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The Thought Crime Syndicate Complete (So Far) w/ Bonus - Part 2
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Participation may vary. All right, here we go. Unfortunately, Charles Badil isn't here today. And de. You missed last time. And Tim Kelly sat in for you. I thought he did a. He did a great job. Wish. Wish we could have had you there.
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De
Oh, it would have been nice.
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Pete
Yeah.
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De
Tim's the best of us, man.
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Pete
Tim.
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De
I. I hold Tim in the highest regard.
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Pete
So. Yeah. Wonderful program.
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De
Anyone should ever go back and listen to it if they haven't already.
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Pete
Oh, yeah. And listen to our interesting times. It's probably. I had a friend say this. I don't know if I've said this before, but she said when I was listening to Alex Jones, I should have been listening to Tim Kelly. And I thought that that was 100
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Jose
co. Sign that message.
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Pete
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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De
Unlike Jones, Tim isn't hysterical. Yeah, he's. He's. He's. He'll admit that there's conspiracies.
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Stormy
This is.
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De
This is the. The, you know, the. We'll get into this later. But you know, the whole like. Oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Well, are there conspiracies? You know, Tim will just ask the question. Well, is there a conspiracy? Is five guys getting in a room deciding the fate of like, you know, the. The Fed meeting and saying this is what interest rates will be. That's a conspiracy. And Tim will just go through and talk about actual things that have provably actually happened. And then lo and behold, he'll find every single time. Every single time.
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Jose
Yeah, I liked my interview with him. He's one of the few conspiracy People, in my opinion, that is able to talk about issues of the national question race and any just anti white topic in a very cogent manner. Because my experience in the conspiracy fold, which has been like since day one, when I entered politics, I was very much adjacent to that fold, is that they very much believe in a lot of the civic religion of the civil rights revolution and all that nonsense. And Tim's one of the few people that's able to refute that and operate under much more solid priors, in my opinion.
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Pete
I thought I switched the camera on so Jose didn't feel all alone.
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Jose
I'm not the only face fag here.
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Pete
All right, so let's jump into this. I know De. After the LP convention, you and I were texting and you had some comments on that. So go right ahead. Maybe some comments that probably no one's heard before sound all key.
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Charles
Like,
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De
and, and this is someone who was formerly a registered libertarian. You know, like, like I'm not anti libertarian. I still hold, you know, Rothbud and Rockwell and, and I, I, I find Lou Rock, Lou Rockwell's a hero. I, I find Ray Rothbard to be, you know, someone I admire great very much. Ludo Mises, you know, like, even though there's the, like, there's a lot valuable there.
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Pete
I don't want to.
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De
I'm such a nerd. I have hard copies of Tom, Tom woods books from before meltdown. Like, I have multiple copies of Tom woods books that like, I was a fan of Tom Woods 20 years ago. And, and this isn't so I'm not coming from a place of like hating libertarians, but this convention shows you
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Jose
why
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De
the idea is a failure. If Chase Oliver can be free, you will not be free. The people who, you know, if Thomas Jefferson is going to be free, then other people are going to need to be oppressed. And this is just the way it is. And you know, many years ago in a different. In the chat Charles and I met in actually I destroyed Stefan Molyneux in five steps. And I'll just give it to you guys real quick. If you accept that genes are real and that they influence behavior, which everyone does, right? And you accept that those genes will necessarily seek to propagate themselves, right? Then inferior high time preference genes are going to constantly seek to parasite off of low time preference peoples,
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Stormy
and in
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De
order to keep them from destroying everything you've built, you're going to have to keep them out aggressively and thus violating the nap, you're just gonna have to be able to like, do the, you know, the Family Guy meme with the color card and be like, oh, you're darker than Jose.
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Pete
You have to leave.
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De
Right?
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Pete
Like, right.
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De
You're just gonna have to do that
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Jose
because
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De
the nap is a great idea if everyone's like, German, English, and Scottish. But you can't do that if you're going to have a bunch of sexual perverts and drug users and people in unconventional relationships and other. Other stuff like that, and people who don't work for a living in your society.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Like Dave Smith, who I like a lot, actually. I listened to his podcast that, you know, that's. That's kind of what generated this discussion. As I was listening to the podcast, and some dude who's in a thong walks up to the guy who was like, who would have walked away with the presidential nomination if he'd wanted it, and says, I want to debate you on immigration,
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Stormy
bruh.
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De
What?
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Pete
Like, I mean, you literally just arrest your rest him right there and you take him to jail.
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De
Yeah, yeah, you're. You're right. Like, wear a shirt with a collar at least, for goodness sakes, man. Like, you know, it's. It's really not complicated. And this is. This is this notion that everyone deserves to be free, and this is just not true.
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Pete
Right.
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De
You know, Angela McArdle? I've never met the lady. I'm sure she's a wonderful person. We're of the same age, you know, both mid, early 40s, whatever. I guess she's, you know, like. Like the best thing she could have been doing for liberty is spend your entire 20s having kids rather than wasting time in political activism.
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Pete
Right.
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Jose
This is.
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De
This is the truth.
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Pete
Right?
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De
If you. You want to. You want freedom to spread. Make freedom make people who are capable of being free. The majority population of the United States stop subsidizing the people who aren't capable of being free.
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Jose
How.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Libertarians. Well, I'm really concerned about the drug war. Like, if you have awakened big habit, you're a slave to weed, you're not free. St. Augustine had this nailed 1700 years ago. You have as many masters as you do vices. And unfortunately for the Libertarian Party, you just nominated a dude who thinks the anus is a sex organization. You're never going to, like, this is not freedom. You know, this.
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Charles
This fails.
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De
Like, basic. This isn't, you know, traditionals. This is basic Kantian, you know, moralist, Like. Like, everyone acted like Chase Oliver. The entire society would fall apart and die in one generation. That's the problem with Keynesian Economics, it's the problem with any, any position of responsibility where you put somebody who's lives a degenerate lifestyle. And I'm not trying to pick on people as such, like, oh, like you don't have 10 kids, obviously you're not fit to be in charge. Like, no, no, no, that's not, that's not what I'm saying. There are people who live perfectly decent lives who for whatever reason just didn't have kids. Maybe they had a hormone issue or whatever. That's not it. Right. The, the problem is the way these people live their lives of indulgence in vice as the reason they're libertarians. You know, I was a libertarian because I was tired of paying taxes and I hated the central bank. I'm still tired of paying taxes and I still hate the central bank. I'm just not a retard about how like the necessity of like having a society. So I'm a little bit less hostile to the central bank because someone's going
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Charles
to print the money.
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De
But these, this idea that Hans Herman Hoppe and Dude in thong at meeting share the same is ridiculous. It's absurd. And, and anyone decent left in the Libertarian Party. I know there are a lot of you guys out there listening. Just ask yourself if you had your, you know, libertarian Mount Rushmore and there's Thomas Jefferson and Ludwig von Mises and Lou Rockwell and Hans Hoppe. Ask yourself if like dude who thinks it's appropriate to show up to a meeting stoned out of his gourd and wearing a thong belongs in the same conversation. And as those guys. And they don't. Obviously they don't. It's absurd to think that. And, and once you understand it, like, not only is this guy not capable of being free for himself, he needs to be kept from making decisions for other people because they're all going to be. His priorities are bad.
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Pete
Well, this is the inherent issue with the non aggression principle is that, you know, as long as somebody's not hurting you or taking your stuff, everything's fine. But it's not. And that's, that's what the direct, the deracinated individual, which is something I'm reading through Israel Shahak's Jewish history, Jewish religion now, and he doesn't come out and criticize, use this as a criticism. He just explicitly says it. He says any society built upon individualism that isn't nationalist is easily subverted. It's easily subverted. Any society whose government is degenerate is easily subverted. And now he's saying this as a Jew, as an Israeli Jew. He's saying this about Jews, but it could be anyone.
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Stormy
Yeah.
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Jose
One thing that is always kind of like perplexed me about libertarians in retrospect is like how economically reductionist they are, but then like don't realize that certain types of behaviors have insane negative externalities for like the rest of society. Especially when you allow like butt banditry and all this stuff to become pervasive in society. You're just asking for heightened degrees of like instability and just total like social breakdown further down the line. It's just something that is never really like that.
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De
I mean, Jose, you and I both came up in the gun, gun rights thing, right? Like, yeah, and, and, and you, you'll have all these people be like, guns are for everybody, including you know, 85 IQ morons from gang bangers in Philadelphia. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This, this is absolutely a dumb idea. Like a sane society says applies that same, you know, Peter Griffin color test and says, can you buy a guy? Maybe, you know, like, but, but certainly not, right? This whole idea, like, like we've talked about it before, but yeah, white Americans have the crime rate of Belgium. The, the people committing all the crime, all the crime in New York City are black and Hispanics. Yeah, Mestizo gang bangers, like not Hispanics, like Pete's Hispanic.
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Pete
Right?
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De
Like, like Spaniards and Portuguese. There's not like, you know, it's, it's Indio and, and, and black gang bangers committing almost all like 90% of the crime in New York City. And of course, right, You've seen multiple cases over the last few days. You know, 13 year old held at gunpoint by. Or knife point by. And raped by, you know, migrants. And Right. It's across the United States and across Europe and the libertarian is sitting here. Well, Borders are a spook, man. And like they should violate the nap. Like no, no, no, you need to find everybody who's committed a felony who's a foreigner, right? They're not an American citizen. Everyone who's committed a violent felony, they just need to be shot. They're committing war on the United States. Foreigners who kill people in the United States are waging war on the United States, period.
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Pete
Right?
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De
That's like 30 or 40 of our federal prisons. Boom, gone. Population reduced. And if you're like, oh, that's the state to be, okay, then either you're gonna do it or people are gonna. How do you think the mafia became a thing in Sicily
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Pete
Right.
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Jose
It's also one of the few groups that's like, reproducing like rabbits. So, like, your society is gonna, like, freaking become insanely dysgenic with. Within a matter of time.
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Pete
Right? Right.
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De
Well, here's the thing. 115 IQ artiste who's at the Libertarian National Convention, like, let me. I speak your language. I'm even putting on my bow tie, so I speak your language. Let me translate real world to you, okay? You think about externalities and market conditions and other things before you have kids. Dumb people don't think at all. And then they get subsidies to have more burdens on you. So you're sitting here thinking, well, I don't know about the market conditions and what about private school and all these other things? Right. If it weren't for Brown v. Board of Education, see our Race Warren High School series. You could send your kids to public school. They could teach Latin and calculus in public schools again, if you had standards for the students who entered those public schools. That's the reason we teach, you know, remedial math in college now, isn't that everyone's gotten dumber. It's that more dumb people have entered college. Well, I mean, we have gotten dumber on the whole. Right, but so if you.
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Jose
Yeah, we're saying.
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De
And. And you have to accept. Right. And the thing that cured me of being a libertarian, you know, 15 years ago was like, reading the Bell Curve and understanding that this didn't apply to everybody. And I became a neo reactionary around 2007.
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Pete
Right. And. And
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De
A friend of me, friend of mine asked me. Pretty prominent guy actually asked me, like, Pete went hard and, like, what happened? It's like, well, 2020 cleared. Cured Pete of the delusion that certain people want to be free. Like, after 2020, you still think that, oh, everyone just wants to be free and everyone wants to be peaceful. And you.
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Pete
Well, it's not only. It's not only that, it's not only that people don't want to be free, it's that other people want to suppress people who want to be free. The people who possess the mental capacity and the IQ to actually operate within society without becoming gang bangers and criminals. They don't like those people. And if there are people in this society who will actively seek the means to suppress or to even, you know, try to. Somebody posted, I guess they did a long clip from that new movie, Civil War, and it's the one where the guy has the. Has the glasses on. Jesse, Jesse Plemons. He's a. An actor, and he's like, asking people, what kind of American are you? And he shoots one guy, he shoots another guy. The three people who say they're from Montana, I think, you know, like three different separate states, he leaves them alone and everything. And people are like, this is what Trump wants for America. And somebody made the comment that's what you wanted for people who wouldn't get the jab.
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De
Yeah.
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Pete
So sitting around and waiting for those people to gain even more power. No, I'm not doing that anymore.
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De
Well, and not only that, right? And I was talking with the fairly prominent conservative writer. I'll talk to you guys offline, local county, GOP thing. And I ran into some guy that's. Anyway. But not only have we been completely vindicated, right? The night the 9th Circuit comes out and says this isn't a vaccine, right? AstraZeneca is being sued. They pulled all these things, you know, like, like it. It conclusively harms people, all this stuff, right? You know, I could just bathe in confirmation bias for the rest of my life for this sort of stuff. But these same people that wanted to, you know, make sure that I couldn't go to a restaurant, that I. That I was going to lose my job, that I wasn't going to be permitted to drive from one state to the next, whatever, right? The same people that, like, had, you know, killed people I know, because they couldn't get cancer treatment, right? I'm supposed to just forget that. And these same people, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry, sorry. You. You need to be rusticated. Charles Haywood has it completely, right? Like, you are bad at making decisions and you need to stop. You don't need to. You don't get to touch the public fisc. Or the public policy anymore ever, because you're bad at it. And Chase Oliver is bad because he's a sexual pervert who's very worried about diseases and. And, like, you know, he Was all for the masking. Well, as long as it's private, like, you're not fit to be free. I'm sorry that you were abused when you were 12 or 13 or whatever it was, because you were, and you know it. And the second. The second you people are honest about it, you know, we're in the middle of June, right? The month of the Sacred Heart that's been totally. The month that used to be for weddings is now all about chases. Real people, right. If he had to choose between free people and gay people, what would he choose? He'd choose gay people every single time. Because that's what actually matters to him.
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Pete
Right.
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De
He's a libertarian because he likes sexual degeneracy.
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Pete
Yeah.
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Jose
Likes poop dick, basically.
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De
Well, I wasn't gonna be that crude, but go ahead. Like, yeah, go off king. Right. Like. And that's the thing that people need to understand is that this is not like a dis. You know, Pete thinking we should pay 17 taxes and Jose thinking we should pay 19, and me being, like, a total status being like, no, it needs to be 23. This isn't that kind of disagreement. The three of us could live together in a society.
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Pete
This is civilizational.
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De
Right.
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Pete
And.
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De
And Chase can't. And I'm not picking on him in particular because I dislike the guy or whatever. I'm sure he's very fairly affable person, but he doesn't understand the way civilizations can actually work.
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Pete
Right?
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De
Like, we're in real trouble. We are in real, like, no trouble. At any moment, World War III could spark off because insane Jews in the neo neocon Jews in the State Department have literally picked a fight with the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranians, Hezbollah, and at the same time. And Hamas, like, Like, like they've picked. And at the same time that they've done that, they've let tens of millions of people into the country. And you have no idea. Hamas could have agents in freaking Washington, D.C. right now who are under deep cover who could, you know, bomb the Capitol. And I'm not saying that they do, and I'm not saying they don't, but they could. There's no controls. You have no idea.
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Jose
Yeah. You know, that's the logical endpoint of invade the world, invite the world. The blowback comes to your freaking country through mass migration.
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De
Ron Paul was completely right about this.
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Pete
Right?
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De
You know, you've. You've invited all of these people, right? Like, and. And. And now, right. You know, oh, they want to destroy free speech on campuses because the. The very thing that we said was going to happen when you invited a bunch of Arabs into our country. Like they will resent you. They will not like us. They do not want this. Now they're here and they're complaining because you're killing their cousins. Well, who, who let them in the first place? Emmanuel Seller. It wasn't, wasn't my Scots Irish ass that let these people in. So again, these people can't be free. Jews can't be free because the second they're free, they undermine and subvert and destroy their societies. And it's not me saying that. It's Israel Shahak saying that. It's you gentiles. It's, it's everything that they've ever said. They destroy the host society of the place that they're living in because they're more comfortable in a multicultural mess. It's Barbara Learned Respect. They're saying that. It's not me. I'm just repeating what they've said to me.
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Jose
Yeah, make New York the global standard. That's like for them. Like they want to create facilities of all that across the globe.
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Pete
Yeah. I think the, the idea that we can have civilization and it be multicultural, multi ethnic. I mean even Aristotle, you know, preached against multi ethnic societies just devolving into chaos. And I don't know where we're at now. The question is America was founded by Scots and English and unfortunately they dragged a bunch of Dutch secularists with them here on the first ship, the Mayflower, not the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria. The first person who actually came off of Columbus's ships was a Sephardic Jew, Louis de Torres. But the idea that we can then it was, okay, we're going to invite Europe, we're going to invite white Europe here. And white Europe came here. And then we have the Emancipation Proclamation, we have the war. At the end of the war, instead of doing the nice thing and sending these slaves back, sending them somewhere where they could prosper with their own Haiti, places like that. They left them here and weaponized them. As George Bagby talked about. They were weapon, you know, they were groups in New Orleans that own newspapers that were openly calling for the massacre and the genocide of newspapers. Yeah, yeah.
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De
No, they were right. And, and, and they were black and
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Pete
they were actually black owned newspapers which is really, you know, lets, you know how we should have, you know, about that whole Louisiana Purchase thing. What we were bought. What we were buying.
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De
Well, we were buying trouble. And, and again.
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Pete
Right.
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De
This is not. Oh, pizza, you know, mindless bigot like. No, no, no, no, I'm post Judas. I'm not prejudiced. I'm post Judas. I'm very like, we've had half a century of the 1965 Immigration act. Has Los Angeles. Has Dallas gotten better? Has Houston gotten better? We're, you know, 1965.
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Pete
The only time that it gets better is when white people move into neighborhoods in those cities and gentrify them. Yep.
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De
Right, right. But if you move out as white flight, which, I mean, if I'm being perfectly honest, I'm probably the leading scholar of at this point. And it's not, not because I'm a genius, just because most people aren't honest about it. It's not like when you move back in, it's, you know, when you separate yourself, it's white fortress. Like there's no winning.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Because. And this is where the errors are made. Right. The very, you know, Ryan Falk. I think it's Ryan Falk. It might have been shown last, you know, has that chart over time of like tax net taxes paid over time by group. Right. And blacks are like negative $900,000 and Hispanics are like negative $650,000. And white people are like a positive hundred thousand dollars. Right. No matter where you go, if they're very dependent, is like remoras will always follow sharks. Always. And they. And the sharks actually get something out of that relationship. What do we get as Americans from all letting all these people in? Nothing. Like, oh, cheap vegetables.
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Charles
I.
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Pete
What another thing that Shahak said in the book was he. He made the point of when a government starts hating its people. And when a government starts hating its people, obviously there's disorder, there's disunity, and that allows outside influences to come in and just take over. And you had mentioned earlier, I don't remember if it was you or Jose about Hamas actually being here. And people think of that and they're like, well, I know Hamas probably isn't as well financed as China. Definitely not. But we've had Chinese spies being the chauffeurs of senators, having relationships with sitting, sitting politicians, sitting lawmakers to believe that infiltration can't be had. And especially infiltration where you just walk over the border and then you just wait. I mean, the 911 hijackers came here on planes. Yeah, on planes. But the immigration's a political tool. Yeah.
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De
There's a massive Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles right now. Right. And you can say, oh, that's all the, all the anti revolution people. You think that, like, you think that they're not smart Enough to slip in a couple people have them mouth all the things they need to say about how much they hate, hate the Supreme Leader and they hate Islam and they're secularists and just LARP for 10 years while they, you know, and. Or right. The Chinese, if they, the Chinese basically own Vancouver.
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Pete
Yeah.
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De
Okay, Vancouver is not that far. Like if they take over Vancouver, how hard is it to get to Seattle? How hard. How many, how many Chinese are in San. How many Indians are in.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Like can you tell the difference between Indians can tell amongst themselves. But like there, there are Indian Muslims. How hard it would be to slip a couple Pakistani fanatics who were, you know, dirt complected into the check scene in Washington state or Oregon or San Francisco. Like, and I'm not saying, right, and like those people who are hostile to us and for good reasons, I'm not saying that they're wrong to be hostile to the United States. The more you learn about our foreign policy in the last, you know, 30 years, right. The more you're like, wow, we've killed a lot of Muslims for no damn reason whatsoever.
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Pete
Right.
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Jose
Like
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De
on be on behalf of that one small state.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Like or out of ethnic present. Like the whole Balkans war was basically a ethnic resentment on their part of like they, they hate Slavic peasants and the whole war in Ukraine right now is because they hate Slavic beans. They're ass mad from a pogrom 375 years ago. Would recommend pizza with Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson about that. But like this is right. That's who's in charge of America. And we're supposed to just treat everybody as if they're the same. And this is why, you know, like libertarianism is a failure, right. You can't have everyone be equally free in a society where people aren't equally capable of being free. In a society where almost everyone was like British or Northern European and the economy was structured around small holdings and small businesses, then, yeah, you could be free. But in a site the, the prominent Republican I was talking to,
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Tyler Redick
one of
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De
the reasons the 2020 election was so easy to steal is effectively there are no such. This is again, one of the problems with China is there's no such thing as a private economy. Look at the 50 biggest or the biggest employer in every state. It's either Walmart in like 24 states, it's university systems in like six or seven other states, it's hospital systems in six or seven other states. It's Denver International Airport in Colorado, Boeing in Washington state. Like grocery stores. Okay, Walmart if You took away the EBT money. Walmart goes out of business. If you take away the Walmart's ability to foist their employees wages off on public assistance, Walmart goes out of business. There's no such thing as, you know, when Medicare and Medicaid is 35 or 40% of their revenues as a private hospital system, right? So every major employer is effectively subsidized by the government. And that's one of the insights of Mussolini that like the whole idea of this free economy is. It's nonsense. The state is going to take a major, major role in every post industrial economy in the world. Like it just is. There's not any way around that yet. If you can find one, write the book and we'll like. Good for you. But under present conditions, there's no such thing as private economies. Well, in every major city in America, right? You've got your hospitals, those are government jobs. You've got your major universities, those are government jobs. How to have fun anytime, anywhere. Step 1 Go to chumbacasino.com chumbacasino.com Got it. Step 2 Collect your welcome bonus. Come to papa. Welcome bonus. Step 3 Play hundreds of casino style games for free. That's a lot of games all for free.
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Jose
A lot.
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De
And maybe, maybe even a majority. And under those conditions, the people being subsidized are never going to vote to cut their own throat. They're never going to vote for freedom. They're never going to say, well you know, I mean, I know I'm employed in local public schools, but, but this is ridiculous. We're spending $20,000 a student and we're getting no results. We should just destroy public schools. Like, no, they're never going to vote that way. So they're not fit to be free. They're not, they're never going to be free. They're all, they're dependent on the public school system existing and you know, Anthony Fauci's son in law, I think Pete's talked, or Tim has talked about this, right? Like his son in law produces like DEI curriculum for public schools and makes millions of dollars. So it is right, like this guy has made a fortune off of hating white people. I, I'm, you know, like if my children were married to people who made millions of dollars off of hating, you know, hating white people, I'm not going to be pro white in public. Are you kidding me? Like, that's, that's, that's my grandchildren set for life because their dad wrote some sort of, you know, BS manual about how like colonization and oppression. So when he went to the people who are complaining about this stuff, like, no, he's just in, he just gets power from hating white people. I think it was faulty's son in law or whatever like this. So the conditions don't exist for these people to be free. And in order to, for the conditions to re emerge where people can be free, you're gonna have to oppress the out of a bunch of people. Now I think that reality is going to do that. I'm not interested in like, you know, hunting people down and making them do what I want. Making everyone dress in Hugo Boss and margin step and stuff like that. But this idea that freedom is just like this naturally emergent property that spontaneously happens. Like, like they used to think that, you know, you know, spoiled grain, spontaneously generated rats like, like, you know, like you, you hand a dude like a knife and the in drop them off in the woods and spontaneously constitutional government and freedom like just sprout like flowers in the spring, bruh. No, they don't. Like, like whatever you're smoking, it's good stuff and you should probably stop because it's just not true.
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Pete
Well, it's the whole idea, the libertarian idea is economics and private property. And basically you see what happens when your country becomes an economic zone, when it becomes an economic zone, somebody has to step in in order to order it. And when you have a free market zone, which people will say, oh, it's not a free market because the government stepped in, this is chicken egg shit. Okay, stop it, stop it. You're always going to have someone to order it. The only Thing is, does the person doing the ordering, do they look like you and do they sound like you and do they believe the same things that you believe? Sure, there's going to be some graft, but if these people aren't even from here, if they don't have allegiances to us, if they don't have allegiances to anyone in this country except this one little 2% of the population, what do you expect? What do you expect? I mean, you expect you're going to build civilization off of private property and economics. Why? Because you're going to have a covenant community when you've already admitted that the communists can have a covenant community over there? What are they going to be planning the whole time to show up to
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De
your house and take your stuff? Yeah, well, and, and you've let them have guns. And, and, and this is, this is their one delusion.
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Pete
I've talked enough.
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Jose
One thing I've noticed over time observing a lot of libertarians is also that they're not talking about voluntary association or freedom of association any longer, which is one of the pillars of an orderly society where you can actually exclude people from your venues, from your house and all that stuff.
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Pete
But they don't want to exclude the hope, they don't want to exclude the homosexuals. They want to exclude people who have opinions like us.
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Jose
Yeah, yeah, they're like, have bought into like the hyper inclusivity mindset of like the ruling class. And I just think this is a total recipe for disaster. Like, I mean, just look at it like on almost like a personal level, like if you let anybody into your freaking social circle, like, that's just asking for all sorts of trouble and apply that to like a macrocosmic level and it's, it's just a civilizational disaster. But yeah, I've just noticed that they, you don't really hear a lot of this freedom of association when it comes to like, controversial lifestyles or people where like, you have every right to kick people, expel people that don't align with your values and whatnot, but like, they instead they want to kick out people like us. But I just think that, for example, and some of these people go, go so far as to support forced integration as well. I've come across numerous beltway and normie libertarians that buy into a lot of the civil rights revolution and like Shelley v. Kramer precepts of forced integration as well. So these people have really bought into like, hook, line and sinker, into the regime's holy sacraments.
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Pete
And even if they haven't done it consciously, they've done it unconsciously. You know, it's like I, it's like I've said this before. I've said, you know, you have people, this isn't going to happen, but you have people who have these dreams of deporting every Jew in the country. Look, that's not going to happen. And even if it did, their influences everywhere, there are influences in education, in the banking, in economics, in Hollywood, in the culture. We're talking about a hard reset here. Yeah.
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De
There can be no tolerance of Democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They must have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there could be no tolerance towards those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They, the advocates of alternative non family kin centered lifestyles, such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature, environment worship, homosexuality or communism will have to be physically removed from society too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.
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Pete
Sounds familiar. Yeah.
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Charles
Yep, very familiar.
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De
Right, so this is, this is the man who did more to any than anyone, Hans Herman Hoppe in 2001.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Like, and in the Libertarian Party, because it's unable to draw these distinctions. Like, okay, Hans just invented feudalism. Good job. Like government by property owners is just feudalism. Right, like that's, and that's fine, right? That, that worked for thousands of years. Feudalism or variants thereof has worked for thousands of years. This, this universal franchise democratic republic has barely hung on for half a century and it's falling apart. So when it's the king's road, maybe the king makes sure that the road stays paved.
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Stormy
But
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De
they're also, like Jose was saying, you know, they're unable to discriminate. They have all these ideas about who should be let in and who should be kept out. Like they want to keep us out. Right? Like if, if, you know, you tried to go, like if we, if the three of us tried to go into Pork Fest, right, we'd be like told to leave. Which, fine, like, I don't want to be around those people anyway. But they're so confused. Like, I don't want to hang out with weed smokers. I find the habit distasteful. I find that what it does to people. I don't want it around my kids. I don't want it, you know, and I'm told I can't keep those people out of my life if I just, if I just said like, you know, well, personally, yeah, but you can't like not do business with them. Like, well, why not?
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Pete
Right?
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De
These are, these are the people. Like, I can't engage. I can't keep out Democrats, Communists, you know, environmental worshipers, you know, the people who spray paints. I think the people who spray paint do things like spray paint Stonehenge should be beaten with sticks.
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Pete
Oh, yeah, right.
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De
Like,
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Jose
right.
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De
Like you want to just stop oil. You know, you want to make, like, then, then make it so you can discriminate on the basis of housing against. If you don't have to drive 80 miles to get to and from work so that we're not dependent on cars. Like, all of these problems that these people say they want to solve are actually solvable. If you're honest about things as basic as race, sex and like, race, sex, nature of the Jewish question, all these things, they're solvable problems. But if you lie about like one and one being two, and you're like, no, one in one is 2.75, because I felt like it. You're going to get wrong answers on everything. And instead of dealing with the reality of like, okay, people who are, you know, the free market, right? Like, okay, well, I, I talked about earlier. Walmart isn't the free market,
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Pete
okay?
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De
We don't have a free market that exists. And you're never gonna, in, in a democratic society, you're never going to get where the largest employers in all 50 states are some form of state. You know, they're, they're some arm of the state in some fashion or other, whether the state's been captured or not or whatever, you're never going to get, via democratic means the people to go back to a civil, to a free society because their rice bowl is going to get taken away. And people don't want that. So therefore you're gonna have to do something authoritarian and unfree to get the free society that you want. And if you're gonna have to do something authoritarian to make things work, where, where do you. The only question then is who's authoritarianism and who's getting oppressed? And for a lot of these people, right, they want authoritarianism for normal people in favor of unnormal people. You know, in Spokane, Washington, right, Like, people can ride their scooters across the, you know, weirdo rainbow thing, and they're going to get, they're going to get arrested. Well, 50 years ago, normal people arrested the dude in a dress walking down the street. And now the dude in a dress gets to like it does. Someone is getting oppressed. There is no such thing as a Secular State. I don't think it's been published yet, but I had a Great conversation with 2 bit podcast Jason and, and we talked about some of this stuff, right? There's no such thing as a secular society or in McIntyre's book. Everyone needs to read it. Total State. It's really good. I mean, this isn't anything I didn't know, but I still learned stuff from reading it. The idea of a religiously indifferent society is nonsense. This libertarian idea of like, we're going to just. Everyone's going to choose like, no, no,
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Charles
no, no, no, no.
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De
That worked when you were like, everyone is a northern European Christian who basically believes in the nation creed. And then we can kind of work from there. But when you have, you know, a million Hindus who worship demons coming to, you know, Washington state, they're never gonna, like, they're never gonna.
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Pete
Right.
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De
You know, and, and 500, you know, or what, 50 million mestizos who, you know, worship demons. And when, when you're like, I really care about the rights of a dude who has the I murder people tattoo on his forehead and you're complaining about the human rights of that guy instead of like, well, I'm really worried about like the oppression under naive Bukele of these gangs that like rape people and murder people and, and extort people and they have the. Have the I murder people tattoo on their forehead and they have, you know, 666 tattooed on your forehead. Like, if you have that tattooed on your forehead, I'm just gonna believe you and throw you in prison.
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Pete
Because I, I had one of those libertarians the other day went pointed out, but Kelly, you know, posting up some article about, you know, some allegedly innocent kid who got caught up in all this. And I'm like, you just want people dead. You just, you, you want the murder to keep on going. How do you deal with this? How do you. I mean, this is probably somebody who lives in a state that's 95 white.
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De
Well, and this, this notion, this is, this is the thing that again, libertarians, they can't deal with things in trenches. It's all like binary. It's either like, well, everyone's free or nobody's free.
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Pete
Right.
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De
They're Satanists in MS.13. They sacrifice children to the devil in MS.13. You can't live with those people. Okay? In Jason's great line, we don't live in a civilization anymore. More, we don't build beautiful things we don't have. There's no carrying this forward through time because people don't get married and don't have kids. And what, what can you point to, right, that we like, oh, well, this, this, this I bequeath unto you, my son. Go forth therefore, and do likewise. Bequeath this unto my grandchildren and my great grandchildren, my great great grandchildren. I won't even see that. They'll be able to point and say, my great great great grandfather planted those trees, and you, my son, get to sit underneath those trees and do the same thing. You know, like, there's none of that going on. And the reason there's none of that going on is we're being attacked and taxed and, and, and parasited off of constantly by people who didn't build the civilization in the first place. And we're told that these other people showing up at our house to eat our food and sleep in our living room have just as much a right to that stuff as our own children. And it's ridiculous.
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Pete
We've been going about almost 50 minutes, getting pretty deep and everything. You want to watch something? That's somebody who was trying to tell us something about 30 years ago, but also has a really good sense of humor about it and has a good sense of humor about him. And we can listen to this and stop it as we go through to comment. I have an audio that I resurrected of Sam Francis at the Rothbard Rockwell Conference from 1995, November, and I think it's poignant. I think people should hear this, which is about immigration and what he was saying. Technically, 29 and a half years ago. You want to switch over to that and listen to that.
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De
Sam is always worth the listen.
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Pete
All right, Speech was called, and apparently Sam, he's going to say he submitted the speech, and then Lew Rockwell picks the title of it. So let's get this going here. Let me make sure. Let me unshare this real quick just to make sure that it's. That the audio is working, because sometimes it does. You have to check that audio works. All right, good. All right, let's start listening to this. And stop. Any scream at me to stop anytime and I'll pause it. All right. Slam the golden Door.
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Tyler Redick
Francis it's always an honor to be asked to speak to the annual RRR conference. And one of the interesting things about speaking at them is that Lew Rockwell always picks the titles of your speech. They're usually very good titles, but it's always interesting to see if the speaker understands them in the same sense that Lou did, let alone whether the audience understands either one of us. In the case of the title, Slam that Golden Door, I think I'm correct in assuming that Lou did not want me to attack the gold standard. The golden Door, of course, comes from the last line of one of Lou's favorite poems, the one by Emma Lazarus on the Statue of Liberty. The line that reads, I lift my lamp beside the golden door. The golden door meaning presumably, the gateway to the utopia of goodies that the European immigrants expected to find in the United States. The statue, of course, never had anything to do with the open borders policy that it was hijacked to symbolize. It was intended simply as a commemoration of our national independence and our Republican liberty. But Ms. Lazarus poem written well before the erection of the statue was the agent of the hijacking, as Stephen Birmingham explains in his book Our Crowd on the Jewish Families of New York. She wrote the poem as an effort to raise funds for putting the statue up, but because she was by background a Sephardic Jew, and because many of the recent Jewish immigrants to the United States were German and East European Jews, the latter regarded her line about the wretched refuse of your teeming shores to be a nasty crack about them.
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Pete
Our civilization's always going to just be about inter Jewish fighting.
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De
They weren't wrong, though. I mean, if you've ever been in a Hasidic neighborhood. Oof. It smells, man. Yeah, yeah.
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Jose
It's the story of the West. It's basically like the only people with political that can do engage in political debates and actually have make concrete public policies are the redacted so, yeah.
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Tyler Redick
So the result was that the money raised to put up the Statue of Liberty was largely collected among Sephardic Jews who had come to this country earlier, and the German and East European Jews tended to boycott fundraising campaign. The irony of this story, of course, is that a statue and a memorial hijacked to celebrate immigration and the assimilationist ideal of the melting pot was actually an occasion for ethnic resentment. And despite the eventual assimilation of most European immigrants of the 19th century, that kind of ethnic conflict is in fact the major effect of of uncontrolled immigration. And that is precisely why we should slam the golden door and erase Miss Lazarus goopy doggerel from what ought to be an inspiring monument to American Republican liberty. Immigration policy, of course, is now a major political issue, and nowhere more so than in the state where we are meeting, whose citizens have done so much to make it a national issue. Through passage of Proposition 187 last year, Prop. 187 passed overwhelmingly, despite the concerted opposition of the Republicans and the Democrats and the establishment media, and despite the threats of violence to many of the grassroots activists who worked so hard for it. Ever since then, immigration reform has been muttered about in the Gingrich Congress, though nothing has been done about it. Both Gingrich and Dick army, as well as the Clinton administration, are opposed to controlling legal immigration at all, and our beloved neoconservative friends are militantly opposed to any reform. Indeed, as Morton Kondraki wrote in his column in Roll Call last year, it was William Crystal, now editor of the neoconservative Weekly Reader excuse me, I mean the Weekly Standard, Who persuaded Jack Kemp and Bill Bennett that it would be a terrific idea for them to come out against 187 on the eve of the election. It was, in fact, a terrific idea because more than anything else, the Kemp BENNETT Denunciation of 187 led to the collapse of their political careers. As an encore, the same three have been pushing the Colin Powell candidacy, which has now turned out to be even more of a bigger bomb for them than the earlier brainstorm. The perfidy of neoconservatives in the Republican establishment on immigration was bad enough, but even worse was the conduct of our own government in the wake of the 187 victory. After massive concerted intimidation by Mexicans in the United States against Californians who supported the proposition, and after open intervention against the proposition by the Mexican government itself, itself, including its own diplomats in California, the US Ambassador in Mexico City actually apologized to the Mexican government for the passage of 187. And soon afterwards, several other Latin American diplomats also denounced the United States for permitting it to pass. I don't know what they thought we were supposed to do about it. It was a state measure and discussed having it invalidated by the United nations and the world Court. Of course, our own government did nothing to protest Mexican intervention in our internal affairs and politics. And where immigration is concerned, that's par for the course. Even after passage of 187, the courts lost no time in declaring it unconstitutional, and school officials in California announced they wouldn't obey it anyway. I mention these incidents because they show the deep division in our society over the immigration issue. The elites, whether political or cultural or judicial, are for immigration, while the vast majority of the American people are opposed to it. 187, you'll remember, passed overwhelmingly by about 60% or more than that, even though polls supposedly showed that it might.
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De
So this was 30 years ago. And of course, the. The judge who invalidated Prop. 187 was a member of the tribe. Have you looked at California's public finances lately? They're a mess. And almost the entirety of California's public fiscal problems, whether that's collapsing infrastructure, sky high housing prices, public schools that are overcrowded and unusable, hospital system that doesn't function any longer, and, you know, like across the board, illegal immigration is, if not the overwhelming cause, the plurality of the problem. And you can, you know, other people have done the analysis, you can look it up, but we're talking trillions of dollars. Not billions. Trillions of dollars that California has spent in the 30 years since Sam gave this speech. And the people of California, the real Californians, not. Not people who, you know, who's just happened to be born in a free hospital in Los Angeles and then got to vote 18 years later because of a footnote in some stupid Supreme Court decision, right? We are talking trillions of dollars. All of California's problems, you know, oh, we're out of water.
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Jose
Why?
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De
Because there's 50 million people in California, that's why. Why are there 50 million people in California? Because 15 million illegal immigrants have shown up in the last 30 years, for 40 years, right? Why are housing prices ridiculous? Why are people having to drive six hours every day, you know, to and from work, you know, people driving from Bakersfield into Los Angeles, you know, like. And, you know, San Francis was. Was right about everything. You know, everyone needs to read all of his stuff. He was a prophet without honor in his own land. It's a shame he Died so young. But all of the problems in California are because of illegal, illegal immigration and Mexican migration generally, or Asian migration or whatever. Los Angeles used to be known as Puritan. There were so many WASPs in Los Angeles that it was known as Puritanus. And now it's.
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Pete
Can't have that. Yeah, I mean, they're, how are they gonna survive unless they're multicultural. Right.
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De
So it's, it's not just, oh, Sam is saying stuff and he's, he's a resentful, you know. No. Bill Kristol is a psychopath who's agitated for war with Iran for 30 years. His, he, he's failed so spectacular that the Weekly Standard closed. You know, this is not some guy that, like, there's a slight disagreement. This guy hates ordinary Americans. Bill Kristol does. And just as Sam talks, think about what's happened into those intervening 30 years, you know, and is it better or is it worse? It's like when you go to the eye doctor and you get new glasses, right? And they'll do the one and then say, is one better or one worse? Look, look at the lens of what Sam says and then what the mainstream media says and ask yourself, which one's better, which one's worse? And, and Ron Nuns, God bless him, was one of the main movers behind this Prop 187. You know, that's how he first got his start in politics, I think.
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Pete
And. Right.
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De
Look who's behind it and look who's right about things. And I just this. You don't want to know how a nice Scots Irish kid from the middle of the woods became an. A raging anti Semite with fans all over the world. I say that because I have like one fan in Australia and one fan in England.
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Jose
But you probably have a secret global
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De
south following too, possibly. No, I love espanol, so I don't know if I have like Argentinian fans or not. But like, this is why, right, like every single time, right? Emma Lazarus is a Sephardic Jew who puts this stupid, you know, statue poem on a statue. And so my country has to be destroyed. And just. Sam just. It's a, it's a criminal indictment of our ruling class. And I, I've listened to this before, but, you know, anyway,
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Jose
chime in on Prop 187. It does feel quaint. It's been like, well, like 30 years since, like it's, since it's passed. But to add another person that was involved in successfully passing this was the late Justin Raimondo. People tend to forget that apart from his anti war activism, he was a big time immigration patriot and he was very active in the Bay Area trying to push for this measure to be passed. But this does show one other thing too. In this anti white managerial system, organic expressions of democracy where people like what to express like a majoritarian interest, like say for example, halting mass migration could just be completely overturned by the snap of a finger from some freak show judge that is likely, as you said, the a member of the tribe and just like. And there goes your democracy there.
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De
In the case of the 187, like the judge was a Jewish like 100.
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Pete
Yeah. So yeah, well.
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Jose
But yeah, like go ahead. But yeah, like that. This just goes to show that this system, despite what they talk about like sacred democracy, it's just like nonsense because anytime we try to express a majoritarian interest of preserving a euro, a euro America, it just completely gets rescinded by these petty tyrants in the managerial state.
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Pete
What I was going to say is I was just going to do a quick little description of Prop 187. Basically what it said was it prohibited illegal immigrants from using non emergency health care so they could use emergency health care, public education and other services in the state of California. Voters passed it. Now I'm going to share this. Okay, look up here. When you search, when you Google Prop 187, the first thing that comes up is Library of Congress research guides. This is a.gov website. What does it say? 1994, California's Prop 187, a Latin X Resource Guide. And you think your government cares about heritage Americans more than they do people who just walked over the border illegally? A Latin X Resource guide. And that's a government website? Are you insane? I'm gonna start playing Sam again. All right.
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Jose
A government of the people. Duh.
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Pete
Yeah, yeah. Populism. Hey, we're gonna have a populist revolt.
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Jose
We are the government. Like, yeah, totally, bro.
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Tyler Redick
Incidents, because they show the deep division in our society over the immigration issue. The elites, whether political or cultural or judicial, are for immigration, while the vast majority of the American people are opposed to it. 187, you'll remember, passed overwhelmingly by about 60% or more than that, even though polls supposedly showed that it might fail. And many commentators predicted its failure. But at the same time, and for some years now, almost all public opinion polls show that a large majority of Americans of all races and ethnic backgrounds overwhelmingly oppose immigration and want it controlled or even stopped. But despite that clear message of massive popular opposition, immigration largely from third World non European countries continues at the highest levels ever known in American history and is beginning to exert significant long term effects on what America looks like and what America will be in the not too distant future. In 1992, the U.S. census Bureau published a report that spelled out the future demographic features of the United States as a result of present day and projected immigration patterns and the birth rates of the immigrants. The report concluded that by about the year 2050, the Hispanic part of the US population will have grown from 9.4% of the population to 21% that the Asian and Pacific Islander portion will have risen from 3.5% to 10.7% that the black population is projected to almost double from 32 million to 62 million but that the non Hispanic white share of the US population would steadily fall from 75% in 1992 to about 53% in 2050.
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Jose
Oh, in the US lower than that
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De
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Pete
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De
and forgive me for using this word, but Armenians as well.
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Tyler Redick
While non whites and Hispanics will increase by some 120 million between 1992 and 2050, the non Hispanic white population will grow by a mere 11 million in that period. And by the middle of the next century, whites will be on the eve of becoming a minority in the United States. The report finds that non Hispanic whites would contribute nothing to population growth after 2030 because the non Hispanic group would be declining in size. What this means, of course, is that by the middle of the next century, for the first time in American history, the white or European portion of the population which settled North America, founded the United States and has been the dominant core of the American population and American culture from its origins will have become a minority in its own country. The middle of the next century is no longer a date in a science fiction novel. It's less than 60 years away and young children born of white parents in the last couple of years will live to see themselves become a minority in their own country. It is all but unimaginable that this demographic has and racial revolution will not have the most far reaching consequences for the political and cultural future of the United States. And we already see the beginnings of those consequences in what some are already calling the Brazilianization of America. The transformation of the country into a third world society and economy in which a small slice of the population prevails at the top over a mass of economically depressed non whites throughout the rest the of of the society. We also see the consequences in the emergence of an explicit anti white racial consciousness among both native blacks and immigrants, including a bubbling irredentist and separatist movement among Latinos in Southern California and elsewhere. And we see the results of immigration and the rise of multiculturalism in both education and increasingly in private institutions where the heritage of white European Americans is debunked and discarded and European Americans themselves are dispossessed of their country and their culture. Of course there is an alternative view that the United States possesses some inherent or almost magical capacity to absorb and assimilate its immigrants and that that process will continue to work even under the large scale immigration and different birth rates that the Census Bureau reports. The same people who argue for our apparently infinite capacity to assimilate immigrants and claim that the massive infusion of non Westerners will have no cultural effect on the receiving culture also often argue that the immigrants will have a positive cultural effect. That they bring habits of hard work, ambition, religion and the much touted family values to a country and a people that has become lazy and irreligious and licentious.
