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thought Crime Syndicate is back and we haven't even talked about anything a subject that we want to talk about. But let's. Let's do this. Since Jose has been making the rounds on pretty much every show because he's, you know, the Venezuela expert. Jose, what do you what's on your mind
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really? Just how chaotic things are getting these days and how the political class really isn't doing much to push back against the post World War II order on both foreign policy fronts and also domestic fronts. Whether it's fully restricting immigration and actually getting rid of like the civil rights revolution. Rolling that back completely and I just see a reversion to neoconservative tropes or just Reaganite tropes and just a completely distracted government. And also where I'm definitely looking with interest in what's happening in Minneapolis as well. So you have a Jewish mayor in Jacob Fry that is just calling for people to abolish any form of immigration enforcement. So we're just seeing a breakdown. And, and that's one thing I'm more concerned with is just the fact that there's no real serious action from D.C. or whatever to implement meaningful reforms, to fully roll back some of like the stuff, the legislation and other policies that have hurt the US for decades, if not a century or so. And that's what I'm mostly kind of talking about. And obviously like the whole Venezuela thing, I just gave my perspective on that and how. I just think that really if you want to actually have any form of legitimate security and a restrained foreign policy, you have to end the, invade the world, invite the world consensus that has governed us since the end of World War II and that require, requires a thorough overthrow of the ruling class. Because frankly these people, they have very different priorities from the people that have elected P.E. people like Donald Trump in office and other politicians that claim to be populists. So that's what one theme I'm trying to convey here.
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Do you think that they're with Jacob Fry doing what he's doing and then you know, there's a bunch of right wing Jews that are calling for border control, quote, unquote, right wing Jews. I mean these are left wing, left wing, anti Trumpers. You know, just a couple years ago, do you think there is like a split in, in Judah right now that between some on the left and some on the right stipulating that even if they don't, even if they, they aren't conspiring together, when one does, when one side does something, it always seems to work out for the other side. Strange how that happens.
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Yeah, I think what is happening? Well, I mean if you look at David from for example, he's actually historically said stuff like hey Democrats, you guys need to stop pushing all this open border stuff so radically or else you're just gonna create a backlash. But there's always a bait and switch because it's like, it's like the civil rights revolution that once that whole process was initiated after let's say like eight to 10 years and the black golems start flirting with pro Palestine stuff, they'll be like, the organized Jewry will be like, okay, we need to pump the brakes on this and just consolidate our gains because we have golems that could potentially turn against us. And I mean in the case with, with organized faction of organized jewelry, that's Talking about border control. In many respects they're kind of doing that for tactical reasons because when you just have like an insanely open border for more than like multiple decades, you're going to provoke a backlash. And the best way to consolidate those gains after you've let 30 to 50 million illegal aliens in is to at least concede shutting down the border. But, but then start talking about legal migration opening up the airways to so called skilled migrants, whether it's like South Asian petites or striver class West African migrants like those types. And that's what I think is happening because there's always, there's always a poison pill with what they're proposing. Like they, they may concede ground on saying okay, we'll shut down the border and stop border crossers, but then they'll then open up a new front to replace elites or aspiring elites with new golems. Because if you look at for example a lot of young professionals under the age of 40, whether they're right wing or left wing, they are starting to question jewelry especially this is very pronounced, especially on the Democrat, liberal or progressive side where any pundit above, below the age of 40 is going to be at least like pro Palestine. So now that they have to just start directly electing Jewish representatives, you see this especially at the state level with governors that have like disproportionate Jewish representation and even senators where they can't even trust their golems anymore. And on the right, it's also starting to happen too where the amount of Judeo skepticism has risen meteorically since October 7th. So the organized jewelry is engaging in multiple rear guard actions across the political spectrum because there is a torrential wave of anti Semitism, Judeo skepticism, anti Zionism forming.
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Anybody else got anything?
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Oh, it's just richly deserved. I mean, what's her name? The absolute psychopath from New York state used to be the UN ambassador Stepney,
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Elise Stephan, Stephanie, she stepped down from
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the governor's office or the governor's race because a Jews running right. Like there is no right. Everyone knows that. And you, you wrote about it recently, Pete, like everyone knows that we live in effectively what is a pedalocracy from Assad. What other conclusion can you come to?
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Yeah, you know, it's, it's rather difficult when you see, you know, Jose's work on, you know, just exactly how the Venezuelan opt was probably the people who are going to be most, most benefit from it are going to be, you know what, what Jose loves to call pan Judah the then you look Here. And it's like, okay, we need re migration like yesterday.
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And it's a fix everything switch the kids have been meaning about.
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Yeah, you, you look at ICE and you're like, okay, this isn't what's going to do it. What's going to do it is basically arresting, arresting mayors, arresting governors, arresting judges and taking away the protections from these people so that they re migrate on their own. You know, I hate to say it this way, that they don't feel safe being here. And once you, you see that and you're like, okay, that would be a great thing. It's like, okay, and then we're still occupied, right?
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Well, yeah, just. Just two things real quick, and then I'll shut up and let Charles and Jose talk more. Tyler Oliveira, God bless him, did that. I mean, all four of us knew about Curious Joel, right, in New York. And there's all kinds of other Hasid, you know, hatcheries all over America where these people don't work and they, and they don't contribute anything. And of course, the Somali fraud is a thing. To be a citizen or republic from all the way back in ancient India where it was all white, to, you know, modern times, you know, to beginning of America, to be a citizen of the republic, you had to basically fulfill three or four criteria. You had to be a. You had to be of this, you know, you had to be a member of the tribe. You had to like the same blood as everyone else. Occasionally you could let in a foreigner, but it was exceptional. You had to obey the law, you had to pay taxes, and you had to serve the state in some fashion, whether that was military or something else. Okay, all of these people, whether the Somalis, Haitians, sidic Jews,
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lots of
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different types of Latinos, they don't meet these criteria. They need to have their citizen strip, shipped, stripped out. And if you're a public charge, you need to go home. And the thing to do isn't these, you know, four show ICE operations. The thing to do is to tax remittances at 90%, to remove any welfare from these people, to throw the people who employ them in jail. All of which is against the law. Now we have public charge laws. We have a remittance tax on the books. It's just like 1% right now or something. And it's already legal to employ legal aliens. Once you start doing this, they'd all go home on their own. Oh, I guess the free ride's over. We'll go home. We didn't like it here anyway. It's too cold, it's too white. These people complain when we play reggaeton at three in the morning as ours is our natural wand, you know, I mean like they don't like it here. That's why they trade and turn everywhere they are into where they're from.
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Yes, well, and as you said, the, the, and I'll use your words, and I, and I understand we need to use them carefully. You do need to make them feel unsafe. And that's not necessarily meaning threaten them with violence, but it is cutting out all their support. Remember, one of the most punishing things you can do to a man imprisoned is put him in solitary confinement. That will drive people crazy. And you're not doing him any physical violence. I know I'm speaking very technically here. That is still immiserating somebody. It is still causing one to suffer. But that's the whole point. And as somebody who has worked in the field for close to a decade, just tried to get back in, succeeded in getting back in and jumped out in record time because I saw what an absolute dumpster fire it is. The American public would be shocked, appalled and up in arms if they witnessed what I did just this week. But I'll pass over that. I'll allied over that for the moment. And I'll say the drum that I have been banging for decades, since I first came up with it in 1998, is, remember, most of the world views America not as a country but as a strip mall. They come here, get what they want and send stuff home and then eventually go home to retire and they use all that money to live like kings wherever they're from. I'm not sure if I said this when you and me were speaking, Pete, on one broadcast, one of your live broadcasts, we were talking about immigration. But one of the biggest times for self induced re migration in the United States, the biggest time of the year is around Christmas. And why is that? It's because all the South Americans go home to see family. And when, when's the highest rate of illegal immigration again? Right after Christmas. So they can come back here and understand most of these people's money, when they earn it, a significant portion of it goes back to foreign countries. That's the whole point. So as Dee said, all you have to do is take laws that are already on the books and enforce them. Maybe maybe turn the dial up on them a little bit, maybe. But I would say one admittedly is it would have to be cranked up to 11, but. But it's still not changing any law in and of itself. Just if just a, an application of it would be just the remittances. Sure. Tax them up to 90%. You'll, you would be shocked at how many people would leave just because of that. Because, again, this is a strip mall. You don't have to escort these people out. You just have to make them unable to afford the goods in it, they'll leave themselves. There's nothing interesting about a strip mall except what you can get from it. And if you can't get anything from it, there's no need to go there. And you'll find these steps in and of themselves will start to have the problem solve itself. Now, again, there will come other necessities, I'll say, I will absolutely say that. But this, the easy start is simply use what we have. For example, where are all our sedition laws? Why aren't they being utilized? All these mayors talking about. I find it bitterly ironic and humorously ironic that a lot of these people, that in any other contest context, if we were discussing the Civil War, they would call the Confederates traitors, betrayers, disloyal, and they got what they deserved by getting stomped out by the north for wanting to separate, for wanting to do their own thing, and for denying federal troops. Yet in, in, in the last 10 days alone, they've, they themselves have said, forgo any kind of federal government intervention. Get rid of them. We don't want them here. They don't belong here. Fight them. Fight them. It's, I mean, I know no one here is surprised by their hypocrisy. No one is. And then I'm not saying, see, look, look, see, they're hypocrites. That's not my point. My point is to simply say that they know they're guilty of it. They just know no one will punish them. And we need to punish them. And I'm not even saying punish them extra legally. I'm saying use the power that we have. And the irony is, and I'll close here and let somebody else take the floor. The irony is the real reason Trump is as popular as he is is he's the first president in my lifetime to actually use 1/100th of the power that he was given to change things for the better. Now, we can say that he didn't do enough. We can say that he's doing it for Israel. We can put a million qualifiers on it, but that does not change the fact that he is the first one that had, has at least dipped his toe in the usage of executive power. For the benefit of a significant portion of the, of the native stock of this country, the European stock of this country.
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So it's just talking about it, about talking about doing it, not even actually doing it, but just talking about it is what has these people freaked out and ready to commit treason and ready to commit insurrection. Because the last person to actually try and do anything, you know, they impeached him and he resigned. And that was. That was half a century ago. So for half a century, Donald Trump was the only person to actually even talk about using the powers of the federal government for the actual citizens of this country. And that was enough. Just talking about it, not doing it, not cracking down, not, you know, killing people in the street and whatever all these other people are talking about. Just talking about, like, actually doing his job. And these people are freaked out. Right?
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And there's a reason for that. D. And we both know what that reason is. The reason is because once that spigot turns on, the flow is only going to get faster and harder. It's not going to turn off. Because once people start realizing, wait a minute, we can just do things to use the colloquialism, then. And not only that, once you start convincing the civic nationalists, yes, they're a plague, I know. But as I'm very fond of quoting, our list of allies grows thin once we get the civic nationalists to realize, wait a minute, these are already existing laws, we can just use them.
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We.
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These are all already illegal, as I pointed out on Twitter not long ago, maybe a month ago, tops, which I guess is a long time for the Internet. But not long ago, to me, I pointed out, and people were misunderstanding my point, but I pointed out illegal immigration is not just hopping over a fence. Did you lie on a form? You're an illegal immigrant. Did a company lie for you? You're an illegal immigrant. Did you fake a relationship for somebody to come in here, that person is an illegal immigrant. We're not talking about just jumping a fence. If we actually just used the law where it says, if you're lying on this form, then you are denied the benefit. I. I promise you, there wouldn't be more than 2,000 people of Indian, of Indian nationality here. There wouldn't even be 2,000 in the whole country because either some company lied about, lied for them, some family member lied for them, or some combination thereof lied for them. Just that alone.
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They lied about their college,
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College, college degrees. They're exactly the lied about their educational credentials. People forget that. Again, this is a drum. I've been banging for a long time. Illegal immigration is not just somebody swam across the border, somebody jumped a fence. Illegal immigration is way bigger than that. You would be amazed amazed how many people you could legally just say oh we investigated your form and found out this company didn't need you. Boop. Your citizenship's gone, your i551's gone, your H1B is gone. Etc, all of it, it's gone. Get on the plane. Go
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it. I think the will is there and I think the will is there amongst the people. But it just seems like at every
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turn
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the administration is not willing to cross the Rubicon and do what needs to be done. The remittances thing is the easiest one. I mean they, they could do that by. He could do that by executive order tomorrow. The but you know, but the problem is, is crossing the Rubicon and also being somebody who worries about your own legacy. And you know there, there really is the, the opinion amongst a lot of people and I'm pretty sure I share it. I mean sometimes I'll be like what's up foos?
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Yeah, well, and they only found the
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guy because he's got face tattoos.
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This is, they're, they're.
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I saw a video of a guy
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who just driving an suv. He's apparently worked for the press. He got surrounded by a bunch of shit libs and they basically bullied him like, well, you need to rent another car. You need to drive something else. You can't drive an SUV around here. Look at all the, this is, this is pathological empathy to the point of like suicide. And we can't live with these people. And the fact that the average person understands this and then the government doesn't. And I'll go one step further, Pete. It's not just Tim Walls or Jacob Frey or Kathy Hochul or. What's the new governor of Virginia, whatever, like Spamberger. Like, it's, it's, it's Hot Wheels. It's, it's, it's Greg Abbott, it's Ron DeSantis. They're just as complicit as these other guys because they're not doing their job. You know, if, if you took the Constitution's claim seriously about providing a federal form of government, then you wouldn't let illegal immigrants vote in your state and you would complain about non citizens voting and you would, and you would do something about auditing your Medicaid books or your public schools and making sure that taxpayer dollars did not go to people who were there illegally. And yet I guarantee you, without even, without even looking, I guarantee you an audit of the state of Texas could find $5 billion being spent on illegal immigrants in Texas. Easily.
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Oh, absolutely. No doubt.
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And not even like anchor babies who are born here. Citizens and technically, no, like, I guarantee you there. Easily.
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Well, Texas, Texas is going to be, is going to be Canada. Texas is going to be Ontario. Because they're just. Indians are just flocking in.
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Yeah, right.
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And you know, they're, they're putting up their, you know, their demon, their statues,
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their demonic temple, you know. Yeah, Temple of Doom. Well, and Just because this is my wheelhouse and we kind of talked about a little bit. Pete, if you had a guess, what would you say, like, the worst two types of environment to like, operate any kind of construction project are?
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Environment. I mean, you saw weather, like, climate, like. Yeah, yeah, climate. Well, I mean, I would, I would say cold, freezing snow, and probably like desert conditions.
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Well, you're right on the first one, you're wrong on the second. And then the two worst are the Arctic and subarctic and Antarctic. And the worst, second worst is the jungle. And for lots of reasons that I won't get into here, I have experience operating in both those. I've been working in and around the mining and energy sectors for a long, long time. In and around. And all this tough talk about, oh, we're going to take over Greenland. Like, you think the Danes don't like money? You think they like just having these 50,000, 60,000 Eskimos that do nothing but soak up welfare and molest their sisters? You think like, they, the Danes, right, they couldn't put together a mine? They couldn't. Of course they could. It's just really hard. Everything runs off diesel. Diesel turns to jelly when it's negative 50 outside. It's, you know, metal fatigues. You know, people can only be out for a short amount of time. Everyone's got to be bundled up like the Michelin man. You show even a flash of skin.
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Yes.
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Freezes off. It's fucking awful. And you've, you live in the south, I don't need to tell you, right? Imagine Houston, but like worse. And if you're in Venezuela, everything rusts in like no time at all. Everything rots. That the, the, you know, moss just, it just makes everything very, very difficult. Food spoils. It's, it's. Without ac, it's just impossible. And, you know, oh, Venezuela is a failing state. Well, the only place that they don't have a functioning electrical grid. Well, because you sanctioned them. And Siemens, the only guy that actually, the only people that actually make the transformers that a modern electrical grid requires, you said that they couldn't buy any. So, yeah, they have a failing electrical grid. They couldn't afford maintenance on their oil infrastructure for the last 10 years because Jews sanctioned them. Because, you know, Hugo Chavez said some mildly critical things about Jews after they killed a bunch of kids. And Jose can speak to that more than I can. I mean, strongly urge everyone to follow his substack and listen to all the stuff, different stuff he's been talking about because he's Been burning up the airwaves lately. But, you know, we're doing all this stuff, you know, I mean, I guess the one side benefit when Trump destroys NATO. But we're not sovereign over Baltimore. We're not sovereign over Minneapolis. We're not sovereign over Texas. Houston, Texas. We're not sovereign over New York City. Why do we fucking care if. Nuke Greenland is Danish? Who fucking cares? It's insane. Baltimore's what, 40 minutes down the road from Washington, D.C. and it's not an American city.
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Well, I mean, that's exactly what I've been saying ever since the Venezuela thing. I've gotten. People say, oh, this. The only reason I'm like, well, why the are we doing with Venezuela is because I used to be a libertarian. The. The libertarian priors or what is. Yeah, when I was a libertarian, I was saying, yeah, why the are we doing this for zog? That's exactly what I was saying, retards.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Another one, you know, another one is like, oh, yeah, I just love brown people. Really. I deport every. I would deport everyone. You know, I'm a little darker than most, but not really. I mean, anyone who's ever met me has been like, oh, but they're all gone. Venezuelans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Indians, Filipinos. They're all gone in a heartbeat. How the fuck does that. How the fuck does Venezuela. What does Venezuela have anything to do with that? I need to cheerlead Venezuela to prove that I. That I care more about this country, that I care as much about this country as somebody else. How about you go fuck yourself? Yeah. Yeah.
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I think it's funny that people say that about you yet. How many times have we said on this program we should be the darkest people in your neighborhood? Like, how many times have we. How many times have we made that joke? And how many times have I said, and I think you and Dave laughed and agreed with it. It's like, okay, we'll take 60 days of you peeking out your blinds at us to make sure that we're not. Not up to no good. We'll take 60 days of you gonna, you know, slowly driving by the house to make sure we're keeping the area clean. Okay, you got 60 days. We'll deal with it.
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It.
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And then after that, we're wanting, you know, it's okay. Just leave us be. We're just like you. But how many times have we made that joke? 2, 3. Easily on this program.
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Easily.
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Dude, I've had my pops are. But, yeah, I've had my Pal, I've had my politics attacked. I've had my character attacked. I've had my Catholicism attacked. All this, all of it. Because, because, you know, I don't want Paul Singer, you know, to have billions more than he has already. I want to strip him of every fucking dollar he has and send him to the fucking desert.
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Well, he should be in Leavenworth. He destroyed Sydney Nebraska. I think it was Sydney Nebraska.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Tucker did a story about it. Like, this is a man who is malicious. He hates Americans, he promotes sodomy. He's. He uses his ill gotten wealth to undermine other nations. He's, he's, you know, if, if, if doing something bad in another country, it's grounds to like round people up and take all their. Why can't Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping be like, Paul Singer is a bad person who does bad things and so we're gonna like arrest him, right? Like if that's the standard we're setting,
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he's the real sovereign.
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Yeah, well, him and Jonathan Greenblatt at the adl, right? Like if, you know, conspiracy against free speech. Jonathan William Brad, like admitted to it. Like, this is not. And to your one quick point, Pete, you know, there is under Catholic just war theory. And I'll be talking to dear Nad about this next week on my show. No intervention we've undergone in the entire 21st century passes the test. The Afghanistan one kind of sort of did at the beginning. But you have to have a defined goal of like, what's the goal of this war? Is it just like show up and just like randomly kill people? Like that's not just. There is no, you know, okay, so under Catholic principles, like none of these
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wars are
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acceptable under you know, libertarian or under, you know, constitutional. Like this isn't like, where's Congress? Did they pass a lot? Did they declare war? No. Okay, so we're just going to randomly kill a bunch of people because Jews want us to. Like, under no circumstance can I think of a single good reason other than like Team America, World Police type of like America. Yeah. That this is any kind of good idea. I'm like, that was supposed to be a satire, guys.
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Like, and then, and then they serious policy proposal. And now that we're go. And now that we're going to war, like every war is not only for Jews, but going war like Jews, we're going to war like Jews. Then it's like, oh well, you know, you got to cheer on, cheer on when your enemy, you know, make fun of your enemy right down to right. Right down to. And then dance on their grave. That's not what white men do. That's not what Europeans do. That's what Jews do. You're acting like a Zionist. You're acting like, you know, the Jews that made T shirts for, you know, shooting pregnant. Pregnant women in Gaza. That's never been what white people.
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What, What?
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The way white Europeans celebrated their war victories. They went home and they. They celebrated it, but they also respected their enemies. And it's hard to respect your enemies when your enemies are not deserving of respect. But still, you have to have a fucking higher standard, you know, and just declaring anyone your enemy. I mean, like, literally, like, I had people arguing with me, saying, oh, you like commies now? Are we still fighting the Cold War? Isn't this what Thomas says? He goes. The military. It doesn't even really work anymore because it's still fighting the Cold War. Are we still. Are people still fighting the Cold War? Is. Was Maduro. Is Maduro a commie? Why isn't the Communist Party of Venezuela, like, come 100% behind him? How come they think he's a piece of shit? I don't like Maduro. I don't really. I shouldn't even know he exists in the first place. But they have resources. Jews want resources. Jews control our government. Those resources have to be ours. Quote, unquote, ours. And I'm.
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I'm.
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I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to, rah, rah, look at our foreign policy and everything, while everything's turning to here. No motherfuckers, until you get shit fixed here.
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You can't. This is.
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This is the whole thing that I've always said. I say you people are like, well, what? Our country needs to be taken back. What can I do? First thing you got to do is fix your house. You can't expect to go out into your neighborhood and fix your neighborhood if there's something wrong with it until your house is fixed. You got to get your shit in order before you can start looking outwards. And as a country, sure, we fucked up, outsourced shit to China, you know, basically allowed the Jews to declare war on Russia, who should be our natural ally. Yeah, there's a lot of problems there, but those are problems that should be handled diplomatically. The military should be happening here. Yeah, sorry to say.
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B
Absolutely.
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No, No, I agree. 100. As a matter of fact, that's what I've been talking with. And I. I won't drop names or anything, but that's what I've Been talking with federal officers and military guys. It's one conversation that keeps coming up repeatedly. And I'm going to draw on these point as well. You know, leaning on, I can't speak personally of it, but leaning on governors not doing their jobs and state officials not doing their jobs. A lot of guys and law enforcement, federal and local and the military, they're all lately very much thinking about their oath, specifically federal, where it says protecting the United States from enemies foreign and domestic. Foreign and domestic. I took that oath years ago, I took it again recently and I take it very, very seriously. And a lot of our guys are like, that's my oath, that's the oath I swore and that's the oath I want to uphold. And we've got plenty of domestic enemies. Why aren't they being officially identified? Why aren't we being mobilized to get them? Because again, I'll go back to the point I raised earlier. I am not saying do anything extrajudiciously. That is not what I am saying. I'm not calling for that on this public program. I am saying we already take that oath. There is already a definition of domestic enemies. Okay, so let's go to war with them. Let's do it. I, I agree with you Pete. That's exactly where our, our arms, our forces should be deployed against domestic enemies.
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D
I agree with one of the points that were that was raised before about how you don't really need to do some intricate restructuring of the government or implement a novel system to fix these problems because ultimately we already have the laws and the books, the bureaucracy and the mechanisms in place to get things right. It's the issue is the one of who is actually the sovereign. And under the one sovereign principle we, what we see is it's organized Jewry, it's a hostile sovereign that has very different types of interests in mind. And sometimes they may use clever marketing and other strategies to enlist the resource, the resources and assistance of gentiles, but they ultimately are going to a different destination from us. And that's the big challenge is, is to effectively topple this sovereign that is a domestic threat for sure. And that's how you set things right. Because you don't need. Some of these problems aren't that complicated to begin with. And there's no need to reinvent the wheel, especially when there are plenty of like anti terror legislation on the books, anti racketeering and all that to bust up these NGO networks and other bad actors that promote mass migration, never ending wars. So cultural degeneracy and other Social maladies. So, yep, we. You have to get rid of these hostile actors effectively.
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Well, aren't all these transnational drug gangs already designated terrorists like Trend and the Mexican cartels?
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And
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that they're all already designated. And so every. Every dude with a face tattoo that says, I am part of a transnational gang of killers. Why can't you just like, oh, hey, he looks like a terrorist.
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I believe some of them are. I mean, my. My. I will confess outright. My knowledge is. Is woefully, Woefully ancient. But I know groups like Los Zetos and others were.
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B
Yes, well, and. And how hard would it be to just classify them as such and then round them up?
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C
Oh, well, that would be easy. I mean, that they're committing terrorism.
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They're.
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They're killing people for political reasons in. In Mexico. They're killing people for political reasons in the United States. It's not. Not difficult. Just. Right.
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C
But. And again, all you. That's.
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You're. We're.
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C
Once again, d. You and me were saying very similar things, if not the same, which is. That's my whole point.
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Just.
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All we have to do and thank you, Jose, for the support. Like, all we have to do is use what we have on the books. All we have to do is just get somebody to have the courage to say, X is now classified as a terrorist group. X is now classified as a domestic enemy. Y is now classified as a domestic enemy. That's it.
