The Discussions With 'Dark Enlightenment' (So Far) - Part 1

Summary

---

Podcast Summary: The Discussions With 'Dark Enlightenment' (So Far) - Part 1

The Pete Quiñones Show – August 7, 2026
Host: Pete Quiñones
Guest: "Dark Enlightenment" (DE)

Episode Overview

This episode brings together host Pete Quiñones and recurring guest "Dark Enlightenment" (DE) for a wide-ranging, no-holds-barred discussion on the collapse of American civic institutions, the failures of libertarianism, cultural and demographic transformation, and the philosophical and practical imperatives necessary for personal and communal survival in an increasingly unstable United States. The conversation is candid, critical, and unapologetic—often delving into dissident right themes, elite theory, and historical revisionism.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Histories & Intellectual Evolution

• DE’s Path: Former radical libertarian, exposed to neoconservatism post-9/11, ultimately moving toward the dissident right, inspired by thinkers like Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Moldbug (Curtis Yarvin), and Christopher Alexander.
• On Libertarianism: Both agree that many libertarians are motivated by economics as a kind of secular religion, but ignore fundamental realities of human nature and power.
  • (09:19) DE: “Economics can ameliorate a lot, but not everyone wants to be free, and not everyone is equal. Most societies will not function as libertarians imagine.”

2. Critiques of Libertarianism and Individualism

• Classical libertarianism is dismissed as viable only among high-IQ, well-armed, like-minded men—impractical for broader, diverse societies.
  • (17:30) DE: "Libertarians want to pretend everyone’s the same and they’re not... Once you accept that, libertarianism goes out the window or becomes suicidal."
• Libertarianism as Anglo Philosophy: "It’s the natural ideology of armed white guys amongst themselves." (14:26)

3. Power, Elites, and Social Engineering

• Consensus that societal power will always be exercised; abdication by “morally principled” libertarians simply surrenders that power to enemies.
  • (234:11, meme reference) Pete: “The spike bat of state power gets picked up by the regime and smashed into the head of the morally pure ancap—who won’t use it.”
• Social Engineers: Smart, devious elites use abstract egalitarian rhetoric to manipulate the masses and weaken indigenous authority structures.
  • (17:49) Pete: "High IQ social engineers use ‘all men are created equal’ to program the 80- and 90-IQ masses against their own betters."

4. Demography, Diversity, and Community Breakdown

• Gallagherist analysis: mass immigration, subsidized diversity, and deliberate fragmentation of local institutions render collective action and solidarity almost impossible.
  • (39:27) DE describes America’s “consultants triangle”: you can have safe, affordable, or convenient housing—but not all three—and the system is set up to thwart any effective organization.
• On Suburbia: The suburban model is viewed as both economically unsustainable and as a tool for atomizing populations, stripping them of social capital and collective agency.
  • (65:00) DE: "Suburbs are pure deadweight loss. There’s no way the house pays you back."

5. The Collapse of Civic Institutions & Elite Theory

• Both note the irrelevance and detachment of American “democratic” institutions from the interests of the people they supposedly represent.
  • (31:01) DE: “At this point, the whole thing is illegitimate. It’s a scam... every president my entire life has been a war criminal.”
• “Elite theory” is key—rulers are always a small class; the broad masses are led, not leaders. Political change only occurs when a motivated minority seizes power.

6. Parallel Structures & Survival Strategies (Colony Building)

• Collectivism for Survival: The way forward is not ideological purity but building tight, local, mutually supportive communities: resource-pooling, homeschooling, group buying, and community defense.
  • (54:00–61:00) DE outlines a practical vision: small groups pooling resources for a gym, homeschooling, food co-ops, parallel economic and security structures, etc.
  • (74:13) DE: "Our enemies work together. We need to start doing the same."
• On Individual Liberty: Liberty is only meaningful within a communal context; “hyper-individualism” is seen as an ahistorical psyop.
  • (98:20) DE: "Communities are free. Not men."

7. State Power and Moral Consensus

• Discussion of how blue laws and moral legislation, far from expanding the state, historically kept it small by strong community norms—degeneracy and diversity grow the surveillance state.
  • (363:49, referencing Oren MacIntyre): "Maybe you don’t want the state to be smaller. Moral consensus makes the state small."

8. Demographic & Economic Realities

• Housing markets, student debt, and the cost of living are structurally rigged against families and median-wage earners, largely due to immigration and financialization.
  • (126:51) Pete: “In 2000, the median income was $30,000, the average home price was $120,000; now, median income is $40,000, average home price $410,000.”
• Commercial Real Estate Crisis: Noted as a looming disaster for cities and their tax bases.

9. Race, Immigration, and Civilization

• Open discussion of American decline as the result of demographic transformation, loss of solidarity, and elevation of population groups that, in the speakers’ view, cannot maintain or contribute to civilization at scale.
  • (143:37): "Imagine going through all the hassles of moving, not for anything positive, but because your neighborhood is no longer livable due to demographic change."

10. The Moral & Religious Undercurrent

• Recurrent contention that modern America is an anti-Christian, satanic regime at war with its historic people and faith.
  • (355:13): “We live in a society with banners to Satanism everywhere—this is a demon country.”

---

Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• On Libertarian Meetings (09:19)
  DE: “It’s literally like, if you’re lucky, 10 dudes, all of whom are a little bit autistic, every one with an IQ above 120... If society was all 120+ IQ, autistic Asian and white men, yeah, libertarianism would work. But that’s not the world.”
• On State Power (234:11)
  Pete: “The guy in the ancap shirt is so morally consistent he gets his head bashed in with the state power bat by a tranny.”
• On Mainstream Political Ritual (31:01)
  DE: “Every American president in my lifetime, maybe except Carter, is a war criminal. And Nancy Pelosi just made $100 million for no reason.”
• On Suburban Life (43:00–45:00)
  DE: “Your friend spends 2 months a year in his car to work in Atlanta. That’s hellish. The phenomenon of the podcast is born out of suburban despair.”
• Why Progressives Win (74:13)
  DE: “Our enemies kick our butts not because they’re better—they’re not. They work together. We have to do the same.”
• On Individual Liberty (98:20)
  DE: “Liberty has always been socially conditional. Freedom to what? One man, no man.”
• On Fake Civic Religion (268:17)
  Pete: “First Amendment is the greatest propaganda tool ever. It gives the press freedom to be the social engineers of mankind—and libertarians cheer them on.”
• On the Second American Revolution (355:13)
  DE: “This isn’t about abolition or slavery. It’s Jacobins, atheists, and communists on one side, and the friends of order, regulated freedom, and the Bible on the other.”

---

Practical Takeaways & Solutions

• Parallel Institutions: Build real-life, face-to-face networks—pool resources, homeschool, create co-ops, and insulate economically/socially from regime institutions.
• Dunbar’s Number-Based Communities: Communities should be sized for human needs (approx. 120 families), not the atomized, hostile suburbs.
• Reject Abstract Individualism: Survival and flourishing are collective, not individual, endeavors—mutual defense and support are essential.
• Elite Organization: Organize small, smart, motivated minorities—not mass movements; political power will always go to the most organized and self-conscious elite.
• Exit the Regime Morality: Stop caring about the labels and taboos of the regime; act according to the interests of your own family and people.

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & Backgrounds: 01:04–04:57
• The Libertarian/Atheist Critique: 08:20–17:49
• IQ, Social Engineering & Democracy: 17:49–33:02
• Collapse of Community & Suburban Analysis: 39:14–48:00
• Parallel Institutions (“Colony”/Dunbar’s Number): 54:00–65:00
• Religion, Morality, and Law: 90:00–102:00
• Commercial Real Estate & Urban Crisis: 326:48–333:10
• Historical Analysis (Tom Woods’ “Christendom’s Last Stand”): 350:49–471:59

---

Episode Tone & Language

• The tone is candid, direct, polemical—a mix of philosophical seriousness, bluntness, and gallows humor.
• Language is often incendiary, pushing far beyond mainstream Overton window; political correctness is rejected outright.
• Frequent references to dissident right thinkers, Catholic integralism, elite theory, and anti-liberal historiography.

---

Conclusion

This episode is a thorough critique of contemporary American society and its prospects, blending historical revisionism, economic analysis, and communitarian survival strategies. Listeners are encouraged to abandon atomizing ideologies, build strong real-life bonds, and prepare for parallel institutions—while recognizing that power must always be wielded, and that the regime’s enemies are not “rational debate” partners but committed destroyers of the West’s traditional religious and social order.

“Our enemies work together. We need to start doing the same.” (74:13, DE)

---

Transcript

[Dark Enlightenment]

When energy dips. Your reviving routine deserves more than a quick fix. Reach for vital proteins, collagen and protein. Shake in chocolate. With 30 grams of protein and 10 grams of collagen peptides, it helps support healthy hair, skin, nails and joints in a smooth, ready to drink shake. So your afternoon reset actually sets you up for success. Vital proteins stay vital.

[Pete Quinones]

Visit vitalproteins.com to get started. These statements have not been evaluated by

[Dark Enlightenment]

the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose,

[Pete Quinones]

treat, cure or prevent any disease.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I love the little everyday moments with my dog, especially treat time. But dental care, not always so fun. Until we found Greenies dental treats.

[Pete Quinones]

These are more than just tasty. They're vet recommended and designed to support the four areas Vets check the plaque,

[Dark Enlightenment]

tartar, gums and breath.

[Pete Quinones]

Their unique texture cleans down to the

[Dark Enlightenment]

gum line and supports cleaner teeth after

[Pete Quinones]

28 days when fed daily. It's a simple daily habit that supports their health and gives us another moment to enjoy together.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Greenies make health a treat. Shop [e-mail] I want to welcome everyone

[Pete Quinones]

back to the Pete Quinones show for the first time. Someone I've been talking to for a while goes by Dark Enlightenment. How are you doing, sir?

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's a pleasure and an honor to be here. I'm a big fan of your show. I think I first heard of you on an episode of Tom woods and I followed you and I must have listened to 30 peak community shows in a row. Just, oh, and he's got this guy and oh man, I remember that and it was a wonderful discovery and I love your program, man. It's really, really good. And in particular the stuff you've done with Thomas has been just absolutely outstanding. So, you know, good job.

[Pete Quinones]

Thank you so much. Yeah, man, Thomas is a treasure. I mean he needs to be protected at all costs. The information that he has. From now on I'm just gonna, I'm gonna call you de. So De, why don't you tell a little bit about your background.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So I'm in my say, mid to early 40s. Ish. So I was right at that age to be radicalized by 911 and had a brief neocon phase. And then after about 03, when I saw what a rambling disaster everything was turning into, I got turned on to Dr. Paul. And actually, in fact, no, I think I voted for in the 2000 election, I think I voted for the Libertarian party. So I'd been like a, you know, edgy anarchist in high school. Like you know, 97, 98.

[Pete Quinones]

That'd be Harry Brown.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, Harry Brown. And then. And then kind of took a neocon term with the war, obviously, and then then realized that was all BS and got deeply into mold bug in 07. And I started reading Hans. Excuse me. And then kind of was like, wait a minute. Hans just reinvented feudalism.

[Pete Quinones]

What do you mean by that?

[Dark Enlightenment]

You want to clear your.

[Pete Quinones]

Want to clear your throat?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, I just. Sorry, I muted for a second. So Hans Sermon Hopper, right? Like the democracy. The guy that failed, like, blew my mind.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's just.

[Pete Quinones]

Whoa.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And of course, his technical analyses. In fact, I was just listening to your discussion from last year of. Gosh, what was it? One of Hans's articles about, like, practical libertarian. Like the libertarian. For those who say libertarianism is neither left nor right.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But anyway, like. Like a government of property owners that is primarily concerned with the intact family and the patriarchal system. Like, wait a minute, this is just feudalism. And I'm. I'm a right wing Catholic guy, so I was like, well, that's cool. Congratulations. Hans just reinvented, you know, monarchical feudalism. Like the judge of last resort. That's just the king. Okay. Okay, bro, Cool. We monarchists now.

[Pete Quinones]

All right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

And, you know, you go through.

[Pete Quinones]

It's amazing how many people don't see that, you know, Moldbug caught a lot of crap for reading. Reading Democracy, the God that failed and, you know, settling on monarchism, settling on, you know, one. One ruler. The person that makes the exception, who decides the exception. And so many people are like, well, how did he get that? How did he get. Go back. Go read it through that lens and see what you think. Right. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, Curtis, and obviously Curtis is brilliant and your interviews with him have been great, but. And, you know, I kind of got into this via Tom woods, who I still, you know, I've probably listened to, gosh, a thousand episodes of Tom. I mean, you know, hundreds and hundreds at least. And he's still just high quality, brilliant guy.

[Pete Quinones]

I really.

[Dark Enlightenment]

His work on, you know, just wonderful, wonderful stuff. And I think that what you see as the years have gone by is like, there's no such thing as a free market because it's conditioned. Like, oh, well, the free market will take care of this. What free market? We have a banking cabal that runs everything, that effectively sets prices for everything via manipulation of interest rates and manipulation of capital flows, that there's no free market there. So what do you do now? And that ultimately leads to asking, you know, mid 20th century questions, shall we say? And not being as upset with those guys as you've been taught to all your life. And I'll leave that there, but that's basically where I'm at is, you know, if, you know, there's this kind of Catholic idea of distributism, of like making capital as widely spread as possible, but in any kind of conflict, right, like if you have artisanal handmade widgets and the guy who's you're competing against, whether in the marketplace or in a, you know, like an actual war, right, if his widgets are mass produced and they're 80% as good as yours and he can produce a thousand of a day and you can produce 50 of them a day, you're going to get beat, beaten. It's just that there's no other way around it. So you have to do some kind of production at scale, which means, you know, distributism out the window. And then so then what do you do there? And the question then becomes like, okay, which sort of right authoritarian government do you want? And I'm happy with any kind of right authoritarian government. You know, if the ghost of Augusto was to come back, I would do a jig, right? If others along those to sort of line, they're infinitely better than what we have now. And I consider, you know, people who are solid hop, not, not left libertarians because they're just, they're just communists with extra steps. But, but you know, any right libertarian, any monarchist, anyone who's say, quote unquote, on the wrong side of history with the 20th century, they're generally allies of mine and I respect almost everybody who's willing to put in the intellectual work to find the truth out. And my particular interest, I was big into the near reactionary stuff. There's a gentleman by the name of Christopher Alexander, who's a Jewish British architect who had a book that was big in near reactionary circles in 2011 or so called A Pattern Language, talks about land development. And that's kind of, kind of where I went off and down a little bit trail about that kind of stuff. And so I've kind of specialized in that and have done a lot of podcasts about that sort of thing and why the suburb is doomed to fail and why our development pattern is, makes us poor. And it's a deliberate choice and a bunch of other stuff along those lines. But

[Pete Quinones]

that's a lot, yeah, a lot of the stuff that you recommend that I talk about with with Tim from our interesting Times when we were talking about how the suburbs came into existence. Before we jump off on that, did you see it? As I see it, I'm probably going to ask this to every former libertarian I ever talked to, is that a lot of libertarians are atheists. But when you really talk to them, economics is their religion. They honestly believe that, like, economics can cure degeneracy, economics can cure violence, you know, that every, you know, people are violent because, you know, of socioeconomic factors. Basically. Economics can cure war. Every that. If we just had the right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. And for a lot. And for a lot of those things, they're not entirely wrong. And the economics can ameliorate a lot of that stuff. It absolutely can. You know, but once you accept that, a couple things. Not everyone is equal and not everyone wants to be free. So if you've ever been to a libertarian medium, you know, Right. It's literally like, if you're lucky, 10 dudes, but usually like five dudes, all of whom are a little bit autistic, every one of whom has an IQ above 120. And it's like, well, if society was composed entirely of 122, 120 IQ plus, you know, autistic Asian and white men, then, yeah, everything would work great. I mean, no one would ever have any children, but, like, it would be peaceful and everything would be market based and. But that's not the way the world works. And once you accept that, once you have read the Bell Curve or gotten exposure to any of Jerry Taylor's work or, I don't know, dealt with a woman, it just falls apart.

[Pete Quinones]

Oh, you had me right there at the ending. Well, the economics thing is sure. So say that you had hard currency. Always talking about hard currency. There's only going to be 21 million Bitcoin. So is it going to end war? No, it's not. It could end war on a mass scale. It's like what I'm seeing now, to me, the Russia invasion of Ukraine, first of all, to me, it's just the section that they invaded is just Russia invading Russia. I mean, it's just them invading themselves. They just happen to be that part of their country happens to be hostile, be held hostage by somebody else. But I mean, it's literally what we've seen for most of the history of mankind before central banking, when a king actually had to pay for the wars, is you have a local land war. And unfortunately, like a lot of wars in history, it's also a brother's war. But to look at it and Watching everybody clutch their pearls over this, it's like, this is who we are. I mean, if you don't believe in the Whig theory of history where everything's getting better and the progressives are like, everything now is about morality and not about practicality or consequentialism, then you have to look at something like this and be like, okay, sure, economics could stop mass scale wars and endless wars, but you're still going to have things like this because you're still going to have things like Russia going into Ukraine, because

[Dark Enlightenment]

this is who we are,

[Pete Quinones]

right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Human beings have interests and those interests don't always agree. And there's going to be conflicts. You know, it's just what happens. I don't understand what everyone, you know, oh gosh, this is the worst thing ever. You're an American, who cares?

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, if we, you know, if the United States has to go into, you know, Mexico to stop cartels, which they've done, or if, you know, have to go into Canada to basically stop communism, which may have to one day because that's just going to get closer and closer here and just infect us in ways that we won't, we can't foresee. Now then, and I'm kind of kidding about the Canada thing. People just have to really open up their eyes and start and get, get off of this, you know. What's what, Sam?

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, how many times has the United States invaded Haiti? I mean, what, a dozen? Half a dozen?

[Pete Quinones]

A lot. Well, I mean, look, look how much we get from Haiti. Like 10,000 migrants pouring over the border in one day. I mean, they're all going to be

[Dark Enlightenment]

locked lawyers and doctors, Pete, you know,

[Pete Quinones]

like, yeah, like George Fentanyl astronauts. Yeah, exactly what he could have been. Then we can have murals of every place the United States invades. You can. Every place that Globahomo invades and the Gae invades, we'll have murals of Haitians pouring over the border. I mean, people, you know, we're making fun of this now, but this is literally insane. It's literally insane that we have to, we can make jokes about this because this is what exists in reality.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, and this is, this is where libertarians fall apart. Like the, you know, the whole. Libertarians are open borders, like borders are illegitimate, bro. Like, no, the border is just a collective property of, you know, as Hans would say, like the, the net taxpayers. Collective ownership of the borders is, you know, like, it just is, right, you know, like you don't get to invade my house and there's such things as externalities. And so libertarianism deals very poorly with these sorts of things. And again, you know, if. I'm sure you've seen it, but basically, if you have an IQ below a certain threshold, you can't entertain hypotheticals. So Pete, how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?

[Pete Quinones]

Hungry.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, yeah, you can entertain that hypothetical because you're not a moron. But there's substantial populate percentages of the population and those unfortunately are not uniformly distributed across all ethnic groups. Where. But I did eat breakfast this morning. But yeah, but how would you feel if you hadn't? Or, you know, like, they literally can't entertain that hypothetical. Yeah, and in a large numbers of Haitians literally can't entertain that hypothetical of like, what? I didn't. Deep breath. You know, but I did. And so the idea that like they're going to equally compete in a free market that is, I mean, rapidly, you know, low skill labor is being replaced by robots and forced labor, you know, like, and Drudge labor from Spain or not from Spain, but from Hispanic countries. Like, this person's never going to compete, never in a million years. This person is never going to hold a economically viable job. And libertarians, too many of them, well, frankly, they're just wigs, right? Thomas Jefferson, who is in many ways admirable, probably was smoking a little bit. You know, it'd be really cool, man, if everybody was equal and then, oh, you know, yeah, if everyone was like an autistic 170 IQ aristocrat. Yeah, that would work, bro. But look outside, that's not how it works. And, and most people just, most libertarians either they grow up and like, realize that the world isn't that way. And actually, you know, I've used this formulation before only, you know, libertarianism, very Anglo philosophy. Almost no one on the continent actually, you know, believes this sort of stuff. But Hans being an honorable exception, but no one outside of like Hansa territories or maybe Mediterranean mercantile circuit even begins to entertain the idea. But libertarianism is just the natural ideology of armed white guys amongst themselves. So if you're a duke and I'm a duke and we both have our own families and our own arms and our own bros, that with, hey, it's, you know, Pete's giving me a hard time, fellas. Let's, let's go, let's go remind Pete that we have teeth too. And then Pete goes, oh, t's give me a hard time, boys, it's time to go. Saddle up. Then all of A sudden we're, you know, there's 50 guys on either side of this, this line going, do you really wanna. And we're just going, oh, God, you know, that'd be expensive and a pain in the ass, and I might get stabbed. So let's just figure out a way to work this out. And then you do, and you don't interfere because why would I bother you? It's expensive and it's mostly irrelevant. Right, right.

[Pete Quinones]

And there's no one. And there's no one really to profit from it.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right.

[Pete Quinones]

No one's profiting from this.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Exactly. And so the problem is that libertarians want to pretend that everyone's the same and they're just not. And once you accept that libertarianism goes out the window or becomes a suicidal ideology.

[Pete Quinones]

Talking about how people have different IQs, they just can't think. I mean, the way I look at it is they're very programmable. So you have this ideology of all men are created equal. We're going to have basically an open society. And then communism comes along in Europe. It's being formulated, and now it's a coherent ideology. And social engineers, people with high IQs, but who are devious, who are not on our side, take that, and they use it to program the people with the 80 and 90 IQs, because the people with the 80 and 90 IQs are going to be like, oh, yeah, why are those people up there with the 130s and 140s doing so well? Why shouldn't I be more like them? Oh, this ideology tells me that we're all equal and that we should all be on the same playing field. And if those people up there with the 130s and 140s don't agree, we should just kill them. I mean, that sounds. It sounds like that's very historical. And it also sounds like something that most people who are on the libertarian side, or even the conservative side, the civic nationalist side, would not like, yet they defend a system that allows it.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right.

[Pete Quinones]

Well.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And okay, so your Race War in High School series has been both depressing and outstanding. And I have to thank you for turning onto that particular book. It's a gold mine of resources.

[Pete Quinones]

Rose Pinochet saw someone posting about it on Twitter. She pointed out and said, hey, find this book. And I'm like, it's $600. That somebody in the private chat found a PDF of it.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It was.

[Pete Quinones]

And was like, all right, let's. Let's start reading this.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, anyway, but to. Okay, so just use this example. This Neighborhood as an example. Okay, Keep in mind two facts. This is a couple years ago, but, but current. I couldn't, I couldn't find it again if I tried, but I, I, I swear I found a thing that said the average like Black gal was 185 pounds at age 18. Now this was like 2019 or 2018, but reasonably recent number. Okay. Hispanic girls were like 165. White girls were like 140. Asian girls were like 1 10. Okay? So if you have an environment like those Bronx schools where you're told you're equal, you're equal, you're equal. The only thing keeping you down is racism. Every day, by the culture, by the news, by your teachers, everyone, right? And you show up and you're poorer than your white classmates. The white girls are prettier than the black girls. The white girls are skinnier than the black girls. They have intact families. You don't. They, you work lower class jobs than they do. Like if you just have all of these inequities and the only explanation that you have, that you've been told at all is racism, that's, that's just a, it's just a disaster waiting to happen. Whereas if you were honest about these things. Well, no, I mean for these reasons and some biological, some cultural, this, these different outcomes happen, then, then you could, then you could actually come to some sort of modus vivendi maybe, but certainly not, you know, when, when you're told all the time that the only explanation is racism, it just doesn't make, it's just guaranteed to induce violent resentment.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. And that means the social engineers that, it's the social engineers that are doing this.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. And Michael Jones has done some outstanding work on social engineering. And yes, he has a big fan of his work particularly, particularly slaughter cities. But. Right. I mean, just, just think about that for just a second. Okay? If the average girl that you average, we're not talking dead on bag average at age 18 is 185 pounds. And you're constantly exposed to other women from other groups and you're told all the time that, oh, secretly they like your group, but they don't actually. And they're slimmer and they're more feminine and they're, and they bake and they, you know, they do all this other stuff that women are supposed to do. And you're constantly told like, oh no, the reason all of this stuff happened, of course you're going to get this outstanding ridiculous resentment if you're told, oh, you guys are just the Same. The only reason they throw you in jail in mass numbers is this racism. Not. Okay, well, for reasons that are complicated due to biology and absent fathers and this and then the other, whatever. If we had a real academic establishment, right, Supposedly Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge at cold polar technique, University of Chicago, Caltech, right. It's the greatest collection of, you know, brains, knowledge, you know, the great libraries, communications, all of that stuff. If it was all like the modern university system, basically they suck up everybody with an IQ above 130 and they shuffled them into these places. If they were really honest, they'd ask these questions and they'd come to some kind of conclusion of like, okay, well, this is why this happens. And yet it never does. Why, why, why is, you know, there are certain, like, certain people who are all tray with the establishment who've been writing journals for 30 years that should be, you know, high quality academic journals. But those academic journals aren't asking those actual relevant questions because they're more interested in social engineering than they are in finding out the truth. Which is how you get people listening to this program is they're like, well, wait a second, this doesn't sound exactly right. And then they end up down the rabbit hole where they're listening to you and me. So if this lack of truth about key issues across the board causes major problems that are basically intractable, you really have no choice but to like secede from the system. Because the system is not going to let like Pete Quinones on Meet the Press to tell, like you should, you know, you produce a very high quality program. You should be the guy, you know, you know, debating Luke Russert. And you know, Luke Russert's just there because his dad was a good reporter

[Pete Quinones]

one upon a time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, well, and that's specifically where we're at right now. And you know, we can jump into talking about, you know, building, building something parallel to it because it's reached a point where they're just not going to allow it to happen. There aren't going to be dissonant voices, aren't going to be allowed on, you know, you, I mean, I don't believe that Elon Musk is saving Twitter. I think it's going to be, it's going to be a, it's going to be shortly. We're going to see Twitter go back to the way it was. You know, I would like to have one of my old accounts back, but that would be, I mean, I don't even count on that. But what you do see Is you see that people are. The people who are complaining the most about Trump are people who are aligned with the regime, aligned with the regime in charge. And their biggest concern is that anything that goes counter to the narrative is going to be allowed on the platform. And not only counter to the narrative, because there are plenty of us putting information counter to the narrative out there, but people with, you know, large followings, like, you know, Emael Jones is back on Jared Taylor. We'll see if Jared Taylor gets back on there. You know, people who are saying, well, this didn't happen because of the free market. This happened because it was forced upon us. And, you know, and some of them even name names, and that's something that they just cannot allow. Because somebody made the point in a response to Elon Musk was that when right wing opinions are basically normal, they're nature, they come from nature. People who consider themselves to be right wing or mostly normal people. Left wing is so out. Left wing thought, progressive thought especially, is so far out of the mainstream, out of the ordinary, away from nature, that they need other voices to be suppressed so that people can believe that it's the norm.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, no, that's completely true. Like a dude in a dress. It's ridiculous, right? I'm supposed to pretend that Bruce Jenner, like, do y' all remember the 1976 Olympics? This dude won the most difficult. He was the greatest athlete in the world.

[Pete Quinones]

Zakathlon just, it's.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's the hardest thing to do. You have to be good at, like, literally 10 different things and they're. And they're wildly different. He was the greatest athlete in the world as a dude. And I'm supposed to pretend he's a pretty woman now that he's in his 60s. No. You know, Steve Saylor had that, have that, like, nailed, oh, 20 years ago. And he was like, no, this guy's just a narcissist. And he had a whole taxonomy of these people. But because, you know, even knowing the name Steve Saylor is enough to get you in trouble these days, let alone, you know, you know, you don't want to talk about somebody that should be more widely respected. You mentioned Jared Taylor. There's.

[Pete Quinones]

And Steve Saylor is just one of the nicest people he's gonna have. If, if you're debating him, he's gonna be polite. He's. He's just gonna give you the facts. He's not there. He's not a bomb thrower. He's not like me. I mean, he's.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Or me.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah, literally.

[Dark Enlightenment]

He's just literally a sweet guy who likes spreadsheets and doesn't lie. That's all he is. It's like, well, but. But the math says this. It's like, well, yeah, but Steve, that's mean. It's like, well, but the math says. And it's literally just keep going. But, but the math says. But the spreadsheet, like I, I can look into the spreadsheet and see if someone mess with it. But, but you know, basically this is the way it goes. And, and that's all that happened is, is, is you know, those people. And you know, I've made this point elsewhere, but, but it's worth repeating. Basically. Pat Buchana, maybe even anyone, you know, Pat Buchanan was like a normal dude in 1992, right? Heck, even Donald Trump in 2016 was just like Bill Clinton in 1996, right? Anyone to the right of that? So basically all the political history up until, I don't know, 2011, when was the Obergefell decision, right? Like everything up to then is now like in the hate bunker and you're a Nazi, right? Like, if you believe that, like, I don't know, Bruce Jenner is a dude and that children need a family and that it is child abuse to expose children to men in dresses and that people who do things like, like mutilate children should, should it, at a bare minimum face a very steep fine and have those children taken away versus now. Like, you know, in Canada it's normal. Like if you are a parent and you're one of your children gets brainwashed into thinking that the opposite gender, the state will take away your children from you. That's how.

[Pete Quinones]

That's.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's madness. That is madness. And the problem we have is fundamentally conservatives believe in institutions and like, oh, well, you know, like this is. No, no, no, no. At this point, you know, the whole thing is illegitimate. It's a scam, right? It's a scam. I was talking with a relative at Thanksgiving and you know, he's a moderate Republican type and not very happy with the way the post Trump party. And you know, I pointed out like in 08, you know, a bunch of people who were against Bush's wars voted for, you know, a brown socialist who knew lots of, you know, who grew up in Muslim countries. And what did we get? We got a massive bailout. Like Goldman Sachs picked his cabinet and he bombed more people than George W. Bush. I mean, every American president up, you know, my entire lifetime, and I'm in my mid-40s has been a war criminal with the possible exception of Jimmy Carter. I mean, how insane is that? Yeah. Like, they're literally all war criminals. All of them. And you know, oh, Nancy Pelosi just made $100 million for no reason whatsoever.

[Pete Quinones]

Get.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Get out of here. Ridiculous. You know, I've made. The longest serving Republican speaker of the House was Dennis Hastert. And there was a shiny moment there, right after Bush won where there was 55 Republican senators, the House of Representatives, and a conservative Christian president. What did we get as conservative Christians? Oh, wait a minute. Nothing. Nada. Not a Roe v. Wade repeal, not school choice, nothing. Why? Well, because the speaker of the House was a pedophile.

[Pete Quinones]

And neither side will talk about it. Neither side will bring it up if you bring it up. Darrell Cooper from the Martyrmaid podcast said recently he saw someone bring that up

[Dark Enlightenment]

in an interview recently.

[Pete Quinones]

And someone was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that. How do you forget about that? How do you forget that the third in line, you know, the second in line to the presidency was a pedophile?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, I mean, and not just. Not just that, but, I mean, how long has everyone known Paul Pelosi is a closet case? This was not on my 2022 bingo card. I mean, it makes sense, I guess, but like, how compromised are these people who. You know, as our friend Ryan Dawson has done. He's done outstanding work. Who exactly was on that plane? How many people went, you know, have you ever.

[Pete Quinones]

Have you ever read the flight Lux?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, my God.

[Pete Quinones]

It's really creepy. Well, even. Even when you look at the people who are on there, where you'll. One flight will have Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and one female. There's no name. How do you have flight logs where you don't put someone's name on it? All you put is one female. I mean.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

I can't be. I can't be the only one who sees that and is like. The FAA goes. Pours over these light locks.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

And they didn't say, well, what's the name of the female? Okay.

[Dark Enlightenment]

If I want to get in an airplane and go visit you.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

In order to buy my ticket, they have to have my name, my ID number, a credit card with my name on it. That's effectively a second form of id. I get to the airport, they check my ID not once, not twice, but three separate times when I check my bags at security and when I get on the airplane.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah, but if you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And I'm just a dude who's like, Like, I'm, I'm going to Florida to visit my buddy. I'm not some, you know, this is not, this is not some nefarious plot. It's like I'm doing what every American has done. You know, like, I'm going to Florida in January because it's warm and also my buddy lives there. This is not some nefarious, like, I'm going to a private island where lots of really rich people hang out. Like, no, this isn't anything nefarious. And yet, you know, IDs have to be checked multiple times and you know, massive security state needs to come down on you and God forbid you accidentally forget to take out a pocket knife out of your pocket or something like that. But, but Jeffrey Epstein can get on a plane with a female. Come on. You know, and, and so, you know, why, why would everyone pick Trump? Because they were so sick of this system that was obviously screwing them that they picked a bomb thrower. And it turns out that he, he wasn't so great. But that's a whole separate discussion. And so, you know, the system isn't going to reform itself. The system isn't going to save itself. You know, I still in many respects am, you know, that, that libertarian guy that, that, you know, came into this sort of space from like radical Second Amendment prepping type stuff like Western rifle shooters or, or. You know, the high road, you know, gun stuff and Mike Vanderbaugh, things like that. Right. And just to illustrate this one more time, right, so you're old enough and I'm old enough to remember that, that when, oh, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush are buddies or H.W. bush are buddies, they smuggle cocaine into Arkansas and they kill kids. Was like a crazy person thing that you only heard at like 2 in the morning in 1993.

[Pete Quinones]

Like,

[Dark Enlightenment]

like art Bell. Right, right. And then you know what, after it's too late to do anything about it, they make a movie starring Tom Cruise saying, hey, yeah, that get so crazy person was right back in 1994 saying that Bill Clinton and, and you know, it was all KFAB and that these guys actually do smuggle cocaine into Mena, Arkansas. Like, you know, holy. Oh my gosh, you know, like you're admitting. And so this system is going to fall apart because there's the $19 trillion or whatever, $20 trillion or however many trillion dollars of, of US federal debt. There's the same again in private credit card debt and everything else because that's what people have been using to keep ahead or keep Even is they're basically going into debt. But then there's all the unfunded liabilities and it's just not going to get paid, man. It's just not, you know, so the libertarians are completely right about that. The system just is going to fall apart. There's no way, none that this is going to get paid off. So what do you do?

[Pete Quinones]

Right. Because obviously the ballot box, because everything up until now is just complete black pill. And you know, unfortunately people think, especially libertarians are very, very guilty of this as they have their way that they're going to get from A to B, from A to C. Of course they never talk about B, but they're going to get, they're going to get to C. And if you don't 100% agree with the way they're doing it, you're black pilled no matter how many, no matter, no matter how many solutions you're presenting them. So let's talk a little bit about solutions.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, I'm gonna. You're familiar with the consultants triangle. You could have something good. Good, cheap or fast.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. Okay. Well, America or actually rather car dependent societies with adequate amounts of diversity. So you can, this can also apply to Canada and increasingly to places in England and Western Europe. But they force you into a tri limit too. Most people want to live someplace ideally. Right. Ideal world. Pete lives close to work. Someplace that's affordable and someplace that's safe.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Your ideal world is like if you have to work for somebody else, you roll out of bed at 6:45, you grab a cup of coffee and a shower, you walk downstairs and it's a three blocks walk to your, you know, nice office. You walk home at lunch and you know, you walk home. So get a little bit exercise. You don't really have to spend any time out of your day and it's not that bad. And it's safe and you know the rents. Yeah. You know, a thousand bucks a month, something reasonable. Well, you've, you've lived in New York City, you've lived in Atlanta, you've lived in other places. That's not how it works at all.

[Pete Quinones]

Right. Like not, not at all. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like so in New York, New York is a great example. There are really wealthy places in New York that are really safe, really, really safe. No problem whatsoever. They're going to cost you probably at like a bare minimum, 450, $500,000 a year to live there.

[Pete Quinones]

Sure, absolutely.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So you've got to have a huge amount of money. Right, Right. So and then you can't really do anything against the system because if you speak out too vociferously about something, you could lose that job, that 450, $500,000 year job that enables you to live on the Upper west side and have your nice easy commute into the final district and make huge amounts of money. So you destroy your life. If you say anything too interesting or too true in that sort of situation, then you have someplace like Atlanta where most people choose someplace they can afford and someplace that's safe, particularly if you're, like, married and have kids. You do not want your children going to, you know, the race war in high school, school where there's a pretty decent chance that your kid's going to get stabbed on its way to the bus. You just, you're just not going to do that. And so you get Atlanta traffic, which, you know, I mean, for goodness sakes, it's. It's like people are commuting from four states into Atlanta. They're, you know, eastern Tennessee. I, A friend of mine, northern Alabama,

[Pete Quinones]

a friend of mine who worked, who lived outside of Atlanta, you know, lived more rural, but worked in Atlanta. But worked in Atlanta. We sat down and did the math on it one time, and he spends almost two months a year in his car

[Dark Enlightenment]

going back and forth to work.

[Pete Quinones]

Yes. I mean, that's not a, that's not a life.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No, no, it's, it's, it's insane. And in fact, I mean, that's why this whole, this whole thing exists. The phenomenon of the podcast is

[Pete Quinones]

someone

[Dark Enlightenment]

who is reasonably intelligent said, if I hear this freaking Journey song one more time, I'm gonna lose my mind. And so the podcast was born. So you've got your buddy probably goes through an audio, like a big. Like he could go through War and Peace on his daily commute in like a month, you know, like in two weeks, you know, like at one time speed, we're not talking to dude who listens at two and a half or 20 speed with skip, silence and the whole, you know, speeding everything up. We're talking about a dude who's like listening at one time speed going, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Like, he's gonna go through that entire book, thousand pages, and it's better than welcome to the Fox 100.7, where we still pretend it's 1978 and you still have hair, you know, like, it's better than that. And that's hellish, you know, And I suppose I do, the extent that I have any notoriety at all, it's because I have done the podcast thing. And so I suppose I should be grateful that there's all these people who are stuck in traffic listening to me, but it's insane. It's absolute madness. And then once, once he gets home, right, you've got these suburbs that are organized along this. This kind of cul de sac street pattern. There's no central square, there's no pub for him to stop by after work. One of the best things about living in the big city, right, is you had a regular bar where you could go grab a drink after work and then walk home. Well, you know, the only, only quote unquote collective place where this guy has anything is a mall. And if he starts talking about how they're all getting screwed and it's ridiculous that they're spending two months a day, you know, two months out of the year in his car, and, and he hates it, and he never sees his family, and he only has one kid because he doesn't even have time to, you know, like, talk to his wife, let alone have more kids, you know, whatever. All the, all these legit, real grievances this friend of yours has. He's gonna get trespassed out of the mall. So there's no public space. There's no way to organize. There's no, I mean, you know, and of course, because since it's not walkable, since everything requires a car, you know, if you want to have a meeting with 500 people, where are you going to find a parking lot with 500 spaces? You know, so that makes it impossible to organize. Or you could have that other option where it's affordable and it's close to work, but you're going to get stabbed. How do, how do you organize in, you know, race war in high school neighborhood? You knock on the doors, you know, hi, I'm Mr. Canones. I'm your neighbor. You know, this, this thing is happening and we're getting screwed, and, you know, they're going to destroy the neighborhood. You know, you might get some, some people interested. Odds are pretty good, though, you know, if you do that for a week straight, you're going to get stabbed or robbed. So you're not gonna, you're not gonna organize. You can't, because there's no coherent community and it's mutually hostile. So we have this trilemma of you can't organize because it would cost you your job that, you know, cost you the very nice life. I mean, it would be very nice to make you know, $500,000 a year and live on Upper west side and have a chauffeur and all that other stuff, make huge amounts of money, private planes, the Bahamas, whatever. You know, if you have a family like your poor, poor buddy who's spending, you know, a month and a half or two months in the car every, you know, that's no life either. How's, how's he, he's getting screwed. And, but how's he gonna organize with people? There's nowhere, there's nowhere to organize. It's been deliberately set up that way. And then lastly, you know, you could, you could move into, you know, the old neighborhood that you grew up in, it's diverse, and start rabble rousing, but there's a pretty good chance you get shot. And so under present conditions, there's just no way to fight back. So how do you secede? Because that's the only option you've got. And that's where I think something like a colony makes sense. And, you know, Covid might be the thing that broke these people. Just, just like the Internet was like, oh, well, this will be, this is a cool project and DoD is going to do a bunch of stuff with it and we'll be able to send orders and invented a nuclear holocaust. It'll be great. You know, the Internet, Internet might be what breaks the system, but this, this Covid tyranny, as bad as it was. And I gotta thank you personally for being very strong on this one. You know, you're, you're.

[Pete Quinones]

That's really what took me. It's really what made me start reading outside of libertarianism and going, yeah. I mean, not only does libertarianism not solve this problem because they don't have the power to or the will to. They're being openly mocked. And I don't mind being mocked if I know I'm wrong, if I know I'm right. But I looked at what they were saying and it's like, well, yeah, yeah, that's one problem. And one of the biggest problems I had with libertarianism is I can't remember who I heard say it, but they said if you believe that your ideology is an ideology that's going to stop war, increase human flourishing, and basically be a thousand times better than what we have now. And you're not doing everything in your power to make it happen in the real world, then you're immoral. You're immoral. I mean, look at the progressives. I mean, the progressives are completely anti human, but they're doing it. They Believe what they believe. They're like, okay, this is for all of mankind, and this is how we go forward into the future. And they're making it and they're kicking our butts.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And so I just got to say that, you know, like, you're fourth. You know, like, your willingness to stand up against this and not say, well, but my private company or whatever, nope, nope, this is inhuman. It's evil. It's terrible. Here I stand. I can go no further. You know, I really appreciate that. That's. It's. We need more people who are willing to do that. And I got to give Tom Wood some credit, too. He's been outstanding about this sort of issue. But regardless, the remote work revolution, okay, a couple of things are going to happen because of this that I just. We're not even going to see the full effect until probably next year, the year after. First of all, those big office towers, they're never going to be full again.