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Pete
Connect. Pick up on that message at all.
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De
I mean all the time, you know. Oh, the budget deficit, the budget deficit, the budget deficit. Who's causing the budget deficit? Who's causing it? Like you just invited 50 million people who are not tax recipients and don't pay taxes. I just saw something. I'll have to find it like 130. I think it was white papers just published something on Telegram. $138 billion a year in remittances leave this country. That's a. And, and if you.
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Pete
Right.
- [73:43]
De
That's just money that just goes out of the economy. It doesn't circulate. It's just a pure deadweight loss. Remittances from this country.
- [73:50]
Pete
Right.
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De
How many billions of dollars? I don't know. Someone's out there's, probably done the work since this speech, have gone to Mexico, just Mexico by itself because it was like $30 billion per year in remittances. I'll do you one better. I would bet you the rent that $100 billion have left Mexico just from California all by itself. Since this speech was. Was done. Why Is California falling apart? I don't know. A hundred billion dollars just left the state.
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Jose
Yeah, I mean in Central America I'd argue it's even like more pronounced because majority of foreign direct investment, like in countries like Guatemala, like El Salvador, pre Bukele came from remittances because those are even like smaller, like banana republic economies as well.
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Pete
All right, I'm going to keep playing.
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Tyler Redick
Moreover, the cliche of the immigrationists, those who oppose virtually all restrictions on immigration, is that America is after all, a nation of immigrants and that it would be un American, indeed xenophobic or racist to restrict immigration. Yet the fact is that throughout our history the United States has repeatedly restricted immigration in order to select the kind of population and the kind of culture that its people wanted. There is nothing un American about restricting immigration for those reasons. This has been true since since the earliest days of American history. The leaders of both colonial Massachusetts and Virginia did not allow just anyone to come to those colonies who wanted to come. An applicant for immigration to Massachusetts had to be interviewed by the Massachusetts Bay Company to determine if he met the religious and moral standards of the colony. And the Puritan founders of Massachusetts deliberately excluded both British aristocrats and the British poor from immigrating. They wanted a middle class society. The leaders of colonial Virginia also sought to restrict immigration so as to select a population that would contribute to the building of the kind of society they wanted. At the time of the American Revolution, the Founding Fathers were virtually unanimous in opposing easy immigration to the new republic. Last year, in my remarks to the Randolph Club in Washington, I quoted some of the founders on immigration, using Dr. Wayne Lutton's research in his monograph the Myth of Open Borders. And I'll repeat some of that material here. Both Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, who rarely agreed on anything else, were at one in their view of immigration. Jefferson wrote in his notes on the State of Virginia that immigrants from monarchical countries should be discouraged from immigrating. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, or if able to throw them off, it will be an exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing as usual from one extreme to the other. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. Alexander Hamilton, in a speech of 1802 agreed. The opinion expressed in notes on Virginia, he said, is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind, to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners. The influx of foreigners must therefore tend to produce a heterogeneous compound to change and corrupt the national spirit, to complicate and confound public opinion, to introduce foreign propensities. George, what.
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De
That was Hamilton and Jefferson agreeing on something.
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Pete
Imagine that. Basically what Hamilton said was expounding off of what Thomas Jefferson said, is that if you have different cultures, different ethnicities, people from different countries coming here who aren't born into this and are willing to just come here and completely embrace it, you're going to have chaos. And that's what we got.
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De
And it's not just here either. So the Euro soccer championships are going on right now, right? And you have Albanians living in England waving the Albanian soccer flag, right? They'll go to games, you know, I don't know where all the games are being played. Forgive me, I just know that's going on. But like you, I've seen pictures of foreign, you know, Albanians, diaspora Albanians cheering for the Albanian team in, you know, their new host country, right? You just, just, like when Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, when Mexico and the United States played years ago, right? It was a. Basically, it was a Mexican. It was a Mexican home game because so many Mexicans cheered for the Mexican team.
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Jose
Yeah, I interviewed that guy who's just, like, saying, like, yeah, this feels like a foreign country, right?
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De
And this. And it's not just here, it's all over Europe, right? You know, they all go home, right? Like, oh, you have to let me stay here. It's a dangerous shithole. Then why do you go back to Syria on vacation twice a year, Right? Why? Why are you constantly sending money and, and going back to these places, Right? Why, if it's, if it's so awful, are, you know, do you go back to Pakistan to pick a wife and bring her back to England? Why? Oh, because you're just. You're here and, and for the reasons that, you know, are elucidated in the Bell Curve and elsewhere. And, and that every one of these people knew. This is the Rothfell Rockwell Report. Jeff Tucker was there. Paul Gottfried was there. All these, you know, Every Libertarian in 1995 knew the truth about race and sex and the JQ. They all knew. The honest ones just didn't lie about it. Right. In 1995, the average libertarian knew what was up, and they understood. And they might have not used the language that I use, but they understood what I understand. I learned a lot of what I know from these people. And the fact that today's libertarians lie. They know the. They know the truth and they lie. To make the play, to make the world less free is why they're just.
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Pete
Yeah, the 90s. Good. No, go ahead, Jose.
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Jose
The 90s were a peculiar period because I remember there was like a debate between Peter Brimelo and then forget who that ACLU president at the time was, Ira Glancer or whatever. Forget his freaking name. But that was like a. A very peculiar period where you did see like the emergence of like, so called based dissident thought, somewhat like grow and almost turn quite quasi mainstream. But man, like, that has declined significantly over the last three decades with like any type of like serious political discourse on race and whatnot. Just confined to like our podcast, basically.
- [81:36]
Pete
Yeah, the. I forget what I was going to say. The. Damn it. All right, let's just, let's continue with Sam. It'll come back to me. It always does.
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Tyler Redick
George Washington wrote to John Adams in 1794 that my opinion with respect to immigration is that except of useful mechanics and some particular description of men and professions, there is no use of encouragement. And later he wrote, I have no intention to invite immigrants, even if there are no restrictive acts against it, I am opposed to it altogether. These sentiments were commonplace among the leaders and founders of the American republic. And of course, they were mainly thinking of European immigrants. It probably never occurred to most of them that Asians, Africans and Latin Americans would one day displace even the Europeans whose coming they opposed. Much of the early American legislation against immigration was enacted at the state or local rather than the national level. And in the 1820s and 1830s, Boston, New York, Baltimore and New Orleans all sought to curtail the practice of some European countries of dumping their paupers, vagrants and criminals into U.S. ports.
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Pete
And they were talking about white Europeans. That's the way they talked about them, yeah.
- [82:57]
De
Well, were they wrong, though? I mean, look, what. Like this is right? Like, like Venezuela, very smartly.
- [83:04]
Pete
Right.
- [83:04]
De
They're a geopolitical enemy of ours for reasons. Basically emptied all their prisons out and said, go to America. And tens of thousands of Americans have been victims of Venezuelan crime in the last year and a half because crime is committed by criminals. And we got a bunch of criminals
- [83:21]
Jose
just dumped on our 2.0.
- [83:24]
De
Yep, that's exactly what's happening.
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Tyler Redick
One reason there was not more federal legislation earlier was that immigration came in waves. And when there was no immigrant tide, there was no reason to build legal walls against it. But whenever the tide of immigration has increased, Congress in the past has always taken measures to stop it or control it. Indeed, in the very first congressional statute regulating The Naturalization of Foreigners as citizens passed in 1790, it was explicitly stipulated that citizenship was restricted to any alien being a free plot white person. There were other stipulations, namely that you had to be of sound moral character and you had to be economically self supporting. The myth of open borders the myth that we are a nation of immigrants Emma Lazarus Myth of the golden door always open to anyone who shows up is simply a lie. In the course of our history, we have had immigration restrictions based on economic condition, race, religion, morals, health, political views, criminal background, cultural habits, and mental capacities. Measures to those effects were passed in the 1880s and 1890s, and eventually the 1924 Immigration act enacted the National Origins Test, by which immigrants from other countries could enter the United States in proportion to the past contributions of those countries to the American population. The 1924 act remained the law until it was replaced by the Immigration and Nationality act of 1952. But the new law retained the national origins system and also excluded aliens who were, among other things, convicted criminals, communists, anarchists, drug addicts, drug pushers, lunatics, prostitutes, sex deviates, or mental or physical defectives.
- [85:18]
Pete
See how do we get libertarians in this country?
- [85:21]
De
Yes, why is Sam talking about the Libertarian National Committee?
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Tyler Redick
Of course, today that list sounds more like a description of the Clinton Cabinet than anything else. Only in 1965 was the national origin system abandoned, although both supporters and opponents of the 1965 law that did away with the national origins test argued that the new law should not or would not alter the traditional cultural character and ethnic composition of the country. It was, in other words, a given of the 1965 debate that retaining our traditional ethnic and cultural character was desirable, and Congress consented to the new law on that understanding. It was, of course, an understanding that was in error, since the abolition of the National Origins Test made possible the Third World invasion that we are seeing today and the racial and cultural revolution we and our children will live to experience. My point in recounting this history is merely to show that throughout our national history, we have never followed a policy of open borders or subscribed to the notion that anyone who wants to come here, barring convicted criminals, may immigrate. I'm not all that familiar with the immigration histories of other countries, but it would seem to me that the United States, throughout its history, up until very recently, has had one of the most restrictive and one of the most carefully selective immigration policies in the world. Yet, despite the economic cost of the taxpayers of aliens who receive welfare, education, health care, law enforcement, and other services.
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Pete
The major problem that Sam, there's Americans who collect that too. So why aren't you complaining about them? Typical libertarian response.
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De
Well, I don't think they should border like.
- [87:14]
Pete
Yeah, I think they should be kicked out. I mean, unless they need help. I mean, unless they're. If they're heritage Americans and they can't work, if it's. I mean, we take care of our own.
- [87:26]
De
If an otherwise productive citizen gets hit by a bus and needs help for a little while, that's one thing. But you know, fifth generation welfare recipients who have never had a job in their life, you know, that's a different thing entirely.
- [87:41]
Pete
Yeah, gone. Bye.
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Tyler Redick
Massive third world immigration presents to us remains cultural. Supporters of immigration like Ben Wattenberg and other neoconservatives who argue that even third world immigrants assimilate quickly, simply subscribe to a superficial idea of what culture is. They seem to think that once an immigrant has started wearing T shirts and blue jeans, learned pidgin English, eaten a few Quarter pounders with cheese, and started slobbering over Michael Jackson and Madonna, he has become an American. In a minimal sense, perhaps he has. But in the first place, even in the minimal sense, immigrants often seem to assimilate less to than is supposed. One test of this is language. And the evidence is that an increasing number of immigrants continue to speak a foreign language at home. In New York City, for example, in 1980, 35% of all residents spoke a foreign language at home. By 1992, that had increased to 41%, and nearly half of these said they did not speak English well. In Miami, nearly 75% speak a foreign language at home and 67% say they don't speak English well. While some 45 different languages are spoken in the New York City school system, some 60 different languages were spoken in the homes of students at Los Angeles Hollywood high school in 1980, and as many as 83 languages were spoken in Los Angeles county in 1989. A Census Bureau report showed a 40% increase in the 1980s of those who speak a foreign language at home. In just one year between 1990 and 91, the number of limited English students in American schools increased by 14.3% to more than 2 million. Thus, even by the standards of minimal assimilation, the evidence is that an increasing number of immigrants are continuing to adhere to languages other than the traditional language of American subject, civilization, government and literature. In the absence of common language, a common culture and a common nationality are simply meaningless. Language is merely the minimal test of assimilation. Another and more meaningful test is Religion. We know that there are now more Muslims in the United States than there are Episcopalians, though admittedly the Moslems may be closer to traditional Christianity. We also know that cults like Santeria are highly popular among Caribbean immigrants and that the practice of sorcery and animal sacrifice that Santeria and similar cults indulge strike us as highly offensive and barbaric. There was a fairly recent case before the Supreme Court in which the Santeria cult in Hialeah, Florida, that ban.
- [90:36]
Jose
So you'll see some people on the right talk about Catholicism from Latin America being a factor that can make the US more conservative. And this is, this is like, totally, totally ignorant of the fact that a lot of Catholicism in Latin America, especially when you go to countries with people of largely emirate, Indian or mulatto extraction, tends to be very syncretic, that it blends a lot of animalistic, like, rituals, animist rituals, and all this crazy witchcraft and sorcery that turns that Catholicism into something completely different from European style Catholicism. Just to put that out there.
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De
So I'm, I just wanted to chime in.
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Pete
I'm sorry.
- [91:31]
De
Yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
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Pete
No, no, Jose.
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De
LAUGHING but there's a heroic bishop, Bishop de Castro Meyer, who is one of maybe half a dozen bishops to actually resist Vatican ii. A great, a great hero. He was German. You can look at the Plino de Calria de Oliveira is like, I think he's Spanish. The, the traditional movement in Latin America is white. It's, it's, it's Iberian. It's, it's. Yeah, and it's Iberian and German and Italian. The. Not only. And I, I've worked in doing like, you know, religious, like volunteering religious ed in some of these places in California many years ago, like 20 years ago. And not only are the Latino immigrants, like, barely catechized or, you know, like, they're barely literate in Spanish, let alone English, but they're, they'll say they're Catholic and then they go to Mass every, you know, like. Oh, yeah, I remember. Like it's Sunday, right? And they'll wake up from, you know, Saturday night of, you know, 20 modelo especials and, you know, three, three splits. And they're like, oh, yeah, I should probably go to church on Sunday once every six months. They have no idea what any, like, any of the creed means. They barely know their, you know, nuesto padre. Like they, their grandma might kind of like know the rosary or something. But in terms of actually practicing the faith, they just don't. And it only gets gets worse as they live in America where there's more material and. And so this idea that all these. These Joel Berry types and have of, like, these people are going to be conservative. No, they're not. They're stable, dependent. They're highly prone to vice. They don't. They don't understand Christianity at all. And most of them, like, are. You know, it depends on what flavor. But, like, you know, Santa Muerte, right? Like, you know, they.
- [93:58]
Charles
They're.
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De
They worship demons. They just put a code of Aztec. Like, there's still the Azteca underneath.
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Stormy
And.
- [94:06]
De
And they're indulging in all kinds of, like, really wicked shit.
- [94:09]
Pete
And.
- [94:10]
De
And anybody that wants to pretend that the Catholics, the Catholicism of, like, Hernan Cortez and these people is the same thing is, it's just not.
- [94:21]
Jose
It's not. No, it's not. Absolutely not. It's just, like, completely wishful thinking and, like, totally ignorant of what actually taking place on the ground there.
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Tyler Redick
Sacrifice. The court ruled for the Santerians, so that now neither Hialeah nor any other city can outlaw the killing or torture of animals for religious purposes. In San Francisco, some 500 animals every year are sacrificed to Babalu, a Santeria God who apparently received his name from a hit song recorded in the 1940s by Desi Arnaz. That's 1993. As Haitian immigrants prepared to.
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De
That's a demon. And. And it's bad.
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Pete
Okay. Yeah, yeah. And he was on. He was in the 50s. He was on American television singing songs about Baba Lou, I love you on the biggest TV show on the planet. Yeah.
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De
Which is still very funny. But. But, like, these are not people. Like, oh, this ancient. No, no, no, no, no, no. Santa Muerte is a cult that's come up in the last 30 years, right? Like, they just made up Saint Death, patrons of criminals and smugglers. Like, there's a demon that said, hey, I'll give you power if you sacrifice babies and give me money and drugs and whatever else, right? And I'll give you earthly power. And these people made deals with demons, and I'm supposed to pretend it, you know, local parish xyz, that their demon worship with, you know, occasional rotary beats slapped on it, is the same thing as my, you know, patho noster quiescent. Like, this is not the same thing. They're not the same fate. These people are not Christians. They're not Catholics. They're not Americans. And. And pretending that they are is a. A vile offense. I Hate it anyway. More Sam.
- [96:34]
Pete
I'm. I'm all good, man. All good.
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Tyler Redick
To embark on their illegal voyages to the United States in anticipation of president Clinton's lifting the ban on them, One of the things they almost always made sure to do before setting out was to get a voodoo priest to use magic to help them make it across the sea. The Washington Post interviewed one Haitian who had already lost 23 relatives to drowning in two attempts to come to America. But he told them, we did not have the right magic last time. Next time we will have more powerful magic that will make us invisible. Who knows, he may be among us today. Indeed, in Miami, so serious has santeria and voodoo become that officials at the county courthouse have instituted what they call the voodoo squad, whose job it is to go around in the morning and clean up the bodies of dead chickens, goats, pigeons, lizards and other voodoo items from the courthouse grounds. It seems that adherents of Santeria and voodoo engage in these rituals on the grounds before their legal cases go to court. And in some cases, they sprinkle voodoo powders on the chairs of the judges to influence the judges decisions. It actually may be more effective than trying to argue the law to many of our judges. What we are seeing in the demographic and racial revolution that mass immigration causes then is also a cultural revolution, a dispute displacement of the traditional British and European culture of the peoples who discovered, created and conquered North America and the United States by cultures and cultural fragments that are entirely non western. And if this revolution today is far more obvious in high impact immigration states in areas like southern California and Florida, it soon will become just as obvious as immigration begins to spread out into other regions of the country. Immigration then represents more than just higher costs for welfare or dislocation in employment. Immigration, more than any other demographic phenomenon of our time, means the end of western and American civilization and of the people who created that civilization as we have known them. And that meaning is upon us today. Slamming the golden door. If that is how we should think of protecting our nation, our people and our civilization. Civilization from the invasion that threatens them is absolutely essential. Nor would it involve either increases in the power of the federal government or any unusual expense or any departure from our real traditions as Americans. Ending immigration, legal and illegal, like so many of our other problems in this country, is really a simple matter. But it does require overcoming the political power of the business and political elites who want mass immigration from for their own selfish purposes. And it requires an understanding that this nation and its culture and the republican liberty that grows out of that culture Are not the creatures of an intellectual abstraction, an idea or a proposition, but that they are the product of a particular people and a particular historical heritage. We cannot preserve our liberty by building statues and wheezing bad poetry or pretending that every other country culture in the world is really composed of people who would be good Americans if only they had a chance, but only by preserving the people and reclaiming the heritage upon which our freedom really rests and without which it will vanish. As Peter Bremelo says in his recent book Alienation, like a candle in the gale. Thank you.
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De
One million percent vindicated. Name one thing and, and not only that, but, but there's a Peter Bermolo. He mentions. He mentions.
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Jose
Hello, it is Ryan.
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De
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Pete
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- [100:32]
De
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Pete
Right.
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De
So the libertarians who say, oh well, we can just have open borders. No, you're lying, you're lying, you're stupid and ignorant and so you shouldn't talk. And the people who think that you should be able to debate public matters while wearing a thong, no, no, this
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Jose
is information pollution, right?
- [102:10]
De
Like you don't know what you're talking about or you're lying or both and you just, you don't like, shut up, grown UPS are talking and the people who'd want to say that, oh, what do you hate Jews? We'll look around. Everything's falling apart and they're in charge. You know, Greg Conti has a great little thing like, like Jewish power means Jewish responsibility. Just quoting Spite. Just quoting Stanley Blitz. You know, Stan Lee. With great power comes great responsibility.
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Pete
Right?
- [102:41]
De
Like you're Spider man, not me. Like if you're the ones in charge of everything. The World War III and no one can get married and the economy sucks and at any second, like our standard of like, dude, the State Department in the last two years has reversed the Sino Soviet split, recreated this Cuban Missile Crisis, right? Like, like you recreate human missile crisis, literally. There are Russian weapons in Cuba right now and I'm supposed to like, you've restarted the Cold War. Not just one, two cold wars, like always.
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Jose
Yeah, double containment, man. Like what
- [103:26]
De
you're, you're re engineering like the split of Germany, right? Like Germany will split on east west lines if this keeps up. Because the east, the east will just be like, this is ridiculous. We're going back to the Russian sphere of influence. They don't want us all to die.
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Jose
Right?
- [103:41]
De
This is.
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Stormy
Yes.
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De
This is what is like you're everything that we gained in the 20th century through all those, you know, the second 30 years world war from 1914 to 1945, that was all about, you know, keeping the Germans down from becoming powerful on the continent, as Tim says, you know, Right. There was all about the Anglo Zog power, you know, punishing the Germans for being like good workers and industrious and, and, and capable of creating vast sums of wealth. We're supposed to just, we're just supposed to just pretend that, that this is like everything is fine and you know, they're losing the French empire. They've created a refugee crisis in every single country. They've ended the petrodollar and we're supposed to pretend that everything is fine. Look around. Where was Sam wrong? Like Saudi Arabia. Joint joining or getting rid of the petrol draw ought to be like 50 page front in front of New York Times. Like we're screwed.
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Pete
Mm.
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De
You know all those people that Sam has talked about, Sam just talked about that have entered California in the last 30 years that are welfare dependent. What happens when there's no petrodollar to those people?
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Tyler Redick
Are they.
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De
And there's no money to just pay them to, to exist? What happens to those people? What happens to those California public schools that are basically just daycare centers when there's no Money or the Texas public schools or the Florida public schools or the roads or anything and right. Oh, and everyone deserves a gun. So, so gang bangers with, with rap sheets, right? Like their, their sister can buy a gun because she's an American citizen and she's free and she can purchase a gun because she's not a gang banger, but she lives with her brother who's got a rap sheet a mile long. And we can't be like, no, you can't purchase a gun. You live in a house with a felon or you're related to a felon because you're a free American citizen and we shouldn't be able to restrict your rights. Get out of here. You know, I mean, am I wrong, Jose?
- [106:22]
Pete
Like,
- [106:25]
De
oh no.
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Jose
I, I really do think that one of the big issues I have with people across the right spectrum from, from like libertarians to conservatives is that there's a point where like you have to get confrontational in politics where you just cannot debate people that are just too stupid, too malicious or that really just want to like clobber you over the head. You eventually have to expel them and it's going to get physical and it's gonna get nasty and the more you put this off, you're gonna, this whole process is going to get more, more
- [107:06]
De
violent in the worst it's gonna get right. Like. Yeah, yeah, right. There's an irregular Venezuelan army in Florida right now and it's only getting bigger as the white American population of Florida gets older.
- [107:21]
Jose
Also I would, I would suggest too, whenever Sam Francis was talking about the so called like Mexican irredentist. I think I've joked about this, but I'm also kind of serious too with like some people that that whole like asset lawn movement is very likely going to be spearheaded by cartels like once they start really setting up shop here and police departments become like non existent, that's going to become a very harsh reality soon when they start just carving out statelets within like the US power vacuum.
- [108:00]
De
They're already de facto sovereign in northern Mexico anyway. The only reason Fort Liberty, which used to be Fort Hood, right, like Liberty, right is, is just outside of El Paso. The only reason the cartels aren't de facto sovereign over Trans Pecos Texas right now is they don't want to be. It's more work than it's worth to them at this particular moment.
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Tyler Redick
Yeah,
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Pete
right.
- [108:28]
De
And, and it's not a paying proposition. If the US government collapses and President Sheinbaum doesn't, you know why, why can't they just take. What's stopping them from taking it for Hood, how many, what percentage of the bases on Fort Hood is Mexicans?
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Jose
Oh, yeah. It's also well documented that a good deal of, of these like veterans of like Hispanic and Mary Indian extraction, they become like hitmen for cartels afterwards. There's like a growing sector of that in Mexico.
- [109:04]
Pete
Well, you want to, you want to hear what Mr. Build the wall 50ft high and don't let him in had to say about immigration this week?
- [109:16]
Jose
Do it.
- [109:16]
Pete
Let's, let's say.
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De
But what I want to do and
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Charles
what I will do is you graduate from a college, I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma a green card to be able to
- [109:30]
De
stay in this country.
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Charles
And that includes junior colleges too. Anybody graduates from a college, you go in there for two years or four years, if you graduate or you get a doctorate degree from a college, you should be able to stay in this country.
- [109:42]
De
Folks, it makes absolutely no sense by the way, that we send home 40,000 engineers and scientists who are in a PhD in our university every year and
- [109:49]
Charles
we send them back home. We should be stapling a green card
- [109:52]
De
to each and every one of those degrees as they walk across the stage. That's what's destroyed Canada right now. Canada's.
- [110:01]
Jose
Yeah, yeah. Canada, Australia. Man, those are exhibit A's of so called skilled migration.
- [110:07]
Stormy
Yeah.
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De
And of course the second you do that, right, these low trust, dishonest third world people who don't come from, from frankly Anglo Saxon liberty, right?
- [110:16]
Jose
It's like a CCP forward base like
- [110:18]
De
waiting to be created or, or Indian forward base, right? Like, so Indians create like a diploma mill where like, like what they're taught is like how to look up stuff on stack overflow and all of a sudden they're a complete computer engineer. It's like, no they're not. Yeah, like please sir, how many of
- [110:37]
Jose
those here in Austin?
- [110:38]
De
Yeah, like, you know, allow me to complete, please sir. You know, like, like these are not people who are highly qualified. They just, they have a credential and everyone who knows anything, right? Like Donald Trump should know like Bessie DeVos was his secretary of education, he should know that education, like it's nonsense. Like we're graduating people who are semi literate from college. We're, you know, look at the NFL tell me that, you know all these people who college graduates and they're not literate.
- [111:16]
Pete
Yeah. The, what I was thinking about when I was listening to Sam, especially towards the end there is the fact that and then some of the comments that you were making de is people, just the people who, especially heritage Americans who've bought into all this stuff, they just don't see the benefit anymore in preserving it. They don't. I guess it's been so long now, you know, Nuremberg regime long, that everything, everything that was done in the past in this country was somehow evil and that multiculturalism is evil. That the people would fight to not keep this, that they're very willing to just let it all erode.
- [112:21]
De
Well, you know, congratulations. Three survivors are the biggest psyop in human history, right? Like, how many people took the jab because they were told. Billions of people, billions of people took this jab because they were told to. At a bare minimum, hundreds of millions. I have no idea. But, but probably in the billions of people took this jab because they were told to take the jab. And nobody, right, you, you tell people for 50 years that white people are evil, that, that any sort of discrimination is basically Hitler, that, that, you know, the 109 times they just didn't do nothing. That, you know, the 1964 Civil Rights act is, is the, you know, Martin Luther King is a latter day founder, like Glenn Beck has said. And you wonder why people don't care. Like, you can see it, go to the US army recruiting ads on YouTube like, oh, they got a bunch of white guys. Guess we're going to war for Israel, right? Well, of course you wonder why, you know, you tell people this isn't worth preserving and then they believe you. And then you're mad that they believe you. Like, I'm sorry, Bill Crystal, you can't spend the last 30 years undermining America and then be mad when, you know, it worked. And all of a sudden a bunch of people who, like, they don't want to go die in Ukraine for your freaking ethnic, you know, your ethnic resentment from 350 years ago, right? Go yourself, Bill. Go yourself. Victoria Newland. I don't care anymore. I'm an American. My ancestors have been here a long time. There's, there's no reason for me to, you know, whoa. From stone choir. It's like if they try to draft you, you know, you know, you're going to war. They just don't get to choose which side. If, if the U. S. Government tries to draft me or my sons or my daughters, we're at war. The U. S. Government, you know, like, they're trying to destroy my family so that Israel can go fight. Like, Israel started the fight with Hezbollah. Israel started the fight with Hamas with their all Aq Hamas stuff. They could have just stayed home. They didn't need to go just like try and destroy the Al Aqsa mosque. They didn't need to do that. They don't need to go try and steal the Latani river water from, from Lebanon. They don't need to assassinate the president and vice president of Iran. They don't need to. They don't need to like start screw off games in eastern Ukraine since 2014. 10 years of civilians getting killed and all of a sudden it's a problem. All of a sudden my kids got to go get killed. Go fuck yourself. Like, why should, you know, like, oh well, we got to worry about Taiwan. All the chips are made there. You know, Silicon Valley in California. Why do you think it got that name? Sorry, just, you know, but was made here. Shockey was the guy who invented a transistor, won the Nobel Prize. Guess what he had to say about race and IQ and all this other stuff. He was my guy. He was telling the truth. It wasn't me that moved all these, you know, that took all these tech jobs and manufacturing jobs and other stuff and moved them to Taiwan to save $5. It was you who destroyed this stuff. So why should I care? If you don't care enough to preserve this country elites, Jews, and now you're mad at me that I don't want to preserve the country that's destroying, that's destroying my people? You know, if it weren't for the fact that Germany is occupied territory, AfD would be in government right now and they'd be deporting all these people. And they've done all the studies. These people cost taxpayers. The Danish government did a study, right? Like these people have cost, you know, these migrants don't pay taxes. They cost tens of hundreds of billions of dollars. So why, why is this just naked parasitism that offers no benefit to me or to my ancestral homelands or to just anywhere in general? Why is it allowed to continue? Oh, because the people in charge, the Jews, their lackeys, hate white people. They hate white Christian Europe. They hate white Americans. Well, sorry, I hate you back now. And it's not anything I, I did. It's everything that you did that Sam Francis talked about. It's, it's you taking that libertarian tradition that's part of my heritage as an Anglo Saxon, you know, British person, that English liberty and turning it into dudes in their underwear, trying to demand a public debate as opposed to just being arrested and then have the Crap beat out of him by the police. As he ought to have been.
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Tyler Redick
Right.
- [117:43]
De
A man running around in a thong should be on a public street, should be arrested and then get whacked a couple times in the kidneys with a truncheon until he learns better.
- [117:53]
Jose
Yeah. Flogged with bamboo sticks, man.
- [117:55]
De
Yeah, right. Singapore will still be free in 100 years because they've kept a culture that demands discipline.
- [118:11]
Pete
Well, yeah, I mean that's, that's the thing is people, people look at, I mean a, a society that is monocultural, monoethnic, needs some sort of discipline. The only way when you look at societies that are multicultural, that are functioning around the world and I mean really, which soc. Just Singapore. I can't think if somebody wants to name another one, you know. Yeah.
- [118:40]
Jose
Authoritarian as fuck too.
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Pete
Yeah. That's the only way. Yeah. I've been, I've said this. Erik Prince can clean up Chicago, can clean up this outside of Chicago in a week. You don't even need Erik Prince. You just need to unleash what you have at your disposal. All of this can be solved in a week.
- [119:01]
De
80, 20, all they have to do. Charles and I talked about this all the time. I could turn 80 of her problems around inside a year. But the problem is, is the second you actually did what was necessary, you'd get a, you know, a thousand chinique was going, my baby didn't do nothing. Why you gotta do. Okay, I'm sorry, 50 of your people, your, your men are criminal, violent criminals and just need to be executed. Not my problem. Like, like face tattoo guy just needs to be executed. Sorry.
- [119:30]
Jose
Yeah, I could see like, like a situation like that, like in a really just like dystopian scenario like a, A NATO gathering of how like we need to intervene in like this like jurisdiction for all. Because like this guy is just trying to like impose order on these poor, poor non whites.
- [119:53]
De
Yeah, well they're, I guarantee you there are people who. NGOs in America who are plotting the violent overthrow of and letting all those.
- [120:01]
Jose
Oh, big time. No. 100%. Yes. That is like, I don't think that's
- [120:06]
De
even like CIA who are mad that their drug running revenue that was generated by El Salvador is no longer being generated and they are trying to overthrow bukele through the NGO complex right now. 100 guaranteed.
- [120:21]
Jose
Yeah. And I saw like he, he opened that public library that was like financed by China. It's like damn. Like he's like definitely getting like a. There's definitely a consortium of people that are gonna go after him for sure.
- [120:34]
De
Like, well, right now, and, and Joe Jordan's talking about this, like, if you're El Salvador or you're Hungary or you're anywhere, right? And the United States of America and well, ZOG generally, right? Britain, France, all these, all these NATO countries, they have nukes, they have, you know, billions of dollars, trillions of dollars in military equipment. They have 11 or 12 aircraft carriers. They have tanks and bomber planes and all this other stuff. And you're a small country with 3, 4, 5, 10 million people, even 20 million people. How do you stand up against that? You know, they have trillions of dollars in gdp. They go at a war with you economically. What do you do? Well, you go to the other people on the face of the planet that aren't. That aren't trying to do this to you, aren't trying to make your kids gay, aren't trying to destroy your manufacturing sector, aren't trying to make all your food weird and fake and GMO and all this other stuff. And you say to them, hey, like, let's. Let's make a deal. And you can say that the Chinese Communist Party is evil and they're bad and they do all these other things. Yeah, but are they trying to make all the kids gay?
- [121:44]
Jose
Nope.
- [121:45]
Pete
Right.
- [121:46]
De
And if I was naive, Kelly, and said, well, wait a second, the Chinese might be, you know, this might. Might turn El Salvador into a Chinese colony. But is that better than like a CIA drug, A drug dump.
- [121:59]
Pete
Yeah.
- [121:59]
De
Global homo colony and a sex tourism spot. Spot for pedophiles, which is what they are, you know, like, like what South Central and South America has been turned into by. By, you know, Americans. Like, what was it, the Secret Service? Three or four guys got busted for sex trafficking people in venezuela, you know, 10 years ago or something. Five years ago, I can't remember exactly when. But like, you think that they're not trying to, you know, go after small kids in Central America? Perverts from the United States? Get out of here. Of course they are. Of course there.
- [122:46]
Pete
Well, yeah. And really the only, as far as I can see, the only answer right now is to keep just building locally and keep doing things locally. Definitely look to build social capital with people. And that's something that the Old Glory Club is, is doing. We had our conference and just the amount of people who've contacted us to either try to join a chapter or start a chapter is truly humbling. And the whole goal is to build social capital and then in real life and then cross over and build civilizational capital. Because really if we're going to have a civilization, we're going to have to build it ourself and if we want to have it now, we're going to have to build it ourselves. And that means that you're going to have to build it where you are. And I just don't see any other way through this because we will get through this. Yeah, it's very easy to be black pilled in the short term, but in the long term you shouldn't be black pilled. You know, we know we win, we know we win in the end, but start building what comes next. You know, the whole thing. I don't, I know Oren talks about it all the time. I don't know. I think it might be neck land that the only way out is through. Yep. That's Nick. Is it? Yeah. Is we. We're going to have to just punch through this and you know, not pretend that it's not there. Always have it in mind that it's there. But building what comes next, what you want to see coming next because you know we talked about the petrodollar, we haven't talked about brics. When you look at what brics is doing, when you look at just the fact that the people who are in charge in this country are not only incompetent but I mean they possess incompetence and hubris at the same time. Is. That's a remarkable, that's a remarkable combination.
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De
And how do you fuck up California?
- [125:06]
Pete
It's like, I mean greatest, it's like the great, literally the greatest econ potential economy with its, with just all of its agriculture and everything there. I don't know how, I don't know how you do that.
- [125:21]
De
How do you like these people have made. Yeah. I mean they've messed up Chicago, New York and California to the point that they're unlivable. Think about that. Think about that. Think of all the, the greatest deepwater harbor on the west coast of a continent. That's the natural point. Interpol for all trade with Europe. Trillions of dollars. The world's greatest stock exchange, short industry, everything. You know, Chicago, the. You're basically on the Mississippi Delta. Mississippi and the Great Lakes at the same time in Chicago, this, this incredible rail hub and, and cheap water transport and, and grain and, and cheap, you know, just everything. Everything like California, you know, these best deepwater port in the world in San Francisco. Beaches and, and mountains and beautiful redwood forests and, and they've made it all awful now either they're so staggeringly incompetent that again, they should never have any voice in public ever again. Or they're malicious and evil and destroying everything. But in either case, they're in charge and it's not.
- [126:51]
Pete
Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is where we're at. And I do. I look at those as so far gone that if we were to take it all back, those would be the last ones we take back. Yeah. I mean, or it's just. It's going to be a slog. I. I don't know. I don't know.
- [127:14]
Jose
Yeah, it'll be like the recon keystone.
- [127:18]
Pete
Yeah, we're going to have to take back in a lot of cases, take back what you can or preserve what you have. If you're in an area that this hasn't touched yet, where the idea that there would be drag queen story hour at the local library is anathema,
- [127:36]
De
you
- [127:36]
Pete
want to set up a shield. You want to figure out a way that if. Even if you get to start sniffing that this is going to happen, that you have a way to. You have people to go to. To say it's not going to happen here and just start building, you know, start building fortresses, be a bulwark against this and build culture, build capital and. Yeah, that's. That's about. That's about where we are. That's about where we are. Donald Trump is not coming to save us. Donald Trump is. Donald Trump's. If he gets reelected, he will be run by the same exact people he was run with. Jared Kushner may not be in the White House with him, but believe me, there's plenty. 10 Jared Kushner's will be there with him. Bill Ackman, the Adelson widow, David Sacks, who he was on that. I mean, these are built. These are all billionaires and they're all of a certain tribe.
- [128:45]
De
So on the plus side, though,
- [128:50]
Pete
more
- [128:50]
De
and more people are waking up to the realities, and I think that they're. I wouldn't do this if I didn't think that there was some kind of hope. I mean, if there was no hope, I'd be gone. I disappear off the Internet. The name Dark Enlightenment would just like, I'd scrub everything and go away. But like you've said, Pete, they're in charge and everything's falling apart. This is great, because you can't deny after October 7th, you just can't deny now.
- [129:24]
Pete
Right?
- [129:27]
De
Yeah. Ben Spiro saying it's hard to call a person, you know, that's just constituent. It's not a handler and then the comments underneath his, you know, YouTube video or just constant, you know. And I, I do think that shows like this one. I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't do it if I didn't think that this really makes a difference. And I, I applaud Pete for all of his hard work and you know, foregoing massive opportunities elsewhere at Grift and, and actually tell the truth and make a lot less money.
- [129:58]
Pete
Right.
- [129:58]
De
Like.
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Pete
Yeah. Well, I wanted to mention something instituted for your historical review, tweeted out an article by of all people. I was shocked. Eric Margulies, who seems to be on the. To me has always been on the left anti. Definitely an anti war voice.
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Jose
Yeah.
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Pete
It was an article typed. Yeah. Titled Europe Thunder on the Right. And Thomas retweeted that. And I think Thomas 777 had this right. In policy terms, this is meaningless unless until the Euro right begins speaking the language of European liberation from Zionist occupation and demanding an end to NATO aggression against the Russian Federation and the Bundesl Republic. Nobody likes immigration. Immigration is as popular as high taxes and immigration restriction Control is always a winner at the ballot box. European liberation is the only meaningful rightist tendency on the continent post 1945. Anything less is begging the occupier to slow down. The Morgenthau Plan Ready to put a
- [131:09]
De
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- [131:26]
Pete
and if we are not talking about ending this Zionist occupation here, if we don't have someone rise up, if the message isn't to end the Zionist occupation here, even though we know what that's going to do to that person, then we can maybe assume that that's their intention in the background, that they're not saying it, that they're not being forthcoming about it. But then you're just hoping and you're wishing and you're waiting for a hero to come when you should just be working and you should be building on your own.
- [132:11]
De
And speaking of building on your own, you know. Subscribe to Jose Substack I was right before this. I was in the middle of Jose's podcast with Keith Preston and talking about the education system, right? Like give money to people who tell you the truth, please. Because if you. If you Want more of it? You gotta, you gotta pay the people who actually are willing to come out here and show their faces and tell the truth and not apologize. So, you know, the Titanic hit the iceberg a long time ago. It's time to stop arguing about which way to change course and start building lifeboats and, you know, do what you can to do that. And the first thing that you need to do, aside from get yourself set, is give the people spreading the truth about the fact that we hit the iceberg your time and attention and hopeful your funds so that you're not by yourself when you need to be. Because only the people who also know what you know are going to be able to help you when the time comes.
- [133:26]
Pete
Well, I appreciate that and I. Yeah, really kind words. Do you. Thank you. I really want to say that I really want to thank everyone who sends their hard earned money every month. I cannot put out the on average one, one episode, one recording a day that I'm doing right now with also doing recordings on my sub stack now trying to do like shorter video essays for, for them without being able to have all the free time and being able to do this without having to worry about going to a job for eight, nine hours a day and hide the fact of who I am and things like that. So yeah, I just want to thank everybody who does indeed donate their hard earned money because there's no way I could do the amount of work that I'm doing. And from the feedback, I think people think that, that the work I'm doing is actually making a difference if not in the greater culture in their lives. That's what I hear the most. And that means more to me than anything else. When people say I can make some of the information I'm putting out there or even a little bit of advice is making a difference in their lives. I just want to say thank you to everyone. But Jose, why don't you. Yeah, I guess DE talked about the sub stack. What's the name of the substack? Where can they find it?
- [134:55]
Jose
Yeah, you can find my substack Jose nino unfiltered@josbcf.substack.com that's also where you will find my podcast, El Nino Speaks. And if you are so inclined, you can listen to that on Spotify or itunes and then. Yeah, and I'm, I'm active on Twitter @JoseAlnio as well.
- [135:18]
Pete
Well, De, I will link to your telegram chat. But something that people, I get asked all the time is does where does De show up where does he have his own podcast? So can you point anybody to where you've shown up lately?
- [135:35]
De
I was on a recent third rail on the Right Stuff, that biz, I think two weeks ago or last week. And I was good.
- [135:43]
Pete
I listened. That was good. Thank you.
- [135:46]
De
And I will be on an upcoming episode of at the End of the Day with Jason at Two Bit Podcast. And I've been. My profile pick is like, an automatic ban on Twitter, so I probably won't be headed back. And unfortunately, I just. I've just been censored because I hung out in two spicy circles for too long, I guess, and. And so it's not worth it to me in terms of risk management and other stuff to kind of try and claw back to the mainstream. I'm sorry, folks.
- [136:18]
Pete
I might.
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Stormy
I got.
- [136:20]
De
I've got a bunch of other projects, but a substack might be in the offing in the fall, but we'll see.
- [136:26]
Pete
Well, I appreciate that. And, yeah, I. As long as we're. As long as we're patting each other on the back, any place that you show up, I always get something out of what you say and probably even steal a bunch. So I appreciate that. Thank you. All right, let's end this. Thank you. Hopefully we get Charles back here next time, because I know Charles has quickly become a favorite as well. People have asked me about him all the time, but. So both of you, I really appreciate it, and have a good weekend.
- [137:05]
De
Thanks, guys. Thank you.
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Pete
So why'd you want to start with that?
- [138:32]
De
DE well, for, I guess you've been reading the Last Crusade by Warren Carroll, which I strongly encourage everyone to listen to, but Charles and I have been saying together privately to each other for years, that we're in January 1936 in Spain, and you get two choices. And I. I strongly believe that. That that's where we're at.
- [139:00]
Charles
We've been saying that since prior to the Rittenhouse incident. We've been. I know we've been saying that prior to that, because I remember the Rittenhouse incident was one of the things that crystallized it from.
- [139:11]
Jose
For us.
- [139:12]
Charles
We had made that statement in a conversation. I still remember it. I was standing in my kitchen, and I'm not sure where you were, but I know we were on the phone together. And I said. We both said, like, this is it, Spain, 1936. You get the fascists, you get the Communists. Anybody else just gets run over in the conflict between the two. And then I want to say it was days. It may be a week, but I think it was honestly days before the written Al shooting that, and then when that happened, it's like, yep, see, this is exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. And if you're not ready to load a rifle, I'm not really ready to listen to you. I remember that was something we both passed back and forth between one another. Yep.
- [139:50]
De
In 2020, we were, we were both talking about that. And, and this is just what, what these, what systems go through. Right. Like we had this period of stability imposed from the top down by American and Soviet hegemony. And, and that's ending. And things are unstable, and things are unstable all over the place. I guess Malaysia is in some sort of conflict. If Israelis just bombed Damascus, there's, you know, the president of Iran just died and there's been a new reelection and, and you know, like there's, there's stuff all over the place popping off. Because the people in charge of this country are the worst sort of people. They are subservient and negligent. Subservient to certain powers abroad, belligerent abroad and neglectful at home. Negligent at home. It's literally the worst combination you could possibly have.
