These things build. These. These are how men grow. This is how things progress in the sense of technological advancement, intellectual development. Iron sharpens iron. So some places have to be a nest, and some places have to be a battlefield. But the reason everything is falling apart is once you bring women into things, then everything becomes a nest. Well, the workplace can't be a nest. It has to be a battlefield. The military can't be a nest. It has to be a battlefield. But now they're nests. And that's why you're seeing all of these in these institutions fail. Because their most basic tenant, that is to be a battlefield, has been usurped, and now they're a nest. Sorry, D. So if you want to go ahead, D. That's my point, go ahead.

[B]

Well, and something I learned from you, Charles, is that the. The problem with, say, minority populations, and you can see it when you interact them or Jewish populations.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Is that they're very feminine in nature.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Shmul, you know, sitting there saying, oh gosh, this is so terrible. Look at what Candace Owens is doing to me. No one's like, oh, it's really disgusting that I'm promoting my daughter's sex toy company.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Like, there's no masculine self ownership of like, maybe this is my fault.

[A]

Right?

[B]

It's just constantly projecting. Like, what. Why are you so mean to me? What did I ever do to you, man? I only called for genocide and all this other stuff. And I'm also promoting my daughter's sex toy company, but this is solely someone else's fault, right?

[D]

Like, yes.

[B]

Yeah, you're a disgusting, sick weirdo.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Well, the idea of like my daughter's daughter's sex toy company, like I, I feel dirty even saying the word.

[D]

Exactly. And look at, like, look at Inner 2024 for you. Inner city. Look at inner city black culture too. Like a lot of guys grow up, a lot of young white guys grow up and a lot of women too. They look at that and they think, oh, that's so tough. That's so masculine. Because you know, they don't take any blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, take a step back and look, look, they're all about money, they're all about clothes, they're all about dancing. It's like, is that sounds like women to me. Like, like that, like money. It's like that's. If you really take a look at. It's all actually very feminine, not masculine.

[B]

Right? There's no self ownership. But you can't look at the Haitians and be like, hey, maybe this is your fault. Maybe you suck. Maybe you're dumb. Maybe you worship demons. Maybe you have too many kids that you can't afford. Maybe you should. Shouldn't chop down the last tree and turn it into charcoal. Maybe you should, I don't know, not live in filth.

[C]

Right?

[D]

You know, it's spiritual, spiritually feminine. It's all very spiritually feminine. And there, and as I said, there is a place for the feminine. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist because if you eradicate the feminine, then you get the hyper masculine, which is, you know, tyranny and, and just absolute brutality. But it just has to be. There just has to be a balance. And we've gone way too far in the opposite direction.

[B]

I mean, yeah, they've longhoused Boeing.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Like.

[B]

Right, exactly. Yeah. All the institutions in the world that you shouldn't longhouse the people building fighter jets. I'm just, just saying.

[C]

Yeah, well, you know, that also goes towards the. The idea that they're doing this on purpose to try to get people to fly less. I mean, I've decided about a year ago that I, I don't really want to fly if I don't have to anymore, you know, and it could go towards their whole, you know, their whole climate change kind of thing. But, you know, I mean, we are dealing with a competency crisis. And I think, like, I've been trying to express that it's actually hopeful because if you see a competency crisis, then, you know, you need to get competent people in there. So people are going to. If people present themselves as competent and can get the job done, people are going to rally behind them. You know, I also say, you know, people, I've been saying lately that, you know, everybody's like, well, you know, the J is running everything. I'm like, okay, well, I. Hey, you look around, it's. It's hard to argue when you look at, when you look at the top of every pretty much industry and everything, but. But everything's falling apart. It's like there's a competency crisis. I'm like, okay, well, it looks like they're. They created a system. Their system that they created cannot operate anymore. You're gonna have to step up.

[B]

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[C]

gonna have to step up. A group of people are gonna have to step up and say, we can do this and we can do it better. And they're just going to have to prove themselves at this point. And if people, I think people are so desperate now for somebody who can just do the job, somebody who can just get things done, that they're willing to put aside the old and usher in the new and whatever that looks like, and I'm not even saying that that's something that I would necessarily want and I would necessarily endorse, but if it's something that is not hostile to me and somewhat neutral at this point, then I'm perfectly fine with it.

[D]

D Do you recall my fix it monologue we've talked about?

[B]

Please share it with all those lucky who were unfortunate. That would not hurt it because it's perfect.

[D]

Okay. To kind of riff off of your point, Pete. I. I've had this month, this, for years.

[B]

Years.

[D]

And again, this goes back to something Jose and I were discussing earlier about the manosphere and the pipeline there. Well, I agree with you, Pete, 100%. I think what's going to change things, and I've said this for a long time, and I used to get laughed out of the room at the beginning. I said, what's really going to change things is when we get women on our side. And I used to get people coming at me from all sides, screaming at me, oh, how can you be a manosphere author and say that we need women? And, oh, you're a cuck. You're a simp. You're saying they need to lead us. And, like, that's doomed to fail. And I'm like, okay, guys, you're not. You're not hearing me at all. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we need to get women on our side, because the only way things are going to change is when you unleash the 15% of the population that's being held back by the 85% of the population that listens to women, that only does things to please women.

[B]

Women.

[D]

Because what we need now is a bunch of women to just look at their men and that men in general and say, fix it. And just to be true women to their very core and just be the ultimate pragmatists that they are. Remember, men are romantic. Men are romantics pretending to be pragmatists. Women are pragmatists pretending to be romantics. Just, we need women to look at men and go fix it. I'm going to be over here making dinner. I'm going to be over here changing the baby's diaper. I'm going to be over here doing the laundry. What you've got to do to fix it, I don't want to know. I don't care to know. That's not my issue. I'm going to keep my head in the sand like most women do for most things that they find distasteful. And I'm gonna let you be a man and go handle it. Don't come home and tell me about it. I'm not interested. But I want to be able to go to the grocery store without getting catcalled. I want our daughter to be able to school without getting groped. I want our son being able to get to school without getting beat up. And I want you be Able to come home from work without getting killed. That's what I want. Fix it. Fix it. And that's when things are going to change.

[C]

Yeah. And if anyone who doesn't think that that's right, just think back to Covid. Okay. Would we have had the lockdowns? Would we have had the masking? Would we any of that if it wasn't for women? Women were leading the charge on that. And unfortunately white women were leading the charge on that.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, 1984, he said women, especially young women, were the, the, were the most vociferous adherence to the party. I mean, Orwell wrote that forever ago, so. Yes.

[B]

And. And moms were the ones, were the biggest ones, you know, moms for liberty, Moms for. It was, it was the moms seeing their kids. Educations go down the toilet. Who, you know, radicalized the most and went hard against it too.

[D]

Who's fighting the trans thing now more than anybody? Society.

[B]

Right, right. Middle aged women with children.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Moms are like the vanguard of the revolutionary classes and a lot of like revolutions from like the French Revolution to even like the Bolshevik Revolution. You have like when the moms go out in the streets and like see their kids like dying because of starvation or whatever, like going through like.

[B]

What do you think happened in 1932?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Some lady was slowly watching her children starve to death.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Was like, I don't care what you got to do, Dieter. Fix it, fix it. What do you think happened in Spain in 1936?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Abuela said, mijo, fix it. And he said, yes, Abuela.

[D]

Yep, you got it. That's it. Fix it, fix it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Biology.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I thought you were gonna say something, Jose.

[A]

No, no, that's all I had to say.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's. People are just going to have to step up. I mean, and women. Yes, women. It's. It really is amazing how at this point where it's the energy of everything is so feminine. What, What Jason from the two bit podcast calls the sm. Was it the smothering mother? I can't remember what it, what it is.

[B]

The devouring mother and the eventual son.

[C]

Yeah, the devouring mother. And that's what we've been going. What has been the predominant spirit of the age since at least World War II. And what you're starting to see now is you're starting to see the age of the vengeful son, where the son comes in and says, starts fighting back against the mother. And you know, as he, as Jason points out, the hardest part is going to be being able to try to control it because we know how far it can go and you know, we want it to go just far enough that we go. We get the change that we want, but we don't want it to go so far that we're stuck in 1789 and 1793 France.

[B]

I've told people for years that I'm going to die on the left. Left. You think?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if I get the same. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if I got.

[B]

Because. Because I'm still a Christian like you don't like. For the, for the SPLC folks, for the ADL folks who are listening to this program. You don't understand just how angry the average dude who's 19 and has no prospects is and knows what we know and knows that it could be fixed easily if he just, you know, did redacted to everyone that you care about.

[D]

Yep, that's exactly right. Yep.

[B]

And whether it's a Haitian dude with a machete or an MS.13 dude or an angry white dude or whatever, you keep creating these revolutionary conditions or Weimar conditions. You're going to get Weimar solutions whether you want to or not.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Of things like Stu Peters is going so hard in the paint right now. Stu Peters, right. You know, conservative.

[C]

Yeah. I was on his show. I was on Stu Peters show last Friday. We did a segment on what the what those men in the what books those men in the 1930s burned. And I was, I was the reasonable voice in the thing. I was the one pulling the convert. Yeah. I was one trying to pull him back and go, okay, I get it. I've been there, I was there. Now I've moved on. I see light at the end of the tunnel.

[B]

Tunnel.

[C]

And he's at the point where now he's just stuck in the tunnel and all he can see is all this stuff that's, you know, that's coming in from all sides. His noticing levels are insane right now. And I'm at the point where I'm just like, well, I see the name, I see something horrific. I see the name. And I'm like, eh, what do I expect? Well, so, you know, we just got to meditate. Yeah. Yeah. We just got to come up with an alternative to all this. And that's. That's about it. I mean, present the alternative. And I think what Charles there was. Was talking about was good. And I will, you know, I will say I wanted to mention that I got a letter recently from. From a female Fan. And, you know, it's like, holy crap, I have those. And a listener. And she mentioned our last episode together, and she wanted to thank Charles because Charles went out of his way to, you know, praise mothers and what mothers do.

[D]

Oh, if. If she's listening. I appreciate your appreciation. I do. I sincerely do. Because I do try and take a very balanced view of things. I think. I think danger lies in. In taking either the long house, you know, or the tyrant. I do. So thank you.

[C]

Yeah, we're. We're at the point where it's. Yeah, I went off the rails there for about six months and I just couldn't. I mean, I was floating back and forth. There was just so much. I was taking in too much information. And then it took basically to see, like, one of the things that really did. It was Matt Erickson said, start following these tech guys on Twitter. And I'm watching and I'm following these tech guys, and some of them are, you know, like, pretty right wing. David Sacks, Joshua Steinman, these guys are pretty, you know, pretty. Pretty hard. Maga down the maga road and, you know, retweet some, retweet some of the people on our side, too. All the way over on our side, too. But seeing the optimism that they have, that got really infectious, seeing that they're just like, we don't care about it. So, look, we're trying to build. We're trying to build what comes next. And I don't know if that technology is going to be great, if it's going to be something that I'm going to embrace, but hopefully it's going to be something that moves us past this obsolete system, something that can replace something in this obsolete system. And I don't know what that is. I mean, AI is looking impressive. I've started using AI for certain things, for certain research. There is an. I saw an AI this week that was repairing code. Like, yeah, like repairing. Actually. That was floating all over Twitter, actually repairing code. So it's like, okay, so it's. How long before it's writing code? How long before you just get an. You get an. You get a subscription AI? And you're like, okay, write me an APK that I can release my RSS feed on and I'll put it on my website or I'll get it in the Google Store. I probably won't get in the Google Store, but I can release it on my website. And people who can just listen to my podcast directly through my. What. And it just builds it for you. I mean, There. There are things coming down the pike that a lot of people, you know, I'm. You know, I'm a semi Luddite. Some of it's. Some of it worries me, but I don't want to stand in the way of it because I actually believe that I'd rather live in a world created by these people than the monsters, than these monsters right now. I've always thought these.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

To riff off of your point, Pete, I always thought. I believe it's the Mennonites. Forgive me if I'm incorrect. Somebody wants to correct me in your audience, by all means, I'll humbly take it. But I believe it's the Mennonites. Not to be confused with the Amish. It's. They are a very. They are much like yourself in the sense, very Luddite tendencies. But what they do is they communally, the.

[C]

The.

[D]

The church father, their church fathers, wherever you want to put. Look at their faith followers, leaders, rather. Excuse me. They're their church leaders. They look at it. They look at the new technology that comes along and they say, will this benefit our community? Yes or no? And they engage with it intellectually in that sense. And then they decide, what are the ramifications? The best that we see, obviously, man has a limited vision, but they do the best they can. And I think that's a good way to do it. And I think that's what you're sort of doing in your own way, is that whole. Okay, I have my. I have my trepidation regarding a lot of this, but perhaps it could be useful. And instead of just kind of knee jerk denying it, let me see if it can be used for good, and let me see what the dangers are within it. And I think that's exactly, exactly the way it should be handled. Like fire, frankly. You know, we should have the same attitude toward fire. Fire is a very good thing. Can't have civilization without it. But it doesn't mean you just, you know, light yourself on fire and say everything's great. So. Yeah, I think that's. Yeah, I think you got it.

[C]

Yeah. Well, if nobody has another subject they want to touch on. We've been going a little over an hour and a half. We can end this. Anybody have anything else they want to

[D]

pull up, bring up? No, I'm. I'm okay at the moment.

[B]

No, it's been great discussion.

[C]

Cool. All right. Plug away, Jose. Plug. Plug what? You're gonna plug?

[A]

Yeah, doing the usual about my substack, Jose Nino. Unfiltered. Dropping weekly articles. There and getting back into doing some recordings next week now that I'm, like, all settled in my new place. Yeah, you can still follow me on X at Jose Al Nino.

[C]

Yeah, go to. Go to Jose's substack. And episode 107 of his podcast has this. This dark Enlightenment guy. It was. It was a pretty good one.

[B]

Oh, yeah, he's insufferable.

[D]

Yeah, I gotta listen to that guy all the time already. Anyway,

[B]

no, thank you very much for having me.

[A]

He's a polite century conversation there.

[C]

Yeah. Yes. What do you have to plug, Dee?

[B]

Just my Telegram channel for those of you who are listening. And go, please either download the app directly from if you're on Google, or are able to use the browser bypass for Apple users. But I've been censored and I know that folks have asked, like, hey, I tried to click on the link and can't. Well, it's because I said some naughty words one time. And so Google and its infinite wisdom decided that you don't deserve. Or you can't hear what I think because I was mean.

[C]

All right, I'll make sure to link to that. And yeah, what Dee's saying is if you get the Telegram app, get it off their website. Don't get it out of the stores. The stores, they censor a lot of things. I'll see. Stuff will be shared in my chat that on one of my devices, I have it downloaded from the store. I won't be able to read it. So, yeah, go get it off of their website. And, Charles, do you have anything?

[D]

If anybody's interested, I still do have two books on Amazon. Both are. I need to clean them up and do second editions, but I have Whiskey and Ashes and Inebriates, Vowels, Maxims and Observations. And then I have another book by. Under my name, Charles Padill. And that is the Holistic Guide to Suicide. It's all about coping with depression and suicidal ideation, trying to get yourself out of a bad situation. So if any of those, either of those sound appealing to you, I humbly ask you pick them up from Amazon.

[C]

Thank you. All right, gentlemen, until the next time. And, you know, let's plan on it like a. Like a month from now, I think. I think if we plan that far in advance, we should be able to do something. Right.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Sounds good. Sounds good.

[C]

All right, gentlemen. Thank you.

[D]

Thank you, Pete.

[B]

Thank you for having me. Pete.

[C]

I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Canano Show. You are here with the Thought Crime Syndicate. What's up, guys? How are you?

[D]

Hey, Pete, Very well, thank you.

[C]

How about yourself? Good.

[B]

CHARLES DE I'm doing well, man. Thank you for having me, Jose.

[A]

I'm doing fantastic, though, and I'm ready to riff off.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, we already warmed up with. We had an appetizer to start us going and get the blood flowing. So I read this with my buddy Aaron, and I think we did a good job looking at this paper, this article that Loren wrote. But I wanted to come back to it because we're six months into this war and things just escalate and escalate. You have Douglas McGregor, who finally on Twitter yesterday said the word Jewish, said that this whole thing is about Jewish supremacy. He's been dancing around it for a long time. Apparently on Judge Knapp's show. He's actually been saying it a lot recently, but I haven't gotten a chance judging that puts out like five episodes and. Puts out like five episodes a day.

[A]

Yeah, he's got crazy volume.

[C]

Yeah, I need to check that stuff out and. But yeah, so I wanted to go back to this. Israel, the Psychopathic Nation by Lorraine G. And start reading it and allow us to comment. So. So you can stop at any time, and I'm sure there'll be a lot of stoppages because this is basically looking at the reasoning and the thought behind Jewish leaders and philosophers through the years in their own words. So, yeah, I'll start. If you guys are okay with it, I'll start reading and then we can go from there.

[D]

Yeah, go right ahead.

[C]

All right. Israel, the Psychopathic Nation by Loren Ganyu. Quoting first thing starts off with a quote. Judeophobia is a psychosis. As a psychosis, it is hereditary. And as a disease transmitted for 2000 years, it's incurable. So, okay, let's start off with this. Leo Pinsker wrote this in Auto Emancipation, 1882. He is a founding Zionist thinker. If it is incurable, what are the implications of it being incurable?

[D]

Well, that means it's terminal. That means there's no way for the patient to be saved from whatever fate that the disease brings upon him. Yeah.

[C]

What do you think, Jose?

[A]

I just. Yeah, I like the way that's just like. Just shows you the worldview of them. They just see us all as a melancholy kites that ultimately have to be put down in some type of way. Like we're all sick to them.

[C]

Yep. All right, I'm going to start reading. Stop. Anytime. Jewishness is a notoriously ambivalent notion. On the one hand, Judaism is religion. On the other Jews are a people, an ethnic group or race. I know that there's arguments about that. We'll just go. We'll gloss over it. Okay, we'll. We'll just go past. All depends on the circumstances. But in both cases, Jewishness may legitimately be subjected to psychological analysis. If Judaism is a religion, we may turn to Freud, who addressed the relationship between religion and neurosis in three books, Totem and Taboo, Civilization and His Discontents and the Future of an Illusion, in which he calls religion, referring mainly to Catholicism, a universal obsessional neurosis of humanity. What was Freud's background?

[D]

Yes, I believe he was amongst the tribe, as they say.

[C]

Okay. If, conversely, the Jews are a people, then we can base our analysis on common sense, which admits that every people has a national character forged by history or a collective memory, which is to say its own representation of its history. History. Concerning the character of the Jewish nation, there is no shortage of opinions from Jewish intellectuals. The hypothesis presented in this paper can be summarized as follows. The Jewish nation as a state, but also as an organized world community, acts collectively towards other nations and other human communities in the way a psychopath acts towards his fellow man. I will first describe psychopathy as a cognitive and behavioral structure and show how the ideology and methods of the chosen people are related to it.

[D]

Pigeon in here. Just address a couple of points very briefly. Okay. First off, I'd like to step back to the comment about Judeophobia being an incurable illness.

[B]

If.

[D]

If you're part of a nation that looks at other peoples as the next rung down from you, I might not go so far as to say animals, but we'll just use that as an example. If you're part of a nation that looks to you and your people as animals, what do most humans throughout history do with sick animals? What do they do with them?

[C]

They put them down.

[D]

Right. Exactly. Now, the one thing I want to keep in mind by using this example is when people put down sick animals, how do they justify that? They say it's for its own good. Correct.

[C]

Putting it or putting it out of its own misery.

[D]

Right now, I want that to be firmly in the mind of the audience. As we progress further through this, this article. It may seem unrelated at this point, or it may seem like I'm being a bit hyperbolic, but those of us that have read this, we'll see why I'm setting the stage now for that. That. The other point I'd like to raise very quickly is if we look at the Jews as a nation as A collective. I want to be clear about this. I can declare war on, let's say, Germany. That doesn't mean I hate every single German. That just means their nation is currently operating in opposition to my nation. Or if we want to say Iran, or if we want to say Russia or China, that's fine. I can be at war with those countries without hating every single person that is part of that nation. Do I make myself clear with this statement?

[C]

Yes, I understand exactly what you're saying.

[D]

Okay. I just want to be clear about that. Okay, good.

[C]

I would also add that there's another way that people deal with terminal diseases. They seek to make the patient as comfortable as possible.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Palliative state as possible.

[D]

As

[C]

basically drugging them to the point where when my mother was dying of cancer and she was in brain cancer and she was in great pain, methadone was the treatment.

[D]

I lost my mother the exact same way, Pete.

[C]

So, yes, it's.

[D]

The term is palliative.

[C]

That's exactly.

[D]

Yes, that's what you're describing. Yes, sir. Yes, it is.

[C]

All right, I'm gonna go on then.

[D]

Please.

[C]

It goes with it. It goes without saying that I do not intend to imply that the Jews are psychopaths, but instead that they are the first victims of a mental straitjacket imposed by their elites, who, through veritable intellectual terrorism, make of them, to the extent that they comply, the instruments of the collective psychopathy of Israel. What is a psychopath? Psychopathy is a syndrome of traits classified among the personality disorders. Canadian psychiatrist Robert Hare, in the wake of Herve Cleckley's the mask of sanity, 1941, has defined its diagnostic criteria on the basis of of a cognitive model that is now widely accepted. Though some behaviorally oriented psychiatrists prefer the term sociopathy. In an effort to get everyone to agree, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual on Mental Disorders, the American Psychiatric Bible suggested antisocial personality disorder. But the term psychopathy is still in use. The most striking trait of the psychopath are lack of empathy and conscience. Other traits are common to narcissism. Psychopaths have a grand vision of their own importance. In their mind. Everything is owed to them because they are exceptional. They are never wrong, and failures are always the fault of others. They often show megalomania. But some learn to hide their arrogance under false modesty. If the psychopath pretends to rise to the universal level, it is because he can confuses it with his personal interests and the truth with his own opinions. However, the psychopath is distinguished from the simple narcissist by his appetite for power, which makes him much more destructive.

[D]

Moreover, here, briefly.

[C]

Sure, go ahead.

[D]

Okay. When we're talking, I want to step back just very briefly. I want to, I want to accent. He confuses it with his personal interest and the truth with his, his own opinions. I want to repeat that. He confuses the truth with his own opinions. That is narcissistic and solipsistic to a tremendous level. I mean, just an unbelievable level. Now, if you confuse legitimately the truth with your own opinions and you run most of the information highways in your country, in your society, what have you, whatever we, whatever term we want to use, collective, what, what is going to happen there? What is going to happen there? It's going to be absolutely devastating for everybody that isn't in lockstep with you. And everything will just seem absolutely topsy turvy to anybody that has a, an actually rational point of view.

[A]

You.

[D]

And actually sees a duck as a duck. A rabbit is a rabbit, a tree is a tree. It's just going to be absolutely catastrophic. There's no other way to it. There's no. Because then no one would have a way to determine the truth unless they were literal mind readers for the person who is controlling the information. Does that make sense to you?

[C]

I'm putting. Yes, I, I will say that I think Owen Benjamin did a really good job of breaking this down one day where he, he mentioned that these are people who are raised to believe that they're special and that they're chosen, but they're also a people who are raised to believe that everybody wants to kill them and everybody wants to hurt them. He said, and when you combine those two in, when you combine those two things together, you're creating a form of narcissism that you've never seen in history before.

[D]

Excellently stated.

[C]

Yeah. And I think I said this last time I read this, but I have a friend who, he told me, he told me that he was raised to believe that because he's Jewish, he was to be, you know, that everybody was out to get him and everybody wanted to kill him. And then his mother invited a bunch of people, his mother was a teacher, invited a bunch of people from his class to his Bat Mitzvah. And he's like, why are you doing this to me, Mom? These people want to kill me. We don't even talk about the fact that we're Jewish and think about that. How old is he at this point? 12, 13 years old.

[D]

Good.

[C]

And he's expressing, he's expressing these Feelings.

[D]

Good grief.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

They talk about it more in the article, but I just want to touch on it very, very briefly. Just. I mean, that is a person who is being victimized into being. It's. It's like a lot of forms of abuse, though the abused will eventually become the abuser due to that abuse. Like, you have to actually look at pity on that person. Like that. He didn't choose to be raised that way. He didn't choose that course. What child would choose to see the world that way? That was imposed upon him, that. Now you start to see where a lot of the rest of the article makes sense. That's an excellent anecdote. An excellent anecdote.

[C]

All right, let me continue here. Moreover, his capacity for harm is not inhibited by any scruples or remorse. He is incapable of feeling guilt. Although he imagines himself a hero and in some cases looks like a hero. The psychopath is on the human spectrum, the polar opposite of the hero who sacrifices him for his community. He will not hesitate to sacrifice the people around him. And when he knows he is lost, he consoles himself by causing as many, many people as possible to fall. Basically, the psychopath perceives others as objects. He has a mechanical view of people and human relationships and in some way, of himself as well. Although devoid of conscience, he often has a keen perception of the law, which he, as a mechanic of the social engine, overestimates. He has not internalized moral law and in this sense is not socialized. But he has mastered the rules of the game and cheats without qualms if he can. It's very interesting that he says, couldn't that just like.

[B]

Doesn't that act just perfectly describe Ben Shapiro?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Thinking the same thing that. Yes, I was thinking the same thing when I read that. Well said, D. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, he says that. That he is in no sense. He is, in this sense, is not socialized. When I think of socialization, I think of Ted Kaczynski when he talks about over socialization. People who become so dependent on the state and see the state as like God and everything, and they don't. They see the state as only something that they can use. Right.

[D]

It's just another tool in their box for manipulation and attaining power. Right. It has absolutely no right. There has no what goes back to the truth. There is no objectivity to any of it. It all results to it. It's wrapped up in this narcissistic, solipsistic.

[B]

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[C]

For the same reason the psychopath almost always develops an immoderate taste for money. He ideologies he idol idealizes it as the epitome of power, the very essence of the social. He thinks that people can be bought and sold like things and life often proves him right.

[D]

Well, one of the things that really terrified me about that particular statement, I have it highlighted here on my copy. People can be bought and sold like things is when you are controlling the message and you can make people devalue themselves or outright loathe themselves. In the case of the trans movement, to me that's. Then you are by immiseration, by the immiseration of others, you are causing them to commodify themselves because they have no other option, thereby reinforcing your own sociopathic worldview and continuing the cycle. That's what terrifies me about that statement is when you combine the power with that attitude, it becomes a self perpetuating machine and it just it. That's what I find absolutely terrifying about that.

[C]

The diagnostic criteria for psychopathy also includes pathological lying, deception, cunning and manipulative manipulative behavior. The psychopath feels only very superficial emotions and has no real feelings for anyone. But he has developed a great ability to deceive. He can be charming to the point of being charismatic. He typically shows highly developed verbal intelligence and lies with disconcerting aplomb. He is unable to empathize but learns to simulate it, sometimes with a tendency to histrionics. Latin histrio Theater actor the psychoanalyst Helene Deutsch makes this trait the mark of as if personalities endowed with purely mimetic pseudo emotions, devoid of inner experience. A little like an actor with a good technique, but not animated by actual life. But the psychopath.

[A]

There's actually a really. That's a really astute observation because

[C]

if

[A]

you look at like marketing for example, which is a field that has a lot of disproportionate Jewish reputation representation, you see this a lot with especially like Israeli Jews with how they try to market Israel to. To Westerners. On one hand you have like Likudniks that will pal around with Christians and try to sell Israel as again an ally to Christians. But that's really like a split. Like. Like a split test or just trying to see what works, like, best. Because I think, like, behind the scenes, these guys are just, like, talking smack about Gentiles and whatnot. And in, like, a moment of crisis, that's when you start seeing these Lakhudniks types start trash talking Westerners, like, right now and everything. And then you have, like, another faction of Israelis that will try to, like, sell Israel as, like, a liberal democracy, friendly to LGBT and all this stuff. And it's all part of an act because they.

[C]

They.

[A]

They try to keep a good image among the West. But when. When you actually look at them in like. Like, say, put a few drinks in them and behind closed doors, they just start behaving like total maniacs. Like, ethno narcissistic maniacs that could care. Could not care less about what.

[B]

Give me a perfect example of that. So the Salem Radio Network, Hugh Hewitt, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Prager, Sebastian Gorka, Charlie Kirk, Eric Metaxas, some black guy who used to be Tatum. The person who really runs that program or runs that is Dennis Prager. And I sent it to Pete. Maybe you could, like. But Dennis Prager straight up admitted, right, other than Nazism, all the isms choose feminism, Communism, you know, so we have people, right? Dennis Prager hates Jesus Christ. He'll say, oh, I love WASP people. Okay, well, then let WASP people advocate for themselves as WASP people, Dennis, instead of saying, oh, well, if you do that, that's Nazism, right? That's Nazism. If you do that. If you, if you say that as a white person in America, I think white people.

[D]

That's.

[B]

If you, as a white person in America, think that white people deserve something

[C]

in America, that, that.

[B]

That's. That's Nazism. That's.

[C]

That's slavery. That's Confederacy.

[B]

That's, you know, so you get that, right? Trust me, I. I read Hebrew and teach Torah, so I am an expert on. On your religion. Right,

[C]

Right.

[B]

I. I've never. I've never in a million years told Buddhists, like, you know, this is what you need to be.

[D]

How to.

[B]

How you need to be a Buddhist.

[C]

Right?

[B]

I. I read. I read you. I read your book once. So I. I know more about being

[C]

Buddhist than you do.

[B]

I know more about her.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

So here's this guy, right, whose job it is in the Salem Brain Network, goes after specifically, like, religious Christians who are, you know, like conservative talk radio.

[C]

The.

[B]

The people who thought Rush should be more religious, basically, and you know, I, I watched Andrew Clavin last night, so you folks didn't have to. And take one for the team. Taking one for the team. And you know, he talked about this, this recent Tucker interview. Right. And there was, there was no. Well, I could see how people would feel that way, but here's why. It's wrong. It was just. This is wrong. It was just this, it was straight out of this book and I, I, as I was listening, I was like this, this French dude doesn't miss. Because it was like word for word what was happening. Like, oh, narcissism, inability to see anyone else's point. Just, and once you've understand this and you see it everywhere.