[Pete Quinones]

Never.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, the commercial real estate is going to take a hit like you wouldn't believe. And the margins were thin enough that, you know, taking a 5, 10, even a 15 or 20 hit is going to make a lot of people lose a lot of money. Property taxes, sales taxes, those are all down significantly. I don't know if they'll ever recover. So that's a lot of the benefits of, like, living in the big city. Like, those are going to go away. And this digital revolution, you know, like, between Netflix and, like, decent craft beer available at every store, why would you need to go down, right? Like, you've got a television the size of a wall that is, like, if that's your thing, like, the football players are taller on your TV than they are in real life. And these guys are all, you know, 6, 6, 300 pounds. And, you know, for. For a thousand dollars, you can go down to Best Buy and you can get a television that's that, you know, the size. Size of a movie screen. I mean, I think that's a really bad use of your time, but if that's. If that's you, I guess, go for it. So, right. We have all these options now where life can be lived more privately. And not only can it be lived more privately, circumstances are going to force you to live it more privately. You know, we're having this massive diesel shortage. Well, America runs on diesel trucks. If you've ever been on the highways at 2 in the morning, there's nothing but truckers and, you know, people with odd things going on. Well, those. Those places aren't going to those car dependent suburbs where everything is delivered to Walmart at 2 in the morning by a diesel powered, you know, big rig. That's not going to last. What it's going to last. And James Howard Kunstler's talked about this quite a bit, is, you know, that revivifying America's small towns. If you've got a small town with like a railhead or on some kind of river, you're gonna be able to still get food cheap, right? You know, food is bulky and you absolutely have to have it. So it's pretty unique in terms of logistics and stuff. You know, you need it on a fairly constant basis. It's bulky. You know, you're going to have to move to places that enable you to have to not be dependent on diesel as much as say, you know, the outskirts of Atlanta are. And this remote work revolution is going to let you do that. I'm going to sketch out a couple things that I think, I think would be good ideas. Find a small, first of all, find some bros. You know, find four or five or six trustworthy families where you're like, okay, these people know the score and they're willing to help prep and you know, like they're on the same page. They're not going to get jabbed. You know, if someone's, if someone's going to get jabbed, they'll, they fold it on their family, they'll fold on you. I wouldn't trust them, honestly. They believe the regime narrative that they're, they're never going to. That's a separate discussion. Okay, so you find some people that are trustworthy and, and not like a commune sort of thing because that, that'll devolve. But, but you do a couple things in common. All right, all the guys should be lifting. So maybe you get half a dozen guys and you throw up one of those like sheds that, you know, Best buy sells for $10,000, everybody throws a couple grand in and you throw in three grand for weights. You know, when you get a really nice weight setup and you know everyone's paying $100 a month anyway for gym membership, so you cancel that. Everyone pulls in the $500 a month and in two years you've paid for your gym and you've got this structure that's, that's mostly paid off and you know, it's 6 o' clock every morning, everybody's working out all right, everyone's in good shape. It's a capital good that everybody owns. You get the building. Well, you know, there's pretty nice ones out there. These small little or maybe a pre manufactured steel building. I don't know what they cost anymore. It's been a while since I costed one of those out. But you've got this space and you know, all five guys, you know, everybody's got two kids, so there's 10 kids. And maybe Jimmy's wife is, she's a school teacher but she doesn't like what, what's been going on with you know, the CRT and the schools and

[Pete Quinones]

you

[Dark Enlightenment]

know the state's going to give you 1500 bucks a person, 1500 bucks a kid to homeschool. So 10 kids, 1500 bucks. It's $15,000. Your school teacher salary was you know, 25. But she doesn't need the second car with the car insurance and she's got

[Pete Quinones]

more time at home.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And all of a sudden Jimmy's wife is teaching, you know, at the Hoppy and Academy, you know, in your weight room upstairs. And, and maybe, you know, Timmy's wife is able to do a couple different subjects or whatever, you know. And your point about the home schools being, you know, taken over by people who are being outnumbered by public school kids is well taken. I'm just, you just can't put your kids in public school right now if you don't.

[Pete Quinones]

And I've said that over and over again, I'm like yeah, homeschool, but that's not going to be, that's not going

[Dark Enlightenment]

to save the future, right? Well, lo and behold, right, you know, five days a week it's like the weight room at 6 o' clock and by 7:30 it's the school and maybe two of you guys have, you know, remote jobs where you get a laptop job where you can just go into your office, you know, and maybe you guys build an office, you know, another one of these shed type places. And you build an office with, you know, decent Internet and it's quiet

[Pete Quinones]

and

[Dark Enlightenment]

you know, a couple of the, a couple of, one of the guys, a couple of the guys get like one of those big panel vans and they commute into the nearest or near a small town. Or you're in a small town and you're able to, you know, have a couple guys working in the nearby small town for not much wages but, but enough to keep a roof over their head. But you know, they end up knowing a farmer and you guys buy it, do a group buy of a cow, right? So our society is fake, fake rich. You know, we're not as you know, you've probably been reading about the coming collapse of the dollar for the last 25 years like I have. And all those critiques have been accurate. You know, that just managed to keep the system going through fiat and central banking and frankly the band of the US military and the world's financial back. But all of that stuff is still true. So if you have this alternative system where everyone goes in on a cow together, you have a relationship with that farmer and maybe you can have, maybe you do something like, I don't know, got a couple IT guys and you'll maintain his spreadsheets for him in exchange for a deal on the beef.

[Pete Quinones]

Or

[Dark Enlightenment]

maybe your guys that are working in town are able to collectivize certain things like driving together. Maybe everyone does the extreme coupon anything. Maybe everyone goes to Costco at the same time, one of these big vans. But, but we're not as rich as we think we are. And so things like heating water might seem some relatively boring, but up until the 20th century, really heating water wasn't an individual activity. It was a communal activity. Laundromats were a thing because heating, getting water hot is really energy intensive, really energy intensive. And so heating 100 gallons of water collectively was much more efficient than 10 people heating 10 gallons of water to do laundry. And so things like laundry and bathing were collective activities up until the 20th century in America. And because we're not as rich as we think we are, a lot of those sorts of things are going to have to come back. So maybe you get a couple speed queens

[Pete Quinones]

and

[Dark Enlightenment]

in the gym you've got power hookups for laundry and you do, everyone just does their laundry in the speed queen. People are going to have to understand that, you know, whatever, whatever else is going on, CRT in the schools, obvious mental incapacitated in, in the, in the White House Congress being a complete joke. I mean, it's been a complete joke my entire life. But you know, it's still even more of a joke now, right? That doesn't stop you from doing what's necessary in your own private life. And people need to stop caring. So I mean, pay attention to it. Just, just like you pay attention to, you know, a rabid dog that's chained up across the street. Pay attention to it, but don't make that the focus of everything you're doing, you know, so if there's things you can do to make yourself collectivize, maybe, maybe one of the guys, you know did a couple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and he can help you guys learn all learn how to Shoot, maybe you've got enough land that, you know, you can put a couple cows on it and all of a sudden you got a security shack. And everyone does, you know, if there's 10, 10 guys, maybe each guy does one night a week where he's just gonna have to suck it up. And he does, you know, he gets home at 5, grabs a bike, he takes a nap, and from midnight to, you know, or, you know, 11 to 6, he's in the guard shack. Maybe, maybe those 10 families, all of you guys get together and purchase playground equipment for your kids. And it's behind a nice tall fence so there's no one who's trying to grooms your kids, who's, you know, checking out the playground. But, you know, our enemies kick our butts. Not because they're better than us, they're obviously not. I mean, they're pathetic weirdos. They kick our butts because they work together and we need to start doing the same. I mean, that's really what people need to do.

[Pete Quinones]

De you don't believe in individual liberty?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Liberty is a mutual contract between men who agree to respect one or two other's property rights. In order to have liberty, you have to have a manner bundle. It has to be, has to be mediated in order, in order to, you know, have liberty has to be defined within certain limits. I don't think, I don't think, you know, individual liberty extends so far as the ability to sexually abuse children. And I think that that should be stopped. So, no, I do not believe in individual liberty as some people would believe it.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, the ideas that you're throwing out here, they're very basic. I mean, I even have, I mean, I can go further, start approaching Dunbar's number and I mean, you can have your own finance, you can have your own banking, you can do what the Jews have been doing for how many thousands of years and basically exclude everybody else from your profits from what got.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, for them. They run everything.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean, if you have 120 people and somebody wants to start a business and it's going to cost $50,000 and 100 of those people give up $500 of their own money, that person doesn't have to go to the bank now, that person can start the business, has the money to start the business, and $500 for a brother in the community, I'm not even going to expect to see that money back. Maybe if it's a service, if it's an H Vac company and I need some H Vac work done I'll pay for the parts, we'll take care of the labor. You can do things like that. But keeping money in the community, being insular like that, I mean, these are things people don't even think about, which can actually be done. And it doesn't have to operate like the Branch Davidians, where you're all living in the same house. You could just be living in the same general area.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No. Well, so I know you've heard this before, but have I explained. Do you think I need to make the whole why the suburbs are doomed explanation real quick, or do you think.

[Pete Quinones]

Do you think Tim did a good job?

[Dark Enlightenment]

I think he did an excellent job. Everyone should listen to that show.

[Pete Quinones]

But.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But briefly, do it real quick.

[Pete Quinones]

Do it real quick, briefly, as I possibly can.

[Dark Enlightenment]

There are blocks on Manhattan where there's more economic activity in that one block than whole countries elsewhere in the world. So putting in things like fiber and sewer and whatever is cheap, you can skim just a fraction of a percentage off the top, and they can have all the nicest stuff with absolutely no real problem to the. To the running of that particular block. And big cities work that way by having just so much stuff going on that a little tiny percentage for things like streets and sewer and water and Internet and what have you. Easy farms and small towns work by concentrating all the stuff in one spot. So no one cares about the back 40 having really sweet Internet or really good, you know, water pressure. It just doesn't matter because there's no water pressure out there. You put a barbed wire fence up and that's it. And all the resources of that farm kind of flow to that house. So if the suburbs require immense amounts of pipe in streets and everything, but there's no return on investment, there's no capital accumulation in that suburb. It's just a pure deadweight loss. And the episode that Tim did with Pete was excellent, and I encourage everyone to listen to that. But basically, there's no. There's no way that house pays you back.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, in Peachtree Acres, outside of Atlanta, if it wasn't for the fact that people just say that this house is worth $350,000, what about that house makes it worth $350,000? Is there, like a really great farm attached to it where you're going to grow food? Is there a business underneath the apartment that, you know, returns money? Is it an apartment in a building that's full of apartments that you, you know, you own? Is there, is there some sort of capital return to owning that house or is it pure debt, a bit lost? Because in order to get food there, you have to have a truck that delivers food to the local Walmart and you have to drive your suv, you know, from the house on Peachtree Acres to Walmart and bring food back. And, you know, there's very little return on investment in any one of these places. And so that's why they're fundamentally not a place that can sustain itself because it's just a net capital outflow all the time. And as, as things get tighter, that those margins are going to get smaller. So we need to find ways and places that return capital to us. And even, even if it's just like I'm not paying out anymore for food and it's staying internal. And this is why that laptop job is so important, right? Because then you can have that, you know, that source of capital from outside that comes in in substantial numbers to circulate internally. And once that money comes in, it shouldn't go back out again. So is the H Vac guy going to make as much as the laptop guy? Probably not. But what he can do is he can do all the H Vac for all the different guys who are working laptop jobs and he can make a decent living, you know, maybe doing H Vac and then be a little plumbing or what have you. Within this Dunbar's neighborhood community, maybe there's a guy who's the farmer, who has 20 head of cattle and every year everyone just gets their cattle from that guy. And as you accumulate capital, not only are you building trust and internal relationships, but you're not constantly paying out

[Pete Quinones]

and

[Dark Enlightenment]

you think about how much time you would get back. Let's, let's just use this hypothetical example of this gym that's put up in this pre manufactured steel building or one of these, you know, shed type places. Okay, well, maybe the homeschool outros, you get a new building, but upstairs there's, you know, a couple of couches, some nice lights and you know, a good bunch of bookshelves and everything Hans hermanhappa ever wrote, it's just sitting there. And then you guys got a library. You've got a base book library for all the fellas in the community. Oh, hey, you know, and everybody, rather than everyone having to have copies of, you know, Democracy that got the fail me, there's five copies. And you know, Wednesday night, instead of watching hockey, not the hockey, you know, sad the way the NHL has gone woke, I was, I, I would, I had hopes that the NHL would stay above it, but Maybe you guys all read Democracy the guy that fails. Or maybe everybody reads AA's book, you know, and, you know, if you have 120 families, right, that's enough to buy a politician at the state house level or at least rent one. And. And you can do that, you know, if you cooper. And maybe you could get things like homeschooling pushed. Maybe you could get something like, you know, actually, the state's going to pay, you know, the state pays $10,000. Say, for ease of math, the state pays $10,000 per student for public schools. We're just going to give that $10,000 to the families. All of a sudden, if you have five kids in school, your wife's making 50 grand. Now a bunch of that's going to get used on piano lessons and karate lessons and math textbooks and all that other stuff. But she doesn't need to work anymore if she's getting paid to raise your kids. And before the libertarians say, oh, that's immoral to use state money to. Look, dude, your enemies use state money to. To convince children that they're the opposite sex and then use state resources to mutilate them. Either. Either use the stick in front of you or get used on you. I'm sorry, that's just the way it goes. I mean, you had that one meme that was hilarious, but also painfully true of like, you know, the spike baseball bat of state power, right?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. And the tranny picks it up and slams it and crushes the head of the guy with the ancap shirt on. Because the guy with the ancap shirt on is so morally. So morally consistent, while half of them are. Over half of them are atheists. So they're hanging on to this morality that has no basis in reality. But, yeah, they get to remain consistent. They get to keep their identity. And the in group doesn't make fun of them for being a statistic. Yeah, that's all of that. That's so. That sounds so much better than actually thriving and having a prosperous life and taking care of your family. You got to wonder if. And you got to wonder how many of these people who are like this, the ace, are kissed to the world. They don't have families. What happens when I have people who contact me all the time and they're like, yeah, I used to think just like, you know, just like these ideologues on Twitter up until the time I had kids, and then I was like, okay, I will do. I will do ungodly things to protect them.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And you should. Yeah, and you're not doing, you know, you're not being immoral. Taking money from a system that spreads usury, sodomy and abortion all over the world. I mean, that's what USA stands for. Look at what they're doing in, in the World cup right now, right? Like, not, you know, the importance. Isn't like the sport of soccer or the little global community come together and enjoy this sport together. No. What, what are they doing? Like, they're making it all about Qatar is mean to the gays. How is that my problem? Yeah, why do I care? What? Don't go. Don't, don't know.

[Pete Quinones]

You know, it's like they'll always say things like, oh, well, don't. Don't put your money into it. You know, if I'm going to boycott Netflix had cuties on, so I'm not going to give money to Netflix anymore. Well, if you're so upset about the country of Qatar and the way they treat whomever, whatever is the choice minority this week, then don't participate. But their ego can't allow it. They just can't. And then they go there and they want to make a spectacle of themselves and, and you know, maybe they get caned like, like Singapore does. I mean, they'll get thrown in a nice, you know, prison cell where they get buggered. Well, maybe you shouldn't have went, you know, sorry.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And that, and that right there is why you lose, right? Because they're willing to go to Qatar and make a mess and be obnoxious and. Absolutely. And they have the full backing of the, you know, the State Department and probably half the DoD. And so if you see a chance to get a W right out there and get a bunch of money. The teachers unions are basically just money laundering operations for the Democratic Party, right? So any dollar you take from the public school system is a dollar that is not being actively used for evil. Even if you just burned it, it would be a better use of your money than letting the public school systems have it. And you got to start thinking like that, right? Like, like any amount of money that goes to Monsanto out of your pocket is money going towards evil. Any amount. Like, so find the local guy, right, and get your beef from him, get your veggies from him. You know, everyone should have a garden, you know, things, things like that. And we have all the knowledge in the world, you know, basically at our fingertips. So, you know, I guarantee you there are people listening to this right now that have a thousand ebooks on all kinds of Subjects, how to farm, how to, you know, build. I do, you know, a lot. I haven't actually done full counting, but you know, a lot. And, you know, let's get those libraries shared. Let's get, you know, like, storage is effectively free. Why can't you just build a local server and have your own Netflix? Call it Freedom Flex. Call it, you know, the neighborhood. You know, we've got, you know, we got all the good old movies on there. There's a legit copy. It's just, oh, hey, look, Boom. Hey, guys, you want to watch, you know, Godfather tonight? All right, we got it for free. You know, if that's. You could. You could collectivize all this stuff, you know, and it doesn't have to be, you know, this gigantic thing that costs tens of millions of dollars. You can start with something as simple as a gym. You know, if one of your guys has a garage that he's not using very much. And all of you guys are paying $50 a month, and there's four of you. Just start as small as possible. You got a group of four guys, they're each paying $50 a month for a gym. That's $200 a month. The nicest gym setup you've ever seen in your life is maybe $4,000 after inflation. So for three years, you take that $50 a month and you've got that gym setup paid off. And all of a sudden, you're working out together, and, you know, there's four of you, and maybe you commute to work, but it's, you know, three days a week. At 5:30 in the morning, you're in Jimmy's garage, and Jimmy, Pete, Tim and Phil are getting their pump on, and they're talking about, oh, you know, well, this is what, you know, one of the ways that we've been robbed. And I briefly mentioned this, but just common spaces and ability to talk to each other and say, you know, what's going on? How much of. How much of, you know, the. The knowledge that's, you know, the red pill stuff that has kind of become a thing in the last 15 years. How much of that stuff was just common knowledge 100 years ago, you know, that you've been robbed of? And all of a sudden, you know, like, yeah, well, you know, Pete. Pete. Pete pays attention to this stuff. So, you know, in between sets, Pete's going, you know, guys, this is what's going on. And then why didn't hear that on NPR's. The NPR is going to lie to you, man. That's what they do. And then lo and behold, three days later the guy reads about FTX and going, oh, dude, Pete talked about that. And you have this chance to build a community and knowledge and relationships that enable you to live a better life. Ultimately, the whole point of this exercise is so that our people live better lives. I mean, right now there's a lot of downside risk, but increasingly there's not going to be any upside in the system. And so how do you head that off at the path? How do you, how do you live better lives inside, you know, and you start doing it by collectivizing little stuff like this. And I, I'm not so, so arrogant as to think that I know all the different ways that this, you know, that you could improve your life depending on where you are with your physical geography, your resources and all that stuff. I, I don't know, you know, maybe there's a small creek by your house and you guys build a small scale hydroplan. All of a sudden electricity bills go down by 2/3. That can be done out of, you know, an old washer, you know, but you be thinking about these sorts of things because the system as it's pertinently presently constituted is doomed to failure.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I think most people know that and yeah, I don't, I don't know how much I expect it to, you know, just like fall apart. I mean, things like this can keep

[Dark Enlightenment]

going for a while.

[Pete Quinones]

They're just going to get weaker and weaker. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And more dangerous.

[Pete Quinones]

More dangerous and more dangerous as they get weaker and weaker.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Well, so like I'll give you an example. Like the Jackson, Mississippi water crisis. Right. Like we all know why that happened. But, but this is an example of, of know, the system just not working anymore. This is a collapse. You know, cities like if you go bankrupt personally. Right. Like Pete's Diner and Hash sh. You know, hash joint where he serves eggs and bacon and hash browns, you know, gets, gets destroyed in Covid. And Pete says, well, I, I'm bankrupt and I'm going to do something else. Now that, you know, that diner joint, it'll be, you know, Muhammad's Falafel Place because there's a commercial kitchen with seating and stuff and someone else will take it over and you know, the resources will get reallocated and, and you'll lick your wounds and go do something else. Places don't go bankrupt like, oh, well, we're just going to fold up Jackson, Mississippi and move somewhere else. No, it's just going to get worse in Jackson it's just like it's going to go bankrupt by not providing things like water, like sewer, like traffic enforcement, like it, like as. As they let lose ability to do certain things, they're just not going to get done. And that's going to make things really difficult in some places and present a bunch of opportunities and others. And, you know, depending on where you are in your circumstances, those things are going to change. But you're seeing. You're seeing that collapse already happen. So like Memphis, for instance. Memphis tripled in size, physical size. Like, you know, it went from, you know, one sheet of paper size to three sheets of paper sized while maintaining the same population because that's how much people spread out from 1970 to, like 2010. And it just. It's just falling apart because there's not enough people there to maintain that. That level of infrastructure as these, you know, the sprawl kind of comes out, it just. It's inherently fragile and it doesn't return on investment. So you know that where you live and how you live, the circumstances are going to change for each individual person. So I don't have. I don't have like a this is what you need to do prescription. But I mean, I just think about that. Like, is. Is. Is living, you know, two months out of year in your car a sane way to live? Or is he gonna take like a pay cut of, you know, $20,000 and work laptop job. Yeah. And be like, oh, well, I'm never. I'm never driving anywhere ever again in my life. You know, I'm gonna spend time with my wife and my kids.

[Pete Quinones]

Unfortunately, when I lived in the Atlanta area, in order to do that, in order to not spend that two months out of my year in a car, I actually moved closer to the city so that I would have. Even if I worked in the city, it'd be a shorter drive. But I went and found a job outside of the city so I never had to deal with. While somebody who was coming in the opposite direction, driving the same distance would be in their car an hour. I was in my car 10 minutes. So getting out of it, I solved one problem and introduced another. So really, the only way to solve those problems is to get the hell out of cities and get that laptop job. It really is. I mean. And I mean, at this point, I talked to a lot of people who would rather make less money and live somewhere where they didn't have to deal with all of this, then keep making the kind of money they're making. Being close to a City and just getting out. I mean, I'm in a fairly, I'm in a college town right now with one tenth of the population of the Atlanta area. But I mean, we're looking at something that's 5% of the population than where I am right now. So it's just trying to get smaller and trying to get smaller and smaller while being able to still be able to drive to a hospital pretty quickly and possibly get to an airport within two hours.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, and those are all calculations Digital is going to have to make. And you know, as long as that small town is like near a railhead or on a navigable body of water, who cares? Right? Because you know, a lot of, a lot of those places actually have been ignored. You know, the upstate New York canal network is basically just, just a tourist trap now. But at one time it was the, the vital economic heart of America. You know, if you think about it, the Mississippi Basin goes from navigable from Great Falls, Montana to Pittsburgh and a substantial way up in Nebraska. There's a, there's an, actually a port in Oklahoma that goes down to the Gulf of Mexico between that inland ocean of the Great Lakes that goes literally halfway across the continent. You have incredibly cheap water transportation between the Erie Canal and all these other places. So as long as you're on something, as long as you're near something that's got like rail or water transport, that's the place that's going to thrive in the future is all these places that are utterly dependent on diesel trucking and highways. You know, if the highways fall apart and aren't really well maintained, those big trucks don't fare very well. When the roads aren't well maintained, they break really quickly. And that, you know, if the truck can't get to your Walmart because the roads are so bad, your Walmart's going to empty really damn fast. So, so find one of these places that's not so dependent on, on the way things got built from 1960 to, you know, 2010 or 2008 and start building these alternatives. Half the battle is knowing you have a problem. If you're listening to this program, you're sufficiently self aware to realize that things are not well in the kingdom of Denmark. And I hope I've given you some tools to evaluate where you live and how you live so that you can actually get a positive return on investment. Is $20,000 a year worth all that time in the car? It wouldn't be to me. You know, it's certainly not any kind of, you know, your health goes down, you know, down rapidly. You're eating nothing but McDonald's and, you know, Taco Bell and you're not spending any time. You know, how do you. How do you even, you know, have a social life? How do you have friends? How do you have, you know, let alone a family?

[Pete Quinones]

So.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And that's pretty typical all over America. You know, it's not just, not just Atlanta. I mean, Atlanta is particularly bad, but that's Los Angeles and that's Seattle and that's. That's Houston, Texas, and, you know, Orlando, Jacksonville, you know, there's a lot of these places. They're all terrible like that. And they're all, they're all designed, not just, you know, designed to make you politically impotent and suck your life away. And as much as. As much fun as podcasts are, that they're not really much compensation for just spending 10 hours a week in the car.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. And.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Or 20.

[Pete Quinones]

And just. And also, just because somebody has a podcast doesn't mean that they're not doing things in real life. Just letting, you know. Just not going to let you know what those of us who are smart enough, even those of us who have been stupid enough to use their real names, they're not going to let you know what we're doing in real life. So I understand if I make a comment and someone's like, hey, you don't know what I'm doing in real life, and I'll be like, well, maybe we talk privately and compare some notes, but people need to get off the Internet and start doing things in real life. That's what I've been doing for the past. Took the time this week to really look towards trying to improve my situation. Situation with the ones I love. So I appreciate this message. I've had a white paper on what a colony would look like for a while now and just haven't really shown some friends. And they've liked it and everything, but it was. Did I.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Are we sympathetic on that? Is there anything I missed?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're pretty damn close. Yeah, I mean, I have a little more. A little more detail, like the thing I mentioned about finance and things like that. But, yeah, you know, it's. You know, it's one of those things that I'm going to clean up one of these days. I stole it from somebody else and I just. It was shared with me from another group, from a telegram group, and I was like, oh, well, I'm going to rework this. And, you know, you know, Rework some of the language here, fix some of the spelling and everything. But yeah, so, and.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And I mean, obviously, you know, men. Men collectively, men, you know, from Vladivostok to Lisbon, this European development pattern of Dunbar's number of worth of villages and then neighborhoods and towns that were that same Dunbar's number and then that, you know, the iterative process of camps to villages, to towns, to small cities, to big cities. You know, like always, you know, the neighborhood stayed at Denver's number size. This is how people were meant to live. You can look at Alexander and you could see that same pattern from all the way from Vladivostok, Russia, to Lisbon, Portugal, and even into all the way up to, say, Chicago in the United States. The older cities are like this. You're going to be happier, you're going to be healthier. There's going to be a lot better things in your life. And you don't have to start with this, you know, huge thing again. It could start with something as small as the gym. It could start with something as small as, you know, one of you guys has a van and your wives get together and you all go to Costco where you split a quarter of a cow from a farmer. It doesn't have to be, you know, all of these things. Ideally it would be, this is how people are meant to live. This is how God created us to live. But it could start small. And once you get the ball rolling, you just see how much better things certain things are. So go do that.

[Pete Quinones]

Alexander had an imperium, but he also had small imperiums within the imperium. And that can. That's the way this needs. It looks like it's going to need to be built. It's going to be a need to be built from small and push its way out. And I think that's really the only way, the only way out of this at this point, absent a Caesar. And I don't. I don't even know that a Caesar who was willing to do what needed to be done could actually get done what needed to be done at this point. Because the snake has. The snake doesn't even have a head. So it makes a hydra look.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Look uncomplicated. You know, I mean, there's, you know, there's a million and one different labors of power, and we control almost none of them. And, you know, and you might not think so, you know, those laptop jobs, right? So if you're living somewhere techie, right, and you're making 200 grand a year doing tech stuff in Austin, Texas or, or Silicon Valley or Seattle or Boston or something. And you say, you know what? I'll take a hundred and I'll take a $50,000 a year pay cut. If you let me work remote and you move to rural Iowa, that $150,000 goes 10 times farther than it would in Boston.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean 100%. It's just being. What are you willing to do in order to not only make your life better, but the lives of the people you care about, the people under your stead? It's just, and I just don't know how anyone can live in a big city at this point. And even if they're making incredible money and think that it's sustainable, it just seems you'd have to be blind to it, especially people who think like we do. I think you'd have to be blind to it at this point. And yeah, people are going to have to drop that individual liberty thing and come together and understand that you can have your individual liberty in your house, but you're going to have to come together with people to protect that individual liberty and you're going to have to sacrifice a little bit of it. Hapa even talks about that. Hoppa even talked about it when he talked about his covenant communities. Was, you're going, go ahead.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Can I just hit on that for just one second?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. Liberty as such and you know, like you've listened to, you know, Glenn Beck or whatever. He used to be pretty good. Someone, someone took him to the top of mountain and showed him what's up and he, you know, he calmed down quite a bit.

[Pete Quinones]

Oh, he was great. He was a big influence on me before I found libertarianism. I used to listen to him when he was still on the radio.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh yeah, well he still is on the radio, but when he was just on the radio, yeah, we were talking about Soros and, but some, somebody showed him what was up and, and he quickly went oh, and, and probably didn't, didn't want to get, you know, have an accident of some sort. Anyway, if you listen to those guys and for the most part, like the people we want to reach are those guys, the Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, whatever type listeners, they're always talking about freedom, liberty leader. Freedom, Liberty. Freedom, liberty. And freedom to what is the question? You gotta have freedom. Freedom to what? Freedom to be on your own land, you know, freedom to raise your family or freedom to, you know, mutilate children

[Pete Quinones]

and

[Dark Enlightenment]

do non reproductive sexual stuff. So freedom. Freedom to what? And you know Americans love, like, the little house stories. That's just a story of a family being unable to take advantage of the division of labor and being poor as a result. Right. Like, this whole individual homestead thing is stupid. In European, people have always lived in villages that were like a spoke in a wheel as opposed to, you know, individual plots. It's not a healthy way to.

[Pete Quinones]

To live.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But freedom to do what? Freedom to, you know, freedom is always, Always been socially con, Socially conditional. Right in the middle of Wisconsin Territory in 1857. You might live in the middle of the woods all by yourself, but if you didn't come to church for two or three months, someone would stop by and be like, hey, man, what's going on? Oh, well, looks like, you know, this dude's been abusing his nieces. Well, fellas, guess we're going to impose some order on this. Sort of like, you know, freedom to do what? And this, you know, you got to sleep sometime. And so in order to be secure, which is a prerequisite to being free, you have to be able to have some sort of security arrangement that requires some other dude to be like, yeah, okay, well, we'll do this mutual insurance thing, and you'll. You'll watch over me while I sleep and vice versa. And your freedom is contingent on me agreeing, like, this is within the bounds of what I'll mutually insure you for. And, you know, certain things beyond the pale, like you're out of. Out of the collective insurance group. That. That mutual manner bond, that's the. The Anglo Saxon core of. Of liberty. And I think a lot of us have lost that idea of, like, well, some. This was all contingent on a group of guys getting together and saying, okay, here's the basics, here's the rules, and saying, within these rules, you're free. Outside of these rules, we're going to punish you. And too many libertarians. You know, Thomas Jefferson wanted to put Hangus and Horsa on the seal of the United States. Those guys, they were part of a group, a group of free men, but they were not individual freemen. The idea of individual men being free is a. Is ridiculous because there's no political community with which to act in. There's just him by himself. And, you know, as Sam and Amran always says, one man, no man. You don't have access to the. To the division of labor. You don't have access to, you know, your children got to get married someday, where I presume you want grandkids. If you want grandkids, you got to interact with Other families, if you want access to divisional labor, you know, may. Maybe you're a pretty good blacksmith, but. But you're a lousy farmer. Well, you got to eat, you know, so all of this, this whole hyper individualism is a. Is ahistorical and. And kind of a psyop, to be honest. I mean, communities are free. Communities are free.

[Pete Quinones]

Not men. Well, that is. Yeah. I mean, it's. I've. The more I listen to that, you know, and I hear myself saying it in the past, you know, individual liberty. Individual liberty. I guess I never really gave it a. Considered what that meant. And I always had this idea of what anarchy would look like, but what anarchy always looked like was a bunch of people around me who believed exactly what I believed. That's what it always was in my head. It was always people who believed what I believed. Because if you have. If you don't have a support system or a structure or a safety net in place, which is something that you can only have when people agree, or if people are forced to do it like you have now, and it's really not a safety net, everything is going to fall apart. Everything is. You're literally 24 hours away from your quote unquote civilization just falling apart and going into ruin. And the whole thing you were mentioning about in medieval times, if you haven't heard, or in times past, if you haven't heard from somebody in a month or two and you go there and you find out that they're abusing their children or whatever, that is something that needs to be handled. And if it's not, if you don't have a society where culturally that is ready, there's a way to handle this, well, then you're just going to. What do you. How can you stop it, you know, private property. Oh, I can't go on that guy. I don't care if that guy's. If he could be abusing his children. But it's private property, bro. It's private property. He can do what he wants. And that's literally the argument that you hear. And you know, and I'm not only. This isn't only for libertarians. This is for anyone who's, you know, the civic nationalists, the, you know, the conservatives, and they literally don't. Their idea of, oh, somebody is. Somebody's abusing their kids is to call the police. The same police that, you know, enforced Drag Queen Story Hour, the same British

[Dark Enlightenment]

police that let thousands and thousands of girls get abused in Rotherham and all over northern England. Those police.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah. The Same police that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to operate, do whatever he wanted for decades. Yeah. What was his name in Belgium? Dutroux. I mean, yeah, yeah. These, yeah. These police, these are the people that you want to rely upon rather than your neighbor who is going. Your neighbors who are going to get together and go, well, we need to put a stop to this. I'd much rather have that than a quote unquote court of law or a private law society or something like that. Yeah, just, it's all, it just all seem once you start once. I mean, all you have to do is look, even if you don't want to start seeing the world for what it is and, you know, see the world how we see it. Look at the last two and a half years.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Where is your libertarianism now?

[Pete Quinones]

Where's your civic nationalism now look at the regime in charge. There's nothing you can do to defeat that other than to figure out a way to mitigate it. Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, look, look at it. Okay, so I'm a hick who lives in the middle of nowhere. I don't really leave my home much. I don't participate in politics much. If I know the Kamala, how Kamala Harris got her start, and I know how Kamala Harris got her start, and I know that you know how Kamala Harris got her start, then everybody knows. Every time some foreign dignitary shakes her hand, they know what she did for a living when she was Willie Brown's girlfriend. You know, every intelligence agency on the face of the planet knows. The Japanese know, the Chinese know, you guarantee the Israelis know, the French know, the British know. Everybody knows. If I know it, everybody knows it. So you've got a system where, you know, I don't know who the Democratic majority leader is now, but you have a lady who's husband is apparently a long term closet case who's probably been drinking a bottle of chardonnay a day for the last 25 years in charge of, you know, the, the most powerful woman in American politics. You've got a, a brain, you know, a clearly dementia patient president. You've got a, a vice president who, who's visibly dumb and got her start how she was taught delicately, her affections were available for sale. Right. If this is the system that's been set up and you know the head of the Republicans not that long ago was, was an actual known pedophile child molester, you think the cops that are set up by that system are going to be the kind of people that you want with guns in charge of Anything in your society, in a society that's decent. Are you crazy? Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I think when I look back on some of the things that I thought in the past and I see what some people are saying now, I think that there are a lot of people who are crazy. There's a lot of people who are insane with some of the, with how they want things to be run how they want. They want things to be run a certain way, and then they have no plan on how to do it or to even get around the fact that the regime in power right now is their mortal enemy and wants them dead. Which is why I think a lot of them just embrace the trans thing. And it's like, well, I want them to just. Maybe if I embrace that, they'll like me a little bit. And I don't want to hurt people's feelings. I'm done with people's feelings. I don't want to start sounding like Ben Shapiro because Ben Shapiro is not my friend and not anyone listening to this is friend. But I don't really care about how people feel. I don't care the people who, the

[Dark Enlightenment]

feds who are monitoring. He's their buddy. But yeah, other than that.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. I have no earthly idea why anyone would think that him. And I don't know why anyone ever thought that Jordan Peterson was their friend.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, I missed Mr. U.N. report.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean, I like looked at the, I bought the guy's book and I looked at it and I'm like, okay, so this is basically a self help book for young, for millennials. I'm not a millennial, so I don't really get what the whole point of this is. I had a dad growing up.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I don't really need this book.

[Pete Quinones]

And the, you know, I mean, I remember someone had said on, someone had said on Twitter, I really like the direction Pete Show's going in. I just question some of his alliances now. And I'm like, Who should I be aligning with now? Who should be my friend? Who should I trust right now you're going to have other people pick your friends for you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Is that individual liberty when you're people who don't lie to you? That's a good start.

[Pete Quinones]

That'd be nice. Yeah. And people who don't, you know, people who don't go to other countries, especially a small one in the Middle east, that's. And you know, basically a socialist ethno state and you know, oh, I'm sorry, the only democracy in the region and you know, our greatest ally. I Mean a fascist ethno state with a wall.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, genetic requirements for citizenship.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Like, and give people free. And give people free houses that sometimes they build and sometimes they just take from other people. Gee. I mean, there was a group in the mid 20th century who got accused of doing less than this. Less than this.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Actually, Jabotinsky. Jabotinsky was straight up stole all of his ideas from the. He should not be named. Just plop them down. Like, like the ear gun is, you know, like a. Rahm Emanuel. Right. The former White House chief of staff. His dad was in the earun. You know, partially responsible for the King David Hotel bombing, if I'm not mistaken. Like, like, you know, these people are willing to use power and, and, and they run everything. So I'll, you can talk out there, but individual liberty. Okay, but, but what are you willing to use power for? Any. And even if it's just something as simple as, like, hey, man, you know, kick in 50 bucks a month for the gym that we have set up in community and don't go to, you know, Globo Gym where they promote weird stuff.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Or, yeah, they'll kick in. They'll kick. They won't kick in 50 bucks for the gym because, you know, it just seems to, I don't know. I don't want to just be around people who think like me and believe, like I do and everything. We need to be out there talking to people and trying to convince. Convince them of what? You know, it's just, it's like somebody on Facebook, someone on Facebook was like, well, we just need to educate people. On what? Educate people who are addicted to KFC and porn.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Educate people. Like, in your pocket, you have a supercomputer that has more power than the entire space program. Program that brought people to the moon. Every book ever written, and what do people do with it? Watch pornography and play Candy Crush?

[Pete Quinones]

You're showing your age with the Candy Crush thing.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, I'm an old man. Okay. You know, like, but, but that's what people. Okay, Tick tock. Like, like, they order doordash and do tick tock. I don't want to. What the kids are doing these days.

[Pete Quinones]

That's awesome. I, I, I got, I gotta get out of here. I gotta go do some stuff. Yeah. You have anything? Anything.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Just a link to my Telegram channel if you'd be so kind and, and sure. And, you know, thank you so much for having me. I'm, like I said, I'm a big fan of yours and all the work you've been Doing I, you know, it really takes some intellectual courage, I think, which, you know, moral courage is the. Is the biggest deficit we have in the world right now. And anybody that's shown some I can. I respect quite a bit, and I really, really respect all the work you've been doing, and I'm just really grateful that you thought it was worth talking to me. So thank you so much for having me, man.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I appreciate it and I also appreciate your help and, you know, just let everyone know that you've helped me get a couple guests on here that people have really, really enjoyed. So that has been. That was work that you did for me, and I appreciate it. Happy to help.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Happy to help. Thank you.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, take care. Bye. I want to welcome everyone back to the Picanono show returning and a fan favorite, a listener favorite, Dark Enlightenment. How you doing?

[Dark Enlightenment]

D well, that's a. Very flattering. The listeners of the Pete Quinones show are some of the smartest people I've ever run across. So to. To know that I'm held in esteem is a bit flattering. But I just want to say thank you for having me back, Pete. It's. It's a pleasure. And I am continually amazed at the high quality level of the show. You know, the Aristotelian talk with Jeremy was fantastic. The stuff with En Bloc was, was. I was listening to that just last night. I was riveted, you know, completely on point with both those. I really, really enjoy the program and I. Everyone should, you know, go to Freeman beyond the Wall, slash support and kick in five bucks because this is worth way more than your cable.

[Pete Quinones]

I appreciate. I appreciate that. I will say when I. When these come out, your episodes and I put them on Odyssey, those I can. The amount of views I get when you're on the show on Odyssey is like triple quote, quadruple. What? Like normal gets, you know, so. Yeah, and then people are just like that. Have that dude on all the time. Our round table that we did with, with Jose, Nino and Charles, that was

[Dark Enlightenment]

a lot of fun. Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

People are like, you guys got to do that like once a month.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, once a month might be a bit much. If you guys kick in sufficiently into the donate page and peek and start kicking me 10 bucks an episode, we'll start talking maybe.

[Pete Quinones]

That's awesome. Well, well, I appreciate the kind words right back at you. And we're here today because. Let's talk about something practical, something that anyone who. I bought a house in the last year, actually six months, and as I drive around and I was looking at the market, I started to notice things, I also started to notice things about the rental market because all of this is affected. And I know that one of the things that you concentrate on more than anything is property, is real estate, is land development, things like that. So I think we're seeing prices in the neighborhood of what we saw in the 2000s leading up to the crisis. It doesn't necessarily mean a crisis is coming, but history does help to define how we look at things and how we can judge what's going on

[Dark Enlightenment]

past this prologue, as they say. And if you see similar conditions, don't expect similar outcomes, human nature being what it is. And no one can say, oh, this is fine, the dog in burning house meme. This is probably bad. We don't know exactly how it'll play out, but it's probably bad.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, where to start? Well, if somebody's looking at housing, say, I don't know, let's talk about places that are historically high prices, like California, New York, places like that, why are they seeing, why are the prices just out absolutely through the roof at this point?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, if you would, I, I, I sent you a link to the Charles U. Smith article, but basically this is, you know, put, put on my bow tie back for a second. Even though I'm no longer a libertarian, there's a lot of libertarian analysis that's very, very important, particularly when it comes to things like central banking. And we had what, a good decade from 2008 to what, 2020, where basically interest rates were near zero. Yeah, like, like, you know, like interest rates ought to be, you know, if you put, do your basic Austrian analysis, ought to be a function of how much savings there are. But there was no savings. No one had any savings. So why are these interest rates so low? You know, it's not like everyone's sitting on $15,000 in cash, you know, just looking to loan money out and money's super cheap.

[Pete Quinones]

It's, it's, Here you go. If you want to.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Absurd.

[Pete Quinones]

I just pulled it up on the screen.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, but maybe we could read it. I don't know. But, but basically, right, we had this completely artificial bubble, created everything bubble.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

There was the 2008, you know, totally government induced. And I believe Tom woods did the best job in, I think it was meltdown. What caused that? Yeah, yeah, and I remember reading that back in the day. And of course, once you understand both Tom and then Steve Sailor's analysis, Tom didn't really go into the racial aspect of it, but that was the, one of the, one of the major causes right. Of that. But we've had this 10 year period where basically, you know, people were just chasing returns and chasing returns and there was, there was no interest, rates were zero. So you know, CDs just, you could put money in the stock market or you could buy real estate and that's it. That's all the only places you could get any money back. And so we had this huge inflation of bubble and maybe. And Charles C. Smith is a great guy, but unless you understand both the financial side of this, Of the money printed go Burr and a couple other things. Mass immigration, particularly of non whites and the suburban housing experiment requiring more and more land than, you know, they're, you know, old neighborhoods in New York City that I'm sure you remember in Queens, in Brooklyn, in upper Manhattan, you know, where a thousand people could live pretty reasonably, you know, I mean, maybe, maybe not.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, our rent. When I was grow, when I was growing up, my parents got an apartment in the Bronx. There's a two bedroom, one bath and it was still in a, I mean it was a medium Bronx neighborhood. There are some really nice sections of the Bronx. There are some really bad sections of the Bronx. This one was sort of in the middle. And I mean the two bedroom, one bath, I think they got it in 1973. It was $211 a month rent. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, I mean inflation, since it's probably written that to a thousand dollars, but, but still, but so we have this perfect storm of increasing diversity, land use being what it is, that, that instead of, instead of having density with neighbors that you could actually live with, you have, you have to, you know, price drive till you price out the undesirable elements, which is something that most people won't talk about, which I mean, I will. And I'm one of the few people that will admit like this at the root of the housing crisis is a racial problem and, and, and this Fed monetary policy. And the thing about it, that why I'm so upset by it and why I wanted to talk is this is on purpose. This is not like something that, like, oh, this just accidentally happened maybe in 2010 or 2011. You go, oh shoot, man, housing prices are going crazy because of these low interest rates. We should do something about that. No, they let it ride for years and partly because boomers are wanting to retire. And boomers, Molyneux years ago talked about how boomers want mass immigration because it drives the price of their housing and they're gonna retire with millions of dollars. Right. Nevermind the millions of dollars won't buy you anything. But, but they're all these issues are related to stuff that we talk about on the dissident right. And only people who are willing to touch those third rails of race and immigration and you know, financial canary and who's behind it are willing, are going to actually get to the heart of the problem.

[Pete Quinones]

So yeah, I would say that and I'll start reading this and then you can stop me and you can comment on anything. Libertarian analysis is great, but they're not going to touch the underlying issues, the under the underlying issues of race, of immigration, things like that, because it's just not acceptable. You're, you're not judging people as individuals and that kind of thing. So just the typical de radicalization that someone like me who was, you know, pretty much a, a racist my whole life, who not racist but you know, saw that there were differences between, you know, every group and then became a libertarian and was like, oh, now I have to judge everybody. It's like a de radical. I mean becoming a libertarian is like de radicalizing. They think they're like, they're radicals. They're not radicals at all. I mean, saying that you want the government, you know, we need to abolish the government, you know, saying something that you're not going to be able to ever accomplish, that's not going to happen in your lifetime, in the lifetime of your child, children, their children, children, children, children's children, you know, you know, 400 generations, that's not something radical. That's why you never see them get cracked down upon unless they do something stupid with guns or something like that, or they do something to with the money supply like you know, put up Bitcoin, ATMs and things like that. But you know, the people who talk about the real issues of race and you know, and demographics and immigration, they get fucked with, you know, so.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Exactly.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. All right, you want me to start reading this?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Go for it.