- [140:44]
Charles
Yeah, excellently stated. And I, I would. This is not a pedanticism, but a yes. And I would say that it's not just this country as in the United States of America. I think we're seeing the cracks and the corruption show all over, all over Europe, everywhere. We're seeing that people that know how to manipulate a bureaucratic system have placed themselves into power or have been placed there by others that know how to use a bureaucratic system. We have long since passed the days of meritocracy. Now I'm not some rosy eyed youngster that thinks the past was perfect and that we've always had wonderful meritocracies. I mean, for crying out loud, every man in this room knows that we haven't. But we have had closer to meritocracies than we currently have. I mean, this is the furthest thing from a meritocracy I've ever seen in my 51 years. And I would reckon anybody younger than me or many and even many older than me would agree that we are just so far beyond any sense of merit that it's just unfathomable to think it even existed. That. So that's a big yes. And to what you were saying, yes, I think we do have incompetent and corrupt and nepotistic individuals running things. But as you said, they're just they're so far beyond the pale as to make the past unrecognizable.
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Pete
Well, I think one of the, one of the things, I think we talked about it last night when we were talking to Thomas is. Or no, this is when I was talking to Karl Dahl when we were doing the reading, the seventh reading for Last Crusade. And he was talking about how the reconquista that took almost 800 years was. One generation may only take back three feet, the next generation may take back a mile. Maybe it might take a few generations to get a whole town back or even a county, but it has to start somewhere. And you were talking about loading a rifle to me, I don't think that that's something that is, that's not something national. That is. If we are going to have a reconquista, it starts where you are, you know, it is. We're, you know, we're going to say this is our town, this is what we believe, this is who we are. And you know, if you don't like it, you can leave. And we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we do not need the federal government, maybe even your state government, depending on where you are. And we're going to take care of ourselves. And it could start on a block and then it could go to your neighborhood and then it could be, then it could be the city. But that is the kind of thing if you're going to have a march through the. If it took 100 years for them to march through the institutions, well, the march starts now.
- [144:00]
De
Well, and this is the post war consensus. I put it on my telegram like whatever else you might want to say, right. The last month or so with the elections in, in France and Britain, this incident, others, the, the post war consensus is over and effectively the whole point of the Nuremberg regime. And you have, Thomas, have talked about it. I'm sorry for last night. It was a little bit disjointed but events being what they were, there was no way we're going to make something coherent out of that. But the whole point of the Nuremberg regime is that, is that it is illegal and immoral for white people to assert themselves politically, especially right wing white people. White people can only assert themselves politically on behalf of something else, whether that's the environment or non whites or you know, whatever. Something else. They can never speak in their own interest and especially right wing white people cannot speak in their own interest.
- [145:01]
Charles
Sidekick but not the protagonist is what basically. Yeah, they can be a sidekick, but Not a protagonist.
- [145:06]
De
Yeah, they can pay the taxes. They can, they can be the ones who make everything run, but they can't assert that. And before we get too much further, I, I think we need to say something about the gentleman who died, who the second shots rang up, threw his wife and daughter down and jumped in front of a bullet for them. And that man was a hero. And his name was Corey Comparatori, something very Italian.
- [145:40]
Pete
Yeah, yeah.
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De
And he was, he was a retired 50 year old retired fire chief. There's been tributes from his daughter. Honestly, I teared up. You know, he was a great dad apparently. And I, I know that there are people who I respect who have real problems with Donald Trump and don't want to vote for him again and, and rightfully so. There's lots of things wrong with him. But Cory Companatore deserved people who care about him in Washington. He deserved people who care about his family in Washington. He deserved a government that doesn't put him in danger and put his family in danger and cares about whether his kids or his grandkids have schools and running water and, and, and God damn you establishment for costing this good man his life on so that some genetic abomination communist piece of. Could get within 200 yards of a president and start killing people.
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Pete
Right.
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De
You know, Jose put it best on Twitter like these, these media communists who, they need to be crushed. Orens had some great stuff to say but, but these people, they're scum of the earth. You, you think you hate them enough, but you don't. They all need to be crushed.
- [147:04]
Jose
Yeah. So one thing, one of my immediate takeaways from this incident in addition to the death of Comparatorium was like that scene of people in the crowd instinctively calling out the media for effectively inciting this whole incident. Because I've long said this and I agree with De. I'm not the biggest Trump fan or whatever, but I do believe his support supporter base has very strong biological and political instincts when it comes to determining the friend enemy distinction. I believe like the Trump movement is much more politically switched on than Trump and his inner cabal itself.
- [147:57]
Stormy
And,
- [148:00]
Jose
but yes I was this the just add on is that they, they people like truly understand that the system is collapsing as we know it. And I think any like I have said on Twitter, people have been put in a. A political trance by the liberal international order thinking that things are a. Okay. But now that this order has basically turned the U.S. the Judeo American empire into this Shadiqua state where it's become so incompetent across the board, from the governing functions to the way like your water supply is being administered, people are going to take extra political measures to handle, to like, carry out political disputes. Because when you, like, when D.C. is relying on like, executive orders and regulatory edicts to carry out public policy, there's going to be a backlash and people will take to the streets and use assassination attempts and all this other forms of violence to impose their will. And I think people need to be ready for this because as I've said before, like politics is an expression of like, violence and it is ultimately going back to its primordial form as this is, as we were witnessing a systemic collapse on all levels of governance, whether it's the US or on the international stage. Like history is continuing. It's not over.
- [149:47]
Charles
Right. History doesn't end. And I want to kind of jump on a few things you said, Jose, because I think we're very much simpatico today. I want to say it was back in 2013, 2014, I have a post on one of my two blogs. One blog is just personal stuff that I've written since 2004, but the other one I've written as part of the manosphere since 2012. We've talked about this previously, and that's called 80 proof oinomancy. And back in 2013, I wrote a post that ended up somebody else did a breakdown of my post because I use a lot of negative space when I write. I let the reader draw a lot of their own conclusions. Conclusions. But what I talk about is you have to understand the United States is a nation that has already collapsed. And the best way to think of it is it's a series of dominoes that have all fallen. And in health care they call it a cascade effect. And I wrote about this in my book called the Holistic Guide to Suicide. But the United States is a nation that has already collapsed. It's already done. You may not see it personally if you live in a nice area, if you live in a clean area, if you live in a clean area, if you live in a safe area. But it has already collapsed on the whole, because the dominoes to the left of the one of your left and to the right of the one of your right have already fallen. You just can't see it because the domino on your left and right respectively have not yet fallen. But there is a long strike string of them that have already collapsed. Church, county, state, federal, all of them have already collapsed. They're already done. You're Only noticing it now because the effects of that collapse have knocked into dominoes closer to you, and eventually the ones to your left and right will fall and crush you. And that's what we're witnessing now. And this is why I want to step back to a point, point that I said earlier. If you're not willing to load a rifle, I'm not interested in what you have to say because I understand. I write with negative space, and I can understand a lot of people when they read me or when they listen to me speak. It may be hard for them to. To grasp. But I'm not saying that people aren't smart enough to grasp it. That's not at all what I'm saying. But what I am saying is I. I try and speak very clearly, but very briefly. Brevity is the soul of witness, and I try and let people draw their own conclusions. So when I say I don't want to talk to you unless you're ready to load a rifle, I'm not saying you best be ready to kill somebody. Although, frankly, I think you should be prepared to do that, to defend yourself, your home and your loved ones. But you have to be willing to fight, and you have to be willing to take a bullet. And this steps back again to the issue at hand regarding Trump. Understand, I don't think anybody in this room is actually a tremendous Trump fan. I think we could all sit here and break him down into little pieces. And I don't want to set our generous host off because he had already talked this afternoon about now is not the time to counter signal. And I'm not counter signaling. I'm not. I support him, support Trump more than ever now. However, I would say that the reason they're going after him and the reason we should support him and the reason we should not counter signal is because, like the beam says, they're not going after him, they're going after us. He's just in the way. He's just in the way, really, they're going after him because for all his foibles, for all his bloviating, for all of his nonsense, he is normal. He has a wife, he has kids, he has a job. He does things normal people do. That's why so many can gravitate around him. And being a Northeastern or myself, Pete, I believe you're a Northeasterner as well. Like, I get the bombastic nature, I get what he does, and it kind of rolls off my back, but it rubs people the wrong way. But regardless of his nature, at the end of the day. He is still something people have not seen in 50 to perhaps a hundred years. And that is a genuine politician. Like him or not, love him or not, hate him or not, he is a genuine politician. And I wrote something in a telegram chat D is a part of. And I'm not sure if I repeated on Twitter, I believe I did, but somebody had asked, how are Trump's optics so amazing? And I responded thusly, because he surrounds himself, he being Trump, because he surrounds himself with patriotic imagery and sans affectation. So what we end up seeing is life actually happening, rather than curated, crowd tested pablum crafted by midwits. Or in the event that it is crafted now and then, it is crafted by the closest thing we have to a meritocracy and campaigning. That I think is the key to Trump's success. I don't find him personally charismatic. I think he rambles. I don't think he gets to the point. But what I will respect him for is his genuineness is what you see is what you get. What is what is in the Trump tin is on the Trump tin. And I think there is a great deal to be said for that, because you can rally around the truth far more easily than you can rally around the falsehood. The only reason the left has survived and prospered as well as it has is because it can collectivize, not because it has the truth on its side.
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Pete
They're used to doing that. They, they've been taught to do that.
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Charles
Right.
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Pete
And, you know, the. What was something that I saw, Someone's, I forget who said this, but they collectivize in such a way that it allows them to put the most radical people in the most important positions. So if Trump gets into office, he's not going to put one of us in, say, the Department of Education, but the left or, you know, the regime, they'll put someone who's an open, who's been an open communist in and they don't care. And, and you point it out to them and they don't care.
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Charles
I'm sorry, Pete, I don't mean cut you off, but I want to jump on some because I think you've really touched on something very important, and that is there is a brilliance to putting your most radical people in and getting them there successfully. And the brilliance is if you can get your most radical, most vociferous, craziest allies into the positions of power, it's going to be 10 times easier to get the people on your side that are closer to center, whereas the right does it? The. The backwards way they try and get their centrists in and slowly boil the frog, and that doesn't work. That doesn't work. You get the radicals in, and then your radicals will clean house for you, opening the door for anybody else. I think that is the key to the leftist collective success. I'm agreeing with you that that's absolutely what they do, but I think that is the brilliance behind that tactic, because it's kind of like if you, You. It's kind of like when you're working around the House, you always tackle the hardest job that way. Everything else is easy from then on.
- [157:32]
Pete
Yeah. And I don't know, it's just so. It's so frustrating. It's so frustrating to know that, you know, we have these people, you know, someone like. Someone like De, who is, when it comes to infrastructure, probably knows 10 times more than anyone in the regime right now. And, you know, he's. He's stuck out here because, you know, he's radical and. But if the. But the regime will put in somebody who read one. Read one book on infrastructure, and yet they're. They're a raving Marxist and. Yeah, but we try to. We try to do it. We try to try to put one of our people in there and immediately, you know what happens.
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De
Yeah, well, the difference between us and them is, is that, you know Sam Brinton, the insane dude who liked to steal women's luggage, and, you know, I
- [158:30]
Charles
was gonna clean that up good. Yeah.
- [158:32]
De
Like, he might have been a genuine expert, but he's insane. It took him committing, like, multiple felonies for him to get, like, fired.
- [158:40]
Pete
Right.
- [158:41]
De
And no leftist was like, well, I mean, he's crazy. But now they're like, oh, he's an embarrassing, crazy criminal. Prison. So we're gonna have to just quietly let him, you know, go away. Whereas if, like, I applied for a job with the Trump administration, right, Like, I'd be doxed. And then they scream around, like.
- [159:00]
Charles
And here's the worst part of it, like, I'm gonna soft disagree with you, Pete, but it's going to be a very soft disagreement in the sense of, I agree with you that they would never let a guy like D into the system.
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Pete
I agree with that.
- [159:15]
Charles
But I think, I think it's. Again, this is not a pedanticism. It's. Yes. And I think the right wouldn't let D in because he's a radical. The left wouldn't let D in because he's normal. He's a normal guy. He's Got a wife, he's got kids, he has a job, he has friends, he has hobbies. And I think that's why the left wouldn't let him in. I agree that the right wouldn't let him in for political reasons, but I think the left. Just because he's normal.
- [159:47]
Pete
What do you think about that, D?
- [159:50]
De
I think you're both correct to a certain extent, because look, look at the guy who shot Trump. I mean, just a, just a dysgenic free show. And, you know, I've had friends harassed, I've had friends thrown in jail, I've had people I've corresponded with, you know, like, thrown in prison for private speech in the UK or other places. And I gotta worry constantly about, you know, private intelligence agencies, like, trying to find out where I live and kill me. And that's not, that's not to like, brag or be hyperbolic or anything. Like, look at, look at what they're doing to people, you know, and because I've always known what time it is because I've been saying for years that it's 1936 in Spain. The, the Nuremberg regime saw what happened in Spain. And forgive me, Pete, I can't remember, was it the Rockettes who were the Carlist, you know, men's clubs that basically formed the nuke? Okay, so the Raquetes, right? If you're old enough to remember the 90s, you know, the American militia movement was a bunch of constitutional patriots who, like, the Cold War is over. Why don't we go back to being a republic, not an empire again, like Patrick Cannon said. And the empire said, no, we like being an empire. And they said, okay, well then we're going to train to defend ourselves because we don't trust you. And what did they do? They destroyed it.
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Pete
Right?
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De
We don't even have the Roquetes like they did in 1936. Now maybe we have chat groups and there's other things going on, but the, the Nuremberg regime, whether it's because I'm normal or because I'm a well known, you know, open white nationalists, open, you know, openly, don't, you know, call me a fascist. I don't care, you know, like, or just because I'm a normal dude who knows what I'm talking about, it doesn't really matter. What they're upset about is that I would, or any of us would be in a position to advocate for normal people and tell the truth. And that's what's not acceptable.
- [161:48]
Charles
Right?
- [161:49]
De
Because the Nuremberg regime exists to prevent our listeners, our fans Our readers, normal people from advocating for their own interests in the political sphere.
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Charles
I'll back up your point about the militias because I personally know about that in the sense of I was in federal law enforcement in 1998, so I remember getting the memos and the alerts and stuff. And by and large they were all about the, as you say, the militias. And I'm just thinking to myself, really, a bunch of guy white dudes in Montana. And I wasn't even anywhere near as right wing as I am now, but even then I thought it was kind of silly. Like you're worried about 12 guys in Montana, you're worried about 30 guys in the middle of, you know, Arkansas or whatever. Really, these guys aren't even leaving their compound. They're not even training with any kind of explosives. They're just, they're marching up and down 12 acres or whatever. Really, this is our, this is what we're worried about. And then, you know, a few years later the planes hit the towers and I'm just thinking, yeah, boy, good thing we were watching all those white guys the middle of Mississippi. Boy, that sure stopped something, didn't it?
- [163:00]
Pete
You got anything, Jose?
- [163:03]
Jose
I think one thing to note is
- [163:08]
Pete
that
- [163:10]
Jose
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- [163:32]
Jose
like venomous rhetoric and like incitements to violence by the corporate media is actually going towards his supporters. I've noticed this especially among these Jewish pundits. They're much more scared of Trump supporters, more so than Trump himself, because just looking at his first administration, he proved to be somewhat controllable. But if you look at like some of these incidents in the last year or so of like the FBI just like gunning down Trump supporters, like that one guy like in Utah, and then the culmination of this, and actually you can even go back to 2020, that Trump support getting gunned down in Oregon, it's not an exaggeration to say that any type of individual that's like a Trump support or like right wing coded individual that is like on a public platform, a public square or whatever, they're very much fair game. And especially it's, it's like a gang type of thing. Like you have like a gang sign, then you're you're very much liable to being targeted. And this is just like politics reverting to its natural state. There's no time for debate any longer.
- [165:01]
Stormy
Right.
- [165:03]
Jose
It's gonna get even, like, nastier.
- [165:07]
De
And debates are for people who share base premises like.
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Charles
Yeah, very well put. Very well.
- [165:13]
De
Yeah. Like, there's the type one disagreements and type two disagreements, and I can't remember which one's which.
- [165:18]
Pete
But we're.
- [165:19]
De
We're dealing with people who literally think that a dude in a dress should be able to throw on a Dr. Like a. Forgive me, Charles. I'm gonna doxy just a little bit. Like, you're a big hairy dude. Like, you know, and if you want to call yourself Charlene, you get to throw in a Sundance
- [165:38]
Pete
and then.
- [165:39]
De
And then go change in the same locker room as my kid is my daughter. It's like, no, that's not happening.
- [165:44]
Pete
Yeah. No.
- [165:47]
Charles
Fair point. You're not. You're not wrong. You're not. And.
- [165:50]
De
And. And. And the people who. Right. You know. Oh, like, you know, why did you miss. And it's like, no, we're not. We're not living with people who can be reasoned with. Like, you can't reason. These people weren't reason into this. You know, Thomas. Last night, Thomas and Pete and I were supposed to talk about the Autobahn, and then this happened, so we didn't. But one of the things that Thomas talked about that I think is really important is the infotainment complex. Right, Right. I thought about this quite a bit yesterday. How much trouble could be avoided if just one true thing, one hate fact, not all of the hate facts, not the truth about Jews, not the truth about blacks.
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Stormy
Just.
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De
Just pick any one major hate fact out there in the world. Like the truth about iq, for instance.
- [166:36]
Charles
Yeah.
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De
How much trouble in our society would instantly evaporate.
- [166:42]
Charles
Right. Well. Right. Exactly. What did I say in our. In our. In our little group chat that. That sets these meetings up? What did I say? What was the. I was a little proud of my little pithy phrase. Racism is its own reward, you know?
- [166:55]
Pete
Yes.
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Charles
I haven't. You know, I. You know, I don't get mugged. I don't get cheated, you know, because I stay out of the wrong neighborhoods. I don't do business with certain people. You know, Now I. Has that made my life perfect? No, but I. Growing up in bad neighborhoods and around certain people and stuff like that, I can tell you it saved me more heartache than I could ever possibly quantify. Ever possibly quantify. So that this is me Saying yes, and you're absolutely correct. Just, Just one true fact. Pick anyone you want. Iq, a penchant for violence, low time preference, high time preference, whatever you want. You pick anything you want. And we can, we can start turning problems away overnight. But this goes back to the thing we were discussing a while back, which is the whole. We could turn this whole country around or at least 80% of it. What did we say in two years? I think we said two to five years, something like that.
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De
Oh, yeah. One presidential term.
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Pete
Yeah.
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De
Easy, right?
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Charles
We could turn 80% of it around. All we have to do is start taking the truth. You've said this before and I've held on to it, and I, I think it's absolutely brilliant. You said the three greatest things that America contributed to the world, to world history and world culture, where westerns, tabletop role playing games, and Alcoholics Anonymous. And I think that is absolutely 100% correct. Because alcoholics Anonymous gives one of the greatest things ever. First, you have to admit there's a problem.
- [168:23]
De
Yep.
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Charles
And it seems so simple, it seems so childlike that it's like, oh, that's, that's ridiculous. So that's ludicrous. Everybody knows that. It's like. Do you, though?
- [168:33]
Pete
Do you?
- [168:34]
Charles
Because how much of life really is just right?
- [168:38]
De
How much of, of, you know, like the FBI is listening to this show.
- [168:44]
Pete
Right.
- [168:45]
De
Guaranteed.
- [168:46]
Charles
Right.
- [168:46]
De
The. The FBI has been listening to everything I've ever done for five years.
- [168:51]
Tyler Redick
Right.
- [168:51]
De
Longer than that. Like, I've been doing this for. Since 2014 or so. So somewhere in the battles, the NSA is like a file with every word I've ever said into a microphone on it.
- [169:02]
Charles
Yep. And a server in Utah with every word of it recorded too. Yeah.
- [169:07]
De
And instead of being like, wow, you know, this guy that just wants, like, things to function again, we're gonna pay real close attention to him. But these violent communists that look like extras from a carney, you know? Yeah, yeah, like, like rejected from like the ugliest man in the world tent. This, this. We're not going to pay attention to those people, like, who, who does the violence. Right. The raquetes didn't do anything until they're like, oh, hey, they burned down a bunch of churches and killed a nun. I guess it's time to saddle up.
- [169:41]
Charles
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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De
I mean, listen, listen again to. I think it's episode two or three where Pete goes into July of 1936, where everything hopped, kicks off. Correct me if I'm wrong, Pete, please. But, like, listen to that. Not once, not Twice. Listen to that. Two and three times. My cop. My personal copy of of Last Crusades dog eared his from this particular. Like, I've read it over and over and over again.
- [170:12]
Pete
July is. July is about 55 pages long.
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De
Yeah.
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Pete
And it's. It's episode. I think it's episode three and four of my reading.
- [170:20]
De
Yeah, right. Read that more than once. Because this like the right wing did not swing into action until it was 100 clear that there was no getting along with these people. There was no reason with them. There was no motives for vendi you could come to.
- [170:42]
Charles
Well. Right. This is why I. Right. And this is why I hope that this bullet is a big lesson for Trump and not just another reason for him to self aggrandize and be like, see, I'm bulletproof. It went right by me. You can't take out the king. It's like, no, no, don't use this as an opportunity for hubris. Use this as a. These people are serious, like civil. This is not just a civil disagreement anymore. This is not just mean tweets. They are going to kill you. Now, maybe you're a 78.
- [171:23]
Pete
Maybe you.
- [171:23]
Charles
Now, maybe you're a 78, 79 year old billionaire with an absolutely gorgeous wife, beautiful children, a yacht and all that. Maybe you're ready to die. Maybe you're like, I've done plenty with my life. I've done everything I've ever set out to do. I may okay with dying, and you know what, that's fine. But it's not about you anymore. You are the. You are the head of a movement. You are the head. You are the figure piece of an entire zeitgeist, if you will.
- [171:55]
Jose
Right?
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Pete
Yeah.
- [171:55]
Charles
It's like. It's not about you, bro. You cannot get killed. You cannot. And I don't mean cannot as in it's impossible. Let me be very, very clear. I'm trying to say take this gift from God. Because anybody with any sense in their head knows it was sheer will of God that he survived. And I'm not going to presume to know why God saved him, whether he's. Whether for good or for ill, that's. I am not God. I can't answer for Him. But he was saved by God, just like Rittenhouse was. And I will die on this hill. I will die on this hill. But I hope he takes it seriously. Because I'm going to tell you gentlemen, and if we get into it a little later, I will go into more detail. But every man listening, the sound of My voice best have his Garden of Gety moment. Now, tonight, tomorrow night, this week. But you best have your Garden of Gethsemane moment. You have to know fate is coming for you, and you have to get ready that it may be extremely, extremely unpleasant. But you also have to know Deus Vault. This is not about you, bro. It's about you.
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De
It's not about Trump.
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Pete
Right, Right.
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Charles
And if our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ had to go to the cross, then you do, too. Then you do, too. I'm not saying sacrifice yourself needlessly. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying have your Garden of Gethsemane moment. Know that this may be coming for you. Be spiritually ready for it. The one good part, the one good scene in Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade is when Indy is beating the crap out of these guys that were chasing him on boats. And he's got him. And I still remember the scene sends chills down my spine. And he's punching this dude in the face, and this giant. This giant propeller is just turning and turning, chopping up the boat that they're in, and it's this big, like, tanker or something and his little small wooden boats getting chopped up, and they're getting closer and closer to the blade. And Andy just pulls his hand back to punch this guy in the face one more time. And the guy just looks up at him, bleeding, and he says, my soul is prepared. Dr. Jones, how is yours? And then Jones jumps off the boat with him. And that's. That's what you have to understand. Be ready, because I promise you, I promise you, it is coming.
- [174:27]
Tyler Redick
And.
- [174:27]
De
And these people don't even. I put it on Telegram. These people hate you. If you're listening to this, they really hate you. They really, really. I guarantee you they have files on all four of us. And any, like, anybody that's appeared on Peach show in the last two years, there's somebody with a file on. Guaranteed.
- [174:52]
Charles
Yep. And much, much to my regret, I do not have children. But I would be willing to hazard a guess, and that is if. If. If you turn your head right now, if you are a parent and you look at your child and you think about how much they mean to you and how much you love them. Invert that. That's how much these people hate you.
- [175:15]
De
Yes.
- [175:15]
Pete
And.
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De
And they hate you. They hate Trump. Not because he's secretly reading Mein Kampf and has read the entirety of the doctrine of fascism and has pictures of Jose Antonio and, you know, Otis Corzani and Stuff in his bedroom or something.
- [175:33]
Pete
No,
- [175:35]
De
they hate Trump because they think he's. That. They, they. There are people who are cheering the death of that man right now because he was a Trump supporter and a Nazi.
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Pete
Like.
- [175:48]
De
No, they said the same thing about Rush Limbaugh.
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Charles
Yeah, I'm.
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De
I'll say the same. They'll say the same thing. You know, there are people who celebrate the death of John McCain because I thought he was a Nazi.
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Charles
You know, like, I'm just gonna. Mystery Grove's attitude. I'm just going to go with. I'm going to keep riding Mystery Grove's attitude. All the ideology is just window dressing. They hate Trump because he sleeps next to a beautiful woman and wakes up and has breakfast with kids that love him. That's why they hate him. And they hate him because people like him. They hate him because he has friends. Now, there's plenty of guys in this room that don't like him for other reasons, that he's obloviator, that he doesn't keep. Keep his word. He doesn't do this. He's not. He's not faithful to his wife, you know, whatever. Okay? And those are all valid, but the reason these people hate him is because he's successful and he wants all boats to rise with the tide. There are many things I can say bad about him, but everyone who knows him to a man will say he is one of those guys that wants to raise all boats with.
- [176:56]
Jose
With the tide.
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Charles
And I think that's obvious. I don't think it's a. I don't think it's an act. I think it's genuine. I think he does, and I. That's why they hate him, and that's why they hate everybody else, because they're just. There's just something wrong and deeply broken in these people inside them that they can't get over. Whatever trauma they suffered, whatever. Or whatever pettiness or vileness they have, and it's just like they just have to destroy. Destroy something beautiful. And that's why you can't tolerate it. That's why you can't tolerate it. That's why tolerance is not a Christian virtue. Charity, mercy, all those. Yeah, they're Christian virtues. Tolerance is not. Tolerance is absolutely not right.
- [177:39]
De
It can't be.
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Charles
Can't be. Because that's why. Because once you let it get a foothold, it doesn't stop.
- [177:45]
Pete
God. Finish up, D. Because I'm gonna. I'm gonna move the subject along. I'm going to change the subject.
- [177:50]
De
Okay, Well, I was Just going to say that tolerance is what led to, you know, the totally incompetent Secret Service that made this possible in the first place. Regardless of what, where you think the incompetence lies, it was tolerance that led to the institution getting captured by leftists or tolerance that led, you know, fat women be on the President, the presidential detail or whatever.
- [178:13]
Charles
I have a lot to say about that. I actually, but we'll, we'll move on.
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Pete
Yeah, well, yeah, let's, let me give. Jose, do you have anything to finish on that subject? Anything to close with on that subject?
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Jose
Yeah, I, I would just add on that, like Trump, whatever his political failings, which are many, he is like an avatar of a normal European, white, European America that is increasingly becoming an afterthought. And the very fact that somebody like him could actually get elected freaks people out. And especially if these people are real, get really freaked out when there are other people that kind of look like him and hold the same values, start mobilizing collectively and try to express some form of political will. And that's what really gets these people going and to the point where these, these freaks will use straight up political violence to impose their will on us. And best believe there's gonna be plenty of copycats like now after this incident because they're gonna think, oh, I, I, I, like if this person got so close, I could do it. There's gonna be a lot of one upping or they'll settle for the consolation prices of killing Trump supporters too, because there's plenty of jurisdictions in the US where they can actually get away with it, to literally get away with murder. So.
- [179:41]
Charles
Yep.
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Jose
Yeah.
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Pete
Cosign 101 of the reasons, one of the reasons my throat is so sore right now is I was doing a live stream for about an hour and a half before this.
- [179:54]
Charles
I caught it.
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Pete
I, I, I, I was sort of yelling at the top of my lungs because, yeah, I was kind of, kind of angry.
- [180:03]
Charles
No, no, not so you never write. It's just, I'm just trying to be little levity, that's all.
- [180:10]
Pete
But you know, one thing that I noticed as soon as this happened, I noticed that this was like a once in a generation opportunity. Like this is something that changes the narrative. It's something that you can take and you can start pushing your own narrative. And something I immediately saw was that people started jumping into people on our side. And I will say you're going to see it from, quote unquote, content creators on our side, quote unquote, who wanted to this Is, dude, how do you get up there? Did someone put a ladder for him there? Did you see that? Did you see the one guy who, like, stood down and like, he didn't shoot until he. I took the first shot. Is that guy, Is that guy a Jew? He. Did you see, did you see his bracelet? I think he was a Jew and I think that's why he didn't do it. And it's like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? If you.
- [181:13]
De
I have a perfect analogy.
- [181:16]
Pete
Go ahead.
- [181:17]
De
So the establishment conservatives are. And they'll, they'll talk about the right shake fire as if, like Hitler said it. And of course, actually the communists did it. Right? And they were right. Oh, he's going to use this as reg. Shake fire mode. This is exactly analogous, you know, the. Yeah, people who are too dumb to know what the hell's going on. Like, no, Communists must be crushed. The entire antifa network needs to be ricoed.
- [181:45]
Charles
Yep, absolutely.
- [181:47]
De
They need to. They need to have all their associations planned out. They need to be charged under the various felonies they commit every day, including drug use in massive numbers, drug trafficking, human trafficking, you know, violence, terrorism, like, you name it, they need to be charged with it and thrown in prison. Any of their attorneys that are probably also committing felonies, a lot of them, they need to be disbarred, bankrupted, and then thrown in prison. And any of their media people, any of their collaborators in media or academia, they need to lose their jobs and be bankrupted and thrown in prison because they're committing crimes and trying to destroy society.
- [182:27]
Charles
Right, right, Agreed.
- [182:31]
Pete
So, yeah, so my whole point was, is I put it in one of my private chats. I said, you know, understand that the people who want to expose this as a conspiracy are woefully ignorant of how to use this strateg strategically. This is a game changer that they wish to. That all, all they're doing is diffusing it by, by trying to. Oh, well, where did the bullet come from? You know, and you know, one of my friends said, he said the narrative, the only narrative is the left and the media have blood on their hands. After years of advocating for political violence. Right. They were inches away from, they were inches away from blowing Trump's head off on live TV and would have celebrated in the streets if they did. They want you dead.
- [183:16]
Charles
Right.
- [183:17]
Pete
And that's that. That's it. You know, they tried to kill Trump. They took out a chud. And they're celebrating that now. They may not be celebrating it publicly. But they're celebrating it privately. I don't care. I don't care where the, you know where the bullet came from. I don't care. You know, as far as I'm concerned, the Secret Service good man and a
- [183:39]
De
good American who threw his self himself between his wife and his daughter in front of bullets, got killed. Literally communist.
- [183:47]
Charles
Yeah, like. Like literally communist piece of. Literally threw himself in front of bullets.
- [183:52]
De
If you think that it's funny or whatever or you are ironic distance or Trump supporters are cringe. You that man. You deserve. You just
- [184:05]
Pete
that guy. Yeah.
- [184:07]
Tyler Redick
Yeah.
- [184:07]
De
You need to radically. If you're on supposedly on my side of the fence and you're not pissed as hell that this good man was killed by a communist piece of. You're completely wrong.
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Charles
Yeah. And something Pete said in the, in the broadcast this afternoon that the solo broadcast that you did or this afternoon, Pete, I think you're 100% right. When somebody brought up a statue to this fellow compatur, they said, oh, put up. Well, that might be seen as, as taking advantage of the moment and making use of a tragedy. It's like, well, and so who gives a ridiculous. We put ridiculous. George Floyd Right there's right. Like who the are you to tell
- [184:53]
Jose
me this is ridiculous symbolism, not abstractions.
- [184:56]
Charles
Now give a. I don't give a shit what you interpret my political motivations to be. This guy literally threw himself. This isn't a metaphor. He literally threw himself in front of bullets to shield his wife and child. Give the guy a statue. I don't like. I mean, how are you going to look me in the face and look at like half of the statues that we get? Half of the public. Public air quotes art. We get. You're going to look me in the face and say now all of a sudden I need to worry about what we're putting up? Like, that's just ludicrous. Get the out of here. Don't piss on my shoe and tell me
- [185:34]
Pete
take.
- [185:35]
Charles
Yeah.
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Jose
Don't politicize the situation.
- [185:40]
Charles
Who says I'm politicizing it? Guy literally shielded his wife and daughter
- [185:44]
De
who said it was terrorism that killed
- [185:46]
Charles
him, was politically murdered. Yes, I agree. But what I'm saying is why do I, why does that. Why do I need to even mention that? Like, to me, it's like if I want to put a statue up for the guy, great, I'm gonna do it. I don't care what your opinion is.
- [186:02]
Jose
Yeah, we need more symbolism. We need heroes.
- [186:05]
Pete
Yeah.
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Charles
Like what? Like if, like I'm gonna step back to what you said, Pete, we have to take things two feet at a time, three feet at a time. Well, I want the eight feet. Feet that that guy's statue is going to stand on. That's the eight feet I'm going to choose because he's normal and he's. And he's here. And not only is he normal, he's super normal. He's heroic. So I. I want to laud that. I want to laud that. I'm not worried about the ideology. I'm worried about the culture. I want to celebrate a culture that rewards men for protecting their children, for protecting their wives. Like, that's what I'm. I want to do. Yes, you're absolutely right. He was killed by a communist freak. Yes, it was awful. Like, this is not a disagreement. But what I'm saying is I'm going back to Pete's point with. I'm just gonna take my three feet, my five feet, my eight feet at a time. This is what I want to celebrate. This is what I want to build. I want people walking through my fucking park pointing at that statue. And I want mom to look at the dad, or dad to look at the kid or mom to look at the kid and go, do you know who that is? Do you know why that's there? You know, I want. And I want that kid to think, hey, this is what the goal that I should live up to, to care that much, to sacrifice that much. That's where you get this stuff. You laud your heroes because of that. You don't have those 12 layers of irony, like, oh, bro, this and that. No, that's cringe. Fuck off with that. That's not a culture. That's just nihilism and nonsense.
- [187:38]
De
So that's.
- [187:39]
Pete
That's where the.
- [187:40]
Charles
That's what. That's my first three feet. That's my first five feet, my first eight feet. The pedestal that his statue stands on.
- [187:49]
Pete
You know, the fact that people are more interested in showing how clever they are. Right. Or. Yeah. I look at it this way. You know, I engage in conspiracy theories all the time, but I mean, I. I rarely ever talk about them on the show.
- [188:06]
Tyler Redick
Right.
- [188:06]
Pete
And, you know, in personal life, sure, you know, we can have. We can talk and have fun, but most of the people who I see engaging in conspiracy theories do so because they want to appear clever or like they have some kind of esoteric knowledge. You know, it's like, oh, I know something that you don't know. You know, and it's just this sort of smug you know, it's smug. That's all it is.
- [188:29]
Charles
Do you mind if I take the floor for a little bit on this? And I'm going to try and stay coherent, but as, as I suspect, and if I'm incorrect, please, please correct me. I suspect I'm the only guy that carries a gun for a living here. Is that correct, that, that any. Does anybody do side work in security or law enforcement, anything like that? Okay.
- [188:48]
Pete
I don't know.
- [188:49]
Charles
I suspect I'm the only one that's trained in executive protection. Is that correct or incorrect?
- [188:54]
Pete
Okay, that would be correct. Okay.
- [188:57]
Charles
All right, again, none of this has talked myself up. I meant I'm just trying to, I want to make sure that I don't try and overstep my balance. Okay. So I want to address a few of these, you know, points about, you're saying about conspiracy. It's like, all right, first off, I was in law enforcement. I was in federal law enforcement. If you want to say, well, this guy hesitated because, you know, he was a Jew or a Mason or he could got a special wink or a special handshake, okay, maybe that's possible. But I shave with Occam's razor twice a day. I shave with Occam's razor twice a day. And what Occam's razor tells me, as a guy that carries a gun for a living, as a guy that's been in law enforcement, as a guy that does executive protection, what that tells me is that really this guy hesitated because we live in such an over feminized world. He is terrified of his world collapsing because he shoots some kid that just wants to get a really good picture of President Trump. Oh, well, he saw the rifle, did he? I don't know. I wasn't there. But I can tell you, I know you can lose your job for doing your job. You can't lose your job for not doing your job in law enforcement. Pete, do you recall when we talked on the episode bordering on insanity, do you recall that you and me speaking back and forth about that?
- [190:23]
Pete
Yeah.
- [190:23]
Charles
Okay, right. Well, I was, this is the same thing I mentioned there. I didn't get fired for not doing my job. I got fired for doing my job. Now does that excuse this guy? No, that's not necessarily what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback when you're, you don't have any skin in the game when you weren't there. It's not your career on the line. It's not Your kids that are going to go without food. It's not you going to lose your house. Okay, I was willing to push back, but you know what? I've been broke ever since. You know what? I've been drifting from job to job ever since. It has. It cost me my potential marriage. It cost me kids. Dean knows this story about me quite well, and not a lot of guys are willing to do that. Am I saying I'm a hero for that?
- [191:14]
Stormy
No.
- [191:14]
Charles
What I'm saying, though, is it is, again, a Garden of Gethsemane moment. You either understand that you are willing to take death upon you, whether it be physical, financial, professional, social, whatever. You are willing to take death. And a lot of people aren't. They just aren't. And you only find out in those clutch moments when it really happens. And then somebody said that a cop was climbing up the ladder to go to the roof and he spotted him. Okay? They're like, oh, why didn't the cop do something? Have. Do you know how to climb up a ladder? You ever done any actual work? Well, climbing up a ladder takes both hands. What are you going to draw your gun with your teeth? Okay, so you're standing at the top of a ladder with both your hands on a ladder, and this guy spins around and puts a rifle in your face. What are you gonna do? Use harsh language? Tell him to put it down. You're just gonna get shot in the fucking face, dude. No, what you should do is get down a little bit and immediately call for. Call for everybody, hey, there's a guy on the roof. Shoot him.
- [192:17]
De
Shoot him.
- [192:18]
Charles
And then draw your weapon if you can, with your hand. Try and get up with one hand. But again, like, everybody wants to be Monday morning quarterback. And was there a lot of incompetence there? Absolutely no doubt. And keep in mind, like, if you want to talk about a conspiracy, I don't need to organize anything. All I got to do is put a bunch of dimwits and deis on your detail and let the public do the rest. Because if you want to know my attitude on this conspiracy, here's what it is, plain and simple. All it was was they spend years, literally years making this guy to be the worst thing since Adolf Hitler. You know, trademark the worst thing since Adolf Hitler, and then they just give him the worst of the worst of the Secret Service. All the people that probably would get fired in any other industry, and they just go, yeah, you work on his detail now. And then you let nature take its course.
- [193:14]
Jose
Course.
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Charles
Why? Because you didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. Oh, I was just reporting the news. You called him literally Hitler. Hey, we're allowed to make a comparison. Oh, you set him up. You planned this. No, I didn't. We gave him secret security detail. Secret Service detail.
- [193:31]
Pete
Yeah.
- [193:31]
Charles
Let's see their personal records. I wouldn't be. I would not be at all surprised to see a lot of them have been disciplined. Or a lot of them. This is their punishment detail. And then you just let fate take its course.
- [193:44]
Pete
I didn't know.
- [193:44]
Charles
I have no blood on my hands.
- [193:46]
Pete
I didn't do anything.
- [193:46]
Charles
Now, of course every man in this room knows they do. But I'm telling you, if you want anything, I would say it's let it happen syndrome.
- [193:56]
Jose
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De
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Jose
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Charles
They don't actually have to plan anything. They can just drum up violent rhetoric until some tranny or lunatic cross grabs a rifle and goes after him. And then they just put the worst of the worst on his detail and let nature take its course. Tirade over.
- [194:42]
Pete
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that, that is as plausible as everything. Everything else. I mean, it's amazing to me that you have people who will talk about the. How bad the like, competency crisis is. But no, obviously it wouldn't. Wouldn't affect Secret Service or government or anything like that.
- [195:05]
Jose
Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. That just makes them look like mix their theories look stupid. That, like, incoherence there. Oh, yeah, I. I got like, I tweeted in on your thread, Pete. Like, this conspiracy stuff, like, it was largely relevant in the 20th century. Like pulling off these complicated false flags was. Was relevant in the 20th century when you actually had like, skilled people in government. But dude, like these days, if there's a conspiracy that's being kicked off, it's largely being outsourced. Like the NGO space or like, some like, private, like, sector actor. Because, like, we're in the DEI Shaniqua state, man. Like there nobody there can bait. Can carry out the most Basic function.
- [195:58]
De
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Is the dmv. The head of the Secret Service is a fat woman.
- [196:03]
Charles
Yep. I mean, right, this is what I'm saying. Like this, that you're. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
- [196:10]
De
Like, or everywhere. Right, Right. Yeah.
- [196:13]
Charles
Like all they did was take an already crumbling, corrupt, useless organization and put the least useful members of it or on his detail, like that's all they have to do.
- [196:26]
De
If I was Donald Trump, I would be calling Eric Prince, right? I would have called him already and said, look, what's it going to take? You guys are now in charge of executive protection, you know, because, because I guarantee you Eric Prince knows people who could actually do the job.
- [196:42]
Charles
Well, here's. I think Thomas77 said this a while back and, and I, I believe he said this and he said, you know, if this was a sane country, we would be doing back what we did in the 40s and the 50s. We would be trying to get all the smart small town white guys to get back in government service. Like, like. And again, I don't say this to pat myself on the back, but this happened because I'm not there. They got, and I don't mean me necessarily personally, I'm an old guy now. So, you know, maybe I wouldn't have been able to do jack shit, but the point I'm making is you don't think they got rid of everybody like me or 90% of guys like me?
- [197:22]
De
Why do you think the SAT was invented? The SAT was literally invented to find those guys, right?
- [197:29]
Charles
Exactly, yes.
- [197:31]
De
Invented to find guys from small towns in Iowa, right, that had 130, 140, 150 IQs and get them to places where they could go to Stanford or.
- [197:41]
Pete
Right.
- [197:41]
De
And start Caltech or Harvard and put
- [197:43]
Charles
men on the moon or do whatever Thomas77 was saying. This was the same country. They would be. They would be using their resources to pull every smart white guy from around the country and they wouldn't be working for Elon Musk, they wouldn't be working for Boeing, they wouldn't be working for McDonnell Douglas. They'd be working for the government. Why? Because you want the best and brightest to, to go.
- [198:12]
De
Not only would they be working for the government, right, they'd make, there'd be, make. There'd be policies in place to make sure that they all had five kids or six kids, seven kids.
- [198:22]
Charles
Right. But I'm just saying I wanted to address what something Thomas777 had said. It was, it was. I just thought that was when he said that. It really hit me like a bolt out of the blue. I was like, this man is exactly right.
- [198:33]
De
Yeah, Thomas. Brilliant. People need to listen to him more. But, like, this is. I was. Sorry, I've been distracted. I was just literally arguing with someone who, you know, this Corey fellow was apparently active on Twitter and he. He was right about Ukraine. He was telling people to stop funding Ukraine and he was wrong about Palestine because, you know, he's a conservative white guy.
- [198:53]
Tyler Redick
Right.
- [198:53]
De
The problem isn't this guy has the wrong opinions. The problem is that he's been lied to for his entire life. He's 15 years old. He's 50 years old. So he was born in, like, 1975.
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Charles
Yep.
- [199:03]
De
1974.
- [199:04]
Charles
Yep.
- [199:06]
De
Okay. He was lied to his entire life, and he was never given a chance to listen to this show and learn
- [199:12]
Pete
the truth about
- [199:15]
Jose
political views is just out of pocket. I, I just like. I. Yeah, I just find, like, this whole, like, Internet smooth culture of just like, delving into, like, the minute details of his views. It's just. It's just really off putting, like, regard. Like, I think it's more important to talk about, like, the environment that the guy was brought in, like these. Mentioning that he's just been lied to, but he has, like, heroic instincts like any freaking normal human being has. And that's him. Being a freaking normal human being is sufficient grounds to be, like, persecuted in this bingo political order we live in.