[D]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

Then, then a lot of things become clear and, and what, why these people are losing their minds so much. And I was just, literally just on another program, the Blaze, Glenn Beck's outfit, you know, Lauren Chen is out there saying, you know, hosting Nick Fuentes and, and forcing Jeremy Boring, the Daily Wire guy, to talk to Nick Fuentes. And I might have my differences with Nick, but Nick's way more on my side than these other people. But the, the, the delta between what the world's actually doing and, and what the establishment conservative media are saying is growing so vast that normal people are unable to take a cognitive dissonance. You've got, you know, working class dudes who just are loggers in their truck, you know, screaming about on TikTok, screaming about like, why does Israel get all this money and I got to drive five hours to work every day.

[D]

Right, exactly.

[B]

And well, the answer is, is Jewish power. But this, this level of narcissism is why they've been doing this for, and why they're losing their minds because they're, they know they're losing their grasp. You know, Ben Shapiro lost his mind because he, he knows that he can't. I, I put it out on Telegram. I think I told you guys, like, fundamentally, right, these people destroyed America, they destroyed Europe, they destroyed Canada, and then they expected their little colonial project to still be strong even though like all the supports were undermined and rotted and rested out.

[D]

Yeah, a couple points to what you're saying. D. It's interesting you even bring up loggers because I have a friend that actually used to run a logging company in Canada. And one of the things he says, and he's been saying this for at least five years, probably more, but I'll say at least five. He's been saying what you're saying for at least five years and that is, he was absolutely just completely befuddled by the fact that, fact that Israel undermined the United States as much as it did and then expected it to defend the, this, the state nation of Israel. Like it just, it just boggles his mind. As a matter of fact, I, I think, and he'll, forgive me, he'll probably end up listening to this, but I might mildly misquote him, but I guarantee you not by much. He's like, if Israel really was, was smart about what they wanted to do do, they would have made sure that America stayed a bunch of 6 foot 3, blonde hair, blue eyed, white guys and, and then used them to just be their strong arm in the rest of the world. But they didn't, they didn't, they, they dissolved it like an acid and now they're good, they're terrified that they have nobody to protect them on the world stage. And it's, that's exactly what you're saying now and then that, and it's 100% true. True, it's 100%.

[C]

It always turned against them.

[D]

Yeah, that's, that's very true. But I, I would say, you know, in a way, Jose, it's, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with the yes. And I, I think in a way it's that and it's even worse. It's not only is the Gollum turning against them, they can't even, it's not even powerful enough to defend them if that, if it wanted to. Like, even if they could regain control of it somehow, which we know they're not, but even if they could, it couldn't defend them anyway. It wouldn't do any good anyway. It's enough to beat them up, but it's not enough to beat up most of their opponents or any of their opponents. And one other thing, I want to throw credit where it's due. When he, when they talk about the histrionics being related to theater actor, my first thought in my head was, I believe it's R.M. mcIntyre that, that coined the phrase the theater kids are at it again. And yep, it's like, you know, the theater kids. I was like, I, I have to, I have mixed feelings on Aaron McIntyre. I think he's a good guy. But I, I, he's bad for my hypertension. Like every time I read him I'm like, I just want to get rope and go out and redact. So it's just like, yeah, I, I, it's bad for my hypertension, but other than that I really like It. So, yeah, I just had to give credit where it's due to R& McIntyre. First thing I thought was the theater kid administration, but that was bang on the money, so. Last point I want to raise, though, in regard to the. They can be charming to the point of charismatic. Therein lies the rub is that it's not true. Charisma is being able to empathize with people and being able to make them feel like. Like, frankly, like they're a human being. I mean, if you go out to eat, if you talk to people, stuff like that, the best way to just get them on your side. And it's not. It's not. I guess it is manipulation, but it's not meant with any kind of malfeasance or maliciousness. I always just try and let them know that I see them as a human being. Sure, they may be my waiter, they may be the person that's answering at the help desk, but I try and make them feel like they're a human being. Like, yes, I understand this is your job. Yes, you have certain requirements, but that doesn't permit me to abuse you. I'm allowed to complain, but I'm not allowed to abuse you. Like, first thing I say when I'm on. On the phone with somebody is, look, we'll say, d. Look, D, I understand you just answer the phones here at bank of America. You don't control any of it. But I got to tell you, I'm really upset at my account problem here. Could you please help me out? Could you please do anything? You could. I'd really appreciate it because I'm really.

[B]

And that's. And that's the difference, right?

[D]

And you know what, guys? You know what? To a man or woman, everybody has said to me, you would be amazed how fast they try and help me just with that little phrase, hey, look, I know you don't run it. I know you're just answering the phone, but I'm just all tied up in knots here. I'm super upset. Can you please help me out? But you were gonna say good.

[B]

Well, but. But you know who doesn't do that, right?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Psychos and Jews. Right? Like, when's the last time Jews went. You know what? 150,000Americans died saving us from the Nazis. And if it hadn't been for the tens of thousands of planes and tanks

[C]

and

[B]

trucks and millions of gallons of fuel and everything that you'd sent to the Soviets, the Soviets would have lost that their.

[C]

Their side of the war.

[B]

Thank you. What can we do to Make America better.

[C]

Right.

[B]

There's. There's no gratitude whatsoever. None. It instantly. Right. Like, I brought this up before, but. But just, you know. Okay, so 1946.

[C]

Right.

[B]

War ends eight years later. Eight years later. Who's behind Brown v. Board.

[D]

Board. Well, who's behind Shelley v. Kramer?

[C]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

The two years after that.

[D]

Yeah, I was just gonna say. Right. That's what I mean. Like, two. Like.

[C]

Like the authoritarian person. They started writing the authoritarian personality in 1948.

[B]

Right. Yeah.

[D]

Like.

[B]

Like there are literally still American troops in Europe putting the place back together and. And keeping a lid on the Germans in 1948. That the last. Like, they still didn't go home. Right. But, like, the demobilization for the war isn't even complete and they're already destroying America.

[C]

Right, Right.

[D]

I mean, I don't want to go for too far down this path because this is something Pete and I discussed earlier. We can discuss another time. But that's the curse of Eve. I mean, they're always going to rebel and. But they're always going to be subject to somebody else. That's the bargain they made.

[C]

That's right. Yeah.

[B]

Anyway. Please, Pete, continue. Sure.

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All right. But the psychopath is more than that. He is a manipulator. It is through his extraordinary ability to feign, trick, trap and capture that the psychopath draws his power. Although he himself is immunized against guilt, he becomes a master in the art of using guilt to dominate others. In any situation, the psychopath projects a Persona which can vary according to circumstances. The opinion he wears in public are all disguises that he tailors to his own advantage. However, lying is so deeply embedded in his nature that the question of his sincerity is almost irrelevant. The psychopath can beat a lighter sector. The truth has no value in his eyes or merges with it with the version of events that suits him.

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The psychopaths.

[D]

I'm sorry, this is. This is, again, what makes them dangerous. And I've tried to point this, having been in law enforcement for many years and in investigations for even longer, this is the dangerous thing. Everybody thinks, oh, lie detector, all that we can catch somebody with a lie detector. It's like, no, if I believe this steps back to the earlier point, if I believe the truth is whatever I say it is, then the lie detector doesn't work because what a lie detector does. And I coined this phrase and everybody stole it from me at my job in immigration, something I didn't mention on our solo talk, Pete, on our dialogue between one another. The phrase I coined was stress indicative nonverbal communication. That's what gives somebody away when they're lying. That's the phrase I coined and I put it in all my memos. Subject exhibited stress indicative nonverbal communication. Everybody stole that phrase because what it is, is it's your own conscience telling you that you're lying and then that's giving you away. And this is why you can't catch these people, because their opinions are the truth. They have no guilt, therefore they have no stress, therefore they have no stress indicative behavior, therefore they are never, quote, unquote, lying. That's why these people are so incredibly dangerous, because they are without a conscience. And anyone will tell you, any honest person in the law enforcement field, which I admit, they are growing fewer and fewer every day, but any person that's honest in the law enforcement field will tell you 95% of people that we catch and put away give themselves away in one way, form, shape or another. And when you have people like this, they are almost uncatchable. And even if you do catch them, they are almost impossible to break.

[C]

And I'm going to go on. The psychopath is unable to put himself in the place of others and thus to view himself critically confident in any circumstance of being right and innocent and superior. He considers the resentment of his victims as irrational and pointless. Although those close to the psychopath, at least those who learn the hard way, his true nature can judge him raving mad. The psychopath is not sick because he does not suffer. He is innocent of neurosis and never requests psychiatric care except as a strategic calculation. He is not psychotic and cannot be regarded as maladapted to social life. On the contrary, he is in a certain sense over adjusted. That is why the real mystery from a Darwinian point of view is not the existence of psychopaths, but their low proportion in the population. Next section is Jewishness and selective empathy. The most optimistic low end estimate of the proportion of psychopaths in the western population is 1%. This 1% should not be confused with the famous 1% who owns half the world's wealth. But a study of senior executives of large companies published under the title Stakes and Suits shows that psychopathic traits are widespread among them. This is not surprising. Modern society values psychopathic traits and favors the upward mobility of psychopaths. The fact that Jews today are disproportionately represented among the elite. They form half of the billionaires in the United States, While representing only 2.4% of the population does not allow us to conclude that psychopathy is more prevalent among the chosen people in a way.

[D]

One more time please. When we talk about here that the upwards mobility is valued. Society values psychopathic traits and favors the upward mobility of psychopaths. This steps back to something we had discussed in our dialogue and that is the fact that it's a pro social behavior, but it is an anti societal behavior at its heart. It's a pro social in the fact that he's be. The psychopath is being nice, he's being friendly and he's, and he is smoothing the gears of social interaction. He is not however, doing anything but destroying the society that it's meant to to keep moving.

[A]

That's a classic con man game when you.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Think about it.

[D]

Yeah, it's a great point. That's a great.

[A]

Yeah because like the, yeah the, the a successful con isn't something that like is just like malicious off the jump. It seems like innocuous it come. Oh the guy will come off as innocuous and friendly at first but then like once the con go actually goes down, it's gonna be too late when you realize that oh you got screwed. But yeah, that's actually like, it's like in the short term it looks pro social but in the long term it's actually very noxious on a societal level. And that's how the, this organized Jewry operates it ultimately.

[C]

All right, I'm gonna continue. In a way, quite the opposite is the case. Jews demonstrate among themselves an extraordinary capacity for empathy or at least familiarity that breeds exceptional solidarity to the point of self sacrifice. But the selective nature of this empathy suggests that it is addressed less to the humanity of others than to their Jewishness. In Nomads essay on the Jewish Soul, 1929, we learn what transpires when two Jews meet. Quoting we have never met before, but I instantly know him. One look, one phrase and I know where he grew up, how he grew up, where he got his drive and his sense of humor. He is New York. He is Jewish. He looks like my Uncle Louis. His voice is my Uncle Sam. I feel we've been together at countless weddings, Bat Mitzvahs and funerals. I know his genetic structure. I'm certain that within the last 500 years, perhaps even more recently, we shared the same ancestor. This is a comment from Robert Reich, Secretary of Labor, about his meeting with Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Council on the Federal Reserve, two very influential Americans about whom we would like to believe that such familiarity does not affect their judgment of the nation's interests.

[B]

Who is Alan Greenspan of a disciple of Ayn Rand? Yep.

[C]

Part of the part of her inner circle. Kadmi Isaac Cohn described Judaism as, quote, the spiritualized deification of the race. Thus the divinity in Judaism is contained in the exaltation of the the entity represented by the race. It is as if the Jews felt united by a collective or ethnic soul which occupies more or less of their individual soul, soul according to individuals and circumstances. This is indeed how many Jews recall their Jewishness. Being Jewish to me, says Alan Finkel Crout, is to feel involved, concerned, sometimes compromised by what other Jews do. It's a feeling of belonging, affiliation. And in this affiliation there is, for example, the tortured link to Israel. Every Jew experiences himself as part and parcel of the chosen people. Everything he is doing reflects on the community. When a Jew is a victim, all Jewish people are victimized. By contrast, if he is a torturer, his Jewishness is repressed because it would implicate the whole people and his guilt. Jewishness is in some sense a latent sentiment capable of being activated by the slightest alarm, harm. The feeling of Jewishness remains in me something dark, abysmal, and above all, unstable, both powerful and labile, easily altered. Nothing is as important to me as my Jewishness, which, however, in many respects has so little importance in my life, writes Jacques Derrida.

[D]

I just want to say something very quickly to this Pete. I want to go over that quote again. The feeling of Jewishness remains in me something. Something dark, abyssal, and above all, unstable. Again, this goes back to what I've been saying for many years to d and what I discussed with you in our dialogue recently on bordering and insanity. And that is this is a very feminine thing. Keep in mind in the yin, the yin yang symbol, the white and the black. Turning the black is actually the feminine energy, and that is the unstable change. And this. Think of this. The feminine is biologically at its very core, literally unstable. With menstruation like this is all a very feminine energy. So I just want to point that out.

[C]

Growing up in New York, as I did, and knowing, being around a lot of Jews, I can say when he says, when a Jew is a victim, all people are victimized. By contrast, if he is a torturer. I used to hear the tales of Sandy Koufax, the pitcher for the Brooklyn Dodgers, that he was such a credit to Jews everywhere, that he didn't pitch on the Sabbath and just how remarkable he was. But what about Lavette de Beria?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

No one ever says that about Yagoda. You know, when you bring up. When you bring up Yagoda that. Well, it's not that he was. That has nothing to do with his. The fact that he's probably responsible for 20 million deaths. That has nothing to do with his Jewishness.

[B]

Yeah, Marx is Jewish. You know, it's. It's this, you know, if it weren't for double standards. Jews that have no standards at all. And I, I think I brought this up. I know they brought it up privately, but you know, when I say I want the same thing that Israel wants. I want smart kids to get free higher education. I want the not as smart kids to get a good solid votech education at the expense of the state.

[D]

I want a wall.

[B]

Want an ethno state. I want. It shouldn't cost you a hundred thousand dollars if you, you know, fall and break your arm. Your basic health here should be basically covered. Jews will call me a fascist. And then I'm like, well, that's just what you have in Israel. And then. But that's different. Why?

[C]

How?

[B]

And they're literally incapable of seeing from someone else's perspective. And you can't live with those people.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Could you imagine being married to a

[C]

woman

[B]

who literally never saw your point of view? Could you imagine sharing a house with someone like that?

[D]

That.

[B]

It drives people insane. So why, why should I have to share a country with people who literally can never see if I have a point or not?

[D]

Excellent point. Yeah. Yeah, that's an excellent point.

[B]

Like how, how, how are you supposed to live in peace with people who literally cannot see if you have a point? I could be completely crazy. But they can, can never, never acknowledge that someone else has interests. And that's the same to your point, Charles, about feminism or femininity. That's the problem with the, with, you know, the black community too, is, is the solipsism of, you know, my baby didn't do nothing.

[D]

Right. Yeah. Again, like, this is all coming Back to that. That very feminine energy of it's not me, and if it is me, it's different when I do it. I mean, I still remember. And I'll tell this story very, very briefly just because it's extremely pertinent. D. You've already heard this, but. So please bear with me. Young woman I was with a while back, she's a great gal, but it didn't work out. But anyway, but we were driving to pick up her car because her car had gotten towed because she parked in a handicap spot. And. And she was regaling me on the way to pick it up. I was driving her there. She's regaling me about how she's a democratic socialist and things will be better and different when we have more laws that, that keep people in line. And I looked her and I said, you mean laws like parking? Like against people parking in a handicap spot? Like, like those kind of laws, they'll make society better. And she was just floored. And they said, well, this is different. Like, my situation is different. I'm like, no, it's not different. It's not different at all. There was a rule and you broke it. Now you're paying penalty. Why do you get a special dispensation? Why is it different for you? And I don't think she could see it. And that's the same thing here, like you were saying with the black community. He didn't do anything. Because again, it's at, it's. At its core, it's a very feminine. It's a very childlike argument. We can.

[B]

All right, well, and, and why this is a Jewish psychopath thing is Shelly V. Kramer. There was the law that let us live separately. Destroyed by Jews. Brown be board. The one that let us keep our children safe. Destroyed by Jews. The, you know, I mean, just go back to our race war in high school series.

[D]

Heart seller act Jews.

[B]

Yeah, right. Like, so even when.

[C]

Right.

[B]

There's other populations that don't get along with them. Them.

[C]

Right.

[B]

How many Jews have been beaten up by. By blacks in New York or, you know, Puerto Rican gangsters or whatever?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Hundreds. Hundreds. But because they don't care. Because it'll hurt the white people more, because it'll undermine white society more. And they can just turtle up in their ethnic enclaves.

[C]

Right.

[B]

All I want is an ethnic enclave for me and mine. I. I'd love to live in. In like a Hasidic. Like a Hasidic neighborhood type situation with a bunch of white Catholics. Oh, wait, we had that. It was, it was called Brooklyn. Right.

[D]

I was gonna say, if you were Irish, it would be Philadelphia. Yep. Thank you, Pete. Yeah. There's sections of Philadelphia. Yeah, Right.

[B]

We had that and then it was destroyed. By whom? So there's no living with these people because they don't have any empathy whatsoever for anybody. Yeah.

[C]

All right, I'm going to go on. Jewish ethnocentrism in contrast to the empathy it shows for itself, the Jewish community as a whole, to the extent it submits to its representative elites, tends to behave towards the mass of gentiles in a psychopathic rather than empathic manner. This is why a goy observer, Werner Sombart, despite his reputation as a semitophile that went away after World War I, highlights features of Jewish collective psychology that are similar to psychopathic tendencies, including a temperament toward a coldly utilitarian and calculating alongside a propensity to mimicry combined with a mechanical conception of human relations. The founder of sociology, Emile Durkheim, 1858-1917, very critical of his Jewish community, noticed among Jewish intellectuals a pragmatic and self interested notion of truth which can be compared with that of the psychopath.

[D]

Excuse me, also with that of a woman. Pragmatic and self interested notion of truth. That's also a very feminine behavior. Please continue.

[C]

Quote the Jew seeks to learn not in order to replace his collective prejudices by referring to prejudices by reflective thought, but merely to be better armed for the struggle. He superimposes his intellectual life upon his habitual routine, with no effect of the former upon the latter. End quote Many Jewish historians, for example, seem to value history less as a pursuit of truth than as a means of power. The hypothesis of a full of a form of collective psychopathy with narcissistic tendencies makes it possible to deconstruct the universalism in which Judaism is draped. At the first level, Jewish universalism is a fable intended to obfuscate reality and confuse the goy. But it is not only this, as it also appears in the literature internal to the Jewish community, where it mounts to an expression of limitless ethnic narcissism. Let's start getting some quotes here. The Jewish people are the seed that is germinating the humanity of the future. Jacob Kaplan, Chief Rabbi of France the living ladder that meets the sky. Emmanuel Levinas Israel equals humanity. The Jew is closer to humanity than any other. So that, quote the enemy of the Jews is the enemy of humanity and therefore killing Jews is murdering all mankind. Eli Weissel Worse, hitting a Jew is hitting God himself. End quote. According to Cardinal Aaron Jean Marie Le Steeger, taken almost verbatim from the Talmud, Sanhedrin 58b, quoting, hitting a Jew is like slapping the face of God himself. This is why the strange notion of crimes against humanity was created specifically in 1945 at the Nuremberg Trials to describe the massacre of Jews. While the term genocide was coined for the same reason by Raphael Lemkin in 1944, these terms have since been galvanized to other victims of history.

[B]

These.

[C]

Excuse me, these terms have since been generalized to other victims of history. The copyrighted term Holocaust was coined. Hard to beat. The equation between Jewishness and humanity, which is the height of ethnocentrism, is the real meaning of Judaism's claim to embody. Humanism. Though Israelis are, quote, the most separatist people in the world, end quote. According to Nahuma Goldman, former president of the World Jewish Organization and founder of the World Jewish Congress. He adds, quote, the Israelis have the great weakness of thinking that the whole world revolves around them, end quote. So there is not necessarily a contradiction in their mind between universalist discourse and the practice of tribalism. If the Jew is the essence of humanity, what is good for the Jews is good for humanity on principle.

[D]

Well, again, that goes back to what. This is what I was setting the stage for earlier. Pete, regarding. Yeah, somebody else's. If everybody below. If everybody else is below you and possibly at the level of animals and they have an incurable illness, what do you do for their own good?

[C]

Right?

[B]

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Okay.

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Hey, bud, this is. This is what they do. They. They say, you can't believe in God. We can. But you can't. You. We get an ethnic state, but you don't. We get to have normal, you know, we. We get to have strong marriages, you don't. We get to have state support for our families. Families, but you don't. We get to have a sound economic policy, but you don't. We get subsidies, but you don't. And then when people notice that all the people pushing the stuff that destroys your country. Marcuse, Frankfurt School, France, Boaz.

[C]

Right?

[B]

These are all liars. Sick, evil liars. I mean, how Freud, how freaking sick and weird do you have to be to think that every dude wants to screw his own mother? What's wrong with you? Instead of like, oh, this guy's got something valuable to say. What's. Why did no one just take a step back and go, dude, what's your problem? Like, everyone wants to screw their own mother. Really? That's some sick man. Like, I, I. The inability to be honest and reflect, you know, I'm not gonna defend people that share my race or ethnicity or religion who've done evil things. Like, I'm not going to defend them on that basis.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You know, if, if there's, if some libertarian, you know, does something awful. Right. The, the center for a Stateless Society guys, right? No one, no one was like, oh, yeah, well, it's perfectly okay that I forget what his name was, but, like, you know, he molested his own daughter, got arrested in McDonald's. No one in the liberty movement was like, you know, this is really awful, but we have to defend him because he's a libertarian. They're like, this guy's a sick. And he needs to be out of our. Out of our movement opened. You know, all the decent people were right.

[D]

Right. You know, well, that's a Patreon. Again, like, not to keep harping on this, but, you know, this is a drama I've been beating for a long time. D. That's a patriarchal attitude versus a matriarchal attitude. Don't hurt my baby. He didn't do nothing. You know, he. My baby. Don't, don't. Don't take him. You know, but dad, that's mom, dad says no. Whoop that boy's ass. He shouldn't have done that. Whoop that boy's ass. Right? That's. That's what it is. You know, that's how it works. You're a parent. Am I wrong? Isn't that how it really works?

[A]

That.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And like I said a million times, this isn't to degrade the feminine and say that there's not A place for it. There absolutely is. But this is why they don't scale well at a societal level. Because the feminine starts turning into the psychopathic. And when it gets scaled up, like, that's what this is to me. Like, that's what I keep getting out of this. Maybe I'm just suffering confirmation bias or projecting my own beliefs onto this, but as I read this article, I'm just like, this is what I've been saying for a while. I, I don't know that I would agree that it's all psychopathy or sociopathy. But I, I do agree that there's a lot of that, that feminine energy that's just out of balance and just destroying these people, you know, and has been by accepting the curse of Eve. But anyway, yeah, that's what you were

[B]

saying when Ben, when Ben Shapiro says, I don't give a damn about the browning of America, I care about ideology. Right, okay, fine, fair enough. And then says, America has to like, bankrupt itself, making sure that Israel has all the shells and nukes and, and whatever it needs. Ben doesn't see the contradiction there.

[D]

That, well, that's what I was saying earlier. That's the worst part is he, he doesn't see it. Like, it's not an act. He, he literally doesn't see it. And that's why is to go back to what you said. D. How am I supposed to live with this man? Like, he literally. This isn't a matter of him even lying. Like, eventually, if I show him enough evidence, he'll come on my side. That's never going to happen. You and I both know that's never going to happen. We could show him reams and reams of data.

[C]

Right?

[D]

But he's never going to change. It's not going to happen. Right.

[B]

And if I say, okay, fine, Ben, right wing Jews like you are okay, you're nationalists, you're. You're on side, you're. You're pro Constitution. If I just round up all the communists and do what's necessary for the communists, are you going to complain? Like, no. Like, oh my gosh, the anti Semitism of rounding up Marcuse and the Frankfurt school and throwing them in the east river and leaving them there. Because that's what should have been done. They should have landed in New York and like, oh, hey, that's nice. And then they should have been like, driven out into Long Island Sound with concrete around their ankles.

[C]

You said something there. D That I will say I'll try to push back a little bit upon. You said that they're allowed to believe in God, but we aren't. Well, no, we are allowed to believe in God. Just we are only allowed to believe and worship like they want us to. You've seen that recently where. Oh yeah, you know, people with the whole, whole, with the whole crisis king thing, it's like we're, you know, we can believe in God as long as we believe in it. Like Andrew Clavin wants us to do, Jeremy Boring wants us to do. Yeah, right, Jose. Yeah, as long as, as long as it's in line with how they want us to worship God.

[D]

That steps back to Dee's point earlier about how these people are trying to tell us how of worship. Like, d. You had used Buddhism for an example. Like, imagine if you went to, to, you know, somebody that we know we're mutual friends with and say, yeah, well I know more about your faith than you do. Because my wife took a yoga class once. Like, yeah, could you imagine, like the temerity of saying that statement like, right, yeah, my, my wife had. I, I took care of the kids one morning on a Tuesday and she went to a yoga class. So let me tell you how to behave.

[A]

That also kind of reminds me too, to go back to like the manosphere or like red pill spaces is whenever, like women get in those spaces and they become like influencers and then they tell like men like, what to do. Like, it's like, it's so subversive and obviously like feminine.

[D]

Right.

[B]

So, so I, I mean, the reason Ben Shapiro argues way does is because he's five four, maybe five, five at the top and maybe 125, 130 pounds. And the dude's never thrown a right cross that landed clean in his life.

[A]

Yeah, he's getting shoved in a locker, to be honest.

[B]

Like, right, So I, I'm reasonably a big guy, over 6ft and over 200 pounds, but I don't go picking fights with dudes who are seven foot tall and 300 pounds.

[D]

Yeah, bro, I don't, I don't pick. I, I'm, I'm six, three and I don't pick fights with dude that are at all because it's like, I, I don't know what this guy knows and why do I need the trouble. Exactly how to fight and not to go down the wrong rabbit hole here, but if you really know how to fight and you've been around the block, you know that especially as you get older, nobody wins a fight, you're still going to pull something. You're going to hurt something on his jaw, you know what I mean? Like, you're gonna break a knuckle. Yep. Everybody who's actually been in a tussle muscle listening to me right now, especially as they get older, like, yep, yep. Yeah. So to go back, only bone.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The only phone I've ever broken in my whole life or in my hands. And that was because in a fight.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

I've never broken a leg or an arm or anything. But yeah, my. What are they? The metatarsal metacarpals or met. Yeah, yeah, those I broken because I got in a fight and I punched someone in the friggin head.

[D]

Yes. Right, right. So I'm only going to fight when I really have to, because even if I win, I'm gonna lose. And for guys like us, you know, who have to pay our way because we don't have our own ethno state to pay for us, you know, it's like, well, that's time out of work, that's time at the doctor, that's time here, that's time that I can't get other stuff done. So anyway, I don't want to go down the wrong rabbit hole, but I do want to say one last, one quick thing over a side note to Jose. Jose, I'd love to use this opportunity to say we should talk sometime on your show. Show more about the manosphere and everything. Yeah, I think we could have a good time on that. I don't want to take up Pete's time with that. We're here for a different reason. But I would really like to keep. Put that on your radar, if I may.

[A]

Yes. One thing I want to add about the picking fights. I joked with somebody that when you have like a really Jewish controlled foreign policy, it's kind of like, it's like one of those like YouTube, like hood pranks where you have like people that are like going. It's like it operates on that kind of logic where you literally have like this group of people that are trying to like stir in like the most dangerous areas of like the globe. And it, it. And when you have like the, the psyche of like organized jewelry with like a delusion of grander, you're gonna have people that are just gonna create all sorts of enemies, man, like you. That's how like you now have, have literally this like triumvirate of China, Iran and Iran and Russia forming like a balancing coalition against the Judeo controlled West because of organized jewelry picking fights of people from George Soros complaining about how China won't let him short sell to like Russian Jews that have like centuries long grievances with if Russia trying to topple Russia and then like obviously Iran, like the Zionist fetish with Iran. These people, they, they. Their delusions of grandeur and like lack of like self awareness leads you to these situations where there's no. It's no longer a prank. It's becoming like a really nasty reality that's going to blow up in their face.

[D]

Yeah, Jose. And I mean to kind of, again, to kind of go back to what I we say. I agree with you. I think that's a phenomenal, a phenomenal metaphor by the way, really do. But to go, to go back just a little bit, you know, I'm sure you guys will understand. I'm sure D does being married, I'm sure Pete does be married, but like, it's like having the woman in your life just start picking fights with guys in the street. Like, how dare you talk to me that way. My husband will kick your ass. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. How about, how about we talk about this a little bit at first? You know, you're gonna get me fighting every dude in Walmart or Target or whatever.

[A]

Like.

[D]

Right, well.

[B]

And this is not to say that I haven't had to like, you know, Shaniqua energy.

[C]

Right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I remember being in a big city several years ago and it was one of the, you know, Pacific Northwest cities that has gone to pot. But this was before the summer of Floyd, so it wasn't as bad then, but it was bad, bad. And I'm walking down the street with the Mrs. And you know, we, we just gone to like a Walmart to get something and, and we're on our way to do something else. And this absolutely, you know, absolutely high as hell dude starts like giving my wife the I want to do things to you eyeball. And so I kind of look at him like, really, bro? And, and he kind of backs off a little bit and she, she kind of gets behind me and I get in front of the guy and

[D]

you

[B]

know, the usual dumb posturing.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He goes, right, you got to do your job. Yeah, I'm not putting.

[B]

Yeah, right, right.

[C]

So.

[B]

So it's not, it's not that, that you know, I'm allergic to doing that. If she'd the difference between that and then her, her being like shoving her boobs in the dude's face and then getting offended when he's like, hey, yeah,

[D]

that's what I'm talking about. Right. I'm not talking about a Man, right. Do what he has to do. That's not what I'm, I'm talking about. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

[B]

Trying to analogize here, right? Like Israel, right? American Jews are responsible for the crime that happens in your streets because they're the ones who stopped us from enforcing the law. American Jews are the ones who are responsible for the destruction of republic education system because they're the ones who did it. American Jews are the ones who are responsible for almost every social pathology in America today because they're the ones behind all of them. Pornography, abortion, divorce, you know, you name it. They're, you know, Dennis Prager admitting. Oh, environmentalism, communism, socialism, humanism, all Jews, everything except Nazism. Okay, thanks, Dennis. Thanks for, thanks for the one ideology that actually works against you people. But right, if you're going to be responsible for all of these bad things, if you're gonna go pick fights with people who want families, with people who think that killing babies, like you're gonna go pick fights with all these people and then get mad when one of them takes you up on it and then hide behind a guy, you're insane. Exactly. You're completely insane.