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And then you just start moving it. I know it sounds like I'm oversimplifying things, but I'm really not. I'm really not. Look at what they do again. Look at what. Look at what the FBI has been doing to citizens. Look at what they did in January 6th.
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These are.
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These aren't even people that were officially classified as anything. They were simply arrested and thrown in. And did anybody get punished for that? No, nobody got punished for that. And I Mean, why exactly? Because they just used the powers they had. They just found the loopholes they had. Our enemies are willing to do it. We don't even have to cheat, just play by the same rules. Say, okay, we found a way to make you prosecutable. We found a way to imprison you. We're going to do it. That's it. That's all there is to it. But as you said, Pete, maybe Trump just wants to be liked, and that's a problem. I can understand the human compulsion to wanting to be liked. I want to be liked. I want all of your listeners to like me. But that's not a reality. That's not going to happen. And I'm certainly not going to sacrifice my principles to be liked. Do I want them all to like me?
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Sure.
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But am I going to change myself to be liked? No. And I mean. And I'm a nobody. Who am I? If I wielded power, that would be even worse. To be. Want to be liked. To change myself, to change my course of action, to change my.
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I gotta disagree with you, Charles. I don't want these people to like me. Okay?
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Right, right.
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Listeners. I didn't say, I didn't say everybody. I said I wanted Pete's listeners.
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But, but these people. Yeah, the people complaining about the, the freedom of, of, you know, Nicole Good and she deserves. No, Nicole good was bad, actually. And it's a positive, it is a positive good that she got got because she was an enemy of all decent people, of white people, of civilization, of America, of. Pick your thing. This woman was an enemy of it.
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And the, and the true.
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And the.
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You still, you still, you still don't have to celebrate your enemy's deaths. That's what Jews do.
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I'm not, I'm not going to like, dance on her grave and celebrate. I'm just not going to be upset when bad people have been. Bad things happen to be.
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Right, Exactly.
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And the people who want to complain about, well, you're a bootlicker now and you're going to grow up. Grow up. This is not a game where like, oh, Pete beat me at chess and so I got to buy him a beer. This is, do we have a country or not? Is there a civilization or not? Are we on the verge of nuclear war? Now? Maybe it's hysterical, maybe it's crazy, maybe it's just some old boomer nut job, but Tucker Carlson interviewed Sergei Karadenov, who is apparently some sort of political. In Russia, maybe Jewish, I don't know, talking about how if The Ukraine war doesn't end. Russia is going to nuke Germany and England. That involves Article 5. That means worldwide global thermonuclear war. And as US children of the 80s will remember, the only way to win is not play. Okay? Like this is not fucking a game, okay? Vladimir Putin, bad guy killer. Say whatever you want about him. He's not a fool and he's serious. You do not get appointed KGB of Colonel of, of the KGB in East Germany in 1987 by being a nice guy. You get there by being a serious, serious dude. And his country was in the dumps in 1999 and 2000 and he brought it back to where it's one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Moscow is the biggest, nicest white city in the world. And if this Sergey guy who was on Tucker and I strongly urge everyone to listen to Tucker's monologue. It was fantastic about why we. I think it was deeply, deeply wise what Tucker had to say. But if that's what actual Russians are thinking, they have the world's biggest nuclear stockpile. They have a country that spans like 10 time zones. They have all three natural resources in the world. Not some of them, all of them. Why are we letting a bunch of resentful shtetl Jews who are ass mad about a pogrom from 1648. Drag us into a war that might destroy the whole world if you don't understand what time it is? And that there's no living with people who are more upset about Vladimir Putin defending actual Russians in the Donbass than their neighbors getting killed by drunk Mexicans. And that they care more about the rights of Somalis to steal taxpayered money. Then little English girls who get raped by foreigners. There is no living with these people. And they cannot have power and they cannot vote and they cannot have any responsibility for anything in the public. They can't be in government, they can't serve on juries, they can't be teachers. They can't be in the media. They have to be rooted out root and branch and rusticated. As Charles Heywood says, they need to be picking turnips in Nebraska.
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Yeah, but that's, I mean, what you're missing is that we took out a Latin American dictator. So, you know, what do you, what do you, what do you ask Matt about? I mean like literally, I mean, people. It's like I, I said this and privately people are telling me I'm right. These people have like, you know, especially the ones who are like, weren't even of Age for. For Trump, number one. They're like, they've never had a win in their lives politically, and they see this as a win and it's an ex. And they, like, treated as an extension of them. Like, like somehow they won something. No, no. The occupied government, the occupiers won something. Tell me what you won.
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D
Well, Paul Seeger's bank account won something.
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Yeah. Yeah, well, we're safer. Safer from what? Cocaine came through. Cocaine came through. That's the main thing. That came through Venezuela. That may have been facilitated by Venezuela. Okay, you know where most of that cocaine is going to? New York City, Washington D.C. los Angeles, all the shitload places. Do you think they're going to do without their cocaine? All they did was switch distributors. But, yay, you got your win, you got gay. I mean, I've seen this. I'm so old. I've seen this movie over and over again. It's like, you know, it's like now, oh, well, Iran. We'll have regime change in Iran. And then, you know, we'll have.
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What?
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What? I've heard this before, dude. There are people, like, celebrating this who were, like, completely against Bush's wars. Oh, no, but this is different. This is in our hemisphere with an occupied government. Right. These people think that, like, I mean, has it the, quote, unquote, deep state, the administrative state, has it been dismantled? No, no. This is something.
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Just ask Charles. It's 10 times worse than it was in 2001.
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I mean, this is ridiculous. There are people like, you know, who, they. They believe that because they know somebody who works in the administration or they have people that are talking to people in the administration that the government works for them. I talk to people in the administration. I am not at all, at all thinking that. Oh, you know, because I know some. I know a couple of people in high places that the government's working for. The government's working for me. Are you fucking. How retarded do you have to be to believe that you may know somebody who's going up to Washington D.C. and talking to people that you're in charge, that they're working for you?
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That's.
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You're a child if you believe that. And it's childish thinking and you need to grow up because this is what I'm hearing. Don't disrespect Trump. He's the commander in chief.
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Okay? And if you're 25. Do you know.
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Do you know the thing. Do you know the things that I've. Does that mean I have to take back you know, like calling Obama the N word for eight years because he was the commander in chief to grow the up, leave your house, kiss a girl.
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Well, Pete, I don't take political advice from. From pacifists, and I don't take social advice from girls from a dude who's never talked a girl out of her underwear. So for most people, this would. This would probably just like. If you haven't meet that basic standard of competence, I'm just not gonna.
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Right?
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You know, this is not a man that is loyal, is a great friend. Now, everything's a business transaction with this guy, so you treat him like an enemy. You constantly say, that was nice, now give me more. Okay. Second, I sympathize very deeply with, you know, you zoomer kids who were born in the late 90s or early 2000s, and you've never known a functioning, sane society. I mean, I'm old, so I remember one. But if you want that back, if you, you know, want 80s vibes back and, you know, pit vipers and America and whatever, the first thing you need to do isn't support Donald Trump.
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It's
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support the Americans that are getting screwed by Donald Trump. Yeah, gas is a little bit cheaper. Great.
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C
Woo.
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B
It was. It was only minorly bank breaking when I had to fill up my truck. There's not going to be a solution out of Washington because Obama and then Biden after him purged the entire Federal Service of anybody who was remotely competent or had the right ideas. And Trump did nothing about it. Trump should have fired everybody above, Colonel, Colonel and above should have all just been fired. But he didn't. He left those people in. And what did they do? Nothing. Because they're on the team. Every. Every federal agency is full of people. We had Someone in the Secret Service betray the Vice President? For Christ's sakes.
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Fucking A. An immigrant.
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Yeah.
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They have immigrants protecting the Vice President and you're, and you're trusting the plan? The fuck is wrong with you?
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Well, who do you think runs uscis? The Immigration Naturalization Service. Now who do you think runs that? That's all foreign born.
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Border Patrol.
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Almost all foreign born.
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Yeah. Border Patrol's full of Mexicans.
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Yeah, they get that. They, they are, they are the. It is the fox guarding the hen house.
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B
Well, and the judges, right, we live in a, we live in a, live in a Jewish oligarchy, but to the extent that we have a formal government structure, it's all a criterchy. And of the. I was talking with someone who's in a position to know. I'll just say that something like at least 20% of our federal inmates are illegal immigrants that have committed like violent, you know, like murder and other violent crimes.
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Right?
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So you're a foreigner who commits a violent felony, American soil, you should just be executed. But the judges who would hear that case, they are at least 50% foreigners and women, very often foreign women. You think that you, you think that Judge Laquanda Johnson from, from Jamaica, you think she's gonna like render a sane version or is she going to be like, well, he needs a pat on the head and maybe he needs to be told how to be American. And in America we don't like rape, kill and eat and not necessarily in that order. You know, innocent 10 year old kids. I'll never forget it. I was talking with Charles a couple months ago or like last year there was a, the governor of Oklahoma, whatever his name is, he's like the worst Republican in, the worst Republican governor.
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C
Are you talking about Stitt?
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Right?
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He, he committed the sentence of a guy who committed like literally a cannibal murderer and then committed the sentence. Black guy, that guy got out and then like committed murder again or something like that. It was some, some awful, awful thing. I can't remember exactly the details, but it was stuck in my memory because it was so, so terrible. Okay, this is an ostensible Republican. Trump's bragging about all the First Step act. Oh, look at all these criminals that
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let out of jail.
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How many people have been killed in America? It's not none by all the criminals that Donald Trump let out because he wanted negroes to vote for him. And did they vote for him? No, But he's always chasing them. You know, as Aaron McAdare put it recently, where's the stuff that the evangelical white Christians who vote for Donald Trump get, like they're the. They're the only demographic that's loyal to him. Why? What do they get? What. What. What's. What's. What's in it for them?
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Where's the patronage? If you want my support? Where's the patronage?
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Yeah.
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Because the other side. The other side, they get patronage.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Why isn't Pete running a think tank
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for a million.
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D
No matter who you vote for, you get Jonathan Greenblatt's Genda.
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100% correct. Thank you, Jose, for putting it much more succinctly than I could.
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D
Just an addendum to talk the woods rule.
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It's a good one. And apparently laying out the reality that was just laid out last year and the reason why people voted for Trump is blackpilling. When you put it on the line and say, you know, I voted for Trump because I thought Trump would be better than. Than Kamala, pretty much end of story. That's it. Figured I had a better chance of no one breaking down my door with Trump than. Than with Kamala. Questionable nowadays, considering, you know, who the. The faction that won out, that was. That was warring for his attention. But all the things, you know, like, oh, there are no Epstein files. Oh, it's the Democrats made it up. It's a Democrat hoax. Oh, there are Epstein files. I mean, Daryl Cooper said something once that I. Maybe the smartest thing he ever said. If. When Jeopardy. If. When Jeffrey Epstein died in his cell, Americans didn't March on Washington, D.C. and do whatever needed to be done to end this government. No one's coming to save you because that should have told you, Americans are not in charge of the government. And you can just look at this administration and be like, I don't think Americans are in charge of this government. There's some paperwork. Americans, there's some fake dual loyalty. But we also know dual loyalty just means one loyalty. They're only, as Ben Shapiro said, his loyalty to this country ends when they stop being loyal. When this country stops being loyal to Israel. So what's changed? Sure, some great things have been done. Some band aids have been, you know, put in place. Where's the change? Where's the lasting change coming from? Where is the hope of lasting change coming from? They sold out the. The whole industry, the economics of this country to China. Then they financialized the country to the point where, really, if you want to get rich in this country, you better be able to know how to play the market, because it's not like you're, it's not like you're going to get a, you're, you're going to get a job unless you're probably, you know, going to be a CEO of something that's going to give you the kind of, the kind of wealth that was promised, you know, that was the old promise of this country a long time ago. Where do you think this is? Where do you think this is coming from? Where do you think, where are the answers going to come from? If you can't, if you can't stop people from breaking into an ICE vehicle, put them down. If you can't put those people down. If you can't remove a sitting judge who probably wasn't even born in this country so that you can get your agenda through. And you're gonna, you know, and then you're just gonna, your lackeys are gonna tell me no, you just gotta wait. You just gotta be patient. You gotta be patient. They're coming. They're coming. 10,000 more ICE officers. 10,000. This isn't gonna be solved by ICE. Fuck you fucking fuckwits.
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Sea terms and conditions 21 this isn't solved by ice. This is solved strangely, by decree. Do you know how many. If there's 50 million people here, 50 million illegals here or 100 million people. You really think that they're just going to, that that's going to be rounding them up? No. You have to make it so that they cannot survive here and that they leave you cut off everything.
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Yes, exactly.
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Cut off everything. Minneapolis. There should not be a federal dollar, an entitlement dollar, anything going into Minneapolis. And if there are heritage Americans there who are good people, set up something. Set up something through the churches, set up something through. However you have to do it and make sure that it's only heritage Americans that are getting taken care of. Starve them the out.
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One out of six children in the Charlotte, North Carolina school district.
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C
Yep.
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Is a foreigner.
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Yep. It's one out of four. Nationally. It's one out of four kids sitting in a public school. Is either. Is either for. Is either for. They're, they're an immigrant or their parents were an immigrant. 1 out of 4 Yep. Nationally, how many of those were, you
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know, white Venezuelans or white Cubans fleeing communism or white South Africans or white Europeans making, you know, coming to this. This country and assimilating. I've seen video. Lauren Whiskey posted it of, like, some Australian guy who came to America. Somebody like, America's awesome. You know, like, I have freedom here and I can have guns and I can free speech. Like, yeah, more guys like that.
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Right.
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You know, if Mark Collette or Thomas Sowell came to from the UK or Australia seeking political asylum, I'd be like, sure, let them in, because they're genuinely under political repression. But we both. Everyone here knows and everyone listening and everyone in Washington and all the people who hear this, you know, the vast, vast, vast majority of the people that have come to this country in the last half century are not good citizens who just want a better life and contribute. They're here as free riders who want to take our stuff because to them, this is the land of milk and honey.
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It's a strip mall, as I said. Yes, it's a strip mall. That's exactly correct. Do you know how many people of European descent I gave a green card or citizenship to in my eight years with US ins? Did I tell you this already? D. Pete, did I tell you how many that was? Because I counted. I can't remember. Five. Five in eight years. That's less than one a year. And I did 14 interviews a day. A day.
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So tens of thousands of people. And you did five.
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Yep.
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Of European descent. Yes. And I can tell you why every one of them did it. I can remember. There was not one that was different. They were all older white guys that were in more often than not the shipping business, like literal sailors, captains, stuff like that. And the only reason they were here, they didn't even particularly like America. They were here because their wives were American, and they wanted to finally do it for their wives, and their wives wanted to stay here and come home because they were getting older, they wanted to be around their families. So they did it for that. Most of them didn't even particularly want to be here because they saw the writing on the wall. What was they here for them? What was it here for white people and Nothing. Not for them. They weren't stupid men. They. They saw it. 5. In my whole career, I mean.
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I mean, what do you. How do you fix that? How do you fix that outside of, you know, drastic, Drastic measures?
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Yeah. Has anybody had the misfortune of being in a. In an emergency room recently? I was hurt on the Job not long ago, a little over.
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I live in a small town. I. What I was. But I live. I live in a very small town, and I was the only person in the emergency room.
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Well, I'm sorry you were in the emergency room, but I'm glad you got very quick service. I live in a. Not as small a town as you, but also a small town. But there was me and one other person, and I could tell you 100 easily that the other person wasn't illegal because didn't speak a lick of English. They had to get a translator. She didn't have any identification. She was here with her baby. And I was like, so even though there's only two people in here, that's 50% of this room is illegals. So all we have to do is extrapolate from there.
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Well, and moreover, I mean, everything everyone said tonight is correct. But like, Donald Trump is working to get rid of Thomas Massie. He already got rid of Marjorie Taylor Greene. Where is. Even on fiscal grounds, Thomas Massie can put on his black and yellow bull tie and be like, well, it's not fiscally sustainable and we need to cut the deficit and so blow. Like, I don't care how. Right. But Thomas Massie generally comes to the correct conclusions just because he's an autistic libertarian about the economy of the federal budget. Whatever. I don't care. Why isn't Donald Trump going after Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and all the other Republican squishes who are trying to ruin his life? You think that these people don't have campaign finance violations? You think he couldn't find something on these people and throw them in prison? Of course he could. They're all crooks. They all fuck kids. Pardon my language. But that's how they get there. And Donald Trump is. Is there and safe because he's probably in on it. I mean, I love you guys. I genuinely do, but would any of you stay friends with me if you found out that I was buddies with somebody like Jeffrey Epstein? Or would you be like, get the. Away from me. I don't want anything to do with you for the rest of my life? Which is the correct and proper response.
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I mean, there'd have to be a huge mea culpa and, you know, an explanation. But, I mean, it's, you know, you, you even have people now who, you know, I remember when, when all that was happening, when they vomiting Iran and you're like, hey, what about the Epstein files? And people, quote, unquote, right wingers. Oh, what you just want to. You want to see child porn? Is that what you want? I mean, these. I really hate the term cope because I think it's something that you reserve for your enemies. But the, it's getting clearer and clearer that there are a lot of people who say they're on our side, who are our enemies because their cope and they're the way they're coping with the fact that nothing is basically being done to solve the domestic problem. And then they're attacking you when you bring that up. I mean, that's what enemies do. Maybe it's just me. I don't know, maybe that's the way I see people. I mean, I've had a lot of really fucking bad opinions in my life. I've had a lot of really bad opinions since I started this podcast. And I'm doing everything. I've, I've tried to apologize for them over and over again. I'm doing everything I can to try to bring people with this podcast like Reality Base, Reality based reporting or whatever we're doing here, Commentary, history, you know, real history, true history of what happened. And you know, it basically means that you have to swallow your pride and your ego has to, you know, has to disappear if you're going to say, yeah, I was wrong about this for a lot of years and I led people down a real, you know, I was leading people down a really bad path. Yeah, I hope to see that from a lot of people right now who are like just making, cheering on policies that are not doing anything to strengthen this country. And it's not that I can and not the country, the people, you know, the idea of a country, let's talk about nation, which is a people. There is very little being done to solve that problem. And one thing that when you understand how big this problem is, you have, you realize that it can't be done incrementally. It has to be done all at once. If, if Curtis Yarvin was right about anything, he was right about the fact that if this country was going to be taken back, if the administrative state, the deep state, you know, whatever you want to call it, was going to be taken down, it would have had to be in the first two weeks. Sam Hyde was right. After Charlie Kirk got shot, you had two weeks and Charlie Kirk getting shot proved one thing, and it should have proved one thing to everybody. When you saw no response for that, that MAGA died with car. The, the whole idea or hope of MAGA died with Charlie Kirk because apparently for all of his flaws and I have many criticisms of the man and his policies. He seemed to be keeping things focused and basically keeping it from becoming what it has become. Apparently he didn't want the bombing in Iran, did he? After the Iran bombing, did he, did he say, you know, good job the way it was done? Sure, you're going to do that. You're going to try and support your friends and a lot of people are just going to root for the home team even when they're wrong. But it is undeniable. The change how basically clear since Charlie Kirk's death, it has become that we live in Judeo America. And anyone who can't see that and anyone who can't see that everything that's being done right now to try and solve the problems is just a band aid at most. I don't know what to say to him. I don't know what to say to them. Gold is 4, $500 an ounce and silver is $90.
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B
So I know what to say to them. Join your local chapter, the Old Glory Club because they're the only people who are going to give a whether you get shot or not. Because there are insane common. You think that these insane communists who are, you know, like exercising law enforcement, you know, they're, they're, they're tailing people, they're interrogating people. You think that they're not going to be like after you. You think that oh that's in Minneapolis, that's not in my city. There are insane communists who think because they have immortal self confidence, they have the moral self confidence to actually say what I think is good is good and the people who are against me are bad. And conservatives want to play fair and think that, oh well, they might have a point. We need to be fair on both sides. No, Renegood was bad and the people who supported were bad are bad. And anybody that wants to doesn't want to let America be America is a bad person. And they'll, they'll kill you dead for listening to this show, let alone what they want to do to me or Jose or Peter Charles. They want us to die slow and painful and I've seen them talk about it. So take it seriously because no one in power is going to because if they did, you'd see changes.
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Anyone?
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C
Just briefly, I want to step back to you, Pete, saying that you hate the word cope. And I'll be honest with you, I do too. I don't know if we hate it for the same reasons, but I loathe it. I loathe it. I'M going to try and keep this cogent by using all of your, all of the men's points here to kind of make a point point. I loathe the word because I think it's constantly misused. I think what the real Cope is, I think what, I think what cope is are the people that you've been battling for some time. Pete, when you talk about you maybe had some bad opinions but you're trying to move past them, get rid of them, get people back onto the right path, you have the courage and the humility to admit error. And I'd like to thank all of us here do. I'd like to think we do. I'd like to think I do. But Cope to me is people that just keep finding excuses. Cope to me is people that keep living vicariously, getting win wins air quotes through other people. That's Cope. Cope isn't fa isn't saying, hey, we're going to have to do this all or nothing, one fell swoop. That's not Cope that's talking about reality, saying that, well, this plan isn't going to work for X reason so we need to think of another one. Is not Cope. Cope is just making excuses. Cope is just pulling thin air reasons. Cope is just moving the goal posts on the back of a golf cart every time somebody raises a good point. That's what infuriates me about Cope. Cope is, to put it quite simply in terms I think D might appreciate. Cope is failing to take things seriously. That's one thing D that you said to me that turned my life around from the self destructive path it was on. And you did. You weren't even judging me or attacking me. You were talking about yourself and how you were and I believe it was Thanksgiving dinner and you were surrounded by adult men older than you and you were the only one that said, well, I guess somebody's got to cut the turkey, nobody's doing it, I'll get up and do it. And you said something that changed my life. You're like, because I was the only serious adult in the room, everybody else was goofing off or doing something or shirking responsibility. I was the only serious adult and that changed my life in a breath. Be a serious adult. Understand what time it is, understand what is at stake. You can give explanations but do not give excuses.
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B
Yeah, well, I very flattered to hear that that meant so much to you. And I want to say something to both Pete and Jose that I've learned an immense amount because both of them right after 2020, people's like, oh, these people don't want to be free. They don't, they don't want the responsibility of being free. They'll just sit in their house and smoke weed because the government told them not to go outside because someone caught the cold. You know, Jose could have been, Jose could have been in Congress right now as the pro gun Hispanic guy in Texas. If he'd pushed hard and been like, I love America and guns and I'm Hispanic and I'm not a communist. Vote for me in Dallas, he'd be either a chief of staff or in Congress right now. No bullshit. The establishment Republicans would have creamed their paints at the idea of Jose Nino pro American brown guy. But he didn't because he had some self respect and realized that the only people that are going to like if they lie to you about Jews or they lie to you about the reality of race or they lie to you about women or whatever. Cope, cope you want. They're not going to tell you the truth when the chips are down. They're lying to you. Now when it's easy, What are you, what are you going to do when just as a for instance, what happens when England defaults because they don't have any money? And then all of a sudden the whole global financial system isn't absolute storm and all of a sudden people aren't getting paid. Do you think that these people that you know love, love America right alongside you, do you think that they're going to care about your kids being hungry? No, they're not. Because it was all. And they were trying to, they were trying to grift off of you from the beginning, whether it's. Nick Fuentes or Steve Bannon or anybody else. I'm not speaking for anybody else here but whoever it is that's not telling you the truth about who this is for, that we're living under a Judeo occupied America, that ZOG is real and it's the problem. Anyone not telling you that is lying to you and they're lying to you for a reason because everybody knows it. Now there is no excuse to not know the truth about, about ZOG now.
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I mean it's, it's kind of frustrating when you, when people who understand that it, it's not the man, it's the system. It's how it's how it's been structured. The people that are in it better there for life and how they are there to work against your best interests and how you can get, your best friend, can get elected president. And if he isn't going to cross the Rubicon immediately and keep going and seek to destroy all this and say they're probably going to kill me.
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D
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B
Well yeah, how does, how does this, how does this coping help you for as you can spending time doing things like building local networks, spend all this time and energy that you have following, you know, whatever's happening on Twitter, x whatever the latest drama.
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That's where the war is being fought, bro. We can win it on Twitter. Chimp out. Chimp out, Chimp out. That's the way we're going to beat them. Chimp out.