- [199:56]
Charles
Bingo. That's exactly it. Right. And I want to step to something you're saying about him. D. Remember, I'm actually older than he was. If he was 50, I'm a year older than he was. So I can personally attest that, yes, I've been lied to my whole life. The only difference between he and I is that my. My life was burned down too. And that's why it's my handle, Whiskey and Ashes, and his wasn't. So I had to learn the hard way all the lies what they.
- [200:22]
De
All right. And, and I can attest to this because Charles and I kind of became anti Semites together in the last 10 years. Right. Like, neither one of us started out. You know, Pete and I did a show, like, January time frame about how I used to love Dennis Prager. And this guy was lied to by the same people who were talking of, like, oh, Trump had an incident. If Pete had Meet the Press like he deserves, and Jose Nino was the number one, you know, Latino columnist at the New York Times, right? Then this guy would know what's up. That's what that's what would happen. This guy, this guy wouldn't be, you know, he was just lied to for his whole life about the fact that the Israelis are our friends. I can't get mad at that guy for, for believing things that, like, he's not a bad guy by his, by. He showed the strength of his character by jumping in front of a bullet for his wife and his kid. So I, I, this, this good man deserves better than to be, you know, talked about in a derogatory fashion. Because that's who we're trying to save the country for.
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Charles
Exactly. Exactly.
- [201:40]
De
That's who, that's, that's who's going to build. Like, if we ever, if miracles happen and we somehow make this, make it so we're in charge. Good people are the same people are in charge again, that guys like that are gonna be the backbone of our society.
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Charles
They always were.
- [201:55]
De
They always have been, and they need to be respected and treated with some. And, and again, they didn't go after Donald Trump because he's a Nazi. They went after him because they think he would stand up for ordinary white people. That's why they went after him.
- [202:13]
Charles
Yes.
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Pete
The fact that he was competent, the fact that he had, you know, he could do a job that was, that he was competent at. The fact that he's probably a hero on more than one occasion. The fact that he had a family that he took care of. A lot of different facts is just, I mean, they hate that. I mean, they'd much rather that person can't. That person doesn't need them. You know, the, you know, the welfare, the welfare queen with five or six kids, you know, that's who they rely upon. That's their, that's their bread and butter. Their bread and butter is, Are the, you know, is it. I forget who had the tweet today, but it said you shoot into a crowd at a Trump rally and you hit a firefighter and a hero. You shoot into a crowd in Kenosha, Wisconsin, you hit a pedophile. Yeah. Yeah. And, and that's who they, you know, they'll never, they'll never build the statue to this guy. But they would, they don't mind. They would want to build a statue to, you know, the, These chomos that they, that they thought were black until the trial actually happened. Half of them didn't even know he was. Half of them didn't even know that they were Jewish.
- [203:42]
De
Jimmy Dore, who's, you know, slowly waking up. Guy on the left, I think we talked about him yesterday. Pete, like, he didn't know. He thought Kyle Rittenhouse was racist. He just didn't know because he paid attention to lefty media and they, you know, he heard this guy shot three people at a BLM rally and he thought he was racist. That's. And the, you know, Auron's been cooking lately and, you know, tap the sign. No matter how much you think you hate journalists, it's not enough, you know, prison company. Basically everyone who's ever been a reporter should be flogged just on general principle, because those lies are destroying our society and they're getting good people killed.
- [204:33]
Pete
Yep.
- [204:34]
De
Every day good people are getting killed and our society is going down the drain because these people know the truth and refuse to talk about it. Because they're Jews, because they're coming, because they're homosexual, because they're the people that Pete talked about. This, this, the left depends on because they're affirmative action DEI, you know, 350 pound black women with three inch nails.
- [205:03]
Pete
Yeah. You got something, Jose? No.
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Jose
Yeah, I want to double down on these calls to clamp down on journalists because I was cooking also on Twitter, like, just calling for the absolute destruction of corporate media. And like freaking clockwork, there was the typical libertarian counter signaling, like, oh, like this stuff is like downstream from like the government. I'm like, I don't care if it's like private sector or public sector. Like, I'm gonna like, we need to like, porch it. Regardless of like, how it's being carried, what capacity it's being carried out. And it's freaking. It's a cancer on our polity. Like. Yeah, that's all I have to say there.
- [205:50]
Pete
Yeah. And you know, another thing that, that I'm getting is when I was talking in my live stream today is, you know, you have people who are like, well, you know, Trump's not our guy. Trump's a zog. Trump's it. Really? You. You fucking think I don't know this? You think? I mean, come on, man.
- [206:09]
De
Yeah, add some insightful commentary or something.
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Pete
Yeah, yeah, it's like, really? Really. I mean, I had some agorist libertarian a couple weeks ago. You know, if. If you. If Trump gets elected, it's going to be a. It's a pressure release valve on the right. Really? Where'd you read that? Did you read that? Was I writing that on my sub stack like 2 years ago? Who the fuck do you think? You think I haven't thought about all this shit? You think we don't, you know? Yeah, I'm talking You know, it's also the guys from the ogc. You think we don't know that Trump's not our guy yet? But we're going to be like, they tried to kill him because he likes, because he likes the chuds.
- [206:54]
Charles
Right?
- [206:54]
Pete
Because they, they hate him because we like him.
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Charles
Right?
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De
Not even because we like him.
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Pete
Yeah.
- [207:01]
De
They hate him because we don't eat us. That's my right.
- [207:04]
Charles
Yes, that's it. That's it. Yeah. They hate him because he doesn't hate us.
- [207:07]
De
Exactly right.
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Charles
That's exactly it. And I stand by my statement. I'm not going to backpedal. They also hate him because he's just normal. I mean, for crying out loud, even Jimmy Dore, I had a great little blurb about him, about Trump versus Nancy Pelosi and they're like, how bad are you? This is Jimmy Dory's words, not mine. I'm paraphrasing of course, but you can find it. Jimmy Dory had a broadcast that I watched and it was, he was saying, how bad are you, Nancy Pelosi, that the average rural American identifies closer with Trump than he does with you, the guy that literally has gold plated toilets. And these people, these people flock to Trump over you, Nancy Pelosi. Like how far out of touch, how anti normal are you that they flock to him? It's like, exactly. Because, you know, Trump still has a wife, he has kids. He doesn't hate white people. I mean, he still always panders to all the other non whites, but he doesn't hate white people. You know, he's very much a civic nationalist. Again, I'm not saying these are necessarily laudable points of being a civil civic nationalist, but what I'm saying is they're far more normal than anybody, any of the other, anything the left can produce.
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Pete
Well, one of the, one of the great comments from my, my chat this afternoon at my Live Stream chat was someone named LS Said. Trump's politics aside, he's been a stand in for white people and our collective white will in the eyes of the enemy since he first started campaigning.
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Charles
Campaigning.
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Pete
This is an attack on us.
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Charles
Yeah. Oh, agree.
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Pete
He's not. He, he's a symbol, nothing more.
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De
Yeah, yeah.
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Charles
Well this goes back to what I said earlier in today's broadcast. I said that's why he can't die. If you roll it back. That's exactly what I said. I said that's why he can't die. I mean, that's why he, that's why it would be very bad if he did. Not that again. If you roll it back, I said, not that he obviously can be killed by a bullet, but, I mean, that's why he's important, because he is that symbol. He is that voice, and maybe it's not. Yes, I know. Everybody here knows. Yes, he's not our guy, but he's the closest thing we've had in what, D. 100 years? You know, something like that.
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De
70, 50, at least. Nixon, Kennedy.
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Charles
Yeah, yeah.
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De
Look what happened to both them.
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Charles
Bingo.
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Pete
Now, will this radicalize him? You know, one of the things that I said today on Twitter was, you know, he's. From what I understand, he's going straight to Milwaukee today, so he'll be there for a couple days before he gives his speech. He'll be. He'll be out of the public eye. It would be awesome if they wrote him this in, like, the best speech we've heard in a hundred years, where he just calls these people out for what they did, you know, and, you know, basically says the stuff that we're saying, and he goes on the offensive against these people. Even if he doesn't. This is still a narrative that we can use. Yes, this is still a narrative. This is still our narrative.
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Charles
Yes.
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Pete
We don't. In the end, the same people who will say, you know. Well, you know, Trump can't say, can't save us. When you talk about narrative, they're like, well, you. You know, you need a politician. No, you don't. You don't need a politician to push a narrative. Right. And the same people, they make it seem like we believe that a politician is actually coming to save us.
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Charles
Right.
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Pete
I don't think any of us believe that.
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Charles
No. Put not your trust in princes. The Bible itself says that. Not your trust in princes. Was that grown from me, Jose, or was that from.
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De
This wasn't true?
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Jose
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I would add to some of these people is that they needed to start, like, assuming their historical role altogether, because a lot of things are up for grabs, to be honest. Here. There. This is not. The system that we see before our eyes is actually unraveling, and people are gonna have to step up the plate or else somebody else will, and it's probably gonna be some up actor or. Or in some cases, some controlled opposition. And I think this is. This is the time for heroes, not people sitting on the sidelines or typing from their computers. And you can do this in many ways, too, whether it's actually producing good content or, like, getting out there, like in the political realm and acquiring the necessary experience to actually become a net positive there. But the, like, these types here, I, I just think that like they, the system ultimately wants you to be just another depersonalized bug man. And the system that's doing nothing like, that's just contributing to this overall epistemic pollution of bad takes and
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De
I guess
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Jose
like letting things go as they are. But I, I do believe that I, I actually do take some pleasure in just watching the system collapse because it's gonna force people to go back to their primordial animalistic tendencies of going back to like a hard politics because I want the system to, to unravel and we need, we need people to like actually stop being pussies and actually get, get ready to inflict pain on these degenerates.
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De
Amen. I've got a, another engagement, gentleman. I, I, good conversation. I gotta duck out, but this is, it's over. Whatever, whatever Nuremberg regime nonsense they're going to talk about. Like, I, I will, I no longer regard, I, I didn't think the 2020 election was legitimate. Ordinary people now see the system for what it is and I, I just don't, I don't, don't know what comes next. But there's no chance after this that the average Trump supporter is going to accept a Biden victory. They just, they're just not and they shouldn't and we'll see how it plays out.
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Charles
But
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De
seeing all these people on Tick tock lose their minds like, like they, they know that they want that. They don't hate Trump, they hate them, they hate ordinary people, they hate saying people, they hate healthy people, they hate people to go to church. So it's gonna, it's gonna be a very fraught few months and like Charles said, you know, make your peace with the fact that, that it could be anytime and be prepared.
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Pete
Yeah. Well, if you're going to get out of here, man, thank you for, thank you for showing up. And I think we're going to wrap up too, because, yeah, I think, I think we're at about an, an end here. I'll give, I'll give everybody a chance to drop any other opinions they have on what's going on and then, then we'll end this. So if you need to dip out deep. Thank you. Thank you for showing up again. I appreciate it. All right, Charles, you have anything you want to end up end with?
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Charles
No, I think, I think everything's been covered pretty clearly. I just wanted to make a few points regarding the earlier. I wanted to make a few points about the potential conspiracy theories and I side with you largely on all of it. I think that's the wrong direction to head in. And the right direction is to make the utmost use of the this as we can. And just to reiterate, and I'll drop it after this, but just to reiterate once again, this is an existential fight. This is. I really don't believe it's about ideologies. I'm going to lean on the mystery, the famous, the now famous mystery grove. Tweet everything out. The ideology is just window dressing. This is the ugly, deformed freaks wanting to destroy everything that is beautiful and good and, and everything else is just window dressing. And just be, be, be ready. This is the garden of gets them any moment for many of us. So be ready.
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Pete
What do you got, Jose?
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Jose
I would just like to reiterate that we are witnessing a system collapse contrary to what some people who say, like the, that the American empire has a good, like, multiple decades in it. I don't believe that at all. I actually do think that we are witnessing an unraveling of the system. And as a result, you're going to see a breakdown in political norms where basic legislative functions and all of that are just not going to take place. And as a result of that, you're going to see extra political forms of violence and other forms of conflict manifest themselves across the US in the ensuing decades. And hard, like, very, like crude forms of primitive politics are going to emerge. And people must be ready for this because we've been way too conditioned since World War II to there's like, Mr. Smith goes to Washington or Schoolhouse Rock type politics where things happen in like, an orderly, like, polite manner. That's going to go out the window soon, man.
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De
And people are going to have to
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Jose
like, learn actual skills where they have to band together. They can no longer hide behind computers or engage in abstractions. They're going to have to like, build stuff together. They're going to have to, like, commit selfless acts of like, heroism like, like this guy at the Trump rally did, because the days of deracinated individualism and mindless consumerism are over. You're going to have to fight for like, a much like, higher purpose and interact with people and build like, solidarity. Because you can't do that. You pretty much lost because most politics is organized in nature and those who can dish out organized violence more effectively are the ones who end up winning in the end.
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Pete
That's a great message. That's great. That's a Great way to put it, Jose. Yeah, the, you know, if you want to start taking back that, that first foot, that yard that, you know, that hundred yards, that mile, you're not gonna be able to do it alone. You're going to have to find people to do it with. No reconquest, no conquest was taken alone. You need someone, you need people there. So, you know, when Jose says this whole deracinated individualism, this, this classical liberal liberty libertarianism, it's dead. It's dead. It's dead and gone. I mean, it's just, it's time for
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Jose
great men and people assuming historical roles.
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Pete
Yeah. And you know, you can try to make great men out of people who are telling you that you. Oh, you know, you deserve to, to be left alone and. Yeah, but if they're not willing to, if they're not willing to become a bulwark, a literal physical bulwark and start to work with you to do that, they're not, they're not great men. They're just. They're selling you something. They're selling you something or they're just, they're miss. They're as misguided. They're as misguided as you are. And I hate to say that because I like a lot of people who preach that message, but at this point in time, after what we saw yesterday, I mean, taking that shot at Trump, no matter what you thought happened,
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De
the
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Pete
whole idea behind that is to take a shot at you. If you don't agree with them and that bullet was meant for you, they're just, I mean, they hate Trump because they see him as a stand in for what you are, what you believe, for who you are. And yeah, to, to believe that you can allow this regime to just keep, you know, gaining power, but also destroying everything. It just. If they're going to destroy, you have to build and well said. That starts. That starts with the first. With the first foot to first yard.
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Stormy
Yep.
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De
And yeah, Recon key said is.
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Pete
Yeah, we're. We are. We are at Reconquista, at the Reconquista stage. So, yeah, that's it. Gentlemen, thank you for joining me. And yeah, until the next time.
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Charles
Thank you, Pete. Thank you very much.
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De
Thank you so much.
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Stormy
Take care.
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Pete
And the thought crime syndicate is back. Back. How are you gentlemen doing? Who wants a. Who has something that's on their mind that's so pressing they want to jump in with the subject?
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De
Good to be here, Pete. Thanks so much for having me. Again, just, just to recap real quick, nothing ever happens, which is why since the last time we recorded a month ago, there's been an assassination attempt with the probable assistance of the Secret Service. A couple. The Olympics where Satanism beginning to end and it looks like a race where it's kicking off in the uk. Did I miss anything?
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Pete
Nothing ever happens. Come on. This. That's ridiculous. I don't think you missed anything there. The.
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Jose
Just a normal day.
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Pete
Yeah, well, the, A lot of people are bringing up the fact that like Trump now he's posting videos on Twitter again and a lot of people are upset that he's not using. There's only one video that I really saw where he used the assassination. What do you think? Should he just be, I mean, should that be something. He should just. Every video and every time he speaks, he should be talking about that and, and just staying on that one subject.
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Charles
I'm a bit torn on that topic. I, I can kind of see both sides of the fence. Not to be wishy washy, but to be genuine. I, I can see tried kind of over playing the hand, if you will. But I think it would behoove him to at least keep it in the public mindset. I don't, I don't know if that would involve. I'm not a marketing expert, I'm, I'm not a positioning expert when it comes to things like that, but I just think it would behoove him to continually reference it at the very least. If not, maybe not use the video all the time or constantly talk about it 24 7. But definitely keep it in the public mindset because it is important. It really is. As, as it's been said many times, they're not after him, they're off, they're after us. He's just in the way. And I think it's true. I 100% believe it to be true.
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De
That's what I would. Yeah, that's, that's, that's what I would. That's what I would. That's the message I would be sending constantly. I'd be sending, you know, I would cut images of the border being invaded. I just saw a video of like cartel people dropping off on like wave riders or ski doos dropping people off in the beach in San Diego. I'd super cut a bunch of that along with a bunch of the Muslims carrying knives and stuff walking down the street in the UK and all that. And then I'd say, you know, and then show that, say they're not after us or they're not after me, they're after all of us and then just, you know, Trump 2024.
- [223:46]
Pete
Yeah, I think that he's, it seems like his campaign or he had decided that they were going to try and hold stuff back and, you know, basically not let Trump be Trump like he was in 2016. I think the hiring of Corey Lewandowski and a couple other people this week signal that he may, they may be ready to let him go off leash. I honestly think they're just waiting for the, the dnc, the Democrat National Convention to be over. Because if you can just sit back for, for a few more days and let that pop off and see whether, you know, all of these pro Palestinian protesters show up and cause like 1968 type of riots, then you have a ton of stuff to play off of. You have, I mean, that'll just show you, that'll. This is the, this is what you're going to get. You're going to get chaos if these people win. If the, if the cackling hen and the henpecked husband who doesn't have an opinion outside of his wife and every female friend that he has, if they, if you elect them, this is our future. And just, you know, hopefully they have some like 1968 type fire hose footage or something like that.
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Charles
Well, remember in 2016, remember that they put a fence around the DNC so that all the Bernie people couldn't get, couldn't get in. And I mean, remember like, what was it, 50% of the delegates walked out, if I'm recalling correctly. I remember watching it and just cackling like a madman. I was glued to watching it, but they never really capitalized on that and I thought that was.
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Charles
Again, they, they didn't capitalize on it. And again, I thought that was one of the many mistakes that he and his people had made throughout the beginning of their tenure and beyond. So I hope they learn from the mistake there and take your advice here in Capital Capitalize on whatever may happen this time around. But I think, I think it would be good to keep in mind that there was a lot of drama, if you will, and a lot of opportunity in the 2016 DNC that they just simply didn't capitalize upon. But I'm hoping that they'll take your advice here.
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Jose
Overall, I think the Trump campaign needs to avoid, in my opinion, turning this into just some boring debate about public policy and start using like, much more visceral imagery and just more like primitive appeals the population that we're dealing with, an opposition that are just a bunch of savages that are gonna unleash chaos and bash our heads in if we don't push them back. And I think the DNC convention, the, the DNC will provide a ton of content to riff off of, especially with a lot of these pro Palestine protesters and disgruntled leftists that are probably going to wreak havoc because, like, Chicago is going to have like a lot of those in scores. And I think it would be a total folly by the Trump campaign by go going the high road and turning this into some boring policy debate as opposed to like, just showing that, like, what we're dealing with here is America versus anti America on the other side.
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Charles
Excellent point.
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Pete
You got something to eat?
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De
Well, I think that there's a, I think Jose is completely right. And it, I, I've heard from multiple people that they're not actually aimed at getting, you know, the 5 to 10% of the black. But whatever they say that they're going to get, what they're aimed at is like, suburban women who are milk toast about, like, not wanting nice white suburban ladies. And that might be true. And it disgusts me that, you know, for the last 50 years, the presidency has been decided by whoever made the most, you know, housewives in Ohio and Pennsylvania, you know, feel funny, but that's, that's the absurdity of the, you know, society we live in. And as I've said for years, you know, nothing is going to get fixed long term until we repeal the 19th amendment. But that's a separate discussion. What you need to do is make it clear to voters that this election is not about, and I have plenty of criticisms, Donald Trump. No, we need, we need to bring tons of people in with AI. Like, no, actually it's a complete opposite of that. Donald Trump is messaging completely wrong. But this election is about, are we going to have a civilization or are we not? Those are our choices. It's a 50 50, you know, and the United States will not survive as a functional entity. If we get another 20 million freeloaders who are of mestizo or African racial stock here and keep spending money like we've been spending money, without any real growth in the private sector, the United States will fall apart. And most of our states aren't in a position to be able to do the local thing and actually survive. Alabama Governor K. Ivey, right. She's not actually prepared to do what would be necessary to make Alabama function absent massive amounts of federal dollars, just for example. So this, this election is, is actually really important. I know that. Well, four years they say this is the most important election ever, but actually this one actually is pretty important because as Charles pointed out, they're not after Donald Trump. They're after you. Look, look at what's happening in England. Do you think police in the United States are any less hostile to ordinary white people? How many, how many, how many kids, how many little kids have been killed in the United States by immigrants or by just black criminals? And if white people in, you know, when Canada, Hinman was killed, if white people in, you know, I think it was South Carolina. But if every time a white person was just needlessly slaughtered by an illegal immigrant, if white people got out there and rioted and started burning down, you know, Iglesia de lo, immigration, church, whatever, do you think the cops wouldn't just start beating the out of white people? I mean, they're just as hostile here. They're just a little bit more reticent about it because we have guns. They're just as hostile.
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Charles
I think on the point you're raising. D. I just want to say very briefly, when you say that this important, they always say that. Well, this election is the most important one. But I, I agree with you. I think for once the blind squirrel has found a nut. I think this really is very important. And to sort of give a metaphor to what you're saying about this election, do will we have a civilization or not? I sort of look at it roughly. I haven't had a lot of time to think about it because I'm just riffing off of what you said. But I look at it as a very tough, tumultuous river before us that we could easily step in when we try to forward and get carried away and drown. And this election is simply, are we going to tip a log over the river, across the river so that we can walk across to civilization, or are we going to walk into the river, get swept away and drown? And the reason I use that as a metaphor is because we, we all know, every man in this panel knows Trump is not going to save us. It's not going to happen. He's just a Democrat from the 80s now. Does that mean we shouldn't vote for him? Absolutely not. Like, again, he is a bridge to get us where we need to go. He is not the end destination. Hopefully that makes sense to you gentlemen.
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Pete
Well, one of the things that I would say is I have an episode coming out tomorrow with some. If you listen to Judge Napolitano show, you've probably heard him. Larry Johnson, former CIA agent. Yes, he's fantastic. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, yeah. The reason I had him on is because it became very clear to me, listening to people like Marc Andreessen, that our military is 20 years behind Russia and even Iran. So I wanted him to come on and say that and, you know, say that, talk about why. And yeah, he basically says Russia has things. Russia has technology, even Iran has technology. I mean, he says that one of the missiles that was shot at Israel actually changed direction mid flight light as it was falling and like did a 90 degree turn, then did another 90 degree turn to evade countermeasures. He goes, that's not something we have. So if we're, if we're 10 to 20 years behind Iran, we're definitely behind Russia. I mean, Russia is far beyond military technology. What we have. Not having people in there who recognize this and want to do something about this is not only going to spell, you know, our demise from the inside, but I mean, it could be a double whammy of demise from the outside as well.
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De
Well, I mean, Tucker's talked about this a little bit, but we're just getting reverse opium crisis right now. What is fentanyl but a Chinese weapon? It's a weapon to destroy the United States like you are. My friend. Trey Garrison wrote a book available from Animal Hill Publishing about the opioid crisis. Pick it up if you can. This was a bullet aimed at the heart of America. And the same people who took the factories that those people who used to work at the Chinese allowed, you know, massive amounts of drugs that kill people into the United States. And it's, you know, Trump's trade policy is the only way, you know, that we're gonna be able to defend ourselves. Like if, if your antibiotics and your chips and everything else that like, you actually require to be sovereign is made somewhere else. You're not a sovereign country. Sorry, we're not.
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Pete
Yeah. The book that I'm. The book I'm reading right now Coup d' Etat by Edward Luttwak. That's one of the big takeaways in that book, is that there's only six or seven countries in the world that can make military technology, especially military aviation, that can help you win a war, that can actually cause you to win a war that's. That's powerful enough for you to defeat your enemy. And because of that, any, like, African nation that does business with one of those seven countries is basically enslaved to them. They're relying on them for parts. They're relying on them for training. They're relying on them for everything. And that's where we are right now when it comes to China with a lot of the parts for our military, for our. For the. For our military equipment and drugs. And I mean, basically, yeah, everything runs off microchips now.
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De
And so if you don't control your own microchips, you're. You're not sovereign. And so the book I mentioned is Opioids for the Masses by Trey Garrison. But so before Sweden joined NATO, when they were still neutral, they had their
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Charles
own
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De
indigenous combat aircraft. And I think they.
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Pete
I can't remember the name of the
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De
manufacturer, but they did. And many years ago, like 10 or 15, when I was first starting to learn about this stuff, I looked it up. The Nordic countries by themselves, so Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Finland and Norway had more combat aircraft than all of sub Saharan Africa, bar South Africa. And, like, put together, they had like 25 million people total.
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Charles
Yeah.
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Stormy
Like
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De
five little countries in North Atlantic had, you know, a tenth the population of like two or three. Right. Nigeria has like 100 million people almost, and Egypt has, like 100 million people.
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Charles
And
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De
by themselves, like, these. These five little Nordic countries had more combat aircraft than all of Africa put together.
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Charles
Referring to the drug point that you raised earlier, D about the fentanyl crisis. And the Chinese. I think it's excellent. That it is. It is just the opium 2.0, but I think it's interesting that the Chinese send this in and the elites use the drugs to kill the folks that would do the jobs that we're now getting immigrants to come in and do. I mean, I think that's sort of the sick and vicious cycle. It's. They used to say, when I was growing up, oh, immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do. Well, is it that or that you're murdering, by degrees, literally the populations that will do these jobs? Not only are we losing the population will do these jobs due to the cratering birth rate but you're outright killing the other percentage that would thereby fostering this, this invasion. Because I just wanted to mention that
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Jose
to your point, I'd like to raise another point that I think is sorely lacking in any discussions regards to China. I think it cannot be appreciated the role, I believe that Chinese espionage in the Anglosphere countries with large degrees of legal Chinese migration from Canada, Australia to the US how these legal migrants have basically formed the fifth column, embedding themselves in universities and I dare to say even military institutions where they're probably facilitating massive forms of corporate and military transfers back to the Chinese mainland. I think that has played a significant role in not only bridging the gap between the US and term and China in terms of military power, but potentially giving it China advantages. And the fact that you have all these China hawks not talking about like saying let's have a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0, like ban all freaking Chinese nationals from even setting foot on these territories and like seizing their assets and all that stuff, they just revert to the typical neocon like regime change stuff. Oh, we're, we're not gonna, we're not fighting the Chinese people, we're fighting the Chinese government. And this type of like low IQ form of politicking is, it's just like a symptom of really of this rot that we're facing the civilizational rotation where we aren't defining like what our civilization is and if you like, and we have to start being a lot more exclusionary from trade to the immigration restriction and not cuck ourselves by falling for politically correct tropes or embracing inadequate ideologies from civic nationalism to neoconservatism.
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De
Yeah, well I think that you're completely correct there. But let's not forget it's also the Indian government. Like liberalism is moral syphilis, as Jonathan Bowden used to say. And it makes you crazy and makes your virility fall off, as it were. So we have this idea that, you know, Sikh truck drivers who just run over kids in Canada, like they're just as, just as capable of driving truck is as anybody. It's like, no, no, this is not true. Every time someone gets busted for espionage like the US Navy, it's like, lieutenant, you know, Harry Lee busted for, you know, like, of course he's only second generation Chinese. He has cousins in China right now.
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Pete
I was going to say that I was talking to somebody the other day who is in the know and they said that basically everyone who ever gets arrested for espionage and sending secrets to China is either a Chinese national who's here visiting or somebody who is from a Chinese family who may be second and even third generation. Is it. It's not white people. It's Chinese. Right.
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De
Well, and look at. Look at, you know, look at what's the most famous case of espionage ever? It's the Rosenbergs.
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Charles
Yeah.
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De
You know, Stalin wouldn't have had nukes without, you know, a certain tribe. Right. Like, this is not a new problem. We just need to. We as white people just need to be honest enough.
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Stormy
Right.
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De
We need to shed liberalism as such and just be honest enough. Like, no. No one else is going to. And I think it was Joe Sober who. You know, there's that long quote from Joe Sobering that, like, we don't understand how resentful everyone else is because we're just. They live in our world and they know it and they resent us for it. I could find it, you know, but basically. Right. You know, the Chinese for the last 500 years have lived in a world defined by bearded dudes from the North Sea, and they're the oldest civilization on earth, and it rankles them, you know, do you think. Do you really think Xi Jinping likes having to put on a suit and tie to conduct business?
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Charles
Excellent.
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De
Why isn't he wearing a Mandarin costume? Why isn't that the mode of formal dress? It's because we dominate them so much that they have to wear our clothes and speak our language and use our technology. And of course it makes people mad. Of course they resent it.
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Charles
Yeah, that's excellent point. I mean, a lot of this to kind of dovetail your Jose's point with you. D. You've been saying for years, and I. Well, we both have, but you. You have vociferously been saying a lot of the problems we have, you just
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Pete
have to have the.
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Charles
The fortitude to just deal with them. We know what the solutions are. We know what they are. And the solution is, as Jose said, you have to start excluding huge swaths of the population. You have to.
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Pete
That's it.
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Charles
It doesn't get better if you don't. And that's a lot of this. The issues that we're having is just having the fortitude to make those decisions, to make those claims. But again, that also goes back to your point about the 19th Amendment, which is a. Which is a whole other discussion. But I know for a fact regarding specifically the Chinese, I've said on. I'm fairly certain I've said on this program multiple times all the F1 visas like a tremendous, huge, huge percentage of them are all just spies. They're just here to take our intellectual property, both military and civilian.
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Pete
They're just here to take that.
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Charles
That's all. That's why when Trump said he wanted to give citizenship to everybody that goes to school, school here, I could have puked blood. I was like, that's just absolutely insane. That's. That's absolutely abs. 100% batshit crazy. Like, that's one of the worst ideas I have ever heard in my life. It's. It's just. I couldn't believe it. It knocked me over how bad it was. Because you're exactly right, Jose. That's what the vast majority of this is. If they're here, 80 to 90% of it is just. Is just espionage, either corporate or military.
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Pete
But it's.
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Charles
That's what it is. That's. It's a simple fact.
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De
Well, just their presence is that there's. There are ordinary 105 to 110 IQ white people who can do those jobs that were destroyed by the evil education system brought to you, but brought to us by the tribe and given weed and opioids and Netflix to make them retarded so that they're not capable of actually living up to their intellectual potential and doing those sorts of jobs. And then when those people have been destroyed, lo and behold, like, oh, well, we need someone to do this job that requires a work ethic and 108 IQ, so we have to bring in a Chinese person. Like, no, you could have just found a white dude from freaking Kansas, but you got him addicted to weed when he was 12, so now he's a retard.
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Jose
I want to expand upon a point de raised about like, the Rosenbergs, because this just goes to show the, like, level of decay we have in leadership because back in the Cold War, at least when you had like an 8 white European political establishment, they at least had the common sense to erect certain immigration reform forms that.
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De
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Jose
Casino excluded at least like communists, which were overwhelmingly represented by the tribe. But nowadays though, you can't even do that because of the fact that you have just a totally alien ruling class that is just going to resort to saying oh we just need to like educate and convince these people about our values or whatever. And when it the the real simple answer is like hell no. Like this is all, this is our land from our European ancestors. If you're not part of this
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Charles
overall
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Jose
stalk, like get the out like it's simple as you're not like invited but we can't have these type of conversations. And I would also add another point that regards like something a Pete said. Immigration, whether it's illegal or legal has multi generational effects. It's not just about like the immediate boost to like the GDP or whatever. You could have legit colonies of people that in like 30 to 40 years that could be tapped into by an external actor. I think in the Chinese case they have like this like united front work department or something like that. This bureaucracy that is dedicated to tapping into the Chinese diaspora abroad from the US even down to Panama. Countries like Panama which have close like 3 to 5% of the population there is Chinese and they do that for like outreach to embed themselves and project influence. And you even see this too in Europe with the so called long arm of Ankara, how the Turkish government does the same type of outreach and influence projection there. And, and these are migrant communities have been there for generations. So yeah, like this is the problem why you can't cuck on the legal immigration issue either.
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De
Well like Italy got hit so hard by coronavirus because there's tens, hundreds of thousands of Chinese working in Italian factories in North Italy.
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Pete
Right.
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De
Because you know it's made in Italy by Chinese people.
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Stormy
Right.
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De
So all the luxury stuff.
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Pete
Well just the generational thing. I mean look at uk, some of these rape gangs. These aren't like new, they're second and third generation.
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De
Yes. 40 years.
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Pete
Yeah. What do you expect when you import. You're not importing people, you're importing a culture.
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Charles
Exactly.
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Pete
And when you protect that culture and you say this culture needs to be able to live their culture out while you're destroying the native culture by bringing, by bringing in people from another culture and saying this is the dominant. Basically just saying this is the dominant culture now. This is the culture that if it's not going to be dominant, this is the only one that's allowed to be respected. And now you basically have people who are living in their ancestors land and it's. And they, it is, I would probably say that to live in like to live in one of those towns. What's one of those towns that were. Is fire Southern. What was one Sutherland or I can't remember the name of it. I think that in Spain. Yeah, in Spain, under the Reconquista, the average Spanish person lived better under more, under more rule there than the average English person is living in Great Britain right now.
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Charles
Excellent.
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De
Absolutely. If you take out the city of London, England. England's a third world country.
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Jose
Oh, yes.
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De
Yes. If you, if you remove city of London, which you've talked about, Pete, from, From their figures. England is poorer than Mississippi.
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Charles
Holy.
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Jose
Yeah. It's poorer than some second world countries. Yeah. Like Poland and whatnot. Like, yeah, I'm. I'm about to read that Vassal State book about how like, England has been just completely, like, hollowed out by the Judeo American empire. And yeah, I really do think that people need to start thinking like, the multi generational facets of mass migration in these debates. Because let's be brutally honest here. Like, let's look at the black population in the U.S. like, nobody is going to say a straight face after like 400 years of like, residing here that they've like, assimilated to U.S. culture. And like, this applies to, to a lot of alien, alien cultures here that are coming. So we have to start being like, brutally honest and have these uncomfortable conversations because we should not be sugarcoating this stuff any longer.
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Charles
No, you're 100% right. And that's. There's a few things I've been kind of taking notes during this conversation just to stay on track. And I've come. A few things you said earlier, Jose, that I would like to address and I'd like to dovetail them with Pete if I can. If I can keep my thoughts coherent here on my end. First, I'd like to say when you, when you said we, the European stock that we have, we needed to keep, and we needed to keep it in power. Well, remember, it's written specifically for ourselves and our posterity. I mean, this, this, this was my, this was my family's nation. This was Dee's nation. This was like, it was peace. It was our. It was our nation. This, this was our people. And I also want to say, having worked in immigration and this is something I'm touching on that you said also, Jose. Like, I could tell you, like, not only is that necessary, I can give you some. The biggest reason it is. And this dovetails with Pete's as well. Like, assimilation is a myth. That doesn't happen. You. I. It really doesn't. You. You either conquer or you are conquered. You know, you don't really assimilate. You don't just show up and say, hey, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do what everybody else does. That. That's not really a thing unless you're. Unless you're in small doses in small areas, and it's definitely not going to happen. If you're in a place that, quote, unquote, celebrates all cultures equally, how is that going to work? What's there to assimilate to? What. What is the motivation to assimilate? Like when. When my family.
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De
Mindless consumerism.
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Charles
Right, Exactly. When my family came on my father's side from Portugal and Italy, respectively, like, there were nothing. There was nothing written in Portuguese. There's nothing written in Italian. It was English because that was the culture here. If you want to live here, then you have to be conquered. You have. You have to assimilate. But really, we're going to conquer you. If you come here, we're going to conquer you. You know, my family's like, hey, that's fine. I chose to live here. So I lose the war. They basically forfeit a cultural battle. Is what I'm trying to say in a succinct language that they have to come here, you have to forfeit a cultural battle. But instead, what have we done here? The best population has forfeited the cultural battle, which is insane, because once you forfeit the cultural battle, you forfeit the geography. It's just that easy. And in regards to your. Your point, Jose, about. About coming to America and how about communism and things like that? It's like, I worked in immigration up till the year 2005. Okay, I understand. It's getting further and further away every day. So that's 19 years ago now, but that's still within every man's ears. Lifetime, like this is. It's not some ancient history that you wheeled me out of a hospice to talk about 90 years ago that I can vaguely remember. Like, this is literally 19 years ago. And I'm telling you for a fact, I used to give citizenship tests with that very question on it. Are you now or have you ever been part of the Communist Party Party? Like that was there. And technically that was an exclusionary thing that you could be excluded from citizenship for. Now, was I ever allowed to really exclude anybody for it? No. But was it still on the books? Absolutely. But again, this relates to something D. Has said for. For quite some time. And Pete and you and I. And I definitely myself, like, we. The problem isn't that we can't solve the problems. That is not the problem in America. And I know Dee will back Me up vociferously on this. The problem is we aren't allowed to solve the problems. And this goes back to your point too, Jose, that a lot of this is simply, no, you just can't come here. That'll solve 40% of our problems. No, if you're from this country, you can't come here. That's it. Like it's that easy. It isn't rocket science. It sounds difficult, but it isn't rocket science. That's it. So I just wanted to address all the points you gentlemen made. Hopefully that was coherent. What I was trying to say there for you, put them all together.
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Jose
I mean, yeah, you see the inverse because it's really a. A question of political will. You see the inverse. The present occupation class is also exclusionary towards us, towards people like us, like, because they're. They know full well that if we get any semblance of power, it's going to metastasize and something that's going to see them get overthrown and further down the line. And it really, a lot of politics boils down to the ability to use exclusionary power and other forms of state power to ensure that usurpers are kept at bay. And that's the thing. It's not a question that we don't have like the tools or whatever. It's that we are legitimately being excluded through deplat, through platforming and other mechanisms from being engaged. From being engaged in the political arena.
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De
Exactly right. And just to touch on something I brought up earlier, there was a coup. There was a coup. The President of the United States was basically like barred from running again by some intern in his office sending out a tweet and no one's talking about, you know, like right after the former president who probably won the 2020 election, you know, was. Was assass. You know, attempted assassination with. With the obvious either incompetence or assistance of the Secret Service that right after that, right, the deep state basically said, we're getting rid of Joe Biden. And to bring up. To dovetail with Jose's point here, the reason programs like this and everything else that people are doing is so important is very simple. If you know about it, you can do something about it. And the vast overwhelming infrastructure of media and information and everything, finance, it's all geared towards the Nuremberg regime against you learning about things, because then you could organize in solidarity. You know, like Thomas always says, like the whole point of the Nuremberg regime is to keep conservative white people from being able to exercise political sovereignty. That's the point of the nerve, Brooks, because the second conservative white people do anything that's, you know, mustache man and, you know, goose stepping and, you know, and you. You can see it like, Candace Owens was just talking to, not Andrew Tate, his brother Tristan Tate. And they brought up Ursula have back without mentioning her name. And one of the things that, that Tristan brought up is like, why are all these people who were born in the 70s or the 50s judging Ursula Haverbeck for stuff that she says she saw with her own eyes? Why? You know, the media will say to you, yeah, I know that you just got robbed by a black guy,
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Pete
but
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De
it's not the black people that's the problem. It's like, I just got beaten up and robbed by a black guy. I just watched Mexicans or Hispanics or mestizos or whatever cross the border carrying pounds of drugs. Why are you telling me what I'm seeing with my own eyes is a lie, and if I talk about it, I'm a bigot? Because the second people can actually say, oh, yeah, actually, it is, you know, this problem.
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Jose
It is.
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De
It is black Americans who commit huge amounts of crime and are, you know, a friend of mine, privately in conversation. Do you know why every baby in America has to have, like, goop put on their eyes? Tucker Carlson just had a brother, sister, couple talk about the health industry in the United States. But every baby in America that's born gets, like, antibiotic ointment put on their eyes. Do you know why that is? Because 46% of black women have an STD. And so every baby in America gets treated for this disease that most people don't have. But because there's one population that just can't not be filthy and disgusting and have diseases, liberalism says we have to treat everybody the same, and we have to treat everyone like they're, you know, potentially have STDs. Like, well, what about all the boring married people who just don't fool around on their spouse and just have kids together? Oh, no, we need to treat them like good rats. What. Why is. Why is this even happening?
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Charles
And the. The irony is, like, as you say, it's the worst part of it is it isn't that we're treating the. The married couple like the hood rat. It's that we're treating the hood rat like the married couple. That's the worst part. Like, we're giving the hood rat the vote. We're giving them a say in society. We're giving them access to firearms because, you know, Second Amendment. Do you follow My point. D. Do you see where I'm going with that? Like that's. That's what the worst part of it is to me. It isn't. It isn't necessary. Yes, you're right. It's. It's crazy and it's goofy that we do what you're saying, but what I'm saying, it's worse that it goes the other direction.
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Pete
What's that?
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De
Right? Yeah, if we like. Yeah, the second amendment shouldn't apply to black people. Like just. Just like the founders intended. Sorry. Like you don't get guns because you guys don't. Like, you can like, okay, Tom Sewell and Walter Williams and Candace Owens and you know, Allen Keys. Okay. Those like six black people can have guns.
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Stormy
Everyone else.
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De
No sorry either.
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Jose
Alan Keys. I haven't heard that name in a while.
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Charles
That's. But that's a well regulated militia that they're always saying we should have and. Because that's what the second amendment says. Like okay, let's well regulate the militia then. Only these people that show up for. For these things and get guns. Okay, let's do that. And then watch how quickly they don't want us to play by that rule. Just watch how fast. That's it. And to go back to kind of dovetail your point deep.
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De
Well, they do that with the franchise.
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Charles
Well, to kind of join Jose's and these points together. Like, this is the real reason they don't want us to get any kind of foothold, as you said.
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Pete
Jose.
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Charles
Why they. Why they really want to prevent us from any kind of foothold. And also why Thomas Triple seven says the of point or purpose of the Nuremberg regime. I. I think it's simply with. To go back to what you said. D. It's like because they know everyone will be speaking English the instant they do.
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De
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Charles
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Pete
Well, I wanted to. I thought Charles Haywood had a pretty good tweet today about immigration. Let's go back to that. He said the migrants who ultimately overwhelmed. Overwhelmed Rome were nothing like the migrants overwhelming us. In some ways, most were superior to the Romans. The migrants the Westing ruling class invites to invade us today are almost all the civilizational slop that is the default state of the world for all of history, where even successful civilizations accomplish very little. If not for the west, that is what succeeded and built upon the Romans. The entire globe would today live in the world of the 15th century or more likely the 7th century and not the Western version of either. What follows if Europe and America drown is most likely not some new synthesis that takes us to the stars. But nothing worthwhile, nothing that advances mankind in any way, perhaps for thousands of years or forever, given the exhaustion of easily extractable energy. This is the core reason all migrants must be expelled from America and our society remade, since just getting rid of them won't fix all the problems of our civilizational decay.
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De
Charles is one of the wisest men in the world. I can't, I can't. I can't disagree with anything there and right. This is obvious. I mean, Charles is. Mr. Heywood, rather is a very articulate man and he, he's both insightful and successful. So I, you know, I can't put it better than he can. But to just elaborate on that for a second, why did we give all of these people access to stuff that they're. They didn't build themselves? Like no one in Africa built a wheel. Sub Saharan Africa built a wheel until white people showed up. They didn't have writing. Do you know what's going to happen? Like, I think I've talked about this in the past. There's three possibilities. We win. I think that's probably the remotest chance. And we stop subsidizing them and they die by the hundreds of millions because they're not receiving Western subsidies anymore. We lose, they all end up here. Everywhere ends up being Africa and everyone dies because they're starving. Or the Chinese win and the Chinese stop subsidizing them and millions of people die. There's no, there's no future where, you know, that what Steve Saylor calls the most important graph in the world, where there's like 100 billion Africans in, you know, 2200. It's just not going to happen. We're going to run out of petroleum. We're going to run out of something. Some key component of that chain that enables that sort of thing to happen is going to run out. And once that, you know, once that little support is kicked out, the whole thing is going to fall apart like a Jenga tower. So if you're just honest about these things, it's like a feedback loop where you keep putting more energy in the system to make it more and more unstable. It's like watching it. You ever seen, like, a truck jackknife going down the highway?
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Pete
Right?
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De
And the, the amplitude of the, of the jackknife just gets worse and worse and worse and worse until the whole thing falls apart. We're just adding more energy to the swing instead of trying to correct it and trying to, you know, make those, make it stop jackknifing and stop swinging back and forth, forth and back and forth, wider and wider and wider. Kill, you know, a bunch of people are dead and the whole highway is destroyed. We're going to just keep adding. Making things worse. If we don't do what Charles just said, if we don't stop making things worse via liberalism and mass migration and perversion and everything else, then we're just making things worse.