[D]

That's exactly it.

[B]

Instead, you know, like, how many billions of dollars has Israel gotten just from Christian pilgrims who want to go see Jerusalem? Jerusalem? Oh, yeah, I guarantee you it's billions, billions of dollars just in tourist, tourist revenue alone.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Instead of saying, well, you know, we really appreciate you guys coming here and we want to make sure that you guys have a good time and we, we want to keep you safe and all that. What do they do? They spit on Christian clerics.

[D]

I was gonna say, don't. They literally spit on them. Aren't there a few videos out there, hear of them? Literally spit?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like an abbot in, in his full clerics with his pectoral cross. There was an abbot of a monastery, I think, in the Middle east somewhere, but he was like, literally, you know, an abbot in Jerusalem. And all these little 12 year old, you know, ultra Orthodox kids spit on this guy. Like, okay, well then, you know, if, if, if to use an analogy, right, if the four of us were like, this is Long island, this is Catholic, and we spat on a rabbi, right? In a group. If the four of us as a group were like, this is, this is Mick Wap. Mick Wap Storage in Long island, right?

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Like, you know, tlm, only everybody's gotta have a big gold crucifix, right? Right. You know, like, if you don't have your rosary with you, we punch in the Face. Right. You know, if we. If the four of us were in a group and spat on a rabbi in Long island, how long do you think before we were arrested?

[D]

Oh, minutes.

[B]

Right.

[A]

With a quickness, man.

[B]

Yeah, right. But. But in Israel. All right, so this is. Again, you just can't live with these people. You can't. But how, you know, if. If they won't enforce the law against theirs, but then, you know, make the law such that, like, you just can't live your life. And living your life is against the law.

[C]

Right.

[D]

All right.

[C]

Want me to keep going?

[D]

Yes, please.

[C]

There are so much more. And although fundamentally racist Jewishness cannot see itself as such. Judaic ethics, by definition, deny racism. A Jew cannot be racist. Eli Weissel. This does not prevent the same Eli Weissel from stating that Jewish history describes an ongoing conflict between us and the others. Since Abraham, we are on one side and the whole world is on the other. It has often been said that the Jews have an ethnocentric conception of universal history which has no meaning in their eyes except in relation to the Jewish people. Joseph Castine acknowledges this in his book History and Destiny of the Jews, 1936, quote. Because it accepted the idea of the chosen people and salvation. The Jewish world was Judeo centric, and Jews could interpret everything that happened according to a single point of view, do with themselves as the center, end quote. Joshua Jehuda illustrates this perfectly in Antisemitism Mirror the World quote. He who plumbs the depths, the depths of universal history to gain an overall vision finds from that ancient times until today, two opposing currents are fighting over history, penetrating and shaping it constantly. The messianic current and the anti Semitic current. Because messianism and antisemitism are the two opposite poles of the journey of humanity. In his megalomania, the psychopath is convinced that when he uses others, it is for their good. Similarly, according to the rabbinical logic, it is to enlighten humanity that the Jewish community must preserve itself, prosper, and eventually dominate humanity. Judaism considers only the salvation of the House of Israel, which alone will permit the salvation of the 70 nations of the universe. That's from Rabi, Anatomy of French Judaism, 1962. This is where the double ethno religious nature of Judaism helped streamline the paradox that the Jews should remain a separate people in order to spread their universal religion. Such Jewish intellectuals as Felix Adler have defended the paradoxical idea that the Jewish people must remain ethnically united to accomplish their mission, to spread the universalism that will dissolve ethnicity from the rest of humanity. Only when the mission is completed will the Jewish people disappear. In this way has the most ethnically oriented. In this way has the most ethnically oriented community manages to impersonate the champions of universalism. Thus when Martin Buber called for the state, calls for a state for the Jews, it was so they could serve humanity. For it is only by fulfilling his messianic dream of a national home, he said, that the Jewish religion can lead humanity towards the messianic age. This argument developed by reformed Judaism is intended primarily for goyim, but also for soft Jews in order to convince them that their commitment in favor of the group is a service to humanity. I love when people talk about how Christianity is an evangelizing religion, Islam is a conquering religion, and Judaism has no evangelism or anything. Of course they do. They admit it. There's a video of them talking about tika malam. Well, yeah, other than spreading their beliefs.

[D]

But I think it's. I'm going to say yes. And to you, Pete, I think it's worse than that, though. Whereas if. If I'm a Christian and I'm evangelizing, that means I want you to become a Christian. That means I want you to join me in my faith. These people don't want you to actually join their group. They just want you to be their employee. They want you to behave the way they want you to be. They want you to behave, but you're not actually allowed in the club. You can just work for them. Like, that's where I think this is even worse than evangelizing. Like, at least say what you will about Christianity. At least they'll let you join. Say you what you will about Islam, but at least they'll let you join. These people will never let you join. You are never part of the club unless you're born into it. You are never part. Yes, and I'm sure there'll be some listeners that say, well, no, technically you can convert. And they allow conversions. Like, yeah, right, but they're not, they're not open, armed. Yes, you're allowed to do it, but they're not trying to get you to become Jewish.

[C]

Nobody comes up basically and says, come to my synagogue.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Nobody says conversion comes up when, when a Jew wants to marry a goy, right? Then the goy, the goy has to convert. Otherwise they're not. And you know, from what I've heard is they're never really accepted after.

[D]

Right, but I've heard. Yes, exactly.

[B]

Yeah, so. So certain people will be allowed to convert and will be treated as respectfully because of like Ivanka Trump. Right. She converted and she's allowed in because she, you know, she comes with access to billions of dollars in power.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[A]

That's the cat.

[D]

Exactly. It's no different than Scientology. Like, like, if you.

[C]

That's.

[D]

That's the same.

[B]

Right. And so there are, there are, you know, wealthy women who married Jews who convert to Judaism con. And, you know, they're, they're allowed in the club, as it were, because they're a celebrity and they have power.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But it'll be three and four generations. Like, wasn't your great great grandmother a goy, you know, like within the inner, you know.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

And one of these things about this sort of, this attitude. Right. Is it's inherently very gnostic too, in the sense that there's always an inner, inner circle. Right. So would any, any three letter acronym with the letter J in it. There's going to be a Jewish organization that has that, you know, the ajc, the cga, the, the bjc, you know, like, like any, you know, there will be a non governmental organization dedicated with the, with that acronym. And if you get to, you know, the Central Committee of Rabbis in Israel.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Well, they say, oh, yeah, we'll let Ivanka, you know, convert and she can come, come visit. But she's not really Jewish. Her children at the, you know, like, maybe her grandchildren will really be Jewish.

[D]

Right.

[B]

You have to be three generations removed from being, being a goy before we'll really accept you as a Jew.

[C]

Right, right.

[D]

And exactly my point.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. The innocent victim. I've actually, from my. The last time I talked about this, I actually clipped this and I put this on my reading of this two minute reading of this. I spread this around because I think this is one of the most important points in this whole whole. In this whole paper. The psychopath is unable to see the other person's point of view, and criticism strikes him as irrational aggression. This is the reaction of the Jewish elites to criticism. To them it can be nothing other than the expression of visceral. Visceral antisemitism and atavistic boyish disease. Judeophobia is a psychosis, wrote Leo Pinsker, a founding father of Zionists, a hereditary demonic madness, a congenital perversion of human mentality passed down for 2000 years. Incurable. The psychopath does not know the feeling of guilt. He constantly plays innocent. Those who get in his way or even cast a shadow over his path are solely responsible for their own destruction. Their Accusations are baseless fabrications, their anger and irrational hatred. One thing that Judaism has, which other spiritualities lack, is innocence, explains Andre Nair, one of the leaders of the Jewish school of thought of Paris, with Emmanuel Levinas and Leon Ashkenazi. We are innocent, and we feel even more deeply that we are innocent when we are accused. It is this innocence that we must be aware of at present and that we must never deny, never in any circumstance. And it works. You will understand nothing of antisemitism, wrote John Paul Sartre, if you fail to remember that the Jew, the object of so much hatred, is perfectly innocent, nay, harmless, anti Semite. In June 1946, John Paul Sartre the Jewish question is thus reduced to the question of antisemitism, which, thanks to the mythology of the Holocaust, is elevated to the status of metaphysical evil. The hatred of the Jews is the enigma of enigmas. Andre Glucksman Hate Speech, 2004 it is a necessary enigma without which the Jewish people could dissolve. Toward the end of his life, the Jewish writer Ilya Ehrenberg repeated that he would consider himself a Jew as long as there was a single anti Semite left on earth. Persecution is the central theme of the Passover holiday, Hanukkah, Purim and Yom Kippur. And Jewish history as taught to Jewish children, according to Michael Walser, is one long tale of exile and persecution. Holocaust history read backwards. According to historian Zygmunt Bauman, Israel uses the Holocaust quote as the certificate of its political legitimacy, as a safe conduct pass for it, as a safe conduct pass for its past and future policies, and above all, as advance payment for the injustices it might itself commit. I mean, how do you even comment on that section when it just. It speaks for itself?

[D]

Well, I mean, the thing that I find interesting about all this, I have a couple points highlighted on my copy. And the first is that quote, as long as there was a single anti Semite left on earth, end quote. About that, he would consider himself a Jew. But yet you go back earlier in the article and it says they believe that it is them against the world. Therefore everybody else is. Everybody in existence is an anti Semite fight other than them. So it's. It's tacitly saying we have to get rid of everybody else. Like, like, we literally have to get rid of everybody else in order to be. Who in order to be safe.

[C]

Like.

[D]

Like, that's. How else can you read that? There's not a better way to read that.

[B]

No one else.

[C]

One of the points.

[B]

No one else can have any Any decision making power in their country. Right. Because they need, they need servants. Right. Because, you know, but, but they can't. They, like you said, Charles, like, they'll let you in to, like the vestibule.

[D]

Right.

[B]

And, and they'll let you, they'll let you, they'll let you, you know, haul water and hue and hue wood, but they won't let you into the congregation, as it were.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

And, and so if everyone is your enemy, Right. Then they, then, and you still need certain things done, then none of those people can have power. None of those people can pursue their own interests because obviously they're going to be against your interests because they're your enemies.

[D]

Right, exactly.

[B]

So you, you literally have to dominate all the nations of the world, destroy any ability for those people to pursue their own interests. And, you know, this is a great way to create anti Semites because, I mean, Charles and I've been friends for many years. Ten years ago, neither one of us was an anti Semite.

[D]

Absolutely not. Right, Correct. Correct.

[B]

And it, it was exposure to them and their, and this sort of behavior. You know, I used to listen to Dennis Prager every day. Dennis Prager was my favorite talk radio host. I loved him even more than I loved Rush Limbaugh. And it was watching the behavior of the Jews that turned me into someone that they hate. It was watching this exact behavior that this guy's been going over. The psycho, the psychopathic behavior, the double standards, the hypocrisy, hostility to everybody.

[D]

Yeah, it's. My attitude has been, they didn't, they didn't make me their enemy, but they certainly have made me realize that they are mine. Like, I, I don't, I don't want to say that. I just want to be left alone, bro, because I, I don't believe in that philosophy, especially after listening to the two of you in your last excellent broadcast. They want you dead on the inside, too, which. Absolutely brilliant title, gentlemen, but what I have to say is I look at it more, and forgive me for using this metaphor, but I look at it as very much like a snake. It's like, no, I don't hate the snake. I don't want to necessarily kill the snake, but I certainly am going to keep my eyes on it. I certainly am going to watch where it's going, what it's doing. Like, I, I, and I certainly don't want it in my bed, you know, in my living room, in my kitchen. That's, that's my attitude at this point

[B]

point, like around my kids.

[D]

Right, exactly. Right, that. Exactly. And it just. Because how can I think otherwise? You know, if somebody were to just randomly say, oh well you're, you're just hateful, you're an anti Semite. It's like, well first off, what does that mean exactly? Because anybody, according to the a lot of these quotations is automatically an anti Semite. They're just automatically because I'm. I'm not in the club. I'm therefore against them. So what does that even mean? And second off, how could I not be even if even if it does mean what they say it means? And I'm not pun. I'm not giving that ground to use a friend's quote. I'm not buying the frame, thus buying the farm. But let's just say to be devil's advocate that I, that I do. How could I be anything else? I mean it says here throughout that I can't basically be in the club. I'm always going to be in enemy. I'm not. I'm. I'm less than human. Or at least I'm certainly not as evolved a human as they are. How am I supposed to take that? I. I don't think there's a rational way that I can just be okay with that. I don't see it. If there is, then by all means you're welcome to enlighten me. But I, I don't see it.

[C]

Well, I mean, you know, just go back to Freud's comment about universal obsessional neurosis of humanity.

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[D]

Right?

[C]

Which lets. When. When, when Vincent James and and I think it was Fuentes were debating Gavin McGinnis and I forget what that guy's name is. Adam King or something like that. And Vincent asked the question to King of if you could get rid of Islam or you could get rid of Catholicism, which one would you get rid of? And he said Catholicism. And it's like, okay, the cat's out of the bag. That's when Gavin McGinnis walks out. But yet, I mean, he still wears the leash proudly. But. Yeah, I mean, that's. Obviously they want to get rid of. Of they want to get rid of Catholicism because Islam is not their enemy. Yeah. What did the one guy say? Islam is the broom. Islam is the broom of Judaism.

[D]

Yeah. I didn't. I don't know. That's a great quote. I didn't hear that.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, look at the historical record of the expulsions. They're predominantly from Europe, not really from the Middle East.

[D]

And of course they'd want to get rid of Catholicism. They got the Messiah and they killed him. Yeah. It's like, what if you have a messiah, then you can't have a messianic religion any longer. It's like you already have a Messiah. There's nothing to wait for now. That's everything to.

[B]

To just talk for just a second.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I know, Pete, you've been to the occasional traditional Mass. I don't know if Jose or Charles. Yes, I have.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. To liturgy post for just a second here. The best people who've ever done an explanation. If you go to Catholic Family News, they have a website and a series on there, like comparing the old and new Mass. But if you go to an old Mass and the full thing with, you know, the priest, the deacon, the sub deacon, you know, multiple altar servers, the whole 9 yards choir, everything, there's a moment in the old Mass where the sub deacon, who represents the Jews, covers his eyes as the gospel is moved, or is the liturgy book is moved from the right side of the altar to the gospel side to the left side, and that is to symbolize the Jews blindness to the full truth of the faith.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So the old. One of the reasons the old Mass was destroyed by Jews, you can look it up. Like the Daily Forward has, like, the Jews, you know, instrumental in Vatican 2. So this isn't. This isn't me. This is them.

[C]

Malachi, Mark, Malachi, Martin being bought off. Basically.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, there's a whole bunch of other people that will admit that. That. Yeah, they'll admit it amongst themselves. You know, one of my favorite games is Daily Forward or Daily Stormer. Right. You just take the body and. Anyway, so you take that.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And they're not wrong that. That, you know, European Christian civilization is inherently anti Semitic. Okay, fine. Why not just leave then? Why do you insist on staying in France and England and Germany and Spain and Italy and all these, these, you know, Christian countries. Why does Barbara Spector say, well, you know, we'll be resented, but we're instrumental in making Sweden to, you know, diverse. Why, if, if the Swedes are your enemies and you're teaching your children that all the Swedes want to kill all the Jews, why do you insist on staying here? Why don't you have Israel? Why not go? Why do you gotta.

[D]

Why.

[B]

Why is, you know, a part of Brooklyn where if you don't read Hebrew, you can't understand the street signs? Why, why don't you just go? Why don't you leave?

[D]

Well, they don't.

[B]

Why do you have to be here?

[D]

Right? Well, they don't go because they know that if that, that means they're not special anymore. Remember, they define themselves by their opposition. That's, that's what they do. I mean, they say, why would you want to live? You get rid of everybody else.

[C]

There, there.

[D]

It says in this own article that once we dissolve everybody else's else's ethnicity, then we don't exist anymore. So therefore they don't want to really at heart, dissolve everybody else. Because if they do, then they're gone. Like, that's their own philosophy. That's not me. That's their words. Yeah, I mean, they claim it's a goal, but they don't because then they'll lose their identity. They don't want to lose their identity. They won't be chosen anymore if everybody else is gone. So they work towards it, but, oh, half heartedly, really. I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but it does. But it really is at the end of the day, a half hearted wantedness. Because if they really wanted to be, to be just one of the crowd, as you say, D. They would just go somewhere and be one of the crowd. But they don't know.

[B]

I mean, like if, if you think that, that everyone else is a psychopath out to kill you.

[C]

Yes, right.

[B]

Like, like, like you mentioned, right? You know, the friend of yours who's like, mom, why are you inviting my classmates to Barmbritz? Right? Like, like they want, they want us to die. Like if, if every Swede secretly, in his heart, you know, is naturally wants you to die, why didn't it just leave Sweden? Why not just go? Why not just leave France? Why not just leave the United States? If, if the United States is this, you know, you know, avatistic Christian crystal fascist country, was only like five minutes away from like doing pogroms again. Why not just go? Why not just Leave. Why do you. Why does Ben Shapiro, you know, fake move to Nashville and then goes down to South Florida with all his buddies? Why can't, why can't they just, you know, I'm not really a big fan of South Florida. We'll call it New Israel. And, and you. All the Jews can move to like Miami Dade County. It could be its own sovereign state.

[D]

Right.

[B]

You know, whatever. Just go there, leave us alone. But because they're inherently parasitic, you know, this is the Jews complaining about their treatment in America or Western Europe is like a tapeworm complaining that like the host is like. Like you really need more XY in your diet. This is not as comfy as it should be. Yeah, right. Like you need more iron, buddy. I'm not getting enough here. Like, this is, this is psychopathic. It's insane.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Speaking of. The next section is called Israel's Psychopath State. The state of Israel is now in the international scene. What the psychopath is in a human community. With regard to the Palestinians, Israeli Jews consciousness is characterized by a sense of victimization, a siege mentality, blind patriotism, belligerence, self righteousness, dehumanization of the Palestinians and insensitivity to their suffering. In the words of journalist Akiva Eldar, Operation Cast Lead against Gaza in 2008, 2009. As noted by the Deputy Director of Military Intelligence Yehoshaphat Harkabi, dazzled by its self righteousness, Israel cannot see the case of the other side. Self righteousness encourages nations no less than individuals to absolve themselves of every failing and shake off the guilt of every mishap. When everyone is guilty except them, the very possibility of self criticism and self improvement vanishes. The Israeli journalist Gideon Levy wrote in Haaretz in 2010 that only psychiatrists can explain Israel's behavior. Well, unfortunately, the psychiatry is a Jewish. Is basically a Jewish invention. So that that would be. We can imagine what that explanation will be. However, the diagnosis he offers and found

[D]

there was no crime.

[C]

There you go. However, the diagnosis he offers, including paranoia, schizophrenia and megalomania, is in my opinion insufficient. It must take into account Israel's extraordinary manipulative capacity on the world stage via corruption and propaganda, that is to say, the bank and the press. Israel's relationship to the United States is that of a typical psychopath to an influential. To an influential and impressionable man. He has decided to use to accomplish his misdeeds. The golden rule of manipulation formulated by Colonel Mandel House, who is the intermediary between the Zionist network and President Woodrow Wilson, applies Generally to Israel's manipulation of the United States. Quote, with the President, it was invariably my intention to always make him believe that ideas he derived from me were his own. Indeed, Israel has managed to lead America into a Middle east policy that only serves, serves Israeli interests. By pretending to the American people that it serves their interests. The psychopath tries to interfere in all the human relationships of his prey so as to prevent any alliance that could allow him to be unmasked. Isolate and divide and rule are the essence of this strategy. This is exactly what Israel and its neoconservative moles have done by trying to split the United States from its historic allies in the Middle east with the aim of one day remaining the only ally of the United States in the area. The demonization of all heads of state in the Arab world is part of this strategy. That's one of the reasons why, when people say, well, why would the United States keep overthrowing secular dictators? Secular. Well, let's call them dictators. I don't think that's a bad word. And replacing them with, with clerics who are out of their minds and lunatics. Well, because then it gets. We get to hate them. We, we're not going to look upon

[B]

the guys who are tacitly supporting the clerics like, you know, not a big fan of Jimmy Dore's politics, but he's an honest man and he'll, you know, like, he'll talk about the fact that, you know, Netanyahu bragged about supporting Hamas, you know, in 2019, ISIS fighters in Syria, like, got treatment at Israeli hospitals. The Salafist Muslim, you know, insurgency in Iraq, that, that was so monstrous. The Israelis never went after, they never went after the Israelis. There was no, there was no terrorist attacks in Israel. They destroyed the Christians, you know, and the reason Baathism, right, the bath party is secular Arab fascism. And the Christians in Iraq, the Christians in Syria both supported Saddam Hussein and the Assad regime because that was the only thing standing between them and the Salafist craziest. So why, why destroy those? Well, because what happened to the Assyrian Christians, the Georgian Christians, the Marinette Christians in Lebanon, the Coptic Christians in Egypt? What happened to all those people? They all got destroyed. Yeah, you're seeing that right now with

[A]

Armenia, with Azerbaijan basically being like, in

[B]

Israeli proxy as well. Yeah, right.

[A]

Actually, there is even a really blatant, like, mask off article from this, like, Israeli think tank that they were saying, like, that Western forces should not try to destroy ISIS in Syria because this could create a power vacuum that Hezbollah will assume will fill. It's just like, it's so, so obvious at this point.

[C]

Yeah. Isis, I mean, means is Israel. It's just short for is Israel. Because they're, they're, they what? They bombed. They were bombing southern, in southern Syria and some bombs went over into Israel and they went into the newspaper and they apologized. Why, why would they apologize if all they want to do is kill Jews? Right. And that's what we're told. Right?

[B]

Yeah, well, and that's where the dishonesty of Jewish figures in the media, you know, essentially, you know, Andrew Clavin will be like about this Tucker Carlson interviewing this Lutheran pastor from Bethlehem.

[D]

Right.

[B]

You know, and, oh, this is a, you know, Tucker's going on a dark path and doing total distortions and. Okay, well, if you weren't just a psycho, a Jewish narcissist psychopath, Andrew Clavin.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You, you would be. Okay, well here's why he's wrong. And you cite some examples, right, of why this Christian cleric who's from Bethlehem and can't go to Jerusalem without getting shot, basically prisoner's own home. Why would he feel the way he does? A non, a non psychopath would try to empathize and be like, okay, well I can see why you feel that way. And here's why, here's how we would come to sort of some sort of motives of interest. Here's how we would live together, you know, but they don't because they're dishonest psychos.

[C]

The power of the Zionist manipulation of the United States based on quasi total control of the mainstream media alongside large scale psychological operations such as September 11th is truly bewildering. But it becomes understandable in light of the cognitive mechanisms of psychopathy. It even becomes predictable to some extent if we keep in mind that the psychopath has no ability to question, no limits to his appetite for power, and no remorse about leading humanity to, about leading humanity into ruin to save his skin. Nothing better illustrates the psychopathic nature of Zionism than the apocalyptic nuclear blackmail Israel perpetually exercises over the west under the name the Samson option. In 1974, gold in my Ear summed it up as Israel's willingness in a doomsday situation to take the region down with it in the event of looming defeat. And remember, there is no limit to the psychopath's thirst for power because he does not seek power for the comfort it can bring him, but instead loves power for the sake of power. Conclusion.

[B]

Speaking of the Samson Option real quick, the Samsung Opsin isn't Just like if you destroy us, we'll nuke Damascus and we'll nuke Cairo and we'll nuke Ankara and we'll nuke Beirut, right? Whatever their enemies in the Middle east, they've threatened Athens and Rome and Paris and, you know, European countries too, because it's the responsibility of Europeans to make sure that they don't lose, right? You know, you have Jews, whether it's in New Khazaria, in Ukraine or in Bibi Netanyahu. Like you got these two Jewish presidents and people have made lots of jokes, but, but fundamentally, right, you get these two Jewish presidents of these two, two Jewish ethno states with, without freedom of religion, with, you know, all these other evil policies that, that if we tried it at home, they'd be the first people to complain, right? But if you do it in Ukraine, you do it and you do it in Israel, it's okay. They've both complained. You need to give us more money and more guns and more, you know, more lawyers, guns and money or you're a bad person, or you're an anti Semite, or you're a criminal or you're the. What the fuck? I mean, sorry to swear, but like, what in the hell is wrong with you people? I mean, that is madness. Like, if I don't give you guns, if I don't give you billions of dollars that I can't afford, that I need for myself and for my children, for my country, for my home, then I'm a bad person. When your own people in this country are wealthier than anybody else. Ben Shapiro has millions of dollars. Let Ben Shapiro, like, like let there be the Ben Shapiro Brigade, the Daily Wire Brigade and the Daily Wire folks with all their millions of dollars, they can do it, right? Why you gotta reach into my pocket? I haven't got a dime to rub, two dimes to rub together, right? You know why I don't have two dimes rubbed together? Gas is $5 a gallon and food costs 25. And whose fault was that?

[C]

Who was Biden? It was Biden's fault. It's all Biden's fault. Isn't that what, Isn't that what Ben Shapiro is going to tell you?

[D]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. It's not his Secretary of Treasury. It's not his Department of Home Security. It's not his, you know, his NIH and his Department of Health. Wait a minute. Who's in charge of all those? His secretary, right?

[D]

Yeah,

[B]

His sec. His Secretary of Homeland Security is letting in 10 million, you know, violent welfare dependents into my country in the last four years and I don't have any money because of it. But you know, highest board member Andrew Alejandro Mayorkas. He's just a purely disinterested guy. He's just delib.

[D]

Liberal.

[B]

He's not actually a Jew. Right. I know you're old enough to. Old enough to remember this. Pete, do you remember David from.

[D]

I remember that name.

[B]

What a loathsome creature. That's exactly the right answer. So we'll bring him up because I only. I brought him up on this this week's third rail. So give that a listen at the right stuff. That bizarre come out comes out Sundays. David from. Started out Canadian, came to the United States, became a policy guy, right? Wrote George W. Bush's Axis of evil speech that basically, you know, that had that insane Manichean thing of like if you're not for this new conservative project, you're an enemy of all humanity. Right? And so he, he picked the fight with the whole world world with that speech. Right? And then as the conservative base in America was like wait a second, we're not getting anything out of this and became more Trumpy and became more paleo conservative, returned to actually what our ideological roots are as an Asian, more Taftian Republicanism.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Tariffs more, more Calhoun and less, less ridiculous messianic nonsense. He is now over at the Atlantic

[C]

magazine

[B]

as a far leftist talking about how. Right. You know, the, the COVID image of the, the latest Atlantic magazine. Right. The. The end of the golden age for Jews in America. What? I thought David from was a conservative.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Shapeshifter. Wait a second.

[D]

What?

[B]

Now

[A]

you want to know something even wackier about David Frum? This goes back to your point D about like the tapeworm complaining about his, his host getting too fat or out of shape is that he's not like a liberal, but he also will like counter signal them saying like you guys need to like reconsider your open borders, your like mass open borders policies because it's, it's provoking a right wing backlash and it's like dude, you're the one that's like advocated for the nonsense before. And to be honest, I hope like one of those like migrants from like the Middle east introduces you to like some of the Middle east as a finest cutlery. So to get your come up right.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And, and you know, this is a guy, his, his wife I believe, Daniel Crittenden, who's also like a, you know, a big wig and watch. She's a convert in Judaism, so his children won't be considered, you know, if he wasn't like the, you know, Canadian Jewish royalty. Because his mother, Barbara from, was like a big columnist at the Toronto Star.

[C]

Right.

[B]

He's not a particularly intelligent guy or. Hey, guys.

[A]

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[D]

Yeah, right.

[B]

And I said it last time. But, but like, you guys are all more insightful than he is. Why aren't you, you know, on the, you know, senior editor at the Atlantic magazine or Harper's or something like that? National Review? Why isn't Human Events called you guys up and said, hey,

[D]

Right, Exactly.

[B]

Yeah, well, that there's a reason why. It's because. Because who controls all of those?

[C]

Nepotism.

[A]

Yep. Yeah, right.

[D]

There's a sound bite for you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, well, I'll let. I could rail about this for like, literally all day and, and never repeat myself, but I'll let Pete continue.