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B
Okay, well, but also, But also build local networks. Can you call five guys to help you move a couch if you can't solve that problem first, like, you know, it's not difficult. This is, this is who's, who's gonna help you if like not, not necessarily a fan of like Cam Higby, but like when he got his car surrounded by communists and they soaked his windows. You saw that like, okay, who's going to help him if he has to shoot a bunch of people? Does he have a lawyer on retainer? Does he have money for a lawyer? Do you have money for a lawyer? Do you know a lawyer? Will you. Do you have enough friends that everyone can chip in 50 bucks and get you an attorney if you have to shoot somebody who's, like, you know, sees the way you drive your suv? Oh, you can't drive a pro America car around here. You have an American flag sticker in the back of your truck. You're obviously a fascist gestapo. Boop. You know, jackboot, and I'm gonna surround you with, you know, five crazy women in pink hair, and they're gonna box you in and stop your car. They're gonna tell you, you have to remove that sticker in this neighborhood because we care about our neighbors. You gonna deal with that? How are you gonna deal with that? You should probably start thinking about that instead of, like, I don't know, can you name the major, you know, drainage in Venezuela? Do you know the river there that. Do you know. Do you know the topography of Venezuela? Do you know. Do you know anything about Venezuela? Can you even pronounce it correctly? Like, can you tell me who the first president was? And I'm not an expert, but, like, do you know anything about Greenland? You know, before you do the whole, like, do flexing with, you know, fire, fireworks and, like, American flags. Gif about Greenland. Do you know anything about it? Do you know what 50,000 Eskimos will drink if they come to New York City? Like, everything. There won't be a shampoo bottom with alcohol left in it in your little town. If the people of. Of Denmark or not Denmark of green get moved here, how's that going to work out? But America, Fuck, yeah. Grow up. It's really not that difficult. I mean, I've had to eat the fact that I was wrong about the Iraq war for years and years. And I was. It was terrible, but I admitted I was wrong. Do you think anyone. Listen to me now. If I was like, well, yeah, I was wrong about the. Oh, I was right about the Iraq war. What? No, it wasn't. It was stupid. It was wrong. It was evil. It was bad. And so is this, and so is every other war we've waged. This is not. You know, we have a war at
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home
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B
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C
You know, to your point. D. About. Do you know anything about Greenland? Do you know anything about Venezuela? And you throw the gif about, you know, America, the flag, the eagle, all that. I. I'm going to piggyback off of your point. Okay. What's your state capital? I'm not even going to get into America. What's your state capital? What's the state bird? Do you know those? You know those two?
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Who's your state representative? Yeah. Who's your city manager?
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D
Like, who's. Yeah. Who's on the board of the county commission? Yeah, Yeah.
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C
I mean, I agree with you, Jose, and you're absolutely right. The reason. The reason I choose what I choose is to say, I guarantee at least 40% of people won't even be able to know their state capitol.
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You're.
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C
I mean, I agree with your point, Jose. I don't want you to think I'm trying to undermine it. I'm just starting out very easy and very small. What's your state capital? What's the state bird? Do you know either of those two? Because I know mine. Now, that's not to say I'm some kind of expert on the state or some brilliant mind, but I mean, if I claim to like this state because I live here, if I claim that, if I have the. If I have the balls to say that it's one of the best moves I ever made in my life was to move here, is it perfect?
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No.
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C
But was it one of the best moves I ever made in my life? Yes. Well, then I'm going to learn a little bit about it because I like it. Well, if you love America, why don't you try and learn a little bit about it? How about paying a lot less attention to what goes on outside of our border and a hell of a lot more on what goes in inside. So please, Jose, you can go ahead. I just don't want you to feel like I undermined your point.
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D
No, I just wanted to just stress how people need to secure their neighborhood and just get their neighborhood in order before they start going on, like, bigger project, political projects. But I want to also highlight another point that if you're gonna get into politics, you need to define what your goals are and your. What constitutes, like, a victory. For example, you want an immigration moratorium.
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Cool.
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How are you going to get there? Who are you going to entrust? What type of vehicle are you going to use, what organizations are going to use, and which representatives are going to get behind? Because if you pick the wrong vehicle or whatever, you're just not going to get there. No matter how hard you try to rationalize your bad political behavior and and how to you're going to get to that final destination. It's going to be like the hardest part. You may if you can't find people on the inside, you're going to probably have to take matters into your own hands and start from scratch and building an organization from the bottom up on finding like minded people because the time to rely on on relying on false prophets is long past us and there's no reason to be embarking on a ship that's going to take you on on the wrong destination.
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A
You know it? Yeah, yeah. She had her acceptance speech today. What was her, what was one of her main points? Fighting Trump's immigration policy.
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B
Her first executive order as governor was to repeal Youngin's policy of allowing local law enforcement to cooperate with immigration enforcement. So not even 100 miles away from Washington, in Richmond, like literally across the river from Washington where most of the people who live and work in Washington actually live in what in Virginia,
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right?
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Like literally across the street in Washington D.C. i'm on Google Earth right now.
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C
Okay.
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B
The Potomac is not even a mile across, less than a mile from Washington D.C. you're in Virginia, in Arlington and the writ of the law does not run a mile. You know, right outside of Arlington National Cemetery, The governor of Virginia. But. But. But the Civil War, people were traitors. Robert E. Lee, when his home, his family home that became National Cemetery, he was a traitor. We need to tear all his statues down. But Abigail Spanberger. No, she's just a patriotic American. No, she said, isn't she Jewish? She's not an American. Whatever she is. Doesn't matter if she's Jewish. Your husband might be Jewish. Doesn't matter. She's not American. Deal with that first before we're like, we should invade Venezuela or we should invade Brazil, or we should let the Israelis burn down Patagonia. We should invade Greenland, invade Baltimore, and then see how that goes. And then get back to me.
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A
Yeah, I don't know that there's much more that we can say on the subject. I've kept you guys long enough on a Saturday night, and I appreciate y' all joining me because, you know, just the frustration is there that people fall back into this because they like Trump or they know someone who works in the administration or, you know. Well, I. I have a friend that talks to the administration. Okay, good, good, good, good. Those. Those administrative employees, are they. They're still there? Yeah, they're still there. Okay. All right, cool. Yeah, he is able to deport people without a judge stepping in. No, no. Okay, okay, okay, okay, Good, good, good. Thank you. Appreciate that. A lot of cope going on. But, yeah, I appreciate you guys getting with me and adding and definitely adding to it, because it's just me. I just sit here getting frustrated. So I'll go around the horn. We'll start with. Start with Jose. Jose's got a lot going on. Where can people find your work? Jose, what do you want to plug?
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B
No.
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D
Thank you so much, Pete, for having me on again. And also, it's great chatting with De and Charles, as always. But, yeah, you find my work at Headline usa, where I'm a editor there, and I write about some new stuff there. And also I'm very active on my sub stack, Jose Ninja Unfiltered with my articles and my podcast, El Nino Speaks, which can also be found on YouTube, Rumble Odyssey, and Spotify. And then, yeah, I. I occasionally write for Occidental observer. And if you would just want, like, my regular musings, I'm on X slash Twitter at Jose Al Nino.
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A
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C
Thank you, Pete, as always. Thank you very much for having me. I greatly appreciate it. It's always good to speak with you, Jose. Definitely. D. We speak plenty offline and online. But it, you know, it's always a pleasure. I don't have anything specific to plug. I've got a lot going on personally, trying to get a lot of things in order, career change, etc. But I just want to say that I can be found on X at Whiskey and Ashes. I still have a book out there, the Holistic Guide to Suicide. If anybody has depression, suicide ideation, anything like that, I do hope it will help you get past any trauma or difficult times.
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Other than that.
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C
God bless everybody. Thank you for listening. I'll pass the floor today.
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B
Muted Sorry, I am on substack Fundamental Principle. I have my own religious based show there and I kind of hear there everywhere. Jose supposed to speak on, on his show at some point and you know, just thank you all very much for your kind words and your following and please support the guys that support you. You know, buy Charles's books, subscribe to the different substacks, you know, kick Pete a few bucks because everyone else is gonna lie to you and the only thing, the only weapon you have is the truth. So, you know, free man, beyond the wall slash support. I think I always get that wrong. But you know, kick Pete a few bucks because without him this wouldn't be possible.
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A
Whoops. I was muted out that time. I appreciate that and I think I actually got a change to the Peak and yonashow.com now. But if there is a forward slash something after that, I totally forgot what it is. But appreciate that, appreciate all three of you and until the next time, thank you very much. Want to welcome everyone back to the Picanones show. The thought crime syndicate minus one de is under the weather. So I got Jose and Charles here but we're just going to jump right in and Jose's been writing and recording about what's been going on. So I'm gonna kick it to him. And yeah, Jose, start out wherever you want, man.
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D
Yeah, thank you for having me on again, Pete and appreciate being here with you again as well, Charles. But yeah, I mean things are just going off the rails and that's one of the main reasons why I was not enthusiastic this past election cycle did not and just sat out because I feared that Trump, given his multi decade connections that even like start with his father with American jewelry, especially some of the weirdest factions of world jewelry like the Chabad Lubovich group and other kook Zionists gave into their pressure and is now mired in a kerfuffle, to say the least against Iran that has potential, not just like geopolitical implications, but also economic implications that could really derail his just agenda and presidency. And that's one of the things that I've been warning about for some time, especially in on substack, about just the fact that not just this term, but his first term, he has gone, Trump has gone above and beyond when it comes to carrying out the racial will to power of the Jewish people, specifically the Israelis on foreign policy affairs. And this, these Iran strikes are just the latest escalation and the maximum fulfillment of what the clean break agenda of just trying to knock off Iran and who knows what's going to happen. But let's just hope for some type of restraint, a just complete conclusion, a fast conclusion to this conflict because the longer it drags on, you could see energy prices soar, a lot of casualties for young American white men and soldiers. That should not be there, that should actually just be placed at the border or in other parts of like the country or western hemisphere where the US should be at. But that's what happens when your country and government, the commanding heights of the economy and financial institutions are captured by a hostile ethnic group.
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So yeah, yeah, the, I mean, I guess we knew that there was going to be a lot of Jewish influence over this, over this second term of his. You know, I think at that you just hope that it would be as much as the first, not this, I mean this is, you know, in a week. This is above and beyond what, what he did for jewelry in the first term.
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D
Yes, 100%. Yeah. I mean they broke a good deal of taboos in the first term. As I mentioned in my piece, the Judeo accelerationist presidency, whether it was like the attacks on Syria, Qasem Soleimani, the assassination there, and even like the recognition of Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights and the movement of the capital of from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. These are all just largely diplomatic gestures that even neocons and neoliberal interventionists didn't do before. But this is way different because it's much like hello, it is Ryan.
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C
Yeah, that makes perfect sense to me. Jose, when you were talking about the cracks were in the first administration and Pete, you were saying that you saw, you was, you were hoping at the very least that, that his bending the knee, the Trump's bending the knee to Zionist interest wouldn't, it would not worsen. You were hoping that at least it would stay. Obviously you'd prefer it to be lessened, but you at least hope it wouldn't worsen. To me this is all like a giant spidering piece of glass or imagine getting a crack in your windshield. We can all see the first crack but unless you do something about it, it's just going to grow and grow and grow. And now we're watching that happen in real time. And the worst part about all these, obviously there's myriad terrible parts of this, but to me my thinking the worst part of all of this is that it's, it's cracking and it's just so obvious. I guess you could say in a way it's a, it's a silver lining or a, or a backhanded success, but it's so obvious now that we are an occupied nation. I said long ago in, in 2020, the worst thing a shadow government can do is to step into light. And I think that's what they've done. And by this it's just become so obvious. Even the most normie of normies are now engaging in the noticing tm. So I, as I said, I can see the cracks are getting worse. And that is a bad thing. It's just the slavish devotion to these, as we talked about in previous thought, Crime Syndicate episodes, specifically one, the slavish devotion to the psychopathic nation is just worsening. And the irony is it's just going to be this self replicating cycle that's just going to keep spinning and spinning. It's going to be that piece of glass, that windshield, that the cracking is going to get worse and worse because once you put your foot on the gas with this, then it just becomes, it has nowhere to go but grow. As we all know, they have all these laws and they're pushing them even further and harder with anti Semitism laws and all that, blah, blah, blah, to get rid of anti Semitism and to fight anti Semitism, crying out loud, they put a commercial, commercial on the super bowl about it. But the bitter irony is the more they keep doing this and the more they keep making those cracks larger and larger and larger. So we're going to see this spiraling outwards until everything comes crashing down in a, I mean in a spectacular, in every sense of the word, display. The only problem is what's going to be standing. I mean, and I couldn't even tell you, I wouldn't even feel comfortable guessing as to what's going to be standing at the end of this. Because right at this moment the only thing keeping things from just completely spiraling out of control is just the fact that I truly believe, in a way it's like Covid, nobody really knows what to do about it. We have these people obeying the psychopathic nation and everybody else just standing on the sidelines. I mean realistically standing on the sidelines, they could, they can saber rattle all they want, but realistically standing on the sidelines looking at each other, going, well, what do we do now? What do we do? Because the stakes now have just been amplified. How exactly do we respond to this? And to me, I mean, I think we're going to, I think you're going to see that this is just going to build speed. I wish it didn't and, but I have a sinking suspicion that it will.
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Yeah, this seems like it's, it's only going to get worse before it gets better. But who could who would have predicted 10 years ago that over 50% of the country was, would be pro Palestinian? I mean I know that like democracy is. But one thing that I also know about history from studying these people is, is that it normally doesn't go well for them when the majority of people start to notice them. I mean look at Russia, what you might call what some people have called peasants. Antisemitism. I mean that was rampant throughout Russia. Any kind of reaction against them was never top down, was never from the Tsar. It was always from the people around them who were, you know, who could see that there was something going on.
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C
Yeah, I mean that's, that's why all of the cries of anti Semitism and all the, and all the victim is self assessed victimhood is just so absurd. You're talking about cultures thousands of miles and thousands of years apart from one another. All seem to somehow keep noticing the same thing. I mean as I'm fond of saying it's become a meme now, but, and I'm not saying anybody stole it from me personally, but I mean I've been saying it for 20 years. If I get thrown out of 109 bar, nobody blames restauranteurs, I'm obviously the problem, but yet we have to keep playing this ludicrous, I mean in every sense of the word, this ludicrous and incredible by the most classic definition version of history where somehow they're always just inexplicably picked upon. And that's what I was saying earlier with this was that it's only going to get worse because as more and more people notice and see the behaviors. I mean for goodness sake, my, my dental hygienist whom I've gotten to listen to. The show has started out years ago as, as a very strong supporter of Israel and in the last six months to a year has only become begun really as we say, noticing TM and put connecting dots and drawing lines together and then realizing wait a minute, perhaps everybody's dislike or distaste or both is not entirely unfounded. Perhaps it's not this boogeyman of bigotry and ignorance that is the cause of this dislike of this group of people. Perhaps there is something to be said for it.
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Yes, I think as well to add on is that this is just like a natural civilizational cycle of recognizing a parasitic entity and group of actors that have just burrowed themselves into the polity and the gentile body is reacting to it. I mean, might not be optimal, but it's, there's going to be a Big reaction brewing and more people are noticing this. And I do think the one thing that is very instructive is that in the whole lead up to this conflict in Iran, it is, it is pretty breathtaking how there's just no more pretense of democracy or representative governance now. It's just done through Caesarism for the, for Jewry, if you will, through just blanket executive actions to carry out the racial will of the Jewish people in the Middle East. And that's something that, to remind people that like the Schoolhouse Rock model of governance that we're taught in school, like that's over when you let this hostile click take control of the state. And that. And it's been, it's been a reality check. And one thing that has been really, that has made me pull my hair out is just, there's just been no pushback from the freaking Congress whatsoever. Both chambers. I mean, they're obviously bought and paid for, like super majority if there's one thing. And the thing that's even more frightening too is that this whole apparatus in Congress can't even pass any good laws. But the one thing they sure can pass or move forward is any. Is mostly stuff dealing with organized jewelry. But they can't pass an immigration moratorium, they can't repeal birthright citizenship, they can't end chain migration. They can't do any of this type of stuff. But they sure could pass these resolutions condemning anti Semitism or other acts like that, or pass like military aid for Israel. But that just goes to show who's actually the sovereign here. And that's some, that's the who whom question we always have to ask ourselves when analyzing politics. Because you can talk all you want about democracy, liberalism, individualism, blah, blah, blah, but if you can't even identify who the, the sovereign is and who the actual like, friend enemy is in this friend enemy distinction, it's not engaging in politics. You're engaging in just like a form of wishcasting or at best political masturbation.
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Well, you know, one of the things that is commonly talked about is how, you know, democracy, republicanism, it's, it's just going to default to oligarchy. The problem is, is that if you understand that there are oligarchs, well, then they'd be pretty simple to see. And for a long, well, for a long time they weren't. Now the Internet comes along and people like, have all this information at their fingertips. You have Twitter where you can see people, you know, even prominent people making comments. Then you know, the Epstein files Comes along and it drops and it's like, okay, well if we're an oligarchy, that means we have oligarchs. And it seems like the top group are, is this Jewish group of oligarchs. There are other oligarchs out there. I think that, you know, the Teal Network is its own separate group that probably, you know, has ties to jewelry as well. I think someone as simple as Hunter Biden, the Biden prime family, was trying to put together their little kind of thing and that Hunter was like their Jeffrey Epstein and shared the same predilections as well. You have to be able to name the oligarchs. But they, I guess they figured out that, well, if we're going to have an oligarchy and we're going to be able to do dominate it, then we're going to have to be the one group that you can't talk about because it's illegal, it's unseemly. You're blaming another group on your, you know, for your problems. You're just jealous because we have high IQs, you know, and that's pretty much what you've seen since World War II is a brainwashing and social engineering campaign to make people either not notice who, you know, who is wielding power, who's punching way above their weight. And if you do notice, well, you think there's something, there's something wrong with noticing them. You may be able to talk about, you know, how many right wingers are there on Twitter that will talk about how terrible the, how terrible the blacks are and the Muslims and everything. But no, you know, we're not, we're not talking about, we're not going to talk about that group. That group. They're, they're just so high IQ that they're, they're really, really smart, you know, and you know, you really should pay attention to them and maybe even, maybe even, you know, ally with them because, you know, would Jews. You win. Well, what do you win? What are you talking about? You know, the one thing about the deal with the devil is, is you don't. You make a deal with the devil. You don't get anything out of it. It actually, you actually end up screwed.
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Yeah, I mean, I mean, ask who's the famous golfer that lost everything? Jack. Am I thinking of Jack Nicholas? I'm trying to think. There's a famous golfer that basically lost everything, even his own name. It was just, it's unbelievable. Look into it. Yeah, he made a deal with them and everything just snowballed. From there, he lost everything and they owned him lock, stock and barrel. So you, I mean, I understand and I'll be the first one to say it. I've said it. On this program and other programs, our list of allies grows thin. It's always been thin. And although it is expanding more and more with each passing day as our opponents reveal themselves, we still are very small in number. We're still not very numerous, but still it's like you have to be careful with who you want to jump into bed with. And especially, as you said, with some groups, you're just guaranteed to lose. You're just, you're just guaranteed. Why? Because you're, you're dealing with two fundamentally different worldviews, fundamentally different approaches toward allyship. One is in good faith. One is purely and utterly just ad hoc. Like, what's, what am I going to get out of this now? And if you're not going to be useful to me in 10 minutes, then, then in 10 minutes we don't have an allyship anymore. There's no foundation of any sort of lasting alliance. That's one of the things that's always made me nauseous about Sacha Baron Cohen and all his air quotes, comedies like, what's he really doing? He's mocking high trust societies. Look at these people. They're rubes, they're fools. It's like that's, that's called a high trust society. Like that's, that's people giving other people the benefit of the doubt, giving people good faith, and yet it's just being mocked. So I, to me, even thinking, as you said, Jose, like some of these people, when it were both of you said, you know, imagine getting into bed with these people. It's like to me that I just can't even imagine that crossing my mind. I can understand. Whether I agree with it or not is completely irrelevant to the point, but I can understand why some people may not want to name the enemy, may not want to put them in their sights necessarily. Not, not sure I agree with it, but I can understand that. I can comprehend it. But to, to ally or to seek fake, hurry, favor, like, that's just, that's just insane. As you said, Pete, you don't, you don't deal with the devil because it's never going to come out on top ever. And the worst thing you can do is think that you will, is think that you can outsmart the devil. You can. You simply can't. He's been doing this for too long and has far too much Practice you don't delude yourself, you're not going to outsmart him.
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What are the opinions on basically Heg, Seth and Mike Johnson coming out and basically saying what we would say and what we would get in trouble for saying. And he just said it. They just said it.
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Well, I mean most of the political class, honestly, they know about the jq, but they just have the mindset that you can't beat them, join them or with Jews, you win. And they know about this, Edward. Push comes of shove, they'll, they'll say it. But I mean it's already too late. The facts are already being created on the ground as we speak. And these people, like they could obviously fall of witness damages to their career later down the line because they're ultimately fallgoys. That's, that's what happens when you packed with the Jews. You become expendable. And at any given moment and by blowing up their spot, they're now in that fogoi territory. Especially if this whole campaign turns into a complete disaster like in the case of Hegseth. But yeah, I mean in the highest echelons of power, especially among gentiles, they know about this stuff, but they just willingly join it because they have really messed up morals and principles. And that's why when I do what I tell people, like when you're making political moves or whatever, you want to make the right moves and the ones that are like in line with your principles and morals. It's one thing to shut up about these issues because of work related stuff where you can solve for like economic punishment and stuff like that. You, you have to pick your battles there. But if you're actually like a serious political actor that is going to be in an antagonistic struggle against like jewelry or some other allies, you have to stick to your guns. Because if you try to play these slick games, make these fian packs and deals with the devil, you're just going to end up getting screwed and the people around you screwed as well. In the long term, we have to have like long term thinking when getting into the arena.
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C
Well, remember too, you're dealing with a fundamentally spiritually feminine feminine group. And this is what I've said for a while, you're dealing with a fundamentally spiritually feminine group. So you have to approach it as that. And that has to be kept in mind at all times. In a lot of ways in life, you don't deal with women. You either make your decision or you refuse to concede or you willingly lose. You just say, okay, that's Fine. You either choose to win or you choose to lose. You don't negotiate. That's generally by and large how men really interact with women. You choose your battles. And I know a lot of people listening say, oh, no, no, that's not true. But I think, I really believe it is. You choose your battles. You either say, yeah, sure, we'll do what you want, or you just say, no, we won't. It's very rarely a negotiation and that's what you have in a way, that's what you have to do here. But to kind of go back to what you said, Jose, I think even if one were to approach them with a real politic attitude and say, well, we have to deal with certain people, they have certain things we need, or
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I do think that even in a real politics sense, there are some groups you just shouldn't deal with. You should just try and circumvent at all costs. There's some people you just should do not do business with. And yes, we already said that about dealing with the devil, but I think it even goes further than that. They should just try and either keep them as your opponent or just simply don't deal with them, period. Like, that's it, just try and completely circumvent them. Because I think anything else they're going to, they're going to much like women, they're going to fight on their field of battle. And it is one you will probably be ill equipped, ill equipped upon which to fight. Because they're going to use tactics and things that you're just, that just aren't yours and that you're just unfamiliar with, emote things like emotion, appeals to authority, appeals to all sorts of things, all your loyalties and they're going to twist them. As you said earlier in the program, Jose, you were saying earlier, they're going to draw you in with these notions and then they're just going to turn it around on you. They're going to find ways to taint it. So to me, you, you either make them your opponent or you just try not to deal with them and then just go from there. That's all. That's all. You really can do, as far as I see, because any other option, you become their golem, you become their slave, you become their puppet.
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You have to treat it like any other occupation, like a real occupation. Like if a military was occupying, you know, foreign military was occupying your country, you wouldn't. Yeah, unless you were a traitor, you wouldn't, you wouldn't side with them. You do everything you could to mitigate all risk in dealing with them. And people just don't get that we are occupied. It's not the same as it used to be. But I mean, it's really a, it's a political and a cultural and
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even
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a metaphysical occupation because that has, you know, our beliefs have been under attack for so long and, you know, it's you to play, to dip your toe in that is to get caught up in it. It's why so many people decide, I'm going to run for office. I'm going to go to Washington D.C. i'm going to do what I can to change it. And as soon as they get there, they're consumed by it and they just become another one of them. That's what happens when you play in these waters. And that is what happened. That, that is what's going to happen to you if you decide, oh, well, you know, with these people, I have a chance in winning, good luck.
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Yeah, exactly. Like, like you're not, you're not going to win. And it's not even a matter. And this is what I was trying to say earlier. It's not even a matter of, I quote, question people's self discipline or power or drive or principles, anything. I don't, I don't question any of that. Again, I just say you're dealing with people that have been playing this game in a certain way for a very, very long time. It's why historically, the only way to handle them was exile. Like, no, that's it. Or confinement, containment. You stay in your neighborhood, that's it. Because any other way we lose. It really is that simple. We can't, we can't underestimate the wisdom of our ancestors and our forefathers. It was, this is the only way these problems are handled. Exile or containment, that's it. And then, oddly enough, both work swimmingly well and that's about it.