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Stormy
We're.
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De
We're actively adding bads, as Hans Hermanhopper would say. We're producing bads as opposed to goods.
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Charles
Oh, I, I was just saying that. And to speak to, to the, The. The piece you just read. I mean, think about that awful poem that we bolted to the side of the Statue of Liberty. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free. You're tired, you're poor, you're h. Huddled masses yearning to be free. What does that describe? That describes cattle, you know, tired, poor, hungry, huddled mass. That, that describes cattle. That doesn't describe people that you want here. That describes, at best a domesticated animal, at worst just a, a herd of buffalo. Like, that's not that. That. That's not what you really want on
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De
your want to be free.
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Charles
That's a good point. Do they. I don't, I don't think a lot of the ones they do get now, do. I think maybe eons ago, when you had people from Europe, and I would, and I would argue that, like, the reason the. I saw somebody writing on Twitter a while ago, it's like, oh, well, what's the difference between the people coming now than all like. Like the Italians and the Irish and. And all that? Like, well, they, they. You mean their countries weren't, you know, didn't suck back then, then or whatever? It's like, well, first off, we're talking about tremendously different. Tremendously different populations biologically and culturally. But second off, you're talking about places like. Like Spain and Portugal and Italy where. Where a lot of these families have been in power for literal hundreds of years, like, literal centuries. And it's like, well, they don't have a lot of upward mobility. That was. That's the problem with a lot of those places at the time. It wasn't that they were necessarily dysfunctional shitholes. It's that there was no upward mobility. Where were you going to go? The Dometicis have been in power since. Since the bubonic plague was raging. They still have power. And it's just like, yeah, why do you think a lot of these people came to America? Wasn't because their countries were dysfunctional. It was because, well, there's really nowhere to go up because everybody's already filled it and has filled it for hundreds of years. Go ahead, D. I just wanted to make that point.
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De
Yeah, and before you say that, just a real quick point. Tomas de Victoria and Giovanni de Palestrina. Victoria was Spanish and Palestrina was Italian. They're two Renaissance composers, some of the most beautiful music you'll ever hear in your life. So the Italians, even when they were poor, you know, and ruled by this oppressive oligarchy, you know, whatever you want to say, right. They produce greatness at a level that, like, never. You could. You could find a little tiny town in the middle of Italy and look at, like, people from such and such, and it'll be, you know, more contributions to world culture at some little tiny town in Italy than, you know, some whole countries have made. And to pretend that, you know, that these are on the same level is, again, one of those just moral syphilis lies that we're just expected to swallow because it's convenient for our ruling elite. Like, no, that's not true at all. Not true at all.
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Pete
Going forward, let's talk about this, because we do have an election this year. Thomas has been questioning whether it's even ever, if it's ever going to happen. I look at this election and I see, okay, if it does happen, I mean, I don't even. I don't know how one happens in 2028. I mean, depending on who wins. I mean, I just, that could take. This could take a whole episode. This could take a series of episodes of my thoughts on this.
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Pete
I was talking with somebody this morning. I don't have permission to say who. Everyone here knows who. They would know who they are. And I told them, I said, this is just if I know that it's the trope. This is the most important election of our lifetime. But guess what? I've never, ever said that in my life. Ever. Never. Because I've always been very. I don't know what's going to change. Seems like both parties are the same side, but it seems like at this time, if Kamala Harris, if the regime continues without being challenged, that we're headed for destruction on many levels, not only financial, societal. And if Trump wins, well, hopefully the people that are surrounding him, and I know there's a lot of people surrounding him that I would rather not be surrounding him, but I don't get to make those decisions. I just get to decide, look and say which one is better. And I see one side as an existential threat to our existence, and I see the other side as, hey, maybe we have a shot. So, I mean, what is everybody thinking about this year? I mean, is Trump surrounded by Zionists? Absolutely. Okay. At this point, what's the other option? I mean, it's like Thomas says, we're under occupation until the west breaks the power that they're being occupied from. There are things that we're just, just going to have to deal with, and there are things that are just going to be a given. So do we have a shot if Trump wins and if Kamala wins, I mean, what happens?
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Charles
Well, I mean, I, a lot of what you're saying here, Pete, I'd mentioned
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De
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Charles
Yeah, but a lot of what you're saying, Pete, is what I had said earlier in the press program. I said, I, I, I'm with you 100%, Pete. Yes, I know it's the trope. This is the most important election ever. But as I said earlier, I think I use these exact words. This is the one time a blind squirrel found a nut. It, it, this is that one. And as you say, again, I mentioned earlier in the program, I use that log being dropped over the, the tumultuous river metaphor. Like, I, I don't think he's going to save, but I do think, as you say, I'll use Your words. I do think if. If we can get him in, then at least we have a shot. There. There is at least a path open to us at that point. That would be the phrase I would use. At least at that point, there is a path open to us. But, yeah, and as. Again, as you say, and as I mentioned earlier in a much short. A shorthand version of what you're saying, I. At the beginning, do I like who surrounds him? No. No, I don't. Do I like a lot of the people that he seek, whom he seeks counsel from? No. No, I do not. But again, like, I. He's the only log I have to drop over that river. That's it. He. He's the only potential bridge I have to drop over that river. So I have to take it. I just have that. That's it. That's what I have. That's what I have to work with. And as you say, if he doesn't get it, I mean, it's. It's done at that point. What. What I mean, what do I mean by done? I mean, that's. As you say, Pete, I'll use your words, that. That could take an entire episode and then some. I mean, I. I wouldn't. Honestly, Pete, we would have to sit down together and try and try and do an outline because I think we would all just be stumbling over ourselves trying to even think we wouldn't know where to begin. It would be like the Keystone Cops all trying to get through the Three Stooges, trying to get through the same door at once. And I don't even mean us. I mean, the ideas, the idea. We just wouldn't even know where to begin. Well, what's going to fail? Society, well, that's already on its way out. The drug problem gets worse. The smuggling gets worse. The economy gets worse. Like, where would we even begin? I honestly wouldn't even know where to start. And I'm not. I hate to sound catastrophizing, like, oh, no, Red team loses, blue team is the end of the world. But again, the blind squirrel found a nut. Like, the blue team has been winning for a while now, and nothing has gotten better. Objectively, nothing has gotten better. Well, at least for honest people. I think criminals could say things have. Things have gotten a lot better. They're not getting prosecuted. But for honest people. I don't think there's anything, by any metric, am I.
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Pete
Am I wrong that this is an existential crisis? If, if the regime in charge stays with the course, with this woman who is just. Is Going to be even more of a puppet than even, you know, Weekend at Bernie's Biden has been.
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De
Never forget, Kamala Harris is literally married to a Jew. I mean, what I. I don't like Donald Trump. I'm probably not going to. Brian, leave. It doesn't matter. But for all those people who are like, oh, terrorists will be better because. But Harris is a resentful non white person who hates you and will use every power of the federal government that she has and some she'll invent to hunt us down and put us in jail. 100%. I'm not joking about the podcast from cell block E being pretty base because that's the choices. What's happening in England right now will absolutely happen to America under of a Harris administration. She's a dumb prostitute if I know. And I'm. I'm a provincial hick who's never really left my provincial hick town if I know she's a prostitute. The Israelis know and have photos. MI6 knows and has photos. The Mossad knows. The Chinese know. The Russians know. You think that. You think the FSB doesn't have compromising pictures of Kamala Harris? Pull the other one. It sings. It sings Dixie.
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Charles
D to your point.
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De
Come on.
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Charles
D to your point. I would. I would argue that like. Like they don't even need compromising pictures. I'm just going to use your exact words. She's a prostitute. It doesn't. She doesn't care what pictures there are. They're not even necessary. Just keep putting money in her pockets. She'll.
- [278:28]
De
She.
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Charles
I mean, I hate. Forgive me for being crass, but she's already literally sucked dick to get power. Like, you know that, Dee, you've. You've talked about this on this very program before. She's literally sucked dick to get power. Like, what?
- [278:44]
Jose
What?
- [278:44]
Charles
I mean, there's nothing necessary to compromise her. The check will be enough. There is no morality there. There are no ethics there. There are no higher principles there. There's nothing. You don't need to blackmail her. I mean, you're. You're probably right. Let me be abundantly clear, Dee, you're probably right that there probably are those photos, but I'm saying I don't. I don't think they're even remotely necessary. It's wheels on a tomato. You don't. They're not even necessary. She literally sucked dick for power. What? What. What more do you need? Like. That's it. That's it.
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Pete
Jose, you got anything?
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Tyler Redick
Yes.
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Jose
I think that this election will probably be One of the last elections where you will see any like the formal trappings of liberalism. Because I think that from here on out you're going to see, see all these members of the ruling class just go fully mask off with blatant forms of tyranny against people on the right. I just think that the present order is incredibly like unsustainable. They can't use this, the tools of yesteryear to quell the scent. They're just gonna have to start using like really ham fisted forms of hard power. And I would, I would also add like on that point you guys raised from Brandon Hayward, that I just think that we're gonna see this just total degradation of the US turning into this weird Tower of Babel, like idiot idiocratic state, that it's just not going to be able to keep the lights on, to be honest. And I'm not the most enthusiastic Trump guy like I was in 2016, but it at least gives us some breathing room like tactically for voting for him in 2024. But at this point though, I've become
- [281:06]
Charles
more
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Jose
focused on like what for life, like in like post America, if you will, how we organize there. That's going to be one of like the bigger debates in my opinion, because I'm more thinking in like in a recon keystamo that we're gonna be engaged in a very like protracted struggle in the long term and it will consist of us having to retake territory at like the local level and build from there. But I, I'm not really that fixated on like whether people vote for Trump or not, like some others or like some of the purity spiraling or whatever because I'm just focused on like a lot of other things like exposing interracial crime prime and really organize jewelry and also trying to organize at the local level. But I do agree that for those that are interested in preserving some semblance of like civilization in the west, like makes sense, especially if you're like living like in a competitive state like in the Midwest, like if you, if you're in Pennsylvania or whatever, that like Trump is like your last like lifeline, to be honest, and your vote actually will count there, whereas in other states it might not be the case.
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Pete
Yeah, no, I get that too. I, what I've been saying is that whichever side wins, you're going to want to concentrate locally and you know, fortify some kind of locality. Because if the regime side wins, that's obvious, if the other side wins and they are able to actually do anything the plans that I've heard would be to drastically cut government. And if they were to do that, I mean, I know that I'm in fantasy land here right now. That would be. You'd be rolling back to local government as well. So the idea that we, that we don't concentrate on some kind of reconquista from our local area at this point, I think no matter who wins. No matter who wins. And to just bring up what something we were saying earlier, something I said on my sub stack this week, is we've been brainwashed and our minds are really diseased.
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Charles
And
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Pete
I said on my substack that we could get rid of whatever your trouble group is. If you have multiple trouble groups, you could deport all of them and be back to heritage America. And you're still going to have to deal with the fact that, that you've had a lifetime of this brainwashing, that you're, that it may take a couple generations to rid yourself of. Because it, I mean, from sports, playing sports, growing up and everything, it was like 90% of the game is between your ears. It's all between your ears and between most people's ears. If you're not, if someone's not willing to step up and tell people what to do, because at this point, 95% even more need to just be told what to do, then you're. We're still. You could get rid of all these people and you still haven't dealt with the root, the root problem that. Yeah, here's something I said this week. I said that propaganda from the right. I was listening to Kryptos on Jay Burden's podcast and he was talking about how propaganda from the right doesn't work. And I was. And I'm like, okay, let me think about that. And I thought about it. When the right uses propaganda, sometimes they can get the right to agree with them and they may get a couple leftists. When the left uses propaganda, it affects everyone. You know that whole thing about conservatism being progressivism, driving the speed limit 10 years down. The left throws propaganda out there and everyone eats it up.
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De
I'm going to quote something that you sent to the group, Pete. We make a great mistake in supposing that all people are capable of self government. John C. Calhoun, America's one genuine political thinker.
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Pete
Show me the only political thinker.
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De
Show me a population other than white men who have the capacity for self government. We've been running a continuous experiment in this country for 100 years about women voting and for 60 about non whites voting. Show me where it's worked. You can't, you can't. They're not capable of self government. Getting mad at women who not being capable of self government is like getting mad at the dog when it pees on the carpet. That's just what they do. They're not capable of it. This idea that everyone is equally capable of self government is just not true.
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Tyler Redick
Right?
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De
And in our whole project, the whole. I was thinking about this as we're approaching recording, right? The whole project of, of everything we do here. And I recommend everyone give a listen to exit group how to Fight the West. They did a recent show, right? And he talks about how politics actually works in that and how all these disparate actors beat the United States because right wingers in America, mostly white people, have all this bad programming that Pete mentioned. They don't understand how things actually work. And my whole project for the coming on 15 years I've been doing this is just to stop lying to people about a couple things in particular. But if you just aren't honest about the nature of race, the jq, men and women, whatever, it's like trying to do physics without Newton's laws of motion. You're just gonna be wrong. And if people don't understand that, if they don't, if, if the average right winger consists consistently. Well, what about what Martin Luther King said? No, no one cares, man. You know, the great Gregory Hood said this and I think he's 100 correct. Like black people want two things when it comes to politics. They want access to the public fist and they want crime to be legal, which is both just saying they want your stuff. That's the only thing black people want politically. That's it. Sometimes they want it via legal means, sometimes they want it by illegal means, but they just want your stuff. They have no political program. They have no goals. They have no like wants. They just want your stuff.
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Charles
Well, I would, I would argue. How is that any different?
- [288:29]
De
They want access to your women, I would argue.
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Charles
How's that any different? Women.
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De
Women at least are. Yeah, women are really supposed to give you something in return and that's the
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Charles
right not to cut you off. I'm sorry, but I just wanted to make the point that I would argue that that's the same thing, that women basically want the same things. Access to your stuff. That's it. I would argue they only have one. They only have one desire politically. Access to your stuff. And I, and I would say to you, to your point, Pete, I Think there's a black pill in what you're saying? Because, because as you say, it's a tremendously, it's a tremendously large issue that we're facing. You have to get, have to go through generations of people to get, get the mindset back where it needs to be. But I would also say that it's, for me personally, I look at that as more of a white pill. Like, that's really not. Yes, there's a lot of people that you need to do that with. But we've already learned. Covid. I know we've talked about this. You have personally talked about this. This, Pete, that, that Covid showed you just how much people just go in lockstep and do what they're told and how both of us were shocked. All people we knew throughout our lives just fell right into whatever people told them to do. So to me, I look at it as a white pill. It's like really our biggest problem after we get rid of a lot of these populations, exile them, is, is we have to change mindset. Okay, great. Like, that's not that big a deal. I, I watched people demand a vaccine card to go to McDonald's, just to go to McDonald's because somebody told them to. Okay, so we'll just tell them to do what we want them to do. So I, maybe I'm being a bit flippant there, but I do think, I do look at it as a white pill, largely. Like, that's not really, to me, that's not really a big deal. And I do have a question for you, and it's a very sincere question that, because I wasn't there, I don't, I didn't hear it in the context. What did the individual mean when he said right wing propaganda doesn't work? What was he referring to specifically as right wing propaganda? I have a sincere question.
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Pete
Well, no, when you're, when you're crafting propaganda, when you're, when you're putting a narrative out there, he's basically saying how governments just go leftward. So basically the only kind of propaganda that really works on the masses as government goes leftward is left wing propaganda. Right wing propaganda is just looked upon as well that doesn't have anything. That's not what our zeitgeist is. That's not what's. This is just foreign to me. So if, you know, so we do have some good right wing propagandists out there, but how many of them are bringing people over, over from the left? Okay, no, they're mostly Bringing people over from the right. But the left wing propaganda that goes out there, regime propaganda, that hits all of us, we all still, I mean, we're sitting here and there, there are still things inside ourselves, there are still impulses inside ourselves that we fight because we've been so propagandized. It's like, yeah, well, that should be. And then we're going to change our mind on it sometime down the line and be like, shit, I can't believe I'm a fucking moron forever believing that. And usually stuff like that is stuff that was just. Everything is propaganda. I mean, everything that comes, if it has, if it's in the public, it's propaganda. And we have to remember that everything we see is propaganda and we believe it. You know, we, I'm not saying that, you know, the Trump assassination was faked, but I mean, what were we sold? We were sold a certain story. Most people are going to believe that story no matter what. And if they do say, well, there's something fishy about it, they're not going to dive real deep into what might be fishy about it or what the motives behind it are. And I mean, that's mostly coming from the regime. It's mostly coming from, you know, the first reports that came out that was, oh, Trump tripped and nicked his ear, stuff like that. Right wing propaganda really doesn't work. I mean, when you go back and you look at like propaganda from the 1930s in that country, we're not supposed to talk about. It wasn't hard right wing propaganda. It was kind of propaganda of the, this group over here kind of stuff. And that's normally left wing propaganda. This group over here is doing something to you and you need, and I mean, there's a very. The reason I think it was very successful was because it wasn't like standing up with this classic right wing kind of message of, you know, hierarchy, this and that. No, these people are trying to take advantage of us. This group over here is trying to take advantage of us. These people are taking advantage of us. And what is that? A lot of people will say that just sounds like leftism. You're. Those people are just engaging in capitalism. So why are you. If they're just engaging in capitalism, what are you, a socialist? Maybe, of a sort. That's what I'm talking. That's what I'm trying to. That's what I'm trying to explain.
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Charles
Understood. Thank you. I was just curious as to, as to what that meant.
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De
That makes sense. And to the extent that we have anything that works.
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Jose
Hey guys.
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De
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Charles
Right? Thank you, D. That's. Those are.
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Pete
Yeah. The right ones to make an argument. The right ones to show you the right wants to show you how smart the they are. That's what they want to do. They're like, oh, that's what Con Inc. Is. Right. Oh, if we just get. How can. Look at the economic policy we have here. It's laid out perfectly.
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De
Read this.
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Pete
How can anybody deny this? Yeah, how can anybody deny it? But no, when you do it, when you read this.
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Charles
50. Sorry. Read this page. White paper was great. Sorry, I just. I just love that. Like, yeah, that's gonna work, bro. I. And I think I just want to jump in on something you're saying, like,
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Jose
just give every immigrant that.
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Charles
Yeah, right. Give them the pamphlet on not to rape. That'll help. But yeah, like. Like, I think you raise a good point because where. Where our strengths lie. And this is what I wanted to raise. This is why before I wanted to say anything I wanted. Thank you, Pete, for that. Because I wanted to. That's why before I said anything, I wanted to make sure of.
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Pete
Of what.
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Charles
What point was being made so that I didn't mistake. Mistake anybody. And that was the propaganda issue. And I think D, you stepped on. You. You touched on exactly what I wanted to say, which is I think the right wing strengths are aesthetics. Like, I mean, you're. They're still talking about Nazi imagery almost. Almost 100 years later. 80s, 80 some years later, they're still talking about. Hell, they're still talking about Roman aesthetics. I mean, people don't realize there was architectural stuff 2500 years later.
- [296:04]
Pete
Yes.
- [296:04]
Charles
I mean, they're still talking about Roman aesthetics. Like you can't. Like that's why when I heard the thing right wing propaganda doesn't work. I was like, hold on a second. Am I having a stroke? Like, there are still people talking about the Roman Empire and Nazi Germany and the. And the. And the Spanish, not so much the Spanish fascists, but when they brought up the Italian and the Spanish. But they still win. It's like, now I see cara del
- [296:27]
De
Sol is a banger, dude.
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Charles
Yeah, right. But I'm not arguing. But now I see the subtle differentiation we're making. But I think right wing esthetics are our biggest strength, like you say. And I think really the reason memes work is because true right wing propaganda is wordless. You don't have to convince anybody of anything. They really know it already. To me, like, right wing propaganda is fairy tale, Grimm's fairy tales. Now, maybe this is the tabletop role player in me coming out, but as you say, D, I like your line. It's one of the greatest, one of the three greatest contributions of the United States to world culture. To me, fairy tales are the best right wing propaganda ever. You know, here's what little girls should do, here's what little boys should do, here's what parents should do. Here's how you should behave. Like, to me, that's the best right wing propaganda ever. And to me, it's the most effective.
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De
Yeah, listen to your mother.
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Charles
Right? Exactly. Yeah, like, like, and step parents are very dangerous. You know what I mean?
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Tyler Redick
Be.
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Charles
Be careful who you let into your house. You know, you really want to just have your biological mom, your. Your biological dad again, like, go back and read these. I would humbly suggest people go back and read these. To me, the best right wing propaganda is all fairy tales because it's speaking to a human condition. And ironically, I would say they're more true than facts, because facts are just a series of things that are easily, you know, easily mentioned, easily put out there, and anybody could twist. But these things are nuanced. These things speak to the soul, the core of human existence, or at least Western European existence. So that's my take on that gentleman.
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De
I'll wrap up here with. I've got to get going, but I just want to put a callback to Pete's excellent series on reading the Last Crusade by Warren Carroll. There's an incident in that book that brings me to tears every time I talk about it. So I'm going to have to struggle through this. During the siege of the Alcazar, the colonel in charge, at the very beginning of the siege, the communists have his son. And they get on the phone and they tell him, colonel, we have your son. Going to kill him if you don't surrender. And the Alcazar is. The Alcazar of Toledo is the tradition. It's a military academy. It was the traditional fort that oversaw Toledo. And the colonel in charge says, may I speak to my son?
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Tyler Redick
And he.
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De
They say, sure, you put him on the phone. He says, my son, I love you. Commend your soul to God. Die like a Spaniard. Viva Cristo Rey. I think I can remember.
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Charles
But that's basically.
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De
He knows his son is going to die, and the son knows that. His father knows that he's going to die. And the son says, I will, Father, give my love to brother. And then they kill him. That's not an argument. That's just. That's just truth. That's just honor. That's just glory. That's just. Just beauty and sacrifice and everything good in the world wrapped up in one small little story. And I don't need to make arguments against people who beat up old ladies or rape little girls or stab little girls with knives or deal drugs or sexually perverse or any. I don't need to make. I don't need to make arguments with those people. I'm not interested in arguing with those people about anything any longer. I want a good, decent society for people to live in where old people are safe and where children can grow to be good people. And if you're against that, I'm against you. I'm not interested in arguing anymore. There's nothing to argue about. You know, we live in an oligarchy that is now pretty nakedly out there. The President's not in charge. They try to kill people all the time. They're doing, you know,
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Stormy
Or.
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De
I'm sorry, Pete was on Mike Ferris. Mike Ferris just had an episode like, you know, the US Government does sex trafficking. The US Government deals drugs. I'm not interested in arguing with these people about anything. I want the bad things to stop and I want the good things to happen. And there's nothing to argue with the Communists about. There's nothing to argue with blacks about. There's nothing to argue with Chinese people about. You just gotta go. This is my civilization built by white Christian people. And if you're not a white Christian person, then this isn't for you.
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Pete
Off.
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Jose
We're full. Yeah.
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Charles
Beautiful, D. Beautiful.
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Pete
If you have to get out of here. Yeah. Thank you. Anybody else have anything, you know, we can wrap up here? It's kind of hard to top that story when it comes to the kind of existential crisis we're looking at and how. Yeah, the hard decisions are going to have to be made. And, you know, the fight going ahead is. Is not one that's going to be easy. And we really don't know what's left for us in the future. So if you gentlemen want to. Want to finish with anything, go Right ahead.
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Charles
I only want to say one thing to Dee's point, and that's it. I think he said everything beautifully, and there's not much more I can add to it, but I just say. I'll just say this. Arguments and debates are for the men on this panel and the listeners to this program to have amongst ourselves. Everybody else gets war and nothing less. Thank you for having me, Pete.
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Pete
Of course, Charles. Joseph.
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Jose
I wanted to go back to a point that Charles raised, and I think that it's emblematic of, like, the theme of this show that the assimilate versus conquer dichotomy, because I. I think that whenever we. When somebody uses the word assimilate, that is the telltale sign that this person has had their mind zonked by liberalism. Ultimately, conquer represents, in my opinion, a mindset of real politic, of politics, of like, of a primordial style. Politics that we have to, like, start embracing. Because when we start thinking in a liberal with liberal priors, we just end up becoming politically retarded, for lack of a better word, because of the simple fact that we just imbibing this, the noxious substance of liberalism will just consign us to the dustbin of political irrelevance and eventual, like, vanquishment, honestly. And that's why I believe that it's very important that we have to go back to our primordial roots and start seeing politics as it is and not get ourselves in entranced by the false God of liberalism.
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Pete
But, yeah, yeah, we need to start seeing the world as it is and work on changing what is. And just looking at the world and going, well, it ought to be like this without having a. A genuine way to get there. You're just. It's just theory cell masturbation. It's just theory cell masturbation at this point. So anyway, I'm gonna. I'm gonna end it. I thank both of you gentlemen for joining me. Thank. Thank D for. For showing up and. Yeah, until the next time, just want to thank everybody for listening. Take care, guys.
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Stormy
See you.
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Charles
God bless you have had this conversation many, many times.
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Pete
So just. Just. Everyone knows we're recording because, you know, why not?
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Charles
Yeah.
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De
Hey, sure. Oh, yeah.
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Jose
No.
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De
Well, like, nothing ever happens, right, bros?
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Stormy
Nothing ever.
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De
Yeah, they're like a second assassination attempt, you know? Catastrophic flooding across what, five states?
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Charles
Yep. Did you see the thing I shared with you D My buddy Chris.
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Pete
Who.
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Charles
Did you see the thing I shared with you D About the. The welding?
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De
Yeah, yeah, I did. Yeah.
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Pete
Yeah.
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Jose
Normal days in clown world. Usa.
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Tyler Redick
Yeah.
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Pete
Normally Alabama gets. Southern Alabama gets a lot of this when a storm comes through, but it doesn't seem like we. I mean, I'm not in Southern Alabama, but I'm. I'm in central. I'm closer to the. Closer to the south than North. But a buddy of mine who. He lives up in East Tennessee. I mean, he lives, like, he's so East Tennessee. He lives north of Asheville, North Carolina. Yeah. Like, there's a dam out in his town. Bridges are down, you know, several people without power. He just moved there. He just bought a property that's like up on a hill. So he's been perfectly fine. He still has power and everything. But, yeah, this is really, really bad. And obviously, you know, because white people aren't in charge anymore. Not going to be able to do anything about this.
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Jose
Yep.
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De
Well, there's. I. I mean, it's kind of the news at the moment, but this was inevitable.
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Charles
Yeah.
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De
If it hadn't been this year, it'd be next, you know.
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Stormy
Yeah.
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De
Newport News is blacker than a tar pit. So, of course, like, what did you think was going to happen when you put a major shipping, you know, shipbuilding facility there and then mandated, you know, local hire and diversity and got rid of all the dudes that didn't want to take the job?
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Pete
What is that? No. What. What is that noise? It's driving me crazy right there. What is that?
- [306:53]
Charles
No idea.
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Pete
Who's that coming from? Stop it. It's going to make me insane. Oh, okay.
- [307:01]
De
Well, I can't hear anything.
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Pete
Okay. Yeah, it's fine. Go ahead. Go ahead. It could be me. I'm retarded. So. No, it's. Yeah, I'm just watching all this. You watch this, then you see Benjamin. I can't remember what his name is. I don't think it's Ben Braddock. I think it's over at. I am 1776 just released a. Did an article. I guess he went up to Springfield and it's exactly everything that you would think it is. It's the local. It's incompetence. It's locals getting rich. It's punish the white people, punish the poor people. Evict someone who's paying $800 a month rent and move in. A Haitian who somehow can pay 18, $1,500 a month rent or $2,000 a month rent into apartments owned by the mayor.
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De
Rob Brew, cheese and rice.
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Pete
We're just. It's over, man. Sorry, guys. A mutual of mine put it very well, very succinctly, On Twitter this week, he said, all of our solutions are Fed posts.
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Charles
Yeah. Yeah, that was correct.
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Pete
Yeah.
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Charles
Yeah. He, yeah, he's saying what I said in January.
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De
He's gonna come down that same thing for years later.
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Charles
Yeah, and exactly. I said that before Rittenhouse. I mean, I mean, your friend put it very succinctly, and I like the way he put it. I, I don't, I'm not diminishing that, but that's what I have pinned on my Twitter for since, what, January 4th of 2024. There is no peaceful solution. Yeah, I've had that pin for, like, 10, 11 months now. Yeah, 10 months. Like, there is no peaceful, peaceful solution. And the longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. Like, this is it. This is, this is hard. Yes. For those of you that remember him, this is Hartiste's motto writ large in blood on the wall. Diversity plus proximity equals war. For crying out loud, Detroit. Detroit is going to rip itself into pieces because the black gangs and the mestizo gangs are going to start going at it. And that's just going to go to Philly. That's just going to go to Atlanta.
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Pete
Yeah.
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Charles
It's going to go everywhere.
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De
Chicago, you have, you have Chicago. Well, basically what's happened in the last six months or so is that, is that black Americans have realized we can only afford one low iq, non working underclass at a time. And they're being replaced.
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Charles
Yes.
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De
And they're, they're good. I mean, they're gonna get violent about it. That kid, you know, who, from University of Chicago who said, you know, like, hey, look, dumb black people are killing some of the brightest people on Earth who go to the University of Chicago and robbing them. And it happens every year, and we need to talk about it. Right. Peter Schmidt. I, you know, I'm not entirely sure he's, you know, I, I, I'm a little leery of his association with nascent Kaufness, but that doesn't mean that, that in this particular instance, he's incorrect. And the fact of the matter is, right, like, like a Navy that doesn't have skilled machinists is not a Navy.
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Stormy
Right.
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De
It's a bunch of scrap metal at the bottom of the ocean.
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Charles
Bingo.
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Jose
The target for hypersonic missiles. Sitting duck.
- [310:26]
De
Yeah, yeah. You know, and if you can't have a population that's capable of being, you know, pardon, but, but, you know, autistic. About, like, every single weld. You're talking about freaking submarines, man. Yeah, every single one of these welds has to be perfect.
- [310:46]
Pete
Yeah.
- [310:46]
Charles
And not to. Not to belittle your point, you know, and. But not to belittle your point, Jose, but when you were saying it's target practice for hypersonic missiles, we. I think we'd be lucky for it to even be that these things aren't even going to get in out to sea. Like, they're. They're just going to sink. Like, good point. I mean, I mean, I mean, again, not to diminish your point, you're correct that they're not going to service, but this is. This is actually to agree and amplify your point. It's like we're. They're not even going to go anywhere. They're just going to sink and somebody's going to make a crap ton of money off the contract, and that's about it. And then here's the worst part of it. They're going to find a way to create another, like, little shell company and get paid to do it all over again. Like, that's the scam. You don't have to deliver because there's no punishment. There's. And that's. Honestly, that's another thing we need to bring back. I'm all about prison abolition.
- [311:38]
Pete
Yeah.
- [311:39]
Charles
Let's get rid of it. It's either beatings, hangings, or. Incredible.
- [311:43]
Jose
Yes, I'm about it, too.
- [311:44]
Charles
Yeah, that's it.
- [311:46]
Pete
Yeah, get rid of prisons and. Yeah, get rid of prisons and you. But we need to open asylums again.
- [311:54]
Tyler Redick
Yes.
- [311:54]
Pete
I've come to the conclusion this week that we need to. We need public asylums again.
- [311:58]
De
Right, Absolutely. Well, category tweet, you know, that there's basically no downside to just, like, executing violent felons. Like, and then. And the more you do it, the better things get. Until basically things are a paradise. Except that all the wrong people are, like, upset by this.
- [312:17]
Pete
Right.
- [312:19]
De
I just did a show with the guys over at myth of the 20th century. Like, half an hour ago, we closed up Talking about this 2015 book, Prisoners of Geography, right? Like, and basically the United States hit the jackpot. There's more navigable water, like, in the United States than the rest of the world put together between the Mississippi and the Great Lakes, right? We're talking about tens of thousands of miles of, like, easily transverse cheap transportation. And we've had it so easy here for so long that we've just indulged in stupid ideas and stupid people.
- [313:03]
Charles
Right?
- [313:04]
De
Like, half the Kamala voters don't even. Like, they don't belong in public, they just belong in insane Asylums.
- [313:10]
Charles
Literally.
- [313:10]
De
The only thing that would make these women better is to take away their SSRIs and force them to, to have seven children.
- [313:15]
Charles
Yes, unironically.
- [313:17]
De
Yes, unironically. This is not, this is not something that can be fixed. This is not something that can be like, oh, well, we like Donald Trump and things get better. Like, no, these people are a permanent problem until they're dealt with. And like, like, because the politics, all the problems that can be fixed.
- [313:37]
Charles
Yeah, because the politics are just extension of, of the dysfunction. Like, it's not. I mean, in a way it's become a vicious circle, right? In a way it's become a vicious circle. The dysfunctional people created a dysfunctional system and then the dysfunctional system creates a dysfunctional people. And what we have to do is we have to break the cycle. Like you said, a lot of these people, a lot of these women just need to have their SSRI taken off of them and they need to just, they, they just need to have kids. They just need a grounding force. They need. It's like, think of it like if you own a pickup truck, right? For those of you that own a pickup truck, what you have to do is you have to throw weight in the back during certain weather conditions. Snow, slick roads, stuff like that. And it allows it to drive more safely because that, that added weight keeps the tires on the road and keeps things moving forward.
- [314:30]
Pete
Right?
- [314:30]
Charles
And that's, that's, it's like women are the same way. They need a job. They're like a dog. If you don't, if you don't, if you don't train a dog, if you don't keep the discipline, it's going to run around and it's going to tear everything apart.
- [314:41]
De
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Charles
Look at people that don't have a firm hand with a dog. Look at how awful they are. They jump on you, they shit all over the place, they piss all over the place. They tear everything up. It's the same thing. People, people. Everybody needs a job, everybody needs a goal, everybody needs a purpose. Now, how that manifests and what those purposes are, well, obviously they're going to vary. But if we're painting with broad strokes, men need X and women need Y. And that's just how it is. And now we've. We've burdened one sex utterly and completely and entirely with everything under the sun, plus, plus more. And then the other, we've just completely unshackled and completely unblocked burden only to find out that that was equally terrible. Both are a terrible idea.
- [315:56]
Pete
Worse.
- [315:57]
Charles
Yes, worse.
- [315:58]
Pete
No, no.
- [315:58]
De
Like, this is a civilization ending. Yes. Like, this is Civilization will not survive because these people want a girl boss. And like, do the gritty over, like.
- [316:13]
Pete
Lol.
- [316:14]
De
We made bladder for Putin look stupid. Lol. We made Ji Jinping look stupid. Look at us. We're so great.
- [316:19]
Jose
Like, you're.
- [316:20]
De
Do you realize you insane are about to, like, start a global thermonuclear war because you can't read a map?
- [316:28]
Charles
Right.
- [316:29]
De
Liz Truss, before she was, when she was Foreign Secretary of, of of England, before she was briefly prime minister, like, went to the Russian foreign foreign minister, I can't remember who it was at the time, and he said to her, like, Rostov on Don is not, you know, like, will you let you, you know, is this in dispute? And let us, you know, are you going to take that? And she said, no, of course not. We're going to kick that back. And he's like, Rostov has been Russian for 400 years, has never been part of Ukraine. Like, this is. This lady can't read a map right? Like, this is. Do you understand the entire freaking conflict in Ukraine is over the fact that the Volga goes into the Caspian Sea, which is landlocked, and the Russians absolutely have to have. Have to have an outlet to the Black Sea and freedom of navigation of the Dardanelles, otherwise they're dead economically.
- [317:30]
Pete
Well, you know, and when it comes down to it, Ukraine doesn't need any of that because Ukraine. Ukraine's not a real country. They're not a real. They could be a real people, but they're not a real government. Okay, Right. Yeah.
- [317:42]
De
When someone else is paying for your pensions and paying for your wages and paying, like, you can't collect taxes and get. Like, this is not. And your army has been armed by someone else. And like, like, this is just, literally just a, A. The entire government of Ukraine is a puppet because the new ones and the blinkets are still salty about a pogrom from 350 years ago.
- [318:07]
Pete
Yeah, well, Ukraine is, you know, it's like, it's like Luttwak talks about. You have a country that cannot, they can't manufacture their own anything, basically. Well, what are they now? They're enslaved to whoever can do that. And that's exactly what they are to the United States. And people don't realize that because people just, they don't read, they don't have, they don't use logic. I mean, if you can't, if you can't manufacture your own jet fighters, you have to get them from the United States or you have to get them from England and then they have you by the balls, right?
- [318:46]
De
We talked about this. Sweden make the Gripen, the UK makes the Harrier and a few other jets that. France has its own capability of making jets, the US does. Canada used to have one, China has it, Russia has it, maybe South Africa. I forget if they still have an indigenous aircraft industry. You can't do it. You, you can't wage war without airplanes, okay? And every dollar you spend on airplanes is a dollar that's not going to things like, I don't know, roads and bridges and dams and we used to have enough money to be able to do both guns and butter. That was our big secret after the second World War. But when we closed the gold window in 73 after the Great Society and Vietnam, we were kind of running out of money. And we've kind of been running the printing press ever since. And people kind of pretended because we had the biggest army and everything else that we could do both at the same time. Well, it turns out actually you can't, can't import tens of millions of people with sub 100 IQs and provide them subsidized food and housing and health care and everything else and still run a first world country and pick fights with the Chinese and the Russians and the Iranians all at the same time. You might be able to do one of those things. But you know, if you really, really want to have a first world country, you have to have a first world population.
- [320:29]
Pete
So what?
- [320:30]
De
Every white person in Venezuela is in Houston. Basically. We can keep them. Everyone else has to go home.
- [320:39]
Pete
The one of the things when you look at is I've been saying this about immigration, especially these Haitians. There are a lot of aspects to this. One is punishment is here we're going to drop the most violent people in the Western hemisphere. I mean basically people who live like animals right into the Middle of your. Right into the middle of your community, just because. Just because we hate you. Then there are the people who are making money from this. The NGOs. The NGOs are funding this. What do they get out of this? They get money from the government, which is money from us. And then what happens? These people get sent into a place like Springfield and there's this whole system of graft that has been set up by locals who, you know where they live. I mean, you know, it's the old Sam, I'm not going to repeat the Sam Hyde line, but it's the Sam Hyde line, you know. And then you have, you know, like Benjamin, Benjamin Roberts from IM 1776. He went up to Springfield and he, he said this. He goes. Springfield Mayor Rob Roux claims to be helpless about federal directives. He claims he's done his best, talked to those who must be talked to and heard the speakers at City Hall. In truth, his hands are less clean. As well as serving as the mayor of Springfield, Rob Rue is the owner of Littleton Properties of Springfield llc, which owns six rental properties in Springfield. Going door to door, I confirm that at least four of these properties are rented to Haitian migrants. These tenants are not nuclear families, but multi generational households and including anywhere from 10 to 15 people crammed into one half of a duplex. It's not clear who's paying the rent. He's supposedly concerned about the government sending migrants and overwhelming his constituent services. But he's also making profit from it. The website, when you search the website, you can see his properties. His tenants don't speak English. When I interviewed him, I needed a translator. He said. At one point in my Door to Doridge investigation, a white man in a car began following me and honking incessantly in an attempt to drown out my recordings as I ended my inquiries at Mayor Rose Funeral Home business. He threw. I mean, he has a funeral home too. The fucking. I mean, another person just died the other day from a car accident from one of these savages. He said they threw a large metal object and yell. The guy in the car threw a large metal object and yelled at me to come over. I kept walking. Was this a member of Ruse security detail sent to discourage investigations? I mean, this is,
- [323:28]
Tyler Redick
It's.
- [323:29]
Pete
How do you fucking win? How do you, how do you do anything? If the people who are quote unquote, like at the top, the chief executive of a town is benefiting from this and is basically saying, fuck all of you, I mean, what do you do? It's Like I said, all of our fucking, all of our solutions are fed posts, right?
- [323:53]
De
Yeah, exactly.
- [323:54]
Pete
Because how else do you do this? I mean you can hope that Trump comes in and just, and says okay, people just got to do what they do. Put kids together and puts together some kind of task force to send them into towns like this, arrest these people, put them on trial, get rid of all these people and send them back to their godforsaken hell hole of an island. But I mean who wants to make a bet that that's going to happen?
- [324:20]
De
Well this, not only is that not going to happen, but
- [324:25]
Charles
I've talked about this on JJ. On the two bit podcast and I'll talk, I'll briefly touch on it again here. Like this is why they've spent a century now, two and a half a century and a half vilifying lynching and they've made it all about oh it's, it's just about abusing black people and, and the oppressed. It's like no, no, it's not. Lynching is when your government complete either doesn't exist or is effectively non existent and then you realize your community is going to have to deal with the problem and that's what it's for. And then that's the reason they vilified it. Because if, if we understood what lynching is, if we understood how it's supposed to be used and how it's been used historically, we would bring it right back today because we understand that there is as, as your friend put it very succinctly, every solution is a fed post. And as I put it more poetically, the longer we delay the inevitable, the bloodier the inevitable will be. And what we need. That's, that's why they vilified it because they know that's the only solution. Nobody is going to be able to come and fix the system because they all control it. And they spent time vilifying and criminalizing external means to fix the system, external regulations because they don't want to give you the option. They don't want to let you know and the only way is to risk it all like you said is to fed post. That's all you've got left at this point. What argument is anybody going to listen to? There is none. Nobody's going to listen any argument. All the sides are already.
- [326:00]
De
Not only is that, that the go ahead deep. So right like you went through this with COVID right. Like the only people who, who weren't completely insane about COVID were people who had alternative Sources of information, and we're willing to listen to them. You know, I'm going to publicly thank Charles. Charles saved my life by giving me the information ahead of time. Like, no, dude, you do not want to take this. I was pretty skeptical, but. But Charles was like, and let's not.
- [326:30]
Pete
And, and I'm sorry to interrupt you, but let's not forget there are a bunch of people, quote unquote, on our side that did nothing to counter signal Covid because they didn't want us be seen as counter signaling Trump. Trump or they didn't want to seem to be boomery. And I'm wondering how many of these people took the jab.
- [326:50]
Charles
Pete, I just want to jump in very briefly. Just want to jump in. First off, D. Thank you very, very much for that credit. I really appreciate it because you know how much work and how many countless hours I put into that. And Pete, I want to take your point and run with it too. You are so correct. I. I could hug you right now. I was. Now, I'm not saying I was the only person on Twitter to do it, because that would be disingenuous. That would be a lie. But I was the only. I was the first person that I knew of, out of all my followers that was deep diving into it, that was talking about it, that was addressing it from the word go. I still have, I think it was in March of. Of 2020. Check my Twitter. You can fact check me if you want, where I started laying out exactly what the plan was. And the phrase that I use was solidification of corporatocracy. And then eventually, I want to say six to ten months later, again, you can fact check me. There's a Philadelphia, a Pennsylvania judge that almost used my argument verbatim in his ruling about how a lot of these things were unconstitutional and illegal. But my point isn't to talk about my Constitution. The point is to say why I'm so grateful to both of you gentlemen, Dean, and you, Pete, are. Because, Pete, I was so lonely. I can't even begin to tell you how I was getting attacked from our own guys. Our own guys were trolling me and golden hammering me with the. I won't name names, but we're golden hammering me with their followers like, oh, this guy's an idiot.
- [328:20]
Pete
We know the names. We. We know that we know the names. Yeah.
- [328:25]
Charles
And it's just like I was getting go. And. And again, I'm not saying I'm literally the first person to have shouted out from the rooftops about it, but D will back me up. I was among the first, and I was certainly the first in my very small. I didn't have that many followers at that point, but I was. I still really don't. But I'm grateful for who I do have. But the point I'm saying is I was. I was a lone voice in the wilderness for a very, very long time. And you're 100% right, Pete. I will never forget that till they put me cold in the ground. Never forget that.
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Pete
Jose, you want to jump in here?
- [329:08]
Jose
Yeah. I'd like to go off on the point about lynchings and extra political violence because let's face it, if you look at human history, like 95 of it, especially up until like the mid 20th century, that's the way a lot of these disputes were adjudicated. And the reason they're demonizing a lot of the extra political means is that they want us to continue to be under this managed system of racial replacement where they make the population consume all manner of soma, whether it's porn out outrage, politics and a whole other distractions, while the elite continue to bring in more and more non white foreigners while also waging wars on behalf of the Talmudic serpent in Israel. So which accelerates this process. They want us to go out with a whimper. They don't want this to get heated. And that's why they continue to demonize this. And they continue to demonize any form of like muscular type of protest against the present order. Like say for example, what happened in Southport. Because that's really is what's going to get their attention is when people start getting loud, when they start kind of breaking decorum. Because they want us pacified. They want us to submit to this order and just disappear into the ether without even mounting any form of resistance.