[C]

All right, let's do. Let's do the conclusion and then we can continue the conversation. All right, conclusion. By drawing a parallel between psychopathy as a personality disorder and the attitude of Israel, I do not mean, of course, the Jews in general general. They are the first to be manipulated by their elites, and they are part of a collective psychopathy only to the extent of their submission to those elites. Jewishness, do not forget, is whatever idea the Jews make of it, and the ideas the Jews make of it is almost entirely the one imposed on them by their elites. What is at issue is the prevailing ideology of Israel and more discreetly, of the organized Jewish community. Dominant discourse is always shaped by the elite. Something, a strong current of popular thought emerges. Sometimes a strong current of popular thought emerges to challenge the dominant way of thinking. But nothing of this kind is yet observable in the Jewish community. It is overwhelmingly docile to its elites, which currently dominates the media and the entertainment industry, and therefore enjoys considerable mind control powers. Their ruse is to maintain in the Jews an absolute conviction of the immaculate innocence of their people and simultaneously to inculcate a paranoid fear of antisemitism. This disease transmitted for 2000 years incurable. Quoting Leo Pinsker in the Corporation the Pathological Pursuit of Profit and power. Free Press 2005, Joel Bakken noted that that those legal persons that are large companies behave like psychopaths, insensitive to the suffering of those they crush in their pursuit of profit. Corporate behavior is very similar to that of a psychopath, quoting that company culture, which involves every employee to one degree or another, is driven by its ruling elite. The Enron case has shown the world the tremendous damage that can be done by a company run by people of high intelligence and perverse ideology. My analysis here of the Jewish community is based on exactly the same reasoning. Like it or not, the character of a nation is as much determined by its legitimate leaders than the reverse. Until proven otherwise, Benjamin Netanyahu is as much Israel as Vladimir Putin is Russia. Ledeen is indeed a terrorism expert. He is said to be an Operation Gladia Wet operative. And since Israel has New York as its second capital, we must also count among its elites the neoconservatives. Neo here means crypto and conservative means Likudnik, whose leaders define themselves as disciples of Leo Strauss, therefore implicitly as super Machiavellian in his thoughts on Machiavelli. In fact, Strauss claims he is the only one who understands what Machiavelli why Machiavelli never dared to write. This hyper Machiavellianism of the neoconservatives, to which they admit when speaking amongst themselves, must be taken very seriously. In an article in the Jewish world review of June 7, 1999, the neoconservative Michael Ledeen defends the thesis that Machiavelli was a secret Jew since, quote, if you listen to his political philosophy, you will hear Jewish According to Strauss, Machiavelli is the super patriot who understands that only the nation has an eternal soul and that therefore the best leader is one who has no fear of losing his soul, since he has none in practice. The art of the Machiavellian prince is to terrorize while diverting popular resentment towards his enemies. I believe that the admission of Ledin sheds light on the psychopathic nature of Israel. From the Judeo Machiavellian, that is Neoconservative point of view. The current leaders of Israel, from Tel Aviv to New York, from Benjamin Netanyahu to Larry Silverstein, are super patriots. This article is in no way antisemitic. It is a severe criticism of Jewishness as a system of thought, a representation of the world and the self. We are critiquing an idea by exposing its dangerous irrationality, nothing more. Even if it is as old as the world, an idea still deserves critique. Since the first Victims of a toxic area are the men and women it inhabits. They are likewise the first we would help liberate. This article is basically a fraternal message to all Jews. Jews of all countries. Jews of all countries. Disunite. Break away from your elites and their pathological ideology. Rejoin humanity. Likewise, not all elites deserve to be put in the same bag. Many are the Zionist leaders who have had the courage to confront the monster they created and to try to undo the damage. Moshe Charette, foreign minister from 1948 to 1956 and prime minister from 54 to 55, advocated a moderate Zionism, respectful of international laws, in contrast to the methods of Ben Gurion, Pennis Levon, Moshe Dayan, Shimon Peres. The Klan determined to set the Middle east on fire. That's a quote. To frighten the west into supporting Israel's aims. Another quote. By raising terrorism to the level of a sacred principle. Another quote. According to Charrette, the Zionist leader Nahum Goldman quoted above was in favor of a genuine dialogue with the Arabs and was deeply disillusioned by the attitude of Ben Guri, whom he described as, quote, organically incapable of compromise and blinded by self righteousness. After 1967, he became an outspoken critic of illegal occupation in Palestinian territories. During the government of Begin, he advised President Carter to break the back of the Zionist lobby that he had long headed, which he believed had become a negative factor afflicting American foreign policy. Why have men like Charette and Goldman never managed to overcome the psychopathic ideological power machine of Zionism? Could it be because it, like Jewishness itself, is rooted deeply in the Bible? In the final analysis, does not the Zionist manipulation go back to the creation by those ancient priests, the Levites, of a tribal God by the name of Yahweh who usurped the title of the Creator of the Universe and Father of humanity? Ultimately, is not Zionism the logical outcome of Yahweh? This is a question that I will reserve for another article. Yeah,

[B]

three and a half pages of notes. So this isn't just some dude giving opinions. This is three and a half pages of citations.

[C]

Yeah, there's. Oh, the sites. There's 37 citations in here. A few of them are over and over again. He's. I mean, and a lot of these books I've read. I mean, which is. Which is. Right.

[B]

So 37 citations in 10 pages, right? This is like a major citation in every paragraph. I just want to talk about the new conservatives for just a second. I know he brought up Andrew Clavin earlier, but it's. It's worth talking about here for just a second. Now, some of the West Coast Straussians at the American Mind have kind of come along to.

[C]

They.

[B]

They have fully understood that, like, America is weak. And Angelo Cut Ofiella and those sorts of guys. West Coast Straussians at the Claremont Institute have. Have almost kind of come on board with, like, the mega thing, but they're still Jews. And so I'll just bring this up for a second. So Andrew Clavin sits there, apostasizes on television, and still presumes to lecture Christians. But there's standards in the Bible, Bible for, like, who should talk? And his son, his only son, Spencer Clavin, is at the Claremont Institute. He is, quote unquote, married to another dude who's the Daily Wire's lawyer and claims to be a Christian. So here's this guy who's openly a sodomite, presuming to lecture Christians and conservatives about. And he's got his own podcast about, like, the. The classics or the Western tradition and. And stuff. And he's got his very cushy perch at this new conservative think tank that is largely responsible for all the problems we have today in foreign policy. No one at the Claremont Institute should ever talk about public matters ever again. Anyone who is responsible for the Iraq war, I've had to, loudly.

[C]

And.

[B]

And I. I will continue repenting for my support for the Black War for the rest of my life. But I wasn't the Deputy Secretary, Assistant Secretary of Defense when that happened. I was just a dude who listened to the radio. Right. Like, I'm not responsible for all the dead. All the dead kids in Iraq.

[A]

Claremont was ghoulish at that time, too. They were, like, saying, like, they didn't go far enough.

[C]

Right.

[A]

With the war on terror.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So these are people that, you know, Michael Ledeen should never be allowed. Like, he shouldn't. He should be in jail, honestly, for war crimes. But if he wasn't in jail for war crimes, every time he leaves his house, he should be pelted with rotten fruit and call a kid murderer, because that's what he is. Right. But there's never admitting that you're wrong, never paying any consequence.

[C]

Right.

[B]

How many. Paul Wolfowitz, what's happened to him? You know, Don Rumsfeld died in bed. That shouldn't have happened. Right. We're talking about. If Andrew Clavin wants to presume to lecture Christians who listen to other Christians who say we're being killed and our churches are being destroyed. Andrew Clavin shouldn't apostatize on television and. And not fit the requirements of like, hey, if your son's gay and proud of it and talks about how he's a gay Christian, maybe you should just be quiet. Maybe you shouldn't be lecturing other people whose children aren't openly flat, you know, committing sins on the regular that cry out to heaven for vengeance. Just saying, like, where's. Where's the humility of, like, I. I screwed up it really bad as a father to have a gay son because. Because somehow his son got abused. That's how that happened. Right. He let his son get abused somehow. Because it's your job as a dad to make sure that sort of thing does not happen to your children.

[C]

Right.

[B]

If there's any job that you have as a father, it's making sure that some other dude doesn't physically sexually abuse your children.

[D]

Children.

[B]

That's like job number one, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And here Andrew Claven is, you know, he ought to just, like, shut his mouth and be ashamed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But he never will.

[C]

A little bit of breaking news. I don't know. Oh, yeah, I was gonna say anything. Yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. 50 to 50 to 100 Iranian drones are headed towards Israel. Israel right now? Yeah.

[B]

May God speed the day.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Let's hope that the Holoc Talmudic serpent meets its maker.

[B]

Well, if they bombed the consulate in Syria and killed major Iranian generals, if the. The Israeli consulate in Egypt got bombed by a bunch of people from Sudan. Right. Do you think that the Israelis wouldn't, like, level Sudan to the ground?

[C]

Right.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

Are you crazy? I mean, I know I keep repeating this, but this is. This is worth. These people are crazy. This. This whole paper, you know, we just spent the last two hours going over this paper. There is not one example you can cite of these people being reasonable with other people. You know, privately, Charles and I have disagreed about stuff over the years. Privately, Pete and I have disagreed about stuff. I bring it up to Pete in private. Peter goes, yeah, okay, I see your point, but I also disagree with you, and we're just gonna have to learn to live with it. I go, okay, yeah, sure. You're right. Same things happen with Charles. Same thing happened was to say I've interacted with almost everyone who's there's to able to interact with on the far right. I disagreed with them or agreed with them across the board. You know what I've never done?

[D]

Refused to see their point at all. Yeah.

[B]

And then, and then said, oh, if you disagree with me, you're, you're, you know, you're an animal. You're not a human being. Which is what these people are doing. Doing.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Just to step back to the psychopathic behavior real quick. I had a couple notes that I wrote down while, while we were going over the conclusion and one of the things I just want to mention is they, they constantly discuss and in all forms of media, the rising, the rise of anti Semitism quote. And I think it's interesting when one combines the information age, the global information network with abusive behaviors that psychopaths. I prefer sociopaths, but I'll keep to the word psychopath because that's what the paper uses the. So the psychopathic behaviors of divide and conquer manipulation. And I think it's interesting because my perception after reading this is that really what they're saying when they say anti Semitism is on the rise? They say it's really what we call the noticing colloquially. But what the noticing is in the context of this paper is seeing the divide and conquer is seeing the abusive behavior. Because as somebody that's been in more than one abusive relationship, as the victim, and yes, that's on me, I am the weak link in my own chain. I can say like when you're trapped in one of these things, it's hard to see the forest through the trees, as they say day. It's hard to know you're being abused until you start talking to other people that are in healthy relationships and you're like, wait a minute, wait, this isn't normal.

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They said, no, that's not normal, that's crazy. Like why are you letting her do that? Or why is this happening? Or why, you know, why you're letting her seeing them do that or him do that. And that's what's really happening is a lot of people are starting to see that their friends are being abused or that they are in an abusive relationship. And that's why these people are scrambling because the abuse is being spotted and that's why they have to shut it

[B]

down, because that's why they have to ban Tick Tock.

[D]

Right? Yeah, exactly. Like at the end of the day, that's why it's really. Because that's what the noticing Clip colloquially. That's what it is. It's just everybody acknowledging that they're in an abusive relationship and everybody pointing out that you shouldn't be treated this way. It kind of goes back to Europe. Not kind of. It does go back to your point. D. With the whole. Okay, I. I get it that I. I shouldn't have these things, but why do you have these things? You know, why. Okay, if you say I shouldn't have these things, but then why do you. Well, you're not allowed to point that out. You're not allowed to see the abuse. Abusive nature of the relationship because it was. If it was a healthy relationship, well, then we. Then I. You can have what I can have because I care about you and it's a good way to live, etc. Etc. And that's really what the noticing is just all of us revealing to one another the. The unhealthy relationship and what we. In which we find ourselves.

[B]

Another point of an analogy.

[D]

Yeah, go ahead. Please go.

[B]

Okay, so if I go to work at a job I don't like,

[C]

and

[B]

I come home and I buy my spa, you know, but. But it pays well, and I work hard and I buy my wife a nice house, right? And I come home and I get in the driveway, get the mail, open the. Open the door, drop the mail off, and then I'm like, you know, glad you have a nice house and it's got those beautiful ceilings and everything's really nice, and all the bills are paid, and then I walk through the house and go out the back door and go lay down to a shed with a cot and a hot plate. If I'm paying for the nice house, but I don't get to live there, I don't get my. You know, like, people are like, what in the. What is wrong with you, man? Your wife is psycho. What do you mean you can't live at home?

[D]

Exactly. Yep.

[B]

That you pay for.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

That you. That you.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But you gotta go live in the shed on a cot with, like, a space heater and a hot plate. There's no comb. Cooked meals. You don't, you know, you got to do the laundry at the laundromat. What.

[A]

What?

[C]

Right.

[B]

That's nuts. And, you know, I mean, to your point, Charles, about the. About the. The abusive relationship. Right. For all those people, you know, Andrew Clavin will sit there, and I know I've been picking him a lot, but he deserves it. We'll sit there and say, oh, America's got a major problem with abortion. Well, Andrew, if I point out who, who's behind abortion, freaking Ruth Bader Ginsburg was abortion Barbie for these. Who's that? Who's behind abortion?

[D]

Right.

[B]

Who's, who's the people that supported it? Who's the people that it made it possible legally?

[D]

Right. And I don't, I don't want to cut you off, but I just want to say the last two very brief points that I have, because you've just led into them. One of them is it touches back to Pete's anecdote about the individual that he knew that he was genuinely befuddled. The individual that he knew was genuinely befuddled, why everybody would be invited to the celebration when they all hated him and wanted him dead. It's like this, and this is what I think of. I love that anecdote so much because to me that, that confirms the last words in this conclusion. The ones that I want to hold on to too. It's like, no, I'm not doing this to, to hurt all Jewish people. That's not why I'm doing this. I'm doing this to critique the idea and I'm doing this for kids like that. Like what's, who does that to a child? Who makes a child that neurotic, that paranoid? Like, my issue isn't that they have their own culture. My issue isn't that they have their way of doing things. I happen to believe everybody should have their way of doing things. But when it's abusive, when it's destructive, when it's perpetuates a cycle of horrors, like, then it shouldn't be a thing. And to me, like, I want to free the 12 year olds that are like that, that are in that mindset. That's what I want to do with this conversation. I mean, obviously I can't solve all the world's problems with the conversation, but I'm just saying, to me, I agree with the last line in this. My goal isn't to, isn't to just, just attack, attack, attack. It's, it's righteous anger and it's for what I'd like to believe to be a higher purpose. And then the last thing I'll say, and that's it for me on this, this episode, as far as I'm concerned, to give everybody else the time to finish their thoughts when they talk about Hyper Machiavellians. One thing that's always driven me crazy is when people constantly Use the quote, it is better to be feared than loved. That's, that's completely missing the point. Point? Yes. It's technically accurate, but it's completely missing the point. The quote in its entirety is in the question of whether it is better to be loved or feared. The answer is, of course it is best to be both. However, if one must choose, it is better to be feared. But the actual quote, it is best to be both. Like any good father d you as a man who have children, it is best if your children both.

[C]

I was just thinking.

[D]

And fear you. Yes. They should fear when dad comes home if they've been misbehaving, but they should love him and look forward to his return. I'll stop there. I'll stop.

[B]

I just, I just thought of that myself a little bit. But think about this, right? So these, these neoconservatives have hollowed out America with their idea ideology of free trade and effectively sub. I can't remember where I saw it, but someone said, you know, the entire 20th century was a bribe to the rest of the world, right? America had everything and we gave it all away as a bribe to other people who won't reciprocate, right? There's, there's, there's absolutely no way that we're getting all that manufacturing capacity back from China. China's never going to be like, you know what we need to do? Free trade. Like that ain't happening, right? It not gonna happen. So there's this vast destruction on all areas of American life, economic, social, political, religious. You know, you can't, can't name a sphere where things have gone better in the last 80 years after Jews took over in 1950. Like you just can't. And a sane, healthy people would look at that track record and go, okay, what do we need to change to turn this ship around? And it might not be that you need to like defenestrate all Jews from any position of authority, responsibility or influence whatsoever, But you'd have to at least look at it and go, well, who was in charge of the ship when he ran into the iceberg? You know, maybe we shouldn't put that guy in the captain's chair again. And the second you ask the question of like, well, you know, a constitution that allows pornography and abortion isn't much of a constitution really. I mean, if you think about it like shouldn't, shouldn't we take a look and go, well, who's, whose idea was it that like murdering babies and, and letting 19 year old girls sell images of their Naked butt on the Internet was like somehow like a core part of freedom of speech, whose idea is.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

That's insane. And lo and behold, every single time. It's every single time, you know, Stu Peters two years ago was like a conspiracy guy who thought that they were putting nanobots in the vaccines. Not saying Stu was wrong about the vaccines, but what Stu talk about now, it's just. It's Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews. Because everywhere you look, in every single endeavor, as Dennis Prager himself admits, everything but Nazism is Jews all the way down.

[C]

Okay, thanks.

[B]

Thanks, Dennis.

[C]

Yeah, it's interesting to me that I. Before October 7th, you know, I had really started talking it up and everything, really started mentioning, hey, there's this group that has out, you know, over overrepresented control, and they're called the Jews. And I had somebody who I know in per. In real life, somebody that I've, you know, had had a meal with, who contacted me and said, said, I had totally given up on your show because of this whole Jews thing. You just talking about the Jews until October 7th happened. And I saw how they reacted. And you saw how, you know, people who never talked about their Judaism before, you know, Dave Rubin. Well, how did he. How did that sodomite ever. You know, he'd mentioned it in past. You know, Gad said. I mean, I didn't know. I didn't even know he was Jewish. I didn't even real, you know, never even gave it a second thought because I thought he was just a milquetoast, you know, gatekeeper kind of kind. And then he. He unleashes and everything. And it's like, I'm not saying that October 7th was the, you know, the greatest thing that ever happened. I mean, I wish stuff like that didn't happen in this world. World. But I'm also realistic. And I know man's. I know man's nature, but I also know how people react when they've been, you know, basically oppressed for 80 years. But really, the. This wouldn't happen without the Internet. And I don't think this would happen without Twitter becoming as open as it has with Musk buying it where people can talk. I mean, and I know that there. I know Jared Taylor's not on Twitter.

[D]

Twitter.

[C]

I know Nick Fuentes isn't on Twitter. Guys, I'm not saying it's. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'm saying that it's. It's the great. You know, I mean, that you would not be Having these conversations you wouldn't be having. People like, you wouldn't have Candace Owens doing what she does. If you think she's a grifter, I don't care. But it's, it's amazing. I mean, you have Candace Owens basically like people, people contact me and go, does Candace Owens listen to your show? Because she, she's repeated, she's tweeted word for words, word for word, things I've said on my show.

[B]

Of course, Tucker Carlson's repeating stuff I've said. And it's not to say that necessarily that people are listening or Blake Neff was, you know, feeding him lines. It's just that. The only people that are having real conversations is usually. Right. Yes, that's, that's, that, that's, that's been the case for at least 15 years. I mentioned this years and years ago to somebody else. But trying to describe politics without being honest about Jews or race or women

[D]

or

[B]

any other things that we're honest about. No one else is honest, but it's like trying to build a bridge without, well, ignoring like Newton's laws of physics, right? You just, you can't, you can't do it. And so necessarily, as things get more difficult, as the money runs out, as debts gets higher, as inflation, as, you know, world stabilization, as these foreign wars go on, right? All of these other things kind of like you can't paper over the problems in the world with like sympathetic media coverage and quantitative easing anymore. Right, Right. And so as these things have gotten more difficult, right, you know, Candace first got in trouble by like, she's a black lady, right? You promoted her knowing that like, black women are insanely solipsistic and incapable of, of listening to arguments, right? You put her in front because you've, you've made it so conservative. Anytime a conservative says, well, how about I just advocate for myself as a white dude, you're like, no, we must find the base black person to talk for you. Otherwise, otherwise, you know, you're, you're not, you know, you're not allowed, right? And, and so you, Candace Owens, like when she first got her start, she was like gonna run like a doxing website. I've never trusted her, but I'm not the one who, you know, she, she ended up married to a dude, George Farmer. Remember, his father is in the House of Lords and is worth hundreds of millions of dollars or a billion dollars or something, right? Her, her father in law is literally a baron in the House of Lords. And do you think that she just found that Connection, like randomly walking down the street like some dude.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Like, no, she got there because of who she knows, and she was. I think he was part of, like, TP UK or something.

[C]

Turning Point usa. TP uk. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. So, like, that. That's who she, like, she was promoted to these, you know, to this stuff because of who she is, because she's a reasonably intelligent, you know, articulate black person who's clean and doesn't, you know, like, whatever, you know, Joe Biden said that applies to Candace. And because, you know, Kanye. Right. Obviously one of the top 10 most important entertainers in the world, whether, you know, whether you like his music or not. I've never bought a Kanye album, never listened to any of his stuff, but I have to acknowledge knowledge that he's a big deal.

[D]

Yeah. That he's influenced.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Right. Whether we like him or not, he's influential, full stop.

[B]

Right, Right. So when she does what black people do, which is say, be insanely, insanely solipsistic towards their own race, you guys get mad at her and, you know, like, okay, I'm sorry, this lady's had kids, and then you bomb a bunch of kids that look like her kids, and she gets upset like, she's a woman. What's.

[D]

Oh, yeah, I'm just gonna say, like, what woman is it? That isn't even a black thing. Welcome to women, bro.

[B]

Like, like her little. Her little mulatto quadroon kids look like Palestinian kids. So when. When you bomb kids that look like her children, and then she gets upset, and then you're mad that she's upset, bro, are you retarded?

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

Very, very, very, very, very briefly to Pete. Your. Your point about, you know, we wouldn't have these conversations if, if we didn't at least get the stranglehold on them loosened slightly. And I did like how you point out, no, we may not have Nick Fuentes or et cetera, et cetera, on Twitter, but at least we're able to have these conversations. And I, I, I want to follow up to that. That's an excellent point, and I want to dovetail that with mine. You don't need a trained psychiatrist to come into you. And I. I know it's a bit bad choice of words on my part, but just bear with me. You don't need a trained psychiatrist to come in to your house and say, pete Canones, you're in an abusive relationship. What you need is D or Charles or Jose to sit on your porch and have a beer with you and be like, bro, that's up. Your wife did what? No, man, that's not up. Up. That's up. She shouldn't do that.

[B]

What do you mean? You're sleeping in the shed, man.

[D]

Yeah, right. That's exactly right. Am I wrong? D. Am I like, you just. No, no, you just need a buddy to be like, yeah, Pete, that's weird, dude. Wait, you mean my wife shouldn't do X? It's like, look, I know all women are crazy, but that's really crazy. Like, that's. That's above, beyond the pale. And then you'll start figuring it out yourself. You just need to have somebody. Most people just need to have somebody open the door so that I'm sure your wife's a wonderful woman. Pete, I'm just. It's just an example. But the point I'm saying is, like,

[C]

yeah, you know, I've dated a psycho and not. Not in the far. But not in the far past either. So.

[D]

God.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. Like, Charles, you know, when. When. When the X keys. You know, I hate love you. You into your car.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I go, she did what? Charles.

[D]

Right. Oh, they don't all do that. No, no. They just badmouth you on social media and then move on with life.

[B]

Right? Like, you need to, you know, right. You know, like, that's not normal behavior. And. And again, this. We've. We've spent, you know, two and a half hours here, two hours talking about not normal behavior.

[C]

Right?

[D]

And like I said, that's why I just wanted to dove deal that with Pete. A ton of super, like, super air quotes, knowledgeable people. We just need people to just tell each other. That's not right. That's not healthy.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Well, and for all of these people, right, like the article brought it up.

[D]

Where are

[B]

the Jews who will admit.

[D]

Admit

[B]

that. Well, this is Matt, you know. Where are the Jews that will admit they control everything and they're doing a bad job? Where are the Jews that will admit race is real? Where are the Jews that will admit men and women are different? Where are the Jews that will admit America, like, free trade doesn't work.

[D]

And.

[B]

And free, you know, the free market's. Where are the Jews that will admit John Sikahun or Carl Schmidt is right. Okay? They don't exist. You. You can't point to me to a Jew who will tell the truth the way I would tell the truth.

[D]

Where's.

[B]

Where's the Jews Jewish conference, Catholicism, saying, yes, the traditional teaching of the faith is anti Semitic, and it's right to Be so right. Unless a Jew is a Brother Nathaniel tier.

[D]

I was just gonna say Brother Nathaniel's the one I can think of.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[D]

But I would say just to be devil's advocate D. And I'm not trying to be an apologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I, I would say just a minor, A minor retort to your. Your thing would be they exist, but they're not going to be allowed to speak because again, it goes back to one. Reflects all of them in court according to their psychopathy. You know, so they don't want to get that ball rolling. Yeah. And again, I'm not, I'm not. Not being an apologist. I'm just saying.

[B]

No, no, I understand that.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, right, right.

[B]

But. But if these people were. Were deal withable. Right? If these people were accept, like could live with other people. Right, right.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

15 years I made this point on that show. Everyone should go re. Listen to the race war in high school series. But okay, Brown v. Board passes in 1904 or 19, 1954, because Jews wanted it to.

[C]

Right.

[B]

It was all Jewish lawyers. Fifteen years later, the kids that were born the year Brown v. Board passed, those kids are in American high schools kill, you know, committing attempted murder on their teachers, lighting their teachers on fire, literally raping their.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, literally.

[B]

Yes. Raping fellow students, sexually assaulting fellow students. Right. So not even a full generation after this passes did one single Jew go, you know, the entirely Jewish New York public school system go, oh, wow, this. That was a mistake. We screwed up. We need to reinstitute, like, we need to go back to Brown v. Board and say, yeah, that was a mistake, fellas. We need to, we need to reinstitute segregation and we need to do it yesterday. Though an honest man would do.

[D]

Do that. Right.

[B]

But, you know, whatever his name was, the Jewish president of the union that, that, you know, gets extensively profiled in. In Race Warren High School. He didn't do that.

[D]

Shanker. Was it Shanker?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I think that was who it was, but I'm not.

[C]

Right. So Albert Shanker.

[B]

Yeah. Did Albert Shanker go, oh, my God, I've destroyed public education in America?

[C]

No, they fortified. No, they took over the union, fortified it so that it couldn't be attacked, and basically gave themselves all raises.

[B]

Yeah, that's what they did.

[C]

Exactly what they did. That's what the book. That's the craziest thing about that book is I went into that book thinking, oh, I'm going to learn about this race. No, not only did you learn about the violence and the just absolute insanity that integrating the schools caused? But you also found out that the biggest, you know, one of the biggest unions in the country was run and completely consolidated by Jews and that the two thirds of the teachers in the union were Jewish. Yeah, it's an ethnic pot.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And you found out that what they did was they just basically fortified themselves as the leaders of it it and took all the money and basically gave it to themselves.

[B]

Right, well, and to, to call back to another show that you've done recently, Pete, the show with Katgirl Kulak. What, what do you think the incoming entitlements crisis is, but the coming home to roost of all those policies that were instituted in the 70s in, in reaction to the race we're in high school, the, the massive teacher pensions, the, you know, the incredibly bloated state budgets, the entitlement spending. What, what do you think that all that was but this, you know, and I, I, I, the guys at Myth of the 20th century talked to Mike from Imperium Press about lists, theories of

[C]

economics recently, Fraser Cliffs. Yeah, great episode.

[B]

Yeah, great episode. Give those guys a listen. They've been friends of mine for a long time, but. Right, so Alan Greenspan is sitting there saying the free market, the free market, the free market, the free market. Well, well, he's sitting there with, you know, buddies with Aaron Rand and everything else. And we're losing the ability to survive as a country. What do we produce? You know, if we were to get into a war with Russia or China right now they have larger military industrial capability than we do. You know, like, we don't have any shells, you know, Detroit, that built all. Everyone here listening knows how I feel about our conduct in World War II. Right. But nevertheless, like, like we built a lot of trucks, 9,800 aircraft went from not too far from me in Montana all the way up through Canada, all the way across Alaska, halfway around the world to the Eastern Front. 9,800. On top of everything else that went through the North Atlantic with that recent movie with Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks and everything that went up through Iran and, and into the Caucasus, right. You know, tens of millions of tons of supplies that, without which the Soviets would have lost the war. That's Joseph Sauen saying that, not me.

[C]

Right.

[B]

We've lost the ability to produce that stuff. And the same people who caused us to lose that capability, like Alan Greenspan, like Albert Shanker, by destroying our education system, by destroying an industrial base, by destroying our monetary system, they're the ones picking a fight with Iran, with China and with Russia right now are like, that is the behavior of a crazy person. And so you can't let crazy people, like if your wife is the sort of woman who will just randomly start shooting at a bar on a Friday night, guess what? You don't get to go to bars on Friday nights with your wife. Right. Like if you know.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

And, and I don't. I'm not sure that we would have to make every Jew like out of power and like bar them from power as a, as a matter of course. But it's a good start because I can't think of a single thing that's gone better since they took over in 1950, 1945, whenever it was. I mean you could probably draw the line in 1913, but being as generous as possible, nice run number 1950s when they took over America. And can you think of one thing that we do better now than we did then besides, you know, technology, which was basically all just a bunch of board Gen X white guys.

[D]

That's a great point. No, no,

[B]

I mean, am I, am I wrong? Pete? What? You know, like Jose.

[C]

No, I mean, yeah, it's, you know, we're at a crossroads and people are asking, people are black pilled. I, I get that it's, it's so easy to be black black pilled. People are looking for a Caesar. People are, they want answers, they want solutions. And really the, I think the easiest thing that we can hope for, not hope for, but because it just sounds so weird saying it that way, is that I think that with everything that's happening with Israel and I think that a lot of people may just decide not that, you know, oh, we need to deport all the Jews because let's face it, that's not going to happen. But that people are going to become more suspicious, they're going to distance themselves, they're going to stop doing business with company. There could be some kind of eye opening for people. I mean, I don't see anyone who runs, you know, ran for president, say that would be the kind of Caesar that would run on a specifically anti Israel kind of. Or anti Zionist, let's not even say anti Jew, anti Zionist. They're not going to get elected, they're going to get run out. I mean so much money is going to be thrown at them. I really think it's, it's going to have to be like a decision that people just decide to, I don't want to do business with that company if It's Jewish owned, if it's anything like that. I just don't know where else it goes. I don't see. Look at the problem we've had in this country for what, 400 years. We imported a labor force after it was decided, oh, that labor force, you know, we don't want them anymore. They didn't get rid of them. And look what we have now. What are the numbers like? If, if, if you take black crime out of, if you take Belgium crime out of the. Yeah. You have the, the crime rate, the, the gun violence of Belgium, you know, of, of a white, of, of a white homogenous European nation. No one's call, no one's calling for that. I mean, I just don't know what the answer is at this point. I, I mean, you're, that, that influence needs to people. You know, I mean, I think one of the things that you said, you know, when we were, we were texting back and forth one day, de was you just have to outlaw usury. You outlaw usury. And then, I mean that's, you need somebody to get someone in there who'd be like, okay, there's no more usury. And then what, I mean, that was,

[B]

you actually like, yeah, that was, that was your first. Like just outlaw usury. And, and that would, that would. Right. But again, you know, this is the behavior of a psycho. If, if, if what you say is true, that the Holocaust is the worst thing to ever happen and you're uniquely disturbed people, then like the Canadians and Americans and Brits who saved your lives. Literally pulled you out of the fire, you would want more Canadians instead. Who's replacing the Canadians like with Indians?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All those Red Ensign Canadians who died in droves at Juno Beach. The Scots, the Irish, the, the Welsh, the, the Brit, the Anglos, the Ukrainian Canadians, all of those people who died in droves saving your lives. What's happening to Canada? Who's behind that? It's being destroyed. You can just check out, you know, Ferryman's toll or Jeremy McKenzie or any of the other number of folks from Canada who. Why are you doing that? You know, if, if these people saved your lives, don't you want them to have like 10 sons?