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Yes, I think there is a point to be made here as well, that going back to basics goes a long way. And getting his, his becoming historically literate will help you understand why these type of Faustian bargains are just bad from the jump and just have, have a reference point, too, because I feel that especially in this incredibly deracinated society where people don't have good reference points or models to look at, just going back and dusting off your history books will go a long way to get you up to speed and help you prevent. Help prevent you making big political mistakes by consorting with the wrong people. And sometimes this may be hard work for people. It's simple but hard. But it has to be done because as they say, the lazy man does like double or if not triple the work. So I wanted to stress this point. Some of this stuff is not sexy. It will be tedious, but it, but doing so will prevent you a whole lot of headache in the long term, for sure. And that's what we need, this type of thinking that goes back to the classics and to our ancestors, and also that stresses historical literacy, learning about your heroes and also their struggles and your civilization struggles over the course of history and identifying bad actors so that when those bad actors come again, but in a reappear in a modern context, you're ready to actually go toe to toe with them.
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Well, what's, what's your opinion on just how it seems that nobody knows history, that they think that Iran, a country that is far more advanced and far more capable than Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, even Syria to a certain extent, is just going to, oh, this is just a walk in the park. We drop some bombs and we get regime change. You know, I, my friend John Fieldhouse pointed out this week that the only from the air regime change we've ever seen was in Bosnia and they had a very active color revolution happening on the ground and they were preparing to invade. So it's like Trump's a smart guy. Like JD Vance said last year on Meet the Press after, after whatever that operation was called that they did in June. Well, the reason why it didn't work is because the pre. The last presidents who tried it were dumb and now we have a smart president.
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I mean, the hubris is staggering. I don't know. I don't know what else to say beyond that.
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Like.
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Like the hubris is staggering.
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Yeah, there's a lot of cartoonish type of thinking with regards to how people view geopolitics. And this goes back to the point of being historically literate and having good reference points, because when your reference points are Marvel Cape and Star Wars, GI Joe stuff, you're going to view things like in the foreign policy realm in a way that it's just a matter of pressing the right buttons, dropping the right bomb, killing the right people at the top and you take over the government. It's not how things work abroad, especially when you're dealing with different civilizations that are far more structured than can actually resist and that are willing to sacrifice because. So one thing too, the point out, and this is just evidence that we live in a thoroughly Judaized society, is that many people, because of the fact that they are de facto Mammon worshippers, they see things in a purely economically reductionist and finan and financialized lens. Like, let's face it, there are people abroad that fight for more than just money or whether something's going to be bad for their bottom line. They, they, they, they will fight to the bitter end to keep foreigners out of their territories or for higher ideals. And that's something that many people can't comprehend because their minds have been effectively colonized by the Pan Judah. But this is a point that we have to start emphasizing with people around us or those who are receptive to what we have to say is to get them back to the basics so that we can actually re Aryanize if you will our society. Get the thinking more like our ancestors than the present Cape addled populace as brains have just been melted by all this bad information and content.
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Yeah, my buddy Mike Ferris, who has the coffee and a mic podcast, real heterodox, you know, he's had me and De on and you know he'll have like Paul Craig Roberts on, he'll just have some normies on there but you know, he just talks to everybody. Yeah, he has this thing he's been saying for a while. He's like, everybody thinks they're living in a superhero movie. And I mean like someone's coming to save them and they're not, you know, and no one's coming to save you.
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To me, I think, honestly, Pete, I'm not. This is a, this is agree and amplify not a pedanticism. To me, me it's yes end and I think it's even worse than that. It's. I used to think that yes, the worst of it was people think someone's coming to save them, but they're not. To me, now that I look a little farther and I look a little deeper and I think a little bit more about the past and the present and possibly the future. To me, the worst of it is not only do they think people can save them or that somebody's coming to save them, they think they're just the good guys are going to win. It's like that's like the old Norm MacDonald joke goes, you know, well, what do you know? The good guys literally won every war up till now. I'll be darn. What about that? It's like. But that's not actually how the world works, you know, as you said with the cape shitting stuff, it's like Iron man and Captain America and all those guys aren't just, you know, they don't win every time. That's not how the real world works. I wish it were that the good guys always win. All they had to do, all they had to do was show up. But that's, that's not how it is. It's simply not not how it is. And I think that's part of the ignorance that we have that we really need to remedy is that victory is not guaranteed. I mean, as a man of faith, I do believe God's going to win in the end, but that doesn't mean that we. Doesn't mean that things are going to be go well for us down here. And if we want things to go at least reasonably well for us down here, then we have to fight and we have to take it one bloody inch at a time, you know, one muddy patch of ground at a time. And I think that's what, what we have to recall. We have to remember what's worth fighting for. That's the other thing, our creature comforts. I've talked about this on other podcasts. Yeah, it's nice to have a 52 inch TV. It's nice to have an Xbox or whatever you want. I'm not going to argue any of those things. But are any of them really making you happy? Or is there a profound hole in the center of your soul, the center of your being? And I think that would be the note that I would want to strike with people most often. Well, if I rock the boat, then I'll lose my X. I'll lose my Y. I'll lose my Z. Okay, well, are any of them making you satisfied? I won't even use the word happy. I'll use the word. Do you wake up every day and feel content with the man you are and your place in the world? If you do, I'll shut the hell up then. Great. Good for you. God bless you. You found What I think is you won life as far as I'm concerned. But I stop seeing the world around me. I don't think I could count that five people like that. And maybe I'm projecting. That's certainly possible. But I, I don't see Any evidence of that being a commonality?
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What's something, I'm sorry, what's something that, you know, we've always said it's like, okay, if you were to even begin to try to fix this, it would take, I mean, will, I mean, just sheer will and I mean a concrete kind of temperament. We just haven't seen that. I mean, we are, we're out there supposed to, we're supposed to be freeing, you know, Iran so that their, their women can become only fans, models and you know, go back to, go back to dressing like sluts like they did in the 1970s. Pictures that I keep seeing. And mind you, all you have to do is search any videos that are six months to a year old on, on YouTube that say Tehran, Tehran, streets of Tehran. And you'll see people walking around with cameras and you're not seeing any hijabs and you're seeing basically people who look like Westerners. So the country is not, you know, it's, oh, they're oppressing their own people. Yeah, that'll happen. But I mean, it's not, they're not out there actively doing anything because every, pretty much every regime has fallen to managerialism at this point. But the, if you're going to have real change, you would have seen it would have affected your life by now. Meanwhile, California is, when I was a kid, California was. Every white person wanted to get rich and move to California. I mean, that was just a goal of so many people. It was like a dream. You know, people talked about Minnesota like, they talk about, you know, Maine and, and, you know, Vermont now where it's just like mostly white and it's mostly peaceful. And you had the old joke about, you know, the only two black people in Minnesota were Prince and Kirby Puckett. And you know, it's, you know, and you have these states that are basically in Texas is getting, you know, sections of Texas are getting overrun by Indians and you have 100 foot statue to a demon and no one's doing anything about that. And so it's, I mean, okay, I mean, if the Iranian people are being, do have this dictator who's killing them and you know, I mean, well, we didn't do anything about that when there were the numerous African dictators who were doing that to people. I mean, you're, look, just be fucking honest with us and say, look, these people have something on us. They're paying us a lot of money. We're true believers. We do what Don Bacon did to me on Twitter. Don Bacon told me, if, if Israel or the United States had to be wiped off the map. He would choose the United States. Just be honest. I would have more respect for you if you were honest. Just say you're doing this. Say you're doing it because, you know, you, you know, there's something about these people, whether they have something on you or whether, you know, you worship them, you know, like a, you know, in a sacrilegious way. Just be. Be honest with me because. And don't try to tell me that, you know, behind the scenes, oh, no, we're fighting. The Q. Shit's dead. No, I'm sorry. I never believed that for a second. So, yeah, just either tell us that you're.
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D
You're.
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Tell us what you are and stop playing games and then, you know, at least if everybody knows that these people are. They run shit and that we're, you know, we're basically working for them. I mean, that's information we need to know. Just tell us.
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C
Yeah, and I do think one of the few positives about all of this is they are telling us. I mean, some of them have been. Been emboldened to say it right out loud, and if they aren't, they're certainly getting closer to it every day because they feel they have enough power to do it openly, directly, unashamedly, unabashedly. So I would say that if I'm trying to find a silver lining or a bit of a white pill, I would say the good news is they are telling us in their own way, insofar as they can admit to things, and the few that won't, they're going to get lumped in anyway. It's already happening. So I'm with you. Though I would prefer just that salute from across the battlefield at least. Okay, let me know you're my enemy. Fly your flag, wear your uniform, do what you're going to do. And I mean, during your whole mention of that, all I kept flashing back to, ironically enough, is a speech by, or an exchange, an interview, but with Malcolm X talking about how. How he. He liked his, you know, air quotes, racist opponents more than he liked white liberals because he compared it to a fox and a wolf, and he said, the wolf, I'll just see. It'll be across. It'll be across the, you know, across the field from me. And I'll look at him and he'll look at me, and I know what he wants and he knows what I want. I can at least respect that. But the fox, you know, he's going to wait for me to Turn my back. He's going to wait for me to slip up and then he's just going to sneak in there in the chicken, in that hen house and get all my chickens. And that's kind of where I am. But then again, that goes back to what I was saying earlier in the conversation. Like, we're dealing with people that do not function like us. They just do not. Whereas if you and I, Pete, will have a disagreement, we'll hash it out, you know, you'll, you'll say to me, I'll say to you, whatever. Okay, hey, what's going on? You know, let's, let's approach each other one on one. Not necessarily even hostilely. Let's just, okay, what's this? What's up? But that's not what these people do. It's just not. They don't. Again, it's very spiritually feminine. They don't, they don't want to admit things until they're sure that they have the upper hand and you won't be able to do anything about it
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and they'll attack you publicly and try to humiliate you, which is the feminine Jewish thing to do, right? Instead of going, instead of going to somebody, especially if you know them or you're aligned with them, to go to them privately and be like, hey, you know, yeah, I have a problem with something you said or something like that. I mean, that would be the, you know, and if somebody does that, I don't think any one of us here on this call would have a problem with that, right?
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C
Not at all. As a matter of fact, it's like, I can't. I, I tend to prefer things like that. If anything, I can't fix what I don't know I did wrong. I mean, it's just not reasonable. Obviously, I think there are ways that things, such things can be approached in such ways that are unadvised to unadvisedly chosen to approach. But yeah, absolutely, I would agree with that 100%. Let me know, say something. Because again, I can't fix what I don't know was broken. So. But like you said, and I, as I said earlier too, like, you're dealing with spiritually feminine.
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A very spiritually feminine group, which is why the only way to handle them all circle back to it is either exile or containment. You either tell. You either tell your wife or your girlfriend, yeah, sure, I'll do what you want, or you tell her, no, we're not. There really isn't a third option. You just say, yes, we'll go with your plan or no, we won't. That's it. And that's basically what you do with them. Now, obviously we also said earlier it's best not to go along with their plan, but I'm painting broad strokes here. And that's why containment and exile are really the only two options when it comes to dealing with. With this group of people. It's like, no, we're just incompatible. And I mean, I would argue there are plenty of other groups that we're. We're largely incompatible with as well, but we're talking about this specific group at the moment.
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Yeah.
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And one thing to keep in mind as well, with the breakdown of the post World War II order that has put Western countries in a trance where people don't acknowledge race, they don't acknowledge Jewish influence and all of that, and see things in an economically reductionist lens, or repeat mantras about how multiculturalism, multiracialism and diversity is like a strength. The strong gods of real politique, they're coming back now and one of the actual existential fights, it's gonna rear its head. It's gonna be dealing with the. The Jewish question. And to parapha. Paraphrase Peter Brimillo, in a metaphorical sense, it will come down to blood. In the sense there's going to be a struggle. It's not going to just be like a friendly debate any longer, especially as our societies break down and these antagonisms ultimately surface because you can keep society in a depoliticized state and sedated with cape stuff, porn, drugs and all of that. But eventually nature has a way of correcting itself. And these type of battles that are put off for a few decades, they're eventually going to come. And that's why it's very important for people to always get their basics sorted out and prepare for this. Because there will come a time for us, whether it's tomorrow, 10 years from now, 20 years from now where we will have to step up to the plate to shape history. And it's always good to have done the work before so that you're not learning on the fly or God forbid you fall on the battlefield. But that's the thing why we need to always keep moving forward and adding to our knowledge and to our experiences about this. Because the, the fictional society we were living in before as me as warped people's minds with regards to reality. But now that we're seeing a breakdown of the system, a form of Judeo accelerationism, especially on the geopolitical sense, but also as the system breaks down on all fronts for the economy, the culture and all of that, there is going to be a power vacuum. And who's going to fill that vacuum will shape the course of history. And if the good guys want to do that, well, you got to put in the work and get ready for that. Because having the right ideas is simply not enough.
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A
One of the things I noticed about this too is that you know who's talking about deportations? I think you, I think you mentioned this earlier, Jose, you know who all of a sudden all of the energy is, hey, look over there. Why? Well, because what's happening here, I mean the, the promises that we heard about the, you know, mass deportations and you get the southern border closed, but then you have the northern border. And anyone who knows anything about what's going on in Canada should probably see that the Canadian border is a bigger threat to us right now than, than even the southern border. But you know, actually if you didn't have the military traipsing all over the world, you could actually, you know, Ron Paul talked about this years ago. You don't have the military. If you don't have bases in 100, you know, 112 countries, then you can bring those people home and you can make sure that the people who are coming into this country actually belong here.
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D
One thing to quickly point out too, you could, I mean, if this whole Iran thing just turns into a geopolitical and geo economic debacle, rest assured the Republicans are going to get wrecked in the midterms. And you could just say goodbye to any legislative, long lasting legislative efforts to restrict immigration ever being passed because of a split Congress. So I mean, this stuff, what ultimately the system is what it does. And when you see that the political system just prioritizes these wars over the stuff that politicians campaign on, like say immigration restriction like Trump did and all of its presidential runs, it just goes to show you it's captured that way. And that's, and this makes people have to answer tough questions about who actually is the sovereign here. But yeah, I mean we have to reassess a lot of things. Many people that have been operating under really flawed political assumptions or engaging in wishful thinking and bad political behavior are going to have to take stock and recognize that some of the things they learned were obviously wrong and they just have to adapt. But one thing is for sure, we should always be looking at politicians, track records, their funding sources, the people that they network with over the years so that you don't get duped by the next populous snake oil salesman.
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C
Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. But some of the work you have to do is monitoring your allies or your potential allies at the very least. That's an excellent point.
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A
Yeah, we, we also have to see who is, who's working with them and we need to know, we need to know who, who's supporting them as they're, as they're doing this. You know, I, I think I, I said this on the episode I recorded this afternoon with Dodson and Modad, but Fox News is saying, oh, Iran 2026 is nothing like Iraq 2003. And well that, that's actually correct. It's more, it's more, what it could more turn into is Iraq 1992 to 2002, which results in a boots on the ground invasion. This is pretty much how that all started. Take out, you know, go in there. You know, the difference with 92 with Iraq War One was they didn't take out Saddam, but they're not going to be taking out the leader. They're, what are they going to do here? They don't even have, they don't have a plan right now. I mean, right before I heard this last night, but right before we went on the air, it was revealed that the three F15s that got shot down over Kuwait were shot down by a Kuwaiti F18A in a quote unquote friendly fire. It's a CL. I mean it's a, it's a clusterfuck what's going on over there.
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B
Yeah. Yep.
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C
Well, that's what I was saying earlier is like I, I really think you're seeing a lot of people that don't know what, what to do. I mean both in a larger sense as far as politically or legion allegiance wise. But I mean, I'm also meaning it in a more micro sense. You've got so, so many of these militaries, so many of these organizations, military and non military Alike, they're just rife with incompetence. They're just rife with buffoons. They just don't. Don't know what they're doing. And so many people have been chosen because of either DEI or just nepotism. If you're dealing with other parts of the world where nepotism is just incredibly rife, like the. I mean, this is just gonna be. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. But the problem is. It's tragic.
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A
It's.
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C
It's incredibly tragic. And as you said earlier, like, I do. Why are we even here? Like, we have so much. We have so much. Why are we even there? We have so much to do here. These people need to be watching our border. And I understand, I'm on record as saying that you don't use the military as a law enforcement arm, and I'm not backpedaling from that, but they should be monitoring the border. It should be a joint venture with U.S. border Patrol and all that. And just, hey, we see somebody coming, you. You go snag them. There's no reason we can't use the military to observe and monitor and to pass on information to an internal law enforcement agency. There's no reason we can't do that, for crying out loud. I thought that's what the point. I mean, I'm being a bit tongue in cheek here, but that's what I thought the point of the Patriot act was. I mean, we all know that wasn't really it, but that's what we were sold it to be. This big means of all these huge organizations working together hand in hand to keep America safe and. Okay, well, can we. Can we have it actually do what it was promised to do? The answer is obviously not. This is just, as you said, this is just another distraction. And it's going to prove to be an extremely expensive one in one way or another, whether it be military costs and lives in just attention that's better placed elsewhere or a combination thereof. But it is going to be extremely costly.
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A
One of the things about it is, is that we're not going to know how costly because we become so much like Israel that we're going to hide how badly things are turning out. Like, so the CIA station got hit in the Saudi capital and a drone strike, Iranian missile hit the largest US Military base in the Middle East. I mean, there. There are reports out there that, and I think this is on Fox News, actually more than 650 US military personnel are killed or wounded in this retaliatory operation. I don't think we're ever going to know because they're going to want us to be like, look, this is, this is a walk in the park, so just, you know, cheer it on. And, you know, it's like, I mean, I'm not anti war. If we need to go to war for something, something that benefits us, that we're, that is actually a threat to us or is going to be a great benefit to us, you know, mostly something defensive, I have no problem with that. But I mean, we're told clearly by the Secretary of State and the speaker of the House, I mean, the third in line to the presidency, that this is a war for Israel. And I mean, sorry, I don't. Israel doesn't mean anything to me.
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C
Yeah, I cosign 100%. I, I find it baffling that, that American society found involvement in Vietnam. I mean, obviously not exactly the same people in the different times, different places, but I, I do find it fascinating that, that the American people found Vietnam, on the whole, more distasteful than they find this. It's like, I, I don't even. What, Like, I just, I'm not saying either of them are really great causes, but for goodness sake, like what? We literally have no interest in this whatsoever. I don't, I don't understand, like. Or if we want to go back further with the, you know, with the Cuban Missile crisis, that was a legitimate concern. Hey, these things are being put in our backyard. We need to worry about this because they can reach us here like that. Okay. Whether we want to say how it was handled is right or wrong, that's fine. That can be a whole other conversation. But to me, like, to go on to your statement, Pete. Yeah. There are sometimes, there are reasons to go to war. There are reasons to say, to get serious and say, yeah, that we can't allow this. We're not, we're not going to have this. But like this, I mean, if, if you had told me, I'll be brutally honest here. If you had told me, hey, Charles, I just got word that the US Navy is attacking Chinese ships at sea because they're just utterly obliterating the maritime ecosystem, the oceanic ecosystem. They're just, they're going to starve, you know, huge swaths of, of the planet with just their rapaciousness. I'd be like, okay, that's a good use of the military then. Hats off to them. They earn their 15% off at home Depot now, as far as I'm concerned, God bless him, but this we what? Like, if you want me to. If I were in charge of the military, I could think of about 50 things that are more righteous cause than this one from an American perspective.
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D
Yeah. I think this moment is the silver lining here in the Iran conflict is that it is truly power revealing itself. There's no way you could spin it that this is like a fight for, like an abstraction, like democracy or whatever. This is a fight for world Jewry, for Israel and there. And it's good because it's now waking a lot of people up to how this ethnic clique is what runs, is the sovereign, especially on foreign policy. This can also open up discussions too, about organized Jewries influence on domestic policy from mass migration, transgenderism and all and other forms of degeneracy. And I do think that in this type of crisis, there's always a silver lining and we should always try to exploit that, because it ain't over until the fat lady sings. And that's why even in struggle and in these moments of great upheaval, there is a way out. And those who are innovative and resilient will find them, find new avenues to. To break the cycle and forge a different path that we've been on.
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C
Yeah. Because as you said just now, I mean, now we. We can. They just reveal themselves and they're doing it. And you were talking about just now, Jose, with the whole. It prompts. It prompts people to ask now what else are these people involved in? And I mean, as we've passed around between us and the. Between us is here and. And us is in the larger section of the. Right. On. On Twitter and other. And other places, other platforms. You know, we've passed them. You know, they themselves, that community, them saying, hey, we're responsible for all this. I mean, it's always in a, in the, In a phrasing or in an emotive state of grievance or smugness. But it's, it's always they. They're admitting it, like, yeah, we're responsible for the Hart Cellar Act. We're responsible for civil rights. We are responsible for transgenderism. We're responsible for feminism. It's like, really cool. Thanks for telling me. I appreciate that. And I now, now I don't look like a kook blaming you now. I can just have you tell. Tell everybody that. So as you say, Jose, yeah, there are, There are silver linings to this. There are white pills. And remember, like, this is the same community that talk about the rabbi and the Golem. Like, that's just because it's true. Like they'll build these things and then they'll come back and get them. That's what it does. It's, it's what's going to happen again. And that's not even me being optimistic. Optimistic. That's just history repeating itself. It's the pattern repeating itself because they're, they're, their destruction, their, their failures are baked into the cake. Their success is baked into the cake but their failure is too. And that's just how it is. It's, they're just locked in a cycle and sadly we're locked, we're locked in it at this moment with them. But once we break away again, goes back to exile and containment. Just get away from them so you don't get locked in their self destructive cycle.
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A
Yeah, people, they just really need to, they don't need to. I ask them to wake up to that because the, you know, there are things you can do. Just try not to do business with businesses that are going to benefit them and you know, certainly do everything you can just to, you know, boycott those businesses. You know, not boycott like you're gonna go out there with a friggin placard. Although if you want to do that that's, that'd be funny. But you know, personally, just because it's gonna make you feel better, you know that because yeah, there are so many people who black pill over this and I don't black pill over this. I mean this is just, this is history. We're in a part of history now that other people have been in before and it always comes to an end. They don't win. They don't win. They can't win.
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B
Right.
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A
And I'm not even talking about, you know, that oh, there's some biblical prophecy talking about like here in, you know, on earth, they don't win. So you know, just keep pushing forward, keep doing what you can do and align yourself with people who, who are noticing the same things. You know, if your parents are, if your parents are freaking boomers and they're, you know, you know, sharing this, you don't have to friggin disown them. You know, don't do that. As soon as you disown your family, the Jews win. That's what they want. They want, they want you to be deracinated while they're not. So just, you know, do what you need to do to get through and prepare for, you know, prepare everything for the future and you know, the generation that comes next. Try to do the best you can and build something that build something that they can't touch and that I think that starts between your ears. You know, you have to build up a mentality that they, that they can't touch, that they're not going to own. And I think that's very important.
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C
Agreed. Cosine. Wholeheartedly.
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D
100%. Really? Nothing else to add? Yep.
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A
All right, let's get out of here. Jose, do some plugs, man. You've been working your ass off lately. I'm sure there's plenty of places you can point people to.
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D
Yes. So you can catch my work on sub stack. Jose Nino Unfiltered hello, it is Ryan.
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B
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D
Joseal nino.org let's go there to get my podcast and also my articles which have been much more prolific. I'm also at the Occidental observer. That's where I write more about Jewish influence. And then you get my regular takes on politics at on Twitter. Slash. Xoseal Nino Charles I don't have anything to plug.
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C
I've got a lot going on in my personal life and professional life I'm trying to sort out. But I will always say I'm always open hearing from people. You can always contact me through Twitter at Whiskey and Ashes or you're always welcome to drop me a line on Telegram at the same address. Always interested in hearing from people especially not gonna lie, especially with people say, hey, I caught you on this program and I, I like we had to say it helps me. It helps me keep going. It's not just for my ego. It's just, hey, makes me feel like I'm heard out there and it makes me feel like, like I'm. I. That at least I'm doing something for people, that I'm affecting change in whatever small ways I can. So that's all I would. I'd have to plug or to offer your audience. Pete, as always, thank you so much for having me on your program.
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A
Of course. And I'll have your Amazon page linked in the show notes. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate you. We're back. Thought Crime Syndicate. Gentlemen, how are you doing?
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C
Hanging in there, Pete. How about yourself?
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A
Doing good, Jose?
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B
I'm doing well.
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D
Pretty busy, but enjoying life.
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A
De missed you last time, man. How are you doing? Maybe De stepped away for a second.
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B
I did just. Sorry about that. It sounded like I broke something and because cats are.
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A
I love cats. Probably because I'm an. But love my fellow. Love my fellow. So you got anything on your mind? De wanted to start us off, get us going with.
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B
Well, as much as I enjoyed talking hockey, eight dollar gas is going to be a thing. Jose and I did 45 minutes on it, but I think it's worth talking about that it being Eastern, everything, right? Like everything we've dealt with for the last 30 years, politically speaking, in terms of war is just the Jews saying, give us Barabbas and decided to make war in the rest of the world. And they've done nothing but that for 2,000 years. And it's, this is, you know, between the cuts that Trump is trying to make to like, mail service in rural America and a bunch of other crap, you know, millions and millions of dollars that until you deal with the occupied government, nothing else matters. So I guess that's worth talking about. I mean, I don't know, you're probably tired of talking about the war, so if there's something else you want to talk about, that's fine with me.