- [330:43]
De
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- [331:53]
Charles
And to bring Jose's point, like the I, I truly and I sincerely, again, I mentioned this on the two bit, two bit podcast with Jason. I, I to your, your point, Jose, like, the real reason they shut that stuff down. And I'm going, I'm not going to backpedal. I'm going to stand on it and I'm going to, not only that, I'm going to, I'm going to press the pedal even farther to the floor. The real reason they do it is you want things to change. You want things to change. Watch how fast things change when four guys with T ball bats, not even baseball bats, T ball bats, show up to a city outside of a city council meeting late one night and they whoop the out of somebody for voting a certain way. I'm not saying kill anybody. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even saying maim anybody. When somebody goes home with a few cracked ribs and maybe a busted leg or a busted arm maybe, you know, and, and they say you, you're going to straighten up and you're going to fly, right? You watch how fast things turn around. Because as D will tell you as a married man with children, especially daughters, not, not to dox anybody, but just daughter or two in the mix, he's going to tell you, our feminine society only learns when it touches the hot stove. Am I right, D? That's when they learn. And, and these people, when they get an ass, they're going to learn real quick.
- [333:17]
De
Well, either, either that happens or you're seeing right now, right, like outside of in 2020 in Philadelphia, there were people, you know, there were armed Black Panthers, you know, with, with sticks outside voting precincts. So the idea that, that like there's this, this liberal idea of a world without coercion and violence is retarded.
- [333:43]
Tyler Redick
No, it's.
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Jose
Yeah.
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De
And, and the idea. And the correct. Is, you know, who, who holds the whip hand? Who, who's who. Who is sovereign and gets to make the decision of who gets to use violence and who doesn't. And that's the question.
- [334:01]
Charles
Yeah.
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Pete
You know, I've been, I've been saying since, since really, since COVID started, is man a good sheriff means would mean so much at this point. You know, a sheriff who knows how to deputize people. A sheriff who, if you have a good enough sheriff, Things like this just don't happen because, you know, he's going to deputize people and he's going to solve the problem. Are you. Is there a possibility that at the state level they may try to. Yeah, so what? So what? I mean, how is this. Yeah, I could understand one of us, I mean, we're talking about, you know, we've mentioned lynchings here. None of us want. And none of us want this. None of us want this at all. And we're not calling for this just in case anybody think we're saying that if there, if there is a threat, and that threat, threat normally would come from someone like a sheriff. A sheriff is meant to be there, to be the one who puts his foot down and says, no, not in this town. Not to my people. These are my people. They've been entrusted to me. They elected me. It's not going to happen here in this county.
- [335:26]
De
We have standards and sheriffs have done it before.
- [335:30]
Pete
I mean, Obama had everything ready to. For like the biggest gun ban of all time. And like a load of sheriffs, I mean, I mean, like more than 20 in California said, we're not going to enforce that. That is not going to happen here in California. And it basically killed it. And it happened in Illinois recently. A sheriff stepping up and having, like in Sylacauga, Alabama, right now, the sheriff is an interim sheriff and he looks like a retired rapper. And it seems like his only job is to protect the shibun who these fucking idiots elected to be like the head of the city council. Can we stop electing these fucking idiot. These fucking people who they should be at Waffle House, serving us at Waffle House. Okay? Not in front of a city fucking council.
- [336:30]
Charles
Well, because it's.
- [336:31]
Pete
Because you know what I respect? I go to Waffle House. I go to Waffle House all the time. I respect the waiters and waitresses at Waffle House more than I do these motherfuckers.
- [336:41]
Charles
Yeah, because. Because the waitresses and waiters at Waffle House are doing the job they were given. They're doing the job they were given these other people. That's just a retirement thing for them. Or it's, or it's a, it's a secondary income for them. Like, they don't take the job seriously. That's the problem. People have been. People have been. And I'm going to go back to your point. D People have been so spoiled for so long. Like America, be the beautiful says God shed his grace on thee. We have been graced with so much, blessed with so much. Which is why I'm a huge isolationist. But that's a whole other topic.
- [337:18]
De
Topic.
- [337:19]
Charles
But like we've been blessed with so much that people have gotten so. Complacent isn't quite the right word, but it'll have to suffice. So lazy. So complacent. When I say lazy, I'm not even talking about they don't want to work anymore. I'm not trying to go on some boomer rant about oh, my lazy workers and my bootstraps. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about intellectually lazy. They've outsourced all their thinking. They've outsourced all their. All processes, all their critical thinking, all their analyses. They've outsourced everything. They just want to kind of do their thing, watch their. Watch their sports, watch their television, play on their. Whatever. They don't want to think about anything. They don't want to see the world's crumbling around them. They don't want to address in the conflict. And that's the problem. Because they don't have to. Because the dominoes on their left and their right haven't fallen yet, even though all the others have. But those dominoes will fall and they're going to fall very, very soon. And you're absolutely right. I'm with you. I was. If I'm old school, you do your job and you work hard. I couldn't care if you empty trash or you're a CEO of a business. If you do the job to the best of your ability, deserve respect. We do an honest job. You deserve respect. But there's a book that addresses your point, Pete, specifically that I would highly recommend. It's by Matthew Truehella and it's called. Called the Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates. And it talks about the European tradition. More.
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Tyler Redick
More.
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Charles
The. The English, the Welsh, all that tradition. But European tradition in general of when lawful authority or is. Is not utilized or the people above tyranny. It's a defense against tyranny. It's. It's a defense against injustice. Where it is your. It is your duty. It is not your freedom. It is not your right. It is your duty to say no. It is your duty to go against the grain. It is your duty to protect your people, to protect your community, to c. To protect your locale. I highly recommend it. It's called the Doctrine of the Lesser MA Magistrates by Matthew Truella. And it talks all about the point you're raising. Raising Pete, all about that.
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Pete
Go ahead. Anyone who wants to go.
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De
Well, the problem in the first place, and this is the problem with the Nuremberg regime, is, like, prior to the Nuremberg regime, the people of Alabama knew that people like that shouldn't have any voice in public policy. They just said they might deal with the black community, but women like that, they weren't allowed near anything. The white people would go down to the Prince Hall Mason's lodge. They sit down with the black leaders of the community and say, all right, this is what we need. This is how it's going to be. You guys figure it out. And the leadership of the black community be like, all right, we're gonna need some walking around money. We're gonna need, you know, two seats in the city council. We're gonna need, you know, this and this. You know, jobs for people and, you know, so many police officers, etc, whatever, but they make a deal, and then things would basically function, you know, if you put your cat in a sled dog harness, and then you get mad at your cat because you're not going anywhere, who made the mistake, you or your cat?
- [341:04]
Charles
Bingo.
- [341:06]
De
Right? This is. If you want to go somewhere, get a team of huskies, line them up, and they'll take you wherever you want to go. Because they're like, this is great. This is a job. We want to run. We want to. Oh, we get to run. We get to run. Oh, really? We get to run. This is the best. Are we running? Are we running? We're getting to run today. This is the best. You seen what huskies are like when you. When you can get them in harness? They're like, oh, this is so cool. We get to run today. Whereas if you do the same thing for a bunch of cats, they'd, like, it'd be a tangled mess, and there'd be fights and. And, you know, it'd be a mess. You'd get nowhere. So why on earth are we letting people who can't do the job be in charge of anything? Right? I mean, you know, like, yeah, Kamala Harris is dumb and venal and all kinds of things. Like, at some point, you got to kind of feel sorry for her because she's been put in this position where it's like, like, right, we're asking her, like, okay, she's like a hammer made out of jello. Like, it's just not going to work, man. You know, like. Like, okay, how is this person who doesn't know anything, has never worked in the private sector. Her entire life has been, you know, put in place because of her loose morals and low standards. Like all of a sudden we're gonna require her like, knowledge and moral rectitude and, and, and seriousness is like, what? You know, this is not a recipe for success.
- [342:44]
Pete
And
- [342:46]
De
increasingly, you know, I'm not. I mean, of course, you know, the ADL or whatever would be like, yo, he's a terrible racist. Like, no, you're asking people like that poor lady from Silicon. She's. I'm sure she's a vile human being and terrible in every single way. I'm sure she's on the take. I'm sure she's, you know, got lots of like, low level schemes that, that, you know, damage the public. Fisk. I'm sure her boyfriend or, you know, her niece or somebody has been given a no show job. I'm sure like all kinds of stuff. But like, that's what happens. Eric Adams, you know, the mayor of New York, he's been indicted for being corrupt. It's like he's a black politician. That's literally inherent in how they operate. Why are you mad that your dog shot on the lawn?
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Charles
Right, Yeah, I put that very black.
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De
It's inherent in the way they operate. From James Clyburn on down. They're all crooked, they're all guilty of fraud and corruption and that's the way the system has been set up.
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Charles
Well.
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De
And they've never operated any way differently.
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Charles
Yeah, I put my first book. And I said, I said with you, if you give your dog a treat every time it pisses on the carpet, don't be upset at the cleaning bill. That's in my first book. And it's the same. This is, it's exactly the point you're addressing. It's also why I don't have hate in my heart for the black community. I don't. I really don't. Even. Even with all I've been through and as Pete and I talked about on, on the first time he and I spoke on his broadcast about race war in high school. I don't have hate for that community. I really don't. I sincerely and truly don't. I have, I have Christian love for them. But that. What, that's also a paternal love. It also doesn't mean I think you should be allowed to commit crimes and be held to no standard. And none of that, like you were saying, D. Like, like everybody will scream and call me a racist. And it's Like, I'm not. I. I love. I love them like a Christian. I just don't put up with dumb behavior, shitty behavior. And I also don't burden them with expectations that they couldn't possibly meet. You know, if you. People wonder why they're. Why they're violent, people wonder why they're always angry, why they're so dissatisfied, it's like, well, if I'm constantly holding. Holding you to a standard that you can't meet, you'd be pissed off too. And this isn't to make excuses for them. That's not what I'm doing. I'm not making excuses for anybody. But what I am saying is I'm addressing your point, D. And I'm agreeing and I'm amplifying with it. And that is to say, don't be. It's not the cat's fault that it couldn't pull your. Your dog sled. You gave it the wrong job. And this is the problem. At the end of the day, this is the problem with, with quote, unquote, equal equality and why it's inherently satanic. It's because hierarchy is the only way to make things function. And for people to find a certain contentedness. I won't say happiness, but I'll say contentedness with their lot in life. Because when you're where you belong, when you're where you. Where you feel that you. You succeed, you're much more content, you're much more stable, you're less depressed, depressed, you're less angry, you feel more in tune with the universe. You feel more in rhythm with things. And when you pull, get pulled out of that, either up or down, it throws everything off and it throws one's life into turmoil. And that's, that's why we do nobody any assistance by trying to either pull them up or push them down. Let water seek its own level. That's. That's how it shapes should be.
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De
As far as I'm concerned. No one started out a master of their trade, whether it's blacksmithing or like. No one. No one's inherently just like a general, capable of seeing the whole battlefield and understanding, you know, the movements of tens of thousands of men. And like, you got to start out being responsible for, you know, a company or a squad. You got to be a lieutenant and then a captain and then a major and then a lieutenant colonel and then a colonel and then a general and then, you know, get promoted on higher up. No one starts a master craftsman to the trade. Everyone's got to start At a spot where they don't know what they're doing. They don't know their elbow from a hole in the ground. And we're essentially taking people that haven't gone through that process either individually or on a civil or collectively, and then expecting them like, okay, like, Haitians don't know how to drive. Well, why, why should they? And then we're being like, okay, well, you should be able to drive F1 with all these Germans and Swedes. Like, what? No, they're just gonna get themselves killed. They're just gonna hurt a bunch of people because they don't. They don't know. And I'm not defending any of them. They need to go back like Pete said. But. And this is. This is the real understanding. Like, this is really malicious, this mayor. Right. The purpose of a system is what it does. Everybody knows that X amount of little kids are going to get run over and on their way to school in a crosswalk because the Haitian doesn't know how to break their, you know, like, doesn't how to use the brakes on a car. They know that, you know, certain amount of rapes are going to occur, certain amount of petty theft, certain amount of assault, certain amount whatever. They know that this is going to happen, and they let it happen anyway. So that's what the. That's what they're intending to do. The tens of millions of girls, or tens of thousands of girls, probably millions of girls who've been raped in England, But Pakistani gangs, they know it and they want it to happen. The crime in America, from black inner cities, they know it and they want it to happen. This isn't. This isn't 1956. We're like, oh, gosh, what could happen? No, this is. This is 50 years or 60 or 70 years after we know what's going to happen. Race war in high school was half a century ago. There's no excuses now. So the question they have to ask you, dear listener, is do you want to live in a civilization or not? And if you do, there's certain things that are going to be required. And legitimacy of the system is one of those things that might or might not survive. Whatever is required.
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Pete
Yeah, the. I. I just found this online. One of my mu. One of my mutuals shared it, and it goes to something that we said was something we were talking about earlier. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna share this and play this because I think I just find it very interesting that this was. This was shared with me right. Right at the time. Right at the time that, you know, we're talking about this. So let me get this up here. Hold on. This is from a podcast called the Berm Pit. I think it's like ex Marines kind of guys. But I'm, I want to see if anybody can detect any lies here at all.
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De
The funny thing is, the funny thing is, you know where I stand on this.
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Charles
The whole reason that this country's up is because there is no right wing violence. Left wing violence is why this country
- [350:30]
De
is in the shape that it's in.
- [350:32]
Charles
Because all the violence is being carried out to push left wing policy, left wing ideology, and none of it is used to push.
- [350:39]
De
There is no violence from the right.
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Charles
Pushing right wing ideology and right wing policy.
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De
Where's the lie?
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Pete
No lies detected.
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Tyler Redick
Yeah.
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Charles
If you saw true right wing violence, you would see the Federal Reserve abolished by physical force, by physical violence. You would see tax codes and tax laws completely eradicated and erased by, by right wing violence because that's a right wing policy. You would see more abortion clinics being freaking blown up. You would see BLM being shot, shot in the streets like dogs whenever that happened in 2020. And also you would have saw the right wing shooting any government official, including law enforcement, for protecting their businesses from being unconstitutionally shut down. There is no right wing violence. And that's why our constitutional rights are being trampled.
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De
Because you know who did, historically speaking,
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Charles
use the best right wing violence?
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De
Scotty Sieverts, Waco.
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Charles
No, that was another, that was another thing. The founding fathers.
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De
Yeah, Right wing viol violence.
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Charles
And the nation of America was born because of it. That's just a fact.
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De
It is a fact. I would only quibble the founding fathers were right wing, but otherwise he's 100 correct.
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Charles
That's exactly that. I'm with you.
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Pete
Well, yes, exactly.
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Charles
Well, yep, that would be the.
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Jose
Literally any serious political, any serious political movement that wants to actually establish a legitimate political order, order is going to have to use like a certain degree of violence and coercion. Like that's just like, that's not even up for debate. To deny that is just like engaging in, in an, a historical analysis of how like, political orders emerge and violence
- [352:30]
De
inherent in the system. Right. Like this is, this is, this is the way it goes. And like these people want to pretend that, that there's such a possibility as a system without violence. And like there just isn't. That's the nature of a system. The nature of a government system is. The nature of government is the government says this violence is acceptable and this Violence is not.
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Charles
Yes, that's exactly it in a nutshell.
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De
That's exactly, that's literally the point of government is to legitimize certain kinds of violence and to legitimize certain other kinds of violence.
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Jose
Yes, friend enemy distinctions.
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Charles
And I would.
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De
The second you say, oh well, that's not going to happen, a biker gang is going to move in and, and say this kind of violence is acceptable and this kind of violence isn't.
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Charles
Right.
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De
So you're going to have a, you're going to have a government no matter what.
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Charles
Yeah.
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Pete
And that's the post Nuremberg order. And, and this is what people will not. This is what people still fight me on is we talk about the post Nuremberg order and who instituted the post Nuremberg order. Read the authoritarian personality that book lays out. All the recommendations that they had in that book have come to pass. Destroy the family, destroy churches, make right wing illegal. And people do not want to accept the fact that a book that was commissioned by the American Jewish Committee was their playbook and that the way you can tell us their playbook is everything they recommended was done. Okay.
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De
If someone tells me personally using violence, I get arrested in the international thought group. But just hypothetically, let's say me and a whole bunch of other fathers, daughters, found every male trune who wanted to use the bathroom with our girls
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Tyler Redick
and
- [354:25]
De
persuaded them that they didn't want to do that anymore.
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Charles
Right.
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De
Okay. In any society prior to 1950 in America, they'd be like, what took you so long?
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Charles
Right, exactly like. And here's the, here's the worst part of it all. Me, as far as far as I'm concerned, as far as I see things, it's, it's, it's not just the lack of, of, of right wing violence that, that is, that is the issue to me, to me it's, it's that not only is it the lack of such, it's that what's the difference between left wing violence and right wing violence? Right wing violence is far more surgical in its nature than left wing violence. Left wing violence is generally just destabilization tactics. That's generally what it is. Now I'm sure somebody could quibble here and there with me, but overall that's the purpose of left wing violence. Just overthrow whatever stamp stability exists and then try and quickly fill the vacuum. That's it. Whereas right wing violence, as you point out, d it's hey, we don't want these guys in our daughter's bathroom. It starts there, it stops there until the next issue or Arises. Hey, we don't want this taught in our schools. Maybe all these books need to disappear. Maybe these teachers don't need to be teaching here anymore. Whatever. Then it stops, Then it starts again.
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Pete
Patriarch.
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Charles
It's patriarchal in nature. And you want. You're either going to have your, your dad lay down the law or you're going to have your mom lay down the law. And you never want mom to lay down the law. And in fact, a good mom doesn't want to lay down the law.
- [356:08]
De
The law.
- [356:08]
Charles
Why? Because she's not good at it. Because mom is not good at laying down law. Because the rules change with Mom. Because a lot of things that she does are on a whim or on her moods. You know, one day it may be okay, the next day it may not be. And this isn't an, this isn't to attack women. It's just again, to go back to what you were saying, D. You can't put the harness on a cat. It's just not going to work. So you want, you can either have mom lay down the law or dad. You always want dad. Because again, unless it's a really dysfunctional family, dad is going to say, hey, this is the rule today, this will be the rule tomorrow, this will be the rule next month. And that's just what it's going to be. You know where your boundaries are, you know what you're going to be allowed to do and what you're not going to be allowed to do. But mom will bend and, and with the wind. And that's the difference between the two forms, forms of violence and why left wing violence is so much more deleterious to the social fabric. Not only because that's its intention to be more deleterious to the social fabric, but because by its very nature, it is not constructive, it is not surgical. Its main goal is not to build or to heal. Whereas right wing violence, the main goal is to heal or to build. Maybe not in the short term, but definitely in the mid to long term.
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Jose
Yeah. Yeah. One thing to know about a lot of like, right wing violence, especially the accepted variety, is that it tends to also be pretty reactive in nature. Because I think the left is proactively decent, destabilizing when it comes to how it ushers in all this violence. In its political orders, they're like, designed to disrupt and destroy things. And I think one of the main issues with the right, especially in my time observing how they do politics, is that they will take small victories. Whether it's like with gun Rights or any type of like transgenders policy, but they don't really build off of them. They don't try to go towards the nexus of organized jewelry and the myths it's created with the Nuremberg regime. They're content with these very marginal victories and they pack it in where we have to be taking a much more systematic approach where yes, you can engage in gradualism, which I accept, but you have to have like the target mind. You have to define, define who the enemy is and their myths and then replace it with your own myths and narratives as you move politically.
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Charles
That's an excellent point, Jose.
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De
The right wing are reactive and not systematic thinkers. They don't, they don't. The. It became illegal to be a systematic thinker on the right after 1948 or 1946. You know that that's just right. Francis Parker Yaqui had a systematic, well thought out critique of what went on. Right. Even Pat Buchanan, who I love but, but isn't, you know, he's kind of weak sauce for what we really need, right. Any systematic critique of like oh, Pat Buchanan's a Nazi,
- [359:37]
Tyler Redick
right.
- [359:38]
De
So any kind of real honest to goodness look at where we're at and what's necessary or just the truth of things. Right. Is not allowed under present conditions. And that's the point of the system. The point of the system right now is to outlaw political self actualization white people to make an effective government.
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Pete
There's only one group that is allowed to commit violence and commit violence against the innocent, commit violence against anyone they want. And they're doing it as we speak, right? Yeah. They're attacking a country that is 30 to 40% Christian. They're killing Christians. And a lot of Christians in this country are clapping their hands like fucking seals, you know, buying like sheep. And they're like, oh, they could do whatever they want. You know, they, yeah, you know, I get. Yeah, they can do. Yeah, just dropping friggin bombs that you paid for, right on building.
- [360:47]
De
You just signed a bomb that's going to go kill Russians.
- [360:51]
Jose
Yeah. Most ghoulish shit seen this week, that's. Oh yeah, that's the real sovereign.
- [361:02]
Pete
These are, you know, you, you just watch, you know, if you're on the right telegram channels, you can watch this happen in almost real time. And it is just, it is a city block and all of a sudden, boom, a building is gone. Why? Because a certain group that has brainwashed you into believing that they have. Because of, because of something, because of some terrible thing that happened to them 85 years ago. They can do anything they want, kill anyone they want, make up any lie about. Well, there was someone hiding in the basement. So we had to kill 2,000 people to get the one guy in the basement. Oh, what did the 2,000 people do? Oh, are you an anti Semite? Go fuck yourselves. Fuck you. It's fucking done. Over. I don't care anymore. Fuck you.
- [361:59]
De
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Charles
Yeah, yeah, it's.
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De
If you're going to do that, if you're going to be that way, be that way without my money and without like saying, let's you and him fight, right, to people that control, you know what, the access to 40% of the world's oil, like, yeah, I, I don't think my, my eggs doubling in price over your shenanigans and the Houthis shutting down the Red Sea is worth it. Sorry, you can call me any name you want, but I don't think it's worth it. And I'm perfectly okay to think that. And it's perfectly okay for me to say I don't want you, you know, still mad about a program from 3, 375 years ago to, you know, start shit with Russia and risk nuclear war. And I don't want you to risk the entire world's oil industry grinding to a halt and energy prices doubling or tripling because you, you all of a sudden can't get along with your neighbors. I don't think it's a good idea to start ship with China because you are worried about them having, you know, unfettered access to the sea. Well, the Chinese can't let you control the Straits of Malacca and freeze them out of the energy industry or a billion Chinese people die. So when you make threatening moves like, oh, well, you know, if you mess with us, we'll do this thing, you know, it's just a repeat of what happened with Japan in 1940, in 39, like, the Japanese had to attack the U.S. navy because the U.S. navy was going to make the Japanese starve to death. If the, if the United States presently is like, oh, we have to contain China and prevent them from access to the resources, like, do you understand what you're doing? And the answer is for most of them, no. They don't. They're stupid and venal and corrupt and dumb. And if a system that lets these people be in positions of responsibility is an illegitimate system, and I'm not going to pretend anymore that, that I need to give my loyalty or my tax dollars or anything, unless you point a gun at my head, I'm not going to support it anymore. Kamala Harris is a dumb prostitute. No. No system that's legitimate, that has a valid future for my children would put her in any kind of position of responsibility whatsoever. Tim Walls is a creepy pervert. Any. Any system that lets him anywhere near a position of responsibility is illegitimate. Any system that lets Anthony Blinken pretend he's a diplomat as opposed to just a. A bloodthirsty Zionist warmonger is illegitimate. Joe Biden has. His brain, has more holes than Swiss cheese. Any system that puts him in notional charge of anything is illegitimate. And I'm not saying I love Donald Trump or I'm going to be super happy when Donald Trump, like Donald Trump's on probation with me. He's not nearly done enough to help ordinary people in this country. But this system is illegitimate. You know, Pete, you linked a report like, Texas is among the better governed states in the country, and the state and local governments in Texas are screwed without federal intervention.
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Jose
Oh, yeah, I can attest to that.
- [365:56]
De
Yeah, screwed. Tens of thousands of dollars of debt per person on the state and local county levels.
- [366:04]
Charles
Right.
- [366:05]
De
Well, so there's just no way this system can continue as it is.
- [366:09]
Charles
Well, to address your point, D. Just very briefly, one thing that's been coming to mind for a while now is we are learning the hard way. We. And when I say we, I mean humanity itself. But the west in general is learning the hard way that certain people were marginalized for a reason. And it was a good reason. Like, no, you're marginalized because you can't do these things. That's why you're off to the sidelines. No, we're not putting you in the game because you can't play it well. So get off to the sidelines and. But again, this goes back to what I was trying to say earlier about this is why equality is inherently satanic. Because again, you're pulling people in where they don't belong, where they cannot function. It's not even a matter if they will or they won't. Now, we both know that they probably wouldn't even if they could just because they're corrupt and venal, etc, but they couldn't even if they wanted to. So in short, that's. That's something that's been coming to my mind for a long time. People were marginalized for a reason and for whatever flaws we've been bombarded with. With tales of over the last two centuries about aristocracy and monarchy. Those things were built over more or less qualified people, capable people working and breeding their way into positions like they got there because they could do the job. And my argument for saying that they could do the job is stability, more or less, for hundreds of years. Were there wars? Of course there were. There are always going to be wars. But the entire social fabric was not torn to pieces. That happened much, much later after we got rid of most of these people. And. And that's. That's my take on it, as far as I see things to dovetail with your point.
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De
Yeah. Make a God beat.
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Pete
Yeah. And I really think, you know, something like what we're watching right now in Israel, what they're doing really helps me to understand who my real friends are. You don't have to like Islam. You don't have to like Muslims. You don't have to like Hamas. You don't have to like Hezbollah. You don't have to like any of these people. But if you think they're more of an enemy to you than those psychotic maniacs who are run by the City of London trademark, by the people who basically have held banking hostage in this country for a century, who own your mortgages or your debt or anything, basically own you. I mean, go fuck you. You know, you're over there. If you're at that point as well. If you're celebrating the assassination, you know, if you're making fun of these, of, oh, this assassination, because apparently the person who replaced the head of Hezbollah has already been assassinated. And there's people celebrate. There are people laughing at that on, you know, who are supposed to be on our side. Who the fuck. Who in Hezbollah has control of the. Of the press in this country? Who in Hezbollah. Who in Hamas has control. Brought porn to this country? Who controls Hollywood? Yeah, we're not living under hog manism. The fuck is wrong with you people? Who the fuck did this? And if you can't. If you're so fucking blind or you're so fucking. I need to be a good person. I can't be one of those people who sees a Jew behind every bush. You literally. You stop listening. Stop listening to us.
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De
Well, you're welcome to see Canadian healthcare. Like, the problem isn't right.
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Tyler Redick
Okay?
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De
The. The reason all those southern states flooded isn't that it rains and that they get hurricanes, okay? That's happened for hundreds of years. The reason those states flooded is Tennessee doesn't have the budget to do proper maintenance any longer because Memphis, man made disaster.
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Pete
Yeah.
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De
Because Memphis exists. And who's in Memphis and who made Memphis the way it is? It wasn't good old boys from the Appalachians, okay. It was Robert Moses and. Levitt and Sons, builders. And the. All the people who were the lawyers on Shelly V. Kramer were not black. They were Jewish. And every. And you know, the. The man, Victor Gruen, the man who invented the shopping mall. You know, the people who invented the shopping mall. VICTOR Gruen, Jew like, if those people weren't forced to pave a third of their state in Walmart parking lots, maybe that rain would have been absorbed by the ground like God intended. And maybe there wouldn't be as bad a flooding. And maybe the people could live in places that weren't so far away. So they didn't require massive roads, so the bridges wouldn't be washed out, because the bridges weren't. So, like, there's this whole cascade of failures that at the heart of it is Jews took control of our society and they used non whites, particularly blacks, as bioweapons. Until you're willing to say that.
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Pete
Yeah.
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De
You are not dealing with politics as it actually exists.
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Pete
Yeah.
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Charles
Well, it goes like. It's like my experience.
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De
You are not dealing with the real world.
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Charles
Yeah, it's like my experiences in Philadelphia D. They keep talking about, oh, we, you know, the housing shortage. Houses are so expensive. The housing shortages. They're not building enough homes. Like, we don't need to build homes. There's. There's plenty of homes. The homes should be. Honestly, homes should be pretty damn cheap. All you got to do is two things. Stop illegal immigration. Yeah, yeah. And start enforcing laws. That's it. Like, that's. Start executing everybody that has more than five felonies. That's it. Five or more felonies. You get the ax, you get the guillotine. That's it. Like, I can't tell you. There's whole. Philadelphia, Chicago, I'm Atlanta. There's plenty of. Plenty of homes. Homes everywhere that. That a young couple could get very cheaply and start a family.
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Tyler Redick
And.
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Charles
And very cheaply. Oh, maybe they need to move into something bigger down the line. Sure. But a. A young married couple, one kid, easily plenty of homes, tons of them. But you don't want to live there because they're not safe, because there's no order. There's no Law and every. The infrastructure is completely collapsed, but there's homes. There's plenty of them. You just reclaim them. Take about five years. That's about it. Not even maybe two or three. I'm sure guys like you and me.
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De
Not even that.
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Charles
Yeah. Could get together and fix it in two.
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Pete
Go ahead.
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De
Yeah. Half a potential. You give me a free hand and a first half of a presidential term. I could. I could get. It's 80, 20. And this is the thing.
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Charles
Yeah, exactly.
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De
Again. Yeah. I'll tell you who's responsible for the war in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland.
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Charles
Yeah, we'll make.
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De
Who's responsible for the war in Ukraine? Victoria Newland.
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Charles
Go ahead. I'm sorry, I think I got a terrible lag. Please. No, I have a terrible lag. Sorry. Go ahead.
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De
Like, the. The. The people responsible for the war in Ukraine are Jews. People responsible for the trouble on the Middle east are Jews. People responsible for.
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Pete
And by the way, this isn't only us saying this. I mean, go on Judge Napolitano show. They admit it. Colonel Douglas MacGregor has been saying this. Half the people. Go on Douglas on Judge Napolitano show. Talk about this. This isn't a bunch of anti Semites saying this. This is people who just are like, it cannot be denied anymore.
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Jose
Yeah. Anybody with a functioning brain and that can, like, recognize basic patterns understands this. And to echo Pete's frustration, it's. It is like a litmus test that if you're not able to recognize organized jewelry, um, you've effectively either A, become an enemy or B, a, um, a useful idiot for this fake polarized regime that relies on the left in this, like, controlled, pseudo populist right. That just functions as, just like, the wing of, like, this predatorial, talmudic bird of prey that is designed to just constantly attack this population. It's just like, at this point in the game, I've. That I've been doing this analysis for well over a decade. It gets frustrating, to be honest, with people falling for the same tricks. And it comes down to the lack of, like, the basics where they cannot do a basic friend enemy distinction and identify who the actual enemy is.
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De
Yep. It's 100% true. So, Jose, you're an expert on firearms and concealed carry and gun rights and all that other stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the gun control movement in America is exclusively run by Jews.
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Jose
Yeah. Bloomberg Zoros orgs.
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Tyler Redick
Yeah.
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Jose
There is largely bankrolled.
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Tyler Redick
Right.
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De
I mean, it's. It's black people saying we're too violent to be Trusted with guns. So make us take, so take them away. And then Jews saying, oh well, take them away from everybody. Which like okay, I'm fine with like guns being taken away from black people. Like yeah, okay, yeah, not a problem. I don't, I don't see the issue with that. And this is, this is white conservatives biggest problem. Well that's against the second amendment. No, the second amendment was intended for white people to be able to defend themselves against savage Indians and slave uprisings. Like that's what right. Like this is not. And, and like your point about not being able to make the friend enemy distinction, Jose is completely correct. Like the, the friends of civilization and good order are conservative white men. There was a study going around like hierarchical, individualistic white men are the only people who don't fall for the global warming scam, are the only people who didn't fall for the COVID scam, Are the only people who think guns, you know, who are correct on guns and abortion. They're the only people who are correct in homeschooling. Like you take every other issue. There's essentially the masculine brain men that have the right opinions about this stuff and then there's the feminized mass media, zombified everybody else. And for the libertarians who still listen, your party nominated a sodomite socialist out of stupidity and inability to draw the friend enemy distinction.
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Jose
I would also add one thing about the second amendment movement because I've largely exited that space, but I have a different understanding now. I believe that one problem with the normie pro second amendment movement is the framing they've used. They've seen it as like a liberty versus tyranny thing, whereas it really should be viewed more as a exercise of collective white political power versus as a, as like a mechanism to defend against a growing like horde of non white golems that the Jews have activated. Because of the simple fact is when you go to like, if you take the like the second amendment absolutist route, you're going to be eventually defending the right, the so called right to bear arms for illegal aliens and dysfunctional non white minorities. And that's going to lead to like a really nasty scenario.
- [378:41]
De
You absolutely believe that schizophrenic should be able to own a gun because yeah,
- [378:45]
Jose
it's going to lead to like a huge chimp out as the system breaks down. And that's one of the big issues I've had with a lot of these movements is that there's been certain organizations that have been pushing this nonsense it's like. No, it's. This is a. The right to bear arms is very much a Northern European political construct that was designed by white people and it specifically for them. And when you have this whole mishmash of people from all over the global south coming in, you're basically giving them the ability to form their own type of like, ethnic militias and even statelets. Like, what's to say that the illegal aliens coming from Mexico And Mesoamerica, they 20, 30 years later start to turn into like, effectively drug cartels and other entities that will form their very own statelets here and reconquer Azatlan, if you will.
- [379:44]
De
Like, they're already doing it. Like, Like Atlanta is effectively a bantustan.
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Charles
What did they just do in. Wasn't it Denver, Colorado? They vet his arm. Venezuela started taking over Colorado. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's already happening. Like, not only are you correct, Jose, you're. You're more correct than you're giving yourself credit for being. It's already happening. They're already here. It's already being done.
- [380:09]
Jose
Yeah,
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Pete
you know, it's. I was, I recorded last night with president of the Central Committee for the OGC Old Glory Club, Red Hawk. And we were talking, we did a whole episode about conservation and about how conservation is right wing. And we talked about. I mentioned the national association for Gun Rights and he was talking about, well, all these gun rights organizations, they've won in most places and everything. Now it's time to switch. If someone like the national association for Gun Rights switched to conservation and like real environmentalism and started pushing, well, what's the first thing that we would talk about? If we want to really clean up the environment and conservatorship, we have to start deporting people. We need less people here.
- [381:03]
Jose
Absolutely.
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De
The Sierra Club used to be based on immigration, and then a Saturday person bribed them with hundreds of millions and. And they changed their tune. Right. This is, you know, the City of London, financial Rothschild, whatever you want to call it, like, it's just zog. Until you're willing to talk about that and the realities of race and the reality of weaponizing women, that you're not dealing with reality. It's like trying to do physics without understanding Newton's laws of motion. You're just going to be wrong all the time. And I'm sick to death. Had it up to my back teeth of just dealing with people who refuse to engage with reality. To quote my good friend Borzoi. All we're asking is that you engage with Reality. And the question isn't what should we do vis a vis the Jews or Hezbollah or Iran or whatever right now? Because we're not in charge, right? Everyone in, in Congress but Thomas Massie has an APAC minder. Apex in charge. Apex in charge of who gets, you know, Pete doesn't have a YouTube anymore. Why? Because Apex said he shouldn't. You know, that's why APAC and the EDL say, oh, well, you know, I mean, you make too much sense. So you can't speak on the Internet. We'll get you banned off Twitter. We'll get you banned off PayPal, we'll get you banned off Facebook. We'll get you banned off Trovo and, and D Live and all these other things because we can't let you talk. Well, I thought we lived in a liberal system where everyone got to talk. Isn't that what the point is? But no, it's not. He's. He is sovereign who makes the exception. So instead of sensible people talking sense in Sylacauga, Alabama, you've got this woman who's notionally the head of the, you know, city council saying, well, I don't. We need to talk about that. Because it's about the way people look. No, you dumb bitch. It's, it's that everyone who looks like you is stupid and incapable of living in a civilized society. The, the looking is, you know, just literally coincidental. The problem is, you know, behind the eyes.
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Charles
Right? No.
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De
Their brains don't function well enough to live innocent.
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Charles
Right. We have been judging you by the content of your character. That, that, that's the joke. Like, like, like that's the bitter humor in it. It's like, no, we have been, right? You think that's it. It just so happens all of you that you think that way, look that way. That's all. It just so happened.
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De
Right. One of the great privileges of my life is I got to know some of the best Southern nationalists in the history and be associated with some of those guys for several years. You're telling me that someone who grew up in rural Virginia, whose ancestors owned plantations for 350 years. Or 400 years, didn't understand these people lived cheek by jowl with them for four centuries and they have no idea. Why do you think all the white people in Mexico, all the Iberians in Argentina and Brazil and Chile and Bolivia say, oh, no, no, no, no, you can't let these indios have like, liquor or guns because they'll just like, they will make mistakes. There's not this notion that I'm wrong because I'm dealing with the reality right in front of my face. There's spiritual components too, like Hades, literally cursed by demons. We can get into that at some other time. But that somehow I can't make any kind of value judgment because that would be racist. See Canadian healthcare, buddy. You know, go. Go somewhere else so that those of us who actually care about living in a place with, you know, no dysentery can. Can forge a future. Because the way you're going, there's going to be dysentery everywhere. I guarantee you after all this flooding that's happening in four or fives, there will be outbreaks of disease due to diversity in these places.
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Pete
I mean, they're already. It's already being reported in Springfield, like in the hospitals that the amount of people coming in there with aids, with hiv.
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De
Yeah.
- [386:23]
Pete
Coming in there with tb coming. I mean.
- [386:25]
De
Oh, gonna be leprosy soon.
- [386:28]
Pete
Smallpox things. I mean, we're gonna, we have no idea what we've imported in here. I mean, we have an idea of what. What. What we're importing.
- [386:36]
Charles
Yeah.
- [386:36]
Pete
But most people don't have, don't have a clue yet as to what, what's being brought in here.
- [386:41]
Charles
Yeah, I think I'll comment on this.
- [386:44]
Jose
When, when I lived in Chile for a bit, this was like 2014 to 2017. I actually had a lot of experiences with Haitian migrants then. And at that time, Chile had the first cases of leprosy for, like, well over a century due to that mass migration wave. And that was like 10 years ago.
- [387:04]
Charles
So.
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Jose
Yeah.
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Pete
Yeah, like in, in two, in. In 19, in 2003, when I was in. When I was living in Romania, there was like one place in the world that had leprosy and that was like Moldova. There was one leprosy, you know, leper colony there and everything. And now you're starting to see it. You're hearing about cases everywhere. Why? Because since then, this policy of mass migration. And I just recorded with John Fieldhouse, a friend of de's, reading Martin van Krebold's War on Migration. Yeah. War on migration. Migration is war. It is. You are declaring war upon a population. And he just goes through, we went through the whole article where he's just talking about how movements of people is. War is how you defeat a people.
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Charles
Right.
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Pete
Yeah. And.
- [388:02]
Charles
Right.
- [388:03]
De
The English are no longer sovereign in London because it's North Pakistan.
- [388:06]
Charles
Well, I, I think we've discussed this
- [388:08]
De
previous and that was a war.
- [388:10]
Charles
I think we've discussed this. Touched on this previously and I, because I recall mentioning, I thought it was on this program where, where. You're absolutely right, Pete. My migration is war. It absolutely is. But I would say, and again, I'll agree and amplify what my, what our cohort is saying here. I think it's even more so in the, in the modern era, in the democratized era. It's even more so because now if we have universal suffrage, everybody gets a vote. Man, woman, and you know, let's be honest, child effectively at 18. It, it's just then that now it's even more. You don't need a gun. Why would you need a gun? Just show up and start voting. It's that simple. Like a gun is, is actually pointless. Why risk your life? You don't need to. They will literally hand you the power. Just walk in the door. That's how insane universal suffrage is. Literally just walk in the door and you have your hands on the lever of power. Now some may say, oh, but one vote doesn't count. Yeah, but If I bring 20,000 people in your community, it certainly does. Especially If I bring 20,000 people in that are from a very tribal society, a very close knit society. It absolutely does. Especially if I bring in a very uncomplicated people where their needs are very simple. I want Gimme dats, I want shelter, I just, I just want Gibbs. Like that's super simple. If that's all your community is, it's a very tight knit, very basic people, very uncomplicated, then you're going to form a voting block overnight. You don't need to shoot anybody, you don't need to take over anything. You don't need a plan. Just show up and start saying give me that.
- [389:56]
De
The great Gregory Hood has. The great Gregory Hood as a phrase. There is no ideology with black people in America. They want crime to be legal and they want access to the public fisc. That's it.
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Stormy
Yep.
- [390:12]
Jose
Just give me that. That's basically the mentality.
- [390:15]
Charles
Yeah.
- [390:16]
De
And I don't think that anyone, if you still are like, oh well, there's this ideological commitment I have or no, no, you're just, you're just wrong. Okay. The, the, the Pakistanis and Indians who have moved into, into the uk they want to live in a better and more prosperous place than they're capable of building for themselves. Just like all the Arabs who have moved into Europe. Just like all the blacks who've moved, African blacks who moved.
- [390:48]
Jose
Zero ideology behind that, man.
- [390:49]
De
Yeah, they want PlayStation and Buffalo Wild wings and thanks to, you know, Jews, every single one of these people has seen white women naked and they prefer white women to their women, which, I mean, I can understand that, but like, they want to go where the hot blondes and redheads are because they had this idea that from all the, you know, like, disgusting, weird shit that they've watched that, that somehow like a blonde and a redhead are going to fall into their lap the second they come to America. And like, it's not going to happen because those women know just how valuable they are and they don't throw themselves, mostly don't throw themselves away on that sort of thing. But let's just, let's just be honest about the way the world actually works. And most people, especially most conservative people,
- [391:44]
Pete
they.
- [391:44]
De
They're wedded to the previous conception because they trust institutions. And if we have a project, it is getting these people to understand that the institutions have been subverted. And you need to think for yourself because the institutions lie to you. And you will be sitting there in your home in Silicog, Alabama, and five Haitians will bust through your front door and beat you to death. And you'll. But we're a nation of immigrants
- [392:26]
Stormy
as
- [392:26]
De
they smash your face with a baseball bat. And you might get one or two with a shotgun, but there's five of them or 10 of them or 20 of them or 50 of them. And at some point, all your ars and full giggle switch doesn't mean anything because there's enough of them and few enough of you that you're just going to get your lunch taken. And that's the cold, hard facts of the matter. And what do they want? They just want. They want to live in a place that's not filled with trash. In six months, it'll be filled with trash, but they'll just move on down the road to where there's no trash. Yep, you can see it. There's the Google earth, you know, 2008, nice single family row homes, small. And then blacks move in and it's trashed and destroyed 15 years later. They don't, they don't care about the future because them in 20 minutes is a whole different person. They have no conception of the future. There's only the eternal present. Whether that's black Americans or black Haitians or blacks from Botswana or blacks from Kenya. They don't care. Ryan Seacrest here. Every great barbecue has one secret ingredient.
- [393:51]
Pete
Patience.
- [393:52]
De
You're doing little, then you wait a little. And while your dinner does its thing,
- [393:57]
Jose
you got a few minutes to yourself, right?
- [393:58]
De
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Pete
I'm hungry.
- [394:19]
De
Give me food. I'm sleepy. I'm going to just sleep. Well, dude, you're in the middle of the street. Yeah, but I'm sleepy.
- [394:30]
Pete
And we, because of the system that we have that's been designed that, that has, that we've. That has been captured. We allow it, it's allowed, it's encouraged.
- [394:42]
De
Right?
- [394:43]
Pete
It's. Yeah, it's. You can come here and you can do that. You're not expected to change at all. And yeah, we just can't live that way. Okay. A few of us, I think, I think almost all of us have a hard out in in a couple minutes. So let's start wrapping up. We can go around the. Go around the horn and anyone can give a closing closing statement and plug anything you want. Start with Jose.