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. Where are the statues, where are the statues to the American soldiers?

[B]

Yeah. Why isn't there like a 50 foot high statue to the great liberator Patton?

[D]

Here's to really demonstrates this, this psychopathy of it. To me, it's not even the absence of the statues that, that's in gratitude. That's a terrible quality, but it's not necessarily psychopathic. What's psychopathic to me is not the absence of the statues, but now the liberators are lumped in with the perpetrators. I. I can't even fathom that. Oh, well, white men are the disease. It's like. Wait a minute.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[D]

Wasn't it white men that saved you? Well, it was white men that was killing us. Okay, but also it was white men that saved you.

[B]

Like white men.

[D]

Hold on. A white man. That does matter. That absolutely matters.

[B]

Matters like the white German men? The white German ethnically German men who, you know, came from the midwestern United States to kill their cousins.

[D]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's. Again, I want to be clear to not. I'm going to overstate it so as to not be misunderstood. Yes, I agree there should be statues. Yes, I agree there should be gratitude. Yes, I believe those things.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

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[A]

prohibited by law 21 terms and conditions APPLY. Why?

[D]

Ingratitude is not psychopathy. Lumping your perpetrator in with your liberator is psychopathy.

[B]

Well and right. And. And of course they lied about.

[D]

We.

[B]

We could go all night about, you know, revision about what really happened from 1933 to 1946.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

But. But the truth is, right, it doesn't matter when you're dealing with, you know, a BPD woman, what you do, no matter what you do, she's going to lose her mind, key your car and blame it on you.

[D]

It's so funny you say that because I will not go down this rabbit hole, I promise. But that is really what I walked away from this article with was just. And I wrote this on Twitter for those of you that are interested. You could search for it that. Have you ever been in a relationship with a BPD woman? Congrats. You are now because that's what all of your government, all of your administration is. But I. I won't go any further with that. Now that's for a topic for another day. But you're right, D. That's 100, right? That's 100, right.

[B]

Alejandro Mayorkas is effectively a BPT woman.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

And.

[D]

And.

[B]

And it doesn't matter. Like, well, you know, Alejandro, like, we. We took you in from communism and we saved your family, and.

[C]

And we.

[B]

And we allowed you to prosper and allowed you to be wealthy and powerful and. And. And. And, you know, shouldn't you, you know?

[D]

Nope.

[B]

Okay, well, if you're just a Hispanicist supremacist, then then why are you in charge of, like, if you hate Americans and, you know, you want everywhere to be Cuba, why not go back to Cuba? Like, why are you here?

[C]

Right?

[B]

You don't like it here. You don't like the people here. You don't like their culture, you don't like their religion, you don't like their food, you don't like. You know, why are you here in the first place? You know, if I go to a restaurant and I don't like the staff and the food sucks, and I hate the decor and it smells bad, like, I don't go back there and just, you know, sit there complaining. Oh, my God, you know, I just leave. I don't spend more time in this place.

[D]

Just, oh, I hate it here.

[B]

Oh, man, everything's about.

[D]

This place is awful.

[B]

Oh, God, the waitresses are ugly. The cooks can't cook, and the food's terrible, and the decor is awesome. The silverware is dirty. I just get up and go, man. I. I don't like. Oh, I don't really like it here. I'm gonna. You know, I'm gonna order my one beer and leave,

[D]

right?

[B]

And. And, you know, thank you to Pete again. Once again, Pete's done the. Done the combing through the trove of forbidden documents so you don't have to. And, like, this is an incredible find, right?

[C]

Because this is.

[B]

This is just what's happening now. You know, who actually. What actually happened on October 7th, 11th, is a bunch of Jews who are rolling on Molly throwing a dance party in someone else's living room, Got kicked out of the other person's house by the angry father of the family. Like, why are you doing drugs in front of my children? Get out. And the cops who busted into to that guy's house to let their kids throw the dance party inside this guy's house got attacked. And then the insane overreaction of the police department to this domestic is they burned the living room down. Most of the people who were killed on October 7th were killed by Israeli fire. Now, if you don't pay Attention to our sorts of things. You're not going to find out that, like, like, you want to be rolling on Molly when you get, you know, blown up by your own helicopters.

[C]

Right.

[B]

That way it'll sparkle when you get, you know, like, wow, the chain gun has such pretty lights.

[D]

Picture from the 2012 movie Dread, where everything's just nice and nice and pretty in the horror.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's what's going on. And you know, oh, God, we crushed a pelvis. She was raped to death. What are you talking about? You're crazy. And the more and more people are finally realizing that these people are crazy. The Ben Shapiro is crazy, that al, you know, Andrew Clavin is crazy, that all the, the Shabbat goyim like Eric Erickson are crazy, that, that all of these people are dishonest, insane, or both. And that's the. Their biggest fear in the world is someone like Pekinones gets instead of Chuck Todd the Jew. If Pete Quinones ran, you know, Meet the Press, you'd actually learn something. And that's what they're terrified of. They are terrified that they, if the media actually informed you as to the truth of what's going on, that's their biggest fear.

[D]

Yep. Yep. They don't want an abused relationship. Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. Well, we've been going for over two and a half hours. Let's, let's end it right there. I'll give everybody a chance to, to do a closing, closing statement or whatever you want to do. So let's start with Jose, because Jose has been the quietest among us.

[A]

Yeah, I, I've come to like the realization of this, that. Say what you want about social media, and there's plenty of criticism on my end about it, but it just has not been in the social media era, it has not been kind to Israel and organized jewelry. And I liken this to. I'm alluding to a speech that John Mearsheimer gave, like, I think almost a decade ago, where he talked about how the rise of social media has made it, like, incredibly difficult for countries like Israel to get away with its mistreatment of the Palestinian people. And it was just only a matter of time before this became mainstream, like criticizing Israel now because there, there's clearly an act of desperation on the part of a lot of Jewish interests now to censor any criticism of Israel or any type of criticism of organized jewelry altogether online or in meat space. And this is clearly a case of them fearing that, like, there is some. Something brewing. And we mentioned in, in our discussion About Candace Owens. There is, like, a really peculiar trend now among black conservatives. They're revolting against Zionism as well. When you had, like, Jason Whitlock, of all people, bring on E. Michael Jones and then the Hodge twins, like those of YouTube, like Fitness Influence, turn MAGA. People, people. It's getting really out of control. And we are in a watershed moment that is one of, like, the most, like, unpredictable times of, like, contemporary political history that I think is very fascinating. I've. I'm one of, like, the more, like, cynical types, but I am excited to see both domestically and geopolitically, how things unfold. Bold because we are on the cusp of a massive paradigm shift, and it's going to be entertaining to say the least.

[C]

Charles?

[D]

Yeah, Just a couple very quick thoughts. I want to build off of what Jose said. There's an old saw. Forgive me, I'm gonna. I know I'm gonna butcher it. But I believe the audience, and you gentlemen will get the point. There's an old saw that goes something along the lines of a lie makes itself way around the world faster than the truth can get its trousers on. Well, the good news is that with the information age that we have now and the technology that's available to us now, that we can get our trousers on faster than ever. And it can be moved around. And we don't, as I said earlier, we don't need an intellectual Caesar to tell us we're in trouble. We just need to see that for ourselves. As I've said many, many times, and Jose and I can discuss this one day, perhaps together on his program. As I said many, many times, Facebook did more to help the manosphere than the manosphere did itself. By women just showing their behaviors openly on Facebook, it made every guy realize, you know, the girl just didn't treat me that way. Women treat men that way. Everybody, everywhere. So men were able to form healthier relationships from that. Maybe some of them made the choice to simply not in get in relationships at all, which I think is a mistake, but they at least avoided abusive relationships. And I think that's what we're seeing here. We're seeing just that information, that truth get out faster and faster. And if I can boil it down to just one line, I would say while the Internet proliferated profane nudity, it also proliferated naked truth. And we should be grateful for the latter. The

[B]

I just couple. Yeah, I completely agree Charles's point. And what's interesting about, again, the system is not running well. And what Candace Owens or the Hodge strings or whatever, they've realized that they're being replaced as, you know, America's unpredictable underclass that occasionally works by, you know, Hispanics and others. And they're upset about that. And that's why you're seeing the rebellion, you know, that's why you're seeing the blacks in Chicago complain about all the stuff given to immigrants and Stephen A. Smith, who's a vilely anti white man, you know, complain about all this free stuff given to immigrants. But it's. It's that naked truth that's getting out there that is our greatest weapon. And I would just encourage people to, you know, follow the people that care about you, whether that's Jose substack or Pete substack or, you know, kicking both a couple bucks. Buy Charles's books. I bought both Charles's books. Books, you know, and continue to support the people that don't lie to you. You know, if you have a boomer friend who's, you know, loves the Daily Wire, just show them these lies that the DUI is responsible for. You don't need to get them to Pete, but if you turn them two notches to, you know, maybe. Maybe get them off a Daily Wire and onto Tucker and, you know, move them.

[C]

Darryl, like Daryl Cooper. Get him to martyr me.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. You know, Daryl's great. Listen to Daryl's series about Israel and. And the whole war there. And he's very fair to both sides. You know, he. He doesn't shy away from the atrocities committed by Yasser Arafat, but he's also doesn't say that Moshe Dayan was a saint because neither of those things are true. You know, Daryl was remarkably even handed with that whole series, and it's like seven hours long. It's really depressing.

[C]

I had to cut it up to

[B]

like three or four different chunks because I couldn't handle it. But, you know, it is important to tell the truth. And the only people doing that right now across the board are people that are, you know, dissidents. I. I just promote that. This is my third show in two days. I. I did Third Rail yesterday, and I did another episode of National Institute for Game Review. Both those can be found at the Right Stuff, that biz. And then, of course, there's my telegram and stuff. But, you know, if you don't like me, if you don't like what I put out, find someone else who's telling you the truth about these issues and support them. That's all I would ask for people is, you know, support the people telling the truth and, you know, free man, they will all be on the wall. Slash, donate, I think is the correct. But, you know, I kick Pete a couple bucks every morning, month because I. Not just because Pete's my friend, but because I believe in the mission that Pete is doing. Pete's not my friend. Pete is my friend because I believe in the mission. And I just want to thank him for once again unearthing a text that I never would have found on my own that's, you know, worth its weight in gold.

[C]

And I want to thank the Twitter rando who pointed it, pointed me to it, because I didn't know it existed until someone randomly on Twitter and anon was like, here, check this out. And I read it, and I was like, wow, okay. I think, you know, my audience needs to hear this. And, you know, I. I will say this, that I had someone contact me and say, you know, this is somebody who's a little more mainstream, but, you know, still somebody I'm friendly with and said, I read it to my wife. I wanted my wife to hear this because, you know, it's in their own words and, you know, it's something that they. They needed to hear. So just want to thank all of you. Until the next time, next month, we'll come back with another one, and hopefully, hopefully, we can outdo ourselves every time. Hopefully. Hopefully. They just. We just keep getting better and better. But I do want to thank you all and thank everyone for listening and, yeah, keep your heads up. White pills only. And just prepare. Prepare for what you need to do to get through this. And hopefully I'm helping. Hopefully I can add a little bit of help with that. And you're always free, everyone's always free to reach out to me. So thank you, gentlemen, and thank everyone for listening.

[D]

Thank you, Pete.

[C]

Guys, we're not even going to do introductions. I'm sure everybody knows all y' all by now. What de. Do you want to jump into, like, a two minutes of hate already?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I. I subscribe to Roger Substack so you don't have to. Listeners pay Pete as recompense for my pain, please. So for those of you who don't know or didn't pay attention to the last Old Glory Club Live stream, South Baton Rouge just seceded from Baton Rouge and is going to call itself St. George. And Roger used to actually live in what is now St. George. And I first started following Rod about 20 years ago when he was still at National Review, and National Review was still worth a damn because Derbyshire was still there and others. And even then you got the sense that Roger understood that Christianity and liberalism are incompatible. But it made him really uncomfortable. And he published like this several thousand word piece about how St. George is like this, like failure of the Civil Rights act and what are we going to do? Like the people who don't want their kids beaten up or raped in school aren't villains. But also what about the poor? The poor children and the dysfunction. And his father was a Klansman and very contentious like Rod wrote about this bunch. The cowardice of the conservative establishment to just admit that the old right was right is going to doom this country,

[D]

has doomed this country. But yes,

[B]

thank you for the correction, Charles, that later I had an interesting conversation with someone who's very senior in aviation and it's bad, but the, you know, Rodrier was like the absolute right edge of the Overton window for many, many years. And his refusal to just acknowledge the facts. Race warrant high school came out in the 70s.

[D]

I was just about to say D, not to cut off your train of thought, but that's. I wasn't being pedantic and jumping on you about that correction. That was not pedanticism. Please don't take that as such. I was going to make the exact point you're making now, which is race war in high school was talking about as far back as 1969 or 1971, whichever date you choose to use because it mentions both. And that is more than 50 years ago. So this is not a new problem. Even most of Gen X or yeah, I would say most, a significant percentage of Gen X has, has been living with this forever. That's how old this problem is. So please continue that. That's what I was just trying to draw.

[B]

And, and Rod's almost 60, so he's an older Gen Xer. I'm like the tail end Charlie of Gen Xers. So we got a bunch of cynical Gen Xers here. There's just, you know, four cynical Gen Xers complaining about the world.

[C]

Right?

[B]

That's, that's this show. Yes, but there is absolutely no way that Rod Dreher

[D]

or

[B]

Rich Lowry or Jonah Goldberg or anyone else on the establishment. Right. Doesn't know this is true because it's been common knowledge for half a century.

[C]

Right?

[B]

I mean, no, and, and the point

[D]

that I think that you've made many times and it bears repeating, I don't blame you for, for banging the drum repeatedly because it bears repeating and inculcation is the really only way you can get people to understand things anymore with the bombardiering of information. And that is that these problems have been around for a while. One of your go to lines and this is the drum you beat constantly, and rightly so, is X knows. And when I say X, I'm not referring to generation X. I mean random individual, pundit or writer or speaker, what have you. X knows what we know. How many times have you said that day? A thousand, two thousand? Three thousand? You know, X knows what we know. They just don't want to admit it because they want to be allowed to go to their cocktail parties. They want to go. They want the money, they want the prestige, whatever. They don't care that their society's falling apart. They don't care that most people can't walk the streets at night. They don't care that kids aren't getting any kind of education. They just don't care. They took the ticket and they're going to. And they're going to let Mammon give them a comfortable life. And then we all have to pay the devil because we're stuck on the same hellbound ride.

[C]

What I think something that I've really been examining recently as far as my own thoughts and basically looking at society, is Kryptos, who I had on the podcast recently talks about, I guess he had a professor who talked about first and second order disagreement agreements. And first order disagreement would be like us, us four here we have a disagreement and we'll get. We're going to work it out because we come from the same foundation. Foundationally, we're all in the same place. If we have a disagreement, even if it doesn't, even if we don't come to an agreement on it, we'll just be like, well, that's just one thing we disagree on. And, but it's fine. When you're dealing with this situation where you're dealing with a situation like St. George, when you're dealing with a situation like Baton Rouge, when you're dealing with a situation like how do you live with a people who fundamentally just don't know how to act?

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It's a second order disagreement. And a second order disagreement means that, that these are people who you have no foundation with. There's no argument to be had. There's no discussion to be had. There's no debate to be had. You just have to separate from them. You have to do whatever you did. What was it? Greg Hood had that great tweet about how the civil. All the Civil Rights Act. Basically what the Civil Rights act did was it created a world where all you're doing is trying to explain, escape from the, from everything that the Civil Rights act has created, and you're trying to hide the fact that you're trying to escape from all of the hell that the Civil Rights act has created. And that's basically where we're at. When you look at something like St. George in Baton Rouge, it's a second order disagreement. No more conversations, no more debate. We have to split from each other or bad things are going to happen. Right. And people, people have been convinced by, you know, democracy or the Enlightenment or the Renaissance that, well, you know, as long as we talk it out, we can just keep. Man, we just keep talking it out. We'll come to the. We'll. We'll meet in a place where everybody's happy. No, no, that doesn't mean. That doesn't exist.

[B]

There's a.

[D]

Go ahead, D. Go ahead.

[B]

Like, we'll talk it out. Like if, if you confine the conversation to 120 IQ plus white men. Yeah. Which was what the conversation was confined to until like 1950.

[C]

Right, right.

[D]

Because you're dealing with ideas that a lot of people can't process. And even if they could, like, let's just, let's. Let me step that back just a bit. Let me not, not be condescending unintentionally, but let me not be condescending. Well, remember to kind of go back to your first point, Pete, about the first and order second order disagreements. The second order disagreement is so completely. That gap is so completely unbridgeable because as you said, they don't share a foundation. We don't share a lexicon, even with these people. We literally don't even speak the same language. Now, when I say that, I don't mean. We don't mean. We may not speak English, although the argument could be made, we don't actually both speak English. But what I'm saying is our glossary, our lexicon, our vulgar Argo, if you will, is just completely different. We don't, we don't even Understand the words that the other is using. So how can you have, how can you come into an agreement if you don't even know what any of the words mean that the other person is saying? It's just impossible. And when you say we have to break away, then I agree with you completely. Because you know what follows a second order disagreement. You know what follows a second disorder disagreement on its very heels. And that's physical violence. Because what, what was it? Louis xiv, I think. What did he have written on his cannons? The last argument of kings? It's. That's what's going to happen now. That's why that's the rivers of blood speech that D has referenced many times. When you get to this point, violence is sure to follow. I'm not sitting here advocating violence necessarily, but I am saying that's an inevitability and I've said it on Twitter and I, and I stand by it. It. If we can't share the foundation, as you mentioned, Pete, if we can't share a lexicon, then there's no way around it. That's just simply what's going to happen. Go ahead, D. If you want to continue.

[B]

I'm interested in what Jose and Pete have to say.

[A]

I want to go back to a point that D raised with respect to the old right and I want to tie it in with Rod Dreher, because I remember quite vividly right when I was getting into politics, that The American Conservative around 07 was one of the blogs that I was frequenting a lot. And it is not a coincidence that like in 2008, 2009, when Rod Dreger was starting to blog at the American Conservative, that the American Conservative just started to gradually go to like they used to feature people from like Steve sailor, even Ron uns and Roger McGrath that were talking a lot of like non PC stuff and then eventually publisher.

[B]

And it was founded by Tacky and Pat Buchanan.

[A]

Yep, exactly. And the, and that was like one of like the last vestiges of like the old right when it came to like a public, a respectable publication that had a decent readership and was able to get like some degree of mainstream dissemination. But when he arrived that was in my opinion, looking back, like a turning point where the American conservative just got progressive progressively more and more just cucked and mainstream and so called respectable. And from that point forward I just stopped like reading what I will coming

[C]

back to St. George and Baton Rouge. Separation is important. Okay. Basically what these people are doing is they are escaping violence, they're escaping the Worst everybody's nightmare, that you live in a place where you don't know whether a bullet's going to fly through the window at night or in the day or in the morning into a crib. This is what they're escaping. But really, it's not enough. When you make this kind of escape, then you have to fortify. Then you have to go. So you have to basically go on the offensive, and you have to say, we've escaped. There's people that just can't come here. You know, my wife and I have talked all the time because, you know, we live in Alabama. There's a lot of black people here. You know, none of my neighbors. I don't really have neighbors, but nobody in my general. There's no black people in my general vicinity. You have to drive for miles. And my wife asked me one day, she's like, well, we know a lot of really nice black people here. You wouldn't mind living next door to them, right? And I'm like, yeah, here's the problem. What happens when their nephew Pookie comes over to visit?

[B]

I was going to say, everyone got a cousin Pookie.

[C]

Yeah. What happens when their grandson comes over to visit? If St. George doesn't go on the offensive now and decides to. To fortify and decides to say, you know, hey, maybe this is some gigantic HOA now, and certain people can't come in. You've already seen. As soon as this happened, they were like, these people are racist. They started comparing them to the Klan. They start. They started invoking all of these things. They're going to send people in there. They will. These people are. Are malicious. They're animals, okay? And I'm not. I'm not even talking about the people they'll send in there. I'm talking about the organizers that'll do this. And we know who I'm talking about.

[D]

Well, speaking to that, I personally lived that when I was growing up in New Jersey. I was. My dad was born and raised in Camden. And then. I'm sure you have an idea of what Camden is like, especially now. Well, when I was growing up there, I went to a Catholic school in the area, and all of my friends around. I want to say, six, seventh grade. All of my friends were moving away now that they. They were getting out of the school and they were moving away. I was in the very center of what we now call white flight. And what I. Another facet I can tell you, I cosign everything you say, Pete, this isn't to disagree with you, this is to, yes. And you and that is to say, I lived it. I was there. So not only do you, yes, you do need to fortify, but one of the other reasons you need to fortify is if you don't, you're only going to keep running because all those people moved. And then 20, 25 years later, they had to move again because again, that all you're doing is ceding ground. I don't mean S, E, E, D, I mean seeding, ced, and, and that's, that's what ends up happening. If you don't fortify, then you just have to move out of that suburb and then the next suburb and the next. Dee's talked about the whole reason, the creation, the creation of the suburbs, but that's one of the reasons you're correct, is that you have to fortify it because you're just going to continually, first, you're going to continually lose ground. And one last thing I want to say, but one more thing I'm going to say on the point is you bring up the HOAs. The HOAs. It's like that's, it's basically the only way you can get around. Shelley V. Kramer this is a discussion D and I've had for a long time. It's basically the modern moat. It's, it's the modern moat of we won't let you in our town because we give standards that these people can't maintain. That's how they get around. SHELLY V. Kramer they don't say, oh, you're not allowed in here because you're the wrong religion and you're the wrong skin tone. They put these standards that a lot of these people just simply can't or won't maintain, and that's how they keep them out. And again, that's, that's why they get called racist, because they hold these people to a standard. But that's, that's, that's exactly how they get around. SHELBY Kramer and the last point I'll raise on this, when we talked about the Civil Rights act and how they, you know, a lot of these people are fleeing. It's the fallout from it. That's one thing I've said for years is what's the first thing? And I'll use this as an example, although there are many what's the first thing black athletes do when they make it big, when they get signed to the Chicago Bulls, you know, or, or major football team? What's the first thing they do?

[B]

Find a white girl or move, move to a White neighborhood.

[D]

That's exactly what they do. They move to a white neighborhood. That's the first thing they do. So it's the ultimate irony that the first thing the beneficiaries do, the beneficiaries of the civil rights movement do is escape the results of the civil rights movement. That's what cracks me up about it. And I know I keep saying that I have one more point, but I just keep thinking of these things. I don't know if any of you saw this. A little while ago, maybe a month or two ago, there was a video going around. I know deep. We had talked about this, of a black community bemoaning the fact that illegal immigrants were flooding their town. Did you remember us discussing this particular.

[B]

I remember, yeah.

[D]

And you. And there was one elderly black woman on it that was saying, oh, we have to. We have to refuse to sell our houses to these people because they're ruining our neighborhood. We have to band together and refuse to sell our houses to people. These people. And I mean, I just couldn't. I couldn't hit forward to D fast enough. I couldn't hit forward to D fast.

[B]

Yeah, that's one of those ironies that's so painful, it's hilarious. I think the first thing that I ever, you know, that's been years, and I've been off Twitter for a long time. But the first thing that really made the rounds that I ever said is what is moving one exit down the highway doesn't solve your political problems.

[C]

And.

[B]

And that's basically what this has done. And I will bring up something else and tie this in. So like Charles just said, It's 20, 25 years later, and you've turned a bunch of farmland that could be growing food and promoting nationalism and autarky and other good things, providing local jobs. And the chief economic activity of the state of Georgia for the last 35 years or 40 years or 50 years, has been running away from Atlanta. The suburbs of Atlanta touch four states now. There are people who commute from eastern Tennessee, western South Carolina and North Alabama into Atlanta every day. Am I wrong, Pete?

[C]

Oh, yeah. Well, what's. Even Atlanta's really odd, too, because so much gentrification is happening. Happened inside Atlanta that in 2009, in 2008, when Katrina happened, basically we got overrun with people who had moved from there. And I was living outside of Atlanta, So probably like 15 miles outside of 285, we actually moved into Atlanta to get away from them. We actually had to move into the city to get away from them. And there's a reason why Cobb county forever and ever and ever didn't want Marta coming there. They didn't want to train.

[B]

For those of you who didn't listen to it, I strongly recommend you both pick up the book Black Mecca down by Paul Kersey from NL Appeal Publishing and listen to Pete's conversation with Paul Kersey. Paul Kersey has not only been a hero for our thing for, for a long time, but Black Mecca down is, is just a total indictment of, of what we're talking about. And he's been writing for years and years. So I strongly endorse. I think it was on your show, Pete, where you talked to Paul. But it was really, really good conversation. But a couple days ago while we were setting things up, I was at work and I happened to talk to someone who is very, very senior in aviation. Outside a little airport like gravel strip type place. I was making some deliveries and ended up talking to this guy for 15, 20 minutes. This guy used to be a senior engineer at Boeing and then decided he hated it because of all the DEI stuff. Do you realize that they are letting people into the left seat, the captain's chair on commercial aircraft with 500 hours flying time at major US airlines?

[C]

Now that's insane. I mean, what is it? You, what is it? 1:25 to get your license or how much is it? I don't remember. I don't know.

[B]

I haven't kept up on the, on the. But, but Right. Major US Airlines in order to diversify the cockpit. Right. Or add more women and. Right. Your congressman. This is why we were talking is the Commerce Committee is considering not extending the ability for pilots, like mandatory retirement for pilots at 65 and not moving it up to 67 as the pilots unions want because frankly, there's a lot of 64 year old guys who are. You know, being 64 now is not like being 64 in 1970. Right, right. So a lot of these guys could continue to fly until they're 67 or even 70, but there's just not. And, and this guy was a boomer, so I, I couldn't get him to understand that like the, the abilities and talents necessary to be a pilot. Hey, it is Ryan Seacrest here. If you love great games and a little extra excitement to your day, I got something fun for you. Chumba Casino and I have teamed up to create an exclusive online social casino game. It's called Ryan Seacrest 10K Ways. It's fun and free to play just like all your favorites. From Chumba Casino. And Every spin brings 10,000 ways to keep the good times going Check it out and play for free today at Chumba Casino. Day purchase necessary VGW Group void. We're prohibited by law. CTs and Cs 21 plus sponsored by Chumba Casino. Good reflexes. Good eyesight. High spatial awareness. High mathematical ability. Ability to stay calm. Right. Like all of these things that are required to be a commercial airline pilot are not evenly distributed across the population.

[C]

So here's. Here's what it is. Private Pilot license is 40 hours. Commercial pilot license is 250. 250 hours. Airline transport pilot certificate is 1500. And you're saying they're gonna. The transport pilot would be knocked down to 500.

[B]

Yeah. And this could be completely wrong.

[D]

And I have no idea.

[B]

But this guy is a senior guy and I have no reason to admit that.

[D]

No reason to admit.

[B]

Think this guy was. Was BSing me.

[C]

But he. I think one of. I have a buddy who works for FedEx, and he's a pilot for FedEx. And I think the problem that we have is it's very easy to blame a lot of this on dei and. And I do blame a lot of it on dei, but there's also the fact that these planes fly themselves. They take off and land by themselves. The pilot is only there in the case of a very commercial plane in case something goes wrong. But here's the thing. If something goes wrong, you want the best person there. I remember growing up, my dad would tell me about how most commercial Delta only wanted people who were fighter pilots or who flew in the military because they've flown under stress, they've landed on ships, you know, they've landed on a carrier. And. Yeah. I mean, now it's like, you don't know.

[B]

You don't know. United were two of the airlines you mentioned that were. That were lowering standards.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. I. I want my, my pilot to be between 40 and 60, have some gray in his hair, look like the aviators have been welded on his face. And I want him to, you know, like, have either gone to Annapolis or, you know, Colorado Springs and, and. And been a pilot, you know, for the Navy, the Marine Corps or the Air Force or, or like a bush pilot or something. And I. I bring this up only because this particular guy knew I was just in general interested in aviation and infrastructure generally.

[C]

And we were.

[B]

I talked to him about some other, you know, with all the stuff that's happened at Boeing.

[C]

Right.

[B]

We're fundamentally the problem.

[D]

Suicide, too.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

[B]

I love Hillary Clinton. I love Bill Clinton. I, I think nothing but the goodest things about both of them. And, and right. You know, I'm not suicidal.

[C]

Anyway.

[B]

What a whole bunch of people, right? The people who go through high school in North Baton Rouge and graduate being semi literate at best,

[C]

right.

[B]

They have no idea what it's like to have to machine a jet engine to tens of thousands of an inch moving at thousands of RPMs, where if even the slightest thing is bit off, the whole thing explodes. And there's millions of things like that, and literally millions all across our society. Chemical processes, the way the roads work, the way electricity works. Like, like, yeah. And as Pete said, you know, you have to fortify. Okay. You're, you're going to certain places are going to be non viable, right. When one out of ten flights to Hawaii ends up in the Pacific or even 1 out of 20 are people going to go to Hawaii anymore? Well, I mean, no one's going to go to Hawaii. If there's a 1 in 25 chance your pilot is named Shaniqua and has 5 inch long nails and doesn't know how to fly a plane, like, you're just not going to go because it's only going to take one or two.

[D]

It's, that's happening already. Not to cut you off, that's happening already. Just talk to people. You'll find more and more saying, I don't really like flying. I don't, I don't really feel safe flying anymore. And I don't know if it's a conscious, conscious decision on these people's parts. As far as when I say conscious, I mean the sense of, I guess I should say informed rather than conscious. I don't know if it's a fully informed opinion on these people's parts or not, but I'm encountering that more and more and more with increasing frequency. I'm encountering people saying I just don't want to fly. And to step back very briefly to your point, Pete, earlier, about planes fly themselves. Now I can tell you personally that when I was working for immigration, when I was a badge and gun officer, one of the pilots I used to meet regularly told me that those exact words, this is 25 years ago, maybe even 26, that he said, oh, these things fly themselves now, these things fly. I'm only there in case of a problem. But in a way, to me that that justifies even further why you want the best qualified people like the ones you were saying d about the whole you want the aviators basically welded to their face, guys that have done all that, because that's what. What they are there for. They, you're right, they aren't there to fly the plane. The flame plane flies itself. They're there for when it all goes wrong. And that's not what we're staffing for. We're staffing for the plane flies itself, not staffing for the plane flies itself. But you're there. That's not your job. Your job is to deal with it in crisis. And we're not hiring people to deal with it in crisis. In fact, I would, I would posit that we're probably hiring the worst people to deal with a crisis possible, which is women. And it's like, those are the people you absolutely do not want in a crisis. Because the first thing they're gonna do is look to the person next to them and go, get me out of this. Because that's what they do. That's just what they do. Not to go too far down to tangent, but I still remember, God, this has got to be 10 years ago now. A gal I was involved with a long time ago texted me and she said, you know, I'm watching a horror movie and I'm always wondering, why do. Why do women just wander off and get murdered in these films? Like, why does this always happen? But why does it always still feel real to me? Why am I always still scared for? Why does it always feel like something I do? And I said, well, it's easy because over the long course of human history, and I don't mean since 1970, 60, I mean the long course of human history when women did dumb like that, they would either get killed or a man would come and save them. Neither outcome means they learned a lesson.