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A
Well, I mean, I mean, I'll just make one comment on the war. You know, it was something I was listening. I can't remember who I was listening to today, but, you know, they're an insider and they're like, Netanyahu tried to get George W. Bush to attack Iran. He tried to get Barack Obama to attack Iran. He tried to get Joe Biden to attack Iran. And somehow the three of them, and Bill Clinton as well, the four of them said no. Said no. That's just a bridge too far. You will even bomb fucking Somalia, you know, okay, sure, why not? But it took, it took this fucking guy. This guy. And you know what, A lot of people said this before, before when he was running for president, probably Jose was one of them, said no. The reason he's going to get elected, because he's going to be able, he's going to be the excuse to do shit that is going to piss everyone off. And it certainly looks that that is, that is the way it turned out.
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B
Yeah, it's exactly the way things turned out. Right. Like no matter what he's the accelerationist candidate because the system is broken now. I mean I did did an episode of the Inquisition when you were out, Pete, with our friends Stormy and Carl Dahlia.
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D
And
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B
no matter what, like this, this president disposition is broken now because I mean guys like you and me, like the four of us were talking about Jews five years ago, right. I mean we didn't know each other five years ago but, but separately each of us were talking about Jews and their baleful influence on the society. But. Now everybody knows, right? And it's not just guys who listen to weird podcasts like this one that now know about like the fact that our government's occupied. That's the important thing, you know, is that our government's occupied. You know, if you want to call gay Satanist pedophile occupied government, I, I can't disagree with you. And that's probably why Trump got got in. You know, I mean he's, he's been importing Eastern European women for what, 50 years. I mean when did he, when did he marry Ivanka? Like in the 70s probably.
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A
Yeah, 70s or 80s, right.
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B
So I mean this, this is a guy who's, who's known vices is women. I wouldn't be surprised if the, you know, he was boy good friends with Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn was doing the same thing that Jeffrey Epstein was doing on a different scale in a different time period. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they got their hooks into him in the 70s or 80s.
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A
Yeah. And people will say, well you know, in the Epstein files. He's not in the Epstein files for anything elicit. He doesn't have to be.
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B
No, it doesn't have to be. But let's not forget that like more than likely Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad asset. So this isn't even like the first president in my lifetime that was compromised by these people. And, and Bill Clinton couldn't do it. Right. It's not like Bill Clinton's not a sociopath. He, I mean look at, you're old enough to know and remember I think probably Charles and Jose as well that what they did in Mena, Arkansas to cover up their, you know, the, like the 92 election was like two CIA connected cocaine smugglers and the crazy guy, right? Like that's, that's who was, who was running in 92 is both H.W. bush and Bill Clinton had connections too. And you know, they make a movie Starring Tom Cruise 20 years too late after it's too late to do anything about it. They'll Admit. Oh yeah, we actually were kind of smuggling cocaine with Barry Seal into Arkansas and H.W.
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A
i think I was listening, listening to Horton talk and he was saying that hw, they wanted, they were pushing him to do more than Iraq, you're right there going to Iran kind of thing. And he said no. And that's when they just decided, well, you're not going to be president. And he, they said, HW admitted afterwards, he goes, the reason I didn't become president. No, he said no. He actually said this. And Horton quoted this as, as somebody really close to HW at the time said, juice. Yeah, they don't vote for us.
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B
James Baker said them, they don't vote for us anyway. And I want to say it was the book Jewish Power where he was trying to get them just like slow down. Not, not, not, not do something in Palestine, but like slow down. Because he was trying to manage, you know, the world's a very chaotic place, the Soviet Union just fell. He was trying to manage things. And I think it was the book Jewish Power by J.J. goldberg where he talks about this, where basically Jews tanked his, you know, we can maybe say put Perot was a spoiler or because he had intelligence community connections. I don't know, maybe Perot was just genuine. Certainly Stockdale was a hero. But like. They cost him the election in 92 for sure. Like the Jews withdrew the support, got behind Clinton, used their media manipulation, you know, called him a wimp. It's like, wasn't he the youngest fighter
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C
pilot in World War II?
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B
Hadn't he been part of the CIA? How do you get, how do you, how do you get away with calling this guy a wimp? Right? And that might seem like irrelevant. You know, this guy's one term president from 35 years ago,
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A
you know, before
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B
most of our listeners were probably born, you know, I was in short pants. But this is what happened. And every president since has been some degree or other compromised by Israel. And now everyone knows. And that's the. I, I can't think of anything else there is to talk about. I know it gets tiresome to hear, you know, just constantly banging on about the Jews, but what else is there?
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A
I don't know if you, Yeah, I don't know if you heard this week I was saying that, you know, here in my small town with 2500 people, with 12 Baptist churches, a business that I frequent, the person who, you know, always takes care of me there is like a 60 year old white woman and she, this week she tried to j pill me yeah, that's awesome.
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B
If you've lost 60 year old Baptist ladies in Alabama.
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D
Yeah.
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B
You're cook.
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A
Yeah. And they are game over. Yes. I mean, they're, you know, their power is, is just slowly draining away because they rely upon, you know, they rely upon the population to protect them. They rely upon the population to look upon them as victims and to feel sorry for them. Which is always the, which is always the most ironic thing when they're like, oh, you just blame all your problems on Jews. It's like, well, where did I learn that if that's true? Where did I learn that from? It's like. And so, you know, she's like telling me, she's like, hamas takes hostages and when they release them, they're all, you know, they're fat and they've been fed. Israel releases hostages. And it looks like they were doing, they were doing medical experiments on them. And then I was like, all right, that opens the door. Okay, yeah, everything they accuse Mengele of, they do.
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B
Right. Including the prisoner rape.
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A
Yeah, we went right down. The, just went right down. You know, I mean, and this isn't. Everybody is telling me this. Everyone has contacted me to go, yeah, I mean, I went someplace and somebody tried to j pill me. It's like, well, fuck. I mean, looks like, looks like you're
- [182:11]
B
going to get to do that hockey podcast full time sooner than you thought, Pete.
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A
I hope so. But the, but you know, it's. It's also one of those things where it's like, okay, they still have a lot of wealth, they still have a lot of power still in a, you know, the Diaspora. The Diaspora is the, is the biggest problem. And it's, you know, just like it took Rome 200, 300 years to fall. It's going to take a while. We just have to be patient. We just have to keep doing what we're doing. We don't even really have to change anything we're doing. We just have to keep doing what we're doing.
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C
Yeah, I think it's interesting, D I, by the way, I appreciate you dropping my name recently on a, on a podcast where you were talking about my linking the Jews to a very spiritually feminine way of doing things. Very spiritual, feminine approach. I think it's interesting that we had the manosphere come up. I want to say, God, it's been 15, 20 years now. It's how long the manosphere has been more or less a thing, you know, with varying levels of prominence in the counterculture, but it's been a thing, I think it's interesting that we. We become aware of, as you like to say, the WQ for a while, and then quickly on its heels, we're aware of the jq. And I don't think that's a coincidence. I think one is naturally flowing into the other because once you start to see certain patterns of behaviors, you see where those pattern of behaviors begin, where they end, and where they mirror one another. So I don't really. Yeah, I don't really think it's a coincidence. And I mean, I'll just use Pete's own words. It's like, oh, well, where did I learn that? It's like, well, yeah, exactly. Where did we learn that? Where did that come from?
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B
Well, and to give you an idea, like the Game by Neil Strauss, that book came out in 2005. So that's. That's pretty much the advent of the manosphere, that book and then the associated forums that propped up around it. So we're looking at. And I know Jose's got some experience with manosphere stuff, but yeah, there was the 2005ish. That book came out. Mentions Mobug, Curtis Yarvin started writing. That's how I got my dark enlightenment. You know, I started reading Curtis in 2004. 2005, in the failed but excellent Ron Paul presidential campaign in 2008. We're kind of up on 20 years of Dave Smith did a really great show with Tucker Carlson. I think everyone should listen to that. And not that I agree with Dave or Tucker on everything, but I think they're both honest guys. And the only reason this show or anything else that we do has any cachet is like, I might disagree with Pete. In fact, I disagree with Pete about a lot of stuff behind the scenes. But the reason Pete's my friend, the reason Jose is my friend and reason Charles is my friend is none of us try to bullshit you about anything.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Has never once bullshitted me about anything. He said, I'm wrong. He said, I disagree with you. He's always been respectful and told me why. And the mainstream media lies to you about everything. They lied to you about COVID They lied to you about elections. They lie to you about the Jews. They lied about women. They lie to you about race. They lie to you about foreign policy. I like, they'll lie to you about food. Like, what don't they lie about?
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C
Yeah, I want to draw a distinction here very briefly, too. Not to, not to stop your flow here, but just to say too, like, we. We could misinform people, but there's a difference between misinform and disinform. There's lies and then there's a misinforming. Like if I tell you the wrong time, that of my doctor's appointment, that doesn't mean I lied to you. It means I'm human and I made a mistake. So this kind of draws off of what you were saying, Dee, regarding. We can have a disagreement. Maybe my perspective is skewed. Maybe I missed something that you saw. Or maybe I saw something that you missed and we disagree. That's fine, but that's not dishonesty. That's just a matter of perspective. And maybe, and maybe a human error. But nobody here is lying to anyone. Those are two entirely different things.
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B
I'll give you a perfect example. I, on a recent show, I said that there were 90 million people in Egypt, and I was wrong. There are in fact 120 million people in Egypt.
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A
Right.
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B
I was working off of old information or a number that I'd seen somewhere and gotten wrong. Okay? Happens to make mistakes. The point I was making was true. And I wasn't trying to deliberately lie to people. What circumstances know, starting in the late odds, right. The system cracks that we're showing are starting to show that some of us saw back then, you know, the catastrophic relationships between men and women. Well, I'm sorry, Like the Roush saw that in 2007. Right? Like. Like as bad as things are now, other guys saw it happening 15, 20 years ago. You know, the problems with inflation in central banks. Like guys like Pete who did the libertarian thing, they saw the problems with the economy and all the inflation that we're seeing now, they saw all that, you know, 15, 20 years ago when Ron Paul was running in 2008. And nobody who's paying attention believes the mainstream narrative anymore. And nobody who's like, if I'm constantly telling you the sky is green, right, Then my model sucks. Now, occasionally it's green, but most of the time it's blue. And then it kind of turns to orange and red and stuff during sunsets or whatever. But how can anybody constantly. When the model that you're presented as the way things work, like, there's democracy and we vote and then we get what we want. And, you know, people argue in Congress and bills get passed like, no, that's all horseshit. Like, banks buy congressmen because, you know, I mean, I'm not saying you should avail yourselves of their services, but like the gal in the skimpy dress showing some leg downtown at 2 in the morning, she's Actually, you know, selling and what you're buying is what she's selling. In Congress, they lie to you and say, oh, I'm going to work for you. I have fabulous hair and cap teeth. Vote for me. And they're working for somebody else 100% of the time with like maybe two exceptions. And then Marjorie Taylor Greene left Congress. So what? How many? Like Thomas Massie, maybe Pete, I mean, Jose, you guys pay more attention to stuff than I do. Is there anybody in Congress besides Rand Paul and Thomas Massie that are worth a damn?
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A
Well, when it comes to that, yeah. When it comes to that subject, I mean, there are some of the people on the, on the other side of the aisle that are, that will, I believe if they get power again in 2028, they, they'll push back because I think they know that they're like, their whole base doesn't like these people. I mean, well, nobody could be, I could be wrong and I could be delusional. But you know, I get the idea that the left is at this point, whatever, the Democrats, whatever you want to call them, is way more, way more, especially on the ground. And the younger politicians is way more like, screw this, we can't do this anymore.
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D
Yeah, I think like one thing that I'm noticing now, look, the Jews have gotten so desperate, especially like liberal Zionists, that they're now doing a rear guard action where they're, they are positioning themselves against apac, but they'll be supported by other like lesser known groups like J Street, which is like a Soros funded liberal Zionist outfit or some other organization that doesn't have as explicitly of a pro Jewish or pro Zionist type of branding. But that's still like functionally Zionist when you look at its political actions. And that's what they're trying to do right now. But I think that's going to end up being like I said, like a rear guard action that's not going to be able to contain this tidal wave. And I think the same thing's going to end up happening on the right because this is, this is a historical process that.
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D
Is cyclical in nature where the, the broad gentile population of a given polity eventually revolts against the organized Jewish interests that have taken power economically and politically. And this is going to manifest itself in a different way. But this is a tale as old as time itself when it comes to Jewish and gentile interactions over the course of thousands of years.
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A
Yeah, it's. To put it bluntly, we, we know how this is. We know that this is going to play out. We just don't know how this is going to play out at this point. Make sense?
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D
Yes, yes, yes.
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C
Yeah. I mean, there's, there's a reason that the, the Jewish rabbi in the Gollum story comes from, from that community. I mean, there's a reason, because it's just a truism. It may not. It may not be a European fairy tale, but it's their fairy tale. And just like European fairy tales, it's based in a reality. It's a lesson, but it's a lesson they never really seem to learn. And it goes back to what was said earlier in just this program already. They. They build these golems and they hide behind them and they use them to carry out their will. And it's a cycle. Okay, so we know how to play this game. Again, very, very spiritually feminine. We pull. We pull people in, we get them to do what we want, dance to our tune, work from our puppet strings, and then eventually it gets noticed and, and it gets turned on us. As you say, like, this is a cycle. This will. This has happened. It is happening. It will happen again. The only thing is, is how will it. How exactly the chips will fall. But I would argue that we do know how they're going to fall in a broader sense, if not perhaps the exact specifics.
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A
Right.
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B
Well, it's. It's Easter, so I've kind of got spiritual things on my mind. And there's a Catholic prayer that most people should know the glory be. You know, in Latin, it's Gloria Pachis.
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A
I don't know.
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B
Anyway, my Latin's terrible. It's. It's as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be. It's the English at the end. And that's just like, that's how it is. Right.
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D
It.
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B
It was in the beginning, like ever since they said 2,000 years ago, his blood be upon us and our children. Right. They've declared war on the rest of the world. And for the first time in history, they've lost power. And everyone's seen it all at the same time. There's no, there's no bolt hole they can go anymore.
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A
Right.
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B
They tried, I think Stormy's talked about this. Like, like they tried to go to China and that failed. They're going to try to go to India and that fail. Like, like, I, I don't think it'll, I don't think it'll work. Like, you know, India's, India's gonna, India's been five years away from being a superpower for like the last 30 years.
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D
Yeah. I mean, if you're turning to India that you're hitting rock bottom, like, that's,
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A
you'll, you, you'll, you'll get sycophancy there for them, but you're not. What are they going to build for you? What, how are they going to, what are you gonna, how are you gonna be a parasite off of them?
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C
Right?
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B
Yeah, like, it's like a tick with ticks, you know, Like. Yeah, I don't know.
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D
Yeah, you'll get poo filled gefilta fish, but like that's only, that's the best you're gonna get. Get some very like, repulsive type of cuisines.
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B
Yeah. Being holy Saturday and penitential. Like thinking of like an Indian crossed with Jewish food and just. Yeah.
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D
Vomit inducing.
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B
Yeah, Just like imagine the smells. Right.
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D
It's a WMD in of itself. And,
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B
and really, I mean, yeah, we have all this, like, why is there a birthright citizen? Why is this even a thing? You know, like, oh, the Supreme Court is gonna, like. You really think that absent like Jewish control of law schools that we would have, I mean, not just the, you know, ridiculousness of like a Jewish lesbian sitting on the Supreme Court telling Americans like, hey, your country doesn't deserve to have a future. Right? And Ketanji Brent Jackson, like a literal, a literal sitting in the Supreme Court, right? Like, does anyone seriously think that Jews weren't behind both those people? I mean, I, I know it without even thinking about it and I know that like, by the time this gets posted, someone will post in the comments, like, yeah, here's the, here's the, here's the Jew behind, you know, Katanji Brown Jackson or Sonia Sotomayor or Amy Coney Barrett or anything.
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A
Right?
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B
Like, because that's, that's who's been, you know, running our laws. And it's like, well, why is this even a question? Birthright citizenship. Why does it like this is stupid. You know, 1.1 million Chinese people have gone to the Northern Marineris Islands and given birth there. And then all of a sudden they're Americans. What? You know, like 10%.
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A
Also, if you want to destroy us, you can. But it seems like the final boss of that whole thing would be to get us into a war we can't win. You know, everybody's like, oh, you know, I don't know if anyone saw Trump's speech the other night. It was just absolutely insane. It was, I think, I genuinely think
- [197:37]
B
he's sundowning and is like where Biden was in 20, 2018, 2019, where he's clearly going senile.
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A
Well, you know, but there's two ways of going senile. There's the way that you go where, where like Biden did, where it's obvious he's not all there. And then there's that way where you're not all there but you're still belligerent, you know, where you're still just, you know what I'm talking about. You've, you've experienced this. But it's like, oh, get into this war. Iran is nothing and everything. So what happens? Like he gives this speech, which I think Daryl Cooper described it correctly. It just basically was like they put a bunch of his truth social posts up on the teleprompter and he was just reading them. I mean, it just sounded like truth social posts. And then within like the next, what, 48 hours. F15E destroyed. A10C destroyed. A10C damage returned to base. CH47 destroyed in Kuwait. F16 reportedly damaged, return to base. HH62, HH60WS damage returned to base. F16 squawk over. Over Iraq. Damage returned to base. KC135R damage returned to base. MQ9, one of one of the few
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B
EWACS planes on Earth, like radar destroyed. This is the worst, this is the worst conflict the US Air Force has been in since Vietnam.
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A
Yeah, that was all in one day. It was literally I was in a 24 hour period. And you're up there going, oh, they're so destroyed. They need to give up and they just need to come to the table. We're going to bomb them back to the stone Age, you know, And I mean, I'm not going to tell you where I might have got this information from, but I got it from a pretty good source that that missing weapon system officer is a woman. Just think about that.
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B
Yeah, I mean, that's insane. You know, I mean, God bless Joe Kent, for speaking the truth. But why are we sending mom? Why are there moms in the Air Force? Why are there moms in the US military getting deployed to go get shot at for Israel when their children are at home who need their mom? Ok, like this is insane.
- [200:07]
A
Because we become Israel. Because we have to become Israel.
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B
Yeah, yeah. And things like blowing up bridges and blowing up schools and you can, I don't know whether the school thing was a deliberate on purpose thing or not. I'd like to believe it was an accident. But we both know that the Jews would happily feed us false targeting information and blow up a school and have us help us blow up a school or have us, you know, blow up a school for them just out of spite and because they killed thousands of children in Gaza. Thousands. And they're probably, and they're, they're busy, you know, destroying Christian villages in Lebanon right now. Because for them the most important thing is while there's a war on, you know, strike while the iron's hot and then establish facts on the ground so that, you know, the northern border of Israel is the Watani river and that we can just suck that thing dry and we don't have to depend so much on, you know, decentralization plants
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D
and
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B
never mind, like they're constantly committing war crimes and they're constantly, you know, like starting shit. And you know, like Dave Smith, who I don't always agree on and you know, and is Jewish. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest here and if you're looking for some serious fun, head over to chumbac casino.com@chumba casino. You can play all your favorite social casino style games for free, anytime, anywhere. It's the most fun you can have on your phone or computer. No PURCHASE NECESSARY GROUP prohibited by law sea terms and conditions 21 plus but he made a great point. Like we're at the point now where Wesley Clark, the guy, the general who's like, yeah, we're, we're going to do the clean break memo and kill, you know, seven countries in five years. Well, like, you know, in five years from now when the, when the war with Iran is still going. Get back to me bud, about how you're going to win. We don't have the ability to win this war. We don't have the personnel that could win this war. This is not 2002 where you have a bunch of, you know, corn fed white boys who grew up in the 90s and loved America and grew up in a peaceful, prosperous society. You have a lot of very Desperate people in America. There are a lot of very unhealthy people in America. You have a lot of people who watch their brothers, uncles, dads fight in all these useless wars and they're not fucking going, dude. And if you know what, like the majority of people under, under 20 are now like non white in the United States of America. You're not getting a bunch of brown kids that you've told all their lives that like America's brown or evil because it's colonialist and white to go die in a colonialist white people war in Iran.
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C
Exactly.
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B
It ain't happening, chief.
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C
Yeah, well, I mean, this is a, this is one of the few white pills that I kept trying to bring up about what was the 2020 election. It's just like, you know, you can't get these people to vote. And I don't care what anybody tells me. It's like we learned in 2020 that all their, the overwhelming preponderance of votes from non white communities is just fraud. It's just the Democrats filling them in and putting them in there. It's not that they wouldn't vote. I'm not saying they wouldn't vote Democrat if they did vote, they absolutely would. But I'm saying they don't even get that far. They don't bother. They're not interested. You can't get these people to show up and do that kind of stuff. Not in anywhere near the numbers they claim so did for, for people to try and tell me that they're going to fight in a war and defend America, just like you're saying, and I agree with you 100%, like that's, that's just ludicrous. They're not going to do it. You can't get them to show up to vote. You can't get them to go to work half the time on time. You think they're going to fight in a war? Are you insane? And even if they did, let's go out on some huge limb and say that they will. Well, are they going to have the ability to even wage it? Are they even going to have the ability to use any of this equipment? I mean, for crying out loud, so many of these manuals are already written at like a third grade level. What, what are they going to do? It's just laughable. It's laughable in every sense of the word.
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D
Yeah, a lot of those non white troops are just already like busy committing crime like those in military bases. Because like if you look at the state of a lot of Military bases like the US they're actually like quite dangerous. And I. And there's like a good book, the Fort Brag Cartel by Seth Harpworthy. He documents how even in like more elite units that have also have seen like some of this non white demographic shift, like you see the same type of behavior there. Like they're not, they're not, they're not going to be fighting on the front lines. A lot of these people, they're just going to try to find positions, like administrative positions or just like do nothing jobs. So that gives them like cover so they can sling dope and get involved in like all other types of antisocial.
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C
Yeah, that's, that's 100% right. And I can't, I can't give absolute particulars for this or I would just to bring receipts, but I still know the people involved, so I don't want to do it. But I mean, I've, I've had guys outright tell me guys I knew in the Air Force saying, oh, they're, they're making meth on base. They're, they're, they're doing tons of stuff. Like they're using the armory, they're raiding the armory. I've known guys in the army that have told me, oh yeah, there's basically two big gangs here and there's like you said, Jose slinging dope or they're just stealing weapons or ammunition or like, oh yeah, it happens, it happens a lot. And you just have to have the right people in the right locations to, to get away with it, you know. How many rounds did we fire on the range? Well, we're going to change that number a little bit. And again, these, this isn't me making up. I've known people who've told me about it. So yeah, like if not only that, Jose, or you're familiar with Los Zetas, right? You know who they are?
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A
Yeah.
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C
Okay, well, who are Los Seitos? You want to give us the TLDR on that? Who are they?
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D
Yeah, I'm not as Ikes is authoritative on that. For what I've gleaned through some articles and videos I've listened to. They were former, A lot of them were like former Special Forces. Like, bingo. Yeah. And they were involved like Fort Braggin. Like a lot of these, A lot of these people, like, they use the, if they're able to ascend the ranks, they. It's part of like a broader type of career move where they're gonna try to pivot towards just being a career criminal because a Lot of these people there is like a pipeline of like US Military to cartel pipeline, where this to become like a sicario, like in Mexico or in Latin America. Because the US Defense community is. Has been thoroughly embedded with Latin American cartels, like from the jump. And that is like a pipeline. Like, these people, they're not there to like defend the country. They're just using that the way to get like experience with weaponry, drug smuggling and all that so they can like translate those skills and apply them. Like once they become part of like a transnational criminal outfit, like defending the homeland is, is like a very low priority for these people.
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C
Yeah. Thank you, Jose. That was absolutely excellent. That was exactly the rundown I wanted. Thank you very much.
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A
Yes, well, well, from, from what I understand is it's not only like nons doing this. There are high IQ white guys, I mean, like in, you know, in top tier outfits who are, who are doing this. And why wouldn't you. Even if you can't articulate it, you know that this, the military isn't for what you. What it's supposed to be. It's not a patriot. I mean, who's joining the military to be patriotic? I mean, that number has got to be really low. It's a jobs program.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Place to go.
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D
That's actually a really good point that Seth Harp notes in the Fort Bragg cartel that even some of these special forces guys, like some of these white guys, they were actually became more anti war after they got this disillusion with the Iraq war, in Afghanistan war. And as a result of that, they. They channel that energy to just do a lot of like, antisocial criminal activity and all of that.
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B
And you, you turn people into like violent sociopaths and you tell them that like, hey, I'm going to turn you into it. Like a violent, sociopathic killer. And you're going to be really, really good at it. And you do it for bullshit reasons and you lie to them about it and then you take away like, you show that like, oh yeah, absolutely. Like you died so that like the Epstein class can get away with killing kids in another country. Like, of course they're nihilistic. You know, you told them that it was for patriotism and for God and mom and apple pie in America and then come to find out like, oh yeah, you became this like violent sociopathic killer. And I'm not saying that's everybody, but like, with like substance abuse problems and you can't sleep and the only God we have is money. And then you're like, well, Wait a minute. Why am I, you know, sitting here, as in E7 or whatever, making, you know, less than 100 grand a year in shitty base housing when, like, I'm one of, you know, the best killers on the planet?