[Pete Quinones]

All right. So he wrote, here's why housing is unaffordable for the bottom 90%. This is a direct consequence of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented stimulus, extremes of wealth and income inequality that gave the wealthiest households the means to bid up housing to the point point it's no longer affordable to the bottom 90%. And you can just hear libertarians going, oh boohoo. Work harder. Learn to code. The superficial conclusion that the reason why the superficial conclusion that the reason why housing is unaffordable is a scarcity of Housing misses a key dynamic in supply and demand. Who has too much money and where do they park it? The reality is obvious, but conventional analysts don't see it, or largely because it doesn't fit the approved narratives. Here's why Housing is unaffordable to the bottom 90%1 the US economy is a bubble economy that funnels the vast majority of gains into the top 10% who own 90% of all income producing assets. Bubbles create astounding sums of unearned wealth and distribute it very asymmetrically. The already wealthy who inherited assets or acquired them when they were cheap reap most of the gains. Please examine the first two charts to see below to see how this works. The first chart shows that the top 10% own between 85% and 95% of all income producing assets, business equity, stocks, bonds and other securities and non home real estate that is Second homes and income generating properties. These the second chart shows that household net worth concentrated in the top 10% soared far above GDP in the bubble economy, in effect creating 55 trillion out of thin air and handing it handing 90% of it to the wealthy. Recall that net worth is assets minus liabilities such as debt. So this is what's left after subtracting liabilities slash debts. The less wealthy tend to have fewer assets and more debts. So someone may hold title to a million dollar home, but if their mortgage is 900,000, their net worth is only $100,000. Also note that the family home doesn't generate income other than for the owner of the mortgage. To the homeowner it is an expense, not an income source. Turning to the second chart, we see that if household net worth had tracked the general economy's expansion, I.e. gDP gross domestic product, it would be less than 90 trillion. Thanks to the bubble economy, it's 145.9 trillion according to the Federal Reserve's database. That 55 trillion above the real world economy's actual expansion is an artifact of the bubble economy, an artificial construct of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented manipulation of interest rates and monetary stimulus. Note that in the previous housing and stock market bubble circa 2006-8, household net worth only exceeded GDP by 5 trillion, a nice chunk of change to be sure, but an order of magnitude smaller than the gargantuan 55 trillion in bubble wealth created in the current central bank. Everything bubble as the chart below of housing bubbles one and two shows, the Fed's unprecedented stimulus inflated housing bubbles number number one and number two, the stock market bubble took off around 1995 with the introduction of the Netscape browser. And housing's ascent lagged a few years beginning in the late 1990s. The chart is the case Shiller National Home Price Index. But housing bubble number one never really only took off after the dot com stock market bubble popped and the Fed aggressively lowered interest rates. The fed funds rate fell from 6.5% in summer 2000 to 1% in summer 2003. It remained at a historically low 3% well into 2005, when the housing bubble entered into rank. Rocket booster. Into its rocket booster phase of euphoria. The Fed eventually normalized rates, returning to 5% by mid 2000. But as the housing bubble began popping, the Fed quickly started cutting rates again, dropping the fed funds rate to near zero by December 2008.16%.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The wealth.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, good.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And there was another chart in the chat that, well, median house price versus rent or something, we'll have to pull that up. It stayed that way for 10 years. Think about that for just a second. If you are a core millennial, right? I'm an old, like, I'm right on the edge of extra millennial. I'm 40, in my mid-40s. If you're 10 years younger than me, if you're 35 years old, right. You graduated high school in, oh, I don't know, 2003, 2004, 2005, something like that. Right. As you're getting your life started

[Pete Quinones]

for

[Dark Enlightenment]

the first 10 years of your, of your, like, you know, from 20 to 30 or from 25 to 35, when you're supposed to be establishing yourself, meeting a spouse, getting married, having your first kids. The economy completely screwed you. 0.168. Like, like, you know, at least, at least in like, completely corrupt oligarchies like a, like Bahrain or UAE or whatever. Like, they just admit, like, hey, like, we're the, we're the ruling family and we're in charge. We're just like, all the money is going to come to us and you're screwed. They admit that. But if, you know, in America, we're supposed to be like, oh, it's a free and democratic republic where my vote counts as much as Bill Gates's. How am I, how am I supposed to get a start in life when, you know you're screwing with the, the money supply like this to the benefit of the oligarchy.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And, yeah, because wages didn't go up. I mean, if wages kept pace with, you know, I mean, you know, wages remained flat, have been effectively flat since the 70s,

[Pete Quinones]

I think. I, I saw this, I heard this the other day on a podcast, and I can't remember which one it was, but it was, it wasn't one of ours. It was more of a mainstream podcast. And it said that in 2000, the average median income was 3, $30,000 and the average home price was $120,000. And as of 2022, the median income is 40,000 and the average home price is 410,000.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Sounds about right. Like, like, like four, four years of, you know, media,

[Pete Quinones]

you know, the, the

[Dark Enlightenment]

average house is four years of your median wage.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like if you just paid off four years ago, like, oh, hey, over 30 years, you can take 10% of what you make and 20% of what you make and pay it towards housing. Now it's what, 10 times? There's no way.

[Pete Quinones]

When I was living, when I was still living in Atlanta, there were houses, there were neighborhoods that I knew where there were houses that were built in the 60s and 70s. And I never really priced them or anything, but, you know, I had a rough idea how much they cost. They started building McMansions around them and, you know, little. And they were little ones. Like there would only be five in like a cul de sac. And they were like, oh, starting at $900,000, this isn't very far outside of Atlanta. You're maybe breaking the Atlanta, the Atlanta city line by 10 minutes. So this isn't even the suburbs yet, you know, and you're at 900. You're at $900,000.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So the home price to income ratio, I just found a chart from 1953 to 2023. This is long term trends dot net. And it. In the 50s, it was. Around six. And in the housing bubble it was around seven or eight. And it's back up to seven or eight now.

[Pete Quinones]

And in the fifth, in the 50s and 60s, you still had restraints on, on the money supply through. Through. Still having some semblance of a gold standard.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yes.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. So that's how I remember my, you know, my family in Pennsylvania buying their, you know, telling me that, you know, they bought their houses in the 60s for like $15,000 and $20,000.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

While they were on a coal miner's salary.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

And the wife didn't work.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

So.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah. 6.31 in 1953, got down to as low as, you know, 3.7 in the late 60s. And, you know, it's back above 7 now. So anyway, please continue with this.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. And I was going to mention those $900,000 houses that were popping up. Those, those were on like a quarter of an acre. Yeah, it's a quarter of it. You're not getting any land with that. You're just, it's just a house.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's just like that. Yeah, yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, part three of this. The wealth created by the Fed's stock and bond bubbles flowed into housing. It is not a coincidence the housing bubble, number one, expanded rapidly from 2000 onward. As the stock market bubble deflated, those who reaped the gains sought a new place to park their excess wealth. And with interest rates falling due to the Fed, housing was the place to put that bubble generated capital to work. Mortgage rates hit historic lows and the resulting bubble was self reinforcing. Simply securing the purchase rights to an ass, to an as yet unbuilt house with a small down payment could generate astounding gains in a few months. I remember being in South Florida and a friend of mine bought a house in January and this was in 2000. This was at the ending of 2004. He had bought a house in January for $165,000 and in April sold it for 325. That's what, that's what the market was doing back then.

[Dark Enlightenment]

He doubled his money.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, just about.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh my gosh.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's insane.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. In four months, I, I, I, I, I bought a condo and I, I sold it two months later just because we weren't really, didn't, weren't really familiar with the neighborhood. And it turned out the neighborhood wasn't that great. So, so I just turned around like two months later and flipped it. And we made 30% on the sale. Yeah, it was.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. But again, you know what, if you're a young person who's getting started.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, those days are, those days are gone until somebody does something, basically. All right, financial fraud. Oops. I mean innovations added icing to the Fed's bubble cake. Liar loans, zero down payment mortgages, adjustable rate mortgages, deceptive packaging of toxic mortgages into highly rated mortgage backed securities, et cetera, fueled the bubble. Bubble's final blow off top. Massive, sustained Fed stimulus inflated housing bubble number two. A bubble that went ballistic in 2020 as the Fed engaged in unprecedented stimulus, doubling its balance sheet to 9 trillion, dropping the Fed's fund rate from a meager 2.4% back to zero, and boosting its portfolio of mortgage backed securities to 2.6 trillion. Fed stimulus also inflated bubbles in stocks and bonds as interest rates fell to near zero bonds soared in value and the S&P 500 index of stocks rocketed from 666 ironic in early 2009 to 3380 in early 2020, a five fold increase. The vast majority of these massive gains accrued to the top 10%, roughly 13 million households in parentheses. There are 131 million households in the U.S. so basically, yeah, 10%. The top 10% includes the financial nobility, billionaires and those worths hundreds of millions of dollars. Top 01% the financial aristocracy, households worth 10 million the top 5% the wealthy net worth in the many millions the top 1% and the upper middle class the bottom 9% of the top 10%. Historically speaking, the upper middle class has often owned more than one property. A vacation cabin on the lake or beach, raw land held for investment or a rental property property with interest rates locked by the Fed at unprecedented lows. The 12 million households in this class who had seen their stock bond and property portfolio zoom to staggering heights, tap their newfound wealth and ample credit to go on a housing real estate buying spree. Recall that housing was still affordable in the mid to late 1990s. Mechanics and librarians could still buy a modest home in a good neighborhood in the San Francisco Francisco Bay area and many other now unaffordable metro areas when the housing when housing bubble number one finally popped, housing was very briefly affordable circa 2012. 5 Many frugal investment savvy upper white middle class households acquired properties when they were still affordable. It's not at all uncommon for families to own multiple in properties in addition to the family home. Vacation homes bought decades ago at low prices were converted to short term vacation rentals for the for part of the year generating income when the family wasn't using the home. Nearby cabins were snapped up for REIT for investment rentals. The upper middle class also inherited properties and other assets assets for example houses bought decades ago for 30 or 40,000 have soared to 1 million valuations in many metro areas or even 2 million in desirable neighborhoods. Selling a home for a million plus leaves more than enough capital to buy multiple properties in less pricey regions. Unfortunately for the upper middle class, the financial aristocracy and wealthy already own the most desirable properties in the most desirable areas. So the upper middle class lowered their sites to what was still affordable and and this has driven gentrification. As those with excess capital and credit seek a place to park their wealth that will rise in value. Neighborhoods that were once affordable quickly became unaffordable at the bottom 90% as the top 10% bid prices to the moon. 7. The immense wealth created by the bubble economy hasn't just enriched a few billionaires. It's created an entire clock class of wealthy numbering in the millions. When 10 million households have the wealth and credit to buy houses beyond the family home they live in, that's a very large pool of buyers. Buyers who have seen their initial purchases soaring in value, incentivizing additional purchases of housing. 8. Housing is priced on the margin, so a relative handful of purchases can push the valuation of an entire neighborhood to the moon. Compared to stocks and bonds, housing is a liquid. Transactions are few and take months to settle. The last five sales will adjust the valuation parenthesis via appraisals seeking near nearby compa comparables of the surrounding hundred homes. Corporations and the super wealthy have always been on a massive buy on massive buying sprees, zapping up hundreds or thousands of houses as rental properties. The 55 trillion in excess bubble wealth is always seeking a higher return. And as rents have soared, see the chart below. Rental housing has been seen as a safe and profitable haven for the trillions of dollars floating around seeking a low risk return. Low risk, high return. As the last chart shows, the current housing bubble is far more extreme than housing bubble number one. It took a much shorter period of time to reach far higher heights of over evaluation. This is why the bottom 90% can't afford a house. The bubble economy created 55 trillion out of thin air and 90% of that went to the top 10%, a class historically attuned to owning real estate for income and investment. The bottom 90% skimmed a few bucks in the past 25 years of the bubble economy, but nowhere near enough to compete with corporations, the financial aristocracy or the upper middle class. This is the direct consequence of the Federal Reserve's decades of unprecedented stimulus, extremes of wealth and income inequality that give the wealthiest households the means to bid up housing to the point it's no longer affordable to the bottom 90%. And I'll, I'll make sure to link this in the show notes so people can, if you're listening, you can, you know, at least look it over and everything.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So as more and more people are renting, right, like you buy a house in a decent neighborhood, right, and you're just a middle class person and your mortgage is, you can afford it, but one of those upper middle class people that had, maybe had the wherewithal to get in, you know, to, you know, climb the ladder as it were, moves out of that nice middle class neighborhood that, that, you know, your parents bought for 50 that, you know, $50,000 in 1987, right? And they take that middle class house and they start renting it. If you rent it out to Section Eights, it's guaranteed income. I mean, who cares? You don't live there anymore. Who cares if know the people who live there that you rent to are terrible.

[Pete Quinones]

I've personally, I've personally known many people who take advantage of that. And get that Section 8 check every month, right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

You're guaranteed the check. No, never going to be late. It's always on time. And you know, it doesn't matter to you if like the people who live in your house are playing ranchero music at 3 in the morning. You don't live there anymore. Who cares about, you know, like, you don't know your neighbors, you're not friends with them, you don't have any solidarity with them. They're not your kith and kin that you care about. You moved, you moved up to the east side, you know, into the apartment in the sky. You made it. And it's right. So as that suburban model that requires vast sums of land and just eats land in huge chunks because the roads are huge and wide, the houses are far apart, right? Sprawls out more and more land is required. It costs more, materials cost more. All this other stuff that I've talked about endlessly elsewhere, I don't, I mean I can recapitulate that if you want me to, but I don't feel I need to. You get this doubling effect of like, okay, not only is the process more expensive, but you've got to move. If you have a family and the guy next door moves out and puts in a bunch of Section 8 stuff and there's, you know, cartel dudes with face tattoos playing ranchero at three in the morning, you've got to move. You gotta, if you got kids, you gotta leave that spot. You, you've got to go. You can't have your kids around those dudes. I mean, you'd be insane to have, have a white daughter living next door to a bunch of Section 8 cartel guys. It's insane. So you've got this, this. Maybe you sell at a loss. Maybe, maybe you, you know, your quality of life is significantly degraded now.

[Pete Quinones]

What?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Moving is awful. I hate moving. It's, it's among the most stressful things you can do, right? I mean, you just, you just get done with a move.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And it was, and even with I

[Pete Quinones]

wanted to die, I mean, I like literally I've already, I've already decided I'm dying in this house.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. You just don't want to do it. It's terrible. And, you know, you weren't. This was like, okay, I got a great wife, I got a great job. I can live everything where I want. I'm moving someplace. I'm excited about living. It's. It's going to be great. We're going to have all these positive things come of it. And it was still a pain in the neck. It was still awful. I remember, you know, like we, we talked privately. Oh, God, I gotta go find, you know, can I find an end table? Oh, shoot me now.

[Pete Quinones]

35 minutes to find the right end tables. I don't want to kill myself.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. It's terrible. It's awful. And what you've got to do, you need, you need certain things for your house. Well, imagine going through that entire process, but instead of all these positive accruals of like, I'm gonna live some base homogenous someplace safe, someplace where I'm going to get to do things that I want to do. And with all these, you know, awesome plans that you have that are frankly kind of cool, I look forward to visiting you someday. It sounds awesome, the idea that, like, you're forced out because, like, I can't live here.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Left behind in Rosedale. This the book or Imagine to call back to, you know, our series that we did on raceborn High School. Imagine you're one of those folks living in that neighborhood in Brooklyn. It was Brooklyn, right? Like the school was right on the border between Brooklyn and Queens, if I remember. Right, right. Imagine. Imagine you're one of those in Brooklyn at the time, you've just gotta leave. You're literally being chased out by, you know, insane, violent, non white people wielding machetes. You got to take whatever loss you can and move, and it's going to cost you more time. And it's stressful and all of these things, right? These, all of these increased costs that just make it more and more and more difficult. And so, you know, in many years ago, when I was new to all these sorts of ideas, I was like, I got to tell these people about the truth. Like the bell curve is a thing. And, and that's why there's this, this problem here. And then, oh my gosh, everybody knows. Lindsey Graham knows, Kamala Harris knows. Everybody knows all of the true things that we talk about, and they base their policy on it. You think that the people who are facilitating the invasion of Lampedusa right now don't know that like bringing 10,000 single African men into a little tiny island with like 7,000 people in it, a lot of whom are old folks, isn't going to cause a huge number of problems.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, and probably mostly criminals being let out of a prison somewhere.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, yeah, of course. Just like the Mariel boat lift.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, you know that. Right. 80% of the Turkish refugees in Germany don't work,

[Pete Quinones]

so why. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The German state knows that. They publish the data. So why are they the ones saying, oh, well, we need these people for the economy. No, you don't. You know that they don't work. I mean, if 80% of the time, Pete, you're like a complete drunk jerk, but 20% of the time you're great as a neighbor, right?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Are you a good neighbor or not?

[Pete Quinones]

I've, I've had, I've had those neighbors before.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. And it's awful. It's. It's terrible. You know, Atlanta is physically enormous.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And it's physically enormous because people have been moving one exit down the highway from bad neighbors for 50 years or no, Atlanta, probably 70 years.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, 70. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So at what point, you know, that's. What, what. One of the things that precipitated the housing crisis in 2008 was the war in Iraq caused a massive spike in fuel prices and people just couldn't afford to drive, you know, the drive until you qualify thing that happened in, you know, like, wait a minute, you know, something that's tenable, you know, living, living in, in Bakersfield and driving to Los Angeles might be tenable at, you know, $1.20 a gallon. It is not at 350 or 475 or whatever it got up to back in the day. It's just, it's not tenable. And now we're looking at, you know, four and five dollar gas again and these massive housing prices. And you have to ask yourself, you know, this is on purpose when you flood the country with tens of millions of illegals.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Is anyone an Eagle Pass, Texas? Like, oh, this is fine. This is. We're going to be able to stay here. We're going to be able to build life here. Or are they like, we need to get the hell out of here. You know, look at what the COVID thing got to be millions. And I mean, not to get too paranoid, but it is precisely that middle class, upper middle class person with a million dollars. I mean, you know, oh my gosh, you know what you or I could do with a million dollars. Right. But it is precisely that the the person that owns a diner or has a small business where they have access to capital, that was the, you know, the Jeffersonian yeoman class that was supposed to kind of carry this country and did for, you know, centuries. You know, not, not that they were. Had a million dollars in 1780 or whatever, but, you know, the, the, the petite bourgeoisie folks that owned, owned a business, maybe had a house, had enough money to like vociferously complain to, you know, a state representative or a local congressman and actually get listened to because they were able to afford the 3, 4, $5,000 for the rubber chicken dinner and complain in his ear. And you get enough of those people, right? You get 500 people, the middle Alabama Small Restaurateurs association, where you got 500 dudes who operate barbecue joints and hash houses and, you know, family run pizza places and whatever. And they all. Each of these people's got a million dollars and they, they can compete with like, you know, a dude with $500 million. You know, you get 500 people that, that own a real business. But what, what was the 2020 from, you know, what was Covid? But like, oh, Pizza Hut can stay open, but, you know, Joe's Pizza down in the corner, they have to close,

[Pete Quinones]

right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

It was just a gigantic transfer from local grocery stores, local businesses, small restaurants, to, you know, the big guys, Amazon and, you know, Walmazon took over and this whole, this whole housing crisis. And it's not even just like an America thing, right? I mean, we could look at, you know, prices in South Beach, Miami or New York or San Francisco or what have you. It's happening in Toronto, it's happening in Vancouver, it's happening in Paris, it's happening in England, it's happening in London, England. It's happening in Italy. It's happening all over the world because this is a policy of the globalists. I've seen ads for a garage in Vancouver for $500,000. A garage? Like a garage like a literal. You know, and, and so you have to ask yourself, wait a minute, if this is happening all over the world, every one of these places is getting hit by massive waves of immigration that not only bid up prices just because they're having more people, but they force people out because they're. It's intolerable to live. You know, can you imagine even imagine living in Lampedusa right now? I mean, could you even imagine?

[Pete Quinones]

No.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Would you even let your wife out of the house?

[Pete Quinones]

Be planning your exit?

[Dark Enlightenment]

You'd have to leave. You'd have to leave I mean it's a wonderful place. I'm sure it's a absolutely fantastic like you know, middle of the Mediterranean, beautiful white beaches, gorgeous weather. I mean old beautiful architecture. I'm sure it's a, a paradise. And just like with Maui, right? Like all those folks are going to leave and someone's going to buy that property for a song because they're distressed. And then, you know, Oprah Winfrey can be like, well, you know, actually get the riff raff off my beach because she has enough juice with the, with the people in charge to actually make it so that, so that, so the nice happens. But what about, what about the poor folks that got displaced? What happens to them? What happens to their kids?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, you, you sent me that thing in Rocklaw, Poland.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

They just took an apartment, divided it into 259 foot by 6 foot bedrooms and they're charging everybody $320 a month. US dollars. Yeah, I mean Poland, Poland, which is, you know, supposed to be based. But who are they in business with? They're in business with Globohomo, right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Hungary.

[Pete Quinones]

Now they get to live like global homo. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

My friends over at the White Papers Institute, if you're interested, actually interested in the nitty gritty of policy. I can't recommend White Papers Institute, highway and F on substack. I mean, should you be following Pete Substack? But there's many others out there that are awesome, that are. And substacks have been a great platform for our people to tell the truth on. Hungary has one of the largest diasporas in the world. They're importing foreign workers from Asia, South Asia. Instead of going to local Hungarians and being like, hey, come back to come back to the homeland. We need workers. Come back.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

They're importing. So even like Viktor Orban, right? Like based Viktor Orban, right. You know, oh, Greg Abbott's tough talking governor of Texas. He doesn't take no gun. Like, well, why is he letting in tens of millions of illegal immigrants from who knows where, Asia, Africa, all over Central America? You know, how is that constitutional government? How is that the protecting the rights, liberty and property of Texans to, to let tens of thousands of people just trump across your land. I wrote I destroy your fences.

[Pete Quinones]

I wrote a substack yesterday saying one of the most dangerous things in existence right now is the religion of civic nationalism, is that we have to stick to the Constitution. We have to do it's, you know, what we've done in the past and everything and not realizing that all of those things were Set up by a. You know, the Constitution was set up by a bunch of oligarchs so that they could subvert it, so that it could enrich them. Do you know who the four richest

[Dark Enlightenment]

people in America were in 1776? Who? George Washington, John Hancock, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, and Philip Schuyler, Alexander Hamilton's father in law.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, you're people.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Pretty sure that's the four.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it's a religion. It's a religion. And they will not, you know, people still haven't figured out that, you know, like, you know, oh, I'm, I'm a staunch conservative. What are you. What are you conserving? What are you conserving? The.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Bro, you can't conserve the girl's bathroom.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. The New Deal regime. Is that what you're. You're conserving new. The New Deal regime? Nuremberg. By calling leftists Nazis. Owning. Owning the leftists by calling them Nazis

[Dark Enlightenment]

and.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Birthright citizenship. Like, birthright citizenship guarantees that none of these people like, like you just, you just destroyed Texas. It might take 30 years. They might have to get married, have kids. And those kids will be born, but those kids will. Those kids won't grow. Like, with the housing prices the way they are now, those people will be permanent renters. Will they ever be. Will they ever be. Not beyond Section 8? Of course not. Will they ever not be on SNAP? Will they ever not be on Medicare or Medicaid? Will they ever be productive taxpayers? Will they ever be part of that petit bourgeoisie that actually carries America? You know, the people with their own businesses who live, you know, without much state dependency? Of course not. Of course not. And their kids are going to vote accordingly. So what are you. So what are you doing this housing crisis that is preventing young people from getting married and having children or living in a secure life or growing assets. This is a policy. This is on purpose. You know, I just saw, I put it in our private chat. I think, you know, the. I'm going to national median rent versus annual household income as ratios. So like, if they started at zero in 1985, by the time 2023 rolls

[Pete Quinones]

around,

[Dark Enlightenment]

rent goes up like 160% and housing goes up. Something like this is on TikTok. So I don't know, like, maybe you could forward it or put it in. I don't know how to do any of this link stuff. I'm a complete boomer when it comes to technology, which is kind of funny, but wages, household income is basically flat.

[Pete Quinones]

Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

And it started to creep up Just a little bit in after the tariffs and Trump's rightful understanding of the way things are working. But incomes up 30%, housing's up 100 to 60%. How are people supposed to live? How are people supposed to live? And so ask yourself the question. Well, they know it's happening. You read the financial press, you read the right people, they know what's happening. So what's happening? Like, is this on purpose? Oh, it has to be.

[Pete Quinones]

There's no other explanation.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. And so the market's going to correct how? The guys, the guys that cornered the market, the top, you know, not even the top 10%, but the top, you know, 1%, you know, the local shop owner that had a million dollars that was part of that 10%, had a house at the lake, had a decent place, owned a local pizza joint.

[Pete Quinones]

You know,

[Dark Enlightenment]

how's he going to compete with Bill Gates? How's he going to compete with Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk? He's not. So, you know, you libertarians, sorry, you're going to have to do something that's like not market based if you want to correct this imbalance somehow, right? Yeah. Because it wasn't a market based thing in the first place. You know, who are the richest people in the world? Elon Musk got all his money through a government. Basically. He's working for the military industrial complex. Right. Doing all the R and D for electric vehicles that the deep state wants, getting paid for that.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Starlink, who's the major contractor for all of his SpaceX stuff. That's all NASA and other putting aside whether or not any of that's real or not. Right. Like he's working for the government, Jeff Bezos, without not paying sales taxes and without being able to use the post office and government roads. Jeff Bezos goes out of business. Walmart, which is the major employer in like 45 of the 50 states. You can look it up, you know, without SNAP benefits. Every one of their stores goes out of business without, you know, many of their employees.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Are on some sort of assistance. You know, that with, without some sort of government intervention, Walmart goes out of business. You know, healthcare is the other major, like healthcare and state university systems are the other like biggest employer in, you know, state X is either Walmart, I think in Washington state it was Boeing, remember looking this up four or five years ago, so it might have changed since then, but I doubt it. In four or five states it was like the local health system.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Which of course is just a pass through for Medicare and Medicaid dollars with some private, private money sprinkled on top. So what are you going to do?

[Pete Quinones]

Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

State universities, like, they're a real private employer. Please, You didn't get here because, oh, the, the free market or government, you know, like, this has all been a government operation from start to finish. We haven't had a free market since 1913 at a minimum.

[Pete Quinones]

Dude, you're. You're missing the answer here. Just end the Fed and end the government, bro.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Okay, so the people with all the money and all the guns and all the lawyers, they're gonna just let you end it by saying, well, I don't like that.

[Pete Quinones]

But that's the moral thing. This is all about morals. They're immoral and I'm moral. That makes me right, and that's all that matters.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, yeah, you're moral, but your. Your children aren't gonna be able to afford to have children and you're never gonna have grandchildren. You might have a, like a grand dog. Yeah, that's not. You're gonna have, like, you're gonna have to live your old age surrounded by gang bangers. You're gonna like, beat you up and take your stuff because you can't afford to move.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. And by the time they figure this out and start talking about it, they're tr. If they do have grandkids, their trans grandkids are going to load them onto a box car.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yep. So this housing crisis, that again, is not just happening in the United States, it's happening in Canada, it's happening in Australia, it's happening in New Zealand, it's happening in. And I've talked, talked to Aussies and New Zealanders about this numerous times. You know, like, this is not a new thing. This is all over the world. And. And oh, the other thing that we didn't talk about, let's say that you're Chinese and you made, oh, I don't know, $300 million illicitly in China. And because China is actually a serious country, they do things to criminals in their country, like execute them. And you're like, I need to get the hell out of here. But because you're in Hong Kong, you've got some sort of relationship with the British. And so you're like, I'm gonna take my money and go. And you go and you buy $155 million apartment in Central London. And that's how some of the most. Some of these places cost hundreds of millions of dollars for an apartment. That's insane. No one lives there why is that? Well, here's what happens. Mr. Lee takes $155 million of his dirty money. He buys an apartment in Central London for $155 million cash and then maybe does the same thing a couple other places. Maybe, maybe he's got a place in Miami, maybe he's got a place in New York, right? All of a sudden he's got these three houses. What does he do with it? Well, he's got 155 million dollar asset just sitting there. He can borrow against that. So he can borrow $110 million, put that in the stock market in dividend stocks and live off that for the rest of his life. And all of a sudden boom, whatever dirty money he was making is clean. And never mind that oh well, ordinary English people can't afford to live in England and that they've been driven out of their home capital, their own capital and there's all these empty houses in huge chunk of Trump. Trump Tower was actually because of stuff like this, right? You know, it's just the, just the place that you know these, these super wealthy live like well, well why can't you just say actually nah, we're not doing that in the middle of Manhattan, sorry, you can live here. No one's saying you can't. But like human beings have to live like in the most expensive real estate in the world. We're not just going to leave it empty so that you can launder money because, because nor ordinary people can't afford to live in New York anymore. Maybe Staten island is the last place ordinary people can afford to live in New York. But if you're not somehow state dependent like receiving Section 8 SNAP and free health care and all that other stuff. How does a ordinary person live in New York? You have to be super wealthy to live in New York City anymore. I mean, am I wrong?

[Pete Quinones]

No, I mean I, I don't understand how anybody who you know, isn't, hasn't lived there for decades and parents, you know, have their parents house or, or you know, have had a rent control place passed down to them for, you know, from a generation ago. How you can afford to live there unless you are, you know, the child, you are the 1% or the child of someone in the 1%. And I don't even know how people. The 1%. 1% really isn't that much anymore. It's really that top point five percent because I mean all you have to do is go to New York for a weekend and see how much stuff costs and you ask Yourself. The question how do people live here?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, they don't. That's. The

[Pete Quinones]

people are just. I don't know, people are waiting for it to get so bad that they're forced to react. And by the time you get to that, to there, you, you. You may not even have the. You may not have the strength to react. You may not. I don't know what people are waiting for. I mean, I'm not saying, oh, people got to overthrow this government and everything, but wake up to the fact that of what we're living through and where we're at in this moment in history and what it's going to take for you to fortify yourself and get through it. I think many people think that this can just go on. They can go on forever in this.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't explain to me how this is going to work.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like Texas. Tucker Carlson actually just had a really good interview with Ken Paxton, the AG of Texas. And Ken Paxton is, is the sort of civic nationalist that would be a decent person in a decent country, but is completely ill equipped to deal with the realities of the world that we live in. And I urge the listeners to, you know, it's about 45 minutes long or something. I think you can probably find it on Rumble and listen at two times speed, which is what I did. But, you know, the oligarchy Bush clan, right, Who've been CIA people for what Prescott Bush was. Yeah, right. Like not just. And then, you know, H.W. was director of the CIA, just happened to be in Dallas when Kennedy was shot.

[Pete Quinones]

Bush tried to overthrow the government.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah, that's right. I remember. Yeah. He's part of the business plot, wasn't he?

[Pete Quinones]

Yep. Business plot. Yep.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay.

[Pete Quinones]

All right. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So not that FDR was great, but.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Anyway, Skull and Bones, right? You know, the 2000. Hey, you know, eight election was, was. Look at that. One Bonesman from Yale versus another Bonesman

[Pete Quinones]

from Yale who says if the business plot didn't. Didn't go through, it might, we might not actually be in a better spot. Who knows?

[Dark Enlightenment]

I don't know. I don't know. But. But nevertheless, right, we've got this, this oligarchical family that aren't really from Texas, but Carl Rove, their homosexual hatchet man, goes after Ken Paxton for effectively, you know, he's opposing the Obama administration on civic nationalist grounds. And his boss, Governor Greg Abbott, doesn't do anything because Greg Abbott, you know, wheeled himself all the way up to the wall wearing a kippah you know, but the left, it's worth listening to or worth watching because he just goes through. Oh, well, the left captured this particular institution, the administrative judges, so that they don't. Don't commit, you know, they don't prosecute crimes or they don't. Or the DAs, or this particular legal thing, so that we couldn't do this. Or they took away all my campaign funds, so I had to, like, almost bankrupt myself defending myself with lawyers or, you know, this, that, or the other thing, right? Like Mark Stein, the former Communist at National Review. He's been in a lawsuit for, I want to say, 10 years against Michael Mann, the guy that did the hockey stick graph. You know, like, he said this was fraudulent BS in a blog post. And this case has gone on for 11 years. And Mark Stein's very famous, famous phrase of the process is the punishment, right? This whole system is illegitimate. Right. Peter, I says the wrong thing on a podcast, and all of a sudden we get sued. This. The suit's completely frivolous. It's nonsense. It's totally total bs. It doesn't matter. They know that it's bs. The problem is they want to bankrupt you with lawyers. So you have to sell your house. You're going to do all this other stuff. They want discovery. They want. You know, look at the Charlottesville lawsuit. It was nonsense, total nonsense. But the whole point was to just bankrupt people with lawyers. So if this system makes it impossible for your children to have a family, makes it impossible for you to live in a safe home, makes it impossible you afford, you know, transportation, makes it impossible for you to live a life where anything approximating what your ancestors lived, why do you still support it? Why do you. Why do you think there are rules? There's just power, brah. Like, there's. There's the people who have it, and they want to use it on you in a malicious and evil fashion, stop pretending that there are rules. I mean, I can't help but. Let me find the article here. Justice Report. Did a. Did a. The. The news site associated with the national Justice Party. Did a story on Section 8 in Texas, right? And people got stabbed within, like, hours

[Pete Quinones]

of

[Dark Enlightenment]

the, you know, Section 8 housing being allowed in this neighborhood. You know, so why.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

In the stunning blow to public safety, Texas lawmakers have now made it illegal for housing authorities to Bar Section 8 tenants from Brending in their neighborhoods. Welcome to Providence Village, a predominantly white town in North Texas rife with black violence, thanks to Republican politicians, now has no way of stopping the tide of Section 8 tenants from destroying a once safe community. I'm going to throw you a link here, Pete. But why, why is this legitimate? Why are we, why are we even pretending this is something that, that these people like, they're not, they're not playing by rules. Except we hate you and want you to die. That's the rule. We quote the great Sam Hyde. They want you dead and broke and they think it's funny.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's another thing I wrote. You know, I asked some questions in my sub stack yesterday. It's, you know, for civic nationalists. It's. I'm trying to figure out what they, what they think the end game is. What do they think? Like, should you be forced to live next to people who hate you? Should people who hate you have a direct say in your life? How about in the way you're governed? Who are. Who are you content with sharing a poly. Why are you content with sharing a polity with people that hate you? Why are you truly unaware that people hate you and what you did? What is it going to take to wake you up to that fact? Why wouldn't you want to be surrounded by people who think and act like you do? And I will add and look like you do? Why are these. Why is. Why are questions like that a threat to the civic religion?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Use it an example. I would be perfectly happy. I prefer to live on some land by myself. But you know, if I got a little bit older and didn't want to mow the lawn and all that stuff, if I could live in a, you know, reasonably private condo with, you know, my kids are out of the house or whatever, and Pete Quinones was on the other side of my white wall. You know, I'd have you over to grill out every other Tuesday. Like, oh, it's Tuesday. We're headed over to Canones house to, you know, Canones condo to have a couple glasses of wine and grill some steaks. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. The problem is, is if you share a common wall with people who, I don't know, don't know how to change smoke detector batteries and, and frequently, you know, like African immigrants who frequently, like, cook using charcoal, that can cause some real freaking problems, man.

[Pete Quinones]

Like, like I'm calling it. I'm saying that like our national religion now is smoke detector. Smoke detector nationalism. It's like, I don't know if you

[Dark Enlightenment]

saw the meme, but like Neil DeGrasse Tyson saying, I know why the cage. Tall way chirps.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, yeah, did you see that one? Of the video of Kevin Samuels. Rest in peace. Shouldn't have taken the jab.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, that was. Yeah, that was hilarious. But also terrible. I mean, what a great loss. Yeah. Like, but what do you mean, the hallway. Just do that. How can you. How can you live next to someone who can't take basic precautions of, like, not making your. Sure your mutual dwelling doesn't go up in a fire?

[Pete Quinones]

I don't even think it's the question of how you can. It's. Why would you want to. And what comp. What. What is it in this religion of. Of this Nash, of this, you know, constitutionalism, America, whatever you want to call it, what is it that forces you to think that you have to. That you have to accept the fact that this person who can't change a battery is that they should have any say in your life? Why would you want to be around. What is. What is wrong with you that you've been.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, is it because you think

[Pete Quinones]

you're going to be. People are going to think you're a hateful bigot.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I.

[Pete Quinones]

Who cares?

[Dark Enlightenment]

They're. They're going to think you're a hateful bigot no matter what.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

What have the last 10 years taught you? Have they taught you anything? I mean, I was thinking about this the other day. Now, 2013 was a pretty pivotal year because this year, Barack Obama started his second term and Pope Francis came on board. And that, to me, that's the year that, like, everything was just illegitimate. Now, I don't know if Barack Obama stole the election or not. Frankly, I don't think there's been an honest election in Philadelphia since.

[Pete Quinones]

I don't know.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Ever. But at least. At least in the 20th century. Like, there's never been an honest election in Philadelphia in the 20th century, so.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And this is one of those things where. To your point about the substack, like, why should anyone in Philadelphia have the vote? Why should they choose anything? Look at their community. Look around. It's full of trash. Look at Kensington right now and tell me that anyone who lives in Kensington should have a say in anything. Find the one dude who's on his mode and in that neighborhood and make him king of the block. Right? Like, find the one dude in that neighborhood who. Who mows his lawn and keeps his house decent and just. Just hand him high middle, no justice. Like, yeah, you can shoot anybody you need to shoot or whatever. Just. Just make this community worth living in for decent people.

[Pete Quinones]

Again, you don't. You don't understand. If we have the ability to choose who we associate with. China is going to march right in here and take us over. This is, you know, I'm not even. That's not even a straw man. People say that all the time. Oh, if there's, if there's secession and you know, this, the country broke up into six or seven different pieces, China would march right in. How is China not marching right in when you have a guy who's himself in the White House and you have a trans military?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, the Chinese have dirt on. China doesn't need to march anywhere. They own the White House. Clinton started selling the Democratic Party to the Chinese in the 90s. Does anyone else remember that a California senator had a Chinese spy being their private limo driver for years? The Chinese own the west coast Democratic

[Pete Quinones]

Party,

[Dark Enlightenment]

California, Washington, Oregon. They have huge intelligence gathering operations at every major university in America. The Confucius Center. You think that they, well, they need to physically conquer America. No, they don't. No, they don't. They've already. They'll get it without firing a shot.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I heard this, this Baptist church down in Auburn was talking about how they were moving to a bigger place because they were growing and they're like, yeah, and you know, this building, we're going to use the money we sold from this building. You know, we sold it to the Chinese Bible study that's been meeting here. I'm like, no, you just sold it to China.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

A Chinese Bible study is not buying the building. I'm sorry. Sorry to tell you guys.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No, no, they're not. Well, and even if they are, you know, good, solid, let's just for a second assume that these are the persecuted minority of Christians agenda, which is a real thing. Like Chinese Christians are horribly, horribly mistreated. What are they doing in Alabama? Like, bro, why are you here? Like, like we, we needed one other, like, strange, unassembled minority. Like, like we kind of have the one we. The one we have is enough. Why are you here?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I think it's a lot, A lot come from China to study at Auburn and then they end up staying.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Why?

[Pete Quinones]

I don't.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Why is Auburn being like, oh, it's okay. Well, like, let's just have.

[Pete Quinones]

Because it would be racist to, you know, to say that certain people can't live in certain places, you know, just like, you know, but it's not racist

[Dark Enlightenment]

or evil to just price out like ordinary people from living in certain places. Like, oh, you're a middle class person. You don't deserve to be safe when you sleep at Night.

[Pete Quinones]

Or. It's not. It's not evil or racist to. If people want to be a citizen of your country to make them take a blood test and, yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Can't get married without the approval of religious authorities. Yeah. Like, oh, and you can have a wall.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And ethno and tariffs and my Holocaust, bro.

[Pete Quinones]

My Holocaust.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right.

[Pete Quinones]

Well.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And that's. That's why the reason I wanted to talk about this and thank you very much for having me on and indulging in the discussion, is this is all on purpose. It's being done deliberately. And as Ewan Thomas have so brilliantly explicated, it's the Nuremberg regime. The second you say. And I've seen this happen.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The second you say, well, I just think that we should do something to make sure that ordinary people should be able to have a decent house and live decent. Within three steps of the argument, you get to, well, but that's the Holocaust. It's not even. It's not even an exaggeration. If you say, okay, well, we need to control immigration because it's driving up housing prices and it's making certain things unlivable. Or we need to not allow Section 8, like in the article I just sent you in Providence Village so people can afford to live here and be safe. Like, well, that's racist. Well, no, it's not. It's just enfisting on a certain standard behavior. Well, the disparate impact. Well, who cares about disparate if that's just the way people are? What are you, some kind of Nazi? You think everyone, like, is, like, determined behaviors determined by genetics, and no black people are capable of behaving decently? I didn't say that. But the odds are pretty good that they're not. So what?

[Pete Quinones]

It's like I've told people. I have had a lot of black friends in my life, and as. As individuals, I'm fine. Once they get into groups, that's where the problem starts. Oh, yeah. No matter how good.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No matter how good they are, everyone's got a cousin, Pookie, it's gonna be staying over at his cousin house for the weekend and cutting. Pookie's gonna have eight buddies that are all members of the Crips. And someone's gonna invite game member the Bloods over and they're gonna start shooting each other. And lo and behold, you're gonna start digging forth 45 slugs out of your wall, or, pardon me, 9 millimeters, not 1978 anymore. You're gonna start digging. I like and Then do you go, oh, well this was fine. Or do you move or you. Or the PR or. The easier thing to say is to say, look decent, well functioning black dude.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. There was, there was a shooting.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Solve your problems. Solve your problems in your community and don't make your problems my problems.

[Pete Quinones]

About 40 minutes south of me in a town called Dadeville, there was a shooting at a sweet 16 party a few months ago. This was like just before we moved up here and you know, it was all, it was the usual suspects and

[Dark Enlightenment]

of course it was.

[Pete Quinones]

Yes.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Every single time. It's that way, right? Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

And you, when I went on, there was. There's a guy who does like these YouTube videos and he goes around to like Alabama towns and he just like drives through him and reviews them and he like just all of a sudden did this special video where he was saying, you know, the reason that this happened is because of racism. The reason that these black people are killing each other is because of historic racism here. And I'm like, you stupid Mexican. I mean, what, what the are you even talking about? And that's what they go. Their brains are. I mean, and this guy, this isn't a guy who's like openly lying, you know, who's just like going on there to propagandize. He's like being all emotional and this is what his emotions bring out. His emotions bring out that the reason black people kill each other is because at some point in time they were slaves or their ancestors were slaves.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Never mind that the, nevermind that the ancient Egyptians said these people are like this. And it's literally the exact same. They're dumb, they're violent, they're, you know, much, you know, like Arab slave traders have written about how they're much akin, you know, like Indian slave traders. Like literally every, everyone from all over the world. Europeans, Arabs, subcontinental Indians, Egyptians, they've all had the same. The exact same.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it's, it's observations. It's really interesting when all, when whole bunches of groups in different civilizations have the same opinion about certain groups of people and you're supposed to ignore that. Like every single one of them was wrong.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Across thousands of years.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean we're not, yeah. We're not talking about, oh, you know, in from 1619 to 1865. No, we're talking about like thousands of

[Dark Enlightenment]

years and thousands of miles.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Every country groups go into.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right.

[Pete Quinones]

People are like, we can't live with them.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And another group that same thing applies to is our Hebraic friends. Right, yeah, yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, it's like. Well, yeah, I mean, it's the old joke, you know, if I had, if I had 109 girlfriends who kicked me out of their house, I guess I, you know, I had 109 shitty girlfriends who were just, you know, they just hated me because of who I am.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, that's it. You know, I'll close with this. I put this up on Telegram a few days ago. Number one, our places are nice their suck. Two, they'll never leave us alone. Three, they'll follow us everywhere we go. Four, they're completely unreasonable. And five, they're trying to make it impossible to tell the truth about items one to four. Yeah, that's the, that's the root of the housing crisis right there. Because the second somebody gets some money,

[Pete Quinones]

like,

[Dark Enlightenment]

you know how the media lies and tells all these people that, like, be honest. Just, just like, like I've seen better looking girls at, like to check out at Costco than are like beauty pageant winners in Africa, like straight up, just like go to any local Costco and, and, and you know, in a decent, decent area, right? And she's going to be a bit, you're going to find a girl that's just better looking than, you know, beauty pageant winners in Senegal or Congo or wherever. Right? Or Bolivia or whatever. Like, or Ms. Bolivia is going to be like 97, you know, Iberian. Yeah, right.