[B]

So, yeah, like, they have such poor. They'll choose a bear over a random dude.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Right? Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, okay, I live in the woods in the Pacific Northwest and I used to work in Canada in the Mackenzie River Delta. So I have seen all three North American bears in the wild. They're terrifying. They're scary. A grizzly is the size of a car, has paws like dinner plates, claws like steak knives. It smells like death from 20 paces. Like death and musk. It's got teeth, like 5 inch teeth. It's strong enough to like literally rip your head off. Oh, by the way, it can also outrun a horse and can smell your sandwich from like two miles away. And I'm perfectly fine with a world where women just have no idea what bears are actually like, that's fine. That's actually a good world. But if you don't have what, any idea of what a bear is like, you shouldn't be making any decisions about bears and.

[D]

Yes, exactly. Right.

[B]

This is the sort of world we live in. Right. And you know, why don't you, for

[C]

people who aren't as online as we are, why don't you. It should explain what you're talking about.

[B]

Okay, so apparently I'm not on Twitter, but. But I'm on enough telegram channels that talk about Twitter or had Twitter that like this thing went around Twitter of, you know, some woman asked, like, would you rather, if you were just in the woods by yourself, would you rather run into a random man or a bear? And a bunch of these women chose bears and a bunch of guys were like, what is wrong with you? And they're like, you know, they were doing the whole, like, until you understand, like, why we're afraid of men and don't, like. And then like, don't judge us for, like, understanding the bear because we're like, doing risk. Like, first of all, race is the guy. Second.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Right, right.

[C]

And.

[B]

And you know, there's like, I saw some woman on Tick Tock, like, basically just making fun of her husband because he was like, well, what kind of bear is it? And you know, you know, is this like, like some random little girl? Like, I would try to help her and try to get her unlocked and like, like, do, you know, do you have a phone? What's your daddy's cell phone number? Like, all, you know, like, like basic good man, dad stuff. And this woman was like, trying to, like, basically mock her husband for, you know, tick Tock points. But. Right. If you don't understand the consequences of what being next to a bear that wants you to die is, you should make decision about bears. If you don't understand just how difficult it is to manufacture an airplane engine or build a Runway or fly a plane, you shouldn't make any decisions about planes. And this is. Right. So to Pete's point earlier about defense, the problem with conservatives is they'll admit that, like, oh, well, we can't fly planes like this. We have to have people who know what they're doing. They have to have, you know, thousands of hours. They have to know what, you know, they have to be, you know, they have to have, you know, to use Tom Wolf's phrase, the right stuff. Right. And not, not everyone can do that. In fact, fact, very few people could do that.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

And so we need those people who are capable of doing that in those spots. Right. You know, it came out relatively recently that. That someone at Boeing, I can't remember which CEO, but about 10, 15 years ago, fired all the, quote, phenomenally talented, unquote, who only cared about making planes, the best planes in the world. And the guy I was talking to worked at Boeing when there were those phenomenally talented assholes. And what would happen in those days is there'd be a guy who, you know, blue collar guy who maybe drank too much on the weekends, wasn't exactly the sort of guy you could. Could bring to a cocktail party, but he played the. He worked the drill press like a Stradivarius. And he was like, the world's best drill press operator. And he could just, like, hear the metal and, like, he understood it, right? And that guy, by virtue of his skill and talent and hard work, could walk up to a junior engineer with plans and say, this is wrong, and I don't care about your degree or this or that.

[D]

This is.

[B]

This is wrong and you need to fix it. And the senior engineers and senior management knew that. That guy call him Larry, right, the shop foreman and whatever, like, had the experience and that if he was upstairs, you know, with his dirty coveralls and, you know, greasy fingers and, you know, if he was upstairs, there was a major problem, and Larry wasn't the. Larry wasn't the problem. Whatever caused Larry to come upstairs was the problem.

[C]

And

[B]

women. Oh, why is Larry upsetting the status hierarchy? Doesn't he know he's a pleb? We're supposed to stay downstairs. Yeah, right.

[C]

Well, accident.

[B]

Well, I went to college. What's this white boy doing trying to tell me what to do? Well, maybe Larry the rivet guy is a genius at rivets. And maybe you don't know what you're talking about because you just got out of college and you haven't got the, you know, the 10 years of experience that are required to really know what's going on. Maybe you haven't had a beers with Larry just to ask him, like, what should I learn as a junior engineer? Maybe the guys in management as, you know, as opposed to chasing a 1% higher profit when they used to be engineers, used to say, you know what? It's okay. We got. We got to stay profitable, but we got to make sure that we retain the guys that can actually do the work. You know, rather than saving a bunch of money, we're going to plow some of those profits into VO Tech programs. So that we have the guys who can bend the sheet metal, do the rivets work the machines and, and across all domains of our society. You see this, and I only bring this up because this is of an

[C]

interest of mine and it's relevant at the moment.

[B]

Conservatives will identify the problem, but they fail to fortify and they fail to say, you know what, actually white supremacist airlines would just function better because we're not wasting any time trying to find the one black person in 10,000 who's actually going to be worth it. We're just going to say we get 200 slots, find us, find us the 200 best white guys. And there might be one or two black guys that, that you know, unjustly get sorted out, but they'll be fine, intelligent, well socialized, Brax, to use a, to use John Derbyshire's phrase, are the most high demand commodity in America. A guy who's capable of being an airline pilot is capable of a whole lot of other stuff. He can do something else. And you know, women and blacks and other people, they don't see, you know, going into the sim on weekends, they don't see all the stress. They just see like, cool uniform, lots of money, get to travel. I want that job, you know, I want to be a doctor and a lawyer and.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

You need, like the point of this program is point of our thing. The point of Old Glory Club is to put the ability to actually defend yourselves, not just point out the problems, but actually defend yourselves and defend our civilization in terms that people can understand. Now I'm bad at some of that stuff because frankly I just want to swear and use slurs a lot. I get mad but like old Garglub does this better than anybody. And Pete does a really fantastic job of this and Jose does a really fantastic job of this of like explaining Internet terms of. The average American can understand why colorblind meritocracy and classical liberalism aren't sufficient until, until you can say, look, I don't, you know, this, this one happy black kid who really cares about his education in, in North Baton Rouge who wants to come down to St. George for his schooling because he actually wants to learn. I can't make exceptions. Sorry. This is a whites only school district because once we make one exception, there's going to be a bunch of others. And conservatives are incapable of understanding that there's always going to be an exception. And you have to be sovereign. You have to be the guy that decides the exceptions. And I don't think it until Our ordinary people understand this. They're not going to make any progress. So you're going to see planes fall out of the sky, you're going to see people get shot at schools, you're going to see old people get beat up in public. You're going to see all kinds of stuff, riots on campuses because people are incapable of being honest about the real issues and affirmatively defending their right to exist and the right to a functioning society.

[C]

Well Jose, you got anything to add to that? Because I think, I think we hit this, hit this pretty hard and want to move on to the next topic because it's going to be a doozy. So you have anything more to add to that Jose?

[A]

Well, I, I think this goes back to something I've been saying, how if you don't understand the Shelley vs. Kramer and the subsequent civil rights revolution, you're just not going to get politics like in this multiracial open air prison. And even when you see these victories with like St. George happen, the modern day conservative movement is gonna just follow up on them with like some like the stupidest causes, like say school choice for example. And it is essentially make these areas try to like contaminate these areas through diversity and bringing in all these other people. And it's just like a very, very predictable cycle. And, and the way we break this cycle is quite simple. It's just by going straight to the root point out why the civil rights revolution upended this talk about Shelley versus Craver, which is something that you will not hear. Not even like the, some of these so called based MAGA influencers and whatnot talk about. So I think it's like very important to keep stressing this point because as a old political mentor once said, repetition is the key to learning.

[D]

Just one real quick point, then we'll move on to next just very quick, regarding D point about these guys that, what was the phrase you used D from the article that these, that just built better planes, that sort of thing. Remember a lot of these guys get into that trip that machining and stuff. And I know this personally because I have friends in those industries. Remember a lot of these guys get into it because they aren't good with people. They're not interested in being good with people. They like machines, they like that they can get metal to bend. They like that there are rules. And I hate to use this term because I think it's overused and I think it's, I don't think it's the best way to say things, but it'll do for now, because we do want to move on. You know, they have a very autistic view of things. They know they like rules. They like that these things work. They like that there are physical laws. And that's why they come across as assholes to a lot of people. But remember that these two things are inextricably linked. The ability to machine these things to within such a low tolerance, these, these, These abilities to. To do these things, these complicated processes, is because they don't want to deal with people. People they're not interested in dealing with people. That's not where their skill set lies, and it's not a skill set they care to even develop. So remember, those two points are inextricably linked. And when you get rid of the thing you don't want, it's a. It's a very, very dangerous proposition because you may get rid of the things you do.

[C]

All right. Well, Ze brought up the topic of a debate that happened recently, and it was on, I think it was hosted by Zero Hedge, and it was a debate about Israel, Iran, Palestine. That was on one side was Chenk Uygur and Dave Smith, and on the other side was Dennis Prager and Batya Unger Sargon. And, yeah, I guess we thought we would discuss the meat of the debate, the topic of the debate and what we heard in the debate. So who wants to go first?

[B]

I'll just be very brief because I've talked plenty enough. But I want to bring up two or three points real quick. There are four non Americans talking about. And I like Dave Smith, I subscribe to his podcast, but he's not an American. He's Jewish. Right? And Cenk Uyghur, whatever his name is, he's a Turk. Bacha Angar Sargon. There's very little information about her on the Internet, so that gives me some bad vibes. But she's supposedly born in Gaza to Palestinian and Indian parents, so she's two different flavors of non American. And Dennis Pring is Jewish. Why are these people telling me what I have to do in my country? That's my first, first point. And the second thing is, I think Pete and I talked about this on a separate program, but the sheer inability of Dennis Prager to see the others point you know, constantly. Oh, if the, if the Palestinians laid down their arms, they'd be. There'd be peace immediately. You know, the Jews just want peace. Jews just want peace. Jews just want peach. I don't, I don't think Dennis Prager's lying. I think he's literally incapable of seeing the other side. Like he's not capable of understanding that these people have been imprisoned, that their families have been destroyed, that they've been, you know, pushed out of their homes and they're fighting back. And that's perfectly legitimate. I, I literally don't think Dennis Cape is, is capable of enough empathy to understand these people's point. And again, that's a second order disagreement. There's no way to like live with this. And so why is this the terms of the debate for non Americans talking about what my country needs to do and they're literally incapable of, of first order disagreement on this issue. It's all second order disagreements. What the hell?

[C]

Well, let me push back a little bit here because that's what we're here for. The argument could be made that neither Jose nor I are Americans, neither side of my family had any part in the founding. I can find very little information about my one side of the family I know was here during the Civil War, whether they fought, which side they would have fought on. So yeah, how come Jose and I would be considered Americans but like someone like Dave Smith who we think is, we think is a good person, why he wouldn't.

[B]

You're both white Christians.

[A]

I'm part white.

[C]

So do we do the. What I say about myself is that I'm not a heritage American. I'm an American citizen basically because that's how my family was in here at the founding or I forget how somebody, I heard somebody describe heritage American the other day, but it wasn't.

[B]

Well if your family was here in the Civil War, then you've got a pretty good claim to being an American.

[A]

What I think is more telling that D mentions here is that in these type of debates there's just nobody like, like no white person that's allowed to get into these debates have any input whatsoever. Like whether it's a Catholic ethnic, much less like founding stock American. It is absolutely bizarre. And like there's going to be also like if you want to get like a nuanced perspective, you need people like, honestly like people from like TRS to be on there. But no, they're not going to let that happen. Like the so called like anti Israel real position is going to be this kosher approved, pro Palestinian, like Jew or something like that. Whether it's like Dave Smith to like Norman Finkel son, you're not going to get like an actual nuance perspective from an anti Israeli white that's coming from like TRS Occidental observer or that type of network.

[C]

And I'll give you the. I'll give you one example from the debate that I thought was. Was telling to me that Dave Norshank jumped on. Which I would have jumped on. Any one of us would have jumped on. Dave brought up the dire Hassan massacre, and immediately Prager said, that was in 1948. Now, let me ask you, any one of you, if he would have said, basically, why are you bringing up old shit it. What would you guys have responded?

[B]

Auschwitz was in 1943, dude. Why are you so butthurt about it?

[D]

Yep, yep, exactly. What if it knocked? Was 19, what, 1937, 1938, something like that. Okay, why. Why are we still talking about that if we're. If we're going to put a time, an expiration date on these things?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Statue of living.

[D]

Yeah, man. Yeah, let's. Let's do it all the way.

[C]

Yeah. When you. When you mentioned the King David Hotel bombing, well, I mean, there was obviously that. There's a statute of limitations on that. And it was war. That's another thing that Prager said. Prager's like, well, Dahir Hassan, that was war. Oh, really? Do you really want to go with that? Is that the argument you want to make, Dennis? Right.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, I just found the whole thing so incredible, incredibly frustrating. I'll be honest with you. I'm going to have a hard time discussing it because it just. It eventually just came down to just screeching as far as I'm concerned. I think I messaged you guys privately on Telegram saying that at like 53 minutes in, I was just already at my limit. It just was just. It just devolved even further into just constantly referring to the Nazis. The Nazis. It's the Nazis. Nazis. And I mean, I think the real reason I want to kind of step to one of your points, Jose. I think the real reason they don't bring in or other guys like, more like us. And as Dee said, more heritage American types, or as you said, Pete, just American citizens whose families have been here at least since prior to 1965. Excuse me, I. The thing that drives me crazy, the reason they don't want to bring people like us in is the closest they had to that on the panel was Dave Smith. That's the closest they had to that. And the reason I say he's the closest is he's the only one out of all of them that just said, hey, yeah, you can have your little war, but don't take my tax money. But even he wouldn't cross the line and say things like, you know what? America just needs to be completely isolationist. I don't think there's a guy in this panel. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this will be our first order disagreement for today. But like I tell myself, my buddy in Canada, I am a lawn sheep American. There's a famous photo out there on the, in photography books in, on the Internet of sheep grazing on the White House lawn. I think it was taken like 1898 or not, maybe even as late as 1901. It's like, that's the kind of American I am. I want sheep grazing on my White House lawn. I want to be able to shake the hand of the President when I meet him on a ship, because that's another thing that happened in American history. Like, I don't want to involve myself with the, with any of the rest of the world if I don't have to. I'll be nice to the Canadians because they're literally my next door neighbor. But even they have to stay on their side of the fence. And I'll say the same to the Mexicans. God blessed us with, with a tremendous amount of natural resources. Every year we find more and more and more. We don't need the rest the of of the world. You know what? So their problems are not my problems. The first thing I thought of with this debate and Jose, again, I'll step to a point. You make another reason they don't bring guys like us on that program. And I'll speak for myself in this. I won't speak for all of you gentlemen, but I suspect there's at least one of you that probably feels the same is because one of the first things we're going to say is, I don't give a shit. Why are we even having this discussion? This is your problem. You guys want to kill each other, Bomb each other into oblivion, Knock yourselves out. I've got a ton of problems at home that I need to worry about. And I couldn't care less about any of what you people have been doing. You people have been killing each other forever. And I have no interest in bringing your feuds into my life, let alone on my shores. I think that's another big reason they don't let guys like us in the program.

[B]

Yeah, like, you know, Prager, you've got millions of dollars. Equip your own company. Take, take the millions of dollars you've built from American Christians. And there can be, you know, the, you know, the dentist company of the, you know, third Brigade of the. You know, is IDF that, that you paid for their gear, you paid for their training, you paid for all that stuff. Why is my tax money going to it? First and second, as long as you're taking my tax money. Hey guys, it's Ryan. I want to tell you about my new pastime, Chumba Casino. Chumba Casino has been around for over a decade delivering the most fun you can have online play social casino style games for free, anytime, anywhere. So sign [e-mail] no purchase necessary. BGW Report we're prohibited by law. SEA Terms and Conditions 21/ as long as your people are permitted to live in my country and bilk it for millions of dollars every year.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Bacha Angkar Sargo, who I'm, I personally am convinced is some kind of fat asset. Oh, same here.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, but she's worth $3 million. She's the, you know, like she's the editorial head of Newsweek. Okay, that used to mean something. Now probably Pete gets more readers than the Newsweek does. I mean, like, I guarantee you, between the four of us, we have more readers than Newsweek.

[D]

But wouldn't surprise to me.

[A]

Oh yeah, probably bought like to be honest, like from like an Indian, like

[B]

a good chunk of it. I would, I would imagine. But. But regardless, right, she's worth $3 million. Maybe that's true, maybe that's not. She's not any sharper a thinker than I am or any of the other guys on this panel. I'm frankly the dumbest guy here. Why is she worth $3 million

[C]

that

[B]

was stolen from Americans? Because she will lie, that's why.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Goes back to the point I raised earlier in today's conversation. Because she's willing to take the ticket and we're not.

[B]

And you know, if you're going to take my money, if you're going to get rich off of my country, if

[D]

you're going to constantly involve us in

[B]

this other stuff, then you have to treat the Christians in Palestine decent. But do they? No. But why do you think they lost their mind over that one Lutheran pastor that Tucker Carlson interviewed who told a smidgen of the truth? You could ask the Oriental Orthodox and the Eastern Orthodox and the Roman Catholic, you know.

[C]

Right.

[B]

How many Maronite Christians in communion with Rome have been bombed by Israelis in Lebanon over the last 30 years? Thousands. Tens of thousands. I don't know, but it's a lot.

[A]

Why,

[B]

if it is going to be my business, why can't I impose any terms at all on this discussion, just

[C]

to be in the discussion. That's the thing. They don't want people like us in the discussion because basically we know more than them. I mean, I know more about the last 2,000 years of Jewish history than anybody on that panel, probably all four of them combined. I know their history. I know what they've done. I know. Because why? Because I consider them to be an adversary. And I want to know my adversary. Okay.

[D]

To speak to you, Pete, not to cut you off.

[C]

I read something about Jewish history every single day because I want to know who they are. I want to know. I want to figure it out.

[D]

To speak to your point, Pete. And I, I, I didn't know that. That you were that informed on. I mean, you've always struck me as extremely informed, but I didn't realize you were that informed. And kudos to you. But the thing that really, really makes me think now, especially that you say that Prager says at one point that anti Semitism is unique in that it's exterminationist. Nobody else wants once their opponent dead. Like, they want Jews dead dead. Everybody wants them dead. Ever. It's unique. Everybody wants us exterminated. And the thing.

[C]

You know what? You know what? No one on that panel said why? Do you know what? No one on that panel. No one on that panel asked why.

[D]

Why? Exactly. That was honestly my first question. And I say this. There's somebody that would. That genuinely rankles at being called an anti Semite. It's like, well, hold on a second. Let's, let's. I'm one of. Probably one of the. I might be the only guy on this panel channel that will kind of.

[C]

No, it bother. It bothers me too. Okay? But it bothers me.

[D]

I'm with you, Pete. Like, that was literally my first question. It's like if, if, if you, if this, if the, if the animosity against these people is so vitriolic, and I'll even use their word, so vitriolic that it is exterminationist. Like, why does it never occur to them to say, hey, why does everybody want me fucking dead? Like, if all you guys on this panel said, charles, we fucking hate you so much, if we get your address, we will fucking put a bullet in your face. It's like, you don't think. The first thing I would think to myself is, what on earth did I do? Shit, if D stopped talking to me for a month, I'd be like, Like, d, did I. Did I insult your wife? Did I say something to your kid? Like, what happened, Pete, we don't. We barely know one another. Why.

[A]

We don't.

[D]

We don't even know each other outside the context of podcast. But if you stopped responding to any of my telegram messages, not that there are many, I can promise you on a stack of Bibles, I would be on. On the phone with D, like, hey, man, did I. Did I go cross the line with Pete, what's going on? Let alone if you said, hey, Jose, if I meet Charles, I'm gonna stab him in the throat like. Like, I just can't even fathom. These people don't ask why.

[B]

Well, not only do they not ask why, but. But when. And Prager was lying. Big surprise, because there is genocidal hate hatred that is in the world right now. Not against Jews, against white people. They say, we are going to wipe you out and destroy your genetics forever. If I said the same things about Jews that Barbara learns Specter said about Swedes, I would go to jail under this new law that the house just passed.

[D]

Great point.

[B]

So. And who is it that's doing this? Alejandro Mayorkas, the highest board member who's now the secretary. You're like the Jewish Attorney General and the Jewish Treasury Secretary and the Jewish Secretary of State and the Jewish Homeland Security secretary say, the border is fine. We have enough money. We could fight multiple wars. And diplomacy is working, right? This is. This is nonsense. I'm an American. I have nowhere else to go. What about my kids? What about my future?

[C]

That's the point. That's. That's one of the points I wanted to bring up today, was as they. As you see people seeking to destroy this country, you see how many. And you notice how hard they're trying. They're going on, trying to blame the borders, the open borders on. On the Catholics, right? It's like, oh, look at this Catholic charity. Oh, look at this. Just ignoring their own words. Ignoring their own words. Okay, if this country's destroyed, where the fuck do I go? They get to go back to that piece of shit, fucking that piece of shit in the Middle East. Where the fuck do I go?

[B]

Yeah, whatever, Mike.

[D]

That's a great point, fellas. And he. That's the other thing Prager keeps saying. Oh, it's only the size of New Jersey. It's only the size of New Jersey. But to riff off your point, great, at least you've got New Jersey. What do we have? There's nothing. I don't even have nothing. That's it.

[B]

You were. You were just. Yeah, you know what the nakba happened to white New Jerseyans in 1967. They were destroyed. By who? We've talked about it. Race war in high school. Who was it behind? Shelly V. Kramer. Who was it behind? Brown B Board. Who wasn't behind all the riots. Who wasn't behind all this stuff? So it's, it's one thing you know if the Jews and one of the guys on the old Glory Club lives. One of the recent or Glory Club livestreams made this point and it's is worth repeating over and over and over again. You know everyone who's listened to this probably knows that the so called Holocaust is if not greatly exaggerated, almost completely fake. There were no gas chambers. German Rudolph, you know you could look into all that stuff. Let's just take them at face value for just a second. If people from across the ocean

[A]

poured

[B]

everything they had into a war that killed millions of people.

[D]

People.

[B]

If they spent every penny they had building trucks and planes and ships and bullets and guns and mass conscripted all their young men and sent them off to war and gave an entire generation PTSD and alcoholism to save my people. And I was a dick about it. I was ungrateful.

[A]

You know

[B]

if the Jews weren't the scum of the earth that they are, they should have taken the control of financial system and media system and they said Every Corn Fred, 6 foot 2, blonde haired, Iowa farm boy that saved our lives. We want them to have 27 kids. We want them to have 37,000 grandchildren. We want to them want them here to cover the earth.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

These people saved us.

[D]

Yep. That's what my buddy in Canada said that that phrase.

[B]

And what did they do? What did they do?

[C]

Zero gratitude.

[B]

Yeah. No gratitude at all. So wait a second, you're taking my money, you got no gratitude. You're behind all of us, literally behind all the stuff that's wrong in our society. Proud of it. Proud of the fact that yo like the, the nice Jewish couple behind most gay porn in America. Like that's an article I've seen. Right? Like you're proud of the, of the you know, destruction of free speech for, for political speech. But you know, allowance of, of of the most disgusting forms of pornography. Right. That's okay. I can't use my real name on the Internet. Right?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Pete and I were having a private discussion elsewhere is like look, if free speech was real we'd both be millionaires. That's not me over evaluating my abilities. That's looking at the people who are millionaires. Millionaires under the controlled Environment and going, you know, if I was allowed to compete with these people, I'd be a millionaire because I'm better than they are. And it's not because I'm great. It's because they're terrible.

[D]

Agree? Yep.

[C]

Look, somebody's just now, now somebody's listening who's just going to say, we're jealous. We're jealous of these people who are a millionaire. That's what it always is. Yeah.

[A]

We have like lower IQ and stuff like that.

[C]

Yeah. Have you ever heard this one? They say, oh, oh, when you talk about the Jews like that, that's just like when the, when the left talks about white people and say there's white privilege. I'm like, you realize when they're. The only mistake they're making is that it's not white people, it's Jews that they should be talking about. Yeah, okay. It's not, it's not white privilege. It's Jewish privilege. All right.

[A]

It's structural Jewish supremacy. Like structural Jewish parasitism. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like Ron. Uns talked about it like, like they get him to, you know, massively at higher rates than at elite universities than. Than we. Than. Did white people do.

[D]

The magic of nepotism, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Iq. Yeah. Those IQ arguments.

[D]

That's it. That's all it is.

[C]

Exactly.

[D]

It's like the rit. It's the same thing as the rich get richer. It's. It only. It's. It's not necessarily money at this point. If I, if I get my guy. Let, let, let's. This is, It's. I'll just keep this very simple, very quick. Let, Let you gentlemen continue. It's like, okay, first off, if I get my guy.

[C]

Let's.

[D]

We'll pick a police department, local police department, because this is more or less my area of expertise, law enforcement. Okay, pick your local police department.

[C]

Right.

[D]

I get one guy on internal Affairs. That's all I do is I get one guy on internal Affairs. Well, what can I do then? Well, then I can start weeding guys out because I'll use the rules and I'll get the other guys out because I'm the internal affairs guy. Well, who do I put in when I, When I get rid of a couple guys, who do I put in? I put in my guys. And then what do they do? They get rid of a couple other guys with the rules and then they put their guys in and then that just continues. So it just becomes an exponential growth. That's why the nepotism is so dangerous. It isn't because nepotism is unique to that particular people. Let's be honest. I mean, Huey Long said it and what, 19?

[C]

Well, that's why they had to pass

[D]

all my relatives, you know, in things like nepotism isn't unique to them, but it's just how it works. What was that, Pete? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to talk over you. Go ahead. Good.

[C]

No, I was talking over you. That's why they had to pass the Civil Rights Act. They had to pass the Civil Rights act so we couldn't have freedom of association. They can have freedom of association. We can't write. Okay, as soon as we say, oh, let's, you know, we're going to exclude people from this community, their lawyers come down upon us.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That goes back to my HOA point. Not to cut you off, but that, that dovetails nicely with my HOA point. Like, that's all an HOA is. It's holding people to standards that they otherwise can't or won't. So it just becomes de facto segregation.

[C]

So that.

[D]

That's how they get around it. That's how they use the word games, the law games, the lawfare against them. That's what. That's all. It's all an HOA is. Anybody tries to tell you it's, oh, just because we want to have a nice community. It's like, no, this is just segregation by another name, which I'm not against, because that is how you get a nice community. They can live how they want to live. You live how you want to live. But that's exactly what an HOA is. So. So please continue, Pete. I wanted to just bring those two points together.

[C]

No, it's perfectly fine. I also wanted to bring up something else that just made me absolutely insane in this debate was I think Dave mentioned Dir Hassan being a genocide, and Dennis Prager started screaming, you've just blood libeled Israel. Is there any other. Do you need any other evidence that this guy is not right in the head? I don't care. He may have 100, man.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

He may have 160 IQ, but he's. He's fucking insane. He cannot. He's. I said this on Twitter the other day. A friend of mine, we were going back and forth and everything, and I think it was Radlib, Radical Liberation. He said someone mentioned Loren Ganot and he said, I know who Loreno is because of Pete. And he posted up the video of me and Aaron, my friend Aaron reading Israel the Psychopathic Nation. And My response to him was most people do not like having a mirror held up to them. Them Jews consider it a blood libel if. If you try to show them how they're acting or what they've done, they can. They take it as you want to kill them. And not only them, but all of them. How the fuck do you share a world.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

With people like that.

[D]

That's a point I want to raise very briefly again, like just. Man, Pete, talk about the two of us simpatico today. The word that sprang out to me throughout this whole debate more than any other. And I encourage your listeners to not just take. Take me using the word go look it up and look it up in five different dictionaries, physically, online, whatever, and look at every single meaning of the word. Because as D Knows who's followed my writing for at least 10 years now, I wring meaning out of words like. Like nobody else, rightly or wrongly, good or bad, is irrelevant. The word that sprang up throughout this whole debate in my head, Pete, and this is to rip off of what you said is alien. Alien, like I couldn't even fathom the way these people were thinking it was just foreign. Is too ins. Is insufficient, far too insufficient for me. Their method of thinking it was alien, as you say, the whole. Well, if you hold a mirror up to me, not only is that. Is that awful, it's blood libel. It means you want to kill all of us. All. It's a. Goodness gracious.

[C]

Well, think about alien.

[D]

Think about. And then just. I want to step back to what a question you asked, Pete. You said you were going to be devil's advocate, and you posed this question to D. What makes Jose and I more American than the people on that panel. I'm going to give you my answer, Pete. Here's my answer. Because neither you nor Jose are alien to me. I may agree with you, I may disagree with you, but I can at least understand where you gentlemen come from. Maybe we could be neighbors, maybe we couldn't. I don't know, maybe we could have a good time drinking together. Maybe not.

[B]

Not.

[D]

I don't know. But you are not alien to me in the way those people. I want to say literally every one of them was alien to me. And again, I. I'll drop it after this. Please look that word up in a bunch of different dictionaries because I mean, just about every definition you can take from that, referring to that.

[C]

Here's what from my research. Okay, maybe. Maybe Dean, maybe de knows this. I don't know if the other two know this, the original. We're talking about early 1800s, when the phrase the Jewish question came up. What was the main. What was the main concern when people talked about the Jewish question? When, when Marx wrote about the Jewish question, what was the main concern?