- [395:16]
Jose
And again, thank you so much Pete for having me on. It was also a total delight talking with De and Charles about these subjects which I believe are the utmost importance. Because I think that for those of us who have worked directly in the political realm or have been at least in this whole so called marketplace of ideas, it does start to become tiresome after. Especially if you, especially if you've been working in this space like for more than 10 years. It becomes very tiresome after you just notice people making the same mistakes over and over. And a lot of these people are actually quite intelligent and are pretty talented. But because of the simple fact is they do not have the fundamentals down pat which is understanding the friend, enemy distinction and be willing to name the enemy in this case organized Jewry which is responsible for the overwhelming majority of the societal ills imposed on us. And I've been harping at this point for some time, but it's good that more and more people are beginning to recognize this and are slowly organizing, organizing. Now it's a question of trying to find out which are like the best vehicles for retaking back this country that has been effectively usurped by this new occupational class. That's going to be the challenge for the rest of the century in my view. But in the meantime, people can follow my work on Substack Jose Nino Unfiltered. I also have a YouTube channel now which I think might not be long for this world, especially given the content that's been coming out there. That's also it's El Nino Speaks, which you can also find on substack, Spotify and itunes. And I've done some interesting interviews lately with the great Noticer Horus, so check that out.
- [397:26]
Charles
CHARLES yeah, I'll just say a couple point very, very briefly. We were talking about the state of things in general on this program today, and we we were talking about the the failure to engage with reality. And something that I've been touching on for many years now in conversations with De because he and I are friends, IRL is the fact that we are run by women and spiritual, spiritual women. And this quote from Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness has stayed with me for many years, and I feel it's extremely apt to where we find ourselves in the west right now. And I promise you it's a brief quote, but I would like to read it to the audience. And the quote is this. It's queer how out of touch with the truth women are. They live in a world of their own, and there has never been anything like it and never can be. It is too beautiful altogether. And if they were to set it up, it would go to pieces before the first sunset. Some confounded fact we men have been living contentedly with ever since the day of creation would start up and knock the whole thing over. Thank you for having me, Pete.
- [398:49]
Pete
Of course. Always a pleasure. DE
- [398:53]
De
thank you so much, PETE It's a pleasure to be here. All of this is on purpose. The flooding, the power outages, the roads destroyed, the people drowned. The chief's responsibility of statesmanship is prevention of avoidable evils. I think that was Enoch Powell. All this was foreseeable, prudent and wise men would have seen and done the needful and prevented all of this. So ask yourself if the purpose of a system is what it does. Our system sends billions of dollars to Israel and Ukraine while Americans drown and Americans catch dysentery. And then ask yourself, is this system really for America? And I've spent my entire public career screaming about the fact that this sort of thing is happening, and I take no delight in it. But you, dear listener, you can go out and ask your friends, wait a minute. Why are we spending money we don't have, starting wars with Iran, with Israel, or in with Russia, with with China, with everybody, when there are Americans who are starving in the dark and freezing and in up to their eye, up to their armpits in flood waters? This is the point of the system it is to exploit decent, hard working Americans and to take every last bit of their sustenance and give it to other people. And that I think is an evil, evil system. And your job, if you're listening to this program, is to tell the people in your life who are good people and otherwise mistaken the truth. And if you can, I know times are hard for a lot of people. Please support Jose's substack, support Pete substack, buy Charles's books, you know, and support the people that don't lie to you. Because the biggest problem we have in this country isn't zog, it isn't unruly minorities. All of that could be solved overnight if the average white man understood the truth from good sources of information. So please support those people that are going to tell the truth and not lie to you. And thank you very much for having me, Pete.
- [401:29]
Pete
Well, I appreciate it, gentlemen. I think I've said all I need to say. I will just ask you all to stay in the room. Stay logged in until all of your recordings are uploaded. Thank you. We'll be back next month. Take care everyone.
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De
Sa,
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Pete
What are they selling there?
- [402:24]
Charles
Nausea medicine. Nausea treatment medicine maybe. I don't know.
- [402:31]
Stormy
I think they'd be selling.
- [402:32]
Pete
Prep that.
- [402:33]
Stormy
AIDS medication.
- [402:34]
Charles
There you go. Truvada. Is that a new Truvada ad?
- [402:42]
Pete
As somebody who has, who has owned and driven a Jaguar, I must say never again.
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Stormy
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Pete
How are you doing, gentlemen?
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Charles
Well, thank you.
- [403:09]
Stormy
Fantastic. How about yourself?
- [403:11]
Pete
Good. Well, we're waiting for De to get in here. He's having some connection issues, but. What's on your mind? Anyone got anything? Anything they want to, they want to get off, get out there and start. We'll start talking about.
- [403:28]
Stormy
Well, besides Israel spying on literally all of our phones and social media accounts. Yeah, I'm pretty annoyed about that. I just saw that on the timeline.
- [403:42]
Pete
Yeah, I saw that. There was an. That. That was them basically saying that they are going to combat anti Semitism at the personal level. So your phones and this is not your country.
- [403:57]
Stormy
You don't live here.
- [403:59]
Pete
I mean, it's becoming more and more apparent that they just can't be American. They can't be anything other than what they are.
- [404:10]
Stormy
A nation within a nation, as Queen Victoria described.
- [404:16]
Pete
Yeah, even Stalin said Stalin didn't persecute them until they became their own nation. When in after 1948. It was like, you know, Stalin at that Point had he had executed literally tons of Poles, Germans, any diaspora group that was in within the Soviet Union, he got rid of them because, you know, they could be colluding with the home country. And it wasn't until 1940, you know, 1947, 1940, 48, that. Yeah, as soon as Israel, as soon as Israel came into existence, that was when he started going after them. The whole idea, the whole thing in the, late, in the late 1930s when he was targeting some of his highest, highest generals, I mean, they just got in the way. It wasn't like he was targeting them because they were Jewish. He was targeting them because he was just targeting every. Everyone, just anyone.
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Stormy
Whole power.
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Charles
Well, not only that wasn't the, the tremendous preponderance of the party, the Communist Party at that time, especially the mid and upper tier echelons. Weren't they vastly majority Jewish? I seem to recall reading that.
- [405:36]
Pete
Well, the power, bro, 75%. Yeah, yeah. And we're talking, we're not talking about like every part party member, but we're talking about leadership, especially in the, the check, the Cheka and kvd.
- [405:50]
Charles
Right. Well, I mean that's the first step to really controlling any kind of authoritarian.
- [405:57]
Stormy
Go ahead, Charles.
- [405:58]
Charles
I was just saying. Well, especially in the checker. That makes perfect sense because if I want to run a police department, the first thing I do is get my, my fingers in the internal affairs pie and then I just find a way to purge all the guys that don't work the way I want them to work. Whatever reason, whether it be valid or specious, I just start cleaning house and then putting my guys in. It's really not that tough. All you just have to do is don't be high, trust, just. And you just have to be very ruthless. So it doesn't surprise me that they're over, over represented in the check. Not, not even minutely surprised by that fact.
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Stormy
Well, I actually believe I was led to believe that the doctor's plot was bullshit.
- [406:37]
Jose
Right.
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Stormy
It was just Stalin being paranoid. But when you look at what happened to Robert and John Kennedy, when you look at what happened to John Forestall, a American hero, probably one of the greatest statesmen save John Foster Dulles that America has ever produced, at least in the last 150 years, that all, you know, met with very suspicious ends. I wouldn't be surprised if the doctor's plot was legit.
- [407:06]
Charles
Yeah. So much else of what we were
- [407:08]
Stormy
told, we did have somebody waiting in the wings.
- [407:13]
Pete
Go ahead, Charles.
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Charles
Oh, I was just saying, I said so much else what we've been told has been a lie. Why wouldn't that be as well? I mean, at this point, who knows what to believe?
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Pete
Well, let's. Let's bring this a little more current. What do we believe about Matt Gates stepping aside? Because it seems like he did it on its own. On his own. So, you know, this is probably the. The most intriguing thing that has happened in this post election insanity.
- [407:50]
Stormy
The Matt Gates thing is really interesting, to be honest with you. So the thing about. The thing about Gates is I'm trying to think of who did that. Really good thread. I want to give her credit. Your name, the account was Mel something.
- [408:08]
Pete
Yeah.
- [408:09]
Stormy
All right. And a lot of the names there is probably one of the best threads that ever came out on Twitter. I mean, full stop, like, legit, incredibly well researched, super long. And one of our friends in that chat that we have, Pete, I guess, got with Ryan Dawson and got some additional information regarding some of the names in the early Matt Gaetz affair. And funny enough, surprise, surprise, it's Russian oligarchs, quote, unquote, that kind of had to flit. Had to flee from Putin, which, you know, where he flee to Israel. And last I checked, you, I can't. I can't flee to Israel. But this particular oligarch that backed that, that basically had. I mean, correct me if I'm out of line, Pete, but had people in the doj, at least two, to get him fake documents, including the one that he gave the girl that I believe he intentionally set Matt Gates up with.
- [409:21]
Pete
It wasn't even anything that nefarious. The position he had within the government locally down there, he could issue driver's licenses.
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Stormy
Oh, yeah, I never even thought about that. He has a Florida id. If Gates wanted to, he could have done it. But the oligarch in question has ties to Natty Rothschild, Nathan Rothschild, as most of the oligarchs do. This is why Putin purged them. What people don't understand about a lot of these oligarchs. Have you ever wondered why guys like Eric Kolamoyski, right, run around and, you know, literally, like Igor Kolamoiski, his spending habits are identical to, I don't know, like, Rick Ross. Like, he's just tons of jewelry. Tons of jewelry, tons of exotic cars, yachts, pictures. Like just literally duffel bags and duffel bags of cash. Like, why are you a billionaire owner of both the only energy pipeline in your country, the only really media corporation in your country, as well as the nationalized bank, right? A person that owns a Realist, Like a person that owns all this doesn't
- [410:52]
De
act like a drug dealer, right?
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Stormy
Doesn't act like some black. Like this is behavior that you would see from like a crack dealer. So it's really confusing. Why is this motherfucker shoving cash anywhere he could? And why is also Igor Kolomoisky, like the guy who was the original funder and 30% shareholder of MC Squared Modeling. The other shareholders were one Jean Luc Brunel may sound familiar. The next one will really sound familiar familiar. And the other shareholder was Jeffrey Epstein, right? John, you know, Igor Kolamoiski is Jeffrey Epstein's kid, Pipeline from Ukraine. Why is this also dealing drugs? Right? Elon Musk doesn't have to deal drugs. Elon Musk doesn't have to child sex workers or, sorry, traffic sex workers, right? This is gangster shit. And billionaires don't have to do gangster shit. Because I mean, if you have a billion dollars that's earning $100 million a year just in carried interest, right, that's just, that's reasonably invested without taking too much risk, right? Elon Musk doesn't have to sell drugs because he's a fucking billionaire. So how are you, in one hand, a billionaire and also spending and acting like a fucking drug dealer? Well, it's because it's not his money, right? So the fact that this oligarch that is, you know, tied up in this Matt Gaetz blackmail attempt, has direct investment, right, basically been directly invested into by Natty Rothschild is suspicious as. And the reason it's suspicious is because when Putin purged all the oligarchs, right before they all fled to city of London and Israel, one of them accidentally died, right? And it was a big scandal in Russia, right, Because like, you know, generally when a billionaire has a helicopter accident, nobody's really that surprised, right? It's not like shocking, but it came out when they were trying to settle this dude's estate state. It was like literally national scandal that his bank accounts and his yachts and his properties or whatever, they were willed to his family, his wife and his three children, which, you know, would be perfectly normal. But the state, the massive nickel mine and manganese mine, which you need to make steel. So actually the real assets, like the real goods that made this guy so rich.
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Charles
Yeah, I was just.
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Stormy
They were willed to an unnamed party and this was like a huge flip out because you can't legally do that. The Soviets and the Russians post Soviet Union are still very bureaucratic. Like they need all the paperwork, you know, crossed and dotted and all the like, you know, everybody thinks that like in Vladimir's Putin Russia you can just like wave your hand like, oh, don't worry about that comrade. Like, no, like they are the most paperwork obsessed society ever. It's like a hangover from communist times. So this was a huge deal. It ended up coming out that that unnamed party was Natty Rothschild's dad, Jakob. Right. And what these billionaires actually are, are the same thing, thing that a lot of our billionaires are. They're fleshy looking, pink, human shaped bank accounts for somebody else. Right. They're a human shaped safety deposit box to hold assets for someone else. And they get to be a billionaire, they get to look like a billionaire, do all the billionaire shit. But they're basically a placeholder for a generation, right? You are a 60 year safety deposit box for these natural resource assets. And that's what this guy was doing. And now somehow this guy is tied up in the blackmail and extortion attempt of Matt Gates. Like, what the is going on here?
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Pete
Well, I mean, I think it's pretty simplistically. You could look at it and you go, okay, Matt Gates father is somebody who was in the healthcare industry and Florida, Florida, he started a health system, I think it was up in, up in the Jacksonville area. And he sold it for I think like half a billion dollars. Matt Gaetz doesn't need money, so not
- [415:27]
Stormy
at all his grandkids won't need money, right?
- [415:32]
Pete
So, so a pack coming to Matt and being like, hey, you know, here's this, he's go away. So how, how, what's the way they get you? It's always going to be sex. I'm assuming at this point a pack is nothing when they walk into someone's office. You know, Massey said it, they all, they all have a babysitter. I don't think that babysitter is showing up with checks. I think he's showing up with a thumb drive or even an old school folder, analog pictures and saying, here are the pictures we have of you doing X, Y and Z. You're gonna do whatever we want. And that's. So they had to find a way to try to get Gates. And from everything that Mel, who goes by Village Crazy lady on Twitter, it's
- [416:26]
Stormy
an appropriate, appropriate account name.
- [416:29]
Pete
It's so good. It's such a good name too. From everything that's in that. And what's funny is what's being reported basically backs up everything he said when he was on Tucker three years ago. When he went on Tucker, told This whole story. And people were like, okay, he's on drugs, he's lost his mind, he's paranoid, he's insane. And you know, it all matches up. And how does it start? It starts with a tax collector for from Florida. Name Joel Greenberg. And who is, and who is Joel Greenberg? He's a classic rich kid who dinks through life lighting fires everyone else is forced to put out. Now, village crazy lady isn't going to tell you what that means. What those lighting fires means. Lighting fires means is he is getting people into compromising position and that is his job. And the job is he's doing it for somebody else. Because you can see he's one of those people just like you were describing, who, you know, gets involved with drugs here, selling, selling IDs there and everything. He's not dealing with his own money. It's obvious.
- [417:47]
Stormy
Yeah, you're not making any fucking money selling fake id, bro. Like there's a reason why they had to outsource that to China and kids have to like buy it on Tor browser. There's a reason for that because ain't no money in it.
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Pete
He's done a crypto scam, tax collect. As a tax collector, money has gone missing. I mean this guy's. I don't know what this guy's doing.
- [418:12]
Stormy
I think it's interesting, but he's not in jail.
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Charles
I think it's interesting the way all of this ties together. You mentioned Stormy a little while ago, you mentioned James Forrestal and that that really dovetails nicely with the Matt Getz three years ago. Everybody thinks he's crazy. Yeah, well, they thought Forrestal was crazy too. That's why they put him in the hospital, if I recall correctly. So I think that's interesting. There's so much of this dovetails and, and me being just a natural investigator, I like how all of this ties to together because as I believe I've said on your program previously, Pete, the truth is a puzzle that assembles itself. If you're really doing your job as an investigator, you don't need line. Thank you. You don't need to make things up. All you have to do is pay attention and let the truth tell itself. Let the truth be a puzzle that assembles itself. And I think it's interesting the forestall similarity with gets or the get similarity to forestall, whichever you prefer, however you choose to look at it. The other thing I find interesting is what you were also saying Stormy, regarding the sex trafficking and how that links to what Pete was saying where sex is actually what gets people in. In the intelligence trade and in the. In the intelligence community. That term is a honey pot. That's what they call it when you're trying to snag somebody.
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Stormy
Use a high as honey potable as any other man.
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Charles
Exactly correct. And I think there's a reason that you find all these sex traffic, sex trafficking organizations behind this. Because as you gentlemen were saying moments ago, these. Most of these men these days don't need money. They're wealthier than. Than pharaohs of old. They don't need money, but they still have base human urges. And now that they are both rich and shameless and amoral and religious and completely absent religious religiosity, then they're just. They're going to satisfy whatever sick predilections they have, whatever dark whim that crosses their mind. So that. And enter sex trafficking. We will bring you whatever you want to. And I'll try and keep my words relatively clean here. Whatever you want to fornicate with, we will bring you. And then we will let the world know if you don't stay in line that you are fornicating with. With X, Y and Z. I'd prefer to not paint too clear a picture here. I'll let you gentlemen in the audience fill in the blank.
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Stormy
That's what the Jaguar commercials are for, right? Well said.
- [420:34]
Charles
Very well said.
- [420:35]
Stormy
That's what the Jaguar commercials are for.
- [420:37]
Charles
Very well said. So what I. What I also find interesting, again, just to keep these threads moving, I also find interesting. You have that angle, the sex trafficking. And then we go back to again, something else. You mentioned Stormy, with the whole. Why does this man have money? Well, because he's a safety, A skin and bone safety deposit box. Somebody else. The real wealth creation, the real true assets. And I don't have to explain this to you, Stormy. You've got more money than I. Than I have and probably ever will. But the real asset creation, they hold on to because they know that's where the real wealth is. They know that's what. Where the real wealth is. So they hold on to that. And I also find that interesting when I draw the line from that collateral.
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Pete
Correct?
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Charles
And then when I draw that, draw that line to Hollywood, where we'll give you whatever you want, whatever you like, we'll give you. You can have a. You can have a go platinum album, you can have a phenomenal film career, whatever you want. But at the end of the day, you exist at our whim. Just like that billionaire you mentioned. He exists at Natty Rothschild's whim. And I would wager if you're correct, Stormy, which I suspect you are a preponderance of billionaires really just exist at somebody else's whim.
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Stormy
That's provable. I can do the same thing with Elon Musk.
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Pete
Let's say hello.
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Stormy
I'm sorry.
- [422:05]
De
Sorry, sorry guys. Computer troubles. Of course, you know, the Windows update as soon as I need to, like, it's like they can
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Pete
anyway, I, I
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De
think I, I, I just real briefly to, to comment on that because I know Stormy and I've talked about this a little bit. Money is power, right? So a billion dollars is real power. Why would any power system allow someone to have a billion dollars and not be part of the power system that to, I mean, just thinking about it from the perspective of the reality of Elite Theory, Pete, that you've always talked about, why wouldn't the power system be like, oh, this is our man, you know, because, you know, you think about what, how much good or how much damage someone could do with a billion dollars, you just look at what George Soros has managed to do. Right. You know, and to a certain extent, you know, this is all arbitrary. If the British state had been like, you know, actually, we don't like you shorting the pound and we're going to like show up, especially back in, back then when Britain wasn't the holiday husk it is now, they could have just showed up and shot the guy. You know, like MI6 couldn't, it couldn't have. MI5 couldn't have found George Soros and like, nope, you're not looting our country.
- [423:30]
Stormy
Yeah. You're trying to destroy our currency on purpose and publicly.
- [423:34]
Pete
Right.
- [423:35]
De
You know, and so why wouldn't this idea of, of like a billionaire who's in effectively part of the power system, why is that shocking or even, why is that even surprising
- [423:51]
Stormy
now? They, they represent a public display of wealth. Right? So who, who do we not see is the question.
- [424:00]
De
Right, Right.
- [424:02]
Stormy
We're allowed to see George Soros. I know who George Soros. I know who Backstorge Soros. Right. George Soros's first hedge fund was the Quantum Fund.
- [424:13]
Tyler Redick
Right.
- [424:14]
Stormy
I, I, I see. I still think that's the name of his fund. So with a hedge fund, there's the LP and then there's the gp. Right? So in vc, we take a little, we have a lot more skin in the game, right? So we'll have, you know, 20% of the pot be our capital. Right. The general partners, like the guy that's managing the fund. And the other 80% is outside investor money. All right, so we manage it, they invest it, or, sorry, they invest it into the pot. We then in turn allocate that to specific investments. Hedge funds are different. It's like 98 and 2%. Right. So 98%.
- [425:01]
De
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Tyler Redick
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De
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Stormy
by Trumpa Casino LP 2% GP. So that means in George Soros's Quantum Fund, only 2% of that money is actually George Soros's money. And 98% is outside investor money. And George Soros only had one outside investor. Right? So that means George Source's Quantum fund is 98% someone else's. Right? So even how George Soros made his money being a hedge fund manager, someone staked him. Somebody gave him all of the money, and he put up a little 2% of his own and. Funny.
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Charles
Right?
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Jose
Well.
- [425:54]
De
And that's the same thing.
- [425:55]
Pete
Jeffrey Epson.
- [425:57]
De
It's the same person.
- [425:58]
Stormy
It's Natty Rothchild.
- [426:01]
De
Right. It's. Well, and. And, you know, Jeffrey Epstein didn't have any of his own money. It was all Lex Wexner's money.
- [426:07]
Pete
Right.
- [426:07]
De
Y. I mean, or whoever. You know, like, I. I don't know if we'll ever find any of this stuff out. But, you know, money is power, and the power system kind of, to a certain extent, allocates who has money. What's shocking about that?
- [426:25]
Pete
So let's. Let's do this. Okay. Because this is something we were talking about earlier. I believe this is from the Jerusalem Post. Let me share this and play this. So, you know, you talk about. We were talking about how, you know, Gates has all the money in the world, so you have to get them with sex. And in order to do that, there has to be some kind of surveillance. Well, see what they have going on here. Let's see what they admit to openly
- [426:57]
De
bring up a whole lot of fear just to be public in their own communities.
- [427:00]
Pete
What does Israel do to support Diaspora
- [427:03]
De
Jews who perhaps feel alone, kind of isolated?
- [427:09]
Pete
So, first and foremost, the new war room that we have established in the Ministry of Diaspora is a significant tool to combat anti Semitism. We launched it about two months ago. And this is a new tool that is Very, very powerful in terms of the systems that allow us to monitor basically every social network that exists and to provide us with details, sometimes details that prevent terror attacks against Jewish communities and also dealers that allow us to monitor the level of anti Semitism in various states, the engines of antisemitism. Who are the profiles, who are the people who are leading, whether it's it is politicians or influencers or organizations who is spreading antisemitism. And we have also results coming from these reports. One of the most important results recently we have Canada and the U.S. banning Samidoon activity in both Canada and the U.S. samydoun is a pro Palestinian organization who was orchestrating mainly in Canada, huge demonstrations and also a lot of cultural and educational activities against the Jewish community against State of Israel. Pro Hamas, pro. October 7th. And this is actually a branch of the PFLP terror organization. And it was proven, and therefore this organization has been banned in both Canada and the US and one of the reasons for this event is that we've published reports and we shared our reports with the governments both in Canada and in the US and it helps to pressure and eventually also to end the activity of this organization. And we are doing the same with other organizations such as sjp that is now cannot function in campuses, but it's still a legal organization and there are legal procedures that are being held currently. And we hope that we can prove the linkage between SJP and Hamas. These kind of reports, these kinds of work is very, very important. It takes a lot of time to prove it, to bring all the information. But this is a significant activity that comes from the research department that we have in the office and from the war room that allow us to monitor basically everything that goes on in terms of OC open source intelligence.
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Tyler Redick
Right.
- [429:54]
Pete
So. So, I mean, these are so
- [429:59]
Charles
dibs on the name engines of anti Semitism.
- [430:01]
De
Hello, Assad agent who's. Hello, Mossad agent who's assigned to listen to this program? First of all, who brought all the immigrants to Canada in the first place? Who brought all the immigrants to the United States in the first place?
- [430:15]
Charles
Who's.
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De
Who's responsible for all the immigrants in Europe? You know, heart seller. There was all this. You talked about it on Tim Kelly's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and Pete, you talked about this with, with Tim Kelly Reese on recent program like who's responsible for the immigration in Europe that caused the quote unquote, pogrom in Amsterdam where they were, you know, during a moment of silence for people who died in Floods. They were shouting and screaming you know in public and then starting fights and tearing down flags and then you know, then, then they cry out as they like why are they hitting us? Right? This is like you just confirmed everything every anti Semite's ever said and they have no, no self awareness to be like oh maybe this is why people hate us. It's astonishing. If, if I, if I said, you know Donald Trump, I think you should have a ministry of White Boy affairs cracker Diaspora, right? Like, like as the, as, as an American and we should, we should interfere in the domestic politics of Australia and New Zealand and Canada and in Europe because there's, there's white boys in those countries and, and we're the, we're the government, you know of white people. So we, we get to, you know, we get to pressure the Australian government that they're, they're mistreating Jake present. So they have to right now I'd be okay with us doing that. But these Jews, right, they're saying where the government of all Jews everywhere. Oh, so your American Jews don't owe any loyalty to the United States and can't be trusted. Thanks for the heads up. You can't be trusted because you're going to interfere in our domestic affairs. Okay, no, no, that's not what we meant.
- [432:18]
Pete
So this, on November 14th and this article has disappeared from their website. The Intermountain Jewish News which just happens to, to be one of the oldest Jewish newspapers in the United States had a editorial was by the editorial staff and it said Europe's payback for the Holocaust. And the one piece that I got from this was it says is the beginning of it says Shimon Felder was right. Permit us to introduce Shimon Felder. The ign that's the mountain Jewish News wrote and published a profile on him in 2001. He was one of the very few child survivors of birth Morgan Velsmann Bibarak and one of the many Holocaust survivors the IJN has profiled over the years. Felder's story was different in that his mother, father, sister and grandmother survived. I swear German efficiency is a myth. Perhaps for that reason or because of an innate goodness or because he was a world traveler, linguist and astute observer. Felder commented, quoting Felder, Europe's punishment for the Holocaust is the destruction of its culture. The fact that radical Islam is taking over the continent. And what this basically the, what the article went on to do was it went on to say well you know, because of what we did, because of it becoming overwhelmingly because the Muslims have taken over there. That's why we got Pogrom in Amsterdam. They were actually self aware. That's probably why they took this article down.
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Jose
Out of all the shit that they
- [434:01]
De
put in print, that's what they take down.
- [434:07]
Pete
I had it bookmarked and I went back and I got a 404 and I tried to search their website and it's called Gone. I. I'm hoping that somebody, you know, somebody put that on, put that on archive so we can look that up again.
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De
Yeah, man, I've told you about my favorite game, right, Pete. The, the Daily Forwarder, Daily Stormer.
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Charles
Oh yeah,
- [434:36]
Pete
tell everybody.
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De
Well, so you take an article dealing with this particular subject and you cover up, you send it to a friend to just text and you say, is this Daily Forward or is this the, is this the Daily Forward side of the ledger or the Daily Stormer side of the ledger? And about half the time I get it wrong, you know, like, because, because they're so, so right. So you're saying IGN and I, I have their. A brief history. The IGN up here, right, it's all pale of settlement. Diaspora people, right, that because the Dutch endured occupation at the hands of the National Socialists, we can debate, you know, whatever they deserve. And, and many of them died in the resistance. And you know, if you believe the story of Corey 10. Boom. And right, the, the Franks that were hidden and all. Just taking your version of events completely seriously. Yeah. Thousands of Dutch people fought to save you and you bring in many millions of Moroccans to destroy their country. And the Dutch deserve it. Or the English deserve it.
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Pete
Yeah.
- [436:07]
De
Or the Portuguese, Swedes deserve it.
- [436:09]
Pete
Yeah.
- [436:09]
Charles
Or the Portuguese. Like, aren't they all European?
- [436:13]
De
Or the Spaniards. Yeah.
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Charles
Like what, all of Europe?
- [436:16]
De
I don't understand all of these countries,
- [436:20]
Stormy
right?
- [436:21]
De
The Russians deserve it. You know, what is this? It's like, oh, no, no, no, you're not being honest at all. You're just hostile. You just. And you know, to be fair to them, here I am, right? Everyone feels that way. Like, you know, the, the, I'm sure you've seen it. The, the, you know, Indian, Pakistani diaspora now owns. Owns more land in London than native Brits. You see all these, you know, and they're all, they're all celebrating. Oh yeah, yeah. And they're celebrating. And they're celebrating. You know, look, look at this is what colonization feels like. And, or, or, you know, like, oh, well, we're wealthier than white Americans. Like, well, maybe because white America, you're here stealing from us, right? And this is of. Why these people are so hostile to Donald Trump is because he said he. He's not even, you know, promising, you know, blood and iron the way some people might have, you know, 100 years ago. He's just like, can you stop taking ruthless advantage of people? And they're like, oh, God, this is the worst thing ever. This is the new Hitler.
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Pete
Okay.
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De
You said it, not me. Okay, I'm just gonna believe you when you say you hate the Dutch,
- [437:51]
Pete
even
- [437:51]
De
though the Dutch did nothing but help you.
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Tyler Redick
The.
- [438:00]
De
You know, the Dutch have been one of the most violent Semitic countries in Europe for hundreds of years.
- [438:07]
Pete
Yeah.
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Stormy
How come. How come Abe Foxman has that. A chart on his wall that tracks the. The white birth rate? Or was it the percentage of the U. S. Population? That is. That's not.
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Charles
That's.
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Pete
That's not Abe Foxman. Who is that? De. Do you remember his name? The guy at the. I think he's at the ACLU who tracks the. Or the Southern poverty law center.
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Charles
Yeah, it's splc is. Yeah.
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Pete
The split. Not Abe Fox. It's not Abe Foxman. I know who you're. But that's a good guess because Abe Foxman is also somebody who is an absolute ingrate in that he was taken in by a Christian family and protected and hates them.
- [438:54]
De
It was. Who was it at splc? I want to say Mark. Mark Potok.
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Tyler Redick
Yep.
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Pete
Puts up. That's him.
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Stormy
Yep.
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Pete
Yeah. Just.
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Charles
And he.
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Pete
I mean, Why. Why. Why is he tracking. And why is he celebrating white replacement in the United States? Why. What did white people ever do to him?
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De
Why is this newspaper that's like, in Denver, right.
- [439:32]
Pete
Since 1918, you know, like, in Denver. Why are.
- [439:37]
De
Why are they deeply, deeply concerned with Amsterdam?
- [439:42]
Pete
Right.
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De
Well, the answer, of course, is right now, the second I care about, you know, some. Something happened going on in Europe, then all of a sudden I'm like an imperialist bigot who needs to be, you know, like, I can't. I can't have anything that I want. You most certainly can't have a country
- [440:04]
Stormy
and your kids can't go to a high school or college where they all look like them.
- [440:08]
De
You can't have that, Pete. But. But they can have their own privates.
- [440:13]
Charles
Pete, to address what you said. Why that you're. To address your question. Why. Why does he think like this? All the Christian family that adopted him, you know, helped him and did. Did good things for him.
- [440:24]
Pete
Why?
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Charles
Well, this goes back to something that I. I've been telling d. You know, on. On the side for how long has it been now? D. Five years, eight years? Something like that. And I've mentioned it on this program as well. It's just, it's just a spiritual femininity. These people are just spiritual, spiritually feminine. And it's the female loathing of quote, unquote, weakness and, and the misinterpretation of kindness as weakness. And that's what it is. He just loathes people that appear to be weak. It's the same thing that Sasha Baron Cohen does. He finds good natured people and he abuses them and he mocks them because he thinks they're weak. Because these people are sick and they are spiritually feminine and they do not understand, understand that kindness is not necessarily weakness, but they believe the two are the same, which is why Sasha Barron's Cohen's whole routine is to just. Is to destroy people's kindness is to mock it, to belittle it, to say that it's stupidity. And you're a rube if you trust people. And that's what it is. It's. That's why they all live in low trust too, because that's their attitude and that's why, that's the, the answer to why as far as I perceive the world.
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Pete
Yeah.
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Stormy
There is literally nothing that a woman hates more than a weak man.
- [441:42]
Charles
Bingo.
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Stormy
The. You know, they will actually go out of their way to destroy a man that they think is weak.
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Pete
The resentment, you know, I forget who said it. It was maybe Greg Hood said this years ago or maybe you said a D was. There should be statues all throughout Israel to Americans and Frenchmen and Englishmen and anyone who fought on the allied side. There should be statues erected saying they should be paying for statues in this country to be erected to remember, you know, what they did for what. What the white world did, what white Europeans did to help save them, to help them establish their own country. But we get statue of one, we get, we get spied upon. We get anti. If you question anything, it's anti Semitism. What were you going to say, Stormy?
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Stormy
I said there is, there is a statue. There is one statue, James Jesus Angleton, overlooking a park named after John F. Kennedy. They are not without a sense of humor.
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De
Oh, that's disgusting in a terrible sort of way. Well, right. And it's, it's American money that saved him in the Second World War, you know, 53 of Soviet aircraft, most of them are. Most of our ammunition production actually went to Russians. There was so much material going up through Iran and Iraq over the Caucasus that it was 40. 40 divisions. Yeah.
- [443:38]
Pete
Why are American factories manufacturing 760, 62 by 54?
- [443:44]
De
Like, 54 rim. Like, that's not even like. Like, sir. 762. Yeah, we use that. Not the rimmed stuff, though. And this is the. This is what Americans don't know, Right. They think that, like, the whole war was fought, you know, Band of Brothers style or whatever, and
- [444:08]
Pete
that.
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De
That. But also, you know, you'll get certain people that. That, you know, Stalin himself said that if it weren't for American production, that they would have lost the war. And, of course, they would have, you know, 10, 10,000 aircraft flew from Great Falls, Montana, all the way through Canada, across Alaska, across Siberia, and onto the Eastern Front. And actually further than that, because the factories were in Iowa, Buffalo, New York, Seattle, Washington, and Southern California, because those are the places with the cheapest electrical power in the world in the country at the time. And the production of aluminum for the airplanes required massive amounts of electricity.
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Pete
So
- [444:52]
De
the fact of the matter is that instead of being grateful, they've shown for 50 years, right, or 80 years that they're. They. They just don't. They. There should have been statues to the doughboys. There should have been statues to the, you know, Red army soldiers.
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Pete
If.
- [445:13]
De
If what they say is actually true is true. And then even today, how many millions of billions of dollars have we given them in grants and loans to get forgiven? You know, how much of our ammunition production is getting sent over there right now? Why are we courting terrorism in our country? Because every. Every Palestinian knows that those are American bombs that were made with American tax dollars and they're only being shot by Israelis. If I, If. If Stormy and Charles are in a knife fight and I. I throw Charles a sword, and then somehow Stormy wins, and then he's pissed at me. I'm like, well, what do you mean? I. I wasn't in the fight like you. You handed the guy who was stabbing me a gun. You know, what are you talking about? You weren't involved in the fight. And this, you know, and this can be just demonstrated over and over and over again, which is why their total information control is so necessary. Because the second the average American figures this stuff out, they're doomed. That's why they have that, you know, bring it back around to the thing the, The.
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Charles
You.
- [446:31]
De
You know, the clip from Jerusalem Post television you showed. That's why they have to manage all this stuff. That's why the IGN in Denver has to care about stuff that happened in Amsterdam.
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Charles
Yeah. That makes Sense this is once what. Because once that goes back to what I've also said on this program previously, that threat, the thread on the sweater, once the American public starts pulling at that thread, the whole thing's going to come unraveled. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but it will. And it's just not going to stop because you can't put it back together. It doesn't work.
- [447:07]
Pete
Work that way.
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Charles
It does not work that way.
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Stormy
Yeah, how does this really end, guys? What is your opinions on that? Because we got to be like, I don't, I don't know to, to, to the, to the previous point. Like what does this look like when this unravels? Because I think we're really getting close, close to it. Like random strangers at the grocery store want to have conversations that I, when I first got into this, like would, you know, feel nervous about not, you know, putting on my regular phone and going, getting a burner phone. Like now like 30, 40 year old ladies at Fresh Market. You know, the guy behind the counter is talking to me about this. Like the guy cutting my, you know, my beef is talking about this.
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Pete
Well, not only that, not only that, Stormy. But I mean, I don't know if you want to, you know, if you want to talk about this, but you know also people that you know who have generous means are asking questions about this stuff.
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Stormy
Bro, I have, oh man, now you're definitely going to get Mossad on my phone. I'm on a list already. But yeah, you have like hedge fund managers emailing me at like one in the morning telling go, tell me. Like I'm the guy that's known as like the guy that knows the weird shit.
- [448:39]
Tyler Redick
Right?
- [448:40]
Stormy
Well, you know, I was. Now everybody knows the weird shit. But like guys that manage billions of dollars have sent me emails at 1 o' clock in the morning saying tell me what you know about the USS Liberty. Be like, well that's going to take a while. How much time do you have? Yeah, and I get a like a three word response. I've got time. Like, well it's 1:30 in the morning. Like I'm glad you have time. But yeah, a lot of people up and down the income ladder and they're pissed.
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Charles
Well, I think, I think a lot of people are pissed and they're asking questions and I, I'm not going to say the two are entirely unrelated because I think it would be disingenuous to say that. But I don't think it's necessarily related to income. I don't think it's necessarily related to asset possession. I think it's more what type of mind does the individual have? And I can't tell you, I'm not God, I'm not Nostradamus. I can't tell you where exactly this is going to end. But I am good at putting threads together. And I can tell you where I see the chips slowly falling, where I see the breadcrumbs slowly being dropped. I think you're going to see more and more of this across the spectrum, the income spectrum. Now, I think you may, you may collect towards the higher middle or lower upper than other places, but I don't want to get lost in the weeds. I think you're going to see it across the spectrum. You're going to see this natural human curiosity, or should I say, I hate. Let me step back a bit. I hate the ever mentioning the human condition. You're going to see this natural European inquisitiveness of saying, hey, I found this, and this is slightly mysterious or slightly unknown. Explain this to me. Tell me how this works. Tell me what this is. Especially when you're dealing with Americans in the sense of the larger culture. That larger culture being very, shall we say, personally ambitious, in the sense of, you know, individualistic, but also ambitious. I want to solve something, I want to learn something, I want to build something, I want to get something, I want to achieve something, trophy, whatever, higher wealth, whatever. And I think you're going to see that those people are going to start asking more and more, more questions, and then that's going to have a snowball effect into the larger world as certain people start asking more questions. And since these are the people that, again, I'm speaking in broad generalities, other people look up to, it's going to trickle down to the other people. Now, where that ends, again, I'm not God. I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball. I couldn't tell you. But I. I certainly can tell you that the path is going to lead us down a road that you would have just 10 years ago, or probably even closer to five, not even imagined happening. And I think the landscape is going to change both drastically and dramatically in the next three to five years because of it. You're going to see people making much different demands than they have made in the last 100 years. Because I can tell you, I. I'm 52 now and the world I was born in doesn't exist anymore. And I suspect the world I die in will be vastly different than the one I'M even in now, I will probably have lived three to five lifetimes in one if we're talking about just the map and the territory changing and the world changing. So that's the best answer I can give you.
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Stormy
Oh, I've.
- [452:16]
De
I said for years. I've said for years. I'm gonna die in the left because I just don't think everyone else should be wiped out. As a Christian, I can't support it.
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Charles
Yeah, I think you and me are both good.
- [452:28]
Stormy
You're gonna die in a what?
- [452:29]
De
I'm gonna die in the left. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be a flaming leftist when I. I'm not going to change any of my positions. But I think by the time I'm 80 or 90 years old, being born in the late 70s, like, I. I think the world have changed so drastically and, and, you know, call it Russian disinformation, you want, but thank God for Vladimir Putin, because Russians play chess, and he saw an opportunity to hit the United States and the system where it hurt by. By supporting Bashar al Assad in Syria. And that's exactly what's led to this, right? You know, if you've. It's been a long time since I played chess, but if you're, if you, if you play it all seriously for any length of time and you get used to it, you can kind of start to see a weakness on the board. And if you get like a queen or a rook in their back and you just start, you know, one piece, two pieces, three pieces, four pieces, you know, and then they finally take you out, right? But you've just blown a hole in their entire game, right? Well, what Vladimir Putin did, and, and thank God he's not one of these crazy people like our State Department, because otherwise you'd be in the middle of a nuclear war right now. But he saw where the weakness was of the system. And by supporting Assad in Syria, I think that's exactly where things led to today.
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Stormy
And
- [454:03]
De
it. By never being able to live with other people, right? You're gonna. You're gonna force the Egyptians, the Jordanians, the Iraqis, the Saudis, even probably to have to go to war with you, Israel, if you keep trying to kill people with. Oh, excuse me, with all of your neighbors, right? You're killing people in Syria, Iraq.
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Stormy
Yeah, it's five countries.
- [454:32]
De
Lebanon, Iran, Gaza, west, the West Bank, Egypt, Egypt. Like you are. You are killing people.
- [454:48]
Pete
You are.
- [454:49]
De
You were provoking wars with literally all of your neighbors, and then we don't have it Anymore we don't have the machinists. And I know because I, I used to work with a lot of these guys who'd been machinists in the 50s, 60s and 70s. I know that, you know, you're a Jerusalem Post reporter and so you have no idea what it's like to get
- [455:14]
Pete
a part
- [455:17]
De
that has to be, has to be to the thousandth of an inch or it doesn't work. But let me tell you, that guy might not have gone to college, but he's a genius. That guy can work a lathe. Like you've never like a, like some violinist work a Stradivarius. And those guys, they all had kids and you convinced all their kids to go into gender studies or convince them not to have kids or took away their job. And now we don't have the skills because that guy retired and there was no, no word for him to pass the skills on to. And so this knowledge dies with him.
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Charles
I worry about that, this.
- [456:04]
Stormy
But also, like, is there a job that a white kid can't learn in a year? Like just, I'm thinking about like just the autistic kids that are on our side. Like just the guys that are in the comments section of every single thing that we do.
- [456:17]
Charles
Right?
- [456:18]
Stormy
Like these, these guys have like level nine autism.
- [456:23]
De
They probably could learn almost anything in two or three years. Yeah, but, but they've not given the opportunities. Remember, you know, the Fortune 500 hired 94% non white men, right?
- [456:36]
Stormy
Huh.
- [456:38]
De
So where, where are these jobs for these guys? They don't exist.
- [456:42]
Charles
Well, I would also say too, they've
- [456:44]
De
been deliberately frozen out.
- [456:45]
Charles
And so to address your point, D and to also kind of dovetail in Stormy's point, I. One of the things that America did well, and I think this is often overlooked by people and I, I will freely confess that I was one of these people that overlooked it until the last year, year and a half, absolute top. So that's half a century. Even I overlooked it. One of the things America did very, very well throughout its history. And I'm not going to even presume to know why or guess why, but it did and that was it. Recognized.
- [457:19]
De
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Tyler Redick
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De
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Charles
by Chumpa Casino and promoted talent extremely well. Look at the 1930s, the 1940s. I believe I've mentioned this on the program before. And I've definitely given a nod to Thomas Triple Seven about this as well. Because I recall Thomas Triple Seven saying, like, in an intelligent country, you wouldn't be sending. First off, you wouldn't have the corporations running amok like they are now. But you would be taking all your brightest people. Like America did very, very well, recognizing talent. You'd be taking these as. As Stormy says, I'm not really a big fan of this term, but I'll use it in the shorthand that I believe he. He intends it to be these autistic white kids and just grabbing them and going, okay, you're going to mit. Yeah, but I'm from, like, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And I've only worn shoes three times in my life. And two twice were at funerals because we're just so poor. It's like, yeah, but we can tell you're smart. We can tell you can work a lathe like a violinist, plays a Stradivarius. You know, we saw you in shop class, and they told another person, and that teacher told another person. So next year you're going to be at MIT. America did this, and it did it very well. And America also put a lot of these guys in government positions. Is to step back to what I was saying a moment ago about Thomas Triple Seven, where he was saying that a lot of your best and brightest, they shouldn't be working for private industry. They should be working for the government. They should be serving your nation. They should be serving the country. And they don't anymore. Because why? Because, like you said, D. First off, it was all the government employees went to diversity, diversity hires. And now private businesses are becoming all diversity hires. So America, what once made it great was that recognizing talent, that recognizing merit and promoting it has long since been satanically inverted. And I don't think it's a coincidence that we're seeing it all fall apart.
- [459:33]
Pete
Well, that was a very pretty Prussian kind of idea to recognize talent and pull them into the state and push them to, you know, serve their fellow men. And, you know, Prussia's been destroyed. So, you know, Prussia's been destroyed so much that in March of this year, I'm sure some. I'm sure a couple. You remember this headline? Germany adds new citizenship requirements, including knowledge of Judaism, the Holocaust in Israel, along with a vow to protect Jews. That's.
- [460:23]
Stormy
So funny.