[Pete Quinones]

Or German.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, something like that. But the, the, They're told, oh, all these, all these gorgeous women are interested in you. You just need to get there and they'll, they'll throw themselves at your feet. Of course it's a lie and it's not true. But, but that's what they're told, right? And, and, and speaking of like people who are earning too late, I know you saw this and I, I hope you find this as hilarious as I did. You know, old Megan McArdle, right. I am finding it increasingly difficult to general explanations for El Salvador's crime decline other than, quote, absolute savagery works like, this is the problem. Like, okay, Megan McArdle, childless woman who married a Jew who's been yammering on about freedom and markets and libertarianism for, you know, the 20 years or 25 years I've been following politics. You know, you've literally wasted millions of people's time. Like all you've done is just lie. I don't even think she did it on purpose. I think she's just, just not capable of ascertaining the truth because she's a woman. She's been married to a Jew who doesn't have any children. But this is what we're trying to stop. It's like, yes, yes, Naib Bukele is the greatest statesman in the western hemisphere, possibly the world. Why? Because he just said, hey, you have a face tattoo. You should probably be in jail. Like, if you have, if you have a gigantic 13 tattooed on your forehead, I'm just gonna go with, you're probably a member of a criminal gang and we're gonna throw you in jail.

[Pete Quinones]

And they have there, you know, that's, I mean, the guy is, the guy's cleaned up his country. I mean, the guy's, he's. I think somebody on his, on his behalf made some claims about murder disappearing, but that doesn't happen when you have humans. But I mean, the murder rate in, in, in El Salvador has just dropped, you know, So I mean, what's the problem, right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's like people are safe, ordinary, decent people are safe now.

[Pete Quinones]

No, it's, I mean, I, when I saw what he was doing, I'm like, and they should be doing that here. I wish we had someone who could do that, who would do that here. It's like, oh, well, if somebody, once somebody does that, there are going to be, you know, innocent people are going to be swept up in it and everything like that. It's like I'm, I. Okay. And innocent people always get hurt.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, it's, yeah, like that's, that's how this works. And innocent people are going to get like. Speaking of people getting hurt, I'm sure you saw the video of those two teens in Las Vegas running down that old man on the bicycle. I mean, he's the former.

[Pete Quinones]

Oh, you mean, you mean the two, the two obviously Hispanic teens that when they were booked, their race was put down as white.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, I think one guy was black and one guy was Hispanic with like a face tattoo.

[Pete Quinones]

Okay, yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And okay, like, but like he has a tattoo on his cheek. Just throw him in jail. Just, just anybody with anybody with a tattoo above the collarbone, they obviously make bad decisions. You know, is, is she like, you know, is the person with the tattoo like, you know, a dumb 19 year old white girl be like, yeah, sweetheart, get that removed. Or is she like a, a dude with like teardrop tattoos on his. Next to his eye? Like, just, just take that guy and throw him in jail or make it possible so that you can write a law that says like, hey, decent people with families don't have to live around dudes with face tattoos. And that's the, you know, why is housing costing so much? Well, because you're paying a premium to get away from people who will do things like randomly run down old men on bicycles. And even then, that's no guarantee that you're going to be able to, like, avoid it. And this is the problem is that ordinary, decent Americans, I mean, in, like, conservative types, have been gaslit into almost being kind of pseudo libertarian because they can't, can't actually collectivize anything because that's Nazism. Of, of not being able to advocate for themselves and believing that there are individual solutions to collective problems is nonsense. And so when Glenn Beck tells you, oh, we just need to go back to the Constitution and everything will work out like, no, what you need to do is pass a law that says decent people deserve to live free, as free from impediment by undecent people as possible. And if you're the sort of dude who's dumb enough to get a tattoo on your face, ordinary people should be like, yeah, I don't want to live around you.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, you saw what, you saw Glenn Beck's latest right from yesterday. Yeah. Making the sign of the cross in front of a Jew. You should, you should know that that's not allowed. Yeah, okay, now I'm gonna do it now. I'm gonna do it all the time. No, I'm just gonna walk around doing it.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, he's an apostate who's. Yeah. Not, not a big fan of Mr. Beck, but. And, and he's. He knows exactly what we know. He knows everything we know. He just, Someone sold him. He, he was getting down the rabbit hole back in like 2011, 20, 2013. And someone showed him just, you know, the other side of the Zepper film and was told, this is how far you can go in there. No farther. And that's what he did. But. But pretending that there's that right. You know, how many problems could be solved if you just said, hey, look, no. No one with a face tattoo. No one in Ms. 13. No one. No, you know, no black men between the ages of, I don't know, 12 and 50.

[Pete Quinones]

Somebody commented, said under one of my posts on Twitter yesterday, and he said, talking about, you know, just getting called fascist, he said, fascism possess. Possesses perennial appeal for a reason. It is the, it is ultimately the ideology of unvarnished nature. Accusing someone of being a fascist is to accuse them of being a human being unaccustomed to self cuckery. Many more such cases will appear.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, like you're the ideology of water was wet and fire burns. Yep. Basically. Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

And I like people who, like people who come at me and they're like, they're like, oh, fat. Oh. Oh, fascist. You know the fascist. The fascists would have killed you. Right. And I'm like, so you've never heard of the Falange in Spain? Right. Are you people retarded?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, yeah, they are. That's, that's, that's the problem. They don't know that. That literally, I mean, Vidcon Quisling was, has been. His name has been maligned to the point of.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

He was a Lutheran. Oswald Mosley was Anglican.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Kadriani was Orthodox. Metaxas was orthodox. Franco and Salazar were Catholics. Mussolini was a Catholic. The Arrow Cross Party was Christian. And this isn't me saying this. This is Paul Gottfried saying this. Fascism is the liturgical Christian response to Bolshevistic subversion. That's all it is. And you can't. And for all those people who, you know, the Catholic types who want to just restore distributism or whatever, like, I get the idea. It's very attractive. Here's the thing. If you live in a world where your artisanal handmade widgets cost 10 times as much and take three times as long to produce as the mass produced widget down the street, and the mass produced widget down the street is 90 or 95% as good as your artisanal hand produced widget, you're going to get buried. And we, you can't undo the industrial revolution. You're never, you're never like, like, look at what's happening in Ukraine right now. Well, our, our artisanal hand, hand made artillery shells are morally superior to the mass produced artillery shells of the Russians. How's that working out? It's a production game and it has been for 400 years. You know, England was able to win because they were able to build more ships. The only reason the Soviets didn't lose World War II is we, the United States, produced tons and tons and tons of stuff and sent it to them by the truckload. We sent them 10,000 aircraft from Montana up through Canada, through Alaska and all the way across Siberia, literally halfway around

[Pete Quinones]

the world

[Dark Enlightenment]

the long way. Like that. That's some dedication. And it's literally just the stuff making stuff. The Chinese will beat the pants off of us. And in whatever war that, you know, a war over Taiwan, because the Chinese can actually make things. The Russians are winning their war because they can make things. And you know what In China or Russia, they don't waste money on financial schemes and constantly swapping properties back and forth because they constantly have to move away from people who have tattoos on their face and run down old men in the street. I'm pretty sure if you did that in China, just randomly, where a non Chinese person who just randomly ran over a old Chinese man in the street and then posted up on social media, I'm pretty sure the Chinese, you wouldn't even make it to the courtroom. Now China is a sociopathic, you know, bug people country, so they do randomly just run each other over. But I'm pretty sure that if you were a non Chinese person who just killed an old Chinese man who was well respected in his community, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be this whole hand wringing about whatever caused him to be, you know, do this, you know, there wouldn't be people, you know, to get back to your point about the dude who went to this thing in Alabama, you know, this Mexican guy who's here, oh gosh, this racist. Why should I share a community? Why should I be forced to, to share a polity with someone who's too stupid to understand that it's racial? Yeah, why? You shouldn't, you shouldn't.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, you know, that's culture is everything. And there's no civic, national. That's not a culture, that's just a. I don't even know what it was.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And until, until you deal with all of these problems, right? Until you deal with the racial incoherence, until you deal with the violence, until you deal with the usury and the central banking, right, People just aren't gonna be able to live decent. And we're not talking like super extravagant homes or anything like that. We're talking a home for a family.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And it could be, it could be, it could just be, you know, a three bedroom apartment in Queens or a row house in Philadelphia. We're not talking, you know, lords of broad acres here. We're talking ordinary people living decent lives in a decent place that they can afford.

[Pete Quinones]

Yes. Well, let's end it. I'm gonna go go about my day. I always appreciate talking to you. Do you want me to plug your Telegram channel? Is there anything else?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, I've got the two. I'll send you both one's app band. So if you're still foolish enough to. If you're still foolish enough to not direct down download directly from Telegram. First of all, get off of Apple just because. But if, if you're still downloading directly, like Download directly from telegram.org and install or use a fork or something like that. But. But, you know, all the interesting stuff is app banned because someone said something spicy and true. Like, it's banned because it's true. It's not banned because if I was. If I was saying that the moon was made of green cheese, no one would bother banning me.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Because I've said true things that offend the regime. That's why I've been banned from things. Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

Yep. Telegram always get it off of. Get it off their website and never get it off the app Store. App Store will censor. There'll be things. People will be sending you things. You'll be like, I can't read it. And then you'll. You'll know why. Because you got it off the app Store. Get it off their website. Every. Everything I have Telegram downloaded on came off their website. So I can see everything. So ridd. Appreciate it always. Thank you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Thank you very much, Pete.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I mean, people can back this up and start. Let's just get going and keep you waiting here. Everyone, I want to introduce you to Dark Enlightenment. And how are you doing today?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Great, man. Thanks for having me. It's been a real pleasure getting to be your friend and get to know you and listen to your program. And I've got to say, I've gone through probably at least 100 episodes of the Pete Can Earn it show. I think my first discovered you like last year on Tom woods show or something. And I forget exactly how I. I found you, but I did, and then I just eaten it up and you've been kind enough to have me on multiple times and I really appreciate it and I really love the program and it's kind of cool that we're buddies. I find that amazing.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, Yeah, I appreciate the. I appreciate the kind words. I really do. I. I enjoy your work a lot too. You are a fan favorite whenever you come on.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So I found that astonishing. Really, I do. I find that really weird. It's good to be here.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Now that we finished jerking each other off. Well, you know, why don't we start with this? I mean, the whole prager thing is your origin story, you know, is. It's a part of your origin story. I believe. I believe it's one of those things that, you know, you. You look at and you're like, oh, that's what got me here. But then you look at and you're like, this is really evil. But what, you want to start just talking about some current Events. And you want to talk about this?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. So R. And McIntyre actually, it. Who's on the Blaze, who's on Glenn Beck's network, that I think it's astonishing that that's. That's a real thing that, you know, had a show yesterday, day before something like that, talking about this whole Satanism in the Iowa State Capitol thing. And he did a fantastic job dismantling the whole. But my First Amendment requires us to let Satanists. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. And anyone who says it does is an enemy of civilization and not a conservative. They're a flaming communist who should be exiled from the public square at a bare minimum and put in summer camp if most of them should be put in summer camp and everyone else should be barred from the public square. And you and I were talking about that privately about how it's just so absurd and anyone who, you know, wants to claim to be a libertarian or wants to live in an order liberty society like, you can't have people whose whole idea of the good is there is no good. You know, let be evil thou my good, as. As Milton put it, right. You can't have a society with someone like that. You can't have a society for some. Someone who thinks that something like abortion and, you know, like, is this is a positive good and there should be more of them and that it's a useful thing for society. Like, you know, I'm against it 100. And someone who, like, reluctantly comes to the conclusion that it's necessary in certain limited cases, might be. You might be able to share a society with that person. Right. The safe, legal, rare, you know, bullshit from. Can we swear. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Clinton was lying when he said that. But, but, you know, if someone who genuinely believe that you might be able to share a society with that person, the people who think like, oh, it's a positively good thing and I celebrate it and every abortion is wonderful and I think abortion is great. And I think, you know, no, no, there's no, there's no society with that person. And any hoppy and who or any libertarian who thinks that you can is either a joke or evil. And I was just thinking about, like, how did I get here such that. And for those of you who don't know, I'm in my mid-40s, graduated high school in the late 90s, and I drove for a living for many years after that. So I got a lot of drive time, a lot of windows, windshield time. This is before podcasts were Really a thing. And I was a late adopter, so I listened to a lot of different talk radio, sports, you know, at one time, brother had like three or four different local stations, you know, like, oh, such and such is Rush and such and such is, you know, Sean Hannity and whatever. And to be honest with you, like, Sean Hannity actively call. Cultivates an audience that's stupid. Like, Sean Hannity is stupid, and he's listening to him makes you stupid, and he wants his audience to be stupid. So when you get somebody like Mark Living or Dennis Prager or Michael Medved or any one of the other, notice what all three of those guys have in common besides being talk show host. They are deliberately trying to cultivate that audience that's maybe a little bit more on the ball as opposed to like the 97 IQ carpenter guy who's like, I love America and big trucks and war. Sean Hannity said so. Right. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that guy that couldn't be fixed by fixing this source of information as the Trump campaign shown. But for the most part, you know, certain talk show hosts cultivated, you know, an audience that was more interested in ideas. And to give you an example, Dennis Prager, you know, blew. Didn't graduate, but attended Columbia for graduate school and was invited to write for National Review and other places, you know, in his late early 20s, has three different, you know, set hours on his show where he'll talk about, you know, all what he calls the ultimate issues hour, you know, like atheism, God, things like that, and the Male Female hour. Right. So he'll kind of do proto red pill stuff like that. And he'll. And he'll do the Happiness Hour, Right? So he's got. Of the 15 hours a week he's got on his program, he'll dedicate three hours to these kind of, sort of, kind of edgy issues. And he doesn't do that because he wants people to have more information. Dennis Prager knows everything you and I know. He's a talk show host. Everyone who's an intellectual has known everything we know. They all read the Bell curve back in 1994. All of them did. If you, if you didn't read the bell curve in 1994, then you're not an intellectual, period. And it's your job to read things like the Bell Curve or Race War in high school, which Pete and I read. You can check that out on the channel or any number of things, right. Or more recent book, Christopher Caldwell's Age of Entitlement So Dennis knows all this stuff. And his job, I came to figure out later, and I figured it out over time, was to provide a functioning liberal society that let his people get away with whatever it is they get away with, or as much as they can get away with while providing a stable, functioning society for them to parasite off of. And that's, that's essentially what the, what the Levins and the Pragers and the other, you know, Jewish talks to hosts, that's, their job is to provide enough of a rationale for conservatism to, you know, for, for society to function. You know, Ben Shapiro is not just stupid. You know, the dude graduated Harvard at like 20 or something. He's, he's going to college early. Super smart guy. So why is he in favor of all this stuff? That's not true.

[Pete Quinones]

Why is he a talk show host? Yeah, there's the question. Somebody who graduates Harvard at 20, why is he a talk show host?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. You know, Michael Medved went to, went to school with the Clintons. I can't remember which school he went to, but he's, you know, like, you know, why are these people in these places? And, and the answer of course is is that their, their job from the system is to corral the right wing populist reaction against this stuff, against the destruction of the country, against the needless wars, against the massive inflation. I mean, Pete, we're roughly the same age, give or take five, six years. Was $20 an hour good money when you first started working?

[Pete Quinones]

If I would have made $20 an hour when I first started working, I would have eaten easily, been able to buy a house.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's not even survival wages now.

[Pete Quinones]

Yep.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So that's in one working lifetime, 30 years, $20 went from being, you know, like you could support a family on $20 an hour. Like you could, you could work and your wife could stay home type money. Or wife, wife could work part time kind of money. And now I just saw something someone posted on Twitter, I can't remember who, I'd love to give them credit, someone did an inflation adjustment calculation of whatever Bob Cratchit got paid in A Christmas Carol and it worked out to 1847 an hour inflation. So rather than engage in a systematic critique.

[Pete Quinones]

Right. Of

[Dark Enlightenment]

why has the value of money halved in. You're in my working lifetime.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Why, you know, are there $450 billion. Half a trillion dollars has been spent on the new arrivals in America just since Biden took office. Half a trillion dollars. The debt service is now more than the Defense Department. The 3 million illegal. Like, ask the average person who listens to NPR, right. How, how many illegal immigrants do you think came just in the Biden administration? Like, oh, you know, a million maybe? No, it's 3 million or more. Right. And I mean, that's gonna, that's destroyed the country.

[Pete Quinones]

It's, I mean, it has to be more than that.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, it's definitely more than that. But they'll admit to 3 million. Admit to at least 3 million.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, it's probably, I would say 5 million a year. It's probably 15 million in the last three years.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, probably. And again. Right. You know, if you're a serious intellectual, if you're an honest person, you've read things like the Age of Entitlement, you read the Bell Curve, you've read Jared Taylor, you've read Race War in High School, There's Nothing, or the coming AI revolution. You think of these things. What are these 87 IQ mestizos from Oaxaca and Guatemala and El Salvador gonna do in a world where there's AI everywhere?

[Pete Quinones]

They're going to help libertarians and ancaps build Ancapistan. How? That's what, that's, that's what I understand.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, they're just not like, like this is, this is the, like borders. You're like a spook, man. It's just an imaginary line in the sand, bro. Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

You know, unfortunately there's a lot of that it is.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And, and right. Like, what did, what did Han say? Those who embrace non family centered lifestyles must be physically removed from society. Is that the correct quote? I think that's the one that's stiff to me.

[Pete Quinones]

It's pretty close. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. So wait a minute, like you've got this mass invasion of military age men from South America and from, you know, into Europe, it's from Africa and Arabia. Like they're never, you know, between AI and the downward pressure on, you know, slipping down the rung as middle class jobs become done by AI and then, you know, people who would have done those middle class jobs get pushed down the scale. There's nothing for these people to do. And a serious society would, would address these problems. The talk shows would talk about them.

[Pete Quinones]

Right. This, this question that was just asked, I mean, I think it's a fair question, but flash ass, is it fair to say that connect is the gateway dose to this kind of circle for some people? And I would say, yeah, that sum though is, is very small, is that most people get stuck in there and they Never leave it. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Scott says Bill Buckley worked for the CIA. That's the origin of conning.

[Pete Quinones]

Like. Yep, that's true.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Think. Think about this, okay? I don't know if I've ever told a red pill story to this audience, but it'll be very brief. I graduated high school late 90s,

[Pete Quinones]

and

[Dark Enlightenment]

I did a job that had a lot of windshield time and kind of worked in Republican politics a little bit. You know, just volunteering and that kind of thing at my state. And I was very enthusiastic about George W. Bush because, like, we'd been attacked. And I was like, oh, thank God Al Gore didn't get elected. Things would be a disaster. We need to go get them in your abs, you know, And I had a lot of time to listen to a lot of different talk radio, and a lot of time, you know, I'm listening to npr and I listen to Rush, and I listen to sports. And, you know, pretty. When you're driving eight, ten hours a day, you get. You get some time to, you know, you know, when the commercial breaks are. And you skip them. Right. And I remember the first two years of the Bush administration, we got nothing done. Like, it was. There was 50 U.S. senators who were Democrats. 50 U.S. senators or Republicans, and the system said, oh, we can't do anything. 50 senators. You need 51 to pass things.

[Pete Quinones]

So

[Dark Enlightenment]

obvious. So there was a complete waste. The first two years of Bush administration, 2002, Republicans get 55 senators and the Supreme Court, and the president, who was a conservative Christian evangelical, he's gonna. We're gonna repeal Roe v. Wade. We're gonna, you know, pass school choice. We're gonna privatize Social Security. Let's. Let's go right. We're gonna, you know, we're gonna do something. Who. Ooh. And of course, you know, all we got for that was a lousy, unwinnable war that killed millions of Christians in Iraq and, like, destroyed their country. And now my cab drivers are all like, Assyrian. Assyrian Christians, Chaldan Christians from. From Mosul who, like, got out with, you know, nothing. And so. Right. And then I help with the Tea Party stuff and. And again, that got. We got nothing. And conning, you know, it puts you in this box and gives you these pseudo solutions because fundamentally, they're liberals. Establishment conservatives are large l. Liberals. They are Lockean liberals. The conversation, politically speaking, is between the left who says to conservatives, you are bad Rawlsian liberals. And the conservatives say to the liberals, you are bad Lockean liberals. And they're both right because they're Both wrong. Liberalism, capital L liberalism is impossible to salvage because the only way to make anything actually work in liberalism is to make an unprincipled exception. Right. Is to. You go to your Schmidt and say, yeah, we're not doing that. We're. We're saying, no freedom to do this thing. No freedom to. Well, what if the child consents though, right? Like, nope. What about Satan?

[Pete Quinones]

Public.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Nope. Right. Any society has an official religion. And this whole Satanism in Iowa, like, okay, the First Amendment as interpreted, effectively mandates state atheism because it says no truth claim could be backed by the force of the state. No truth claim. Can we. Can We. We. There's no truth claim in this society that is just assumed as valid. Every truth claim is equally invalid because Pete can say, create the one unum. Dam. And I can be like, I don't think that God exists at all. And we could both be like, well, you're wrong and I'm wrong or whatever. And the effective. What has effectively happened due to positive law and frankly, Jewish lies is no society or no legal framework exists for us to just say, no. This is beyond the pale of what we're able to tolerate. You know, I'd be okay with the society to say that you have to be able to, like, believe the Apostles Creed and in the inerrancy of scripture to hold office.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. There's a friend of mine sent me this. It was an article. It's up in Winnipeg in Canada, and we know how screwed Canada is. It's basically an article celebrating an LGBT TQ plus reimagining of Handel's Messiah as a way to push back expectations. And, you know, they basically said nothing musically is altered, but we're swapping gender roles, subverting them, said Paul, who is gay and conducting the concert. Well, I'm sorry, but in my libertarian paradise, I'm gonna crush those people. Yeah, it's not gonna happen. It's not going to happen in public, right? Yeah, it's not happening public.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The people who did the. The Biden family Christmas, you know, dance thing, the LMNOP qr QR QWERTY thing, where the strange, you know, White House Christmas stuff. They should all be arrested.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The people tearing down the, you know, reconciliation monument at Arlington.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, we're wanting to tear that down. They should all be arrested.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. I mean, deported. Deported would be like. That'd be like conservative. It would be. Yeah. I mean, deportation would be treating it nicely because a lot of people would like to go someplace else. But if you Just crush them. Then people know you're not going to do that in the future.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, and to. I kind of been rambling and you're going to.

[Pete Quinones]

The.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The problem is, right, there is no such thing as a secular society. This is one of Curtis Yarvin's great points. This is where I started breaking with the conservative Conservative, Inc. Because I had the time to, like, work it, and I was a single dude. I basically read at night and, like, listen to radio all day. And, you know, you can just see, right, that this whole idea of, like, I have to tolerate Satanism, well, then that means just our religion is Satanism. If there's Satanist public memorials or Satanist public statues, or we're tearing down Christian statues, or tearing down the cross in San Diego, or tearing down Statues of saints, St. Jude of Hero Sarah in California, or attempting to tear down the Sound of St. Louis in St. Louis, Missouri, or tearing down the statues of, you know, like, then we're just. Our public religion is, you know, anti white, anti Christian, anti male wokeness. That's just our public religion. And you're going to have a public religion no matter what. This whole idea that, you know, positive law types who all. But the Constitution says, you know, well, if all truth claims are equally invalid or equally valid, then all truth claims are invalid. Because if you can say the 2 and 2 is 4 and I can say 2 and 2 is 17, and we both have to be respected because of the First Amendment, then the First Amendment says you can lie, you can. You can deceive people, and that's acceptable. Now, Thomas Jefferson, for all that he was a heretic and had lots of other bad ideas, I'm pretty sure, like, he wouldn't have been okay with. And he was the most radical of all of them, I'm pretty sure, like, trannies in front of fifth graders would. Old TJ probably would have had you hung for that. I'm just gonna guess. And certainly the men who fought the revolution, the average farmer who was in, you know, the Continental army, they would have hung here really fast. There wouldn't have even been a discussion. And there's no. There's no way to reconcile certain visions of society. All of our religious problems internally are, in fact, political problems. Bad people are in power. There's nothing, you know, Pope is a whole separate issue, but he's a bad person in power needs to be removed. All of our political problems are, in fact, a theological issue of, like, normal people think that they share base assumptions with the left and they don't right. Leftists are evil. Capital E evil. And they're trying to destroy society because they hate Christianity, they hate God, they hate white people, they hate men,

[Pete Quinones]

they

[Dark Enlightenment]

hate America, they hate Europe, they hate pretty much everything good in the world, if anything, like established order or made things better or they hate it. They hate fossil fuels, they hate all good things. And so society saying that the First Amendment, rather than saying that the Presbyterian and the Methodist and the Baptist all can have like a church on Main street, and no one can say, well, you can't have a church here. It's not the same thing as saying, like, we have to have Satanists and Muslims and Buddhists and atheists be the, you know, moral arbiters of what's okay in our society. That's. That's ridiculous. It's literally insane.

[Pete Quinones]

I just want to let everyone know. You can super chat on YouTube, you can super chat on entropy. It's Christmas time. If you. I'm not asking it. I'm not expecting anything from anyone. I know that people are spending money this time of year. So, yeah, if you want. Only if you want to. And, yeah, but here, here's the thing, okay? All you have to do, once, once your eyes are open to this, you can go to any Dennis Prager type of person. Talk Ben Shapiro talk when they're talking about liberty, when they sound like you're on their way, when they sound like they're on your side, ask what you know. It's cui bono every time. How. Ask how they're benefiting from it. And ask yourself this. How. How are they going to benefit from it? And. And is it really going to benefit you at all? Or is it just playing to your principles? Does it feel. Does it sound really good? And it sounds like your principles, but really, if it happens, if whatever they're talking about were to come into fruition, which it never does, how is it going to help you? Or is it going to benefit them? And then once you get, once you start asking that question, you can start asking questions like, okay, if it's not benefiting me, and it doesn't seem to be benefiting anybody around me, it doesn't seem to be benefiting the United States at all, then who's. Then who's it benefiting? Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

So Dennis Prager has his American trinity that he's always talked about. He was pushing this many years ago, but, you know, e pluribus unum, in God we trust. And what was the third one? Liberty. Let me look this up. But like, okay, but E pluribus unum. What? Like which many are you talking about, Dennis? Am I supposed to, you know, 83 IQ, Congolese that are literally incapable of making a living in America and are violent, you know, like, like I'm supposed to just eat pluribus with them and liberty. What, Whose liberty? Like my liberty to say what I think. Or you know, are more of these people, like they'll blaspheme our Lord in public. But if I say, you know, n word in public, right. I'm going to get fired. What do you mean by liberty? Like liberty to do what, you know, butt stuff in communism, right? Like this is not. And then, you know, in God we trust. Which God? You know, when, when Dennis Prager says God and I say God, we, you're using the same word. But we don't mean the same thing.

[Pete Quinones]

You know, it's like what Israel Shahak talked about in, in Jewish history, Jewish, Jewish religion, Jewish history. Is that because the, the person in who's listening to the message from a preacher, a rabbi, doesn't matter, but he's specifically talking about rabbis, doesn't have to believe in the kabbalistic spectrum of gods and their satanic kind of chants that they do and how they pray that Christians would die three times a day. But over centuries, what they're teaching their people actually starts to resonate in a way. And I compare it to the fact that most people walking around the United States do not teach, can't quote the. The U.S. constitution, but they have an idea. They're walking around with the spirit of it. Even though it's a dead. Even though it's dead, there's nothing it can do. It's not. They're walking around with the spirit of it and that's really bad because they're expecting the Constitution to save them. In much the same way, you know, the average person who's sitting in the, you know, who's sitting there listening to somebody talk, who has very is and is a Satanist, basically is teaching their people that's coming out and it's affecting them even though they don't know it. Does that make sense?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. And again or in McIntyre, he made a great point. The left is correct about the Constitution. It is a living document. It is whatever the people who are alive today say it is. Right. Because this is, this is the problem with Protestantism and liberalism itself. Texts do not interpret themselves. They have to be interpreted. So they're always mediated by men. And that's what tradition is for. And that's what a Hierarchy is for is so that you can say, no, this is what, this is what this text means. And you know, you might be you and your Bible under a tree or you and your constitution under a tree, but the people with guns and 90% of your neighbors or whatever are going to say, nope, no, we think it means this and if you disagree with us, we'll shoot you. Look at what happened to, you know, Randy Weaver, right? He had an interpretation of the Constitution that was perfect, far more in keeping with what the original intent was. But the people with the guns said, no, we don't think that the Constitution means that. And you know, look what they did to him. You know, David Koresh, for all of his belt flaws was, was a guy who believed in the Constitution, believed in the Bible and the people who, you know, like, so this is what that, that whole like, oh well, don't compete for power because competing for power is immoral. You know, libertarianism, self looking ice cream cone stuff is nonsense. It's because if you don't have any power, if your ideology is like using power is immoral. So I'm going to cede power to the people who use power against me is totally self defeating. I, I can't remember when you posted it, but there's that hilarious meme of like, you know, the stick of state power where the dude in the nose step on snake hat or stone step on snake T shirts. Like, nope, using this would be immoral. And then he gets beaten to death by like the dude with multiple hair and face piercings. Yeah, I remember which meme you, when you posted that.

[Pete Quinones]

But I remember it was a while ago.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, I saved that meme though. And because the Right. So if Dennis Prager said, look, I'm a Jew, we, we, we've done really well here in America and people should. And, and Protestants were really good to us. We should, we should, you know, appreciate that and promote like Protestant wasp, Protestant Christianity in America and we shouldn't undermine that society. Right. So Dennis will actually very famously got in trouble gotten, you know, got in trouble for people with like saying, you know, Keith Ellison shouldn't have taken his oath of office when he was House representatives, when he was in the House of representing from Minnesota and he took his oath of office on the Quran.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But Dennis will sit there and go, well, you know, I mean there should be Muslims in America. Like, like we can't, we shouldn't get to be able to keep them out. We shouldn't just say, yeah, no, no Muslims, no Negroes in the, in the, like it's perfectly reasonable to say, yeah, you know, on average, just Negroes aren't capable of like actually debating stuff. They're too narcissistic, they're too stupid, they're too unable to. To unapathetic to the really be representatives in a, in a representative democracy. So yeah, we're just going to keep them out. Right. Like show me one who's, who's done anything other than like pass money out or just make a fool of themselves. John Lewis, Julia Jackson Lee. I mean there's not one in the entire. You know. And something that just occurred to me, I posted a little bit about on Telegram. Everyone. I assume because you've. You're woke. You knew Obama was gay in like 2007, right?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean it was obvious right from the start.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. Okay. So I was also one of those guys is like, this dude's gay. Everyone, guys, he's gay. Right. And now, you know, 20 years later or no. Yeah. So he first came to prominence in 2002. Do you know how Star Trek is indirectly responsible for President Barack Obama?

[Pete Quinones]

No.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. Funny story. Actress Jerry Ryan, who played Seven of Nine on Star Trek Voyager.

[Pete Quinones]

I know. Yeah, I know, right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

And Boston Legal and other stuff. She was married to a fellow who's literally named Jack Ryan, you know?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Dartmouth. Dartmouth. Harvard educated investment banker guy, you know, who was like, they divorced in the late 90s and his divorce, their divorce records of like he liked taking me to weirdo sex clubs and like showing off the fact that I was like super hot. I was like, well, that's a little weird. But like if I was married to Jerry Ryan, I'd show off, like to be honest, fam. Right. Like, like maybe not that way. That's a little weird. That's a little, that's, that's a little uncouth. It should. Shouldn't happen. But like they'd been divorced for years by that point and those records got unsealed and those records were used to humiliate him and basically cost and race. He dropped out and then they put up like a token opposition of I want to say Alan Keys, who's actually not a bad guy.

[Pete Quinones]

I remember.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Anyway, so Barack Obama cruises to easy election in the Senate and then he gives that big speech at 2004 convention and. Or maybe, yeah, 2004, when they nominate John Kerry and it's basically like, oh, this guy's gonna be. You know,

[Pete Quinones]

anyone who was watching it knew that they were grooming him.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. So like they knew he was Gay. The CIA knew he was gay back in, like. Like. And,

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, I knew about Larry Sinclair in 2006 or 2007.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, me too.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. So would he have made the Senate election? Would all those blacks in Chicago have voted for him if they knew he was gay? Would he have won the presidential election if John McCain had known? Like, if John McCain had said, my opponent is a closeted homosexual who uses crack cocaine. Right. And this is all. I mean, if you look in the right places, Larry Sinclair, other people would have told you. Right? A serious media. Right. A serious conservative media. Dennis Prager. Well, I don't know. Believe in. No, if you were really about winning, really about, like, Barack Obama did more damage to this country than any president we've ever had. And all these people who would decry. Oh, look what he's doing. He's trying to divide us by race. Like, no, he's. Of course he's trying to divide us by race. He's was probably born in Kenya. He's a mulatto. He's gay. His wife might be a tranny. Like, I mean. I mean, of course he's going to destroy this country. He hates you. He hates you because you're white and because you're Christian. His father was a black radical Muslim bigamist. We're supposed to just sit here and be like, oh, this is okay, you know, like, Ilhan Omar shouldn't be in the. In the house because, like, oh, she married your brother, or whatever, like, fraud. But, like, just because I don't think that people from, like, the least functional society on earth should come to this country and then be like, you know what? You guys need to change. You need to be more like us. Like, no, you just be quiet. Just be glad that you live in a society that functions and be quiet. And not only should you, like, be kicked out of Maine and kicked out of Minnesota, kicked all these other places that they're, you know, making significantly worse, but, like, you shouldn't even get to complain. You're a Somali. Like, your people do tribal warfare and pirates. That's all you do. You're. You're literally some of the dumbest people on the face of the planet. But a serious conservative media. And this is where Dennis Prager is such an effective gatekeeper. Why Ben Shapiro is such a defective gatekeeper. Because he says, oh, the second you start bringing up IQ or sex realism, you're a Nazi. And that's. That's. That, you know, that's the N word for white people, right? Nazi. And, and I know you've been dealing with that lately of people, you know, calling you a Nazi for like. Wait a minute.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I care. Right? Yeah, yeah, but it's, you know, it's also like, it's like, oh, am I, I don't know, never even really thought about it, you know.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, here do I, do I subscribe to the tenets of national socialism? I never. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, say what you will, at least, but at least it's an ethos. Right? I mean.

[Pete Quinones]

Yes, thank you. That's a good one. So good.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. Which is an ethos, unlike these nihilists, Donnie. Right. And that's the Cohen brothers, like some of the most honest, like, self loathing Jews you've ever seen. Yeah, but like, you know, like, so why are these people not talking about that? Why are they not talking about the fact that like, you know, at least 15 million, 15 million people are in this country. Probably a full 15 to 20% of this country, at least, at least is illegal immigrants or their descendants. Their average IQ is 90 something. And we live in a society where, you know, Stefan Molyneux, God bless him, I don't know what he's up to these days, but you know, he pretty conclusively proved like, you can't have a democracy in a society with, you know, vicube falls below 92. So how are you, how are these people going to, you know, make their way in the world if they can't understand a budget? You know, this, the school, something as simple as like your local school district budget and they can't understand it. How are they going to vote for people? How are they going to participate in, you know, town meetings? How are they going to go to the local school board? You know, they're not. This is not, you know, this is supposed to be a republic of Anglo Saxon yeoman farmers with like a sprinkling of like, oh, you're Italian, I guess you can come in. I, you know, like, like there's there was no.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, I guess, I guess every society needs a couple of, you know, high time preference Mediterraneans. Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, that's. That's who you want. Your, that's who you want, you know, guarding your borders is people who smell of cynicism and garlic being like, hey, what are you doing here? Like, what do you. I don't trust you. Why? You look funny. Right? Like that's what we want. Right. But like, if conservative media was serious, you know, and Tucker Carlson, Jack Posobie just had a conversation at human events where they conceded 90% of what we were saying 15 years ago because without, you know, the collectivism stuff, because that's just where things are at. You know, my first presidential vote was for Harry Brown in 2000. But so I've known about Congressman Paul for close to 30 years now. And, you know, if that was the kind of libertarians we were talking about, we could live in a libertarian society. You know, personally, Ron Paul is about as conservative as you get, right? Keeps, keeps himself in good shape, you know, married to the same lady for what, 60 years, something like that,

[Pete Quinones]

you

[Dark Enlightenment]

know, no vices, really. Doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't. I mean, this is the kind of guy that our society was built for. And you can't have a society of, you know, and Carlson admitted it like, like in the Great Depression, you know, we had, post Civil War, we had all these other things. Look around. How are we going to, you know, in a serious conservative media would actually talk about this stuff? And so if you ask yourself the question, why don't they. Why isn't, you know, Ben Shapiro, as a graduate of Harvard being like, what is this ridiculous woman doing as the president of Harvard University? You know, Adams is, used to be the president. You know, people who are related to the president, you know, Quincy's and Adams's and, you know, real serious people from real serious families used to be the president of Harvard University. What, what is this ridiculous plagiarist lady doing here? And not one of them, not one of these conservatives will say it's because she's black. And all black academics are frauds. All of them. You know, Cornel west is broke despite the millions of dollars he's been given because lo and behold, right, he's been married like five times and has multiple children out of wedlock and spins like a drunken sailor and like, oh, so he's just black, right, My brother. What you must understand is that I have no impulse control and no time preference because of the natural environment in where my peoples come from, where food just fell out trees and so we didn't have to plan for winter or anything. So I just, you know, I sees it and I grabs it and I likes it. And you can put a PhD behind my name, but I'm still just a, you know, shucking and jiving like that's. And a serious conservative movement. Dennis Prager, if he was serious about preserving the kind the, you know, Protestant WASP America with, you know, a little bit of Catholics and the occasional Jewish, would call that out, would be honest about that would say, hey, we want more white people, we want more Protestants, we want more, you know, we shouldn't just be open to everybody. But that's what they are. They're open to everybody. Because a coherent Protestant America with a sprinkling of Catholics could actually oppose these people's agenda. And that's the problem. That's why, that's why Ben Shapiro, who knows everything I know, right. He's read the Bell Curve. Ben Shapiro knows. Ben Shapiro knows absolutely everything I know in terms of race and IQ and time preference and all of that. He knows all of it. So why is he lying about who could come to America and be successful?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, still on YouTube, I don't know if I want to say it, but.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, right. The question answers itself.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You, you know.

[Pete Quinones]

Right. Yeah. I mean, he's getting something personal out of it, but not only is he getting something personal out of it, but his first. And he proved this. And that's probably the best thing that's happened in the last couple months is the revelation that a lot of people, see, have realized that these are people who, and maybe it's not necess. It wouldn't be a bad thing if it wasn't so damaging to other people, but they had well alone, perhaps their first, their first loyalty is to their own tribe. And that's not a bad, that's not a bad thing. The only problem is, is basically since 1945, they've made it criminal for anyone else to believe that and to live like that.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right? And, and that's the, that's the, the unprincipled exception of like those people, particularly conservative Jews are all about advancing conservative Jewish interests. They'll rail endlessly. Dennis Prager, why are so many Jews far leftists? Look, Dennis, I don't know, but it seems to me that if 90% of the Jews are far leftist, it seems to me it's pretty good odds or 80% or whatever it is that I should be able to say, you know, I don't really want any Jews in my country because 8 out of 10 of them are far left communist agitators. And the. Dennis will say, well, you can't keep Jews out just because, you know, we're all a bunch of communist subversives. Why not? It's my country, isn't it? You know, Tucker Carlson again to bring up Tucker and like, so my ancestors fought in the War of 1812. This is my country. What are you doing here? Why are you, you know, like, who voted?

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, who, who voted that APAC would have more power than any lobbying. Lobbying group in this country's history.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. Who voted for that? Who elected Larry Fink head of the financial markets? Why. Why can the ADL and the splc. I'm reasonably good at this, I think. Why can't I open my own drive time talk radio show and compete and have advertisers and say the things I say that are true, not behind a pseudonym. Oh, because the SPLC and the ADL and all these other, you know, Jewish NGOs would destroy my life. And that's one of the reasons I so admire you, Pete, is you just said, I don't care many frego, as they say, and, and, and did it anyway. But, like, why, you know, if we're all about the marketplace of ideas, Why isn't there a real marketplace who's, who's telling the truth, right? And this is that unprincipled exception that they're always indulging in of like, you know, oh, racism is bad. Well, first of all, define racism. And secondly, why is it bad? You know, you're racist against honkies. Why can't I be racist back?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, because you're colonizers. Isn't that the word? Colonizer? Those white people are colonizers. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

What about the Irish? Well, they all left to other places, so they, they, they just, they have to reciprocate and let a bunch of people into their country because they all went to other countries. You mean white European countries that wanted them there, like the Australian, Australia and New Zealand and, and America and Canada that were like, please show up. We need the labor, please. Yeah, before there was a welfare state.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, it's that complete.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The only consistent thing. And I know, you know, this for the audience probably knows all this is, the only consistent thing is it is against white Christian Western civilization.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's just against that. And that's the, that's the problem with Dennis Prager is, is a man I greatly admired who died about 10 years ago, closer to 15 now. But Larry Auster, I found him through his links to, you know, when I was still an establishment conservative. John Derbyshire and Steve Saylor and stuff would link him. And he was an immigration guy from back in the 90s, and he was himself ethnically Jewish, but he was a convert to Christianity and I think genuinely a convert. But he would attack Jews as, like, As like Dennis Prager is, at the same time insists on the mass immigration of Muslims. It's like, okay, well then Dennis Prager is a subversive and he needs to go and he needs to be like, banned off the airwaves because he's using his platform on the airwaves, the public airways, to like, destroy the country. So maybe that shouldn't be allowed.

[Pete Quinones]

I know that it's kind of subversive that he's doing it from Sweden, but, you know, at least Barbara Lerner Spector comes out and says exactly what she's doing. I mean, it's subversive, but it's openly subversive. Dennis, there are people in this country who believe and people who, you know, call themselves conservatives, good people who believe. Dennis Prager is their friend.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, I've actually, when I was in college, I went to go see him and there were lots of really wonderful low church Protestant people, the type of people who built this country, for whom this country was built, you know, who, you know, Dennis, They. They would go and they would hear Dennis preach at their church and how ethical monotheism is. The mission of America and American Israel are the two nations in the world whose, you know, reason of the ETRA is, Is. Is spreading, you know, ethical monotheism. And so, you know, you should love Israel and Jews. Like, it's. It's really terrible. They've been lied to you so much. But that's what, that's what they, these people believe. And it's really, really terrible.

[Pete Quinones]

I'm gonna go over. We got like four super chats. Eric says for $3 over an entropy Pete, you statist. Yeah. Then he goes three. Then he sends $3, another $3 and says, no offense taken. Manoan, who's been in the Comments here on YouTube says, Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thanks for. Thanks for all the good content. Fifty super chat. That's ten. Thank you, Manon. I appreciate that. And two, thank you for generosity. Yes. And tunes. Five dollar Super Chat says I've referenced de's model of our guy. Our guy way forward, multiple times this year. Death to America. Long live Americans.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, I'm glad I'm proving useful. I can't even remember what that is, but run my mouth so much that I was.