[D]

I. I don't know. I, I will. I will confess my ignorance.

[C]

Assimilation. How do we assimilate these, how do Jews assimilate into white European society? I'll leave it at that.

[D]

Well, I mean, yeah, my, my answer would be they don't and they don't wish to. But that's, that's a whole other topic, really.

[C]

They don't. And what do they. And what, what do they do? They immediately start to undermine. They immediately start to make it there, try to make it theirs.

[D]

This goes back to a point that I raised when we were discussing the psychopathic nation. This goes back to a point I raised there, and it goes back to something we just said. Dee and Jose were going back and forth about this comment conversation. I could live within gratitude, and forgive me, listeners who have heard me say this already, but I'll say it again for those that, that didn't purchase the Gumroad broadcast, but go purchase it if you can. If you can also. But I'll say it again here for the benefit of those that didn't hear the first time. I could live without the statues. I could live without the, without the gratitude. I could live without all that stuff.

[B]

Stuff.

[D]

What I can't live with is the hostility. It's one thing to be in gratitude because there's plenty of assholes on this planet. There's no shortage of them. But when I'm going to, I. In the broader sense, when, when, when Western Christians rush to your aid and if, if we're saying the Holocaust happened exactly as they say it did, which, let's just say for purposes of this conversation, it did. If it did. It's bad enough that there is a lack of gratitude, a tremendous lack of gratitude. It's unconscionable, and I choose that word carefully, unconscionable that you're undermining the civilization that saved you. It's just unconscionable.

[C]

You were asking, could we be neighbors? Could we be. Could we have drinks and get along? I'm sure you know the answer to that is yes. I would not, I wouldn't want to be at the same conference as Dennis Prager. I would not want to be in the same city as Dennis Prager. I mean, this is a guy who was laughing as he was talking about except for Nazism. Jews are responsible. I mean, and promote, I mean he didn't say only responsible, but, but promoting Nazism. I mean communism, feminism, capitalism, all these isms and everything. And he's always like, you know, this is also a guy who said that he's pro, he's responsible for more, more Christians coming to Christ than probably anyone else. He said that he was fine with AI Child porn. With child porn. This is a guy who is the one of the most incredibly dangerous people to any Western value. I mean, Western value is destroyed because Christians, you know, Judeo Christian, which is the biggest oxymoron. It's not even an oxymoron. That term should be melted and it

[B]

should disappear from the Lexcon.

[C]

Yeah, it's like dry water.

[D]

Yeah, it's dry.

[C]

I mean, this guy has, I mean, you want to talk about the ultimate, ultimate gatekeeper. The ultimate. It's worse than gatekeeper. He's doing everything possible to destroy what has been built here. And he probably already has. He's probably already done.

[D]

Pete doesn't even say at one point that he spent his life defending American values in the, in the debate. I'm pretty sure he does. I mean, if, if anybody can what are your for a second time or if any of your listeners end up watching it or have please, I, I, I implore you comment on Twitter to either Pete and I or Jose, excuse me, Jose as well comment and let us know because I am, I am 80% sure he says at one point he spent his life defending American value values or upholding American values. Like that's why it's just so bitterly ironic that he says that in the context of what you just mentioned, Pete.

[C]

Well, then you have to ask the question what is American values? And if ask him what, what do you think American values are?

[D]

But this dovetails nicely with what my answer to your question. Pete. I'm sorry, pose. I didn't mean to cut you off. I'll just jump off in a second. This. But this dovetails nicely too. I think you and Jose and myself could more readily agree foundationally on what air quotes American values are than me than we could with the aliens that were on that panel. Go ahead, Jose. You were starting to speak when I was.

[B]

No, I was speak to that particular point here because Dennis Prager has what he calls. This is when I first started breaking with the guy because I used to love him. I used to listen to him every day. I thought Dennis Prager was the best talk show host in the world. I thought that Dennis Prager was wise and benevolent and a kind man, and I looked up to him and. And now I despise him, and here's why. He has what he calls the American trinity, which is blasphemous when you think about it, but he calls it out e pluribus unum, in God we trust. And I want to say his third one is liberty. And I'll look that up real quick.

[D]

But.

[B]

But the sheer dishonesty of that of, like, liberty to do what? Drag queens. Because Dennis is okay with child porn, you know, as long as it's animated. What many. We can't.

[C]

Can't live with black people.

[D]

Right?

[B]

And which God? You know, Right, because my God's different. My God's Triune. My God's the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Your God's Moloch.

[C]

Mammon. Moloch.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

You know?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so. So why, you know, like. And this is just his inability to be honest, right? There's just no ability to live with a guy who's going to lie as much as this guy does towards the end. This guy lies the most about. And you have to keep him from public, you know?

[C]

You know, I was. I asked the question earlier. I said, you know, if they destroy this country, where do I go? You know, and somebody could be like, well, you know, your family's from Spain. Yeah, they destroyed that. Well, you know, your mother's, you know, Polish, Hungarian and everything. They're under attack.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Where the fuck do. Where do we go?

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Where do we go? And if I go to those places, if I.

[C]

Let's just hypothetically, I mean, they moved Franco's body. I was actually just into his memorial.

[A]

God bless.

[C]

And you took it out.

[D]

God bless you. I was just about to say land. Like, yeah, like. Like, they. They're literally dis. They're literally exhuming Franco. Like, literally. Where am I gonna go? Well, that's the other thing. D. I. I see to. One second. That's the other thing that got me when he. When Prager kept harping on, oh, there's 22. There's 22 Arabic or Muslim nations, blah, blah, blah, this. And. And, oh, just one of us and blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking, okay, well, first off, there's only one Jewish state. Okay, first off, are we talking about Jews as a. As a. As a. As a race, or are we talking them as a religion? Which one are we talking about? Because. Because Muslim is not a. A race. It's a religion. There. There are popular European Descent Muslims in England, it's like, okay, so are we talking, is that a race or is it a faith? Which one is it? Are you choosing Judaism? And second off, if it is a race, you can't have that because apparently nobody else is allowed to have that. Nobody else. And if it's a faith, you're also not allowed to have that, because whenever I say, hey, I'm a Christian nationalist. Not, not that I say that, but if I do, you imagine how quickly I'm going to lose my job because I'm not allowed to have that either. Oh, you could be. You could be Native American, you could be mestizo, you could be of African descent, you could be of European descent. I don't care. But you have to be Christian. Oh, can't have that. It's like, well, wait a minute, hold on. So what you're saying is we can't have an ethnic, an ethnostate, and we can't have a theocracy. We can't have either. So no matter what definition they want to use for Judaism, it's like, you know, you're right. Your country shouldn't exist by your own standards, because whatever one you want to choose to be, you can't have it.

[C]

Right?

[B]

And. And that's why I broke slowly, like I. I thought about. I turned around in my head and. Wait a minute. Out of many, one, you know, Dennis Prager doesn't have a problem with abortion. Dennis Prager doesn't have a problem with child pornography. As long as it's, like, virtually produced. Dennis Prager doesn't have a problem with pornography. So when I say I do have a problem with those things. And what is he conservative about? You know, he's this conservative talk show host. Like, what is he conservative about? Conservative about the culture?

[C]

No.

[B]

Doesn't mind destroying it. Doesn't mind Playboy. Doesn't mind. Doesn't mind lowly porn produced by computers. Conservative about religion?

[C]

No, not really.

[B]

He's pretty liberal about religion because I can't say, like, you know, we imported more Muslims after 911 than we're here in the first place.

[C]

Why?

[B]

What do they bring to the table that's so great? Falafel joints. I mean, really, you know, why? Oh, because we can't discriminate. That's the most evil thing. No, what his real religion is, what the real product of Judaism is, is to destroy white Western Christian societies. Once you understand that, there was not one person in that entire debate who said, I am for white Western Christian societies because they have Been the unequivocal best thing to ever happen to the world.

[C]

All that debate was about was whether the United States should serve Israel as, like this, you know, where it's not even noblesse obligation.

[D]

It's.

[C]

We're. We're basically their slaves. We're their slave state. We're their tax cattle. That's all it was about. Whether we should do that or whether we shouldn't. Whether we should help them fight their wars, whether we shouldn't, not whether we should have any fucking things to do with these people.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Whatsoever.

[D]

Right? That was the point I raised. The exact point I raised earlier. Again, we're very simpatico today. People in the same wave, like, yes.

[B]

And the fact that, right. Dennis Prager made millions of dollars, travels all over the country to low church Protestants, sells them the soap oil, convinces them to basically sell themselves out. And I can't get on the radio to tell, say that dance breakers full of nonsense, right? Dennis Prager has to say, oh, the American trinity, right? Liberty, e pluribus unum. You know, in God we trust.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Well, okay, but Dennis, you're a Jew.

[A]

You.

[B]

You can say, oh, everyone can come to America, but I can't go to Israel except to spend a bunch of money as a tourist and, you know, pray before the wailing Ball and put on my little funny hat.

[D]

That.

[B]

And pretend that we have the same faith. Like, no, Dennis's minions in the Congress just made the scriptures illegal. They just made the gospel.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And liberty. What about liberty? Well, liberty to be safe on the street. Liberty not be shot. You know, liberty. Liberty did not have my kids get beat the crap out of in a public school that I pay for. You know, my kids can't go to a public school.

[A]

Yeah. The only liberty he's concerned for is about wearing his skin suit for, like, his otherwise, like, beastial, like, agenda. Because, like, that's the, like, that's like, that's the thing about, like, in terms of coexistence. How can you, like, live with people that wear this, like, skin suit of, like, pseudo civility, but, like, whenever they go back home and just take off the skin suit, they just turn into this, like, feral beast that's just like, plotting to destroy your civilization. Like, at some point you have to realize, like, these people also you can't live with. Because I.

[D]

You can put.

[A]

You can put on the skin suit and like, like for a while, but eventually it's going to melt off and you're like, true reptilian color exceptions.

[C]

You know, he.

[B]

He Thought that Keith Ellison shouldn't be allowed to swear in when he was in Congress, shouldn't be allowed to swear in on the Quran because Dennis Prager thought everyone should swear in on the Bible.

[D]

So.

[B]

Well, wait a second. If, if we're excluding people from Congress because they're not culturally compatible, why can't I kick out that dude from Memphis, Tennessee, the Steve. Why are all the Jew, Ben Cardin, why isn't he, he's a Jew. Why is he ascended from Maryland? Maryland's for Catholics, right? Why, why is that? You know, for, for 30 years, Congress, California, you know, the most important state in the country according to leftists, was represented by two Jewish women, one of whom had a Chinese spy on her payroll for like 25 years, driving her around everywhere. Why can't I just say, hey, yeah, like these Jews, they can't represent ordinary people in Congress, right? When the Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, you know, that used to be the most prestigious cabinet post, right? When Thomas Jefferson was the Secretary of State, I believe he was Secretary of State under, under Washington. He says, you know, I come to you as a Jew, you know, Ian Michael Jones makes a point all the time, but he's correct, right? Like, okay, that means you can't represent Americans. You know, the highest board member who's supposedly in charge of border security doesn't care about American borders. He can't be the board, he can't be the Homeland Security Secretary because he's not an American who cares about American border, right? Janet Yellen's in charge of our money and what she care about? Funding $95 billion to pick wars with the entire Arab world, which we're still highly dependent on for energy. The Russians, you know, and the Chinese. So we just, we just spent a ton of money. We don't have a hundred billion dollars that my children's grandchildren are going to be paying off so that Jews can start wars on three continents. Hello, it is Ryan. And I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on jumbacasino.com I looked over the person sitting next to me and you know, they were doing, they were also playing Chumba Casino. Everybody's loving having fun with it. Chumba Casino is home to hundreds of casino style games that you can play for free anytime, anywhere. So sign up [e-mail] to claim your free welcome bonus. That's chumbacasino.com and live the Chumba Life. Sponsored by Chumba Casino.

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[B]

VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21/ Terms and Conditions apply. What on earth are we talking about here? And I like Dave Smith and Dave is a very funny guy and his podcast is great.

[D]

Right?

[B]

And you know, but even Dave wouldn't go there and just say, why is this even a conversation? Exactly. Why? Because I knows, I absolutely for 100 fact know that Dave knows what's up. Why can't anybody in the conversation just say, and ordinary people are noticing at a level that you wouldn't have thought possible. Fifteen years ago when I first started doing this, this was like we were like a voice crying in the wilderness. And now that most people are noticing, hey, wait a second now. Now we got to shut people down. Now we got to beat people kids up on campuses. Now we got to take away people's free speech. Now we got to dox people. Now we got to debank people. Why? If I'm lying, prove me wrong.

[D]

Wrong.

[B]

If Pete's lying, prove Pete wrong.

[D]

But again, that's. That could all of this dovetails a couple points you raised. Like we talked about. Oh, you were picking fights where we're energy dependent. But that goes back to the point I said we don't need to be energy dependent. We don't need to be. We could do it ourselves. We don't need to be. Then they're not only are they dragging us into, you know, why we're not in energy independent, could you know why? Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

There's two reasons on the. They like being energy dependent because that forces us to be involved in the Middle east so that they. We actually have to go to. There's that first part because. Because then we can start with Iran over the Gulf of Persian Gulf. Right, Right. You know, well, how dare the Persians be upset about, you know, shenanigans in the Persian Gulf. Right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But secondly, and this is, this is absolutely 100 true and malicious is, you know, who works in oil business? Who specifically right wing white diets.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Oh, right, yeah, absolutely. You're talking about. Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

The guys who make money in that part of the country.

[D]

Yes, absolutely.

[B]

The guys who make money and drive F350s that are beat to hell and have, you know, or work trucks. They're right wing white dudes who have dirty hands and clean mouth money. And when they have money, what do they do with it? They have families, they have kids, they do stuff for themselves and they.

[D]

And

[B]

from the guys doing the mud stuff to the engineers, Dennis's Prager's people do not want those People to have the ability to defend themselves by having a secure job and lots of money.

[D]

Right. Because that'll. If that'll end up in. With mustache man at the end for in reasons. It's like an old 4chan meme or something. You know, step one, step two, step three is all question marks, and then four is mustache man. That's just like. That just goes.

[B]

Yeah, well. Yeah, yeah. The only thing he did wrong was lose. So. So, like. But this is why you can't live with these people. This is why they have to be. That's why you need to have an affirmative defense, as Pete said. Like, you just need to be able to say, like, hey, yeah, can I see your 23 and me before you. Before you go out on the public airwaves. Oh, you're not an American. Oh, that's nice. You're not talking today. Sorry, Dennis.

[D]

Yeah, because.

[B]

Right, right. I mean, even Dave. Right. Who's was by far the best person on that panel.

[D]

Agreed, agreed.

[B]

You know, wasn't being fully honest. I like Dave. He's funny. I've listened to some of his standup. It's good. You know, his appearance on Rogan was one of the best. You know, he's a great guy for what he is, but he's still what he is. So why is there no ability for a person who's telling the whole truth anywhere in the public debate about anything? Well, because they own Congress. Look at what's happening in Congress.

[C]

There are still people who want to argue that. I mean, after all of this, there are people who want to argue that, you know, oh, there's no such thing as Zionist occupied government. I had somebody. I posted something from 4chan the other day. It said, someone posted on there, you have no idea how Jewish things really are. And who.

[A]

Whom. That's the fundamental question.

[C]

Somebody commented. Somebody corrected me and said, English, like British, you know, you know, going to the Carol Quigley route and everything like that. And I'm like, yeah, because they just passed a bill in Congress. They just passed a bill in Congress to outlaw bad talk against British people. You.

[B]

Yeah, they just made St. George's Day in a mandatory public holiday. No one. No one can make fun of the, you know, effeminate Episcopal priests. No know, you know, every, you know, evangelism of a. Of an Episcopal Church is considered a hate crime.

[D]

I was just gonna say license memes will get you thrown in jail. Yep.

[B]

Yeah, right. It makes people's bad teeth, and all of a sudden, you know, you're bad food and all of a sudden.

[D]

But right now, Mike Myers is languishing in Gitmo for the Austin Powers films

[C]

you just had. And this happened. I don't remember if it happened before or after we recorded last but another hundred billion. A bunch of it goes to Ukraine, which is a Jewish operation. A bunch of it goes to Israel. Enough said. A bunch of it goes to Taiwan, which. Who wants to destroy China? Who wants to.

[B]

Who sold all of our stuff. Stuff to China in the first place?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, people don't even want to talk about that. I mean, that's so buried on the Internet to try and find how, you know, military secrets that we, we gave to Israel, they turned around and sold it to China. Oh, imagine. You mean we gave them something free and they sold it? That color me shocked. I mean, that never happens.

[A]

Who was it?

[B]

Who was it in the 90s? Who, who was the Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton? Pete, do you remember?

[C]

I don't remember.

[B]

Now I do. His name is Robert Reich.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

When did all of our manufacturing capacity get shipped overseas and under which labor tech. You would think the American Secretary of Labor's job was, I don't know, protect American labor. Why did this guy just, oh, yeah, let's ship all the dyes and all the, you know, like, why can't we make planes anymore? I don't know. Because you shipped everything to China. You know, who's, who's behind weed legalization? We, that we talked about it last time. And I'll bring up Boeing briefly. You know, you've got these people working in the South Carolina plant who are smoking weed before they go into work. So if you're under 40, as a white person person in America, you've been destroyed by drugs, pornography, a degenerate culture, a lack of hope and jobs. I mean, you think, you know, us Gen Xers are pretty cynical, but, you know, what was normal for us was in our 20s was to, you know, Tylenol on Saturday night and maybe Sunday and then stumble into work and still work hard Monday through Friday. Who was it that was behind the destruction of America's young people to the point where they can't work the kind of jobs that we need them to

[D]

work

[B]

to make airplanes anymore. You know, that might be true, that Americans just won't do the jobs anymore, but who imported tens of millions of low IQ people who don't read, who are not capable of doing this or work? Wasn't me.

[D]

Certainly wasn't me.

[B]

I mean, you know, there's no honesty and there's no self reflection here. You know, Dennis Prager will. Oh, the liberal leftist Jews are the real problem. It's like, no, no, no, no. All of you are a problem. And if I say I don't want to live like Dennis, you should be for the expulsion of every left wing Jew from America tomorrow. I should be able to say, dennis, I don't want to live or anyone to the left of Ben Shapiro. They all need to go. I don't care where, but they need to go. And he should be the first one to say, you're absolutely right, they all need to go somewhere. Let them go to a kibbutz in Israel and get their fingers nails dirty and learn to be men again.

[D]

Right. But he won't. That, that's why he was so infuriating in the, in the debate because he said, and he tried to come across as high minded, did a noble. But it came across as far from that. When he says in the debate, yes, I'm an American, but there are, there, there are loftier ideals than just one's country. Like I'm phrasing it a little more dramatically than he did, but he did.

[B]

Right.

[D]

And exactly, that's exactly. You got it. And that's. He didn't use those exact words. He didn't refer to that exact, exact concept. But he does say that, yes, I'm an American, but I do. There are bigger ideals than just that. And I'm. And my immediate thought was, yes, and it's Israel. Like, like, like that's, that's what, that's what you're saying, Dennis.

[B]

Like, it's just Dennis supporter, as is Ben Shapiro. But Ben, you know, Ben Shapiro's openly said, like, I would gladly waive the you have to be born in America, you know, requirement for BB Netanyahu to be president of America.

[D]

Go.

[B]

Okay, I just want what you have.

[C]

Right.

[B]

The Leud party is based off Jabotinsky. Do you guys know who. I know Pete knows who Jabotinsky was. Do you guys know who Jabotinsky was?

[C]

No.

[D]

No, I do not. Excess Magnus.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Pete, would you care to elaborate?

[C]

No, go ahead, man.

[B]

Okay, so Jabotinsky was a Jewish fascist. He was Jewish fascist. So I want an ethno state with a wall and free health care and education, you know, free secondary education for bright kids and technical training for kids who are more inclined to that sort of thing. And an autarkic economy that supports its own in, you know, defense industry and, and you know, has government subsidies to farms so that we could grow her own food and If I want what he has, I'm the bad guy. I'm a fascist, I'm a racist, I'm a sexist, I'm a homophobe or whatever.

[D]

And.

[B]

And it's funny because Dennis will talk about the left only has the six herb argument.

[D]

Sexist.

[B]

Let me.

[C]

Pardon me.

[B]

Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, intolerant, racist, and bigoted. That's the only arguments left, guys. Well, the second you actually make an argument from Dennis is.

[D]

Right.

[B]

What's he saying?

[D]

Yeah, exactly. Racist.

[B]

It was wrong for people to discriminate against black Americans in the 60s. Okay, Dennis, then you explain race Warren High school to me.

[C]

Right?

[B]

And none of these people can. And that's why this. That, you know, I saw value of the stuff that Pete does is because you have to give ordinary people the tools to understand the actual game they're playing.

[D]

Yes, yes, very much so.

[C]

Yeah. The. What's funny is if you were to talk about Jabotzinski and anything that he was promoting, if you were to bring up his, you know, his activities in Turkey, his, you know, is basically wanting to conspire against the crown. There. There's an excuse for all of that. There's an ex. There's an excuse for it. All of it. Because

[D]

they.

[C]

They see it all as an end one. They can't criticize their own unless their own is denying the faith. Denying basically blood libeling another Jew or something like that. Just like. I mean, you could see Prager how upset he was that, I mean, another Jew would. Those words were coming out of Dave's mouth. You could see how the word blood libel comes out. And then when they. When they agree on something, he's very calm. Oh, yeah, it's great that we can agree on that. It's like you just can't agree with them. You just can't disagree with them. You cannot disagree with them. You can't disagree with them if you're a Jew. You can't disagree with them.

[D]

Well, not to go down the line.

[C]

You can't hold a mirror up to them. You can't say, look at what you did. You can't say, yagoda is responsible for the murder of 20 million people. Well, Yagoda was a communist, okay? But he was also a Jew. But he was a. That has nothing to do with it. He. He needs to be judged as an individual.

[D]

Well, Marx was. Me calling Marx spiritually feminine is like the. The. The only. Who are the only people? Women will rally. What? Who are the only women? Women will rally against the ones that break away from the herd, the ones that break away from the collective, the ones that defame other women. Like it's just a very spiritually feminine trait. These people have collectively taken upon themselves the curse of Eve. And that's, that's why everything you deal, whenever I deal with them, I always just constantly reframe it as if I'm dealing with a woman or a borderline, if they're exceptionally neurotic or crazy than a borderline personality woman. It's that collective acceptance of the curse of Eve that has them there. Because that's the only people, that's the only women that women will rally against are women that go against the female collective. And that's. Yeah, I, I, I not surprised to see his behavior that way. And also why he can't self reflect again. It's, it's that acceptance. The curse of Eve. He can't accept that he has flaws. It's just like women, it's like, it's not my fault. I had reasons. I had reasons. And I mean, D has children. I'm not doxing him for that. Everybody knows he has children. It's like D, he understands that immediately because, yeah, it's a child's argument, you know, because with D, I'll say, okay, well, why did you, why did you eat that? That was for your, you know, that was for your mom, or that was for me, or that was for your sister for their birthday or whatever. It's like, well, I was hungry and I wanted, it's like, well, yeah, but we can all say that I was hungry, I wanted. It's a child's argument. Everybody can say, oh, I have my reasons. It's like, well, right, we can all say that. But if that's the limit of your argument, it's really just a child's argument argument. Well, I mean, you don't, right, you have kids.

[B]

If, yeah, well, okay, so here's how this works, right? That's a second order disagreement. If the only thing that matters is what you want, right. You're unreachable. Be a reason. And every argument with you is the second order disagreement. And what you've said earlier in the conversation applies immediately. So if you're not reasonable, like not reachable via reason at all, which frankly, Jews and blacks have shown that they're not others too, but those two, especially because they're so spiritually feminine, any conflict immediately becomes existential and violent because there's no arguing. You know, Charles and I have been friends for many Many years. And there's things we disagreed about quite vociferously, actually, but because those were all first order disagreements, he would come up with new information or I would. And then we'd go, oh, okay, well, I was wrong or you were right or. Or whatever, you know, so any disagreement with Dennis, and it's. It might be a first order, like you and I might have the same disagreement, Pete, but any first order, first order disagreement with Dennis immediately becomes a second order disagreement because. Because he's incapable of having enough empathy to see the other person's side. You know, Dennis is from Southern California, or he grew up in New York and lives in Southern California. I happen to have lived in Southern California for a little while. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. It's perfect. The forecast for San Diego is pretty much the same all the time. 70 and sunny. I would love to be able to still live in Southern California.

[D]

I can't,

[B]

because it's been overrun by foreigners who are violent and loud and just everything awful. There's people living under every bridge and there's trash everywhere and human feces everywhere, and the prices are insane. I'd love to be able to live there again. It's gorgeous. Most beautiful place on earth. Just about. But I can't. And if I go to Dennis and say, dennis, I want to be able to live in this place again, we need to clean it up. There's certain things that need to happen immediately. He's going to say that, you know, he's not gonna be able to argue on the merits. It's just, oh, you're a fascist. For one man to expel a bunch of foreigners who are squatting, you know, period. Los Angeles used to be called Puritanus because there were so many WASP Protestants in Los Angeles in the 50s and 60s.

[D]

Wow, I did not know that either.

[B]

And now it's. It, you know, like there's. There's wealthy Jews who live there. You know, Harvey Weinstein just got sprung from jail. But, you know, if I can't say, hey, look, I. I don't like this degenerate filth that Harvey Weinstein produces that, you know, propaganda is my children and destroys the public discourse.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Can I throw. Can I, can we, can we deport Harvey Weinstein to Israel? Can we take all of his money? You know, could we, could we, could we confiscate his money? Because he's. Because he's done damage to the public. Fisk. And even if he has $2 billion, you know, taking every dime of that and and doing good things, but they wouldn't do half the damage that he's done to America in the last 30 years. Now, Dennis would be against that. So there's no arguing with Dennis. There's no arguing with any of these people, because everything instantly becomes a second order disagreement.

[C]

Right? The. The idea that. Well, I guess I'll say this. The. Knowing how well and how adept they are at what they've done to conservatism in this country. Conservatism is dead. I mean, we know that. I mean, conservatives are. Conservatives are running around calling people racists and fascists. I mean, what do you do with that? What do you do with a conservative? They're running around calling people racist and fascists. How do you talk to these people? How do you talk to them about Baton Rouge, St. George? How do you talk to them about this? You don't. You can't.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

I called. I called somebody a boomer on Twitter yesterday, and I said, no, you don't understand. Conservatives are liberals. You don't get this. And boomers are the worst. This is somebody who loves End Wokeness account. Just End Wokeness. Work those initials out. All of these accounts that are run by them.

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[C]

This person tagged the FBI on me. This is a conservative. This is somebody who's voting for Trump. And they tagged the FBI on me because I said that boomers were useless and that conservatives were liberals. I mean, if you don't understand that populism. There is no such thing as populism. Populism. Sorry, that doesn't work.

[B]

No, never has. Never will.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Populism, Inc. Is j. Op.

[C]

Yeah. There. There. There's only one way out of this. There's only one way out of this. And I think that if you. If you want to see the way out of it, look at what just happened in Louisiana. And that's your. That's. That's one of the ways to do it. But also, once you do that, you're going to have to gatekeep the hell out of it. And you're going to have to be willing to be like, nope, nope. I don't care what the Civil Rights act says. I don't care what this new House bill says, which, as far as I know right now, this House bill would only apply to colleges. It would be under Title six, but, you know, they'll expand that out. I don't care what any of these things say. Nope, nope. We're doing our own thing. If you try to come in here, there's going to be consequences. That's the only. There's. Donald Trump is the worst of them. The only good thing Donald Trump is for is to. Is Donald Trump radicalizes people enough that they may come and start listening to us and we can take them to the next step.

[D]

Very well put.

[C]

That's the only thing Donald Trump is useful for.

[B]

Yep. Amen.

[D]

Yeah. He's a paving stone on the way to a better destination.

[C]

That's it. I mean, how do you talk to these people about the fact that you just can't live with blacks? Oh, but I know this. Of course you do. Of course you do. We all do. That's not the point. How do you live with them?

[B]

Well, how do you live with anybody who's completely immune to being reasonable?

[D]

Yeah, that's. That's more where I was. Yeah, exactly. It's not even just one community. It's just so many.

[B]

The same with the whole conversation today is how do you live with anybody who literally cannot be reasoned with?

[D]

Right.

[B]

And it's not even a.

[D]

That's why I put on Twitter. I. It's still out there. I'm not. I have no, no desire to take it down.

[C]

It's.

[D]

The longer we. The longer we. There is no political solution, and the longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. And that's what you're saying, Pete, is if we don't start. If we don't start fortifying what we have, if we start Balkanizing to a point, and if we don't, that sort of thing, then we just go to this, where the second order disagreement is going to become what I said. So it's going to be violent. What you're saying is it's trying to do it peacefully now and fortify it now before it gets there. And we can only hope and pray that we're able to do that. And at least this is a step in the right direction. But I don't know if it's too little Too late. I hope it's not. But even whether it is too late or it isn't, it doesn't invalidate your words. If anything, it only, it only backs them up, only supports them. It's like this is the way out and this is what you have to do. There's just not. It's not even a matter of one. It's what you have to do and you have to stop seeding ground. You have to. I mean, I left the east coast and I live now live in almost the exact dead center of the continental United States. There is nowhere else for me to run. Nowhere. It does not exist. Not only do I not even have a foreign country to go to, I've run out of places in my own country to go to because now it's here too, with illegal immigration. I have a weed farm around the corner from me that is run solely by illegal Chinese and I can't get anybody to do jack about it. And I have called everybody from district attorneys to drug and control boards to the water company of my local city to see if I can get them into looking into it because they don't have a commercial water. Well, they, they have a, a residential. So it's a.

[B]

Like in a semi arid environment.

[C]

Right. And they're not legally.