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C
Yes, exactly.
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B
You know, like, I have a very particular set of skills. Right. Like, what else are they going to do?
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C
Well, it's.
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B
It's.
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A
Yeah.
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C
This is agreeing and amplifying. Yes. And you also have to realize that let's. Let's even say. Let's go so far as to say everything you're saying is absolutely correct. And there is, like, what else are they going to do? What other job skills do they have to kill people and break things? That's their job skill set, and that's what they signed up to do, and that's what they were trained to do. And then they were put in a box that said, break glass in case of conflict. And then they ran out and did it. Well, now they're out of the box. And what are you going to do with them? You've either got to keep them busy or they're going to make them get
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B
back in the box.
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D
Bingo.
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B
They're the most dangerous people on earth.
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C
I would that. And that's the point. I'm just getting to D. Here's the other problem is you have now created a bunch of wolves in a land of sheep, right? And now, like, what are they? What do you think they're going to do? They're like, well, hey, I can gobble all of you up, no problem. I see how soft and flabby and nobody can fight. And very few people can fight anymore or even even complain about the meal they got. They're too afraid to start a conflict. And you're going to put these people out in public, like, of course they're going to want to start gobbling everybody up. Why wouldn't they? Just see, it's like, this is. This is a land ripe for picking. I put this out on Twitter recently, and I think about it a lot, and I can't even tell you the show it's from because all I've ever seen is just. This is just the meme from it. And it's this man looking at this woman who taken a punch to the face and he says, you will not survive here. This is a land of wolves now, and you are not a wolf. And I think about that a lot because this is what we are coming into, and this is what people are failing to understand. They are failing to understand that the dominoes I wrote about this. God, what is it now? D. Fifteen years ago, I wrote this article where I said, you know, your civilization has already collapsed. All of your. All of your institutions have already collapsed. You just don't notice it yet because it's one big row of dominoes. You ever see them when you were younger? They're still on YouTube now where these people make these big intricate diagrams out of dominoes and they tip one and you watch them all fall in these different patterns. Well, that's your civilization. That's your church. That's your government. That's your social fabric. That's your family unit. That's all of that.
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But if you don't see it yet, that's probably because the domino on your left and the domino on your right are still standing. But I solemnly assure you, and I'll use our Lord and Savior's words, I solemnly assure you that the dominoes beyond those have already fallen and they're gonna. And the ones on your left and right are going to be teetering soon. So that's what. That's one of the reasons that, like, I'm not surprised by any of this and why that I say, if you think these people are going to fight for. For, you know, God, mom, and apple piece, you're insane. Because I wasn't even trained to be some badass. I wasn't even some socio. Sociopath, okay? They gave me a gun and they trained me how to use it pretty well, okay? But I've never claimed to be any big badass. And look what they did to me. They disabused me of that notion. Now, have I, you know, broken federal laws or gone against the government violently? No, I haven't. But it's obvious to anybody who's listened to me since my dismissal 20 years ago that I obviously am not their friend anymore. We'll just say that. So what do you think a lot of other people have done and what do you think a lot of these people do now? Like that, that just say, hey, okay, well if everything's falling apart, I'm just going to gobble up the sheep.
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B
Well, like I'll give you a perfect example and that's Sean Ryan. Sean Ryan is a former Navy seal, former CIA guy. Know he got bored and got into a bunch of drugs and stuff he shouldn't have. He, his family kind of pulled him out of that. He's furious. You know, he's. And, and you can say that it's probably an op that, that the CIA was like, we need somebody with some credibility to get into this podcast. Baser. We're screwed. But he's constantly talking about like kids getting trafficked and you know, he's mad about the EP stuff. I don't know if he's genuine or not.
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A
There's there, there is a. I, I, I know this, I've been told this. I believe it. There is a faction within the CIA that is just absolutely sick of the Mossad and they just want their CIA back.
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B
Right, well, and, and another example of someone like that would be John Kiriakou, right? Like he's former CIA and he went to prison for whistleblowing about the torture program. And you know, he's talked openly about how Mossad will like take Americans dogs and like torture your dog just for shits and giggles in Israel. Like. And oh, Tucker's CIA. His dad was CIA. Like, okay, so what? Yeah, you know, you know what? Wasps have mafias too. If you went to a nice school, it was the CIA. If you were a low, low, low class shit kicker hill ability like me, guess what? It was the klan that was a WASP mafia in 1957. Okay, it doesn't matter what like what their affiliations are now. Are they telling the truth and are they, you know, not lying about the most important issue in, in front of us, which is like our government is occupied by Israel. Like the only sexually normal person to sit in the oval office in the last three decades is George W. Bush. And he was a dry drunk. There might be some sort of awful weird thing. I mean, Pete, when did you know Obama was gay?
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A
The first time I saw him walk.
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B
Okay, yeah, but like when did you read stuff like, oh, this, this, this dude is as queer as a three
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A
dollar bill when he spoke at the 2000, 2004 convention?
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B
Yep.
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A
DNC convention. Yeah.
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B
Jose, what about you
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D
repeat that again?
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B
When was the first time you like like when were you like this, this dude is gay like Barack Obama. When, when did you strongly suspect?
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D
I would say probably during the campaign trail. Yeah, like just so 2007 and Charles
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B
probably at the same time.
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C
Yeah, I would say I was going to give the same answer Jose did. Probably around 2007 as well. Where I would, where I would put it at. Yeah.
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B
Okay, so the three of us all knew that or four of us all knew that like Obama was gay like 15 years ago at a minimum. And it's basically come out in the news that the dude was gay and not a huge story. Like, wait, what? What? Like, like, like the President of the United States was sexually blackmailable because he was gay in 2008 and that Trump probably was also blackmailable. I don't know to what extent. Like he's, you know, whatever weird stuff he's gone up to, I don't know. But like Bill Clinton blackmailed by Mossad, You know, who knows with Bush just kind of sociopathic and something seriously wrong with him. Like this is the healthiest people, of course, like the Sean Ryan's or the Tucker Carlson's or whoever else is, or the John Kiriaku are upset like their kids can't live in America. There's no jobs. I was talking with someone recently, last couple days, who's a high ranking academic and has spent a lot of time in the educational system at the higher ed levels. And we're sitting there drinking a beer and talking about stuff and he was like genuinely worried. He's like all the stuff that I got my start in, you know, like my teaching assistant job, my grading papers job, my, you know, whatever, that's all going to be done by AI. Where's. How is someone going to replace me in 15 years when like they need, how is the person who needs that first step on the ladder going to like progress to where they get to me without being a rich kid in the year in 2026. And the answer is a lot of those jobs are gone because AI is going to take them or foreigners are going to take them. Right? And this is on purpose. You know, white men have been replaced in the labor market by women and non and foreigners and AI on purpose. Well, somebody did that and I guarantee, I guarantee you sure as we're sitting here that if you do the math and find who was responsible, it'll be Jews. Not to defend the Quakers or homosexuals or women or any other group of people because they're all awful.
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D
But
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I guarantee you if you find the party most responsible for the destruction of white men's ability to make a living. There's going to be a Jewish hand behind it.
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I mean, it's. At this point, it's just so obvious as. As you read through, like, 200 years together, or as you like, Daryl's latest episode, Episode two of Enemy the Germans war.
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Oh, outstanding.
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Oh, I mean, that's. That's one of the most brutal things I've ever listened to. And I mean, there's a reason. There's a reason why. And he didn't even get into, like, Hungary in that. He didn't even get into Bella Kun. That's the next episode. I mean, there's a reason why. They were like, okay, we have a. We have a Jew. We have a Jewish issue here.
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Right?
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That we have to deal with.
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Right. And the no Kings protest. Who's behind that? Jews.
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Oh, yeah, the two, like, leaders of the. What's that? Indivisible.
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Yeah, they're Jews.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, like, you. I mean, you just go. They put videos on YouTube. Just go look at them. Listen to them. You've heard. We've heard this all before. Yeah, we've heard this revolutionary all before. That's why you. That's why you. You can't not talk about it anymore.
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So.
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Because it's so obvious, and it's so obvious that, like, normies are seeing it.
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Like, people who.
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People who were brought up in an environment to be like, oh, the Jews are God's people. They're Christians and waiting, you know, yada, yada. Now people are just like, holy hell.
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Old ladies in Alabama, they just murdered
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tens of thousands of people in 4K. And then they say they did it because they're victims. Okay, where do you want me to go with this?
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Well, and to your point about murdering a bunch of people and then claiming they're victims, like, right. Dave brought this up on his show with Tucker. If anybody else tries that, right? If young white men go to Ben Shapiro and say, like, man, I can't find a job. I can't get a girlfriend. I can't find any hobbies. What does Ben Shapiro say?
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Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
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Quit whining.
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Leave. You're not. You're not entitled to anything. If you. In a town where your ancestors settled there 400 years ago, you may have to leave and go somewhere else. But, you know, don't expect handouts. That's only for Israel and the Jews, right?
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D
Well, yeah.
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Well, it's like, you know, I mean, Pete, you and I have talked about this separately, but I know, like, all four of us were, like, given the whole, like, you're a special boy stuff in school as kids, right? Like, you're smart. We want to, you know, we want you to do stuff. Were you given free college or did you have to pay for it?
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I finished paying college last year.
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In your 50s?
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Yeah. Huh. And, and our right in Israel, if you're the equivalent of, of Charles or Jose or Pete, who's like, everyone notices. Wait, like, this guy's in fifth grade. And in third, fourth, and fifth grade, he topped it. You know, topped out in the top 1% or top 2% of, you know, he's in 98th or 99th percentile in everything in his standardized tests. Let's get this kid, you know, like, let's get this kid moving. Let's get this kid some resources.
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Let's help this kid out on this, on this story. I'll. I'll tell it now. I've never, I've never told it publicly because I wanted to respect this guy's privacy, but I'm sure it's been so long now. It's been 40 years. I'm sure he's either dead or long since retired, so I'll say it. When I was getting out of high school, I come from. I come from a very modest, lower middle class background, as we know from my, My history with Pete. I. My father was a public school teacher. We talked about that in race war in high school. So we didn't have a lot of money. I went to the. I went to the state college. My grades were good, so my mom and my dad packed me up. We went to the state college not too far from where I lived, and we went in to see the financial aid officer. It was a white guy, so that'll tell you how long ago this was. I still remember this like it was yesterday. We walked in, he was very polite, shook my dad's hand, shook my mom's hand, said hello, brought me in, shut the door behind us, went to his desk, and before he even sat down, he said, look, if you tell anyone I said this, I'll deny it, but you're white, you're middle class, you're getting nothing. I still remember that to this day. It has.
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And it was 30 years ago or more.
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Closer to 40.
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Yeah, right.
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Closer to 40. So this is why, like, I really just try and keep my mouth shut on Twitter when a lot of the younger generations are like, oh, you don't get it, old man. It's like, bro, this has been a problem for 60, 70, 80 years. Like you, you don't. This is way older than you think it is that you're just seeing the rot now. It's just noticeable. But a fish rots from the head and tail first. If you were from the coasts, you saw all of this long ago. So yeah, I'll give the floor back to you. D. I just wanted to say, because that was extremely pertinent to your point.
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And again, who was behind that? It wasn't Episcopalians. Like, I don't know, Pete, you tell me. Am I, am I barking up the wrong tree here?
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Well, I mean, I've. I've read enough books with the receipts to see that, you know, once they got control of this country, that it was it. You know, it's like Thomas says, we live in a social engineering regime. The regime has been for the last hundred years about social engineering. And it really kicked up after, after World War II. And if you are going to have a social engineering regime where you are going to turn people into deracinated cogs in your machine, you're going, I mean it be. Once your eyes are open to that, you just can't unsee it. All you have to do is go to the authoritarian personality and read the authoritarian personality and look at the five authors and look at the early life on four of them. And then they have their Shabboskoi with them. I mean, it's. Anyone who's denying this at this point is just. Is blunt. I can understand not wanting to talk about it because that comes with. I mean, you know, it really pisses me off when a bunch of people online who are anonymous, who are anons, are like talking about the Jews all day, but then somebody who is like there with their legal fucking name who is like hesitant to, you know, make this the whole center of what they're talking about. And they're like, oh, well, you're a sellout. You're anonymous on the Internet. Why are you anonymous on the Internet? Because you're scared, right?
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B
Because you're not, not, not without reason that, you know, like Mossad might accidentally.
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No, I understand. I understand completely. But those of us who are out here, yo, using our fucking legal names. How about you fucking lay off?
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B
Well, and that's why I think everyone's got to be really careful Attacking people like Tucker doesn't go far enough. Aaron doesn't go far enough. Dude, Aaron works for Glenn Beck, ok?
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He doesn't even work for Glenn Beck. I mean, Glenn Beck doesn't even. He sold his controlling interest in that thing. I mean, it's just. That's not Oren's concentration. If you want to hear someone talk about the Jews on the Blaze, go. Jason Whitlock is on the Blaze. He's had E. Michael Jones and Kevin McDonald on his show. Okay. Yeah. How many people know that E. Michael Jones and Kevin McDonald have both been on the Blaze network? Oh, I'm going to be mad at Oren because it wasn't Oren who did it. Well, go fuck yourself. That's not his. That's not his wheelhouse. There are other people out there doing this.
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Well, and as one of the guys who was, you know, I mean, granted, I'm anonymous, but, you know, I've been in the game a long time and a show I was on that's most famous that I did got like 4,000 listens. It was not impressive. Like yourself gets way more reach, Pete. Thing is, we were like the Velvet Underground. Like, me and Thomas are the Velvet Underground of like racist right wing podcasters. We. We don't have that many fans, but the fans we do have, everyone pays attention to. I don't care, man. Like when, when 60 year old grandmas are like, you know, this is really bad. Like, I'm like, great. I want to do, I want to do a podcast about like historical bridges, like who built them and out of what materials and like, you know, like, if I had, if I had my druthers, I would do like a YouTube show about like cool infrastructure. And I do the whole, like, here's who built it and find, you know, Ken Barnstale, like, do this, zoom in on the, on the guy who built it and talk about the project and why it was cool and what was important about it and do a bunch of pictures about the Erie Canal or, you know, the Great North Union Pacific Railroad or the, you know, particular bridges. I mean, like, if legit, if I had my dream job,
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it would be
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to go to cool projects and like explain them to people and why they were cool. That would be like my dream job. Go to the Hoover Dam and like, do a full hour on the Hoover Dam, two hours, something like that. Get into the nerdy details about how, like, how cool the bridge was and how the forces, like the structural engineering behind it and how that was cool and whatever, like that kind of stuff. That would be what I would want to do. If I could do any, any, any content creation. I can't. Not because it's not possible, but because I've done this stuff. If I was to come out and just be like, hi. Someone would recognize my name. I'd be doxed. I'd be fired. I'd lose the show and they would still control my country. And so no matter what I would do in 20 years, there's not going to be, you know, a Hoover Dam because some allow me to complete type guy is going to mess up the, you know, computer and break the damn thing. So I got to be here. If my kids are going to have a future, I got to be here. I got to be on Thought Crime Syndicate. And I'm grateful that you give me the opportunity, and I'm grateful for your friendship and everything. But until these people are driven from power and they can't get us into these insane wars that benefit us in absolutely zero way, there's no, like, what else is there to talk about? You know, Virginia. Virginia is going to lose their gun rights. Because Jews didn't want the, you know, the uppity goyim close to their center of power to have the ability to push back because they got scared when there was that one rally in Richmond and they're like, oh, we could get pushback. So we're going to arrange things in Virginia so that. Tyler reddick here from 2311 Racing. Game night's fun until someone spends five minutes lining up one shot.
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You lose. Never mind the history, never mind the culture, never mind the people. They just get to lose.
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Well, this ties back into how the show started, really. And I mean, it's sort of a full circle in that we keep banging these same drums and we'll stop. As a matter of fact, I'll speak for myself and I'll speak for ud because you just said it. I don't have to really speak for you. I'll just say that. But, yeah, we'll stop. Hell, we want to stop. Absolutely. Let's talk about something else. But we can, because this is what's true now. When something else is true, we'll be happy to talk about that. But until then, we have to talk about what's true. And this is it.
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One thing that I've learned in the last, especially since this, I would say probably since the Iran thing last year, last June, is that people are either in complete denial, the people who don't see it, who don't want to address this, or they're making excuses for it actively, or they're benefiting from it. From it in some way. And I don't know how you can talk about anything else. I mean, there's, I mean, there are reports coming out that like, double the amount dead and wounded have been. Are being reported. So they're basically hiding numbers. They are, you know, you know, they don't want to talk about, you know, that probably the only reason they even reported on planes going down is because that's kind of hard to hide. But also it's going to give them an excuse to escalate. And at this point, the escalation, in my opinion, is basically just to destroy the country even further. If you destroy, if you embarrass the military, our military, which, let's face it, our military is not designed to fight a war in Iran. It's designed to fight proxy wars in Vietnam. It's still fighting. You know, Thomas says they're still fighting the Cold War. You, you can't. You know, Iran is one of those places. It's like the graveyard of empires. The only time, the only time the Persians have lost wars is when they've gone trying to expand their empire. They've gotten their ass kicked a bunch of times trying to do that. And then they learned and like, yeah, we're not going to do that anymore. But it also comes down to the fact that Iran has won. Iran's the big. Iran finances Hezbollah and the Houthis and Hamas. Yeah. Whose enemies are, who's, whose enemies are those? Iran has one enemy. If the United States wasn't joined at the hip, if it wasn't an occupied government, if it wasn't a Zionist Jewish occupied government, Iran has one enemy. And they would have destroyed them already. It wouldn't be a problem. The only reason Israel exists as the psychopathic nation that it is right now is because they occupied us. And I heard somebody say today, I was listening to someone talking. They're like, they were talking about boots on the ground and everything. And I know people are saying boots are on the ground aren't going to happen, but maybe not in any mass mobilization, but they'll probably try something Special forces related. And this person said, and when American troops go in there. And I was just like, I'm screaming because I'm like, you Said American troops. You didn't say this Coal. You know, the coalition, the, the partnership of the United States and Israel. Why? Because Israeli troops don't fight. Don't send their. They don't send their troops to fight with us. They never have. In all the terror wars, they never did. Iraq, Afghanistan.
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No. They aided ISIS in Syria.
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ISIS bombed. ISIS had a rocket go off course and land in Israel. And they publicly, they went on TV and they went in the newspaper and they apologized. ISIS is just another cutout
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for the
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Zionist occupied government here and Israel. You know, another thing I heard Darrell say today, which I thought was really interesting. He was recalling the Molly Ball article after the election in 2020 that said, you know, they, where they, they admitted that they had to have this vast conspiracy to make sure that the one
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in time that says that they fortified the election and that they.
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Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah. And what it should, you know what they said in there basically was these protests, like these on the ground protests, the antifa. All these things. They can turn them on and off. After the election in 2020, we didn't know who was president for about five days. They said that they were going to protest if we didn't know. If they didn't know that night, they didn't. They admitted that they can turn it on and off. Daryl made a great point. He's like, look, he goes white. You have all of these terrorist groups surrounding Israel. Why aren't they like going to checkpoints and blowing things up? Why aren't they going in? How come they're not doing terrorist attacks against, against Israel? He said, he, he said what if ZOG controls them too and they can turn that on and off. Looks like you, when you think about it and you pay attention, you're like, you know, probably fucking true, dude.
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D
There's even one paper I saw that it got a lot of attention towards the end of 2016. It's from like the Begin Sadat center for Strategic Studies. It's like a Israeli think tank. It's quite literally titled. It's by an Israeli professor. It's titled the destruction of Islamic State is a strategic Mistake. I mean come on now there people just don't get this. These, all these so called terror groups are just golems that are directed by the. By us Real, the Judeo American axis. Like these are not right organic movements whatsoever.
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I can't remember. I think it was Tucker who talked about the Official history of 911 or the, of the. No, it might have been. I can't remember if it Was Darryl or somebody, Somebody smart and well put together, talked about? Actually, no, it was my friends over the American Sun. They talked about the official bin Laden raid, right? Like Bin Laden was down, down the street from the Pakistani West Point. Like literally down the street. You really think that, like the United States went in to their West Point with helicopters and gunships and a bunch of Navy seals and killed a bunch of folks and shot a bunch of people with no awareness whatsoever? And no, like, oh, hey, there's a bunch of gunfire going off right next to their military academy and nobody knew a thing.
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Yeah, Zero Dark Thirty was written by the CIA.
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Yeah, of course it was.
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I mean, I mean, come on, anyone who saw that movie knows that that's not right.
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B
And there's the Netflix that had a like, miniseries that just came out that was the occasion for him to talk about it. And so this, right, this no Kings protest was put together by Jews. And I'll give you an example of like a non organic thing that shows just how successful these sorts of things can be. Charlottesville. Now, I knew most of the guys speaking at Charlottesville or were supposed to speak at Charlottesville at the time, which is not a hard thing to do. I'm sure, like all of you guys have interacted at one point or other with a lot of the guys that were supposed to speak there. Especially if you're active Twitter, it's not that hard. But like sub 5000 white guys showed up to like protest their displacement and destruction of their culture and the entire society freaked the out. There were movies, there was TV shows, there was commercials, you know, the governor of Virginia. So this one thing that they didn't control, a couple thousand white boys get a little motion and all of a sudden it's the end of the world. And everyone's getting sued and people are losing payment processors and we're getting kicked off of YouTube. And you know, it's, it's all nonsense and, and you know, screw YouTube for kicking Pete off. But like, Contrast that with like, oh, here's this like violent communist, or maybe not violent, but like, certainly communist flavored massive organization that can get tens of thousands of people out on the street and they get nothing. They get to keep their YouTube channels. They don't get to get doxed. They don't get fired. Why not? Why were there a bunch of feds at J6? You know, why did the one person who got killed at J6? I mean, people died, I guess, but the one person was shot, right? Like you get medals for shooting that Lady. But, like, it just doesn't make any sense other than, like, this. The intelligence services, the, you know, the military industrial complex, the Pentagon, whatever, they're. They're all the same entity. They're all the occupying force of the government. They're all putting their thumb on the scale. That's the only thing that makes any sense.
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It's. It's hard to. I think one of the biggest problems that people have is that they just don't. Once they recognize all this, they just don't know what to do. I have interviewed and talked to, privately talked to people who were at Charlottesville, and the question I always ask is, why do you think you could get away with this? Was it because Donald Trump got elected? Did that give you some confidence? And I don't know that they've ever been asked that question before, but they basically say, yeah, yeah, that's. We thought the tide was turning. Even when the tide is turning and the tide is turning now, you know, as far as more and more people just realize, more in occupied go, more in occupied government,
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the
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now's the time. You really just have to be careful, you know, And I think that people should also realize that if you have to be careful, everybody has to be careful. And just because somebody has a platform, you know, and has, you know, talks to thousands of people and tens of thousands of people, you know, that doesn't. They're not insulated. So, you know, just. I think it's probably the most important reason I tell people to organize with other people. No matter who it's through. You don't have to do it through the Old Glory Club or anyone like that. You know, you don't have to be. You can go start your own thing. It can be completely local. It could be through your church. Just, you have to get with other people and you have to have a contingency plan for if things get worse. I mean, we started off. You started off talking about how, you know, I mean, we could get oil if this escalates anymore. We could get oil at, you know, $200 a barrel. And, you know, we're seeing the oils at $112 a barrel now, but that doesn't mean anything. Oil is selling. Actual oil is selling for $141 a barrel. So those are oil futures. It's not what oil. What oil is actually costing in real life today. You have to be prepared. You have to figure out what you need, what the people around you are going to need. And then if you pull your resources, you can. You can weather this because people have weathered worse before. I mean, we're not Orthodox Christians. Russians in 1917 in Russia. We're not there yet. But this isn't the worst anybody's ever had to. Ever had to put up with.
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Were you there in 73, Pete? Do you remember 73, the oil crisis?
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A
I don't. Yeah, I don't remember. No.
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Okay.
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I mean, I remember like 7. Like the Carter years, like 76 through 7 through 2000 and like 79. More. More so than what my. My dad going and, you know, trying to find a gas station that had gas and gas that wasn't really expensive at that time, which was probably, if it got close to a dollar, that was like hella expensive at that time. But, yeah, it's. You just. You're going to have to figure something out. You know, there's not everybody. I don't think most of the people who are listening to this are wealthy people can go out and buy a, you know, endless amounts of deep freezer, you know, deep freezers and stock up and, you know, have standby generators and all sorts of things. So you're going to have to just figure it out. You're going to have to figure it. You can't do it alone. You got to figure it out with other people. And, you know, that is really the future is collectivism and you got to find your. The people that you. That you collectivize with. Individualism is just a lie taught to you by libertarian Jews. Sorry. It's the truth. Go look at. Go. Go look at the most famous. The famous ones.
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Yeah.
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Murray Rothbard.