[Pete Quinones]

I was trying to remember too. So.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, thank you very much. And, and you know, folks, I've given to Pete in the past. I plan to give more to the Pete in the future. Support the people that support you. You know, if you're still paying for cable, please stop. Find. Find decent people who are in our thing to do, you know, you know, pocket. Pocket half your cable bill and save and, you know, Spend it on food because you need to anymore. But

[Pete Quinones]

yeah, Dr. Prepper here says I, yes, I prefer open subversion to insidious subversion. That's why I think wokeness open anti white ism is better for us than going back to Fresh Prince. At least enemies are showing themselves.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Exactly right. That is completely true. Better someone just say I'm gonna punch you in the face and then try to punch you in the face than someone who's like I'm your friend and stab you in the back. And it's is the James Lindsay's and the Chris Rufos and who else was losing their mind about the people who are openly, you know, pro God and against this whole Satan of subversion. Like they were James Lindsay was losing, you know, clutching his skirts about that. I can't remember who else was doing

[Pete Quinones]

it, but I mean there was Jenna Ellis, that was the, the lawyer.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, isn't she, isn't she Bush's daughter?

[Pete Quinones]

No, no, this is, this is someone different. She, she was Trump's lawyer.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, let me. Well, Jenna Bush Tunes.

[Pete Quinones]

Tunes answered the question. He said that, he said what he's talking about are when he says the our guy way forward. A shed, weight room, communal utilities. Everyone works for a local business.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh yeah, okay. Yep, that's right. You know, I'm glad you glad that that's proved useful and right. Because planes are going to start falling out of the sky.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like nothing works anymore. You know, your local hamburger joint instead of being ready in five minutes, it takes 15 and then you go inside and you look at, you know, and it's, it's a, you know, a 4 foot 11 tall and 3 foot 11 wide mestiza from Guatemala and a couple of negroes from Africa and a couple other people of various, you know, backgrounds. Who knows what a couple, couple major, couple Asians maybe running this hamburger place. It's like oh, 15 years ago it was a bunch of like one 30 year old white dude who was the manager and a bunch of white high school kids. This place hummed like a well tuned guitar.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Why is you know, something as simple as your hamburger stand isn't. Doesn't function anymore. It's not going to get better folks. You know, I mean I'd be happy to be wrong, but if someone can show me a place where things are going to get better, you know.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, it's just not

[Pete Quinones]

so. A Anonson says Merry Christmas and Happy Yule. Jim Bowden. Hey Jim. Merry Christmas. Says Merry Christmas from Sydney, Australia. Em and I Want em and I1 says, you mean coming to America was fiction?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

America on track to be Brazil 2035-2440 and South Africa by 2060. That could go a lot quicker.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, in the Brazil, like I wish I was able to do memes because like the, the Brazil we thought we were going to get, you know, these gorgeous beaches with all these, you know, women with firm posteriors and brief bikinis. Right. And you know, the Brazil you're actually going to get is all these like shanty towns made of corrugated, corrugated cardboard and like tin roofs with sewage running down the street. Like, you know, the Brazilian vindication of America. Like, oh, a multicultural rainbow of hot women in like barely their bikinis. Sounds awesome. Actually. No, Right. You're gonna get the favelas.

[Pete Quinones]

Actually, it would be the opposite. Of what? Of that. It would be the dialectical hypothesis of that. Right. But yeah, I mean it's, it's going to take something new and it's going to take going, it's going to take going through, going forward. I mean, there's no, I don't think there's any way to hold on to like this, the idea of this government. I mean, the only reason to even think about taking getting power in this government is as defensive and offensive. I mean that's the, that'd be the only thing that you, the only reason you'd want to do it because you don't want this anymore. This has to go. And this can't be fixed. It's, it's designed in a way that it can't be fixed. The cancer is. The cancer can't be reversed.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. Well, I mean, you, you remember I, I still love Tom Woods. I owe Tom Woods a great deal. I don't think I'd be here today without him and a few others. But any idea that libertarians had of like making the argument and then convincing people should have been shot in the head and drug out back after 2020.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, like, I'm sorry, most people are sheep. They're going to take the vax. They let themselves get locked down, they let the election get stolen. These are not people capable of being free.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, right. And you still see libertarians out there who are advocating for self governance. They're advocating for that. No, people need to be told what to do. People. I mean, I mean, if it gets bad enough, you're basically going to have to impose your will on people because if you don't, they're going to take you down. And that's why leadership and that's why, you know, it's. It's more about leadership and finding the right people now than it is about, you know, changing people. Changing. Oh, if we can just get 10% of the population to change their mind on something, that's just not it anymore. That's not it. That's not it. Never was. Am I wrong?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Nope.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Yeah. It's just. It just doesn't seem that it. Well, it's if. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, okay, so Prager gets millions of dollars to write books. He gets a nationally syndicated radio talk show where he makes millions of dollars. You know, people advertise with him all the time. You're just as good as he is. I'm. I'm better than Sean Hannity. I wouldn't say that I'm as good as Rush Limbaugh, but, you know, you and I are both pretty good at this whole, like, Yakin Indo microphone thing. If people were really capable of deciding for themselves that the marketplace idea is really a thing, why am I not making 70 grand a year to talk, no microphone? Yeah, right.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, and some. I mean, when you look at the, like, the. The contracts that these Daily Wire people get, I mean, Steven Crowder was, like, bitching and going crazy over, what, 50 million over five years or something like that.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, yeah. Set for life money.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Now, now. Now, it turns out, like, there's. He's gay, too, but, like. Yeah, well, yeah, right. But, like, you know, and. And what? Why will you know Matt Walshway otherwise? Like. Right. He's a conservative Catholic dad. We have a lot in common in terms of, like, our daily lives. But he knows where his bread is getting better, and so he won't tell the truth about certain things. He'll edge up to certain things. And the reason this happens and the reason the dissident right became a thing is once you admit. And it doesn't take much. This is why Prager Gatekeep so hard. Once you admit that they're, like, massive biological inborn differences between men and women that are not solvable, quote, unquote, and inherent. And those inherent differences lead to very different outcomes in terms of things like education, jobs, politics, you know, whatever. Across the board, all fields of human endeavor, men and women are vastly different. The second you admit that, you have no argument against race, IQ, or Jews. Wait a second. What about these people that are, you know, massively inbred, have their own religion. They're very tribal. They're all, like, first cousins or third cousins, you know, how can you prove Kevin McDonald's wrong. If you admit that boys and girls are different, all it takes is boys and girls are different. And someone who has both sons and daughters, I can tell you, like, massively different. Massively different. That once you admit that boys and girls are different, how do you stop people from going, well, blacks and whites are different. Blacks and Asians are different. Whites and Asians are different because all the science is out there. And that's why they gatekeep so hard

[Pete Quinones]

of,

[Dark Enlightenment]

oh, we'll talk about this, right? Dennis will say, women and men and women are vastly different. We need to find a way to live together. Dennis will never say, you know, actually the 19th amendment was a horrible idea and anyone who supports it is a subversive communist and they should be, you know, like, yeah, of course they should. Like, look around. Letting women vote was a disaster.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, right. I've been, I've been talking lately about how on Oren McIntyre Show, Chris Rufo was like, we need to get CRT out of schools. We need to get all this, we need to go back to, you know, to a real education in schools. And Oren brought up, yeah, well, we also have to get rid of the Civil Rights Act. And Chris Rufo lost his money. Yeah, well, he did what you see many Zionists doing right now. Chris Rufo pointed to a bunch of people on the left who didn't, who were against the Civil Rights act and implied that if you were against the Civil Rights act, you were on the left.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right?

[Pete Quinones]

And you see Zionists doing that on Twitter all day now is, oh, if you, if, if you're anti Zionist or if you have anything that if, if you bring up the jq, then yeah, you're, you're a leftist. You're with the woke crowd. And then when you point out, well, who invents, where did this WOKE ideology come from? Well, no, it couldn't have come from, it couldn't have come from the tribe because they hate the people who are woke. Hate the tribe. And they get to play this game. And you just wish that you, they, you were face to face. You can smack them in the mouth.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, yeah, and that's. Well, notice that, you know, Dennis Prager's pretty tall actually. He's probably 6, 3, 6, 4. Yeah, but like Ben Shapiro, right, dude's 5 foot 7 in lifts and maybe 125 pounds soaking wet. Of course he's against violence as a way of deciding things. He's bad at violence. Right. Like, you know, I'm not good at basketball. I wouldn't be the Guy being like, you know how we need to decide everything? A basketball game. Like, of course. Right.

[Pete Quinones]

Like Dr. Prepper here says, says, yeah. Anyone, you know, they do that all the time. Anyone to the right of me is actually a leftist because. And then they'll invoke horseshoe theory,

[Dark Enlightenment]

right?

[Pete Quinones]

It's like, oh, well, you've gotten so far, right? You're on the left now, and I'm

[Dark Enlightenment]

sure you've gotten that first.

[Pete Quinones]

How about your mother?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, how about that? How about you shut your mouth? How about you shut your lion mouth or people will shut it for you? How's that? You know, and. And it's the unprincipled exception of, of people like Prager or Shapiro or any of these people. Or they will make you like, well, I don't know. Like, what about Satanism? Like, what about it? I don't think we should have it in public. Well, are you gonna ban Judaism? Well, are you guys Satanists? Because, like, I mean, seems to me that there's a pretty good case that you and the Satanists have more in common than you and the Christians. Yeah,

[Pete Quinones]

yeah. It's just, it's. It should be. It should be very obvious. But the problem is, is that the one thing that the regime was really good at doing was convincing people that this Constitution and this, this Bill of Rights is what, you know, is what saves them, is what makes them free. So anyone who comes along and defends that, they can. But here's the. And defends that, then they're. They're on their side. The problem is, is that, you know, as Edward Bernays talked about, you can take the First Amendment and the First Amendment is the greatest propaganda tool ever known to mankind because not only does it give you freedom of speech, it also gives freedom of the press. And the press can do whatever they want. The press can just go become the greatest social engineers in the world, and they have all this freedom. And if you talk about, well, maybe we need to get rid of freedom of the press. Oh, you're against the con. You know, maybe we need to get these people in. We need to check these people. Oh, you're just like Stalin, who would, you know, would persecute anyone who. Any.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know what Stalin did, He won. And then he died in his bed.

[Pete Quinones]

Just like Franco. Just like Franco did.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. And, you know, freedom of the press. Like, okay, freedom press to do what, again, like, liberty to do what? Every war in the 20th century, actually, past that, the Spanish American war, World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq 1 every single one of them, if you look into them, there's a pretty good case to be made that every single one of them had some sort of false flag attached to it. Like, like the Spanish Empire was on its last legs. Spain was broke from a completely turbulent 19th century that it had seen what, like three revolutions in Spain in the 19th century.

[Pete Quinones]

You had three car list revolutions within 20 years, right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

So they were going to go pick on the United States of America, a country 20 times its size, with money and like, who just finished conquering the frontier. They were going to blow up a battleship, right? Sure. Right. And then what did her say, you know, can you give me the, you know, show me the. Like, I'll give you the war if you show me the right story or whatever. Then of course, the Lusitania, right? The Germans are like, don't sail on this ship. It's got a bunch of guns on it. Then, you know, the press goes, look at what they did to our poor passengers. We need to go kill a bunch of Germans and 170,000Americans go die in this useless war in Europe that shot the civilization in the head. Never mind, you know, like World War II. Right? All the stuff you've done with Thomas about that, you know, literally, literally like an audiobook worth of just, you know, a dozen hours or two dozen hours of Thomas going, breaking through all the different BS that's behind that, you know, the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I forget what the thing in Korea was, but like, just look at what's happened. And again, if Dennis Prager or Mark Levin or any of these other people were. I mean, Wicker v. Filburn is ridiculous. Like, oh, you can't grow wheat to, you know, like, yeah, congratulations, Mark. Living. I agree with you. Filburn is ridiculous. Now go after Shelley v. Kramer and Brown v. Board. Yeah, right, because Wicker v. Filburn is ridiculous. But in terms of like, what makes my daily life more difficult. Brown v. Board, hands down, hands down, Brown v. Board is the worst. You know, like, or Shelly V. Cranberg, whatever, right? So. Oh, well, that's, that's a, that's a leftist racist institute. You know, like, like Earl Warren made like all these other decisions were really bad, but this one or two times, Earl Warren made good decisions. So we should totally be conservative behind that. And, and you know, or McIntyre, to his great credit, is, is going against this stuff. But you know, Chris Caldwell is completely right. You know, the shadow constitution of the Civil Rights act is what has these people in their sights and they Believe it. And that's, that's where we need to say no. Actually, the Civil Rights act is nonsense because it doesn't put any bound. It puts all these constraints on the white Christian majority, on the decent people, and it has no bounds on the other side. There's no, like, oh, well, you know, if you're a, like Fentanyl abusing felon porn actor who's passing off fake 20s, maybe you just get what you deserve. Maybe it's, maybe that's unfortunate. We'll send a card to your family. But like, like that happens when you do those things. Like bad things happen to you when you do that and you die of drug overdoses and, and it's unfortunate for you, but the world's a better place without you in it.

[Pete Quinones]

But I mean, it was just some guy who decided that he was going to do drugs. It was him alone. Consent, you know, it didn't harm anyone else. It had no repercussions on anything that's happened since then at all. It was just some guy who decided he was going to take fentanyl. And then, and then the press, you

[Dark Enlightenment]

know, like, I'm sure you've seen the compilations, right? You know, like, yeah, all the press talking exact Same lines at 37 different local news stations. Right. Like, so all of them said the exact same thing.

[Pete Quinones]

But that wouldn't have happened if there was no government. Don't you understand? The only reason that happened is because we have a government. We just got to end the state. Bro, Bro.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, like, I'm sorry, but those people are so childish and so ridiculous. At this point in time I can just like, oh, so, so you want government by Larry Fink? Like the state's the only thing we have standing between us and Larry Fink.

[Pete Quinones]

And from what I understand, that's what Javier Malay is doing and doing in, in Argentina is he's privatizing everything and basically selling it to his friends. And guess who his friends are. Oh, God, stop noticing. Goy.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. Well, you know, Argentina used to be a first world country. Argentina used to be wealthy.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

100 years ago. 100 years ago, Argentina was, was the second wealthiest country on the continent. No, third.

[Pete Quinones]

Absolutely, absolutely. In 1920, Argentina was doing great. Say is it 60, 60 to 80% German country at that point and just, I mean, doing well, it was just going to be a, a European country in South America. What happened?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, it was, it was basically Italian and German. Yeah. And, and I forget exactly. It's been a number of years since I looked it up, but like there's that Southern cone of chile was like 70 Basque or something. Argentina was mostly Italian. Southern Brazil was German. Uruguay was still, is still basically a functioning country which is very small. But there was those four, you know, four functioning South American countries and they managed to mostly stay out of the First World War and they were more prosperous than any country in the Americas except for Canada and the United States, I think. And it was not. Cuba was up there too, but Cuba was basically Castilian, right?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Up until the revolution, Cuba was effectively.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it was much like Chile. It was much like Chile was. Yeah. And pretty much still is. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. And so if Dennis Prager knows these things, and I'm not saying Dennis Prager needs to, you know, do what I've done and scream, you know, naughty words all over the Internet. But like, if he was genuinely interested in conserving a society, he'd conserve the raw material of that society. He would do things like tell women like, you know, actually the best thing you can do is, is get married and have kids. Like this whole, like, oh, well, you can have a career and like, no, you can't. No you can't. Like you, you can't raise small children and have a career. Sorry, have you ever dealt with small children? You can't do it. Like being a mom is a full time job until your kids are, you know, kindergarten aged at least. You know, if you want to go back to work after all your kids are in school, you know, maybe, but like this whole idea of, of just, you know, Ben Shapiro knows everything I know about who breaks the law and who doesn't. Why doesn't Ben Spiritual say, yeah, actually it's because they're. Because their high time preference and inability to see future consequences and low IQ and inability to compete in the marketplace because they're too dumb to actually hold down a job and, you know, whatever that makes them this way. And no decent people should have to live around them because they're, you know, violent and they're violent and dumb. Right. You know, there was a kid who just got shot in the head in Oklahoma while he was out looking at Christmas lights with his mom. And I don't know if he's passed away or not. Last I saw he was in critical condition. And it was the usual suspects, right? You know, 30 year old guy had been convicted multiple crimes and shot this poor kid in the head. And of course he was like, why are we even pretending that there needs to be much of a trial other than like, oh, this guy did it?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like it it, you know, why can't we, like. Oh, well, we don't normally do like, you get a weak reprieve because it's Christmas time, but come next Saturday at noon in the town square, right. People who shoot kids in the head, we do one thing to them in this county, you know.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

They go dancing on air and that's it. There's nothing to discuss. Why are we even talking about this? Right. How many, how many billions of dollars are we spending in America's prisons on people that should have just been flogged or hung?

[Pete Quinones]

Bob Tona. Bob Tono sent a 25 super chat and said, I think the closer we get to boomers dying off, the less influence these conservatives will have as the myths of the civil rights movement and the holabanga are taken to the grave anyway.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's true.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Yeah. And we were already seeing it. You can see that like 20% of like 21% of Zoomers or something like that support Israel and like 85 to 90% of boomers support them. So he says, merry Christmas to you and yours. Thank you. Bob Tunes just came in and said long term, ancestral timeline. Bug in or bug out? If you're going to bug out. Where?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Man, there's a lot there. Could do a whole four hour stream just on that.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Goodness. I'm a big believer in. Mountains are good for white people. So anywhere from northern Alabama to Maine, along the Appalachian chain, there would be decent. Anywhere in the, in the Rockies. Problem is those places are relatively poor. So if you can find your, if you can find yourself a laptop job, you know, by all means do it. You know, go someplace that's relatively white, relatively rural. We can get a little bit, get a little bit of land, grow some potatoes, get to know your neighbors.

[Pete Quinones]

Yep.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Stay. Stay out of the big cities. Stay out of the big cities. They are not going to function now. We're going to, they're going to have, just for reasons of geography and transportation, those places are going to get taken back at some point. But right now they're not, they're not viable. They're just not viable. It's. It's not possible to live in Chicago for a decent person.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I think we're going to end it right there. I want to thank everybody for showing up to this and everyone who super chatted. That's freaking awesome. I really appreciate it. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody. Yeah, Love all of you. I'll try to put something out next, next week maybe on the 30th on Saturday instead of Sunday, because I know on Sunday people are going to be, people are going to be getting ready for their New Year's celebration and don't feel like that's just cheesy to do. Get together with people you love and spend time with them. Take whatever chances you can to do that. And you know, family is important. People who share values with you just as much. So, so you got.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I. Well, first of all, Merry Christmas and thank you so much for having me. Pete. It's always a pleasure. And I'm kind of astonished that you put up with me. Your friendship, your friendship means a great deal. Merry Christmas. But I would, if I could just part with one thing. I've kind of rambled today and I, I'm guilty of that. But I would say this. To people, your sources of information are vitally important. How many people did Pete save? How many people did other people on our side of the fence save from not taking the vax and not getting heart attacks or cancer or strokes or what have you? Because they were able to tell people the truth. And as the information environment degrades further and you've got people who genuinely, you know, like on national television will be like, we was the Cherokee and we will, you know, like, they're not going to stop this. They're not going to, they're not gonna be able to stop this. And those gatekeepers that people talked about, as the boomers die off, they're, they're, they're going to start to fall apart. So good, solid, reliable sources of information who are honest with you and admit when they were wrong, as Pete has done, are going to be more and more valuable as time goes on. And so, you know, support the people that support you, whatever that may be. You know, if you got three favorite YouTube shows, if you love or McIntyre and Pete and academic agent, like kick everybody a few bucks because as time goes on, stuff like this, it's fun now. It could be really, really important in a year or two. So that's all I would say is, is the, the difference between me and like a friend of mine who just stayed with Normie conservative media is, you know, I clicked on the wrong link one day and found like VDARE or something 20, 20 odd years ago. And now Pete and I are talking and, and you could be that vdare link for somebody. So, you know, support the people that support you and it'll make a big difference. You never know. I mean, I've yapped on the Internet for a long time and over Many hours. And I've heard my talking points in the mouths of, like, mainstream people, and it's been very, very strange to hear that.

[Pete Quinones]

It's always weird to. It's always weird when you. When you find out that, oh, there might be some people out there who are actually on tv, and it's like, wait a minute, is that they hear that on my show?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Yeah, that is weird. And, and, you know, that's. That's all I gotta say is, is just support the good source of information. Support people that support you. And, you know, thank you all very much for your kind listening and Merry Christmas and, you know, thank you so much, Pete, for having me.

[Pete Quinones]

Thank you. Merry Christmas and Merry Christmas, everyone. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pican Yano show and de's ready to go. So go ahead, Go ahead.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So, Pete, I don't know if you saw, but we have now, like, redacted messages from, I believe, Francis Collins and other people basically admitting that, like, those of us who are like, hey, this is a bio weapon. You guys are doing something weird. This was a lab. You're lying. This is proof now, like, completely vindicated. And now these people want to be like, well, it was a pandemic and we. We didn't know what we were doing. Please don't throw us in jail.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, that was to be expected, right? I mean, it was. Here's what we knew. We knew back then that one day this would come out. Maybe it would be 70 years, you know, on. They'd release it, maybe to be a couple years. We also knew that no one was going to do anything because our people aren't in charge. And, you know, they. They just get to walk. They get to say we, we screwed up and we were doing the best we can and, you know, don't, you know, but there's nothing you could do about it, basically.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, right. Exactly. Well, exactly. And that's the thing that, That I bring that up because in Enid, Oklahoma, which is a small town outside of Oklahoma City, there was a guy who'd been to Charlottesville, who had been elected to the city council, and he just got recalled after a massive effort by the left. Hit piece by NBC News and a whole bunch of other stuff, the only place he got any, like, sympathetic coverage was like, VD air, which. That's a whole other thing that makes me super, super mad. But. Right. This whole notion, you know, before we were recording, I was telling you that how your emphasis on elite theory is basically the only thing keeping me from like, crippling depression right now because. Right. They're just in power, and so they get to do what they want. And this whole notion of, like, the democratic will of the people and knowledge of, like. No, no, no, no. The vast majority of people. And this is where something where the left is actually correct.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The left believe, you know, the average leftist treats politics like their religion. They take it seriously. They will tell other people what to do. And conservatives want to sit here and be like, what? Well, I shouldn't tell other people what. No, no, no, no, no. Most people are slaves. They do not want to be free. Being free is work. I mean, think about all the reading you've done just on this show, that if you hadn't done that reading, you wouldn't understand the world at all. I was thinking about it as I was preparing for the show today. Like, if I was to give someone, like, a. A six pack of, like, books that you had to read to understand just how the world works, basically. Right. I was thinking about it, and it's all books that you've talked about. I was thinking, Uncle Ted, Nima's book, the Bell Curve,

[Pete Quinones]

Race Warren High School.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Race Warren High School might be one on the, on the list. But, like, that's thousands of pages of dense political reading that most people don't want to do. John Calhoun disquisition on government. Like, like conservatives are delusional. And it is precisely because they're so delusional that we're censored. Because the second that they. Because you and I both used to be conservatives and libertarians, the second you, like, actually tell them the truth, they go, oh, yeah, I guess it is that way.

[Pete Quinones]

And then the next day they, you know, they, they listen to you, they accept it. And then you see them the next day and they've completely forgotten about what you saw, what you were talking about.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, they. They really get off on being the victim. They get off on being the loser. And then they try to take this moral stand by doing it. It's like, well, you can't. I just want to be left alone. Don't you just want to be left alone? Well, actually, no. Actually, no. No. They don't want to just be left alone, and they don't want. Well, they want to be left alone, but they don't want to leave you alone. You want to be left alone and you want to leave other people alone, but they want to be left alone, but they don't want to leave other people alone. Okay.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Their entire existence is Dependent on. Like this is Calhoun. Right. Like in any society there's going to be the people that pay taxes and the people that receive taxes. And if they're the people that receive taxes, whether that's government workers or central bankers or underclass people or the teachers union or whatever, they're the, they're the people that are getting taxed. Getting the tax money. No, no public employee ever pays taxes. Yeah, they're just taking money from the. When they pay taxes, it's taking money from your wallet in your left hand pocket and putting in your right hand pocket.

[Pete Quinones]

That's all. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So this.

[Pete Quinones]

Good.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So this is what if you can't understand this and I mean, for the folks listening, congratulations. You know, I've, I've profited immensely from, from Pete's work and, and his friendship and it's a real honor. But you know, for those of you who are just listening, don't think that like, oh, I'm just listening now. This is really, really important. The messages, the reading that Pete's doing here is basically a graduate course on how to unscrew up your mind from the regime indoctrination for conservatives. And it might be the most important project in our entire sphere right now by doing things like reading Calhoun and Camp the Saints and all this other stuff that Pete's talking about. You know, every single one of the series with Thomas, I've said this privately to Pete, but I'll say it publicly is like a college class. It's, it's like a graduate, you know, upper level graduate college class of series of lectures with Thomas going over how World War I was nonsense or World War II. And you have to understand how all this stuff is nonsense before you can even begin to fight back. Because the second.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

What did they say about Mr. Blevins on this NBC hit piece? The only people who would give Mr. Blevins a fair hearing is V there. And video is like going away at the end of the month. Tragically, The second, like, oh, if, if this guy who's from Oklahoma and believes in the people of Oklahoma and the state of Oklahoma, if we let him have his thing, that's basically Hitler. That's, that was the, that was, that was the hit piece on NBC, you know, NBC News, right? So it's the regime, the Nuremberg regime justifying itself in this insane way that you have to believe nonsense. Otherwise. Mustache man.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, here's what I will say. And this is what people have asked, oh, Thomas, why do you have Thomas on all the time? The Nolte Episodes. So we have two Ernst Nolte episodes released and we recorded the third one last night and it's available to subscribers right now. It'll be, it'll be published by the time this comes out. People really need to listen to those episodes because what Nulty is describing is he's, he's describing a people who existed and still exist. But when he, specifically when he's Talking about the 1920s and 1930s, he's talking about a people who, they're. Their ideology was spreading all over the world. It had taken over Russia, it had taken over Spain. And it was an ideology of not only killing the physical body, but killing

[Dark Enlightenment]

who you are and the soul. It killed the human soul. I mean everything about it.

[Pete Quinones]

They, if you want to know a good picture of what they were and then the communists would be like, no, that was the anarchists. No, same thing, same thing, sorry. Look at the disinterring of the nuns in Spain. Look at them executing 6,000 priests, nuns and seminarians in a six month span. Twice the amount of people who were killed in the Inquisition over the span of 300, 300 years. In the span of six months they killed 6,000 priests, nuns and seminarians, burned down 8,000 churches.

[Dark Enlightenment]

They tried to kill Spain, they tried to destroy Spain. They did more damage to Spain than 700 years of Moorish occupation.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean at least the Moors allowed them to still be Catholics or be Spanish. Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

So I mean people forget about this. But the Bavarian Socialist Republic was a thing. In 1919, the, the German navy almost mutinied completely over, you know, communist stuff. They weren't just, you know, I've been introduced to lots of thinkers thanks to Thomas and, and I'm, I pride myself, you know, think of myself as reasonably well informed and well read and compared to your average roomy. I suppose I am, but I'm always learning stuff, always learning stuff when, when you guys talk and you know, I have this, you know, oh, I gotta read, pick up this book and my, my thank you to Thomas stack of books is probably as tall as I am, you know, but it, it's because these people, you know, and what did they do to China? They destroyed China. You know, a 5,000 year old civilization that was dependent on the family and this in right order. The Confucian idea of right order within the family and within the society of. These are the duties parents have to children. These are the duties siblings have to each other. These are the duties you have to aunts and uncles or cousins. Well, in the one China One child policy. China. There are no aunts and uncles, there are no cousins. There is no, you know, traditional Chinese society. It's been destroyed by the Communists. Russia. The reason they hate Vladimir Putin so much is that Vladimir Putin, for all of his faults or whatever, is turning Russia around. And Russia is recognizably Russian again, or at least, you know, trying. And the idea that we can like compromise or come to some sort of modus vivendi with people who think that it's normal to like, burn churches and like rape nuns. I mean, I feel dirty even using the phrase, you know, rape nuns. It's viscerally. It gives me the creepy crawlies, man. I hate it. It's so gross. It's so evil. It's so disgusting. And the Republican Party and the establishment will compromise with the communists over the nationalists because they have like a please eat me last type attitude. And they'll always lose. They will always lose. And that's why the elite theory stuff is so important, because all we need is like five guys who are in power in some, some fashion. Doesn't need to be. Elon Musk. Doesn't need to be. Erik Prince. Doesn't need to be. It could just be, you know, like Greg Abbott realizing that, like, because he was, you know, a big, big eggs guy and in Texas for years, he didn't do anything about it, but he finally realized, oh, wait a minute, like Texas will be uninhabitable in 20 years if I don't do something right now. Well, yeah, congratulations. Good job, buddy. Peter Brimley has been screaming about this for 25 years. Good job. But, you know, I'm sure Greg Abbott would rather be, you know, the governor of Texas as an independent Texas, you know, the president of Texas, then like the de facto sovereign of like three blocks around Austin because the rest of Texas has fallen to anarcho tyranny. Those are his choices.

[Pete Quinones]

So, and people are screaming for a, for someone to change all this. And they're like, and you mentioned somebody like a Greg Abbott, who I think you're saying, just using them as an example. But you mention anyone and it's going to be somebody who's already in the system. It's always, it's going to be a known entity. Caesar was a known entity. Binoche was a known entity. Franco was a known entity. If you're going to scream because, oh, that's an insider. It's always an insider.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Napoleon was an insider. Like, these were all like, you think that these guys were just generals and then like, like, all, like, they were like, hey, man, I'm really good at this military stuff. You should make me a general and let me take over your society. That never happened, right? Like, these guys had been through the whole system. They'd been through, you know, Caesar's case. He's been through the curse, dishonor room, and done really well. You know, Napoleon was part of the revolution, but he was the best military commander. So that's how the cookie crumbles.

[Pete Quinones]

You know, people don't want to accept the fact that these people are serious and they're serious about destroying who you are. I mean, that's what this whole trans thing is. The trans thing is just a picture into what they want. They want to be able to say X. X is actually y. 2 and 2 does not equal 4 for. And we're going to create this. This issue. We're going to create this problem. We're going to politicize it. We're going to make it so that if you don't bow down to it, you're a bad person, you're a fascist. And they're basically, what they're doing is they're create. It's a picture of creating a Soviet man or a Soviet woman or a Soviet woman that is a man who thinks it's a. Whatever you want to call it, they're creating.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's not even like they want to destroy who you are. They want to destroy all human beings everywhere.

[Pete Quinones]

Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

They. Their explicit goal. They're very, very clear about this. They want everyone to be 10% Asian, 5% West African, 13% South American, Indio, 5% Sami Laplander, a little bit of Russian, maybe some French, you know, they what? They don't want there to be any culture in the world. They'll talk about, you know, oh, respect for indigenous, you know, whatever. Like they're doing it in Australia right now, right, that the voice vote didn't pass. Voice to Parliament didn't pass, thanks in large part to efforts of men like Blair Cattrall and Joel Davis and Thomas Sewell, nationalists who saved their nation. But the big cities are doing it anyway. Well, okay, if the Aboriginals are so important, then why. Why won't you let the Aboriginals just live like Aboriginals? Why do you have to, like, give them housing? Why do you have to send them to school? Why do you have to. You know, you're destroying the Aboriginal way of life. Not that I think much of Australian Aborigines, but like, if they're just so special and wonderful and they need to have a voice and everything. And they need to be in charge of the government and they need to do this and they need to be that. Then like let them run around in the bush and eat kangaroos. Why even bother sending them to school? Like, if average being an Aborigine is so great,

[Pete Quinones]

right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

If, if all non white cultures are inherently superior and inherently better, like go let them be that. Why? Why? Like, oh no, you can't have television, you can't have computers, no Internet for you. You're Aborigine and your culture is too important to be polluted by the Internet and television and cars and whatever else. No, they want to destroy everything. They're just using all these other things as convenient a weapon of convenience to destroy all human societies.

[Pete Quinones]

Thomas talked about in the unreleased episode, the one that'll be out on Monday, the Pateki prison experiments in Romania. And basically what these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean if you. I have the book, the anti humans, I have a psalmist copy because it's impossible to find. And if you understand what they were trying to do in Romania, they were trying to re engineer humanity and they were trying to turn humanity into there. It's very. You can turn somebody into a slave. I mean you can, you can force someone to work your fields. You can't make them, you can't take them back to zero. And the whole goal was to take them back to zero. To destroy and strip everything from them, everything from their minds. To make them feel like the only thing that they could possibly do was embrace the state, embrace this. I don't even want to call it an ideology.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, it's pure Satanism. Like, like, yeah, that's all it is, it's. It's pure evil. And as interesting as the naughty episodes have been one of the things. And this is why we're so censored and so everything been better than us men braver than us men, smarter than us. All across the world, in France, in Spain, in Italy, in Germany, in, you know, in England, you know, fought this. They saw the stakes in Belgium, you know, read what Leon Derel had to say about like, I put it up on my telegram, but I was, I was rereading Burning Souls over Easter and listening to your track and it made me cry, man. Like there's a man who understood what the stakes were and he loved God and he loved life and he loved creation so much that he was willing to go like fight and die in this horrible hellscape of the Eastern Front for it. And he was an exemplar of, of that reaction to just how evil communism was or is rather. But all over the world there are people who saw it and fought against it. And that's. And basically, you know, we're censored because we're anti communist, because the Nuremberg regime exists to like, disempower people who notice just how awful communism is. That's the point.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, it's also to just take away everything that we have and it has, it's taken. There are very few people that you can point to who are operating in societies that have been. I don't even know if you can call them societies anymore that have been taken over by this, where people have a sense of, of their history

[Dark Enlightenment]

when

[Pete Quinones]

it comes to being. Ontological ideas and philosophical ideas as such. The first thing that people should go to is where they came from and who they came from. And that's been all but stripped in most places. And it's something that most people don't even give, give a second thought to. You know, we're, we live in this gigantic strip mall. And it's how you operate within the strip mall culture is how you're judged. It's not judged by who you came from, where you came from. That's why I'm so glad to be surrounded by so many people who, in my personal life now, whose families have been living in the same place and operating the same business and doing the same things for over 200 years because they know who they are and they would never leave. There's no thought of them going somewhere else and they're rightfully suspicious of outsiders, and that's just not allowed anymore. That's racism. That's fascism. That's backwards. These are just backwards people.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, the correct response to that is yes. And yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, if being someone who's forward thinking is being the kind of person that the people I grew up around in New York City. City who are completely deracinated from anything and I mean, they're living in a city. How do you, how do you build a legacy in a city? How do you build a legacy in an apartment where you're renting? It's.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, it's tough. And, and I'm, you know, I, I could go on about at that length, but the, the, the important thing that people need to understand, if you're listening to this right, the regime hates you. And I, I can't remember if it was Matt from Kimberly was Matt Erickson. You know, like, you don't live in a society anymore. You don't live in a culture anymore. Was it Matt from two or Matt from King Pill? Okay, Matt from kingpild. Yeah. You don't live in a society anymore. So you don't, you know, if you're one of those people, right, who all of your ancestors were gray and you live in rural northeast Mississippi and your family has lived in that same area for 300 years or 175 years, right. The system's trying to destroy you. You don't live in a society anymore. That's bad. It's awful. There's all kinds of negative consequences to that. But conversely, you don't owe it. You don't owe the regime anything. You don't owe it the time of day. And so instead of being worried about what the regime thinks or what the national news thinks or whatever, you just go on being that person from rural Mississippi whose ancestors all wore gray. And you keep your Confederate dollars because they're going to be worth something again someday if enough people believe it's so right. And it might just be in your little corner of northeast Mississippi where Confederate dollars are once again legal tender. But they might, you know, but the dollar is not going to be checking, you know, like, so stop caring what the regime thinks. Live in it. Do you remember the late Larry Oster, Pete? Does that name ring a bell?

[Pete Quinones]

Not off the top of my head, no.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Larry died about 10 years ago. He was a Jewish convert to Catholicism, Christianity, and then Catholicism. On his deathbed, wrote a blog called View from the Right and was pretty influential on me. I found it via. Via John Derbyshire and National Review, of all places, actually, back in the early 2000s, when National Review was still worth something. But after Obama was elected a second time, he made a great point. And I've tried to live by this and failed sometimes. But it's worth saying that I no longer consider the regime legitimate. I'll pay the taxes and obey the laws just because I don't want to avoid jail. But this is no longer a government that I can respect, that I care about, whose good opinion matters to me, whose officers I will, you know, defer to in any meaningful way. Like, no, none of these people deserve any respect. None of these people deserve. And until Greg Abbott does something to actually help Texans, he should be relentlessly mocked. He should, like, fear going outside because stand up for Texas, you bleepity bleep, bleep. You know, he should be more afraid of being turfed out and made fun of by the average Texan than whatever the regime thinks, because the regime is. It doesn't matter. It doesn't. It doesn't. Well, not, not to say it doesn't matter in this. In sense of like they can't throw you in jail, but like in terms of legitimacy, they're not, they're not legitimate. They're not a government that anyone should respect.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, they create the situations. They, they go out of their way to create the situations that would have. You have to become reliant upon them. Which is why people who aren't reliant upon them are demonized. Are. They seek to, you know, a farmer who can grow his own food. They seek to come up with every possible regulation to make their life miserable. If they own their own land, they continue to tax them. If they dare to sell raw milk, they will show up with a SWAT team. I've, I'm not exaggerating. I've seen video footage of SWAT team. Of SWAT teams. Yeah. Farmaged in is. It's. I think it was made by lefties. But that doesn't matter. It's still one of those documentaries that you want to see because you, you'll see exactly what, what they'll do to people who can provide for their. Can provide for themselves, can survive on their own and not have to rely upon the government. That's why they love cities so much. They love cities so much because they get people to move there. It's impossible. Eventually somebody's going to get on. You're either going to have a bunch of rich people who move there that they can that become tax cattle, or you have a bunch of poor people who move there who become tax feeders. It's perfect. It's the perfect kind of synchronicity for them. And, but weirdly, the rich people who will live in cities will continue to vote for these people and the poor people who live in cities will continue to vote for these people. But as soon as you get outside of those cities and you're like, oh, I can actually provide for myself. Huh? Well, like those, yeah, those are the people that they need to destroy.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Well, or just like the, the whole like the Constitution. Look at what Michaela Scott or Mackenzie Scott or whatever. Jeff Bezos, his ex wife. Look at the damage she's done with her billions and tell me bills of attainder are a bad thing. Like, no, we're just taking that. Like you're, you can live in Malibu and have your private jet, but this whole like $100 million to things that destroy the country. No, we're just taking your money. Right.

[Pete Quinones]

Like yeah, they don't, people don't get, people will defend that because cap. Because quote unquote capitalism. And, and it's, it's amazing how the same people who will tell you, well that isn't real capitalism, you know, that's cronyism. As soon as you start attacking crony cronyism, they start saying, why are you attacking capitalism?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Because they're the same thing, dumbass.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, because like I said, like I said last time,

[Dark Enlightenment]

like I said last time, right. Nobody. Got rich without government intervention. Jeff, Jeff Bezos depended on the post office to be rich. If the post office didn't, didn't carry his stuff for cheap or free,

[Pete Quinones]

You

[Dark Enlightenment]

know, he, he would, he wouldn't have been able to. You know, so he's socialist Rhodes and you know Walmart. Right. They use socialist socialist roads and, and EBT for their employees to cover their lo. Like there's nobody who. In the system and it's impossible otherwise. To give you just a quick example, do you know what a C130 is, Pete?

[Pete Quinones]

Yep.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. I think it's a really cool airplane. Not a jet, you know, four engine, turbo prop, can land on rough fields. Really great, you know, kind of rough field, short field aircraft. One of those, a new one is a hundred million dollars. Near enough like 80 or 90 depending on, you know, like whatever, you know, Like a fortune that would last like multiple lifetimes.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, and who, who gets that money? I mean, and does it really cost $100 million or is 75 of that being diverted somewhere else? And 100% though the money that, that money is, which is technically tax money, is just created out of thin air. It's inflation at this point is going to be turned around and used against you. It's going to be used against you in some way. The people getting rich from this, they don't hate the government. So I think there are people who get rich from the government who don't like the government at all. They're just taking it as an opportunity and maybe they're biding their time. There's probably a couple out there, but for the most part, Daniel McAdams was telling me about a, that when he used to live in D.C. there was this community that didn't exist. And then he went there in the last couple years and this community just popped up. It's community from bo It's Boeing. It's all people who lobby and work for Boeing and it's the whole community. Well, why would they, why would they have their own community there?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, they used to have their own senator. I mean, you're old enough to remember Henry Jackson, you know, like he was no joke, the senator from Boeing. And that would actually be a little bit more honest, Right. Like if, if Lindsey Graham had to wear like a NASCAR style suit with like Raytheon and McDonnell Douglas and, you know, whatever, whoever else is, you know, behind him on his. As opposed to a three piece suit.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But like, of course there's an entire community full of people from Boeing. If you could live around a bunch of people that you like, worked with and liked and, and you know, again, there's no such thing as, as a private billion dollar corporation. There's just, I mean, go back and re. Listen to the John C. Calhoun episodes again, reread them, read it yourself, listen to them two or three times. There is no such thing

[Pete Quinones]

as

[Dark Enlightenment]

purely private economy. There's people in power and there's people out of power and there's people who are dependent on the state.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

If you have power and money that's somehow tied to the state apparatus, it can't not be. I mean, that's just how it works. The state apparatus is how we, you know, generate and allocate money and power. That's the point of the apparatus, is to like, hand out money and power to people.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, I was telling you privately, but like, I can't believe I ever took Thomas Jefferson seriously after rereading Calhoun.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. I mean, Thomas Jefferson is, it's, it's platitudes, it's wishes, it's, it's fantasy, it's just, it's just flights of fancy. And, you know, it's one of those ways. It's one of the reasons why once you really start studying and understanding power, you, you're like, all right, I don't hate Alexander Hamilton as much as I used to because he was one of the only ones who was realistic about the whole thing. He's like, this is going to turn. This is going to be a bank. This is going to be a bank attached to a state. Okay? That's what, that's what countries become. Let's just get it out of the way right from the start.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, or just admitting that power was real. I mean, something as simple as power is real, you're gonna have to deal with it. And you're right, you know, for, for. Up until, I would say, World War I, probably, we were just a, you know, I mean, listen to Tom Luongo. Tom's. Tom's been banging on about this for, I think a Couple years.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

The City of London ran America for 150 years.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, you can make a pretty good case that. I mean, I don't know how, how tin foil you want to get, but like the Federal Reserve Rothschild Bank Connection, J.P. morgan, like, I mean, you can make a pretty solid argument that they still do. And you know, Jerome Powell, the Fed chairman. Right. That we're all supposed to hate because end the Fed, it's the, it's the most terrible. You know, we're supposed. I remember hating the Fed chairman for years, but Jerome Powell is like the one, maybe half a handful of people in Washington who's actually trying to preserve American sovereignty that might be completely out of his own self interest of like there's no point of being, you know, king of the dung heap if the dollar goes to zero, but you know, what's the point of being Fed Chairman then? But Jerome Powell is actually trying to divorce our system from the City of City of London. So, you know, Alexander Hamilton might have been a bad guy, you know, ran around on his wife, you know, dueled, drank excessively, whatever, but he was at least acknowledging that like you have to have your own bank to be sovereign. I don't like it, but it's true.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, the, it's very easy to look at the Fed because, you know, money printing abilities, what they can do with interest rates basically. And yeah, and you'll even get people who are, you know, big fans of the founders will be like, well, Congress should be running that. That's what, that's what Congress is for. Sure. I agree. Should, should, would, could, ought. It ought to be like this. You can just act like libertarians all day. But what is he doing now? What is as Luongo. Yeah, I had somebody come into the live chat on a live stream and just start arguing about pal saying Powell's not our friend and everything. I'm like, well, go listen to Luongo. So he goes, I listen to Luongo. I just disagree with him. And I'm like, that's great. Okay, at least that's honest. At least you went and listened to them. You can't get people with platforms that could actually get a message out there that possibly could. I'm not a populist. I don't want. I think it would be really scary if 200 million people all of a sudden decided that the Fed was the Fed needed to be ended. Because when you have that, if you have that many people, you're leaning a little more towards what France was in the 1790s than what the United States was, what the revolution. The differences between the revolutions. And really, we don't want, we don't want the French one here.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Maybe we're, yeah, we definitely don't want the French one. We can maybe argue about the American one, but definitely don't want to.