[D]

Exactly. You're exactly right. And that's exactly what they're doing. And it's just. There's nowhere to run and they are taking what you are. Not to go down the wrong road, but just to kind of prove how badly we're losing ground and how, how this, how far these things are going. I'm. I law enforcement, security fields, investigation, all that. Dean knows my background. You guys know my background background? Well, I know a security guard that works at the libraries in Oklahoma City and he says the homeless are literally allowed to bring in spears. One guy has a halberd literally allowed to bring spears into the library as long as they leave them at the front desk. Because these people need to be able to protect themselves Now. D. What happened to guys? What's going to happen to guys that grew up like me or possibly yourself? Like, like lower middle class white kids that want to just read books and want to better themselves and be autodidacts and educate themselves. You think they're going to go to the library now? Do you think they're going to feel safe now that there are literally spears leaning up the counter and schizophrenic homeless people, people wandering around there? Because we have to let them. Yeah, like we, like now we've lost the library. Like, if you don't think the library is how guys like me. And I don't know if they're. I'm sure many of your listeners got out of upper lower class or lower middle class. I. I got bridges to sell you. Because that's why

[B]

my mother would do a shopping and I'd be like, hey, can you just drop me off at the library? Five hours.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

My backpack.

[A]

Yeah. The destruction of these public spaces is one of the most insidious of facets of this multicultural area. Yeah.

[B]

There are no third spaces.

[A]

Yes, exactly. There's none of them.

[B]

That's why. And this is again, who's responsible is every single time. But third space is how you organize, how you organize politically. Third spaces are how you meet dates. The third spaces are how you maintain friendships. Third friendships or third spaces are how you live in a community with people. But if every third space in St. George in Baton Rouge is one wrong person showing up away from being a bloodbath, and it is, yep.

[D]

I couldn't use the pool at my old apartment complex for that exact reason. And understand, like, Pete, to kind of address something you were saying a moment ago, and I'll try and keep this cogent and give the floor back to you gentlemen, but to go something you were saying, we have to kind of do what St. George did and find. Find this common ground and fortified, understand? There's already huge sections of the United States that do this. There's already huge sections of the United States that have their own way of doing things. There's literally entire sections of Philadelphia that are completely free of government interference. Why? Because these people have become ungovernable. Why? Because they don't need the laws to tell people not to live there. They tell people not to live there. I was chased out of my Philadelphia community because they told me in no uncertain terms, you don't need to live here anymore. And I got bad news for you. It wasn't the black community that did that to me, and it wasn't the Jewish community did that to me. That was the mestizo community. Like, nope, you don't need to live here anymore. They chased me out of Philadelphia. There are entire sections of this country that are already Balkanized that already don't care what billion dollars of real estate they already don't care.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Because they're ungoverned. Because the police department doesn't go there. Because the fire department doesn't go there. Because they say, get the fuck out. We don't have that's all, that's all people here have to do. The more that's all right wing communities have to start doing. The only difference is they're going to bomb the shit out of you like they did Randy Weaver or, you know, shoot the out of you like Randy Weaver. That is the difference. But that again, that's another reason that defunding the police is starting to become a good idea idea. Like they're, they're, they're, they have a boot on your neck. They're not protecting you anymore. They're, they're the ones with the boot on your neck. You just have to be.

[C]

They're race traders.

[D]

What's that?

[C]

They're just race, they're race traders. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I mean, as a guy who's been in law enforcement his whole life, I'll be the first one to say, you know. No, I, I, I. If you say you love cop, I think we've talked about this between you and me, Pete. If you say you love cops, I, I disagree with you. If you say, hey, cops, I also disagree, disagree with you. I'm very much a knee jerk iconic class with that. But anyway, you were saying about their race traders that we said, Pete, about the.

[C]

Yeah, I mean in 2020, they, you know what I've been trying to do with this whole college campus protesting and everything? I think some of it, some of it's organic, some of it's an op. But I've been trying to point out, look, I mean, these are the cops who let you know, blacks and, and you know, know everyone else who wanted to do whatever they wanted in the summer of 2020. They enforced lockdowns. They did.

[D]

I was just going to say they did a lot.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

These are the people throwing pregnant women to the ground because they were on a park bench.

[C]

Yeah, but now what, now what are they doing?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But now, but now what are they doing when it comes to their, you know. We just found out that the NYPD has an office in Israel. Did you see that that was revealed?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

NYPD has an office in Israel. Something that like libertarian Scott Horton's been saying for years is that a lot of American police go and train, train in Israel and that's where they learn a lot of their zygotes. Yeah, yeah. So what happens? They're whole.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah. That is. But the whole thing is now, when it's them attacking their masters now they come and they shut it down. I mean, it's literally like the meme.

[D]

Yes, it is.

[C]

The dude is Standing there with the walkie talkie and he goes, shut it down. And they go and shut it down.

[B]

And sorry to interrupt you a bunch, Charles. I was on a little delay there, but, but who was behind, like, there, there are places where the, the 2020 riots didn't touch wasn't places protected by police. Places that the Latin King said, if I see your black ass cross this street, everybody in your neighborhood is dying. In places in Chicago where the Latin King said, you're barely hanging on. If we see anybody go into our neighborhood, the race war is on. And they understood it and they kept the hell out.

[D]

Well, who they left. What white neighborhoods got left alone too. How many tick tock videos, YouTube videos, Twitter videos did you see? Go ahead. But you know where I'm going with this.

[B]

Yeah. Dads will play carriers. And they are. It's going. Just standing there.

[D]

Yep. Just standing there. Not, not waving at anybody, not making threats, just standing there.

[B]

And, and here's, here's to, to reach back. And this is where I, this is why conservatives are hopeless. Your biggest problem, and in fact every problem in the world, I mean, we've, we've talked a lot about two particular populations today. The only thing stopping everything, literally everything in the world from being better by a year from now, 80% solved.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Is white liberals.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And if you don't understand that there is no living with these people, that there's no. Well, she's my brother in law. Sister in law. Like, no, no. You can tell your brother, like, look, until your wife is not insane anymore, you're not welcome at our house. We might move and not even tell you where we live.

[D]

Give. Right.

[B]

You want to send a Christmas present to your niece? Send it to mom and dad's house. We'll pick it up. But until you're not married to that crazy anymore, we're not doing this. And I hate to be that harsh about defuing family members, but these are the sort of people that will help the mob burn your house down.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Because you have a, A Twitter account that said something spicy. And there is no living with someone who refuses to contribute, refuses to be reasonable and refuses to leave. Right.

[D]

Yeah. It also dovetails with your point earlier about. You don't get to talk about airplanes if you don't know anything about them. You know, it really, a lot of these people just have these attitudes like, okay, what's yours? What was the old thing on. On Twitter? What's your zip code? You know, when they would say, oh, we need you, you know, you need to import. This many people in your. Your neighborhood. You need to appreciate diversity.

[B]

What's the meaning?

[C]

Income in your neighborhood?

[D]

And you just say, okay, what's your zip code? I want to know where you live. You know, or. A lot of these fellow whites that would say stuff. My inc. My question to them would be, what parish do you go to? What parish do you go to? Fellow Christian, fellow white. You know, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not. Wait a minute. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Right?

[D]

You see where I'm going with that? Yep. Who's your pastor? Who's your minister? What parish are you in?

[C]

Oh, well.

[D]

Oh, okay. That's interesting. That's interesting, right? That's why you got to shut a lot of these people down. It's like, don't. Don't dictate to me what life is like on the front lines. I live there. Don't tell me who I need to live with.

[C]

And you just don't. And you just don't get to say about us saying, we want to live around who we want to live around. When you have us, when you have a country that you have to have a DNA test in order to be a citizen.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Go fuck yourselves.

[D]

Go.

[C]

I mean, literally, I'm fucking sick of it. I'm. I'm sick of it. The.

[D]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, Israel. But let's debate Israel and Palestine and Iran.

[D]

We.

[C]

How about we debate the fact that you people. What you people have done to this country that you brag about. It's not like I'm making this up.

[B]

Yeah. I can show you video.

[C]

I show people videos, and they still don't believe it.

[D]

I'm just gonna say, I've seen you on Twitter. I've seen you literally on Twitter. Like, send them the. The. It's the video of the woman talking about all the accomplishments of. Of. Of. Yeah. Of Jews in America.

[C]

I've seen Dennis Prager, the Dennis Prager video, the Barbara Learner Spectre video. You show them that, and it just. And they're so thick in that head.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Like the goy. The goyim who. They can't. They can't see it because, you know, it's like Israel greatest ally. And the Jews, you show them that, and it's blood libel or. That doesn't mean anything. They have to be judged as individuals. So what I say, speaking for the

[B]

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[D]

Right. Exactly right.

[B]

So when Dennis says every ism in the world except for fascism is basically Jews. Feminism, Jews, communism, Jews, socialism, Jews, environmentalism, Jews. And I take him, as it were, and say, you know, all of these things are really horrible to destructive to society except fascism. Can we deport all these people?

[C]

Do you know how anti Semitic I am? I believe them when they say something. Yeah, that's how anti Semitic. I believe them when they say something. No, I believe you.

[D]

You.

[C]

I just disagree. Oh, the fact that I disagree, that makes me an anti Semite. Go yourself.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Well, and all the way off.

[B]

Well, and how dare you. Dennis Prager has any biological children? I might be wrong. He's been married a couple times.

[D]

Oh, so he's a conservative American that's had been married three or four times.

[B]

Conservative.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Conservative boomer that's been married three or four times.

[C]

Oh, don't worry. He'll. He'll get married to an Asian before he dies and it'll. He'll just. His boomer cycle will be complete. Yeah.

[D]

Anyway, that's the final metamorphosis, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Murdoch's last wife was an Asian woman.

[D]

There are a bunch of Filipinas right now just anxiously awaiting the plane tickets.

[B]

Yep. Anyway, so he is gambling with my children's future by picking fights with nuclear powers. And one of the most ancient empires in the. In the world. Iran just proved that they have the ability to basically destroy the oil infrastructure of the entire Middle East. If this, if the Saudis get froggy and start fighting with the Iranians or the Jews get froggy and start fighting with the Iranians. The Iranians just proved they had the ability to completely destroy the oil infrastructure of the entire Middle East. I don't need to tell you guys how horrific that would be for the world. Ironically, the Iranians have moral qualms about this sort of thing, and they're far more moral than the Israelis. Okay, so Dennis Prager gets millions of dollars, gets to set the terms of debate, and he gets to impose conditions on my children that will leave them impoverished and possibly dead out of an inability to be honest about his own. About honestly looking in the mirror. And I'm supposed to live with the

[D]

guy,

[B]

pay the guy's tax bill, permit him to talk in public, and if I get away from him and say, you know what? You go live in Brooklyn, you're not welcome here. I'm the bad guy. This is insane. There is no living with this. This cannot continue. And, and what conservatives need to understand, I think this. This whole first and second order disagreements thing is a really, really great way to frame it. Pete, thank you for that.

[D]

Agreed.

[B]

There is no way to live with people who can't be reasoned with, with, won't leave you alone and depend on you completely. Why. Why is everyone in Saint, you know, mad about St. George? Why is everyone mad, you know, like, if the Israelis were really, really the masters of the universe that they purport to be, Right? If they were smarter than us, better than us, more handsome than us, Right? Have more kids, all this other stuff, you know, we're super rich. We have. We have all this money. We're the wealthiest people in America. Okay, fine. You guys can take your millions and billions and just all of you can go to Israel. You could go live in your garish apartments on the beach, Tel Aviv, ethnically cleanse Gaza, turn it into, you know, Miami west or Miami east and. Or Palm beach east, and. And we'll just.

[D]

Well, no one will.

[B]

No one will watch television in America anymore. We won't have any tv. We won't have any funny sitcoms. No one will have any newspapers. Right? We'll just. We'll just wither and die on the vine, right? Okay, fine. Maybe that's what I want.

[D]

Yeah. I can't. Kill me if I think not having television isn't really a loss, but. Right?

[B]

Like, okay, yeah, maybe, you know, we won't have science or we don't have this. We won't have that. Whatever. Not your problem anymore. But you won't do that. Why not? Why are you a dual citizen, constantly telling us what we need to do with respect to your home country? Why don't you just go there, Benji? You want.

[A]

You want.

[B]

You want Bibi Netanyahu to be your head of state? Move to Israel, Ben.

[D]

Yeah, I was gonna say, he's already head of state over there. Just go there. It's that.

[B]

Move to Israel, Dennis moved Israel. Batya Angar Sargon. Move back to Turkey. Sink. Move to Israel, Dave. And all of this stuff won't be your problem anymore. And if I am a bad person for suggesting this, fine, I'm a bad person. I don't care anymore.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, it's gotten to the point where people just have to take sides. They have to decide whose side they're on. Are they on the side of Americans or are they on the side of this group that has absolutely captured every institution and everything about this country, Spain, and. Stop debating. Stop debating it. There's no more debates.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Spain, 1936, right there.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Yeah, Spain D. And I had that. How old is that conversation now?

[B]

LD God, that's gotta be five years at least.

[D]

Easily. Five years. Easily.

[B]

Yeah. Where we are right now is January 1936 in Spain. You get a. Pick a side.

[D]

Well, I don't really. I don't really agree with either, because. No, no. Well, you know, Guy, I'm not this. Nope, nope. Pick one. You get this, you get this. You get that. That's what you get. Well, no, the problem with.

[C]

The problem with a lot of people picking sides. You know what that means, right? That means they're going to lose a lot of income.

[D]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[C]

Believe me, I did it. When I decided to pick sides and I was like, libertarianism is total leftist crap garbage, and I'm not going to promote this anymore. And I decided I had a libertarian this week coming after me online for the way you cover World War II and Hitler, I'm like, I guarantee you, if you go back and listen to my episodes where Aaron and I read Lenin, State and Revolution, I had more positive comments about. About what was written in that book within those six or seven episodes than I have in the probably 75 episodes Thomas and I have had on World War II, on Hitler, on the fascists, on the. On the National Socialists, I guarantee you I had more positive comments about in that than this. Why? Because even though I've picked the side when it comes to stuff like this, I'm going to remain neutral. But the reason I cover is. Oh, why would you even cover that? Because it's the other side. It's the side. Look at who won. This is the one thing that people cannot figure out. Like, if you. If you, Il Duce post on Twitter, inevitably you're going to have somebody who thinks they're a right winger come along and post a picture of Mussolini hanging upside down dead.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

And my response to them is always, you realize the people right now who are trans and kids who control this country, who have the borders open, who are doing everything that you voted for Donald Trump to stop, their forebearers, their ideological forefathers, are the people who did that, that they're Actually won the war.

[B]

They're actual fathers. Joseph Stalin's granddaughter is. Lives in Portland, has pink hair and is a lesbian.

[D]

Really?

[C]

They. The people who won? Yeah. And then you look at Mussolini's granddaughter and she dresses in the nicest clothes and looks like a. A professional woman. I mean, the people who won World War II were the bad guys. They were the bad guys.

[B]

It's the old norm.

[C]

Everything that you're suffering now comes from the people who won World War II.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

The fact that people can't fucking get that through their head is probably one of the most. I mean, after all of this that we've done, after the hours upon hours upon hours. I mean, fucking doing this while we're sick. Doing this while, you know, doing this when we know that we can get taken down anytime. Doing this when we know we can get a fucking call from the FBI. I mean, Oren McIntyre said to me a year and a half ago, privately, he said, I would not be shocked if they start shooting, they start taking out podcasters because we're speaking way too much truth.

[D]

Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be shocked either. No. I have to be honest. I wouldn't be.

[C]

You know, I'm walking it. I'm. I'm. I'm up in. You know, I'm up in Aniston doing my shopping and everything. Oh. And some. Some comes up behind me and just puts a bullet in my head and. Oh, it's completely random.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not saying I want this. I'm not even. I mean, I know I'm making myself out like a martyr now, but it could happen to Orin. It could happen to any. It could happen to anyone who's speaking the truth right now.

[D]

Keep in mind, Dean knows this. That's how I. That's. That's very similar to how I lost my federal government career because I started standing up and saying, no, this is wrong. I'm not going to fast track these mestizo sex criminals and give them their green card, their citizenship. I wrote all I've talked. We talked about this. You remember when you and me were talking about it on the. Bordering on insanity, I talked about this. It's like, yeah, they. They will come for you. No, nobody puts. Put a bullet in my head. Nobody. You know, but, I mean, they got rid of me. They ushered me out, so that's not a very. You. Where you're talking about is not a very big step from where I already am, from what already happened to me. It's not that big a step if they're willing to ruin you professionally, make you unhirable by almost anybody. Then it's just a short hop, skip, and a jump to where you're talking about somebody putting a bullet in the back of your head. And when you want to talk about that real quick, quick, I still remember to this day. And if people want to scroll through the receipts on my Twitter, you may be able to find it. I got into it with Pax Dickinson, of all people, when Seth Rich got murdered. And he's like, oh, it was just a random street crime. Like, bro, are you fucking serious? You think a guy that had all this and got shot twice in the back, nobody took any of his stuff, was a random street crime?

[B]

Crime.

[D]

I'm like, do you know the last person that got shot in a random street crime like that? Batman's parents? Because if you've got a gun, you go rob a liquor store, you don't pull it on somebody in the street. Most people don't get robbed at gunpoint in the real world. They get robbed at knife point or they get robbed by a strong arm. Intimidation guns are usually used to rob actual buildings, businesses, banks, if even then. And it's like, so you're saying the point of that story is just to say, like, you're right, these people don't believe it until we're so far past it, it's mind blowing. That was Pax Dickinson that I argued about that. I don't know if he's since come around to Seth Rich's murder, but at the beginning, he and I got into it. So, yeah, I won. Just to wrap it up, I wouldn't be surprised if they start getting going after your podcasters. I agree with RM McIntyre. I agree with that. And like I said, they've already gotten me to a point. So it's just a short hop, skip, and a jump to where you're talking about. Go ahead.

[B]

And the amount of. Glenn Beck is the biggest Zionist tool on the face of the planet. He's received thousands of death threats. He has to have an armored car. Sarah Palin has received thousands of death. Like Tea Party people receive thousands of death threats for Milk coast stuff from 15 years ago.

[D]

They.

[B]

They know that they're utterly dependent on us and that they can't live without us and that they're parasites and so they. They really resent the host. It's like, maybe I should get a flea collar, Right? But I want to just briefly talk to your point. Look, it doesn't really matter if obviously suffrage was murdered by Some sort of political agent. But even if it was just a random street crime, that street crime is policy. Houston is a. Because Sheila Jackson Lee wants it to be A. So she can keep getting elected. Because if it was nice, if it was safe, all of her people would be economically politically displaced.

[A]

Right.

[B]

When you move away, it's white flight. When you move in, it's racist or it's gentrification. They're both bad. Okay, so Greg Hoods made this point better than anybody over at American Renaissance. Right. Black crime is a public policy. You could just lock up all the schizophrenics. You could just. You could just. Hey, hey, look, he's 15 and he's got three felonies. Hang him. That worked for a thousand years, right?

[D]

Yeah, I think so. I think the Random store, if you get. If you. If you were to execute everybody that has. I want to say. I want to say it's five felonies. Every. Everybody that has five felonies, crime would drop by 70%.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You could double check. Jose, you're. You're great with numbers.

[B]

Eugenics program right there.

[D]

Yeah. But I want to say if you. And that's five felonies. I'm not even getting to three. I'm. I'm letting you have your three strikes and then some. You have five. Crime will drop 70%. I think if you execute them at three, it drops 90%. But don't, don't, don't. You can check my numbers if you want, Jose. I'll definitely. Yeah, I bow to you if you find something different. But I. 90.

[B]

But that's a policy. That's.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Agreed. Yes. This is not like random elements. It's absolutely deported three times.

[B]

Who rapes a nun? Right. That guy. And that sort of thing has happened.

[D]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

You know, he should be deported to, you know, international waters and given the, you know, thrown out of a plane treatment, like the Pichet treatment, because he's a.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, that's a policy. And if everyone who's a criminal from Venezuela, who's coming here because Venezuela is like, hey, we're broke. Let's just export all our criminals to America. That will hurt our political enemies and help us abolish Bunch part two.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Marty Leakos. Yeah, exactly.

[B]

And I really can't blame Nicholas Maduro in terms of policy. It's a brilliant policy. Right. Yeah.

[A]

Addition by subtraction.

[D]

Right.

[B]

So, you know, he's. He's, he's helping his friends and hurting his enemies. That's politics. Right? So that's a policy. And so when you, when you look at it and say, okay, well, well, where's. Name me one Jew other than like maybe Paul Gottfried, who's advocated for sane public policy in America in the last 20 years.

[C]

Ronan's Ron.

[B]

Okay, that's two.

[C]

Yeah, the, the exceptions always prove the rule.

[D]

Congrats. You've doubled the number

[B]

I should hit.

[A]

Sorry, Ron.

[B]

I should have, remember? Right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Other than those two guys who are frozen out of everything, despite Dr. Gottfried being a eminent scholar who has a degree from Yale and taught it.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Instead of teaching it.

[C]

He learned how to speak German just so that he could read Carl Schmidt in the original language.

[B]

Yeah. Speaks multiple languages, has a degree from Yale. He taught at a small Christian college because they're the only people that would hire him. Why wasn't he teaching at Harvard or Princeton or Georgetown or some point? He, he's, he's one of the great public intellectuals of the last 50 years. Why is, why is he editing, you know, this small little magazine that only, you know, a couple thousand people read? Right. Chronicles is great. I love it. You know, I've been read it for years, but it's not right. So why. And run nuns. You know, this brilliant guy who made millions in software, who's done nothing but public service ever since, you know, published one of the great magazines before it went bad. American Conservative is one of the few people to be honest about all sorts of issues. Why isn't he on Sunday talk shows? Oh, wait, right. Because everybody else is lying. And if I say that they're lying, I'm the problem. Because Dennis Prager says, oh, you're an anti Semite. No, Dennis, you're just lying and all your friends are lying. And everyone you go to synagogue with on Saturday lies and is a parasite and is a thief and he's playing. Let's you and him fight with the rest of the world on my children's dime and my children's future.

[D]

You're.

[B]

You're, you're picking fights that my children have to. Like you're saying in 10 years your 10 year old son is going to have to enlist and of war I started.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Excuse me?

[D]

Literally, you. Yeah.

[C]

If.

[B]

If you are saying that my 10 year old son is gonna have to get drafted to go fight in Siberia because. Do you have an ethnic grievance that goes back a thousand years? And that's my problem. Go yourself. My daughter's got to lose husbands in the South China Sea because. What are you talking about?

[D]

She might have to go fight.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Because remember, this is now, you know, equality.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I got to worry about my daughter getting drafted into the Navy and serving on a ship with a bunch of men.

[D]

Yeah. You don't even, you're not even worried about the enemy yet because she's still got to make it safely there. Yeah, exactly. Not only that, who's the. Who's in the military now. So you get to worry even more than you would have just 20 years ago, who's you're going to be on your daughter, going to be in a ship with. Now think about that. People trying to get their citizenship through military service, which. Yes. That's a thing, you know, or, you know, some trune. You know what I mean? Like, okay, think about that. Like you, she'd be lucky to make it to the enemy. And I don't wish your children ill. Of course. You understand what, what I'm. You understand.

[B]

And you know, the great Charles Haywood, you know, like, has, has the prescription for these people. They need to be rusticated. That we need to, we need to, we need to set up a reservation in North Dakota right on the Canadian border. And they all need to farm potatoes for a living for the rest of their lives. Their fortunes.

[C]

That. And, and, and just a message to those people. That's the moderate option.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

The sensible centrist option.

[D]

Yeah, I'm with you there. Yep.

[B]

Yeah. Well, and, and again, because you're not reasonable, because you're incapable of first order disagreements, this is the choice you're forcing people to make. And all we are doing here is telling those people, people that you steal from, that you lie to, that you get into wars, that you get into intergenerational debt that'll last till the sun goes out, that you've turned their cities into unlivable where their public schools and the public transit aren't safe, where kids just randomly get shot in the middle of the afternoon. Right. None of. No, no conservative white people did this. You did. And when I say you did it and I play video of you saying, yeah, we did that. We're proud of it, and I say, well, I don't want to live around those people. I don't think they should live here. I don't think they should be sovereign because they don't know anything about building an airplane. So I don't think they should have any say in who flies the airplane. They don't know what flaps. Do you. They don't know how the rudder works. They don't know how a turbine functions. I'm Thinking that they don't need to know. And I'm not saying I know all this stuff either, but if you claim credit for all the bad stuff and don't know anything about any of the good stuff, and then I say perfectly reasonably, maybe you just shouldn't have a voice on these issues, and then you immediately go to, oh, well, second order disagreement. It's word of the knife. Okay? That's the choice you made. You could just be like, hey, we can't live together. I'm moving to Israel. Okay, good. See you. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

[C]

All right, well, we're at two and a half now, so we should probably, I think we've, I think, I think we sent the message we want to send. As far as Baton Rouge St. George goes and as far as the debate goes, I'll give everybody the floor to do a closing, any kind of closing comment they wish. So, Charles, why don't you go first?

[D]

Thank you, Pete. I, I, there's really not much more to add. I interjected where I felt was, felt was capable. But I'll just wrap up very briefly with this, something you were mentioning earlier, Pete, about the, the friend, enemy distinction and who stands for what. And I, and there was a tweet a while back that I believe the account was Frog Wave. And I've been, this has just been stuck in my head for the longest time. And it was, I don't know if this was, this literally happened to him or it was just an example. I suspect it was the latter. But regardless, it was phrased thusly that he approached somebody demonstrating at a pride slash trans parade. And, and he said, well, what, what do you stand for? This individual said, you know, gay rights, trans rights, the ability to know, age of consent, laws, etc, all things along those lines, lines. And he said, okay, what would you say is your, your nemesis? What, what position do you think is antithetical to trans communism, homosexuality, pederasty? What would you say that the number one nemesis is to the, to all that? What do you think your worst enemy is? And the response was Nazis. And he says, thank you. Thank you. So I'll leave it with that.

[C]

Perfect. I mean, nothing more to say about, it's just insane. All right, Jose.

[B]

Well, I

[A]

have spent, like, a lot of time really trying to get it into, like, people's heads about the importance of reading just like, revisionist history or really like censored history, if you, if you will, with respect to understanding the host of problems we are we're facing at the moment because they have, they have a clear origin story that most people don't want to accept. Like, I remember a conversation I had like a few weeks ago about with a guy who was kind of complaining about how like things in like, like the city mat I'm at we're getting like pretty trashy and we're, we were talking about white flight and stuff and he was like saying this, oh, this is like like all like Biden's fault. I'm like dude, this has more this has been multiple decades in the making and I've, I, I really do think that we have to start talking about all of this stuff from the, the rise of organized jewelry to like their most successful pet projects started from like Shelly V. Kramer and then then turn into the massive like ICBM launched against historic American nation that is the civil rights revolution. And I, I just think it's very important to continue harping this point because at some point we're going to have to look at things a lot more soberly and eventually draw battle lines because this is no longer there's no longer going to be debate states that's like the, the province of a functional policy. Once things truly break down, that's when we go back to the state of nature where the friend enemy distinction becomes the operating norm and we have to be ready for the worst. And I believe that this will be a process that's going to weed out the weak in a very lurid and grotesque fashion. But that's why we I have been been prepared for this for a while, both with the facts and the physical conditioning.

[C]

Jose and I'll come right back to you. Charles to do plugs. Jose, plug your work because you've been putting out a lot lately. A lot of like good short little bangers there.

[A]

So that so yes, my main podcast content can be found on substack. My podcast Jose N Nino Unfiltered and El Nino Speaks is my podcast in which I which is also on itunes and Spotify. And I've introduced a more like short form segment that's called El Nino Sounds off where I talk about more like daily news and other crazy stuff that's happening. And then you can also follow me on X at Jose Al Nino.

[C]

Charles Real quick if you want to

[D]

plug your books guys, I have two books currently on Amazon, Whiskey and Ashes and Inebriates of Vowels, Maxims and Observations. And then the other book is the Holistic Guide to Suicide. It's all about coping with depression ideation Suicidal ideation and trying to rebuild one's life after tragedy. So I strongly encourage you to pick up definitely the latter, if not the former. And I mean that sincerely, because I have heard from many people that it is helpful. Helpful. So I do very much ask that you. You pick that up. And lastly, I can be found on Twitter Whiskey and Ashes. If you had left a comment you'd like to hear more from me, if you'd like me to broadcast more or just appreciate what I do, I'm always open to hearing kind words. And even if it's a constructive criticism, if it's just, you suck, go kill yourself. Please spare me the time. But if it's constructive, I'm also having. Happy to hear that. So thank you for having me, Pete. I'll see the floor.

[C]

All right, De

[B]

Obviously after this stream, none of us are ever getting a job in the mainstream media ever again.

[D]

So,

[B]

so, so please.

[D]

I was looking for my spot on the View.

[B]

Yeah, I pay to see that. So, you know, go to support, Support Pete. Go to subscribe to the substacks, buy Charles's books. You know, follow my Telegram channel. I, I legitimately think these guys are some of the sharpest people talking today and I listen to the mainstream, so you don't have to. So please do support the people that support you. Pete will have links to my Telegram channels in, in the, you know, in the show description, I think. And you know, get, get Telegram from. From app, not from the apps for Store because they censor and just be prepared, you know, listen to the people that aren't lying. And, and I've said it before on these shows, but like, take somebody who's listening to Glenn Beck and get them to Tucker Carlson. Take somebody who's looking to Tucker Carlson, get them to Auron, Take somebody who's listening to Oren and get him to Daryl. You know, you only need to get. The filter only goes one way. And you might just not only enlighten their minds, but save their lives. So that's what I would ask people to do.

[C]

I know De went over this really quick. What he was saying is his Telegram channel, if you get the Telegram app out of the App Store, either the Apple App Store, the Apple App Store or the, the, the Android App Store. His channel is going to be censored. You won't be able to see it. You won't be able to open it even with the link. Go to the Telegram website and get the app from there. You can get it for your desktop laptop. I have it on all of everything. My phone, my laptop, my desktop, everything. So that's what he was saying there. All right, well, once again, thank you gentlemen. We'll see how know what the reaction is to this one and hopefully, yeah, hopefully we, we survive this one and don't get completely shut down. But we'll, we'll see. We'll see what happens. I'm sure after the last one, people could just be. Could assume that maybe we couldn't top that one. But hopefully this conversation, let's. Let's not even think about top stopping it. Let's just think about trying to give people things to think about and hopefully to push them over the edge and pass the gatekeeping Dennis Pragers of the world and to true independent thought and independent speech. So yeah, that's all I have to say. Thank you, gentlemen.

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