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B
Ayn Rand.
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Ayn Rand. Lydia Comises. Um. Although. Although I have a soft spot in my heart for. For. For Mises and for Rothbard, because Rothbard was really good on a lot of things. But, you know, there were. There was also stuff that. Yeah, Hoppett does the same thing. I think Hop is probably the, you know, the libertarian. I would. Person who calls himself a libertarian that I would agree with the most. But, you know, he still promotes free markets and stuff like that, so.
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Yeah, well, I. I prefer Murray unreached. Unleash the Police on the rioters in 1992. Rothbard versus the man owning himself. Murray Rothbard. But.
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And I prefer the m. I prefer the Mises who worked for. Do. Worked for the fascist government of Dolphus in Austria.
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B
Yeah, yeah. But like, I don't know, I'm just a guy bloviating on the Internet. So, you know, take that for that in a. That and five bucks Good. Chick up coffee, I guess. But again, like, not me, not Charles, not Jose. It's certainly not Pete. We're not trying to you. So, you know, like, I'll close with the same thing I say every time. Support people. Don't lie to you. You know, buy Charles's book. Like, subscribe to Jose substack. Subscribe to Pete. You know, because we're the only, like, yeah, Pete and I did the joke April Fool's thing for hockey, but, you know, we're the only people who aren't gonna. Who are gonna tell you, like, okay, this is the way $8 gas is gonna affect your life. You're gonna have to think about things like, is your sheriff's department if you live rural? Like, is your sheriff's department gonna be able to even come get. Get you if gas is $7 a gallon or $8? You know, they might only be able to be. You're in your neck of the woods, like, once a week, is the school bus going to show up? Things like that. And the only reason, you know, we can see farther is because we don't. We don't lie to people about stuff. You know, women aren't men, Race is real, Jews are not white people. That might all seem like, like, simple stuff to you, and it is. But 90 of everybody else out there, they've been told opposite for years, and they still kind of believe it, a lot of them.
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Yeah. Yeah. I think we should. Should probably start getting out of here. I know Charles has a hard app and everything, so. Charles, go ahead, do promotion. Wrote anything you want.
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Okay.
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C
Thank you, Pete. First off, as always, thank you so much for having me. I really do appreciate it. It's always good to talk with you fellas. Second off, I'm hoping to start once I get my life a little bit more in order after my recent debacle with immigration for the second time, I'm going to try and start being a little more prolific, I think working on a second book, I don't want to talk to you. Our third book, rather. I don't want to talk to much about it just yet, but it is slowly coming together. As far as one last thing, I really do want to say I want to thank everybody in your audience, Pete, that's reached out to me. After I said, please feel free to reach out. I got a few very kind, very loving messages. And it is. It was a tremendous help. So to those of you that reached out, I say a very sincere and a very warm thank you. It was a ray of sunshine. And otherwise dark past couple months. So thank you all for for your kind words. I do appreciate it. Everybody stay well and I will pass the floor to the next gentleman. God bless.
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Let's say thank you again for having me on, Pete. And it was a pleasure talking with Charles NDE as always. And yeah people could follow me on on X Twitter at Jose Al Nino and also my sub stack Jose Nino unfiltered if you want what to join my live stream where you have like the power to ask me questions about like the latest like developments on politics. Become a paid. You can become a paid subscriber to my substack@josealnino.org and I'm also writing at the Occidental observer and the Libertarian Institute for with regards to a lot of foreign policy and other stuff dealing with Zionism and organized Jewry.
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Yeah, it feels like we just talked a couple days ago.
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B
Yeah, maybe.
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All right, thank you. Good night. Gentlemen. The Thought Crime syndicate is back. While we wait for dark enlightenment to show up. He's much like Karl Dahl, he runs late a lot. Going to have to do a credit check on him and see if his credit score is maybe that the same as a non because he seems to be on CP time.
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Yeah, like on med time. Could be a secret med.
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Oh. So Charles, how you doing?
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Well, thanks Pete. Yourself.
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You and Jose doing good? Jose, how you doing?
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I'm doing fine.
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What's, what's new, Jose? Tell us something new.
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Well, I, I want to talk about the birthright citizenship ruling, which is just another sign of how useless the US political system is for activism to restrict immigration when you can have just unelected judges continued to maintain the mass migration agenda. And you now have like typical Republican grift cycle commencing where they're saying like oh, now we just need to pass Like a constitutional amendment, blah, blah, blah. Despite the fact that you actually look at the Republicans in Congress, as I've documented in time over various articles, there is enough votes there to kill any meaningful immigration restriction legislation. This should serve as like another wake up call to people about how broken the system is and how they need to rethink some of these Republican entries, strategies that have been promoted over the last few decades. And we need to look at some more like unique ways of putting political pressure and bringing about political change.
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Well, I think one of the things there is that, you know, the Supreme Court upholds, you know, the 14th amendment, what, how it's been, how it's been decided up until now. And then, you know, people make excuses and they're like, oh, well, you know, we don't worry, we can just do a constitutional amendment. What do you think would be easier? Judges that Trump appointed and a Supreme Court that you're supposed to have six to three if you're a Republican or getting a constitutional amendment, which is what, 2/3 or 3/4? I mean, I don't, I can't remember.
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D
Yeah, it's like two thirds. Yeah, it's like a super majority. Yeah, yeah, it's like a super majority. Like both chambers of Congress and then like the, or like the state legislatures. Like, I mean like that's just not happening in the US and the present state.
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A
Man.
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D
Yeah, the numbers aren't there.
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C
Yeah, correct. Absolutely. The numbers definitely aren't there. And as you say, it just goes to show just the complete backwards nature of everything that all these systems in place just seem to, it's long stop being a system of checks and balances, but just a power struggle. One side seems to be hell bent on losing by its own poor decision making as far as who is, who it's placing into the other positions. It just, that's just how it seems to have been going for what now, 60 years, 70 years, maybe even longer.
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A
I think it's also a good reminder that, you know, these judges, even the Supreme Court judges don't come without strings. I mean, they are, they're promoted, they're put in their position by somebody just like a politician and whoever. Everybody's like, oh, Amy Comey Barrett's doing this because she has a Brown, you know, she's adopted Brown kids or she's, you know, she's down with Catholic Charities.
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C
No.
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Who owns her? Who brought her up through the, who got her to that point? No one gets to a point like that. I mean, like nine of the most powerful people literally in the world. In the country, but also in the world.
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D
Bootstrapping themselves.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what. They went in there, they just gave a firm handshake and looked them dead in the eye and said, I want to be a Supreme Court judge. No, they're owned by somebody.
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D
Yeah. Or they, they jump like through the right hoops and like, they signaled the right way. Like there's, there's always, like there's going to always be a gigantic asterisk behind, like, their resume there. They did something to. They have, they held certain views or they've been blackmailed or whatever. There's no honest career path to go to the top there.
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C
Well, I mean, just to kind of say yes. And to your point, Jose, like, even, even, even if we want to take the most charitable interpretation, they still have to be vetted by, by inordinate number of people. It's not just one per. Yes, I understand. Maybe one person makes an important decision here, but the path from the bottom to this level is not, as you know, as you pithly and rightly pointed out, Pete, not a firm handshake and look them in the eye. There is a long, arduous pathway from one to the other. And that's again, in its most charitable interpretation. That's still an awful lot of cocktail parties one has to attend. That's an awful lot of charity dinners one has to attend. That's an awful lot of doors one has to go through and be vetted. Hey, you know, Pete likes this guy, so he, he gets to move on to Jose. Jose gets to. Likes this guy and he gets to move on to De. Etc. Etc. That's, that's how this works. I don't have to tell you fellas that, but it's. And you, as you said, it's a lot of. None of this comes without strings. And there's a string to every one of those people. And that's what causes all of these types of things. It's why you can't. These. No, one can just say, oh, well, this individual will vote X way or Y way. You don't, you don't know whose hands they had to shake and what strings are attached to their path up here that they have to pay back, what reciprocity they have to engage in, if that makes sense to everybody.
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A
Yeah, I mean, the same people who will tell you be like, oh, Jewish power and AIPAC and string pulling and everything, what they somehow think that some Supreme Court judges in the same boat of being influenced by. I'm not saying they're all influenced by Jews. I mean, I don't, I don't. Yeah, I mean, I know for a fact right now, like in the CIA and in the Pentagon, there are large factions that are like completely fucking done with Israel and like, would decouple tomorrow if they could. But I mean, this is what happens when you have, you know, when you have not only a democracy, but you also have diaspora politics and multiple diaspora politics. You have competing, competing factions. And the faction that's been here the longest, you know, the heritage American faction is the one that gets always. The heritage faction is always going to get. You see that through history, wherever anyone has had to deal with the aspera politics, whether it be Germany, whether it be, you know, when you look at France now and you look at. Yeah, I mean, this is, this is what it is. And you know, to say that that's, you know, I can just head this off like right away because I was looking at some of the old exit comments on my sub stack. You know, when people, when people unsubscribe from substack, they can leave a comment. 99% of the time they don't, but every once in a while they do. Well, I just can't take the black pilling. It's like, what have I said that's black pilling? National politics isn't going to solve this, so you got to figure something else out. So the only reason you think that that's black pilling is because you think national politics is the answer. And you're like, still, you still have, you know, you're still choking on Trump, you know.
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D
Yeah, I think, yeah, you have to, in the political game, you have to engage and operate within the realm of reality and sometimes provide harsh reality checks to people that this method that you've tried for multiple decades is just not cutting it. We have to. A different strategy does not mean you give up. But some people. Yeah, yeah, exactly like, but for some people, because they become very emotionally attached to certain strategies, tools and other methods, they treat it almost as if it's like we're giving up. No, it just means we're just changing the strategy. We're still in the game. We're still in the mix. Like me telling people that give up would be like saying like, you need to check out politics altogether. Like work on yourself, do like self improvement, like self help bullshit like that, that's giving up. But like changing your strategy is a different story. You're, you're just acknowledging that there is a different political reality in front of us in the 21st century and we just have to adapt to it.
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C
I'm going to disagree with you slightly Jose, but not perhaps not in the way many would expect. I would say that even if you you were to say, okay, disengage with politics entirely. There is no political solution. Just start getting into shape, you know, physically. Take care of yourself. Learn. Learn a self defense skill.
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I I still wouldn't even call that giving up. Like that's just yet another strategy. Go use Homestead or whatever. I think that's what's the most bitterly ironic about people leaving comments like, oh, this black pills too much or this black pill is too much. Blackpilling is when we just say just give up, just lay in a hole and die. Or just start drinking, just smoke weed until your brain rots. None of us have ever sat here and said anything of the sort. We are always trying to say, okay, we may throw cold water in your face, but we're also telling you the suggestions that we offer, the alternative methods to solve things. And even if you can't solve huge issues, national issues, global issues, yourself, we do try and provide some ways to approach them, to grapple with them, or to at the very least to cope with them. There's nothing wrong with a coping mechanism, contrary to what that tired and well worn insult cope is. So I would, I would say, like I said Jose, I would say even if you were to say that, my argument would simply be that's just yet another form of dealing with an issue you're still not giving up, you're just taking yet another attack at maybe a different level, but just another tech.
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B
I apologize for being on cpt, gentlemen.
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A
I've already made reference to you being on CP and that we may need to check your credit score.
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B
It was actually an appointment that ran long that couldn't be avoided. But no, it's to Charles's point about cope, right? What are you gonna do, right? Do you just blow your brains out? Do you just drink till you can't see straight every night?
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C
Like
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B
us telling you things are as bad as they are is not some, like, oh, Pete, just black pills? Like, no, Pete is being honest with you. I mean, how do I close every single show? Like, we're not lying to you. If we didn't tell you things were as bad as they are, we would be lying to you and whatever value we had to say would go out the window because we started lying to our audience. And the second we do that, we're useless.
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A
Yeah, the people who are telling you that, oh, don't worry, Trump is Batman and he's actually fighting your enemies behind the scenes and everything. Those, those people are. You should be black pilled by that. You know, I'm just being, I'm just being honest when it comes down to it. You know, I was on the Coffee and a Mic podcast with Dave Column, and Dave Collin is a Cornell physicist, but he's also, he's been on Tucker. He's just a really cool, you know, cool dude. Like one of the coolest boomers you'll ever, you'll ever talk to in your life.
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B
Like a full professor of chemistry at Ivy League University.
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A
And he, and he thinks Erica Kirk is like a, you know, like an MK Ultra victim, you know, so.
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D
Yeah.
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A
But, you know, one thing that he said about me that I took as a compliment was he said, pete's one of. Pete's one of the only people who's ever made me stare into the abyss. And you have to be able to stare into the abyss in order to know exactly, you know, what's in there and how, you know, how dire the situation is before you can figure out any way to try and fit to solve that problem. You know, when I moved to a rural place, I didn't give up on politics. I gave up on national politics. But you can ask people. I'm constantly asking about state politics here and local politics, trying to figure out what's going on here, how, you know, how I can get my guys elected here? Are people elected here and you know,
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B
a question, Pete, without naming specific names, do you know the names of everyone on your county Board of supervisors?
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A
I do not.
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B
Okay.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
Do you know your local, like whoever your county supervisor is?
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A
Yeah, I know who they are. Yeah.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah, right. I can't name them right now.
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B
That matters way more than, like, whoever's in Congress.
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A
Knowing the sheriff, knowing the temperament and, you know, how the sheriff is. You Know of the county I live in is like, is. Is way more important than like a congressman or a senator or something like that. You know, it. A sheriff is going to. Will have way more effect on your life than, you know, a national politician.
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B
You'll at least know if your sheriff died or not. Yeah, yeah.
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A
And if the first thing the sheriff's wife does when he dies is like fly to China, you'll know there's something really wrong.
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D
Schrodinger's turtle.
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B
And not only people forget this. His wife was the former US Secretary of Transportation. We're not talking about like, oh, the little miss who stayed home. This lady was a cabinet level official. And like, you know, I mean, people forget that. This is insane. Right.
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C
Regarding the stare into the abyss comment you made, Pete, you know, people have to understand, if you're going to fight the devil, expect to see hell. That that's just how this works. So I just wanted to say that Walt was on my mind. What do you expect us to tell you?
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A
Yeah, I don't expect Father Rippinger to run and hide in a corner every time he thinks of how bad the world is getting. He's seen a lot worse.
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C
Yes, exactly my point.
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A
He's seeing exactly what's causing this.
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B
Well, that and Jews, but. Yes, but. Well, but we repeat ourselves.
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D
Yeah.
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B
And that's where the honesty, like, again, you know, the only currency any of us have is as opinion writers and you know, as a guy who subscribes to. Has bought Charles's books and subscribes to Jose Substack and Pete Substack and. Right. Like, the only reason to do any of this or listen to me or anything is that everybody else. Not everybody else. But like, if they're not. Like if they haven't been on Pete's show or haven't been on Jose's show, or they're not friends with someone that we know. Everybody else lies to you.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And here's the proof that we're telling the truth. None of us are getting rich.
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B
Yeah, that's.
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D
I mean, I'm.
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C
I mean, I'm saying it in a like a kind of tongue in cheek way, but I'm sincere. Who, who wants to pay for the truth when, you know, I mean, it's just.
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A
It's a trope.
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C
It's. I mean, it's almost tired at this point to point it out. But it is, it is true. It's like if people want to be entertained, they want to be told what. I mean, it's just a historical fact. The reason Nostradamus wrote in quatrains is because he didn't want to give people bad news, because people don't like bad news. They don't want to. First off, they don't want to pay for it, and that's if you're lucky. And second off, they usually want to punish it. I mean, there's a reason. Don't kill the messenger is a. Is a maxim, you know, or is. It's just an old cliche. There's a reason for that. So I would argue that, as you say again, this is my usual. Yes. And like, of course you should listen to us. We're not getting rich. You worry about. Worry about us. If we start suddenly, you know, lighting cigars with $100 bills, that's when you should worry about us. Then. Then, you know, check and see. Check and see who's. Who's putting that money in our pocket. When we get to that level, then worry about us. Until then, I think it's pretty obvious that we are. We could be mistaken, but we are not misleading. Not intentionally, at any rate.
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A
Yeah, I think Owen Benjamin says all the time, no matter. I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks about Owen Benjamin. But he says, you know, I may be wrong, but I'm not lying. And that's. That's the most important thing is, I mean, I know people who are lying. I know people who are taking Jewish money right now. I could probably reverse course and, you know, be like, hey, you know, I want some. No, I don't want it. I'd rather just be where I am. You know, I'd rather do what I do. Have my nice little podcast and, you know, not. Have. Not have all these eyes on me and everything. And, you know, and also, you know, not come off like somebody who, you know, was speaking the truth one week and then about, you know, about who's. Who's in power and then, you know, sucking up to them the next. Because I think that people who do that have a tendency to actually go insane. Actually. People. I understand people like, who go left to right, you see that all the time. But if you, like, if you ever find somebody who's gone right to left, usually they're probably struggling with mental issues because, I mean, you can't abandon logos and not.
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B
Right.
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D
Well, they're either. They.
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B
They're either going crazy or they're just getting paid. Those are. Those are your two options, really?
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A
I mean, Jose, you. I mean, all you do is write about Jewish power now, basically. I mean, I think I Mean, I know you write for, you write for another source other than your substack and you write for other other things. But when it comes to your substack, you're just basically concentrating on who is in power right now and exposing them. And that's what you would expect people you would expect like truth seekers to do.
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D
Yes, and this is one thing too, that it has, I will be transparent here that I have lost old clients and connections from my previous political life, if you will, because of that. But you have to do this if you want to actually get to the truth. It means that you may have to make short term to medium term sacrifices because you're fighting for a higher purpose at this point. And that's one thing that really escapes people that live in a really thoroughly Judaized society that looking for excitement.
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D
term gain, dopamine hits and just high time preference behavior on a pedestal. And I, I, I do this not because, well, it has become a bit more economically sustainable. But I'm not doing this for money. And a lot of people, to be honest, in this really transactional, low trust society we live in, they flip because of the fact they just want those that inject that quick injection of shekels. And that's a downstream effect of this Jewish supremacist superstructure we live in.
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B
And not to just talk politics, but you see the same sort of thing, you know, in my beat in the church where you get, I think the most important thing that happened in the last week or two was the Society of St. Pius X and a cone. Switzerland consecrated four new traditionalist bishops. And you know, a bunch of people lost their minds. You know, people who were saying Francis, you know, Bergoglia was a heretic, you know, two years ago, all of a sudden, oh my gosh, it's the worst thing ever that these, these traditionalists, you know, kept themselves going by, by consecrating bishops. Why do you care? Like if they're Wrong. They're wrong. Say so and then move on. Right? So you're attacking these people for doing their job, and you want to make it like, oh, we have to crush these people. Meanwhile, you've got, you know, the bishop of Fresno, California, like, participated in an Episcopal Church thing where he sort of helped ordain an Episcopal bishop and priest, Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe, like, spoke at a 50th anniversary Thanksgiving mass for two gay dudes. And I'm supposed to care about the traditionalists while everything else is like, what are you doing? You know, like, a consistent thing for people who are lying or trying to shift flame is they're always majoring in minors. Right. Jose's substack is one of the best out there. And the reason it's one of the best out there is these. The one issue, right. Gas is going to go up to $6 a gallon again because we're at war with Iran, again because we're run by Israel. Until you deal with that.
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C
What?
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B
Oh, this reconciliation bill didn't pass Congress, dude. They just. They just did the thing where our military and the Israeli military are now one unit. They totally gave away the sovereignty of the United States.
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C
Yeah. That's madness.
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B
What. What else is there to talk about other than, you know, Jews?
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A
Well, yeah, it's. The issue is.
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C
It kind of goes back to. You've said a long time, Dee, one of the most important things that America actually contributed to the world was Alcoholics Anonymous. Do you remember saying that? He said, that's one of the. One of the things that America has contributed to the world that's worthy, that's worthwhile, that's a lasting achievement. And it kind of goes back to that. And more importantly, where even that gets some of its roots in the Bible. That's what they mean by the truth will set you free. Like, that's really what it's about. You can't engage with a problem. You can't solve a problem until you know what it is, until you confirm what it is. Anything else is just wasting in time. Wasting time or running in circles. Once you establish what the problem is, then you can address it properly. And if you can't fix it, you can at least try and mitigate it until you can arrive at a solution. But everything beyond that is just completely counterproductive. You just. You're going nowhere, and you're getting there fast.
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A
Yeah, the. The idea. I mean, you want to feel like little victories along the way, but that's. It's not how politics works in a democracy. Politics In a democracy is you're. You're going to have to have like, rapid, rapid change, which is one of the reasons, you know, I tell people that if you really want to feel like you're accomplishing something, you basically have to do that in your personal life at this point and. Or locally or something. Because if you're relying upon national politics when you can just look and see, okay, there's one group and they get their way, sure, there's other groups on the periphery that get their way, but it all benefits one group. So knowing that and knowing that there's nothing that you can really do about it on a national level. Nothing. Now you're not, you're not voting. Voting isn't going to change it. Then you're going to have to find some other thing to do. And, you know, we were saying earlier about. I think Jose was talking about how, like, checking out and, you know, like, concentrating on your. I think before you can even think about changing the world or changing, you know, anything outside your front door, you really have to, like, get your house into a order. I think that's one of the problems that we have with politicians is when you look at these people who go to Washington, D.C. to become, you know, professional politicians. I mean, none of them, they all, like, remember that, Remember that, that stat, that stat sheet from like 15, 20 years ago where it was like, 60% of these people can't get a credit card. 60%, you know, 60% of these people are felons, you know, and everything. And it's like. And that's the NBA. Oh, no, that's not the NBA. That's Congress.
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B
It's like they're scum. Like, I mean, how many of them. How many of them in your state legislature like, cheat on their wives, let alone Congress?
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A
Yeah, I mean, it's. Democracy is really the. It's just the worst form of government because you have to re. Especially when you have, oh, we're going to have all these people. And by having more people, the more people we have inside one body of one body, like a legislative body, the more it cancels itself out. It's like, no, the more evil multiplies and the more people have. Figure out a way around this. It's just, democracy doesn't work. And I can hear, yeah, I'll leave the boomers alone. I hear people go, oh, well, you know, that's why, that's why we have Representative Republic. Yeah, we're talking about your representative. We're talking about the person you voted for. We're talking about the person that you're like, oh, if I just, I can go and cast this vote, and then I don't have to do anything else except, like, you know, get into $60,000 worth of credit card debt. I mean, like, what the hell's wrong? I don't get it. I don't see how people, especially after the housing crisis of 2008, which should have told everybody that debt is just how fucked up debt is. And then after 2020, and after Covid, the summer of George and the election in 2020, to show you what these people are capable of and how basically, you know, 2008 showed that, like, 80% of the country didn't want the banks bailed out, but they still got bailed out. And then 2020 showed you that all, all, all they have to do is tell you, oh, you're going to kill grandma if you go outside. And people will stay inside. People were just waiting around watching tv, waiting to be told what to do. It's a fucking nation of sheep. Why would you, you know, wouldn't you want one person over, you know, over that group which is already too large, a group of 340 million people? Come on, Sam Francis wrote a book about this. You can't, you can't govern that many people at once. What political solution are you looking for? That's. That isn't like, doesn't end at, like, at least the border of your state.
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B
Do you have five friends that can help you move a couch?
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A
I have two that could. I think I could immediately get here. 3. Might take a little, a little while longer, an additional three, but yeah, I have people who'd help me move a couch, sure.
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B
Well, if you don't, then that's your, that's your number one job, is find five bros that'll help you move a couch.
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D
Yeah, that's the foundation for any type of politics. If you don't have a community, like, forget it.
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C
Right, Absolutely. And that's why they take pains to destroy any kind of the heritage American unity, because they know that's the secret. Just try and find a building block that creates unity and go from there. Like, it's, it's not rocket science, but that's, that's why we're so shackled, and that's why they've taken everything they can to do to make it anathema for us to even think in that light, that heritage Americans can't, absolutely, cannot, cannot organize in any way, shape or form. Everybody else can, but we can't. And that's the reason we all know it. And that's exactly it.
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B
Well, what does Thomas always say? Like, after 1945, it was illegal to be right wing.
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C
Yes. It's 100. Correct.
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A
Right.
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B
The entire, like, telos of the system is right wing. White guys may not organize.
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C
Yeah. And the worst thing about democracy, to
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kind of riff off of what Pete
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was saying to me, the worst thing about it is all the power. We could argue that power always has to come from the top down. We could argue that back and forth.
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But.
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But with democracy, it absolutely has to, because it has to start from the top down, ironically enough, because you have to make change for masses of people in order to get them to go in the same direction. So therefore, it's sort of this strange, bizarre inversion that, okay, we ostensibly give the power to the lowest and broadest amount of people yet in order to get anything cohesive and to work, you have to have broad sweeping changes to bring them together. Now, maybe that broad sweeping change is exterminate everybody that doesn't look like this so that they all cooperate on an ethnic level or a racial level, whatever. But it's still a tremendous change that has to be invoked or in. Or inordinate media manipulation to get all these people on, because otherwise they're just not going to work together.