[Pete Quinones]

Right, but just trying to get through people's skulls that, okay, let's look at the, look at what the evidence is. Look at what he's talking about. You know, you shared this Fortune article with me where he's talking about commercial real estate, something I was talking about in March of 2020 because I said, oh, all these people working from home, all these companies are going to figure, well, we don't need to pay for brick and mortar. Mortar. I'm like, we're going to have a commercial real estate crisis at some point. And, you know, if it seems like he's locked into the fact that, yeah, there's some real bad commercial, there's some commercial real estate problems happening now. And you know what happens if, if we have a commercial real estate crisis?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, it's already there. Yeah, it's impossible to avoid. There's articles in Forbes and Fortune. So this is not like, you know, tinfoil hat conspiracy dot, you know, duh biz, basically, right? You know, and Donald Trump actually probably would, would be one of the best people to be in office to understand this because he's built a, you know, billion dollar fortune off of commercial real estate. But, you know, two generations of, three generations of his family involved in commercial real estate. But for ease of math, right, A big building in a core downtown of any big city in America, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, New York, Los Angeles, whatever, is gonna be like $100 million, right? And even really, really rich people don't like just spending $100 million straight up without any kind of return. So what they'll do is they'll spend $15 million and finance the rest. Right? Because the architects are going to cost, you know, a couple million bucks all by itself. The structural engineers are going to cost millions of dollars. The construction is going to cost million tens of millions of dollars, and the concrete guys alone are going to cost millions of dollars. No one wants to just lay out this huge sum of money for no return or no return over, over time. So they, they talk to banks just like this is what that Donald Trump had to go to, you know, the half billion dollar fine or whatever that ended up getting, getting reduced, that was over this sort of deal. Well, you know, they, they have us like this thing needs to be, you know, X percent occupied for this thing to pay off. And it's usually like 80% plus somewhere between 80 and 90. They don't want it like 100 occupied because that leaves them with no flexibility all the time. But, like, you know, mostly occupied. Well, all of these and a lot of local governments, right, they're dependent on the property tax revenue brought by these commercial buildings. Your, your businesses pay property taxes. If you own the building, you pay property taxes, right? So that whoever owns that building that your office is in, you know, pays property taxes and that goes to schools and roads and etc. Etc. Etc. Well, if none of these buildings are actually worth any money, you know, to use the $100 million building example, right, you've got $85 million financed. In order to pay off that $85 million financed, you have to have 80% occupancy of the building. Otherwise you can't pay the bank back or the building is worth less money. And so the bank will say, we have this, this building worth $100 million. We have 85% of it as part of our portfolio. It's an asset. We can get loans. But what if that building's only worth $70 million? Because it's not. Instead of being 85% occupied, it's 65% occupied. All of a sudden, the bank has a hard, huge problem because they're not get, you know, the land, the landlord's not getting paid, so he's going to have a hard time making the note. And whatever the bank has done on the back end of, like, we have this gigantic asset, and if they have to mark that down, huge numbers of banks in this country will just go belly up that fast, like, instantly, because they'll have taken a 5, 10, 15% cut in. What their evaluation is, and then the margins are too small for them to just weather that without having a major problem. And then what is the city going to do? They're dependent on this tax revenue of in XYZ Tower, that's worth $100 million. They pay $250,000 a year in property taxes. What if they're only paying $175,000 in property taxes next year? What are you going to do then? Where are you going to go with the extra, you know, 75,000 bucks? You know, it's a gigantic mess. And this is, this is, this is what libertarians ought to be doing, is like spiking the ball in the end zone on this sort of stuff, as opposed to being like The Zurich pronouns are this and like, illegal. Mexicans should be allowed, allowed to have guns because everyone deserves to have guns. Even though, like, crazy people who are like, high all the time.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, priorities, right? I mean, really, how many of them own commercial real estate?

[Dark Enlightenment]

All the libertarians I used to know? None.

[Pete Quinones]

And no, I have not owned commercial real estate. No, I have an uncle who made a lot of money in commercial real estate for a lot of years, especially in the 80s. But that doesn't make me an expert on it. It doesn't make me. But I can still talk about it. I can still examine it, but this just isn't on, you know, their radar. And it really, I mean, take it to conservatives too. Is it on their radar? They're not thinking about it. They're not thinking. I mean, what is it? They could be talking about this, or they could be talking about Michelle Obama's penis. What, what would they rather be talking about?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Big Mike.

[Pete Quinones]

Good.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, I mean, let's, let's be honest. Talking about Big Mike is far more entertaining.

[Pete Quinones]

It's entertaining, yes, but it's, you know, still, it's like, what are you doing? You know, why are you, why are you going after Tick tock? What is it? The enemy is within the gates. The enemy is inside. And they keep on pointing out, they keep want to point outside. You know, they don't want to talk about. You never hear them saying, you know, when we get power, some of the things these people have done, have, or criminal. We really should try to, you know, penalize them for it. Take them to court, throw them in jail. Why would they want to do that? They just want to be left alone. I just want to be left alone. Hey, if you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. I used to say that when I was a libertarian. Just leave me alone. I'll leave you alone. And you realize how it's just, it's loser mentality. Because no one's going to say that unless they're losing.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But not only is no one going to say that unless they're losing, it guarantees you to lose. Because if the guy that wants to be left alone is always going to lose to the guy that's like, I want to take your lunch money, I want to kick your grandma out of her house, and I want to screw your sister. Maybe he only gets two out of three, but he took all your lunch money and kicked your grandma out of your house.

[Pete Quinones]

Why are there more people right now talking about Carl Schmidt than there were 10, 15 years ago? Because people See, that friend, enemy is. It's so clear. It's so clear. And when you point that out to them, when you point that out to the people who are losing and just want to be left alone, just want to win. If we just get Trump reelected, he's going to do everything. This pressure release valve, you know how QAnon was the pressure release valve for the first term, what's going to be the pressure release valve for the second term if he does get elected? Where it's like, oh, we don't have to do anything anymore. Somebody's coming to save us. No, no. Trump was president for four years. He had very little and accomplished very little. Why? Because he wasn't in power. And he was in power, but he wasn't using power. And then when you talk about using power, well, that's immoral.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right?

[Pete Quinones]

Okay, then.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Has the, has the best answer to this question. I believe he calls it forced rustication. It's like, no, you're just, you can go live in the middle of nowhere, even somewhere nice. Like you, you can have your little island in the Caribbean. It's just that, you know, there's a boat once a month, there's no planes, there's no satellite communications, and you're not in power anymore. But notably, you know, who did Carl Schmidt cite all the time in From America?

[Pete Quinones]

Was it Calhoun?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, right. Like, the one serious thinker that, like, people cited in your, in, you know, European universities was John C. Calhoun. Like, this is. So it's, it's not like, for the, for the people that want to be like, that's a foreign weird ideology. It's John C. Calhoun. It's translated, it's translating John C. Calhoun into German. That's what it is. I mean, there's, there's additional insights. And I don't want to take anything away from Carl Schmitt. He's obviously a genius. But, like, there are plenty of Americans who understood the way the game is played. You just haven't heard about them. You're not allowed to talk about them. You know, all this hate, you know,

[Pete Quinones]

you don't want to be, you know, you don't want to be a fascist, do you? You don't want, you don't want to be called a fascist, do you?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, I mean, if you, if being called a fascist means, like, I don't think that you should be able to, like, rape dons or sexually mutilate children or systematically disenfranchise and destroy the economics of American families, okay, fine, I'm fascist. I Don't care. I mean, if, if you want to be strict about it and be like, do you subscribe to everything Benito Mussolini wrote in the doctrines of Fascism?

[Pete Quinones]

No, I don't.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But considering fascism has lost all meaning to the point where Paul Gottfried is a fascist, then, okay, I guess me and, me and Paul Gottfried the Jew can be fascist together.

[Pete Quinones]

They're not serious. I mean, and that's the problem is, is when you get to this point in, like, empire, you don't have a lot of serious people. So you look on the left. Okay, who, who are the serious political thinkers on the left right now? Are there any.

[Dark Enlightenment]

There haven't been any for decades. I mean, like, Noam Chomsky kinda, but he's lost his fastball for years and he's very dishonest, always has been.

[Pete Quinones]

But all this is, is a machine rolling on. And this machine was designed to serve the managerial class. And the managerial class doesn't even have to be that smart. They just have to know how to keep the machine going. Somebody has to figure out. Somebody has to step in and go, well, I'm this machine. I'm putting a wrench in the gears. This machine can't go on anymore. But if you talk about that, if you talk about, let's face it, we both know this, this form of government, whatever it is, cannot exist. Whatever the next thing is, it can't be this. When a car breaks down, you have two choices, okay? You know, the car is broken. You're either going to fix it or you're going to replace it. There gets a point with a car where you're like, I just can't fix this anymore. I'm just going to replace it. We, we passed a replacement part like, 75 years ago. It needed to be replaced then. And people are so into this civic religion of, well, what else could it be? If it's not going to be this, it's going to. Going to be fascism. Okay? If. If whatever you think fascism is, if it dismantles this and gives you the ability to, I don't know, have a farm, have a family, be able to, you know, like some countries are doing now, if you have five kids, you don't have to pay taxes ever again for the rest of your life. Countries that are doing that are being called fascists. Is that okay?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Maybe Kelly is being called the fascist for, like, throwing people who have the I commit crimes tattooed on their face. Like, hey, I'm just going to believe you when you say, like, I've murdered people. Like, when you have the I murder people tattoo on your face. Then he's just like, okay, I believe you that you murdered people. And guess what we do to murder people who murder people? We throw them in jail. And all of a sudden, he's a fascist for, like, hey, I think ordinary people shouldn't have to be, like, worried about, like. Like the demon tattoo face guy showing up at their, you know, their little bodega stand and, like, taking all their profits for years at a time. Like, okay, if that's fascist, right?

[Pete Quinones]

If.

[Dark Enlightenment]

If Viktor Orban and Paul Gottfried and Peter Bermilo and naive Bukele and, You know, Curtis Yarvin and Vladimir Putin are all fascist, the term has lost all meaning and it should be mocked.

[Pete Quinones]

When you come to a point in civilization and there were groups in Europe in the 1920s and 30s who decided that, okay, there's a threat. This threat will end our civilization. It will destroy everything that our people stood for, that our faith families stood for, that our. Our country stood for this land. It will destroy everything. It will. It will ravage it like locusts. There will be nothing left. We need to do something, and we need to do something, and it's going to. Look, it's going to be really, really drastic. Okay, that sounds like if you. If you've diagnosed a problem that, well, then, well, you're going to do something. You're going to do things that people are going to look at and go, maybe you shouldn't be doing that. Well, maybe they shouldn't be raping nuns. Maybe they shouldn't be burning churches down.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You ever seen what happens in a controlled, hard landing on an airplane, like with the train that has to slam on the brakes?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Or a big truck when they have to. When they have to slam on the brakes, like, it's ugly. There's a bunch of damage that's done. It's not good. Right. People get thrown around. Stuff gets thrown around, brakes break, stuff smokes, tires get shredded. But, like, if the alternative is, like, driving off the cliff, you got to slam in those brakes and maybe, you know, bounce into a few trees here and there's. If the alternative is end up at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, it's.

[Pete Quinones]

And it's. It's.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's basically our choice right.

[Pete Quinones]

Now. The problem with those situations, I was in an aborted landing once that really. I mean, if it was one of the most frightening things I've ever been, and we were literally like 10ft off the ground when the landing got aborted, and at least you know that you're in danger. The problem is you know it at that moment. You know you're in danger. People don't feel like they're in danger yet. You know, when, you know, maybe in 10 years, when boomers are going to be loaded onto boxcars by their trans grandkids because of something they said on Twitter, like, you know, two weeks ago, two weeks previous to now, maybe then they'll get it. But I don't. Yeah, I don't trust people anymore. I don't trust the public to do anything. I know people. I judge people by talking to them. The masses are, I mean, wanting, advocating for the individual liberty of masses who don't. Wouldn't be willing to even step up and speak about their individual liberty. Why are you wasting your time? No, these are the people who are. These are people who are equally the enemy, okay? But also, they're also people waiting to be led. You know, the proverbial. You know, there's a crown laying in the gutter right now, and now we're just waiting for someone to pick it up, but it's like, oh, no, that person's gonna become a king. They're gonna become a dictator. They're gonna become totalitarian. They said the same thing. They're saying the same thing about Bukele. They're saying, I mean, Guy, what, 87 of the vote? Yeah, so.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Or Vladimir Putin. They've said the same thing about him for 20 years.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, like.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, look at that. Maybe 80 of the population wants to live in a society that functions and they don't care how it gets there, you know? Yeah, I don't care. I would like to be able to go, you know, visit big city XYZ and go to a symphony. I'd like to be able to go to the opera. I'd like to be able to go to a concert and not encounter people who are on drugs and who might attack me. I would like.

[Pete Quinones]

Same here, man.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I would. I would like to be able to go, you know, buy raw milk from a guy that I know and not have him be attacked. I would like my society to not be invaded by tens of millions of invaders from all across the planet. But we're not in power right now, and the people that are don't care, and they don't play by rules, and they don't. I mean, you know, I mean, you and I haven't always agreed on everything, Pete, but, like, between the two of us, right, we can come to sort of motives Vivendi and, like, if we have a real disagreement. We'll. We'll play by Queensberry rules. And neither of us want to, you know, cheap shots or, you know, but there's no. They killed millions of people with COVID Millions of people were killed on a disease that was man made in a lab with a cooperation of the United States government and the Chinese Communist Party. And you're telling me. And no one's going to see any jail time. And no one's like you. You have. And, and most people in America, if you say, hey, guess what? You know, the head of the NIH lied, Francis Collins lied, lied. And they have email proof like, like actual honest to God proof that like, these people lied. And businesses were destroyed. Tens of millions of people were thrown into poverty. You know, government balance sheets all across the world got wrecked, the economy got destroyed. Millions of people got sick. You know, tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people have had this vaccine that has done major damage. We don't know really terms of numbers. And nothing's going to happen to these people until you decide that, like, oh, people who will do that to people and murder 60 billion babies in the womb and lie about the neuron pigeon. They might not believe in rules. I know this is a shock to you, Pete, but like, if you're willing to like, murder millions of babies, you might be a bad person. Like, they're just bad people doing bad things. And until people understand that until, until they can make the friend enemy distinction and like, go through the Pete Quinones University of. Of crime think and, and listen to all the readings you've done and, and all that, I don't think that they're going to be able to understand. And I think that that's why you've been, you know, demonetized in YouTube and everything else, because you're waking people up.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, we're. You will hear people say we're ruled by psychopaths. And then if somebody gets righteous anger and steps up and says, well, somebody needs to pick up that crown and do something about it, they're more scared of that person than the, I guess the devil they know. And until they get past the. That fear and until they get that kind of righteous anger amongst themselves, why would anybody step up? You know, the only good thing to me, the only good thing populism is for is for to so that that person out there who wants to pick up that crown gauges that there's a he. He'll have enough support to do it. Notice I didn't say she. He'll have enough support to do it. And yeah, yeah, if you keep counter signaling that person, they're not going to show up. They're not going to show up. Look, I know you. I know you got to go, so I'll let you. You want me to link to your telegram chat so people can go in and. And read your musings?

[Dark Enlightenment]

That would be very kind of you. Thank you so much for having me, Pete.

[Pete Quinones]

I will. Thanks and see you on the Next Thought Crime Syndicate, where I think we just decided what to do for the next one and I think people will like it.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Sounds good, man.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, Later. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pican Yellow Show. Dark Enlightenment's back. How you doing, D?

[Dark Enlightenment]

I'm fantastic, Pete. Thank you so much for having me back. It's always a pleasure to be here.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, we're going to read this article by Thomas E. Woods, Jr. I've heard of that guy.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Me too.

[Pete Quinones]

I think I know who that guy is. It looks like this was written in 1997 actually. And yeah, you had brought this article up. You told me about it a couple years ago. So you had the idea of reading and commenting on it. Why?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, if I could just fanboy out here for just a second. Tom woods, if you hear this, you're a hero. You're one of my personal heroes. I cannot state how much regard I hold you in and how highly I think of you and your scholarship and your stand for what is good, true and right. And this essay in particular, when I counted it many, many years ago, changed

[Pete Quinones]

my life

[Dark Enlightenment]

because it told me all kinds of things about the true nature of our conflict, that it's not just a economic thing or anything else. It's a religious conflict between good and evil. And I just, the moral clarity and truth in this particular essay just blew my mind when I first read it like 20 years ago. And I think more people need to. Need to read it. And I know Tom is normally very, very measured, very just the facts, you know, very dispassionate. And I think that's a credit to him. But this essay in particular, I think he gets a little bit more. Maybe emotional or isn't quite so disinterested, scholarly, I guess. And I think that that's actually a really important part of this is, is that, you know, our enemies, they're not just people that like, we disagree with about a 20 tax versus a 30 tax. They want bad things because they're morally bad people. And, and I just want to say that Tom woods had the courage to write this, you know, 30 years ago and, and it reflects very well on him and I learned a lot from it. And so I just think more people should, should be aware of it.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, sounds. That's heartfelt. All right, let's get into it. I'm going to start reading and you like always do stop whenever you wish. Christendom's Last Stand by Thomas E. Woods Jr. 1997. Richard Weaver begins Ideas have Consequences by admitting that this is another book about the dissolution of the West. American conservatives have frequently looked to the New Deal for the origins of this more general dissolution. But both of these giant leaps forward had precedence earlier in US History. The real watershed from which we can trace many of the destructive trends that continue to ravage our civilization today was the defeat of the Confederate States of America in 1865. Our so called intellectual class insists that the war was fought over slavery, pure and simple. An argument which the Southern activist finds himself responding to with a depressing frequency. A similarly myopic approach to history would conclude that America's first war for independence was fought over a small tax on tea. Astute observers on both sides of the conflict in fact recognized the war less as a clash between two systems of labor than between two kinds of civilization. Southern theologian James Henley Henry Lee Thornwell described the two sides this way. Quote, the parties in this conflict are not merely abolitionists and slaveholders. They are atheists, socialists, communists, Red Republicans, Jacobins on the one side, and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other. In one word, the world is the battleground. Christianity and atheism the combatants and the progress of humanity is at stake.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Doesn't that just describe the day to a T?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it's whenever you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

He could have written that yesterday with updates for language, you know, style and such, but. But effectively. Right, and this is why I, I kind of bothered Pete to get it in in June, because we have an alternate religion that is imposing itself on the public right now.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

If we lived in a Christian country, there'd be banners to the Sacred Heart everywhere in every public space for the month of June. But we live in a devil country. We live in a demon country. We live in live in an evil country. And so there are banners to the first sin of Satan all in our public spaces and our banks and all our major institutions cow dao to literal Satanism. And Henley Thornwell saw this 150, 200 years ago.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, the. When you look at the list, I just started my reading of the Last Crusade by Carol about the Spanish Civil War. And this is the Spanish Civil War. Atheist Socialists, Communists, Red Republicans, Jacobins.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yep, it is. I was just thinking about that because I know you and I have talked about the Last Crusade is another book that changed my life, but we'll get into that at some later date. But no, this is vitally important to understand that these people haven't changed one bit since Thornbill wrote that in what, 1854 or something? I can't remember when he wrote it, but he wrote it a long, long time ago.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, I'm going to keep going. This assessment was quite common among Southern theologians to the south, wrote Benjamin Morgan. Palmer is assigned the high position of defending before all nations the cause of all religion and of all all truth. Looking back on the conflict, Robert Louis Dabney, one of the most brilliant of the Southern Presbyterian theologians, agreed that it had fallen to the south to defend eternal truths from the onslaught of an alien ideology. Quoting Providence ordained that the modern rationalism should select as its concrete object of attack our form of society and our rights. Much of the conflict, in fact, can be summed up in what Richard Weaver identified as the two types of American individualism, each of which is endemic to a particular section of the country. Henry David Thoreau represents the philosophy of Northern radicals. His is an aesthetic philosophy which refuses to recognize any authority to which the individual has not explicitly consented and which in any case case tends to shun collective affiliations of any kind. Who does that sound like now? Sounds like a lot of libertarians. Even a lot of conservatives, I think, would agree with that. They would think that any kind of collectivism would be. Is socialism? Is communism? Anticipating Thoreau, many modern political philosophers, when speaking speaking in favor of individual liberty, have criticized not simply the state, but also the various intermediary institutions, such as family, church, and community, that stand between the individual and the state. This is certainly true in the case of Hobbes and Rousseau, who viewed with extreme suspicion any independent association that existed wholly outside of and prior to the central state. Rousseau feared that such associations, by dividing the individuals along allegiance, would impair the functioning of the general will. And John Stuart Mill is only one of the many classical liberals who consider the bonds of community and other such affiliations to be nearly as threatening to individual liberty as the state itself. But the cult of the individual that has flourished since the Enlightenment and which has celebrated man's progressive emancipation from the various corporate bodies that once commanded his allegiance, can no longer claim the moral high ground for what was supposed to have been mankind's. Most progressive, enlightened century has yielded only disillusionment and alienation and I would say, mass slaughter.

[Dark Enlightenment]

How many people died as a direct result? I mean, you can, you can criticize the Civil War and, and certainly both of us are now fans of. Of Mr. Lincoln or of the Civil. The way the Civil War turned out or. And, you know, when I both spent, you know, a great deal of time talking about this. But the result, right. Some guy once said, by your fruits, ye shall know them.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And when our Lord talked about that in the gospel, you can apply that like, what's the 20th century? You know, they lied us into every war in the 20th century after this, Right?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Spain didn't blow up the main. Okay, Spain had gone through. How many civil wars had Spain gone through in the 19th century, Pete?

[Pete Quinones]

3.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Plus the worst with Napoleon, which is effectively a civil war, right? So there's the three Carlos wars and the war with Napoleon. The occupation, the total destruction of Spain, the occupation of both Spain and Portugal, right? So Spain, barely hanging on to its colonies, right. Blows up the battleship of the most powerful country in the world at that time, or the second or third most powerful country with what, five times the people, ten times the economy?

[Pete Quinones]

Right? Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, the loose to Tanya, you know, World War II, we could go on and on and on, but for our own good. These red Republicans, these Jacobins, these secular saviors, have lied us into all of these wars that have gotten tens of millions of people killed and have lied about, you know, oh, yeah, Social Security, they've. Where is the fruit? Where are the large, happy families? Where are the beautiful cities? Where are the, you know, gleaming roads and that are in perfect repair? Where's the beautiful vistas with the nice, you know, roadside? Where is all this. Where's this utopia that they promised us, you know, in Onward Christian Soldiers?

[Pete Quinones]

Individualism has, you know, and when you. If you would criticize individualism, people will say, well, no, we never real. That wasn't real individualism. Well, what was it? The only way it can be individual is if a state doesn't exist. Well, that's not going to happen. So maybe stop. Maybe stop making stuff up. We can talk about the Easter Bunny for an hour if people want to, or Santa Claus, and then you can talk about anarchy.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No, no, no, no. The problem is you just don't believe in the Tooth fairy hard enough. And the problem is with those Santa Claus people and the Easter Bunny people, because they're both religious fanatics. But the Tooth fairy, that tooth fairy Is real.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I mean, the Tooth Fairy does create an economic zone.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, obviously that's why the Tooth Fairy's

[Pete Quinones]

real,

[Dark Enlightenment]

because the only thing exists is economics.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Because Santa Claus is just a socialist just giving you stuff. So. But in, but, but with the Tooth Fairy, it's. It's a fair trade. It's a fair trade. All right, I'm going to keep going. Oh, and before we go on, Oren MacIntyre put out an episode this week on his show talking about maybe you don't want the state to be smaller.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yes. Brilliant episode. Everyone needs to go listen to it.

[Pete Quinones]

Yes. He talks about blue laws for people who don't let. No, blue laws would be like, cancel alcohol on Sundays or you can't open any stores on Sundays. And he talked about how those laws actually make the state smaller. And that is so foreign to most people who believe the state is Satan and radical individualism is Jesus that they can't even begin to understand why blue laws would make the state smaller.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yes, and Tom will get into it later than. But it is precisely because we've made individualism the lodestar of our society that the state has gotten so big because there are no more ethnic clubs or there's no more fraternal lodges and there's no more churches and there's no more associations and there's no more. You know, Tom will get into this in the essay. But, but, you know, big government is not necessarily bad government. A state that says. I was on with Jason, Jason from two bit podcast a couple weeks ago, right. And Jason was kind enough to have me on. And one of the things that got brought up was Jillian Michaels talking about how she was leaving California and she was just really sickened by the, like, the legalization of pedophilia by homosexual men. And you know, she's a half Arab, half Jewish, you know, lesbian with adopted foreign kids who are both, you know, black and Latino and blah, blah, blah. You know, she's laying out all of her cards. She's got all the cards in the Victim Olympics. A state that just says, that's really nice, Ms. Michaels, but. But you're like a foreigner and a pervert, so you just don't get to talk here is much, much freer than a state that just says, oh, we're all individuals, right. This idea that the government, you know, any use of morals enforcement by the government is inherently wrong because it somehow impinges on individual's freedom is how we got here. You know, if we, if we were to wind the clock back to 1997 when Tom wrote this and didn't change any of the inputs, we'd end up where we're at. So, yeah, you need to turn things around. You need to change certain things. And one of those things that needs to change is this idea that the state is inherently immoral when it acts for the common good.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Nothing makes a libertarian, anarchist, or radical individualist, classical liberals head explode more than when you tell them that degeneracy grows the state, that it expands the state at a. I mean, you're talking about. You've just. You just put the pedal on the floor. But no, they don't want to hear that.

[Dark Enlightenment]

How much? How much? Who? You remember a few Years ago, Matthew McConaughey won that Oscar for Dallas Buyers Club?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Because the government was, you know, deeply concerned about aids. Who was the villain in that movie?

[Pete Quinones]

Fauci.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's right. But the. The government.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

All of a sudden there was this, you know, crisis among degenerates that required massive state intervention. And we needed to have all kinds of state sponsorship of, you know, research for this disease and state, you know, stated intervention in medicine to get this made and the stated intervention to get these people in hospice and state funding for Medicare, state funding for this and state funding for that. And, you know, a huge state outlay. Because these people.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

These people gave Anthony Fauci a bunch of power because they were sexually degenerate.

[Pete Quinones]

No. But no, Fauci should have been working for a private company. If he was working for a private company. It would have been totally different, you know, if he was the only one who could solve the problem. No, it's the monopoly. Don't you get that? It's the monopoly. It's not. It's not my actions. My actions don't. My actions only affect me. As long as I'm not hurting somebody or taking their stuff, what I'm doing to myself, that doesn't harm anyone else.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. And my son still believes in the tooth fairy, but he's four.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, let's. This kind of individualism coincides well with the designs of the omnipotent state. The central state also wants to liberate the individual from his traditional attachments, not because they infringe on his liberty. Liberty. But because they compete with the central state for his allegiance. In order to obtain absolute power, The centralizers seek to crush all competing source of authority. Historically, such despots have concealed their true intentions by claiming that only a strong central authority can adequately protect the Individual. But in practice, from whom did the state protect the individual? From family members, wives from their husbands, children from their parents, from churches, from communities? And it has done so by increasing its own power at the expense of these institutions. What Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social creature. Once these institutions have been destroyed, once they have ceased to perform their traditional roles, something will step into that vacuum. And that something is the absolute state. See, this is where people. People who are radical. Yeah. This is a place where radical individualists are going to hear those last two set. They're going to interpret it the way they want. So when it says historically such despots have concealed their true intentions, it's like, oh, it's the despots. It's all the despots fault. It doesn't matter if we get rid of churches and we get rid of civic organizations and we get rid of mutual aid societies. No, we played your town with foreigners. Yeah, no, no, that's. That's fine. It's the despot's fault. But then Tom comes back, and he, you know, says he blames. He says Thoreau and his followers were too foolish to realize is that man is a social. Social creature. That's not something that I remember. Sheldon Richmond at the Libertarian Institute put out a book called what Social Animals Owe to each Other. And when that was announced on Twitter, the amount of libertarians and anarcho capitalists that went under it and said nothing. They don't even want to know what's in the book. They just read the title and they said, I don't owe you anything. Okay.

[Dark Enlightenment]

All right. That's the game you want to. If you want to play Jungle Ball rules, right? Try. Try building a civilization. Try building a gigantic bank with beautiful parquet floors and fluted columns and towering glass skyscrapers. When we're playing Jungle bowl rules and we owe nothing to one another, and I can just like, hey, I know you've mixed all this concrete for this foundation, but I need it more, and I don't owe you anything, so I'm just gonna steal it. You sure you want to play that re. You know that game?

[Pete Quinones]

But they have 400 AR15s,

[Dark Enlightenment]

and I have a bunch of friends, and they don't have any because they're individualists.

[Pete Quinones]

That's the pro. See, that's the thing, you know, I'm sitting here where I'm sitting, and I know that if I get into trouble, there are people that I can call who will show up and who will Help me. And I'm talking about violent width of violence. How many people talking about individualism have that. How many people have gone out of their way to build the kind of social capital that these people would grab their guns and come and help protect me and protect mine, and I would do the same for them. How many of these individuals have that Very clear.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

As they're hiding, you know, as they're hiding in their homes, you know, during, during COVID tweeting about how brave they are because they didn't wear their mask in their living room. Today, the political science. Good.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And actually just a brief point about that. Okay, so all those who are the people that resisted the COVID shot, those were the people that were attached to intermediate institutions. It was the people who had a strong attachment for their church. It was the people who had a strong attachment to something else in their life. They could say, you know what? Someone at, you know, Rotary Club or someone at my church or someone else, you know, said this is nonsense and here's why. And then I looked into it and I found out it was nonsense. And right. I was having a conversation with someone yesterday and they didn't know that like the United States blew up the Nord Stream pipeline and they didn't know that. Not because they're ignorant person or they're, they're deliberately ignorant. They just don't pay attention to news. It's because they pay attention to mainstream news. And mainstream news never talked about the fact that the United States made war on, on Germany.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So it is only the people that have had these media, intermediate institutions in their lives and it could just be like a group chat, but had a source of information, a source of solidarity outside of the total state

[Pete Quinones]

that were

[Dark Enlightenment]

able to resist this. So we've seen it in action,

[Pete Quinones]

You know, and I would say that there were a lot of people who, flying the libertarian individual banner, places like Reason magazine and Cato. Cato, where that homosexual deviant David Boaz, who's burning in hell right now, died recently. Used to. Well, never mind. I won't talk about the things that have been told about people who worked at Cato, especially young men who worked at Cato, young college age men who worked at Cato and David Boas, you know, they defended the regime, they came out with articles about the libertarian argument for, for vaccine mandates and the way they get around that is. Oh, well, we just ran an opinion piece. Okay,

[Dark Enlightenment]

well, in my opinion, you know, you should have all of your wealth confiscated, your building should be salted, raised and then salted. You know, there's prime real estate, Washington D.C. that would be better used as a garbage dump rather than the Cato Institute. Because Cato. Right, because Cato isn't actually interested in building up these intermediate institutions and actually making people free.

[Pete Quinones]

No, they will write articles to tear them down and say that they're unnecessary. All we need is an economic zone, you know, with a little. With, you know, just cut. Cut about 20% of regulations and everything will be fine. You'll have some more individual liberty. The political scientist J.N. figgis was particularly prophetic when he remarked earlier this century, more and more it is clear that the mere individual's freedom against an omnipotent state may be no better than slavery. More and more it is evident that the real question of freedom in our day is freedom of the smaller unions to live within the whole.

[Dark Enlightenment]

How many people won't let Texas be Texas now because, well, the trans disabled lesbian in Austin isn't free in Texas. So we, we, the total state, must intervene on the behalf of the trans disabled lesbian in a wheelchair and make sure that people in Texas aren't able to live the way that they want because they decided as Texans like, we like guns.

[Pete Quinones]

So his most deliberate radical individualism and big government are two sides of the same coin. It has been part of the genius of Southern civilization to have recognized this all along. Repelled by a philosophy that would lead to a combination of moral anarchy and political tyranny. John Randolph of Roanoke, Weaver's second type would have none of Thoreau's pop theology of radical individualism.

[Dark Enlightenment]

He acknowledges good moral anarchy, anarcho tyranny.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

This is all you know, truth. I'm no fan of Fonz Urs. Hans Urs von Balthazar, the Catholic theologian, modernist, terrible in many, many ways. But one thing that he did say that was really, really great is that truth is a symphony. If you hear something true, it might just kind of be the windward line off in a distance, but it's gonna. It's gonna harmonize with the violin line that you hear somewhere else. So I hope Pete will include a link in the show description to this essay. But when you read it, think about all the other true things that you've heard, whether it's R in book or. Or Sam Francis or that we discussed a couple weeks ago on Lockgrounds indicated. If there's anything you get from this essay, think of how many times you could say, oh, that could have been written yesterday or that describes thing, you know, like, think about all this Stuff that's consistent with what you know.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, he, he acknowledges with Aristotle that man is a political animal and that it is only through his interaction and relationships with other people and through his membership in society that he becomes truly human. Randolph's defense of states rights, on the one hand, a repudiation of arbitrary central authority explicitly recognizes the individual status as a member of a corporate body, in this case a state. Yeah, that's one thing that you'll hear some of the libertarians who don't want you to know that they're leftist. But the easiest way, I mean, there's tons of easy ways to find out when a libertarian is really just a leftist or progressive. States can't have rights, only individuals can have rights. Well, that's not the point of state's rights is that you can only have rights as a member of a body. And this is something that CJ Engel and I were talking about saying that rights don't come from nature. Rights come from a historical cultural model of who and where you came from.

[Dark Enlightenment]

They're historically contingent.

[Pete Quinones]

Right? Yeah. The. You cannot have. As soon as you say rights are from nature, rights come from God, well, they're universal. That means that every street walking over the border has a same rights as you do now. And you can't say anything about it. Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And I have no right, you know, I mean my particular failure.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Of urban planning and city. Right. Like so if I have no right to defend my hometown, I have no right to defend my home. If I can't say that this is a town full of, you know, Scots Irish people and there's the Catholic Church and the Presbyterian Church and that's it. And if you're not Scotch, you know, if you're not Scott's Irish or married to a Scott's Irish person, you know, kindly move on down the road. Yeah, then I have, then I, then I, then, you know, I have no right to like, maybe. What about my right to not have low trust foreigners, you know, traipsing through

[Pete Quinones]

my yard

[Dark Enlightenment]

because they felt like it, you know, they've got a right to be there. Right. They live here too. What's your problem?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean, how can you have private property if you have, if rights are universal, Everybody has the rights to everything. You just fight over it. That's it. It's basically if you, if you believe in universal rights, you basically believe in. You're a, you're a Darwinist, you believe that. You know, I don't, I don't have any, I don't have any legacy. I don't come from anywhere. I don't have a people, I don't have any. It's just everyone for themselves. Or you have a cultural historical right that a group of people agree upon. And if you're not a part of that group, maybe you can marry into the group and you can adopt these beliefs. But these beliefs aren't for anybody who's just one walking in. And people just can't get that because, you know, we live in a democracy, bro, and people have rights. And then people are individuals and the state, the, the existence of the state is just, I mean you can't be, you can't have individual rights if the state exists, bro.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, Hans talked about this in multiple times. But in democracy the God fails, right? Like the, the border is just merely the collective property line of the net taxpayers of a particular polity. And that the net taxpayers of, of a particular polity don't want you to cross that mine. For whatever reason, they should be able to say hey.

[Pete Quinones]

And keep going. It is almost unnecessary to point out that over the past few centuries it has been Thoreau's brand of individualism that has flourished in Randolph's, which has suffered a precipitous decline. As Richard weaver explained in 1948, quote, for four centuries every man has been not only his own priest, but his own professor of ethics. And the consequence is an anarchy which threatens even that minimum consensus of value necessary to the political state. Today, of course, the message imbibed by our children and by all too many adults as well, is that no moral court of higher appeal exists apart from individual whim.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Bro, I just decided I'm a girl and I'm going to put on an address and you have to let me change with your daughter or you're a bigot. Yeah, I'm like 64 and 250 and fat and have a beard. But I'm a pretty girl. Pete, you have to let me, you have to let me change with change in the same changing room as your knees.

[Pete Quinones]

I'm just gonna take your, take your, your word on that. And I, I don't to see a

[Dark Enlightenment]

picture like no, and, and this is the absurdity, right? Like of course none of those things, but like no more core apart from individual whim. So we have this, this absolutely insane person. It's like I am a pretty girl and I am a 6 foot 4 man with a beard and you have to let me into the same changing room as your 12 year old daughter because my individual whim Says so.

[Pete Quinones]

As long as they're not hurting anyone. Okay, as long as they're not hurting anyone.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But what happens after they hurt someone? Because they're really likely to hurt people because they're crazy and evil.

[Pete Quinones]

What, What?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Then how about we just prevent them from hurting people by saying, yeah, Nah.

[Pete Quinones]

No.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like you're not a pretty girl underdressed. You're just a crazy person who needs to be locked up for your own good and the good of society.

[Pete Quinones]

But you're acting like the overwhelming majority of these people are on meds.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, maybe they are. And if they're not, they should be.

[Pete Quinones]

Maybe.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Maybe a dude who's 6, 4, 2 or 50 pounds who throws on a sundress and then says, I'm a pretty girl who's 12. Maybe that's your first clue that this person is in fact crazy as and probably doesn't belong in normal society.

[Pete Quinones]

Continuing. It is highly significant, therefore, that the US Constitution makes hardly any reference to individuals at all. It views Americans not as part of an undifferentiated mass, but as members of particular states with rights and traditions of their own. The Bill of Rights, moreover, erroneously invoked by modern civil libertarians, was never intended to protect individuals from the state governments. Jefferson is far from alone in assisting that the only federal government, that only the federal government is restricted from regulating the press, church, state relations and so forth. The states may do as they wish in these areas and they know this and Roe v. Wade. That's why when, you know, when the Dobbs decision was overturned, they lost their minds because they know it goes back to the state. And a state can be. Well, you can't get an abortion here and an abortion is. An abortion is their sacred, one of their sacred sacraments.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, yeah, my friend Spector at third rail many years ago, you know, we were joking around, but he came, came up with an insight. You know, USA stands for user E. Sodomy and abortion. And it has for a long, long time. And when you have a society built on free money and sexual immorality, that's a society doomed to fail. Nine of the 13 original colonies, I think, had established churches. You know, men were hung for sodomy.

[Pete Quinones]

What was Maryland? Maryland, yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It was Catholic. Men were hung for sodomy. In George Washington's army. Thomas Jefferson thought that sodomite should receive the death penalty. Thomas Jefferson, this is not, you know, arch reactionary crypto monarchist Alexander Hamilton. This is old TJ Pot smoking libertarian himself thought sodomite should be executed.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And, and if you didn't like, you know, the way a particular state and there were actual conflicts. Tom talks about these in other books he's talked about. But like, you know, if you were from Rhode island and you didn't like, you know, and this happened a lot actually, you know, particularly obnoxious people be like, well, I'm a congregationalist and I'm going to go into Massachusetts, the established Puritan, you know, state, and just be obnoxious and cause trouble. And they'd be like, well, we don't want you here. Leave. You're deliberately being a pain in the ass.

[Pete Quinones]

Go away.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And if, if me as someone who lives in a red state, I don't want like pornography, billboards on the side of my street, on the side of the highway, you know, I don't want my child who's just now learning to read, going live nude nud girls. Hey, mom, why does that lady not have any clothes on when we're driving down the street? I want to be able to ban that. I don't care about your first men right to display pornography to small children on the side of the road. And millions of other parents should have the right to say, yeah, no, no, no advertising strip clubs on billboards in our state.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I mean, it just means you're a prude of some sort and you know, you hate other people's freedoms. You just want. Yep.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And I have rights too. Why can't I live in the kind of society I want? Why, why do sane people, normal people, historically the norm people? Why do they always have to give, give way to red Republicans and Jacobins and crazy people and perverts? Why is it always that I have to lose and you get to win and anytime I say, hey, I object, you get to follow me home till you're sitting on my front porch blaring obscene music and showing my children pornography? Because technically speaking, being right on outside the sidewalk in front of my house, you're in public, so I can't just shoot you. Technically speaking, I didn't follow you home. No. Everyone on my street should be able to say, hey, cut that out, or we're gonna, you know, solve this problem as a corporate body. We're going to engage them in some collective self defense and stop you from acting this way.

[Pete Quinones]

Sounds like fascism to me. D. Sounds like fascism.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, well, that's, I, I, I no longer really care about that sort of label. Call me that all day long.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it's like, and you're a fascist and what are you gonna do about it?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Kind of Kind of honestly disappointed. There was a fascism test going around in the. The very good, you know, private group chat for the show. And. And I only scored, like an 87.

[Pete Quinones]

I don't know. Out of 100, I think I got an 80. I think I got an 83.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, well, I mean, I was hoping for a 90. You know, I was hoping for an A, but I'll take the B plus.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I'll be fine with the B.

[Dark Enlightenment]

All right.

[Pete Quinones]

For the first seven decades of its existence, the United States found its constituent parts of the very rebellious. Indeed, many Americans would have agreed with John Randolph of Roanoke, about whom John Greenliff Whittier once wrote, to be honest, or too proud to feign a love he never cherished beyond Virginia's borders line, his patriotism perished.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, not only was John Randolph a great American and a great man, but, like, how absurd is it that we have military bases from Maine to Hawaii and from Florida to Alaska and that. That someone from Hawaii, a congressional representative from Hawaii, a senator from Hawaii can vote on stuff that happens in Maine or someone in Florida can vote on something that happens in Alaska or that some Alaskan can vote on something that happens in Florida? Florida. It's ridiculous. You know, maybe if you were in Alabama, you might have some say about what happens in Georgia and Florida and Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee, because those could affect you. What the. What do you care what happens in Idaho? Like, if you care what happens in Idaho, as someone from Alabama, there's something wrong with you.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, because what they accuse us of is what they're always guilty of. They accuse us of caring about what's happening, you know, what they're doing in their bedroom across the country while they're, you know, worried about what we're doing. If I never have to go above the Mason Dixon line again, I'll be happy. I'm fine where I am. But, yeah, they, you know, and another thing is they hate us because, you know, we believe in God. We go to church. We do this. They have their own God. They have their own church. Yes, they have their. And they don't realize that. They don't realize that, like, you know, if they find out that Alabama outlawed abortion, they're going to want to do something about it. Okay, why? You live in New York.

[Dark Enlightenment]

What do you care? Why do you care what happens in Alabama? They're just a bunch of dumb rednecks anyway. Why do you care? Well, they can't be dumb rednecks. Why? Why can't they be dumb rednecks? I mean, if you think that they're a bunch of troglodyte knuckle dragging hicks who, you know, drive F250s and you know, smoke Marlboro Reds and dip and they go to even deals with her. Yeah, right. Why do you care what these people do? Oh, because your religion compels you to. Well, my religion compels me to stop people murdering babies. Yeah, well, so, so which religion is true? Well, there's only one way to solve that particular problem. Problem. And ain't through argumentation ethics. Nope.

[Pete Quinones]

Oh no, no. I, I, I caught you in a performative contradiction. I win. I win. Oh, wait a minute. Why are you, why, why are you pointing a gun at me? Oh, because no one give, because no one in the real world gives a about argumentation ethics. You have to be some autistic, you know, friggin. I'm not gonna straw man them, but they, yeah, it's just, I mean theory is fun. Yeah, I like reading, I like reading theory. But I also exist. I exist in the real world. And in the real world there are people and there are people who you have to, you either respect their boundaries and you do what you can to help them if they need it, or you are going to have chaos. And the, the best way to not have a problem with helping them or even having the local government force people to help them, but which you don't really need to do if you share a culture and you share values, you share religion, you sound alike, you look alike. There was no problem in Sweden with their gigantic welfare state until they started importing, until they started emptying the prisons of Africa and putting those people in there. Then it became a problem until there was a bunch of economics.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

Economics aside. Yeah. It wasn't a problem because they all looked alike.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, they believed alike. They were all in different Lutherans. They were all Swedish genetically.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

They, they all came from the same places.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You could, if you've ever been to Europe, right, Ben?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And lived there a significant or spent a significant amount of time there.