- [460:27]
Pete
That's all also a way that, you know, that they're panicking because you don't do something like that unless you think that, oh, people are starting to realize what we. What we've done here. People are starting to. Starting to realize what our program has been and how it has not been to the advantage of the white European. You don't start passing laws like that unless people are noticing, and you start laws like that. Where do you do laws like that in the one country that you've sought to absolutely destroy more than any other?
- [461:13]
De
But I'm going to quote something that you've said, Pete, that this is an age of absolute politics, for the whole form of our life is now a function of power.
- [461:26]
Pete
That's yaki. Me quoting Yaki. Yeah, right.
- [461:29]
De
Okay, well, if you want to back off the ledge, we're. I'm not the one who's decided to play jungle ball rules, right? I'm not the one who said, okay, well, you can put concrete in your gloves and spikes and. And, you know, low blows and razor blades are okay in the boxing match. You know, this is entirely them not being able to play by a fair set of rules. And as Charles has pointed out more and more over and over and over again because they're so feminine, they can't just lose gracefully. So who made it this way? You know, and if, you know, you're effectively forcing people, you know, Elon Musk said, if Camp Kamala Harris wins, I'm going to jail.
- [462:34]
Charles
Right.
- [462:37]
De
The. The Jerusalem Post says we have doxing software. We have. We have an entire ministry whose job is to listen to every podcast I've ever done and. And, like, try to destroy my life.
- [462:52]
Pete
Right?
- [462:54]
De
Banned off of PayPal, banned off of YouTube, demonetized. Like, if you believed in all the things you say you believe in. If we're just a bunch of idiots, okay, let me be monetized on YouTube.
- [463:14]
Stormy
Don't.
- [463:15]
De
Don't, you know, don't pound me off to D Live and then try and destroy my ability to make a living on D Live. Right, because the second you don't do it, I'd be making 100 grand a year podcasting about roads and trains and telling the truth about Jews. And you're deathly afraid of that. You're deathly afraid of all of that.
- [463:50]
Stormy
Go ahead.
- [463:51]
De
Well, the natural constituency for these sorts of things is intellectually curious white guys with a job that is maybe not might require their attention, but isn't super intellectually demanding. And so they. Rather than listening to NPR or, you know, sports radio. Yeah, sports radio eight hours a Day, they throw in their headphones and they find stuff like this, and they listen to this. And that's how I ended up here, too. And if. If you let those guys work jobs where they're not frozen out, they'll all be making high fives or six figures, right? Why can't. Why can't they run the gas station? Oh, because you're giving the Indian family a tax break.
- [464:46]
Charles
Yep.
- [464:46]
De
So he. So the Indian guy doesn't pay any business taxes, and he can hire his kids and not pay them real wages. The second. The second you say, okay, well, you have to pay taxes like a regular person. You know, he switches. He switches ownership with his cousin who lives in Toronto, and they switch immigration, and then the whole thing starts all over again, Right. The second we say, oh, well, you know, you may be your. Your credential from, you know, Calcutta Tech University as a doctor isn't the same as, like, an actual MD from someplace that doesn't just cheat.
- [465:21]
Stormy
No, it turns out it's actually fake. Yeah, the NIH has totally exploded because they're like, oh, we have a doc. We have a doctor shortage and a nursing shortage, right? So let's bring in literally hundreds of thousands of Indian doctors. And they're all fake Jamaican, yet every single one of them, right. Basically paid their cousin to give them a fake medical degree. And none of these NIH bureaucrats ever bothered to call and see if the medical school on the piece of paper was actually real. So now their entire health care system is full of fake doctors, right, that they can't get rid of because they. They're not legally allowed to deport anybody. So they basically that be like, you stealing my wallet and me and you having to catch an Uber back to my house, right, for, like, the next 45 minutes. Like, me and the guy that stole my wallet are stuck in the car and we have to stare at each other.
- [466:19]
De
Yeah, well, and a state that allows this to happen.
- [466:23]
Charles
Right.
- [466:23]
De
Is illegitimate.
- [466:24]
Charles
Yes, exactly.
- [466:25]
Stormy
100. That's.
- [466:26]
De
This, you know, it's a cure. Starmer. Keir Starmer is a tool of the city of London, which is just drug money and prostitution money and Lord knows what else. Human trafficking. Right. You know, the Cayman Islands, Jersey Islands, all these different little banking havens
- [466:47]
Pete
that.
- [466:47]
De
That launder trillions of dollars through them every year. That's all.
- [466:51]
Tyler Redick
That's all.
- [466:52]
De
Care Storm is their man. He has absolutely no regard whatsoever for the actual people of the United Kingdom. And, you know, you're seeing the same sort of thing happening in Canada and the Same sort of thing happened in Australia and the same sort of thing happened here in the United States. Right. Because these people just aren't honest. Like white people. Like, if a white person got the fake doctor thing and then like, accidentally killed somebody, they'd turn themselves in. They'd feel so, so horrible. Like.
- [467:20]
Tyler Redick
Right.
- [467:20]
Pete
Yeah.
- [467:20]
De
But these sociopathic Indian guys, like, well, you know, I mean, like, you've seen cases where like, you know, a Indian woman doctor, you know, like, literally ripped the head off a baby. Right. In England and you know, like, contesting, like, why are you taking my license? I don't know. You freaking ripped the head off a baby using like, like. I don't know what to tell you.
- [467:41]
Pete
Right.
- [467:42]
De
So these, these high trust systems are only functional.
- [467:49]
Tyler Redick
Right.
- [467:50]
De
When you have high trust people.
- [467:51]
Charles
Bingo. Exactly.
- [467:53]
De
And that's, that's, that's the, that's, that's what the problem is, is you froze out all these, all these white guys. Charles and I've been around a long time. I know you have to. Pete. Right. The entire libertarian movement in 2008, 2009, during the Ron Paul revolution was day class A white guys who'd been denied a bunch of opportunities, who thought that the solution was like, well, if you just let me be free, things work better. And in their case, it's true. Like if you, if you let, you know, 160, 150 IQ white guy. I never actually thought about that. Yeah, the entire alt right is. Is like, okay, well, there's this dude. The entire alt right is. Is 150, 110, 30 IQ white guys.
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Pete
Yeah.
- [468:40]
De
That doesn't require them to actually.
- [468:42]
Pete
Yeah.
- [468:43]
Charles
The t. The TLDR on that one.
- [468:45]
Stormy
Yeah.
- [468:46]
Charles
The TLDR we know is underemployed white guys. That's basically what it is. It's underemployed white guys. That's what it is. And, and the only, and the only
- [468:54]
De
thing I can't get.
- [468:57]
Stormy
I can't get. Yeah.
- [468:58]
Charles
The only thing we had wrong in 2008, 2009 was whose boot we had to take off our necks. Right. I mean, really, at the end of the day, D. That's what it was. Underemployed white guys. And all we had wrong was whose boot we had.
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Pete
Yeah, yeah.
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Tyler Redick
Right.
- [469:14]
De
Like, it's better to wear the boot than be under it.
- [469:17]
Tyler Redick
That's.
- [469:17]
De
That's what we were wrong about. There's gonna be a boot no matter what you do. Yeah, exactly. Put your foot in it.
- [469:22]
Pete
That was, that was also, also. Who is, who was the enemy? We Were we were concentrating on the Fed.
- [469:31]
Charles
Yep.
- [469:31]
De
The state.
- [469:31]
Pete
The state. Yeah. And okay. And. Okay, fine. Sure. Okay. Right. Who. Who controls the state?
- [469:40]
Charles
Bingo.
- [469:41]
De
Yep.
- [469:41]
Charles
Pizza. Yep.
- [469:42]
Pete
Where? Who's controlled the state since. Since World War II.
- [469:46]
Charles
Yeah. Got the wrong ending, but I. That's it.
- [469:53]
Pete
Yep. Right. Well.
- [469:54]
De
And. And as you write. And this is why. This is why it's been demonetized on YouTube. I mean, I think you have. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Pete
Oh, yeah, yeah. I've been. I've been demonetized on YouTube.
- [470:07]
De
Yeah.
- [470:08]
Stormy
Right.
- [470:08]
De
Because the second you start asking those questions right then. And the answers are like, I'm sorry, Chris Langan is in Daniel, like the smartest dude in the history of IQ testing.
- [470:20]
Charles
Yeah.
- [470:21]
De
Is like. Is like. No, no, it's just, it's just, it's just them, you know, and you got all these people who are like, no, it's Zionism wins. Like, okay, if you're so smart, why is the smartest guy in the world like, like pointing out like this is the problem?
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Charles
Yeah, but no, on that note too, though, D. Look at it.
- [470:38]
Pete
Look at the life.
- [470:39]
De
Yeah, on that note.
- [470:40]
Charles
2D. Look at the life history of that guy. The smartest guy. Look at. Look at his life history. Look at his employment record. Like that. That's just even funny. Further proof of what I'm saying. So, yeah, I'm glad you brought him up. Please continue. I didn't mean to cut you.
- [470:53]
Jose
Right.
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De
Well, yeah, he's. He's one of these underemployed guys because he was just too damn smart to put up with. Bam. And he said, no, I'm not going to. So. So he would. He would just, you know, load.
- [471:08]
Pete
Load.
- [471:09]
De
I think he was like a dock. Dock worker or something or unloading trucks in a warehouse and. And thinking. Because he could, you know, work, exercise his body and think at the same time. And the fact of the matter is, right, that you've structurally disadvantaged things so badly for the people who can actually make the system work that the system's falling apart. And at the same time, you've structurally disadvantaged. You gave them a reason to be super skeptical of the system. If it was 1957 and every one of us, you know, got three, you know, a nice suburban house that we could. And a wife that was, you know, a debt free virgin with no tattoos, at least four kids and a solid job, you think any of us would be here?
- [471:56]
Charles
Hell no.
- [471:58]
De
No, we'd have nothing to. There'd be nothing to complain about.
- [472:03]
Stormy
I mean.
- [472:03]
Pete
Okay, yeah.
- [472:04]
De
The schools would get integrated. You'd be like, what the. You know, but, okay, well, we can afford to move. It's not that big a deal. Right, but you've pushed us and pushed us and pushed us till people are freaking living in northern Alabama and commuting to Atlanta. Listen to the show Pete and I did years ago, or last year, two years ago, where Pete talked about his friend that spent four hours a day in a car. He had no life.
- [472:28]
Stormy
That's insane.
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Charles
Cheese and rice, right? So.
- [472:31]
De
So when you tell that guy, like, hey, man, you're you. Your life is being destroyed, your health is being destroyed, your family's being destroyed, all because, like, Griggs v. Duke Power and Shelley v. Kramer, he's gonna listen, it's like, you're right, my life is being destroyed. Why am I spending this much time in the car?
- [472:49]
Stormy
Why is my food poison?
- [472:52]
De
Why is my food poison? Why can't I talk about any of this?
- [472:55]
Stormy
Why.
- [472:55]
De
Why is Hartsfield Jackson, you know, this. This just massive dysfunction. Why?
- [473:03]
Pete
You know what Jackson is?
- [473:05]
Stormy
No.
- [473:08]
De
Well, I mean, I know.
- [473:09]
Pete
Yes.
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Charles
Brilliant.
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Stormy
I'm assuming that's the Jackson involved.
- [473:18]
De
Yes. Well, I mean, you guys have saw the. Saw the picture of the. Of the one melanated individual woman in her car. Like, do you hate me?
- [473:26]
Stormy
Why?
- [473:27]
Pete
Why?
- [473:27]
De
There was funny memes about that, and someone put that to chirps. It's like, you know, lady, I don't hate you, but I don't want you in any position of responsibility anymore because you ruin everything when you're told that you're not just dumb. Like, if you were. If you were. If you were told the truth about yourself, that, you know, on average you have an IQ in the mid-80s that you can't really defer gratification, you're sexually profligate, you don't save money, can't really plan ahead. And in general, you just don't run things very well. You know, Richard Nixon said, you know, the Asians can do it, run their own, run themselves, like we do,
- [474:19]
Stormy
and
- [474:19]
De
the Latins can do it in a kind of desultory kind of. Kind of way that doesn't really function all that well, but they do it. And then the blacks, they just can't do it.
- [474:31]
Charles
Paraphrase.
- [474:31]
Stormy
You're talking like a 70 IQ average. Right. So slightly less of them can't stand trial legally in the United States.
- [474:42]
Pete
Right.
- [474:42]
De
And why are they allowed to vote if they can't stand trial?
- [474:45]
Charles
Bingo. Yeah, exactly.
- [474:48]
Stormy
Why are they allowed to work at the dmv? Right.
- [474:52]
De
Why Are they allowed to do anything?
- [474:55]
Pete
And you always laugh at the libertarians who say that anybody can be a libertarian when all libertarianism is. Is like one gigantic hypothetical, and they can't entertain hypotheticals.
- [475:10]
Jose
Oh, I never thought about that.
- [475:11]
Stormy
Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
- [475:13]
De
Anybody can be a libertarian, and somehow the only libertarians I've ever met are all, like, nerdy white and Asian dudes and there's no girls.
- [475:21]
Pete
That's really odd, huh?
- [475:23]
Charles
It's weird that, that. That had the Venn diagram crosses with role playing games so powerfully.
- [475:33]
De
Yeah, well, and. And this is like Rand Paul, who I like, for other reasons, you know, is sitting here like, well, we shouldn't have the army invade because it would look really bad. Well, I wouldn't want that.
- [475:44]
Tyler Redick
You know, the arm.
- [475:45]
Stormy
It would.
- [475:46]
De
Shut up, you idiot. Kentucky's being destroyed right this very second by invaders.
- [475:55]
Charles
Yeah.
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Jose
Why are you.
- [475:57]
De
Why are you not calling for the Kentucky National Guard to drive the MS.13 out of Lexington? Because they're there because they're dealing drugs. They're doing fentanyl.
- [476:11]
Stormy
You're.
- [476:11]
De
You're the center. You're the United States Senator from Kentucky. Where do you think all the fent that's killing all your people is coming from? It's not coming from the United States, buddy. It's coming from China via Mexico. You know, and If I kill 10,000 people with drugs, is it any different, any less of an act of war than if I do it with bullets and guys in uniform?
- [476:36]
Stormy
And.
- [476:36]
De
And where did the Chinese learn how to do that? Oh, right, the Sassoon family. Staunch Calvinists.
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Pete
I thought they were.
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Stormy
You've never heard of the Sephardic Calvinists?
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De
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
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Tyler Redick
Yeah.
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Pete
But.
- [476:57]
De
And this is. This is why that whole operation to, like, be like, Zionists are winning or whatever, that. I'm not on Twitter, so I have no idea. Like, and I probably never come back.
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Stormy
No, he just hears me about it.
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De
Yeah, but like, is bap wrong to be. Tell people to be in good shape? No, but, like, when you lie about something as basic as, like, who's actually occupying our government or who's in charge, you're just making things worse. Like, Confucius say, first the rectification of names, like, who's actually in charge. You know, I put it out on. On telegram, but, like, this needs to be repeating. Thank God, and I'm a thousand percent serious. Massad, write this down. Thank God for Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, because the United States being schizophrenically whipped back and forth between two to competing fractions and two competing ideologies every four to eight years makes the world a very dangerous place. And when you deal with China, you know who you're dealing with and you know what their incentives are, and you know that there's a serious man in charge. And deal with Russia, you know, there's a serious man in charge. You know what his priorities are. This democratic government nonsense of, let's start a war with Russia. No, let's stop the war with Russia and start a war with Iran. Like, it's crazy. It's insane. It might blow up the entire world any second. Joe Biden could look up from his pudding up and be like, you know, I think we should start a war with Iran and blow stuff up. Congratulations. $300 barrel oil and people starving to death. Millions of Africans walking north because there's no gas and they have to get somewhere. And there'll be Hebrew immigrant aid society with boats waiting for them in Tripoli, waiting to take them to Sicily.
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Stormy
Yeah. Will be like the. The Leonardo DiCaprio standing in front of, like, in the Titanic, just, you know, holding out some sub Saharan arm.
- [479:02]
De
Like, yep, yep. They'll be in Marseille. They'll. They'll walk from Botswana all the way. So who's. Who's actually in charge? Like, you know, like Pete said, who's in charge? And everything sucks.
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Pete
Like, yeah, well, and what. What's the best part about that is. And I know I've said this before before, but you get this thing about. It's like, okay, so why are they overrepresented in pretty much everything?
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Stormy
Well, how come it is 80? Jewish. 80%.
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Tyler Redick
You're.
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Pete
Yeah. You're just.
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Stormy
Presidential cabinet.
- [479:45]
Pete
You're just jealous because they're successful. Successful at what? What are they successful at? Well, and.
- [479:55]
De
And, you know. Oh, the Department of Defense was. Lloyd Austin. The dude left his job for four months and no one noticed. Tell me he's in charge.
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Stormy
Yep.
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De
He was gone for how long?
- [480:07]
Stormy
His deputy, his second in command, didn't even know where he was. So how important is this?
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De
Yeah, like, who's in charge there? I mean, you know, Michael Jones has talked about this. Tim Kelly's talked about this. Who actually runs the American government? Is it Andy Blinken? Is it Alan Mayorkas? Is it Kamala Harris? I don't think so. I mean, I think she's. She's got a, you know, three bottle of chardonnay day and a habit and probably can't even freaking stand up straight without some chemical assistance, but that's my thought. I don't know. I don't know. Is it Barack Obama? Right?
- [480:47]
Pete
You know, Barack Obama answers. Barack Obama, he. He answers to, you know, it's like, was it like six months ago he flew to London and it's like, oh, he's going to London to tell them exactly what's going. It's like, no, he's not. He's going to London to get orders.
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Charles
Yep.
- [481:08]
Pete
Stop.
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Stormy
What's in London? Chatham House is in London. Whose house is Chatham House?
- [481:13]
Pete
I don't know.
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De
Right. Yeah. Well, and. And why do all these, you know, conspiracy theories and I'm, you know, proud conspirator.
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Charles
I'll wear the.
- [481:25]
De
I will wear the tinfoil hat. Conspiracy theories flourish in places where there's epistemological crises. And if you don't think that, like, yeah, I'm sure there are conspiracy theories in Russia, but no one's like, you know what? Secretly Vladimir Putin is controlled by the space aliens from the planet Zongo, and he is receiving orders from the fillings in his seat. Everyone goes, dude, that's crazy, because Vladimir Putin is obviously in charge. Now, maybe there's interest backing Vladimir Putin, but he has billions of dollars of his own. He's obviously in charge. And whatever interests might be backing him, it's. It's transparent what their interests are and what they want. He is in the United.
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Stormy
I see in Russia.
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De
Say, same with Xi Jinping in China.
- [482:19]
Pete
Right?
- [482:20]
De
Like, why or who is in charge? And what do they want in the United States? No one knows because we have this shadowy cabal of Jews that run everything that lie constantly. Like, if Victoria new and said, look, I'm still salty about a pogrom that happened in 1648, and I can hold a grudge. I can at least respect that her was. She was being honest about that. And so I want to, like, mess up Russia and I want to watch a bunch of Ukrainians get killed because my great, great, great, great, great grandfather, you know, had his shoe store burned down by comments himaliskis Cossacks.
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Stormy
Okay,
- [483:02]
De
maybe that's reasonable, maybe it's not. But at least tell me there's no reason that the average person should have to listen to, I mean, like, Dr. Johnson. I think I'm the one who turned Pete on to Dr. Johnson,
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Stormy
of course,
- [483:18]
De
bonded with him for years. But you shouldn't have to listen to weird, obscure radio programs like this to know what the basic, like, what? Why is there this gigantic war that might start a nuclear war and destroy the world? You know, Matt Bracken the great Navy SEAL author, and was on coffee and a mic the other day talking about this, and it's like, it's. The analogy is like in 1962, if instead of covering the Cuban missile crisis, the newspapers were all covering like I Love Lucy reruns and celebrity gossip, the Russians just used a weapon that we have no response for. It's, it's hypersonic in atmosphere. We don't know what its range is. We don't know. I mean, maybe we do, but like, that should scare the. Out of everybody. And no one's talking about it except crazy people on the Internet. Why not? If my kids are gonna get nuked, I want to know why.
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Stormy
That's, that's actually a really good point. Has anybody heard mainstream news cover the, the Merv launch? Tucker's talked about it on the podcast, but nothing on tv. So like fucking. When I talk to boomers, they don't know that Russia literally launched an ICBM at Ukraine.
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Pete
Yeah, and you can. The video is out there. We showed it on the OGC stream the other night. The video is. Everyone should watch one of those remarks. It's one of those remarkable things because if you're, if you're like a dude, you're like, holy crap, that is the coolest thing I've ever seen. But then you're like, we don't have an answer for that. So what, what happens if that comes our way? I Remember back in 2018, they were talking about how he had a, an ICBM or it was something just brand new that he could launch straight down to the South Pole, come up around the, around the planet and reach the United States. Why don't we have anything like that? Or do we?
- [485:38]
Stormy
We do. It's space launch. We don't have to go around the pole. But still, it doesn't matter.
- [485:42]
Pete
Yeah, but I mean, he's literally just showing. Yeah, he's just literally showing off. He's just like, look at what we can do. What are you guys doing? And what are we doing? Like sending 20 year old technology to Ukraine. Ukraine. Along with billions and billions of billions of dollars who now they're admitting we have no idea where that money is. It's unaccounted for. Where is it?
- [486:10]
De
Oh yeah. And, oh, it's only the conspiracy theorists. Wait a minute. Victoria mentioned that there were 42. Not one, not two, not 10, 42 different biological labs in Ukraine. And oh, by the way, the 100 laptop, 100 Biden laptop story, actually accurate, you know, censoring the New York Post which is founded by Alexander Hamilton back in like, I don't know, the late 1790s, like one of America's oldest newspapers. We're now, we don't know the full story of what happened in Ukraine, but we know for sure that, you know, the Biden family was influenced pedaling there was John Kerry's stepson got a job with Burisma or John. Let me. John Cohen John, formerly known as John Kerry. Right. Like, yep.
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Stormy
And you got Kofer Black, though, former head of CIA counterterrorism.
- [487:01]
De
Why is this happening?
- [487:03]
Stormy
Right?
- [487:05]
De
You know, why is.
- [487:07]
Stormy
Why is that. Why is the company Burisma owned by Igor Kolomoiski, the guy who is on the same modeling company, the guy that funded that modeling company which we already talked about before you jumped on de that gave Jeffrey Epstein all of those little Ukrainian girls. So those blackmail. Jeffrey Epstein's blackmail tapes are actually Igor Kolamoiski's blackmail tapes at the same time as he was head of the World Zionist Council. Interesting. Yeah.
- [487:31]
De
Well, and again, if there's no conspiracy is forever. Well, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. They're trying to shut it down for sure. But if this is not a big deal and millions of people said, hey, you know, if we'd known about the laptop story, we wouldn't have voted for Biden. He would have lost the 2020 election even more than he did in reality.
- [487:54]
Pete
Right.
- [487:57]
De
The question then becomes, well, why are you. Hey, guys, it is Ryan. For years chum has been setting the bar for online social casino fund. And it just keeps getting better. With new games released every week and daily bonuses to collect, the fun never stops. So claim your welcome bonus now@chumbacasino.com no purchase necessary bgw group void prohibited by law. See terms and conditions 21 plus, you know, again, just be transparent. Why are you. Why are you laundering all this money? Why is there tape of Victoria Newland picking the cabinet and in 2014 for a coup? Why was John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Basically, could you even imagine if too like senior Duma members, like, came to Mexico and said, you know, thank you President Sheinbaum for having us here. Glorious atlant will be retaken first via bodies and then via bullets and then the United States not doing a damn thing about it? I mean, can you even imagine how much. And people should lose their minds. They should be angry. They should be. They should be really like, that's. That's a really provocative thing to have senior legislatures of a navy of other superpower show up to your Neighbors and say, you should start some with your neighbors, you know, and it didn't work out last time. We know that the Georgians tried it. Michael Sfax Feely, who's now, I think, the mayor of Odessa or something, right? But the same playbook, right? There's a Russian minority that was put there by the Soviets to, to create conflict in all of these Soviet satellites in Kazakhstan, in Ukraine, in Georgia, in all these places. Now, mostly in Kazakhstan, they just got repatriated or a lot of the stands, they all just left. But there was a significant Russian minority in Georgia and they were getting oppressed and shot at and they were told that they couldn't use their official language. And then when the Russians sends him, we said, that's not kosher. Stop it. Right? Mikhail Shaksi starts a war and he gets his ship pushed in. And John McCain, God bless that tumor, serving the whole world, you know, wants to start a war with Russia over. The, the, the, you wanted Georgia and NATO. Georgia is not even on the Mediterranean. Georgia is on the Black Sea through the Dardanelles. There is no way, right, like the North Atlantic Georgia. Look at a map like go on Google Earth right now. It's, it's, it's a ways, right? So why is this? Oh, because the people who own John McCain and never forget that John McCain had some dark stuff in his closet, too, That he'd flipped in Vietnam, that he'd been the one who started the Forestall fire, that, that his, you know, his dad and granddad, the admirals, managed to quash that for him. But when he sang like canary in Vietnam, his wife Cindy was not a particularly good person. You know, this is all common knowledge if you hang out in our corner of the Internet, but somehow, right, this is never talked about in public where people could see it. Why not? You know, I, I think, Pete, you brought this up recently. Dennis Hastert was the longest serving Republican speaker of the House, I think, still to this date. And the dude was a chomo. If I was a Democrat, I'd be talking about that forever. Why, why isn't it brought up? Why do. Why are only crazy conspiracy people like me remember that?
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Pete
I mean, it's obvious because you can't talk about it when you've been implicated in it. I mean, that's what this, that's what this brings us all, brings us all the way back to what we were talking about in the beginning. It's. They have something on everybody. They couldn't get anything on. They couldn't pay gates off because Matt Gaetz's family is worth, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. So how do you get them? Set them up, Set him up in a trap. So it has to be sexual. And you know, I said earlier, I think that all of these APAC babysitters are not there going, you know, showing up with checks. I think they're just showing up with pictures and going, just remember this is how you vote. This is what you do. This is, I mean, easy, easy peasy.
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De
Yeah. I mean that's, that's essentially what they had. And you know, Matt Gates is, was at the time, you know, like in his 20s, a single good looking guy in Florida. Like, and you know. You've been to Florida, Pete?
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Pete
Like I lived in Florida. Yeah.
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De
There's dimes literally just all over the place. You can just pick them up off the ground, right? Like there's probably South Florida has, outside of maybe what, Los Angeles and like Paris. Like, like the best collection of like ridiculously hot chicks of probably top, top five in the world, South Florida, I would guess. So there's tons of them around. And you say, hey, do you want to spend a bunch of time with like a handsome rich dude who's got political power, get some pictures of him? Right? And I, I sent you the story, right? If you put echoes on that story, you'd break your echo machine, right? Like it was literally just other than Matt Gates, everyone involved is Jewish. Everybody. And it sounds crazy, but that's what they've got on everybody. And that's why personally, I think Congressman Massey's wife died under suspicious circumstances right after, coincidentally, right after he said something about everyone having apac mind her on the world's biggest podcast.
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Stormy
Yeah, I was talking to Dr. Cynthia McKinney. Some of the old heads, we all know who that is, but I was talking to her about Massie and her in the house after 9 11. I believe it was her Ron Paul. And what was the guys, the gentleman trafficante, right? And after 9 11, you know, Cynthia McKinney goes on like the famous, you know, her famous C SPAN or CNN interview where she says, you know, Israel did 9 11, which is factually true. Like it's documented. I can pull up the FBI reports. Like the FBI caught a bunch of, you know, Israeli spies leaving the towers with vans full of C4.
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De
Yeah, Ryan Dodson's done.
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Stormy
Yep. I was about to say, everybody go check out Ryan Dawson's work, right? Just work on who actually killed jfk. Like he documents everything religiously. You'll never see any. You'll be sick of seeing documentation if you go check out Ryan Dawson. But she says on the Senate floor or the House floor, Israel did 911 and they're setting up this Department of Homeland Security and this Patriot act to basically get you know, tentacles in every single one of our intelligence agencies. Civilian and the nsa, you know, not into the, you know, Army Intelligence and Air Force Intelligence, Navy Intelligence, but all of the semi civilian ones and all of the Justice Department. So who else coordinates with dhs, doj, FBI, atf? Literally all of them. And the next, I think the next basically, basically her and traffic on day were you know, just like they did with Jamal Bowman and who was the other one? Cory Booker. Right. Where they spent millions of dollars for a house race that no one prior had spent more than a hundred thousand dollars in history. Right. Millions of dollars for a house race and push these guys out and within a week. Jim Trafficante or not Jim, I can't remember. I just remember his last name is Trafficante. Jim Traffic is the mobster James Davis Trafficant. Trafficant. Yeah that's exactly right. He had a very strange lawnmower accident. Right. He was mowing his yard and suddenly died. And Cynthia McKinney had to go be a teacher in Bangladesh. Right. That was the furthest away that she could get because she would have been just like him and they would have been just like Massey's wife who was just like John Forestall who is just like George Patton who was just like. I mean anyways,
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Pete
Yeah, there's a, there's a pattern and that's one of the biggest problems that we have is, is that there high IQ people are really good at noticing patterns. Remember Bobby Fischer, he noticed patterns and he noticed patterns so well he had to live the rest of his life in Iceland. He's buried there too. Yeah. This is what happens to people have pattern references.
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Jose
Yep.
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De
And Iceland is the size of a medium sized city. There's like 350, 400,000 people in the whole country. And they got in trouble after they, after 2008 when they got their bankers and said hey you can't keep doing that. And right after that they got their first rabbi.
- [498:27]
Pete
And five days later that rabbi was in. There was a newspaper article saying Isling gets their, gets their first rabbi. Five days later he's back in the newspaper saying Iceland needs to do more. Needs to do more for, for migrants. Needs to let more migrants into it. Let's needs to start letting migrants into his country, into its country. Well thank you Rabbi, we appreciate that notice A pattern.
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Stormy
Well, it's not just Bobby Fischer. Right? Bobby Fischer, one of the highest IQs ever recorded at the time, 187. Chris Langan, current highest IQ holder. Right. Both, you know, noticed patterns, I believe. I can't, I don't know my phone, but I have a really funny newspaper story. Headline is one of my backgrounds. And it's like smartest man alive says that they're. The world is controlled by a criminal cartel of Zionist bankers. And that's funny because Francis Parker Yaqui, which was also one of the, one of the smartest IQs recorded around the time, what it was like the 30s that he was in school getting standardized tests, was 180 something IQ. So it seems, yeah, the smart. It seems like anti Semitism or at least no noticing is not low IQ at all. It's actually high iq. It's just so high that everybody with the highest IQ seems to notice the same. And anybody on the timeline telling you that it's a low iq, like, okay, well please explain to me how the highest IQ people, highest IQs ever recorded. How come all of these people are saying the same thing I am, that you're trying to tell me is low iq? Go tell Chris Langan it's low iq and he'll be like, I'm the smartest person alive.
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Pete
It's the meme, it's the meme of, of you have the, you have grug. And he's saying, oh, it, it's the Jews. And then the bell goes up. It's like, no, no, no, no, you're, you're just jealous. And then it comes back down and you go into the 150s and 160s and it's like, yeah, it's the Jews.
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De
Yeah, well, and I wouldn't, I'm not saying I'm a genius, I'm not, I don't think. But certainly not any in the Chris Lincoln, Francis Parker Yaqui type territory. But how can you look at the world straight up tell me you have a Ministry of Diaspora affairs at any time. I try and talk about what's happening to my fellow Scotsman in Scotland, being ethnically replaced, being raped, mass raped, being brutally killed, being attacked, their church is being burned. Oh, because I'm a white nationalist and American, that's like a national threat. And like my friends can't come see me because DHS will deny their visas. But you have a, you have a Ministry of Diaspora affairs and your based newspaper cares very, very much about, and lies about a, you know, a pogrom In Amsterdam. Well, who started it, dude? Who? You know this. Only these people could have come up with the term chutzpah.
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Pete
Right?
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De
And when I believe you about you, I'm a bad guy, right? When I believe my ancestors about you, I'm a bad guy. It's only when I believe you about my ancestors and believe the people you paid to lie about you about you, then I'm okay. But when I read what you have to say and the Daily Forward says, yes, Vatican ii, the destruction of the church was brought about by Jewish converts. Okay, I believe you.
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Pete
Yes.
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De
Abortion is entirely homosexual, Entirely Jewish. Okay, I believe you. Contraception, entirely Jewish. Homosexuality, Jewish. Pornography, Jewish. Okay, I believe you. Central banking, entirely Jewish. Hollywood, entirely Jewish. I believe you. Okay. And I'm the bad guy for. I just read what you, what you
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Charles
write D D On that. I just read D. On that note, you're married, you have children. So I'm going to say this to you and I'm just gonna again, I'm gonna beat the drum that I've been beating for quite some time now. If your wife is getting ready to go out to dinner with you and she says, I think these pants make me look fat, what do you think? Are you going to be the bad guy for lying? Are you going to be the bad guy for agreeing with her?
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Charles
So I both.
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Pete
The answer to that is yes.
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Charles
So there you go again. I, I, I'm just, again, I'm draw, I'm, I'm noticing patterns and putting pink threads together again. There's more of that again. That spiritually feminine behavior that here I, I'm telling you all this stuff. Okay, I believe you. How dare you believe me. All right, then I won't believe you. How dare you not believe me?
- [504:27]
De
Exactly.
- [504:28]
Pete
Well, there's no other group there, there's, there's no other group that when they're, when they're spokespeople. Tell the truth and tell the lie and tell a lie. Where it's just obvious is, you know when they're telling the truth and you know when they're lying. It's so, it's, it's one of the, it's so obvious. And, you know, you say that, you say that out loud and it's like, well, that sounds insane, but it's not, it's not those, those who could notice the patterns know when they're telling the truth because it's almost like they're bragging.
- [505:06]
Charles
Yeah.
- [505:08]
Pete
And when they're lying, it's when they're really, really defensive. It's, it's really odd. It's really odd. And I know, you know, oh, you're supposed to judge people as individuals, although they don't judge themselves as individual, they judge themselves as individuals. But then they, you know, Sandy Koufax, oh, what a, you know, what a credit he was to the, to the Jewish people. Or when they said recently that 83, 83% of Jews support abortion, consider abortion to be a human right. And it's like, okay, so you're taking credit. You're, you're talking as a group right now. But if I say that that's wrong. If I, if I disagree with you, not only am I anti Semitic, but now you're going to want me to start breaking it down into like, oh, no. Well, you need to be judged. These people need to be judged as individuals. Well, you can't take credit for stuff as a group and then say, you need to be judged as individuals. I'm sorry, that's not going to happen.
- [506:15]
De
Well, you can't advocate as a group to destroy my country. And then when I fight, try to get together with guys as a group and fight back from that or complain about it or notice it, then I'm the best. Like, no, this is not how this works. This, this is like morality requires reciprocity and they will never reciprocate, so they can never play the game. That's just right. They have to be dispossessed of power in every country because in every country that they're, that they have any kind of influence in, they destroy it. Look what they're doing to Canada. Look what they're doing to Australia. Look what they're doing in New Zealand. Look what they're doing in Argentina. Look what they're doing to Europe. Look what they're doing to South Africa. Name one place that functions better now than it did in 1940. That's run. It's under Jewish influence. You can't, you can't name one. And, and that's right. That's if I'm wrong.
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Tyler Redick
Bap.
- [507:27]
De
Someone in your circle is going to listen to this. Prove it. Prove how these will to power Zionists are in fact the best thing and the coolest thing. And like, show me where it's working,
- [507:45]
Pete
because I can't. Has the world gotten better since World War II or has it gotten worse? Did the good guys win World War II? You know, it's the old Norm MacDonald thing, isn't it? Isn't it odd that the good guys won every war? Well, what the hell has happened since then? That's the easiest ways. It's like, okay, so the 19th century, we had problems in this country. We had a war, horrible. Some people who know, know that there was a lot of influence on that war. I have a book, a book right over here of diary by. The diary of what he, what a Rothschild saw when he came here during, during the war. And we were, we did pretty good in the 19th century. We did pretty good up until about World War I. And then, you know, we still had a chance. There were still men fighting for this country through the 1920s and 1930s to take it back to where we. To. To stop the progress, the quote unquote progress. Progress. And then they started another war where they probably killed 40 million people. So that all of this progress, all of these gifts that have been given to us, everything that's been done to this society, to this society, you know, the World Jewish Congress bragging about all the things that they did. Feminism, gay marriage, Civil Rights act, all of these things that they were on the front lines fighting for. And I'm. And you're bragging about it. And I'm not supposed to stand back and go, well, you know what? I judge that we're not better off for all of this. So why'd you do it? Why'd you do. Always comes back to why. I'm one of those people you talk about. 9, 11. Yeah, how did that happen? Towers came down? Pentagon. Fine, whatever. Why? Tell me why. I want to know why all these things happen. Why in 2014 do you stage a coup in. In Ukraine? Why?
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Charles
Why?
- [510:11]
Pete
Tell me what. How is.
- [510:13]
Charles
How did that couple.
- [510:15]
Pete
How does staging that coup better our lives? How did that make us a more cohesive, a better country, a more prosperous country? How. How are all these things that you're doing? How does it make us better? How? And then, you know, now we find out that, well, we have. Mossad is listening to this is going to. I mean, they, they're using, from what I've seen recently is people are getting doxed on Twitter using software from Israel, from Israeli intelligence. ADL's using it. Okay. Why? What are you so scared of? Thought you guys were impatient. I thought you. You're the successful ones. You're the ones who are. You're better than us.
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De
That.
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Pete
Yeah. I mean,
- [511:11]
De
you're just.
- [511:12]
Pete
We're just jealous. Right? But why. Why this all. Why did all this after.
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Tyler Redick
If.
- [511:19]
De
If they're so. If they're so great and so much better and so much smarter and the Vietnamese are better than us, and the Turkish Americans are better than us, and the Indian Americans are better than us, and the Japanese and all these other people make more money than the average white person, and they're all so much better than us. Why can't we just compete on an even playing field?
- [511:43]
Stormy
Right?
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De
Because we're losing. Because that's right. Right. Like there's a competition. Stop giving Indians tax breaks. Stop hiring, you know, Vietnamese doctors that don't have real credentials. Stop. Importing people, you know, with an overclass that are laundering money out of China. But if we're all even, right, let's be even. Or, you know, I seen recall a document once that said, for ourselves and our posterity. Well, I'm that posterity. Stormy's at posterity. Charles is at posterity. Pete's at prosperity. And you can't have it. It's ours. You can't take my kids Christmas presents from under my Christmas tree. They're for my kids off. You know, you can't take. You can't take the thing that says from Grandma that was intended to go to their posterity at Christmas time and take it just because my kids got lots of prisons and your kids got none. I don't care. Maybe your grandparents should have been more successful, you know, And. And it is just a resentment. It was kind of funny in a sad sort of way. Jared Taylor had dinner with this Eddie. Eddie Huang fellow or something. Used to be, like, big with Vice Media.
- [513:31]
Pete
I think.
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De
I think we talked about it. Pete. Yep. You know, I think he's married to a Jewess. He's a weed dealer.
- [513:42]
Pete
He got in trouble.
- [513:43]
De
Yeah.
- [513:47]
Pete
An Asian that went to Yeshiva Law School. Yeah.
- [513:49]
De
Shiva Law School. The Benjamin Cardozo School of Law. Right. And he wants to justify, like, well, you know, all these other people don't care about. Okay, Eddie, what if I try to go to Taiwan or China and pretend that I'm Taiwanese? Can I be. Can I be rich and powerful and famous in China. Promoting degeneracy in China the way you got rich and powerful and famous in the United States, promoting gangster culture and gangster ways of dressing and dealing drugs because he was a weed dealer. What happens if I go to China and try any of that? I'd be. I'd be deported. So deported would be the best thing that would happen to me. I probably fall. Fall down a couple flights of stairs out of my way on my way to the airport, or I just disappear, and you'd never see me again, Rightfully so.
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Stormy
You know,
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De
if you go to Singapore and try that, they'll just kill you because they're a tiny island. They have no resources. They have no room for error. And so they go, hey, yeah, if you're going to make things more difficult in this country, we're just going to. We're just gonna make you dance on air for a bit, and then we're going to tell everybody else, like, hey, you don't deal drugs in Singapore
- [515:26]
Stormy
is
- [515:26]
De
their perfect sovereign right to do so. But you, but Eddie Gwang can come to this country, make it worse. And then when Jared Taylor, whose family's been here since, I don't know, like, 16, 20 or something, objects, his objection is, well, you can't object. That's mean. How about go yourself? How about go seek some Canadian healthcare, as Pete's been saying lately, Jared Taylor has. Has a perfect right to say that he wants this country to be for him and his children because his ancestors are the ones who gave it to him in the first place. And everybody that's been here since 1965, you're just visiting. And you know why I know you're just visiting? Because you've never treated it like it's your home. What do you do?
- [516:21]
Stormy
You.
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De
You ruin it. You export jobs. You send billions of dollars, trillions of dollars out of the country. You make everything worse. There's trash everywhere. You're dealing drugs, commit a bunch of crime. This is just a place to make a buck for you. Well, I got nowhere else to go. I'm an American. My ancestors are buried here. I'll be buried here. My kids will be buried here. You're gonna make your. You're gonna take a bunch of money out of my pocket, go live like a king in whatever third world you're
- [517:05]
Pete
from,
- [517:07]
De
and then I'm the bad guy. Go yourself.
- [517:13]
Pete
Well, I think. I think we are. I think we delivered a message. So I'll give. Do what I do at the end of every one. Every one of these. Go around the horn and everybody can give their final message if they have one. And we'll end this because we're getting right at about two hours. So Charles, why don't you go first.
- [517:38]
Charles
Not too much. Thank you, Pete. Not too much to say beyond just stepping back to where this all began with the Matt get situation and tying threads together and. And the only piece of. Of advice or the only offering I would present at this time at the end of this program is I think this is one of the most important reasons it's good to get right with. With God and it's good to find a moral center because when you do that, you are far more able to protect yourself those you love and retain that which you love. Because if you find that self respect, if you find that self love. And I don't mean it in the narcissistic sense, I mean it in as a divine sense. If you find that, then you cannot be be bribed. Money will. Will hold very little appeal to you beyond meeting your basic needs. You cannot be caught in a honey trap. So I would say try and order your steps to the best of your ability and your future will be all the brighter and all the safer for it. Thank you for having me on your show, Pete.
- [518:51]
Pete
Of course, course. Love having you here. D d
- [518:56]
De
I'll let people know I'm going to be doing a different. A friend of mine is going to be launching a different project. It's going to be Catholic Focus, kind of Catholic version of contra mun choir. Keep an eye out for that. But just repeating what I always repeat at every show, you know, like go to buy Charles's books, support Pete with, you know, via the substack or Patreon or whatever. Because the only people. The only reason I have this opportunity is, is Pete was brave enough to do it and put his name out there and, and whether the slings and arrows. So if you want more stuff like this, you know, support the people that don't lie to you. So that's all I got to say.
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Pete
Thanks.
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Stormy
D Stormy, to Charles's point, it's of vital importance that a man finds his center.
- [519:50]
Pete
And
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Stormy
before you can exert your will on anything else, you need to own your own headspace. If you are not sovereign in your own head, you are not sovereign anywhere. If you can't close your eyes and say no thoughts for 60 seconds seconds, then you're not sovereign inside your own head. How could you possibly be sovereign anywhere else? And try it. I bet you can't go 60 seconds. It'll take probably you trying it for a week, two weeks. And when you do it, you can go longer. If you do it even more, you can go longer still. And you will find a piece
- [520:37]
Pete
and
- [520:37]
Stormy
a strength that you're not going to be able to get anywhere else. And then, like Charles said, it doesn't matter what they do to you. Doesn't matter what they threaten to take away. It doesn't fucking matter, right? Because you have this place, this structure that you are anchored to that they will never understand. They'll never be able to take it away from you, no matter what they do. And when you have that, all of the other things that they could take away just seem absolutely meaningless and pointless. So I guess that's all I have to say. A man needs to be sovereign in his own head. And once he's sovereign there, he can be sovereign anywhere.
- [521:31]
Pete
Well, I want to thank Stormy for coming in and covering for Jose. Jose's taking a little.
- [521:38]
Stormy
Thanks for having me, Pete. I really appreciate it.
- [521:41]
Pete
Yeah, of course. Of course. Jose's taking a little. Taking a little hiatus to deal with some stuff and, you know, pray for him. Pray for all of us. And until the next time, thought crime syndicates out. Take care.
- [521:57]
Stormy
God bless.
- [521:59]
De
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