[Pete Quinones]

Live there. Yep.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Then you can start to recognize like that guy's not just German, he's like Bavarian, you know, like pure Bavarian phenotype is a thing. Right. Like, oh, that guy's a Saxon. Well, how do you know? I mean, we'll just look at the guy. He's from Saxony. All of his parents, grandparents, great grandparents, great, great grandparents, all of them were Saxons. And, and probably he came from this. And I'm not very good at it, but if you Spend any significant amount of time in, you know, Europe and start to notice these things. You can notice like, this guy's from this. This place. And most of the time you're right. Right. One of the rules I have in my life is that no one, no woman with. With East Anglia face should ever be allowed to have political power. And you can see it like kind of the pinch school marm look, the Elizabeth Warren Governor Kate Brown of Oregon, right? Like, nope, nope. Just no. You look like you told Goody Thompson, you know, said Goody Thompson was having sex with the devil. I'm just not going to let you have political power because that East Anglian school marm stuff just leads to disaster, as Tom has elucidated here.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, let's go. We. We got. We got more to. I just checked. We got a good bit more here, so. All right. Upon ratifying the Constitution, for example, several states explicitly reserve the right to withdraw from the new union whensoever the same shall be perverted to her injury or oppression. And all the states retain the spirit of resistance. Well into the 19th century, John Taylor of Caroline, repelled by the alien and sedition acts, advocated secession. As early as 1798, Madison and Jefferson drew up the Virginia and Kentucky resolutions respectively, the latter of which suggested the doctrine of nullification, whereby a state government could interpose between the people and the federal government when the latter exceeds its legitimate constitutional authority. And Tom has a full book called nullification. You read all about it. After the Louisiana Purchase and then again after Jefferson's 1807 embargo, former Secretary of state Timothy Pickering gained some temporary support, support for a plan by which New England and New York would succeed and form an independent country. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard. Yeah, right. Yeah. The 1814 Hartford Convention is often cited in this regard as secessionist in character. But we now know that it was convened by moderate federalists who hope to keep secession secessionist sentiment at bay. The point remains, however, that secessionist sentiment was widespread and by no means was it confined to the South. And these are but a few of the lesser known examples of the jealousy with which the states once guarded their sovereignty and independence. The nullification crisis of the early 1830s, for instance, has not even been mentioned. The secession of the southern states was. Was virtually the last sign of life to emerge from a once vibrant federal system. For by the 1860s, such figures as Andrew Johnson and Ben Wade were prepared to dismiss as traitors anyone who even applied appealed to the Constitution, let alone advocated secession. And in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 1869 that secession was unconstitutional. Not surprisingly, after the war it became common to replace the old expression the United States are with the United States is, or these United States. Replace these United States with the United States. Most significant for our purposes was the ratification by highly questionable means of the 14th Amendment. Now we can debate the original intent of this Amendment, but it seems clear that it inaugurated a radically new stage in American constitutional history. From the point of view of the federal central government, the fundamental units of the federal union were no longer the several states, but the individuals of which those states were composed.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Can I talk about this for a second?

[Pete Quinones]

Sure, go ahead.

[Dark Enlightenment]

So just as an exercise is, it's a useful thing to do. Copy and paste the text of the 14th Amendment into your word processor and then do the same for the first 10amendments. The 14th amendment is like as much text as the entire Bill of Rights. I'm pretty sure I've done this a couple times and I can't, I don't have it offhand, but right like it, it is verbose to the point of being absurd. And Chris Caldwell has talked about this in Age of Entitlement. But basically we live in this 14th amendment state where everything is justified through this particular interpretation of the 14th amendment, right? Like liberals and conservatives are arguing over good faith or bad faith interpretations of the 14th Amendment. You know, the reason that the Constitution had like in the very, very fine print that gay dudes can get married, quote unquote married is the 14th amendment. The reason you can't regulate who lives on your street as a neighborhood is the 14th Amendment. The reason you can't prevent people from posting pornographic billboards in public is the 14th amendment. The reason you can't. The 14th amendment has basically taken over the rest of the country Constitution as like the. The lens through which everything is interpreted and everything bad that we're dealing with, whether it's sexual perverts or overreaching state or. You know, racial problems or problems between sexes. All of these come down to like this weird interpretation of the 14th amendment that like the 14th amendment demands. We'd shoot ourselves in the head on behalf of trans, disabled, lesbians in wheelchairs or like America isn't real. And you know, if you don't think that the 14th Amendment demands this interpretation, you like hate America, puppies, apple pie and all things good in the world. And Oron talks about this in, in his book. But like the 14th amendment has been so abused and so perverted that I think the only way to deal with it is just scrap the whole damn thing. And I, I don't, I'm not a lawyer and, and I'm, I wouldn't be the first person, the first person to ask of how to, how to fix it, but you just can't allow this sort of egregious misinterpretation to continue because it's been proven to be so open to abuse.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I just did this really quick. I did some quick copy and paste. I made a document. The first. The 14th amendment is one page of this PDF with a little bit of the first amendment at the bottom of the, of the first page. The Bill of Rights goes through the second page and one line on the third page. So basically the Bill of Rights is about four or five lines longer than the 14th amendment. So 10amendments are four or five lines longer than the fourteenth amendment.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. And all of it's been abused. Every single club has been abused to the point of making it just something that we, we can't depend on it anymore. It has to be scrapped.

[Pete Quinones]

Another good book, Tom woods and I think Kevin Gutzman, who killed the Constitution, shows how basically every. Goes through every, basically every. All the Bill of Rights and I think through all the amendments and shows which president and how they basically destroyed them all.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

So, yeah, great, great book.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Highly, highly recommended.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, let me see. Okay, where was I? We're composed. Okay. The architects of this constitutional revolution were less than candid about what they were doing. The beginning of this process by which American federalism was destroyed was couched in the saccharine language of justice and rights. The states cannot be trusted to protect the individual. Americans were told, only the federal leviathan can do this. So once again, in the name of protecting individual liberty, the central state set out to crush an important intermediate institution, the state governments.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, how.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah,

[Dark Enlightenment]

I got an argument many, many years ago with a prominent conservative guy who was decrying how awful the federal government was. And I pointed out to him, like, bro, without, you know, federal funds, your state government is broke. What are you gonna do?

[Pete Quinones]

Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

The state government's no at present moment are no more than pass through entities for federal funds. Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP benefits, Section 8 housing, state highway transportation funds.

[Pete Quinones]

Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Look at your state's budget. How much of that is federal funds? I guarantee you, guarantee you it's at least 30%. And that doesn't count like federal matching grants for local school districts that don't necessarily touch the federal budget or the state budget, I guarantee you at least 30% of your state budget is federal funds. So the states have effectively been erased as sovereign entities. I mean, never let you know, Never mind the 17th amendment and whatever else, but the state governments have been destroyed and they've been conquered and they're merely just pass through entities of Leviathan.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean, I've tried to tell people this as somebody who has worked in an official capacity at one point, that if your state has emissions testing, it's not because the state wants emissions testing, it's because the federal government wants emissions testing in your state and has said we will pull funds if you don't do emissions testing in your state.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right, the 55 mile an hour speed limit.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, all that. Yeah, 55 mile an hour speed limit. Insurance, car insurance, seatbelt laws, all of that. All of it. All right, where we go. Although. Although a moderately conservative Supreme Court was able to keep at bay the utter obliteration of the Federal system, the 14th Amendment has since become Washington's favorite tool for imposing its will on what remains of the states. The human fight, the human rights that it seeks to protect grow stranger and stranger every year. The 14th Amendment was invoked a few years ago, as you no doubt will recall, to vindicate the inalienable human right of an unqualified overweight woman to attend an all male military academy.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Noted that that woman is now in Congress. That was Nancy Mace and she's a disgusting, disgust, disgusting person. But that was the Citadel. And, and, and it's like this was written 30 years ago. Right now we literally have, instead of, instead of women attending the Citadel, we now have, you know, men bathing with women, people in wheelchairs demanding that they be allowed into professional sports leagues. I mean, there is literally no limit to which these people will stretch the meaning of words. And it is beyond satire.

[Pete Quinones]

The British libertarian and southern sympathizer Lord Acton saw all this coming and expressed his profound anguish to Robert e. Lee in 1866. Quote, I saw in states rights the only availing check upon the sovereign will. And secession filled me with hope, not as a destruction, but as the redemption of democracy. Therefore, I deem that you are fighting the battle for our liberty, our progress and our civilization. And I mourn for the stake that was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, look what happened. Germany is no longer sovereignty. Italy is no longer sovereign. Spain is no longer sovereign. England is no longer sovereign. They're, they're occupied by American troops. And anytime, I mean AFD is pretty moderate, but the German federal, you know, deep state intelligence agencies are say, are monitoring those people and saying. Throwing people in jail for saying that the German should be. Germany should be German. Right. My friend Mark Collette can't organize his political party, his patriotic alternative. They've been rejected by the electoral commission, like, 10 times. Right? So Lord Acton was completely correct here. You know, they saved themselves at Waterloo, but that same leviathan which won at Richmond has taken over England, France, Germany, Italy is taking over Poland. Right now. It's taking over Spain. But if America. If there was a genuine popular revolt in Germany, you know, and they were playing Alslinder Rouse as they did it, does anyone really doubt that the American troops stationed in Germany wouldn't just go out and crush those people? Do you really think the American troops who were stationed in Germany, you know, who are, you know, there because of the Cold war, which ended 35 years ago, that we're supposed to.

[Pete Quinones]

They were never. They were never there for the Cold War. I mean, that. Sure, yeah, okay. But it was to keep Germany in line. It was to keep Europe in line. It was to keep. It was to keep your Europe under Zionist control, Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, of course, you and I both know that, but, like, the ostensible reason, right, is like, oh, we got to have US Troops in Ramstown Air Base because, like, full the gap and stuff, bro. Like, the German, brave German Werbots will stop the Soviet tanks at the fold the gap, and we'll fight shoulder to shoulder with, you know, the Bundeswehr to stop the communist menace. Well, okay, well, maybe if Germans, as Germans say, you know, we don't feel like having all these people who are foreigners here who rape children and don't work and don't contribute and produce graffiti everywhere and have kids that they like, they're just destroying our country. We want them out. What is Ramstein going to be done? Like the US Air Force will be used to bomb those people in Germany? Because Lord Acton was completely correct.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, I'm gonna keep going. Just as Northern radicals sought to make the individual the fundamental political unit, so also did they attempt to make him supreme in the moral and ethical sphere. This is particularly true in the case of the abolitionists, many of whom stated frankly that if forced to choose between their private beliefs on the one hand, and the Holy Scriptures on the other, they would be compelled to jettison the Bible. What Southern theologians found especially alarming was the dubious method of argumentation which the abolitionists employed. They might have argued, to offer just one example that biblical slavery might not be analogous to modern slavery. There were certainly a number of such arguments which, if not compelling, at least were based on relevant considerations. But the abolitionists tended instead to make vague appeals to the spirit of the New Testament. And the result of this kind of reasoning, the Southern divines recognized, was the moral anarchy that ensues when, as Weaver put it, every man becomes his own professor of ethics. It is worth recalling that a good number of anti slavery feminists took the next step and compared the status of the slaves to that of the married woman. In fairness, a great many abolitionists were horrified by this line of argument, but having made their bed, they were now being forced to sleep in it. Dabney was rather amused at the spectacle of anti feminist abolitionists desperately trying to refute feminists feminist claims, when in fact the feminists were only using the abolitionist approach to biblical exegesis.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Pete, have you ever taken a road trip to rural America?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, I mean I, I live in pretty much. I live in pretty rural America.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, so I've done it a few times. And an interesting exercise for you folks out there in, in radio land. Once you get like really rural. I've had this experience more than once. Hit search on the dial, right? The rock station, pop station. Then you'll hit, you know, 9.89.7, low end of the dial, low power. And this is Bible Hour. But Pastor John, and today we're going through the Bible check, you know, Gospel of John, chapter two, verse three. And he'll preach on that for an hour. And the next thing you'll hit is 91.7, National Public Radio for upper Missoula Valley and then through the rest of the dial. And the only two radio stations you'll get in large parts of rural America are NPR and the Christian radio station for the exact same reason.

[Pete Quinones]

This is very real. You are not lying

[Dark Enlightenment]

a lot of things, but dishonest isn't one of them. The reason those two radio stations are the only stations you can get in large parts of America is that they're both religious radio stations. NPR is just religious radio for secular liberal. I'll never forget, you know, many years ago I was sitting in my coming home from church and I like to listen to the Enemy's radio and you know, Morning Edition Sunday. And they had their segment with their ethicist. And I was just thinking to myself, what the do they have an ethicist for? Like, I just got back from church, if I really want to know. What if I have an ethical problem, I'll go see my pastor. And then I realized, wait a minute, none of these people have a pastor. NPR is their religion. Like, this is just religious radio for shitlips. And. Right. So all of the, the disaster of the 19th Amendment. I mean, I've talked about it. You know, if you really want to understand how bad it was, talk to our friend, mutual friend, Charles Bedil. Right. But like, this is the same impulse. These people are just secular progressives. It is just as much a religion as I declare that the KGV is the only valentine translation of the Bible. And, and anybody who uses anything other than the King James Version is a heretic and an apostate. You must understand that this Bible is the word of God. There's no difference. And the lie is that the NPR person will say, oh, well, we're not religious. We're just telling you the news. You're just as religious as the guy who thinks that everything you ever needed to know was in the King James Bible. He's just honest about it. And you're lying.

[Pete Quinones]

Yep. I mean, it's 100%1. I mean, everything you said was true. It's out here. Yeah. And it really is. It really is. When you meet somebody who is a liberal, says they're a liberal. If you meet somebody who, if you meet a college professor, they have NPR when they start their car, NPR comes on. It's their religious station. 100% cannot argue with you at all. I'm going to keep going here. The south has never been fertile soil for religious liberalism. This is not to say that Southerners are guilty of the unforgivable sin of intolerance. As Professor Eugene Genovese reminds us, a kind of tolerance is observed in both north and south, but it is a different kind in each place. In the north, where religion is more frequently considered a matter of mere individual preference and whim, the attitude is, you worship God in your way and we'll worship him in ours. But in the south, where tolerance is not the same thing as indifference, people are more likely to say, you worship God in your way and we'll worship him in His. Unitarianism, for example, utterly failed to take root in the south. And in 1860, only 20 of the country's 664 universalist churches could be found below the Mason Dixon line. Resisting the spirit of the age, Southern Calvinists refused to adulterate the Christian faith with 18th century philosophies and refrained from turning Jesus Christ into a divine Barney the dinosaur. Many Southern observers notice that the Northern society in which Individual conscience and rationalist philosophies has replaced scripture as the generally accepted authority lacked a certain stability that was so conspicuous in the South. As Donald Davidson put it in the attack on Leviathan, While the North has been changing its apparatus of civilization every 10 years or so, the south has stood its ground at a fairly safe distance and happily remains some 40 or 50 years behind the times. The south has never been able to understand how the north, in its astonishing quest for perfection, conjunct an entire system of ideas almost overnight and start on another one which is near newer but no better than the first. That is one of the principal differences out of many real differences between the sections. And it's. I mean, how true is it? It's.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You know, my favorite thing about driving through a small town, small southern town is Pete, but is you get out of the big cities and you drive through a small town in Alabama or Mississippi, which I've done, and they'll be like, man, we gotta. We got a lot of diversity here. We got a Presbyterian church, a Baptist church and a Methodist church. Hell, we even got a Catholic church. That is my favorite thing. And right there in the middle of town, you know, for those of you who know me, right. I care very deeply about, about town planning and the way we. The structure of way which we live our lives. Right, right in the middle of town, you will have a Presbyterian church, a Baptist church and a Methodist church and maybe a Catholic church on the outskirts.

[Pete Quinones]

The Catholic church is on the outskirts in our town.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, of course it is.

[Pete Quinones]

But like.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right, that's, that's, that's diversity in the south is. You got a Presbyterian church for the Scottish people, Methodist church for the Welsh people, maybe an ankle can church, but that's diversity.

[Pete Quinones]

We even have a seventh day Adventist church here.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh my heavens.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, we are diverse.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But they're all right on Main street, ain't they?

[Pete Quinones]

They are. All of them. That's right. The Seventh Day Adventist one is right downtown, right next to the flower shop. Yeah. All right, let me go. In his own assessment, Dabney was characteristically blunt. Quote, we might safely submit the comparative soundness of southern society to this test, that it has never generated any of those loath sound isms which northern soil breeds as rankly as the slime of Egypt that spawns of frogs. While the north has her Mormons, her various sects of communists, her free lovers or spiritualists, and a multitude of corrupt visionaries whose names and crimes are not even known among us. Our soil has never proved congenial to the birth or introduction of a single one of those inventions. The south has indeed stood firmly over the years against a series of deplorable trends in politics and religion. But her adversary is tenacious. Liberalism has no logical stopping point, no points of rest. Once one traditional belief or institution has been undermined, the liberal proceeds to his next conquest. The number of practices we are expected to tolerate, for example, seems to increase by the hour. The University of Massachusetts, apparently in all seriousness, has added pedophiles to its list of protected groups under its non discrimination policy.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And that. And that's now like. Yeah, 30 years ago, the University of Massachusetts was full of crazy people and communists and, well, crazy out there, wacko leftists. And now you can't discriminate against, you know, LGBT people.

[Pete Quinones]

Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

A useful exercise that liberals always fail is you ask a conservative, in what society would you be a liberal? And they'll say, I'd be a liberal in like, czarist Russia in 1650. And you ask liberals, like, in what society would you be conservative? And they never have an answer because they're always chasing perfection on earth, which, if you read your Bible, it's not.

[Pete Quinones]

The same is true in the political arena. The revolution that began in the 1860s has proceeded to this day with a cold and relentless logic. It was a vain hope that the left would be satisfied with undermining state and local authority. Now its target is national sovereignty. The old struggle between the local in particular, on the one hand, and the abstract and universal on the other is being carried out on this new level. Two years ago, while at Harvard, I attended an address by Jack Kemp, who could hardly contain his excitement as he described the ideal international order that he saw coming rapidly to fruition, what he called a world without borders. Kemp's world without borders is the logical outcome of the process I have described, in which the smaller associations which once claimed men's allegiances having gradually and deliberately weakened. We have witnessed over the past decades, and especially since the end of the Cold War, the growth of transnational globalist elites for whom patriotic sentiments and national sovereignty are so many obstacles to be overcome in the construction of a new world order. In the course of building a centralized national government, it suffices to weaken the competing authorities of families, churches, local governments, state governments and social on. And if you are a libertarian seeking to tear those down, you are on their side.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, what's the point of going to Paris and eating McDonald's? Yeah, what's the point of visiting Florence or Rome or Berlin or Madrid and, and seeing strip malls,

[Pete Quinones]

right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, I want to go to Alabama, and I want my local barbecue pit to be operated by either like the most Scott's Irish dude you've ever seen or like a guy who's so coal black that like, like bends around him.

[Pete Quinones]

I, I, I got both of those for you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. I'll have to come hang out. Right? Right. And I want that guy to be like, like, this is where we get the wood from. And he can point to me the tree stand that his family's been using for the last 150 years to get their, their oak to smoke the wood over, right? And then, and while I'm eating his brisket, I want him to trash North Carolina barbecue as like, completely inferior, right? Mustard. Why you talk about mustard in my shop? Don't you know that white sauce is the one true way to barbecue? Don't you understand? Like, I want that because. And then I want to go to North Carolina and be like, have that guy go, Alabama, white sauce. Get out of here.

[Pete Quinones]

Right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Like, that's the point, right? This, this, this idea that, that Jack Kemp had that, right? That everywhere could just have the same, you know, well, Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, that's all the diversity we need. It's, it's both anti human and disgusting. It's, it's, it's stupid and evil.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. And just to remind everybody, Jack Kemp was a Republican. So yeah, there you are.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Paul Ryan was his greatest disciple.

[Pete Quinones]

All right. But for those who would construct a unitary global state, there remains a persistent problem of national allegiance and loyalty. A few of the methods of choice employed by those who would absorb the United States into a global regime include a policy of open immigration, which balkanizes the populace and makes resistance to central states designs less likely. The promotion of multiculturalism intended to make children ashamed of their country and its history. And trade agreements like NAFTA and gatt, which delegate legislative authority to unaccountable supranational bodies. Oh, and I'll just mention everything that we just mentioned there in those parentheses. A few of the methods of choice. Cato, the Cato Institute and Reason magazine and those like libertarian kind of thing. And Cato. The reason I bring up Cato is politicians listen to Cato. They actually use Cato. They use them because Cato is a pakato, is seen as an institution that wants freedom. So if I say, oh, wow, look at this. It says open borders. It's from that fucking guy on Twitter. He just did this. He did this. Immigration and it Shows that immigrants are net positive economically. None of this stuff, everything here they, they employ pronounced wears a, you know,

[Dark Enlightenment]

leather jacket dude, and he's a rebel, man.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, you know, and, and, you know, I know a lot of people who call themselves, like conservative libertarians would call themselves right libertarians. They would argue that open immigration is the right policy because if not, you're using the police, and that just turns everything into a police state. And you're. What, what do you like? You like the police? Are you a statist? Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

When the status is used on communists and trainees. Yes.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. When you use a state on your enemy, it's actually a good thing. Oh. But. But at some point, if you grow the power of the state, then when you lose power, they can use that power. Yeah, they're doing that right now, so shut the fuck up. That's what they're doing right now.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. Why do I have to worry about the SPLC coming after me, trying to destroy my life and dox me and find my way to live and toss and incite communists to firebomb my. My house?

[Pete Quinones]

Right. Oh,

[Dark Enlightenment]

oh, wait a second. Morons.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it's unbelievable. And, you know, and I was there at one point. I was a libertarian at one point. But wake up. I mean, I'm fully. I'm almost fully convinced that like 80% of the people who are still libertarians just do it because it's an identity. They don't have an idea. They're not a Christian, they're not a husband, they're not a father. They need an identity, and libertarian is their identity.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

And if they stop being libertarian, they'll get kicked out of the group. Kicked out of the, you know,

[Dark Enlightenment]

Pork Fest Facebook group. They'll have nothing. Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

Madeleine Albright, our new Secretary of State, made a quite revealing remark in a recent commencement address at Brandeis University. Because our country was founded on individual liberty, she claimed, and not on loyalty to family or clan. Americans are particularly suited for real global citizenship. Without these competing loyalties, Americans can be disinterested advocates for the entire human race.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Tikum olam, anybody? This is.

[Pete Quinones]

There was a time.

[Dark Enlightenment]

This is a lady who claimed that killing 500,000 kids by starving them to death in Iraq was worth.

[Pete Quinones]

Was worth it for her tribe. But when you. When we want to talk about our tribe, well, that's not allowed. We can't even put a tribe together. I'm in Scottish tribe together. If we put a tribe together, there's rico. There's RICO laws.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. I'm A Scott's Irish redneck. I literally can't advocate for my tribe because the last time we tried it, they literally named it, you know, like the KKK act after like, wait, this is just, this is just. Kel, you know, this is just Celtic self expression. What's your problem? The KKK is just, just us as a people advocating for our own interests. Why do you object to that, Madeline Albright? Right, so this is, this is again, right?

[Pete Quinones]

This is, this is a Jewish woman holocaust. The Holocaust, yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

This is a Jewish woman claiming, right, that she gets to speak for the entire human race on behalf of Americans. Disgusting.

[Pete Quinones]

There was a time, of course, when one was considered part of the lunatic fringe for suspecting that we were moving toward world government. Today, our rulers are amazingly frank. Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, for example, recently remarked that the United States and Western Europe should enter into what he called called an Articles of Confederation type relationship. Strobe Talbot looks forward to the day when nationhood as we know it will no longer exist, when we will all look to a single global authority. And who do you suppose will be staffing that? I can tell you who. I can tell you who it'll be. But you're going to call me anti Semitic, right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well. And right now the EU and NATO, right, they're just ZOG supremacy of Europe, like Thomas says. And you know, if you haven't been listening to the stuff that Thomas puts out and the stuff that Thomas and Pete put that together, you're missing out. They're basically like graduate level college courses, you know, on a podcast. And I listen to all of them. But right, like until the nations of Europe can say, we know, wish no longer wish to be under the yoke of zog, they're not free. We. And that's the only issue. You know, the Danish government did a study asking how much immigrants like contributed to the economy and they found it was like to the negative in hundreds of billions of Kroger.

[Pete Quinones]

There's no point.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No, I'm sorry, government just say like, okay, well then these people need to go home. I. I guarantee you, right. American troops would use violence against the Danish government if the Danes sent all the Turks.

[Pete Quinones]

There is no point in multiplying examples. Let it suffice to say that recent trends towards global centralization provide ample reason for concern. Equally certain is that the global status do not particularly like places like the American south. And they detest all that she stands for. Like all centralizers, they prefer a subject population of atomized individuals with no Potential particular attachments. People, in other words, who are content to eat Big Macs, vote in sham elections and watch Seinfeld. This really is dated. It would be naive to suppose, well, that's the only thing that really dates. This is the Seinfeld reference. It would be naive to suppose that the south is not also cursed with this kind of apathy. But the growth of the Southern League and the continuing popularity of Southern Partisan reminds us that many Southerners are prepared to defend their civilization. And a people that still possesses even a spark of resistance, a sense of history and tradition and attachments of the locality. And a strong Christian faith is a potential threat to the left's new order.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Can I tell you about something that changed my life?

[Pete Quinones]

That

[Dark Enlightenment]

1994, 1995 or something was in a small local bookstore in the Pacific Northwest and I came across. I was already politically conservative. It's in high school, it's kind of a nerd. So I spent all my, you know, I'd worked summers and basically all my money went to books. And I came across a copy of Southern Partisan magazine. And I think, I think the COVID was, are you tired of the government? We need to roll back the 60s. Not just the 1960s, but the 1860s. I remember looking at cover going, huh? Why? Because, of course, I'd had the standard American education and. But Tom's completely correct here, right? That this is. What has happened to us as a society is we can't even begin to discuss things in terms that were normal in 1840 and all time periods prior to that. One thing that's striking once, once you learn a little bit more, is you realize that the man from, say, 8th century France and the man from 16th century New England or no, 17th century New England could basically talk to each other, could, could converse. They were. They were agrarian, they were Christian, they would. They understood the world in the same basic terms. Those same basic terms extended from the fall of Rome all the way up until the middle 19th century. And until that point, there was a decisive break and we. This liberalism that Tom woods is talking about kind of took over. And so the vocabulary doesn't really match,

[Pete Quinones]

right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But it is precisely that questioning of why can't I read the same books as my ancestors and come and understand them in the terms that they understood the themselves that has caused the problem. The why are they so afraid of me reading a book from 1550 or from 1050 and understanding Thomas Aquinas as he understood himself? Why are they upset with me thinking the same way that someone in Alabama in 1850, understood himself. What's the problem with that? Those are my ancestors. Why shouldn't I understand what my great, great great grandfather thought of as himself when he put it on his diary? You know, what's wrong with that? Why do they hate it? And then that's a very, very revealing question.

[Pete Quinones]

I don't think we know the answer, but. Yeah, indeed. Southerners have had too many strange philosophies shoved down their throats already to go quietly in the face of this one. As former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan explained, Speaking not of southerners in particular, but of his supporters in general.

[Dark Enlightenment]

We.

[Pete Quinones]

We love the old republic. And when we hear phrases like new world order, we release the safety caches on our revolvers. Make no mistake, the persecutors of the south hate her today for the same reasons they hated her in 1860. An 1868 article in the pro south periodical the land we love summed them up quite well. Her conservatism, her love of the constitution, her attachment to the old uses of usages of society, her devotion to principles, her faith in bible truth. All these involved her in a long and bloody war with the radicalism which seeks to overthrow all that is venerable, respectable, and of good repute. So the war between the states, far from a conflict over mere material interests, was for the south a struggle against an aesthetic individualism and an unrelenting rationalism in politics and religion in favor of a Christian understanding of authority, social order, and theology itself. The intelligent left knows this, and even the incurably stupid like Carol Mosley Braun must at least sense it. For all their ignorant blather about slavery and civil rights, what truly enrages most liberals about the confederate battle flag is its message of. Of defiance. They see it in the remnants of the traditional society, determined to resist cultural and political homogen homogenization and refusing to be steamrolled by the forces of progress. I've been a northerner for my entire 24 years. But when we reflect on what was really at stake in the late unpleasantness, we can join with Alexander Stevens in observing that the cause of the south is the cause of us all.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Amen. Amen. I've been privileged by my work inside our sphere to do a couple things. And one of those things that I've been able to do is to become correspondence with Dr. Michael Hill, who's been the chief lead the south for the entirety of existence coming up on 30 years now. And I guess Tom wrote this back when. But the thing that needs to be understood is that the people who are against us, aren't against us because they have a minor disagreement or they have this slightly different interpretation of things. They're blowing up this minor disagreement to a major fight. They are atheist, individualistics, race hustlers, communists, Zionist Jews who seek to destroy not only you personally, because you're listening to this program, and merely listening to this program is enough reason for them to want to see you destroyed, but they seek to destroy it because they hate good things. And God bless Tom woods for having the courage and foresight to see all this stuff 30 years ago, 25 years ago, whenever 30 years ago when he wrote this, and God bless Michael Hill for continuing to bear the charge of a free and independent South. But that, that same civil war that you know, was brought to people in places like Chickamauga and Gettysburg and Manassas and countless other places all across the south, that's brought to your doorstep right now by the same people and the same ideas. And they want you just as dead as the boys in gray who fell at all those different places for the same reasons. They hate you. They hate you for going to church. They hate you for being married. They hate you for being straight. They hate you for being. Being white. They hate you for actually believing the Bible. They hate you for any number of reasons. And there's no getting along with them. There's no coming to some sort of reasonable motives of vending. There's no saying, this is the Methodist side of the street and that's the Presbyterian side of the street. Like you see in small Southern town. These people want to destroy everything that is good, true, and beautiful. And that's. That's why I do what I do. That's why I take the risk that I take.

[Pete Quinones]

And.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And anybody that. That wants to pretend that we can come kind of, you know, live with these people, I invite you to read this essay in its entirety and tell me where Tom was wrong. Because you can.

[Pete Quinones]

You know, I have this thing, every once in a while you get on social media where if you're talking about Il Duce or even about Adolf, you know, people will be like, they'll post a picture of Mussolini hanging upside down, or, you know, they'll tell you to follow your leader and blow your br. Brains out like Adolf. Just understand, the people who defeated them. They're their forebearers of the people who are in charge right now. The people who hung Mussolini upside down and killed them. Those are the same. They're the same group of people. Not literally, because those people are dead, but they are the forebears of the people who want to trans your kids, want to teach your kids about gay anal sex when they're in kindergarten. The same ones who basically started a war, basically got the world to fight against one country in the middle of Europe. They're the ones in charge right now. They are their ideological ancestors.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And they view you, if you, if you just want to be a dude who goes to church on Sundays and lightly bances your Baptist friends about infant baptism while you go to your Presbyterian church or your Anglican church in a small southern town. They view you as the same as the Nazis, as confederates. They, they see you in a gray uniform. Doesn't matter which side you're fighting for, right? Said many times that all my heroes wore gray. They don't see a distinction between you and the Nazis or the Confederates or George Washington or El Cid or Charles Martel or Julius Caesar. They see you all as bad and they hate you and they want you to die. They want your children to be destroyed and what your church to be destroyed. And they want the beautiful buildings that your ancestors built or you maintain to be torn down. And they hate all good things.

[Pete Quinones]

And they're proud of it. And they. It's a crusade. They're on a crusade.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's a crusade for evil. And I would strongly urge people to listen to Pete's readings of the Last Crusade by Charles Carroll because it lays it out pretty starkly as well. For many, many years. Charles Bedill and I have bands back and forth that we're, we're at the moment now where we're basically spring 1936 in Spain. Everybody knows that something's coming. You just got to pick a side, you know. So are you on the side of order, liberty, Let me quote here

[Pete Quinones]

now.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Are you on the side of. Red Republicans, atheists, Communists? Side of order, liberty, regulated freedom? Which side do you want?

[Pete Quinones]

I'm on my side, bro. I'm just on my side. I'm an individual. I'll just fight this out. I'll just fight this out from my homestead.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Good luck. Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

And those are the kind of people, people, the kind of people who say that I, I, I don't want to wait, wish bad upon anyone, but you're useless. You're less than useless because you know, you know. And you're just choosing to do everything you can to promote an ideology that this regime has been promoting since 18. Yeah, since 1860. And it's just pathetic. It's just pathetic. Take it from somebody who used to do that. Take it from someone who used to promote it. It's pathetic, and I repent of it every day. I'm embarrassed that I ever promoted that.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, one of the reasons we're friends, Pete and I don't mind if you don't mind. Like, the amount of money you've given up by not promoting this stuff is ridiculous. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk about my friend Pete here for just a second. Understand, dear listener, that I am the most toxic thought criminal out there, aside from a few buddies who co host a podcast. I'm openly racist, sexist, homo, homophobic, misogynistic. You name the bad thing, I'm it. And because Pete saw that I was right about this, that the other thing, when I reached out to him, he could have said, ew, don't touch me. Ew, you're gross. Oh, God, I'm gonna. You're gonna cost me a ton of money now. He reached out his hand in friendship and said, oh, that's interesting. You know, what have you got to say? And then I told him a couple things I had to say. That sounds right to me. And you know, I don't mind saying I think that Pete and I are good friends now. Been a couple years. But rather than protect his own income or his own prestige or his own people know, standing within the community, Pete went after the truth at the cost of everything else. And that matters above all things. Go to the place, you know, free man, beyond the wall. Slash, donate, I think support.

[Pete Quinones]

Slash support.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay, I'm sorry. Right.

[Pete Quinones]

That's all right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I just hit you up via cash app privately, so I don't know. Right. But okay. With all these forces of all these evil people who want to use the centralized state to destroy everything, and you've just heard us talk about again someone I admire very, very much, Tom woods, who has been a hero of mine for 20 years, Draw the battle lines. When Pete could have pretended to be neutral, as so many people do, and raked in not tens of thousands of dollars, but hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe even millions of dollars, he said, nope, I'm going to choose the right side. That cost him a lot of money and a lot of friends and a lot of other things. And he stood for you between your children and the people who want to turn them into homosexual trainees in wheelchairs, who want them to be atheist communists. Right, Republicans, Jacobins. And I think that you should do as I've done and support Pete for that and support the people that don't hate your children. Support the people that don't hate the possibility of you having children.

[Pete Quinones]

I appreciate that. I mean, I appreciate that. It's just, you know, I'm not, I'm not one of those people who can lie. I can't live a lie. I've never been able to live a lie. So once I learn something and once I'm presented with more information, I change my mind. I have to change my mind and I have to talk about it. I have a platform, for better or worse, I have a platform that people listen to. And when I saw that. It's nice to have hobbies, one of my hobbies is become pipes. At the OGC conference, someone who's become a good friend now gave me like 15 pipes. He's like, here, I used to work at a pipe shop and now I'm like, just in heaven trying all these different pipes and everything like that. Oh yeah, it's a great hobby. I love to smoke pipes. But it's a hobby and it's not going to change the world. It's relaxing.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Nicotine is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

[Pete Quinones]

Absolutely. But libertarianism is a hobby. That's all it is. It's not going to manifest itself.

[Dark Enlightenment]

It's no different than being really into RC cars or, or. Where you be for, you know, putting the, the chips in bottles.

[Pete Quinones]

It's a harm. Yeah, well, it's not harm. It's. It could be harmful. But the, it's just, It's a way to hang out with people. You know, it's like Comic Con. If you're like really into comic books or you. I mean, I know Comic Con is expanded weights, movies, TV shows, everything like that. You know, if you're into that kind of stuff and you, you go there and be around like minded people. But stop pretending you're going to change the world. Stop pretending you're. I mean, stop pretending you got to change the world and go change your own life first.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, one of the reasons I stopped being a libertarian is I saw that, you know, 2007, 2008, I get, I can't remember when I stumbled on Mold Bug, but it was around that time and I had read this Tom article is that I saw that there was no way for me to mandate everyone understand liberty the same way I did, without using force. And so libertarianism was pointless and without the ideas that are shown in this article. And I strongly, strongly urge everyone to, you know, just read it without our commentary and see how pressing it was. Tom woods is a genius and I Don't you know that term is overused in our time? But I legitimately believe Tom woods is a genius. He sees things others do not see and he shows people things that they otherwise would not have seen. But this article opened my eyes to

[Pete Quinones]

the fact that

[Dark Enlightenment]

it's those intermediate institutions that are the most important things in our lives. It's our circles of friends, it's our churches, it's our neighborhoods, it's our civic associations, it's our small group governments. Like if you want the government to be small, you know, your city council seat costs $10,000. Ten guys can come up with $10,000. You just go without laws for a couple years and you come up with a thousand bucks to make sure that your city council seat isn't run by a communist. It's just a house race, house primaries, like Jamal Bowman and Latimer. I think in New York City, where APAC put his thumb on the scale pretty hard, cost tens of millions of dollars. Nothing you can do is going to change that as normal human being. But you can act in that local sphere. You can support the church and the Rotary Club and the bowling league and all these intermediate institutions that stand between you and the ever hungry maw of the communist leviathan. And if you don't understand that it's more important that your local municipality be able to pass a law that says no pornographic billboards than it is for the individual right of some weirdo to own strip clubs to be able to promote his billboards, then I'm sorry, you just lost the plot. You're not capable of being free.

[Pete Quinones]

Simple as. Simple as that. It's all right. Let's get out of here. It's getting a little late for me. I know. Still a little. Yeah. Still might be a little early for

[Dark Enlightenment]

you, but just a couple things real quick.

[Pete Quinones]

Sure.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Thank you so much for entertaining this particular whim of mine, Pete. I appreciate it very much. And.

[Pete Quinones]

And that's a great article.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I want to say.

[Pete Quinones]

It's a great article. And knowing Tom. You know. Know. You know, knowing Tom and reading this, it's like. I mean, I. As soon as I read it, I'm like, yeah, that's Tom. Yeah, it's great. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

But again, I want to reiterate like Tom woods is a hero of both personally for me and just general. Read this without our commentary. I'm sure there'll be a link in the description. Read it twice and find me one thing Tom got wrong. And understand the. That our enemies, Madeline Albrights, the Bill Clinton, the George Bush's, the Karl Robes, whoever you want to name, They aren't just minorly disagreeing with you. This isn't a dispute about a 17 tax rate versus 27% tax rate. These people want you to die. They want to tear down your churches. They want your children to be killed in a useless war and the children survive that. Useless where they want to turn trans. And they want to import tens of millions of foreigners to destroy your patrimony. They want to tear down every statute that's ever been erected. They want to rename every street or every park and they, they don't do it because, oh, they have a disagreement. They do it because they're evil. They're, they're positively on Team Satan. And every time you go to battle with these folks, keep that in the back of your mind like, these folks aren't just Roberta Kaplan. Just isn't somebody that. Well, I might have minor disagreement with. Nope, she's on Team Satan. She hates everything good in the world. And then go proceed accordingly, you know, with that knowledge. Cato with David Boaz. Right. Why are all these handsome, slim young men with clean shaven faces working at Cato?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, yeah, yeah, but I mean, it's individual liberty and freedom and you know, the freedom to escape responsibility and, you know, make the world a worse place for everyone else. But as long as you're doing okay, as long as you're having your fun, then you know, what I do shouldn't, shouldn't affect you. Well, it does. It does. And it has to stop. And it's going to stop one way or another. That's what I don't think people understand it. It's gonna stop. The only question is, is are you gonna like the way it stops? Because. Yep. When things, historically, when things like, when things get like this, the way they're stopped, well, you're precious individual liberties. You're gonna mean when that happens and no one's gonna care. No one's gonna care.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I'm gonna die a moderate.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. All right, I'll, as always, I will link to your telegram chat and everything and. Yeah, until I guess we'll talk on the next thought. Crime Syndicate.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Thank you so much. I appreciate it very much. And, and you know, if you're listening, like don't, don't skip anything Pete's producing because it's all gold. Whether it's the readings or the individual shows or specials or whatever Pete's doing, please both support me materially, but also just listen because you've been lied to by Almost everyone for your entire life. And Picanones is that rarest of things. You know, Diogenes put it this way. You know, over 2,000, thousand years ago, he was trying to find an honest man.

[Pete Quinones]

And.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And I'm very proud that Pete's my friend because Pete is that honest man. So listen to everything he says. Not because he's a genius or because he's the, you know, the perfect paragon of virtue or anything of that, but because Pete is an honest man. And he will bring you people that tell you the truth as best they know how, whether that's me or Thomas 777 or Charles Deal or Jose Nino or whoever else Tom has on a guest or Pete has on as a guest. I guarantee you Pete has never had on a guest that will lie to you.

[Pete Quinones]

And then if I caught him lying, I would. I would call them out.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And that's the most precious thing you. You can have. So please, you know, support Pete, but also listen to what he has to say, because he's doing his best to tell you the truth. And there are very, very, very few people in the world today who are trying to do that. You know, I give Pete money not because he's my friend and. But because he's honest man. And this matters to me very, very much. I've risked everything to do what I do. And I'm here on this show because Pete Quinones is an honest man. So please, give it a listen. Throw Pete some support. If everyone listens to this, gave Pete five bucks a month, it would make all the difference in the world.

[Pete Quinones]

I appreciate that. Thank you. And till the next time, take care of yourself, all right? My best to you and your family.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Thank you, man.

[Pete Quinones]

I want to welcome everyone back to the Picanono Show. Dark Enlightenment returns. Seems like I talked to you a couple weeks ago, and I don't. I don't know, something happened. What's going on, man?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, the optics fairies got to it.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, for good reason. Yeah, for a reason that we can excuse.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. Well, no, that's okay.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean,

[Dark Enlightenment]

I wouldn't be here if I wasn't congenitally incapable of keeping my mouth shut. So I suppose that's good for you folks that are out there, that are entertained, but sometimes it's not a prudent thing. But I'm doing all right, and the intervening time has given me some time to reflect, and it's not quite in the news so much right now, but I know that there are a lot of, you know, pro lifers out There who are, you know, sour on Trump and where I live, it doesn't matter. You know, he's going to win by 60, 70% no matter what. So I'm, I am free to vote third party and I'll find, you know, if the Constitution Party or American Freedom Party are on the ballot, I'll vote for them. And the, the thing that people need to understand is this is all about power. And you can't build a pro life culture where abortion isn't a thing until you're willing to use power to make it happen. And that was I since, you know, if you want me to dial down, you know, our previous discussion, pro lifers, I love you. I'm one of you. I've done the whole stand in front of the abortion clinic for, with the rosary for, you know, hours on end in the snow and in this, in springtime. And I participated in 40 Days for Life in multiple states. I was with the pro Life club in college. You know, I've done the bit. I know people that, you know, were part of Operation Rescue. I wasn't quite old enough myself, but I know people that were, you know, veterans of it. I had people that lost everything. And until you're willing to use power to make it happen so that pro life becomes policy, you're going to lose. This is not, you know, Operation Rescue's great error was in thinking that, that you were, this was a civil rights movement. You know, you can link arms and stand in front of the abortion clinics and sing We Shall Overcome and justice will fall like rain and all the babies will be saved. And that's just not the truth. The truth is the Jews wanted the civil rights movement, so they got it. And the Jews want abortion, so they got it. You know, I have my differences with the Michael Jones, but when he says that, you know, this is all about, you know, a fundamental Jewish value of abortion, he's right. The people that brought us abortion, the people that brought us contraception, the people that brought us pornography are all Jewish. So when you say it's not a part of our Judeo Christian values to have abortion in this country, it's like, hold on, these are, these are antonyms. They cannot be the same thing. Judeo Christian is of a fake, made up term that doesn't really mean anything.

[Pete Quinones]

It's a post war consensus term. You're not going to find that. Yeah, like my Christian Second World War.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. What it is, is a Nuremberg regime approved term to denote that your Christianity is so toothless that you'll accept the constraints put on you by the Nuremberg regime. That's what it means.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. I was having conversations with. Conversation with my wife and a friend today, and, you know, I basically, I've gotten so frustrated with Christianity in general. I've, like, you know, you're driving me away from this, and there's a reason why. There have been long stretches in my life that I've said, stop going to church because I can't stand to be around, because we're supposed to come together as the body of Christ, and I don't want to be with these people. These people want to be martyrs, and they want to die, and they want their kids to die. They want their kids to be raped. They want their kids to be destroyed and cut up in the streets, and they somehow think that that's something good. You look at the way Christians are reacting to Springfield, Ohio, or Albertville, Alabama, and you would think that. Yeah. I mean, what I think when I see that is I think of a book that I read on my show earlier this year called Camp of the Saints. And these are people who are not compatible. I've said this before, before. As much as we, you know, as much as we say, you know, Mexicans have to go back. You can talk to a Mexican. You can. You can tell a Mexican, turn the music down and they'll listen to you. Because there's something somewhat of the same, somewhat of a sliver of a cultural.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, they're 60% Spaniard, so there's enough

[Pete Quinones]

there that you can be like, hey, but you don't know. Unless you've lived around Haitians, you don't know what the hell's going on here. And I lived in south Florida for 19 fucking years, and they're everywhere. Well, you don't go near these people. Right. Well.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And what do the Dominicans think?

[Pete Quinones]

Oh, they shoot on sight.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right. The only reason there's. The only reason there's anyone on Haiti left at all is the Dominicans know that if they just went full ham and retook their entire island and drove the Haitians into the sea, that the US Marines would show up and kill them. And the Dominican Republic's, like, chief export is baseball players. This is not. I mean. Right. This is not a, you know, particularly. They're. What did I. What did I call them on? Thought crimes? Mulatto white supremacists. Right. These are not people that. That are, you know, white. But there are dead chickens that have been sacrificed to Satan all around Hialeah, Florida. Don't go to.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, that's even another group, that's the Cubans that are into Santeria too. So, I mean, South Florida really is a cursed place. I was in South Florida last, not this past week, but the previous week. It's cursed. You get in there and you want to get out as soon as possible.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, because they've got demons everywhere. And this is the error that pro lifers make. I suppose we should rather than. We're 20 minutes into the call here, but we're specifically trying to talk about the abortion pro life, anti abortion pro life movement in the context of the current political thing. And they're just wrong about everything. If their idea of every human being is equal and that everyone is, you know, if they, if they just get baptized, they'll all be upper middle class white Christians. Is not true. There are such things as generational spirits and that there is such a thing as being too dumb to grasp the creed. And Haitians will tell you they're Catholic on Sunday morning and go to mass and then they'll go home and sacrifice a chicken or your cat to a demon. And so the people that want to pretend, oh, these people are Catholics, they're revitalizing our churches. No, they're not. They're, they're there to grift us view. They're there to steal. There's no way the pro life movement can get anywhere when you're more concerned with building a society where every baby is valued. And that means that you work really, really, really hard to help people, to help your enemies, And you don't do anything for your friends, which is what the pro life movement has done for the last 30 years. Oh, we got to help all these single moms. Why? Are they the sort of people that go to church and are conservative or are they going to be, you know, on the public fisk their entire lives? Are they going to be public charges their entire lives? Are they going to stop behaving in such a way as to be a drain on the public fisk and lower the tone of society? No. Well, the abortion movement is racist. Mariah Sanger was a racist. Well, yeah, she was. Was she wrong? That's the question you have to ask yourself. Pro life movement. Donald Trump is a very flawed man. There's a lot about him I don't like and I probably won't vote for him. But if you think that Kamala Harris, who's probably. We had multiple abortions, let's be honest, you know, isn't going to throw all of you in jail, David Del Adan the guy who proved that they're selling baby parts in California. Camalo Harris was ag when, when he was hemmed up, she tried to throw him in jail. You think that you know her? The people who are saying Kamala is brat, who do you think that's aimed at? Childless millennials, women of which there's an extremely large contingent who are fanatics, demonically fanatical, pro abortion people. You think empowering them is going to be good? You know, the bike Biden regime went to pro lifers houses with guns and woke people up at, you know, four in the morning raiding their house. Do you not remember that? Am I the only one that remembers that? You know, the safe of safe access to clinics acts or whatever it was, was where one gentleman, the pro life activist of you know, eight kids or whatever, some dude who, you know, assaulted his son. So he pushed him out of the way and all of a sudden he's, he's violating the safe act. So we got to show up at his house in the wee morning hours with you know, eight FBI agents with guns, scare his kids half to death, drag him off to off to jail, put him through a trial. He, I think he got acquitted thank God. But you know, and when, when you win, you know, Donald Trump gave us the one thing that we, that we needed. That is the federal leviathan is no longer involved in abortion, thank God. So now there's 50 different states that can all have their own policies. And the amount of pressure you would need to fix things in California or Illinois or whatever is so immense that it's never going to happen. But you can make Mississippi and Alabama and Idaho pro life. So do that and, and work. The fact that the pro life movement didn't have 50 state operations ready to go with funding and people is an indictment of the pro life movement. You got what you wanted. For 50 years you've been saying Roe v. Wade has to go. Well, it went. It was a bad law, it was stupid, it was poorly written. It was, it engendered all kinds of ridiculousness from the federal bench. I mean any of you actually read Planned Parenthood? Be Casey. It's, it's all, you know, emanations in penumbras. It's, it's, it's woo talk fit for like a horoscope reading. It was issued from the federal bench. So we got what we wanted. And then you proceeded to rack up L after l after l because you refused to deal with the reality of Americans aren't very philosophically inclined and most people don't think very hard. So they're kind of icked out by like the idea of a six month pregnant woman, woman getting an abortion. But a three month woman getting three months pregnant woman getting an abortion is like, ah, well, you know, how can you tell? And instead of saying, okay, well, we'll get a, you know, 12 week ban in place across every state and then work on everything else. We'll work on changing the culture so that people can get married and have kids and have jobs. I can tell you what, where people aren't going to have kids, where people are going to have more abortions. Silicon Alabama and Springfield, Ohio, because they're going to look at their car insurance bill that went up by 300% and they're going, I can't afford anything. You know, most people aren't, aren't ideologically Christian. They don't show up to church every Sunday no matter what. They're kind of culturally Christian and a little bit indifferent. And if you want them to live in such a way so they don't do things like murder babies, you're going to have to provide them with some incentives to actually get themselves back to church and not destroy their society. You have to get some clerics out there that say, you know what, this is a white country and white people deserve to have a country of their own. And having a constant stream of racial strangers and foreigners who aren't assimilated to our Republican way of life. Small R. Republican way of life is a net drain on us and we shouldn't have to pay for it. But no, my ancestors have been here 300 years and I'm supposed to just be like, oh, okay, someone who just got off the boat from Africa is just as much as American as me. Nonsense.

[Pete Quinones]

The one thing that I did, I did find out today is that, yeah, you know who, you know who is having a baby boom. Every Haitian woman in Springfield, Ohio.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. So 20,000 becomes, you know, 30,000 and 40,000 really quick. And. Yeah. What do you do? What do you do? You, you, you love your, you know, you love your neighbor, you forgive your enemies. There is such a thing. Augustine wrote about just war theory. And Augustine believed that the reason to go to war was to win peace. Is Springfield, Ohio at peace right now?

[Dark Enlightenment]

No, no. And you know, God forgive me for this, but, but the guy who, you know, whose son, guy who I wish my son had been killed by a six year old white man while wearing a sports cap of, you know, the, of a teenager.

[Pete Quinones]

He and his wife are teachers at the Local school.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yep.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Okay. Well, yeah, he might, he might want that, but in my opinion, he's too fat. And any, any man that would wear a baseball cap inside of a team of basketball, American ball, you know, after your son had been killed by one, like, you're not salvageable. You don't get this. You might not care about your kid dying. I care about my kids dying and I care about the kids of people I care about dying. So you don't get to make that assessment for me. I care about little old ladies. And in fact, I'm gonna state here that I care more about the kids in your community than you do. Not often I can say that, but I 100% care more about the kids in Springfield, Ohio, that went to his son's elementary school than he does because he doesn't want them to be safe. And I do. The.

[Pete Quinones]

When you think about the abortion thing, it's the whole abortion history in this country, especially since Roe, you, You're, you're not taking into account the fact that, well, it took the courts to ooverturn it, what, 50 years later, when, if every Christian in this country would have said no. I mean, I'm an elitist, I'm an elite theorist, but I understand what happens when an overwhelming majority of the population says no and says no continuously. I mean, I know for a fact, I've seen in my life, churchgoing people who go every Sunday as soon as their daughter got knocked up, taking them to the abortion clinic. Of course I've seen. Yeah. This is not me making this up. I can give you the name, but I'm not going to because, you know, why. Why would I do that? And plus, you can't. I don't want to get sued just for. Because litigious.

[Dark Enlightenment]

You. The problem is you have to deal with reality as it is, right? To me, the only reason I'm still a Christian is I believe that Jesus is the God of the copy book hangs as well as, you know, everything else that he is. And when he said I am the way the truth and life, he meant, everything that's true is somehow contained in him. Because if we can't be honest about the fact that I don't know, 50%, approximately, what is it, 46% of black women have herpes simplex, say, or whatever the sexually transmitted one is?

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, it's right at 50%. I mean, it's, it's insane, right?

[Dark Enlightenment]

So you, you can't make that population, like, sexually continent enough to not need abortion or starving to death, like, even you know, in Europe in, at the height of Christendom, women left their babies exposed because they were starving. That's, that's one of the things that monasteries did is, you know, take in foundlings and they'd adopt them and they'd become brother so and so who didn't have, who never got married and never had kids, but was nevertheless allowed to live. You know, single mothers in Christendom would give the baby up, the baby be born, you know, weaned, live in a monastery, become a, you know, brother so and so and the mother would, would take vows and become a nun. Right. And so people, those people wouldn't be. And a lot of the time, you know, babies starve to death. And this is something that's awful and I don't like it, but that's nevertheless what happened. And people would, would have kids and those kids would die. But the church's teaching on abortion doesn't like all of a sudden make people, you know, snap. Oh, we teach this. And all of a sudden people, you know, like 15 year old kids aren't going to get horny because the church says no, that's not what, that's not what. You have to deal with the reality. Right. You know, with AI a thing. Is there going to be a single job available for anyone with an IQ below I don't know, 120, 110? Where's the cutoff?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, yeah, I mean even the higher IQ libtards, what, what are they going to do?

[Dark Enlightenment]

What percentage of the New York Times is already written by chap GPT? Half a third. I mean

[Pete Quinones]

now why would they, why would they even pay somebody to do slop like that? Put in a couple of keywords. The, the people who programmed it are already shit libs. So you know, it's just going to spit out shit liberty.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah. So if the pro life movement is going to get serious, and this is advice from two guys, you're pretty sympathetic to the pro life movement. It's one of the three things we've won on in my lifetime, the other two being homeschooling and concealed carry rights. Those are the things that we acted like leftists on Pete recently reissued both like the complete series of our talk at Race Warren High School of the book. And I keep talking about this book because this book blew my mind and it's changed my life in the two years since I came on to talk about this. But the leftists always, always, always got something that they wanted and then came back for another bite at the apple over and over and over and over again until they got what they wanted. So the pro life movement, rather than say, all right, we're going to get a 12 week ban in every state, you know, on a state by state basis, we're going to work really hard for that. And then we're going to work on, you know, maybe enforcing a. All doctors have to have admittance privileges at a local hospital, you know, so to make sure that the doctors, you know, employed by p. Employed by Planned Parenthood are actually doctors. So, you know, there's things you could do to move the ball forward. Football season started. I can't help but using the metaphors, right? But no, like unless we can get a touchdown immediately, we don't want to play well while you're sitting there talking, arguing about, well, you know, what's, what's the best play, you know, we can do trick play to get. And then we'll fool everybody or then we'll go to. No, your opponents work for Satan. And they're okay. They're perfectly okay with three yards and a cloud of dust. Every day, every play they'll import tens of millions of welfare dependent people who might be against abortion for cultural reasons, but they don't care about. They don't actually care enough to, you know, vote for somebody else on religious grounds because they get free stuff. And to them the free stuff is more important than abortion. So basically every non white population in America thinks their free stuff is more important than dead babies, period. Sometimes it's 70% of them think that, sometimes it's 90% think that, sometimes it's 60%. But the vast majority of non white people think their free shit is more important than dead babies. So unless you're against immigration, period, full stop, and for massive, massive repatriation, you're never getting rid of abortion. You have a highly dependent population that is sexually incontinent and can't make a living in America on their own because they lack the requisite IQ and ability to plan for the future. You might think I'm a racist for saying that, but those are just the facts. So if you want to build a pro life America, you're going to have to make America white again. You're gonna have to make America fiscally conservative again. You're going to have to do things and use power to actually reward your friends and punish your enemies. When 17 year old girls and 17 year old boys do what 17 year old children do. In 1957 there were jobs for that. You could go, well, son, looks like you're getting married and getting a job and he got married and he got a job and it might have gotten divorced a few years later or whatever, but a lot of those folks actually just stayed married. But there's nothing to do for that 17 year old kid to do right now. Can you name a place where a 17 year old kid could get a job? I mean you'd think maybe in the metal industry, but you know, that kid just got replaced by a Haitian in Springfield, Ohio.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, you're not going to get a, not a 17 year old white kid. I mean that would. And this has been going on for a while because boomers won't retire. They, you know, and I'm really trying hard not to on boomers much anymore. But you know when you go and take jobs because it's like, oh, I need to keep working and you take the jobs that a 17 year old would normally take and you're five times larger than any generation that's ever lived. Well, teenagers aren't even gonna be able to get jobs anymore because you're taking them all so.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Well, housing costs too much, so I need a job. Why does housing cost too much? You only had two kids. Oh right. The endless wave upon wave upon wave of immigration that have forced people further and further and further out. And housing prices up and up and up and up, up. You know the number one thing that keeps young people from having kids today is Usuria's student loan debt and housing prices. You want to be really pro life? Take Harvard's endowment, pay off white kids student loans with it and if they have a kid, give him 20. You know, give them $25,000. And you watch those, you know, zoomer gals just have eight kids a piece. It's not complicated. We've set up all the incentives to be wrong. And the pro life movement believes in the Nuremberg regime. And the narrow regime exists to take people who are part of the pro life movement and politically disenfranchise them till they're dead. That's what the point of the nerve wrong regime is. Until you understand that and accept that and deal with that, you're gonna lose every single time. You can't make New York pro life, you can't make California pro life. Pretty soon you won't even be able to prove your pro life in Texas. Right, because of the invasion. What are you concrete going to do if you really believe that it's, it's a sacrifice to Moloch and it's the most evil thing that anyone's ever Done. I can make a pretty good case for that. What are you going to do in concrete steps that actually helps that stop? And I'm 100% pro lifestyle. I'm an abolitionist. I'm, I'm one of those guys, right? I've done, done my time in front of the clinic holding signs and protesting and saying the rosary. But I recognize that in order to stop this, I have to have power to do it. People who agree with me and my friends need to be in a position where they can actually make a difference. You know, Lila Rose pays herself a very generous salary off of, you know, Live Action. You look at their tax forms, right? They're pulling $2 million in all. But $150,000 got goes towards salaries. So a lot of these pro life national organizations raise money to raise money to raise money. They don't really do anything. A pretty nice grift if you could get it.

[Pete Quinones]

But Lila Rose, it's like politics. It's just another jobs program.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Oh, yeah, it is.

[Pete Quinones]

It's a jobs program for people. Yeah.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Showbiz for ugly people, as people say. But you can't have a bunch of women who are against guns and care really badly about poor George Floyd in charge of a pro life movement. I'm sorry the world is a better place without George Floyd in it. That doesn't make me happy to say doesn't. I'm not like dancing on his grave or anything like that. But if you don't think that the world is objectively a better place without George Floyd or Michael Brown or Tamir Rice or what's her name from Kentucky,

[Pete Quinones]

you know,

[Dark Enlightenment]

then you're just wrong.

[Pete Quinones]

I can't even remember, Right.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, there's so many. Right. If you can't accept that these people's interests are 100% against yours and you know, you and I bandied in back and forth in private chats, right? This, that one graph by alternative hypothesis, right? The lifetime negative impact of black people is like negative $850,000 per. Like that's how much they take out of the system, right? And Hispanics is like 650 or whatever. And white people is like positive 150,000. I can't remember. Over the lifetime. Right. You can't build a pro life society that has spare resources to take care of people and offer, you know, poor single moms who are 16 or 14 a chance to have their baby and, and get on with their life in a society that's overrun with people who aren't productive and vote for Communism. What are you going to do? I'm really mad at Donald Trump because he's not as pro life as I want him to be. He got you the one thing that actually gives you a W in the last 50 years. I mean, were you been to the March for life? Washington, D.C. is not like a, you know, cold northern city, but it could get pretty miserable in January. Were you. Were you just happier, like, going and freezing in the rain and slushy Snow of Washington, D.C. every January 20th? Happy to be a beautiful loser? Because then you were doing something. You were going to the March for Life. Okay, well, now that you've got it, what are you going to do? Well, we wanted to go to the March for Life. It's not a party. It's. It's a, a political movement. You're trying to get something out of it. What are you going to do? You know, as a Catholic, it disturbs me, but white evangelicals are the only reason we aren't living in a communist dystopia right now. So how about we build. Build a society where white evangelicals hold political power and everyone else gets to live in a decent place?

[Pete Quinones]

Well, I mean, I know white evangelicals that talk about that. And as soon as they talk about it, other white evangelicals come after them and accuse them of, well, basically just regurgitate every neuromuscular regime talking point to them and every pejorative that has been advanced in the last 80 years.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, of course. And that's, that's because these people, their regime, evangelicals, as our friends at the contramundum talk about David French, basically apostatized because he adopted a black girl and he got roasted on Twitter for it of like, bro, what are you doing? This is a status symbol for you. You thought you'd be president because you went to Iraq as a lawyer and awarded yourself a bronze star and you thought you were gonna, you know, get to beat senator or something, and it didn't work out for you, and you got made fun of viciously on Twitter, rightfully so. And so now he's like, writing from the New York Times and how everyone that he used to be is like a horrible person. It's like, well, maybe so, David, but maybe they just understand the way the world actually works better than you do. It's ridiculous to think that a population that is already addicted to drugs and pornography and isn't productive is just going to turn around and see the light on the evils of abortion on their own. Like, oh, you know, I was totally, you know, Smoking a J on my way to my, you know, wage, low wage job. But then I saw a sign that said abortion equals murder and I totally changed my mind. Doesn't work like that. I mean, it is, but what are you going to do to that with that person to make them see the light? You can remove them from power. You could say, ah, yeah, this whole democracy thing, not really working. You, you can't talk now. Or are you gonna just continue to let that person live their life and when they screw up, you know, like, and then they have their baby and they do a bad job as a parent, you're gonna go to the rescue center and give them all kinds of stuff and help them and then they're gonna do it again and again and again. And I'm not against, you know, pregnancy resource centers or anything like that. I've given time and money to both those sorts of organizations. But you have to deal with the real world. You have to be honest about what's actually happening. And if you're not capable of doing that, then politics isn't your game. I'm sorry.

[Pete Quinones]

Well, we have. Everyone just acts like they're completely defeated, like that there's nothing that they can do. And then they're like, you know, they're, they're always looking to somebody else. It's like you say, well, you know, you really have to, you really have to, you know, get together with people, you know, people of like mind and you know, oh, well, what are you doing? What about fuck you? That's what I'm doing.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's my kite. Like, maybe, maybe I don't talk about that publicly.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah, you know, you want to, you want to find out? You want to talk? Sure. Let's get face to face. Leave our phones, you know, leave our phones somewhere and go for a walk. Yeah, but, but until then, fuck you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Right?

[Pete Quinones]

You know, it's like, I mean, and we're not talking about like violence, like raising up, you know, raising up militias or anything like that. We're just talking about strategy. Why would you be, why would you be talking out loud about your strategy? The only reason you want somebody else to talk out loud about their strategy is because you're talking out loud about your strategy that will never work. The only person who ever says, well, what are you doing? Are people who are doing things that are absolutely useless. I never, I don't care. I mean, I don't care. I don't care what my former libertarian friend friends are doing and everything. If they want, if they want my advice on something they can ask, you know, I have no problem helping anyone, anyone. As long as you're respectful, as long as no problem at all, we'll bend over backwards to help you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

And I can confirm that because Pete's done the same for me. Like, this is not. But, you know, for a lot of these pro life people, and a lot of them are, you know, childless women in their 40s and 50s who, you know, were raised right, and so they have this empathy for this sort of thing. But sweetheart, ma', am, I love you. You're a wonderful person. It's really good of you to care for these babies. But until you can make the friend, enemy distinction of like, our enemies are not fit to wield power and they're going to commit abortion and you want to go jump on a grenade and save those, save our enemies, it's not going to work. It's just going to make more enemies. Okay, it pains me to say that I genuinely feel bad. You know, I really, genuinely don't like it. But it is true that until you have a regime in power that does not care what the, you know, does not care about the post Nuremberg consensus, right, you're always going to lose because anytime you try and do anything, stop the abortion holocaust you're using, you're playing on the enemy's field. They're going to beat you every single time time. Because stopping abortion, oh, you must hate black people, you're racist, you're basically Hitler. Until you can break out of that frame and say, I mean, he had some good points, had some bad points, I wouldn't have invaded Greece. Maybe he should have taken that six weeks instead of saving Mussolini, should have driven from Moscow. But, you know, overall, he was pretty effective guy. Until you can actually discuss the world as it actually is, you're gonna lose. And if you're a pro lifer in Ohio, and I think there was, there was one like, nice, sweet evangelical lady who was, you know, part of the pro life Ohio movement who, you know, over, over this October 7th, right. Like the people who run pro life Ohio, you know, were Jews and they got her fired. If you're a pro lifer in Ohio, what's happening in Springfield should horrify you. Not because little kids are getting killed or cats get eaten or whatever, but because it's entrenching demonic abortionists in power in Springfield for the next 50 years. You will lose in Springfield Ohio for 50 years if you don't get a handle on this and be honest about it. I can't show My face. Because the people who are listening to this, who are hostile, would destroy my life. And starve my kids. If they're the sort of people that would destroy people's lives over a political disagreement, what makes you think you can reason with them? You think another argument about when a baby's insoul matters to these people? It doesn't matter. Not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk in the world, but he debated some pro abortion woman. It went around on telegram and you know, she's bringing up all these super, super edge cases. What about, you know, the 10 year old or the 5 year old that got pregnant and I hope you know, what about these? And it was not a factor. You know, Charlie Kirk sitting there. Well, what about facts and logic, you know, and you know he got the better of her in debate, right? But this is not a woman who's reachable with reason. You just have to take away her franchise, pat her on the head and put her at the kids table. Until you're willing to do that pro life movement, you're going to lose. Okay? Until you went to say, look, ladies, if you want to vote, you got to have at least two kids. You know, who'd be in favor of that? And Coulter. And Coulter doesn't think women should vote. But if you want women to vote, you have to have two kids within marriage. You want public assistance, you got to be married. You want government housing, you got to be married. Because right now all the people who think abortion is great treat you, you pro lifers, your. They treat the men in your life's wallet like a pizza that's been given to them for free that they get to cut up and they fight over what's in your wallet and they take it from you and you're expected to just hand you over your wallet every April 15th or quarterly if you're self employed. Employed who? Boy, that's a fun one, isn't it, Pete? Writing, writing both sides of Social Security for yourself and knowing you're not going to get any. Yeah, it's about the driest left I've ever heard from you. Ah. So, all right. If you really want to build a pro life culture in the United States of America, you're gonna have to get power and use it to boost the people that are pro life. You have to change the culture. You have to destroy the local public school that's just a cat lady factory. You're gonna have to get it so that you're gonna have to get your clergyman to a point where they don't advocate civilizational suicide every Sunday in the pulpit. We need a new welcome our new brothers and sisters from Congo or Guatemala or Haiti. You're going to have to do something that requires both the long game and pragmatic realism about the where we're at actually at. You're gonna have to get rid of every Jew in any position of any kind of power whatsoever. You're gonna have to stop posting Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro or Nat Hentoff or any of these people as like pro lifers that you agree with. They don't. Abortion, as Michael Jones has pointed out, is a fundamental Jewish value. Because Talmudic Judaism is just Satanism. That's all it is. And anybody that wants to sit here, well, what about, no, they're not your friends. You're going to have to listen to people like Andrew Torba and Andrew Risker and Steven Wolf and Cory Mer and, you know, real solid Christians who are dealing with the world as it actually

[Pete Quinones]

is,

[Dark Enlightenment]

or you're going to lose. And it pains me to be as brutal about this sort of thing as I am, but I got 20 years of doing this and, or more actually.

[Pete Quinones]

And

[Dark Enlightenment]

you're. When you constantly seed the ground, seed the frame to the enemy and you allow the enemy to set the rules, you lose. That's the truth. When, you know, all pro lifers will say, well, you know, abortion was illegal in all 13 colonies and was illegal in the United States, you know, everywhere up until such and such time. You know, who was in charge then? White Christians. That's who was in charge. That's who wrote those laws. Those are the people who filled that society. You're not going to get those pro life laws back until you make those people in charge again. Maybe not the majority population or the majority population, but they have to be the ones in power,

[Pete Quinones]

You know, and you, you keep saying that, you know, you have to want power. That doesn't mean that you have to run for office. That just means that you have to, you may have to organize to have the right people run for office, to have your friends run for office. You know, I, I've said recently that I would, you know, I want to have like my friends in the, you know, in the Trump administration. And it's not because we agree on everything politically. It's because we're friends.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I'll give you an example.

[Pete Quinones]

We share values.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I'll give you a perfect example. If one of our guys in your county is the county health inspector or started county public health department, And every second Tuesday of the Month. They go by the local abortion clinic and they inspect the place top to bottom. How long do you think that place is going to remain open when they get a $300 fine for the slightest, you know, a pen? Being out of this, out of place for the wrong spot. If one of our guys is in charge of the county health department and, oh, hey, look at that. We're not vaccinating everybody in this county. It's not. Not a public health matter. The cold is not an urgent public health. But I'll tell you what is an ur public health matter. Making sure everybody who's at this clinic is properly licensed. Oh, you're not properly licensed. Doctor, Abortionist. So and so. Oh, well, you don't have admitting privileges at the local hospital. I'm sorry, you can't practice here. You know, Kermit Gosnell is a pretty awful horror story for those of you who might remember it. He kept. Literally kept babies in pieces in jars and stuff. Was a black doctor in Philadelphia, not qualified remotely to be a physician. But that's all of these people. I mean, he was at a perturbably egregious case. But do you think, like, real good, competent physicians, like, sign up to murder babies? Who does that? Evil people do that. Wicked people do that. Incompetent people do that. You're not gonna get, you know, cream of the crop from Harvard Medical School or. John Hopkins or any. Any place like that to be abortionists. So just make sure that they're. They're, you know, inspected on a regular basis. Make sure that all the nurses have their. Have their license requirements met. Make sure that the people who actually have children can support them. Make sure the economy is structured so that, you know, mom can stay home and dads can go to work. Make it so that housing doesn't cost 10 times what it did. You know, Peter and I have talked about housing a lot. Maybe if people lived in coherent neighborhoods again and their neighbors were people that they went to church with and were of a similar ethnic background and they'd known each other for all their lives, maybe they could, you know, mom could go to work for a couple and. And the kids could go next door to people that were basically family and they wouldn't need to have,

[Pete Quinones]

you know,

[Dark Enlightenment]

go to daycare with people that they don't know. So pro life is a totality thing. It's not just a. Oh, we're just against abortion. You have to have affordable family formation. You have to have housing that works for families. You have to have Jobs and an economy that works for families. You have to have food that families can afford. I guarantee you that. There are families that are desperate that have gotten abortions in the last two years because of food prices. Think about that. In America, people have been driven to murder babies because food got so expensive. I just spent $200 on groceries today. I was late to this recording for stuff that should have cost me $80 three years ago. You think that's not a pro life issue? How is having more people come here who are completely dependent on taxpayer funds, drive up rents because they're getting thousands of dollars from the government, get free food, get free health care, don't have to have car insurance, don't get their houses inspected so that there's only, you know, one person per bedroom, but there's 20 people living in a three bedroom house. How can a normal person compete with that? How much money would you have in your pocket, Pete, if I paid your rent, your grocery bill, your medical costs and for your transportation?

[Pete Quinones]

Life would be good, that's for sure.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I mean, would you have, you'd have no major expenses left. Yeah, yeah. So if you want to build a pro life regime in America, you're going to have to do things like, I don't know, pay for the young white people of America, the young white people of Ohio, of Alabama, of wherever. Give them that largess instead of foreigners who hate you and will always, always, always vote against your interests. You know, the Trump campaign is, oh, we're going to get a majority of black males. Bull. Absolutely. You might get more, but you're not going to get the majority. Because the entire Democratic Party since 1965 or whatever, since the 60s has been based off of giving them free stuff. Well, they shouldn't want free stuff. If you read Thomas Sowell, please. Most black people in the inner city are illiterate. They don't care what Thomas Sola has to say. They don't care what Walter Williams has to say. Oh, well, if you listen to Alan Keys natural law argument against Barack Obama about gay marriage, he completely destroys him. Well, yeah, he did. It was embarrassing. But do you think that the black people of Chicago even know who Alan Keys is? Or that they're capable of listening to an argument between two professors? They don't care. They're going to have to have pro life policies imposed on them. They're on what, generation four, 5 of total welfare dependence. They've never lived outside of government housing. They've never been to a doctor that they paid for. They've Never bought their own groceries. And you're gonna, you're gonna make this person into an independent yeoman Republican who's pro life overnight by making an argument. Are you crazy? I understand that abortion is a horrifying subject and it's awful to think about and it's viscerally off putting. I understand all of that, but emotion goes to the left because, because you can make the argument what about the poor babies? But they can also always make an argument what about the poor child who's

[Pete Quinones]

been,

[Dark Enlightenment]

you know, is, is 8 years old and was raped by her father and is pregnant with triplets and doesn't speak English from Guatemala and she came here from a boat from Africa like you could. They can always outdo you in that department. The left is based off emotion. Ocean, you're always going to lose. And I keep repeating this because I

[Pete Quinones]

want

[Dark Enlightenment]

listeners to this program probably know the score already. But when you're arguing with pro life people in your life keep hammering this. You will always lose if you don't deal with reality. And that's all I'm asking you to do. As my friend boys race says, all I'm asking is that you engage with reality. And the reality is unless and until you acknowledge that our society is structurally against, set up against the family and in particular against who white people having families. And until you rectify that, you're going to lose. So there's things you could do government policy wise to to fix these. But you need to be in power first before you do it. And until you willing to actually exercise that power tell you're willing to put your differences aside and actually accomplish things, all you're doing is wasting your time and money. You know, there, there are multiple people I've talked to on different podcasts who should be both vastly higher paid than they are, but should be running institutions. And they're not because they were foolish enough to get on a podcast with me and I'm radioactive because I'm, you know, a racist, fascist, homophobe, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You want to be a pro life, put keynote as in charge of Cato Institute, then then you know, we'll see some real pro life policies happen. Put, you know, put Andrew Isker in a position to run a seminary. Put people who actually understand the way the world works in positions of power and influence. You know, put James, put James Edwards in church of the Southern Baptist Convention. Then you'll see some real change. Until you're willing to actually do it all you're Doing is whining. And if that's what you want to do, fine. But you don't get to tell me what to do. And until you want to engage with reality, you're just talking. And those of us who actually want to accomplish something have a perfect right to tell you to be quiet.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. I mean, the fact that more people aren't talking about how Springfield is basically a city that unless they just basically bring in bus after bus after bus after bus and take these people to. I mean, moving 20,000 people isn't easy, but you can do it if you want to, unless you're willing to get them out of there. That city is basically now Port au Prince in the Middle east, in the. In the Midwest.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

I mean, that's. That's it. That. That town is gone. That town is now a Haitian town. And, you know, If you want to go down to South Florida and talk to, like, the Cubans and the blacks, the American blacks, you know what they. You know, both of those people have in common down there. Both of those groups have in common down there. They just hate Haitians. They look at Haitians and they're like, what are they doing here? I mean, who. Who allowed them to come in? And I don't want to make this all about one group, but it is. I mean, you're. You're literally talking about the funniest thing that I saw this week. Not funny, but Scott Adams. Scott Adams was upset because somebody contacted him and told him that the. You know, he's like, why are you lying to me and telling me the average IQ in Haiti is 62? And he's like. And he, you know, he does this Scott Adams thing. He goes. So I went to debunked them, and I said, there's no way that they have an IQ of 70. It has to be somewhere in a higher range. And he goes, and I found out that. Or he said it has to be something different than like, 70. And he's like, I found out. I was right. It was 62.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's barely.

[Pete Quinones]

What do you do with that? Yeah, what do you do with that? I mean, they're not. The. The interim police chief of Silicaga, who. You can imagine what he looks like. Somebody said he looks like a retired rapper has said he's not going to. He's not going to arrest any of these people because he can't communicate with them. He said in any of his. Police who do are going to be written up. And you think this isn't a plan. You think this. Didn't you think this happened on per. On by accident?

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah.

[Pete Quinones]

These people hate you.

[Dark Enlightenment]

They. They took tens of thousands of millions of your dollars extracted at the point of a. And they brought these people here to destroy you and kill you, and even when you give them money. Speaking of South Florida, Tyreek Hill, star wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins, right? He gets out of a game, like, last Sunday, two Sundays ago, maybe he gets pulled over by bike cops because he was doing 120 in a 40 zone. And the bike cops, God bless him, with these tough Latino guys, and they're. Am I. Roll down your window. Because this window super tenant. No. Hey, man, roll down your window. Do we drive? I need to be able to see you, man. And you can watch the tape up on YouTube or wherever, but this is a dude who was driving, like, a Lamborghini or some. Some ridiculous, like, half a million dollar car, right? He's been given fame and fortune and everything that goes with it to go with the Queen song, right? And he and a co worker of his who got out of the car to almost start a fight with the cops over him getting arrested. Calais Campbell, one of his teammates, Instead of being like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have been doing 120 in a 40 phone or even a 6. Like, 120. There's no robot in America where you're not going at least 40 miles an hour over the speed limit, you know, one and a half times the 80 miles an hour, which is probably the highest speed limit in America. There's no place in America where that isn't a massive ticket, a take your license away sort of ticket. And this guy proceeds to act a complete fool, act belligerent, and then get himself cuffed and arrested. Okay? I think his. His house burned down because he didn't have, you know, I'm pretty sure it's. Tyreek Hill's house had burned down. Pete, could you look that up? Because he didn't have proper smoke detectors. Right? Of course. Right? The ceiling. BIRD CHIRPS this man has been given everything. Is he polite? Is he grateful? She's like, man, I should be. You know, thank God for all these white people who love to watch football. They give me everything. I should be. I should be really, really grateful to them. No, he's a complete dirtbag. He's an entitled piece of crap. And instead of wanting to live in a society where stuff like that doesn't happen, pro lifers will say, well, but abortion disproportionately affects black people. We've Got to stop it. It's racist. So what? Let's be honest with ourselves and say, yeah, you know what? The black American population, not exactly known for their ability to live with,

[Pete Quinones]

And

[Dark Enlightenment]

that's caused untold amounts of abortion in this country. Not just because the abortions that they get, but the nice middle class couple that can only afford two kids to send a private school because they live near Atlanta and they can't send their kids to Atlanta public schools because they die. And so that 35 year old mom of two who works, you know, her birth control failed and she got an abortion because her and her husband can't afford another kid. And little 17 year old Janie,

[Pete Quinones]

right,

[Dark Enlightenment]

who sexually assaulted by people that shouldn't have been around her in the first place, her mom and dad quietly take her to the abortion clinic because they know what color the baby's gonna be and it's not the one that they wanted for their grandkid. I'm not saying this is good. I'm saying it's what's happened. And until pro lifers can deal with the realities in front of their face and be honest, that abortion is here. I was on a couple weeks ago with great Tim Kelly, and he put it this way. Immodesty in dress and feminism, which is a transgender movement, led to pornography, which led to abortion, or which led to contraception, which led to abortion, which led to transgenderism. You have to reject all of it and you have to be honest enough with yourself to go. It's going to take a long time to reverse all these ill effects. It's going to take years of hard patient work of rebuilding a culture that is actually capable of being pro life. Our culture right now is not capable of being pro life because we live in a degenerate society. And until you're willing to do the hard work that it's gonna. It's gonna take to change that, every time you give in to the regime framing, you make it that much harder to change course. You make it impossible to change course. You know, I mean, when Donald Trump says, if Kamala Harris wins, Israel will be destroyed. Okay, well, you just gave me a good reason to vote for Kamala. But if. If you're not willing to actually deal with reality, you're going to lose.

[Pete Quinones]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I gotta button it up for tonight, man.

[Dark Enlightenment]

I'm sorry with a delay, but I mean, am I wrong? Pretty quiet. This has pretty much just been me ranting all night.

[Pete Quinones]

No, I mean, it's. I mean, I'm. I'm at my wits end, it's like you. People really need to start understanding now that they can't wait until they have to start planning for this stuff now to happen in their area. Especially if they live in a really nice area. Especially if they live in a rural nice area. I mean 20,000 Haitians in the span of 18 months, your town is gone.

[Dark Enlightenment]

That's two divisions. That's like the 101st, you know,

[Pete Quinones]

and it's, and one of the reasons I keep bringing that up and I brought that up is because it's the same thing as the abortion thing. It's like you're just not going to do anything about it. You're not, you're just not. If you're not willing to do it about that, what are you supposed. I mean, people are people who have to leave like the only place their families ever lived. I mean look at like, like C.J. engel, like a sixth generation Californian and Andrew Isker, like a sixth generation Minnesotan. They're, they're like leaving. Why? It's just, it's been taken over idly. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I mean, well, we're not going to tell say anything about what from where and to where. I mean, I won't because. Yeah, but offsec, but.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, yeah. And you had to leave. You were from the greatest city on the place of the planet. Yeah. Why, why, why couldn't you, you know, and we know circumstances otherwise. But why couldn't you be peeped from Queens who took your, like, why weren't you able to get married from a, to a girl down the block who you know, in all your life, you went to the same parish, you went to the same high school that was, you know, you know that you, the girl next door, you get married, you live in an apartment two blocks from where your folks lived, you went to the same church.

[Pete Quinones]

There's 2200 murders a year.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yeah, because 2200 murders a year. That's right. And until the people who in the pro life movement accept the truth about the jq, the reality of race, the reality of women not being fit to hold any kind of political power, and as long as they accept framing of the enemy, they will continue to lose continuously. There's no way to win if you're playing by the enemy's rules. If you want a world where every child is welcomed, then you're going to have to work to disempower the Jews, repatriate all the immigrants and remove the franchise from women, period. And that's. You can like it or not, but that's. That's what's going on. And until you're willing to be honest about that, babies will continue to get slaughtered by the tens of millions. You know, the Nuremberg regime supplied Stalin with 10,000 aircraft from Montana that flew all the way through Canada, all the way through Alaska, and all the way like halfway around the world. It was like 10,000 miles and enough material for 40 divisions from around. Through the caucuses. Stalin himself says that they would have lost without all the stuff that the Americans gave these people. No Stalin, no Mao.

[Pete Quinones]

No Mao.

[Dark Enlightenment]

No Ho Chi Minh. No Pol Pot. No one child program in China that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions. No Nuremberg. No, no, no J. Dominated America. No New Deal regime that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions. You know, this is. This is a serious, serious thing where the people in charge effectively worship Satan and sacrifice babies to Moloch for political power. Until you're willing to treat it like that and not an excuse to virtue signal you're going to lose. And you have to reward your friends and be indifferent to your enemies.

[Pete Quinones]

If.

[Dark Enlightenment]

If New York wants to go to Satan. It pains me to say this. It's a beautiful city. I wish I gotten to see it when it was still something. But that's not my problem. I can't care about that. I can care about my patch of dirt. And the pro life movement has to care about their people and only their people, or they'll lose. Make sure every kid in your church can have three kids and then get back to me about the poor, benighted Haitian immigrants.

[Pete Quinones]

I don't see why people think that they shouldn't be taking care of their own when they look around and every other group is taking care of their own. Why? Just because somebody told you that? What? That white people are evil? Why do you believe them? Why do you care? Why do you care what they have to say?

[Dark Enlightenment]

The same people that have sacrificed 60 million American babies to Satan tell you you're evil for caring about your people as opposed to the people that sacrifice babies to Satan? Huh? Like what? Kamala Harris is a prostitute who murders babies. She tries to people who stop that, tries to throw them in jail. She sells baby parts. Why do you care what anybody who's on her side of things thinks about anything at all? Oh, they call you racist. So what? 46% of black women have herpes. You think you're going to get them to stop behaving in an abominable way just because you told them that it was wrong. Haitian immigrants are driving with. They're killing old people by a little old lady who was just putting her trash out by driving, just driving all over the road drunk at 10am

[Pete Quinones]

you

[Dark Enlightenment]

think you're going to breach that person with an argument? They have an IQ of 67. I'm not saying we should be pro, you know, Margaret Sanger was a ghoul. She was an evil person. She was a servant of the devil. Right. But when she says, oh, I want to kill all the stupid people,

[Pete Quinones]

you

[Dark Enlightenment]

can't be like, well, I, I, we need to be very pro, pro the stupid people. Because that's the moral thing to do. Like, no, you need to be pro good people. And eventually they'll find a way to take care of the stupid people. But you can't let you know who.

[Pete Quinones]

Do you know who the wealthiest person in Haiti is?

[Dark Enlightenment]

I believe it's the one billionaire on the island who's Jewish. Remember his name?

[Pete Quinones]

Gilbert. Gilbert Bijio. A Sephardic Jew from Aleppo in what is now Syria.

[Dark Enlightenment]

Yep. Just like Heim Sabin. No, no, Heimsab is Jewish. The guy who owns New York Times is Carlos Slim. Carlos Slim is a Lebanese is,

[Pete Quinones]

I

[Dark Enlightenment]

don't think he's Jewish, but he's, he's of Syrian or Lebanese extraction. The entire elite in those countries is low trust, you know, gold chain race. And because they're not like, there's no. How are you going to find a guy to run the DMV with an IQ of 67? That's the average half or dumber than that.

[Pete Quinones]

All right, let's wrap. I gotta get. Good night, I guess, some sleep. Yeah, no, thank you, man. I'll make sure to, I'll make sure to link to your telegram chats and everything and. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I mean, I know that we, we bounced around a little bit, but I hope people understand that all of these things are related, you know, and I brought up Augustine because Augustine said that Christians, Christians can go to war when there's. With the intention to make peace, with the intention to bring order. I mean, and I'm not asking people to be violent. Politics is war by other means. But if you look around and you think that we have peace and we have calm and we have order, then there's something wrong with you. And there's something equally wrong with you. If you call yourself a Christian and you think that somehow you martyring yourself and your kids and basically martyring, making the decision to martyr every other Christian in this country. Because, oh, we're not supposed to do anything we lose down here with all our treasures stored up in heaven. Well, again, one of the reasons why I didn't. There have been long stretches in my life where I just avoided church. Not because I didn't. Not because I didn't believe in the doctrine, not because I didn't. But because I just didn't want to be around people. Just didn't want to be around these people. Pathetic. I mean, they're really, really pathetic. That's it. That's what I got.