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That's.
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C
That's one of the. The most bizarre ironies of the whole situation as far as I'm concerned.
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B
I mean, like, without flattering anybody here, like, obviously, everyone here is well informed in, like, the 99th percentile plus. Right. And there's stuff that you don't know that I know, and vice versa. And there's no way even the best informed amongst us can know everything that's important. So why would I consult? Like, I'm, like, a really nerdy dude. Why would I be like, you know, what I need to do about my woman problems is, like, lean on myself when I can. No, I just need to call Charles. And dear listeners, this has happened more than once over the years where I'm like, I do not understand what I'm dealing with here. Charles, please help. And he'd be like, oh, this is your problem. I'd be like, oh, hey, thanks, man. I appreciate that.
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Yeah, and vice versa.
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I've come to you for many things. It's like, okay, Dee, I have my Ballywick, but this is well outside my wheelhouse. Right. Help me out here. What am I doing wrong? Oh, okay, well, it's X, Y, and Z. All right, thanks, bro. I appreciate it.
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B
Yeah, right.
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D
Absolutely.
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And if the four of us who are by any objective measure in the top 1% of like, politically informed people on, on in the United States, probably on earth, don't know things, important things, why are you going to ask the dude who doesn't even know where Iran is on a map whether we should go to war with Iran?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, do they know how many navigable rivers are in Iran? I do. Do they know the main of the name main rivers in Iran or the mountain ranges or the deserts or how many big cities there are or anything? Like, if you're going to invade a country, you should probably know these things. And we got a bunch of people who don't know anything about it, be like, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. What? I mean, seriously.
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A
What?
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B
You know, it's ridiculous.
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A
Well, I mean, it's just what people are willing to settle on now. You know, it's like, I'm not willing to settle for, for the status quo. So I'm willing to change, try to change what I can change. It's the people who are relying upon other people. Like, you know, I could see if, like, if, if, if one of you got elected president, I could see me being like, okay, you know, let's trust the plan here. I know this guy and everything. Yeah. People running around saying, trust the plan. They've never even been in the same state as Trump or anyone in the cabinet. Never met any of them. Maybe met them in a fundraiser. They don't know who these people are. They don't know who they're. They don't know who their local. Most people don't even know if they live in a. They don't know their mayor is. So it's like, okay, so what do you know?
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B
Who's blackmail, like, who's blackmailing these people? I mean, that's the most important thing. Like, who bought this person? Right. Like, not for nothing, but like, we've talked about this before. Pete, when did you know that Barack Obama was gay or at least bisexual?
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Oh, well, I mean, when he gave the keynote at. So like, right after he got elected
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to the Senate in 2014.
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A
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Joseph.
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D
After doing some more, like, deep research about Obama's background. Like, this is like, oh, late 08 or whatever. Once, like, I started getting more into like, deep politics and like, actually connecting the dots of like, who funds these people and what associations they have.
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B
Yeah.
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D
I was like, around like 08.
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B
So, I mean, I think Charles and I both talked about this. Both known for 20 years that this dude was strange, to put it mildly.
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C
Yeah, yeah, I'd say so.
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B
Bill Clinton was obviously like an evil pervert. W. Bush was some kind of psychopath with like a dry drunk. Obama was a pervert. Biden was probably some kind of pervert. Trump is obviously some kind of pervert. Like, you know the 1992 election, the last time we had an actual guess, you know, Ross Perot, right. The two main party's contenders were guys that were both involved in smuggling cocaine. So. And they made a movie starring the biggest movies are in the world. Tom Cruise, you know, 20 years after it was too late to do anything about it, admitting, oh yeah, George Norrie or Art Bell or whoever it was at 2:00am on the radio at the time, like, yeah, 1982 election was fake. It was two CIA cocaine smugglers running against each other.
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D
Right?
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B
Like. When you say, oh, trust the plan, like, who, who, who is. Who are you trusting? Like Donald Trump. This guy who's can't stay faithful to his wife ever, is possibly also into dudes. Like when you say you can trust this guy, why, on what, on what basis? He can't stay faithful to his wife. He can't stay stand. Can't stay honest with to his business partners. Why would you trust a guy who can't stay faithful to his wife or his business partners? Okay, I assure you of all my friends that have met Mrs. De and me, and I know Pete has like, they all like Mrs. De much better than they like me because I'm an asshole.
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A
That goes without saying.
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B
Well, yeah, but if, like, if all of a sudden I was like, hey, man, I got divorced, Pete would be like, what did you do? What happened? Like, there would be just no presumption of innocence on my part that like I hadn't done anything wrong or that like everybody that knows me would know something went wrong and that I had some sort of part of it. So why are we just letting Donald Trump have a pass that like, hey, hey, oldest son who bears my name, could you not marry Jeffrey Epstein's banker's daughter? You're a billionaire who's relatively good looking. Could you find somebody else? I guarantee you there's another girl out there who would say yes. Why are you marrying Jeffrey Epstein's banker's daughter?
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You know, when that, when that news dropped, when I saw that, I was like, all right, that's not real. That's. That can't be possibly be real. I'm like, come on. And then I looked it up and I'm like, oh, come on. Son of a bitch. Can we just have one? It's like, couldn't he marry somebody that no one's ever heard of?
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B
Yeah.
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You know, somebody that he met at temple. I mean, church. Yeah. You know, and here's something about Trump, too, is. I mean, we know this. I mean, anybody who. Anybody who denies this is, you know, just. I. I don't know what. What they think they're getting out of it by denying it, but since Trump has taken office, his family has made billions.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Yes. If he was do. If he, like, wasn't going to war with Iran, if he could tell Bibi, like, every once in a while. No. If he was deporting, like, 50 million people, if, like, you know, they were just pumping so much oil that gas was $1.25 a gallon, I'd write him a blank check. Make as much fucking money as you want now. I mean, like, don't fucking scam people out of it with a. With shitcoins. Just write yourself a blank check. But we can't even get that. You know, it's like, people are like, oh, you know, Putin's worth a trillion dollars. I'm like, I'm sure if you talk to a lot of Russians, especially ones who had to live through the 90s, they'd be fine with that because he made their lives better. Whose life is getting better through all this except Donald Trump and people who are taking. People who are taking Jew money.
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C
Exactly.
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But.
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And this is. This is one of those things where it's like, could you just be honest with me? Like, you know, if you're like, hey, man, I'm in the presidency to enrich myself and my family, because this is ridiculous. We pay the. The most important leader in the world, like, a pittance, right? And everyone in Congress can insider trade and not get caught. And it's like, they've. They've written the law explicitly so that, like, it's not illegal for when they do it. Right. And the Supreme Court can take all these gifts from, like, donors and stuff, and, like, they can take trips to the Caribbean on, you know, whatever. And. And I'm done pretending that, like, the presidency is somehow not corrupt. Like, okay, we live in a very corrupt system. I could. I could accept that. If gas was $2 and we weren't at war with people and we deported 50 million people, like, hell yeah, man. Write yourself a check from, like, the. We saved $5 trillion. You get to keep 1%. Mr. President, I wouldn't care at all. I'd be like, sounds like a good policy to me. Let's put some incentives in the system that make it so that people want to do the right thing.
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And I'm sick. I'm sick and tired of, like, people who quote Hanlon's razor never, never attributes a malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Look, if it was just stupidity, they'd make an error. They'd be stupid in our favor every once in a while.
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C
Exactly.
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A
But it's. I mean, really, when. I mean, and when I said before that our lives are get. Our lives are worse. I'm not saying existentially, your lives are worse. Although if Immigra. If immigration kicks back up with, you know, 2020, there's another election in 2028. Did anybody know that? Or is everybody assuming that it's going to be a Republican who's going to get in there? Who's going to keep, you know, who's going to keep the southern border closed and close out H1BS? I'm not. What I'm saying is, is that, like, you're paying more for everything. I know I'm paying more for everything. I shop, I go to the supermarket, you know, sometimes by myself, most of the time with my wife, I look at price. You know, I lived by my. I lived alone for a while back in 2022. I know what the prices of things were in 2022, and I know what the prices of things are now, and they've gone up insanely in the last 18 months. So don't fucking come to me with like, oh, you're just imagining things. It's like, no, I. I pay attention. I know what the fuck is going on here.
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C
Yeah, it's funny you bring that up, because I was actually just thinking this this morning about how the common refrain is, oh, every generation thinks things times are worse than the one before it. But it's like, with us, like, no, it's demonstrably true. True. I mean, I can, I can show you with sock puppets and an Etch A Sketch. If you want me to do that, I can do it where we can look at graphs like you said, Pete. Like, I can remember the prices 18 months ago or two, four years ago, or two, three years ago. Whatever you want. Yeah, exactly. And that's what's just so mind blowing about all of it. It is demonstrably getting worse. And I don't understand how I've said this many, many times before. If one looks at the causes of the American Revolution, they were a pittance, an absolute nothing compared to what's been done to us in just the last 15 years. And I, I, I just can't believe. I can't believe that there's not blood running in the streets. It's just, it's just mind blowing to me. And to step back to a point, you said de earlier about the whole, you know, if I was getting $2 gas or my groceries went down. You know what? Fine. Cheat the system a little bit. Politician, whatever. At least, at least my kids are getting what they need, and my life's a little better for it. Okay, I get it. I. Viewer call. Years ago, we were talking about my time in law enforcement, and you were saying to me, you know, buddy, if you were deporting, you know, 50,000 people, if you're, if your unit was deporting 50,000 people, you know, a month, I'd be like, you know what?
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Fine.
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C
You get a little. You find a little something, you know, find a little smuggler stash. Couple, couple grand, fine. You can use it to pay for your third divorce. You know what I mean? After years being in law enforcement, okay, I'll turn a blind eye. I don't care. My wife's safe, my kids are safe. The streets are getting clean, okay? You, you pad your account with a little bit of drug money that didn't make it to the evidence locker. I don't, I don't give a. I just don't care. Fine. Fine. Oh, that's the cost of doing business. That's the compromise. But it's not like we're just getting. We're just getting raked over the coals. We're getting raped, and we're getting absolutely nothing for it. And to step back to something Jose had said earlier, like, that's real politic. You have to make compromises. Sometimes bad people get things, and it has to happen because good people need things. That's just the real world. But we're not even getting that. We're just getting nothing and it just keeps getting worse.
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D
Yeah, I think this goes back to the one sovereign principle, that ultimately we are governed by a hostile, racially alien elite in the form of organized Jewry. And even regardless if it's corrupt or efficient, there's. The policy outcomes are going to be detrimental to the host state building people of the country. Whereas even if you had like an elite that was of your, like, same racial stock or whatever, but they were like, corrupt, they at least still have like that noblesse oblige to give you the compromise and give you certain things. But we don't have that because we just have a completely different type of ruling class lording over us that is
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A
openly and openly hostile.
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B
Yep.
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D
Yeah, exactly.
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A
That's it. More, more and more people are starting to realize that, you know, not, not only does Israel want to destroy their, like, immediate neighbors, but they want to destroy Europe and the United States. You know, fear. I had Ferris Modad on the other day and, you know, he's come to that realization. He's like, holy. He's like, these people not only hate, like their neighbors, they hate us, they hate the West. And it's their goal to, is their goal is to destroy the West. And one of the easiest ways they can do that, especially the United States, is if this bill goes through and they have open intel, like they have access to all of our intelligence. There's no ask. Like, the President couldn't deny giving them intelligence or cooperating with them without going to Congress and explaining to Congress why that's what happens if this bill passes and that's the easiest way for Israel to destroy us is because then they basically have access to all of our secrets. And what have they done with our secrets before when we've given it to them, sold it to China, given it to the Soviet Union, they basically give it to all of our enemies. So, I mean, really, this bill coming up is really, if this bill goes through, I mean, it's just basically the nail in the coffin.
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B
Don Bacon is the mode Congressman. Like, he's the mode Republican Congressman and. Right. Like, he should have, like, done the honorable thing and offed himself after you humiliated him like that, Pete.
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C
Right.
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B
Like, but of course he doesn't, because does he care that Israel owns Congress? No, he's happy about it because he's owned, he's got a second house somewhere nice. Because of that. Right. I don't know what, how he's been bribed. I don't know if there's like, you know, a little Boy or a little girl that was slipped into his office for him? I don't know. Right. I just know that Don Bacon was bribed and he's the average Republican congressman.
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Yeah, I mean Jose probably does the best work on following these people and who they, how much money they're getting and basically what they do. I mean if you, if you're not seeing his articles where he exposes all of the, all the friggin nuns who were, you know, what he calls Buck dancing for Zion, you're really missing out on Jose Substack. So, I mean,
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D
yeah, I think Byron Donald's you mentioned the other day is giving inspiration and I also think I'm going to look into Don Bacon as well to, to draft an expose there.
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A
So Don, Don Bacon is the worst. I mean he, he is, he said, I think, I think he's leaving office and he's, he told a bunch of people who were tweeting at him, you know, about like immigration and stuff. He's like, oh yes, yes. Oh, I'm just going to punt. I'm going to punish you until I leave office. I can't wait for you to see how I'm going to vote. I mean that's, that's who these people, that's, that's who you're electing. That's who you're electing. Man, it's, it's so hard off themselves. Yeah. It's so hard not to fed post when you start talking about this stuff because it's like literally, what would, you know, what would the founding generation have done?
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B
Exactly. Yes.
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C
Right.
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B
Again, if Don Bacon, like the fact that he's like a craving lickspittle with no self respect and no honor is part of the package. Right. Like that's, he doesn't mind that he's like humiliated in front of. I mean, you're my friend and everything. Pete, let's be honest. Like, relatively minor media figure completely humiliates senior U.S. congressman and former general, like in the felonies generation that would have gotten you called out with like Pistols at Dawn, you know, like.
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Yeah, and he's proud of it.
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B
And he's proud of it.
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A
He's proud of the fact that he's a traitor. Yeah, they are all proud of it. I mean they literally brag about it.
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B
Well, like I don't particularly like Graham Prattner's Platner's politics, whatever, the guy in Maine, like who's a. Yeah, but, but
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A
he was, but he's anti Zionist and that's why they took him out because they can't have what they can deal with. They can deal with one in Congress in. In the House. They're not going to have one in the Senate.
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B
No, no. And the fact of the matter is, right, that, like, he wasn't turfed out because he's a far left economy who will destroy the economy of the state of Maine and the nation and do, like, he was turfed out because of Zionist power. The one and only reason. I mean, as late as the 90s, what's considering, like, career ending, sexual harassment was just, like, normal stuff.
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A
Yeah. I mean, it's crazy because, you know, the whole time they're accusing him of all this, I'm like, you know, I guess the most shocking thing is, is that none of the people that are accusing him are. Were underage, because that's what you would expect at this point. And you'd expect that people would just forgive them and make excuses for them because of it, especially if they're Republican. Hate to put it that way, but no, I'm right.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Well, I mean, even that, like, like this, this notion that, like, somehow our leaders have to be moral, upstanding people who don't do things like get wasted and make an inappropriate pass at somebody. Like, you elected Bill Clinton twice. Don't tell me about, like, oh, the moral rectitude of the people in Congress is a hill with which we would stand. Come on, you don't care about that at all. In fact, the more, like, gross scum that are in Congress that, like, cross dress cheat on their wives, you know, like, that's. You like that. You know, one of the reasons Thomas Massie is hated is that he was like, hey, Congress has paid out. I forget how many millions of dollars, but, like, to quash, like, sexual harassment payments that have been made from. From government funds. Can we. Can we see who did that and how? And people are like, nope, that's got to be sealed. Wait a minute. We got lawmakers out here, like, sexually harassing people, committing credit card fraud, felonies.
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D
You know,
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B
was it Madison Cawthorn or. I can't remember if it was Madison Cawthorn or Matt Gaetz. One of the two, like, was like, hey, when I first got here, I was invited to this orgy and I didn't partake. And so that. That's why I'm not in Congress anymore.
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A
That's Madison Cawthorne. Yeah. Yeah, right.
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B
Like, you think that these people are like your church vestry board.
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A
I mean, it's. It's all of it's all of Washington D.C. i mean, I, I can't say who told me this but like somebody got an internship at Cato and they were told immediately from one of their friends, do not go to the president of Cato's parties. Just don't go. Because you may think you're going there to meet a woman, but you're not. I mean, I know we're all shocked because they call themselves libertarians and everything, but yeah, they're also, you know, one of the, one of the biggest advocates for open borders on the planet. And every time you see somebody, you see somebody advocating for open borders because you know it helps the economy, they're just basically quoting Cato. So, but I mean this is, this is inherent in all of it now. So it's like how do you, how do you fix this? I mean, it's part of, I don't understand how anybody would expect to at this point, like vote for something and expect things to get to get better. I mean, I would, I would. You know, I thought that if like, you know, Elon had more input into, you know, like with Doge and everything that things would have not maybe gotten better, but at least like the status quo would have been kept. At least things wouldn't go downhill as fast as it were by a little more time. But. The group of elites that, the last group of elites you want to be running your country, they won out over all of that, even with all of Silicon Valley and Silicon Valley's ties to Israel as well. But you know, a little more worried about them in the whole Vegeta issue to that seems to be a little more dangerous. Well, you know, and saying that it's like really, what's the solution? You know, you get, you get, you get tech guys and you get Infinity Petites and your, your, your information sent to Israel, you get the Israelis, you get in, you get, you know, 72 hour wars that are, you know, four, four months old and your information sold to Israel and then like maybe even your, basically your intelligence communities officially now, no boundaries, combined with military, with, with the military. I mean, and let's, let's face it, all that's doing is formalizing something that's already existed.
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B
But oh, I'm sure that all of us have dossiers at MI6 or whatever it is because the FBI can't have one. So whatever.
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A
The British, well, you both, you and I know, know people who've been asked questions.
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B
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. For being on this show. Like, and like I'm Just an opinion. Like, I'm just a loudmouth dude. I'm nobody. Why? Oh, like, my buddy runs. My buddy runs his own newsletter, right? My friend Jose runs the equivalent of, like, in the back of national review in, like, 1997. In, like, the little 1 inch by 1 inch ad. Like, tired of lies. Subscribe to Jose's newsletter. Write to P.O. box. Right?
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C
Like, yeah, yeah.
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B
I mean, thank God Substack exists and we have that. Have that platform now because I use it for my show. But, like, why do you care if Jose was just talking about, like, the. The sea people, like the underwater people that, like, secretly lived in Atlantis, were controlling us using mind rays? You wouldn't care, right? You'd be like, what? You know, if Jose spent every post talking about how the Amish controlled America in a cabal with, you know, bigfoot, You wouldn't care. Why do you care now? Oh, because he's telling you the truth. That's why you care.
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It's those damn European elites that control the city of London.
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D
Shots fired.
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I was. I was. I was telling everybody. I was saying that I was listening to Jose's latest episode. I had a bunch of driving I had to do this morning, and then another show came on and I was listening to it and everything. Like, right up to. I'm like, yeah, okay, here's some good information right up to the end when this former military guy is like. And it all goes back to those European elites in the city of London. And I'm like, you motherfucker. You motherfucker. You can't even say it.
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B
I think I probably know who you're talking about. And it's like, it'd be one. This isn't 2005, where, like, knowing was like this weird esoteric knowledge where you had to be on, like a weird bulletin board, you know, in the middle of the night or whatever. Like, it's post October 7th. You can just say the truth. It's okay. No one will be mad at you.
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Look, I have people that I'm associated with who get upset for the things that I say publicly. Things that I say publicly which are basically mainstream now. You can pretty much.
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Like, like just stumble into a public conversation now where somebody's j pilling somebody else. I hear it every single day. I mean, it was like after October 7th, it was like, oh, okay, so every once in a while I hear this. No, I get every single day. I had somebody, a friend of mine who contacted me and said, yeah, just hired a new 29 year old kid the other day. He's deaf, minority and everything. The kid just immediately I hire him and he starts to jpel me. It's like, this is, this is like mainstream shit. I don't care that like, you know, like people who think that they're in the, you know, because, oh, I want to be in politics. And if, if I'm going to be in politics, I, I. We need to, we need to lie. We need to lie about what's happening in the world. We need to distance ourselves from people who are actually telling the truth about what's happening in the world. I have no time for those people. I mean, Why would you want to be dealing with cowards?
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C
To give a personal anecdote, Pete, about you saying how the times have changed since October 7th and how a lot of these things have become mainstream. I have a dental hygienist where I go to my dentist. And she's for a woman. She's extremely one of one of ours. Obviously, you know, women are never fully there, but context matters. So she's really one of ours. And I was talking about our program. I always talk you up in your programs. And she said, y' all give it a listen. And she ended up becoming a fan of your show and this show as a whole. But she told me when I saw her after one visit, she said, you know, I just had to shut off the one about Israel that you did. The Psychopathic Nation. I just couldn't get through it because those people have been through so much. And I just kind of like just softly said, okay, I understand your perspective. I just appreciate you listening and catch the next episode. I'm not, you know, no point in alienating somebody. Let her have her moment. Fine. So we still get along just fine. So fast forward to, I want to say, you know, six months ago, a year, you know, a year ago maybe Even less where I saw. Saw her again. And she's always happy to see me. And we're talking and she says, you know, I think I have to revisit that episode now. She said, I things, Things have changed.
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A
Yeah. I mean, I had people, I had one person reach out to me, like after October 7th, after seeing what was happening in Gaza and say, you know, I stopped listening to you because, you know, you were just talking about the Jews and I couldn't take it anymore. He goes, now I have to go back and revisit everything. And it's like, yeah, I mean, some people come to it on their own time, but, you know, I'm not talking about, like, normies. I'm so about people who are like, in, in politics. It's like, what do you, what, what do you think? If you're in politics, what do you think you're basically going to do? Like, working in the shadows. I'm talking about national politics now. What are you going to do working in the shadows? You can't get anything. What, you're going to form your own deep state? Come on. Your own anti Semitic deep state while you're working, while the person who works to the left of you in the office of the person that works to the right of you in the office, or raging homosexuals. I mean, don't call it the Gay Old Party for nothing. It's like, I forget who said it to me, but I've adopted it was the Democrats promote homosexuality and the Republicans practice it. I mean, it's kind of inarguable at this time. And I don't know how you expect to change that. That has to be. You're talking about a spiritual issue. That's not a political issue. That's a spiritual issue. That's an existential issue. I don't know how you change that by voting, especially when it comes to national politics, which is basically out of reach of most people. I don't know. I'm confused by those people.
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B
Well, I mean, when's the last time Lindsey Graham actually did anything in the interests of South Carolinians? By your fruits, you shall know them. Right?
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A
Did you see that? I think it might have been. Brandon Weickert said the other day that they polled South Carolinians and most South Carolinians didn't know that Lindsey Graham was pro, was pro the Iran war. There, there, there. There's your voting. There's your national politics. I mean, what the fuck? Sorry for cursing so much, but I mean, really, what the hell's going on Here. How do you. What do you.
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Well, I put, I put something out on my telegram just because I was personally dealing with somebody who just. Okay, every one of us knows someone like this, right? They're a little slow, but not stupid. And they don't pay attention to anything. They work in a blue collar job. They're a functional alcoholic. None of their personal relationships work. They drink a six pack of beer every night just as a matter of course. And they're conservative dispositionally, but they don't pay attention. Or like, if they do vote, it's like, well, my union says I got to vote for the Democrat because they got the good contracts for us, or like, I lack guns, so I'm gonna vote for the Republican. This person has no business having an opinion about politics, and that's a plurality of the American population. They just don't know. This is not a criticism to them. I mean, Pete points it out all the time. But if you think that, like, after 2020, like, the heart of every man, like, wants to be free, like, you know, I'm going to do the, like the Muppet side eye meme at you and be like, really, after 2020, you think people want to be free? No, people want to be taken care of. They want their beer cold and their food hot and that's it.
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And people. And just real quick. And people think that, like, oh, well, you know, a bunch of people from the center crossed over and voted for Trump in 2024. So that means elections going forward are, you know, quote unquote, our guys are going to get elected. Because there's been a complete shift. It's like, that's not how this works.
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Works.
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That's not how this works at all. I mean, ignoring the fact that they can just cheat because, oh, I don't know, did the, did the SAVE act get passed or anything? I'm sorry. And actually didn't. Like, state. Aren't states still didn't. What state was it that just said that? Or was it national that you can. They can still count votes that are cast after election day. It's like, come on, who we fooling here? Something else has to be done. If you consider that to be black billing, well, that's your problem. I'm just talking about reality here. If you're sitting around voting, you know, in national elections, waiting for things to change. Notice I said national elections, you know, waiting for things to get better. When has that happened? It's like libertarians, Libertarians are like, all we got to do is if we just reduce the power of the state or if we eliminate the state altogether, people will get along. It'll be instant order or something like that. Spontaneous order. It's like, okay, so what's your proof of that?
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Actually, my favorite libertarian and a former guest on this program, State Representative Travis Cochran of New Hampshire. Funny, funny guy. Follow him on Twitter. If you're on Twitter. 70% of people use freedom to like cause uncompensated for negative externalities on others. And they don't use freedom to like improve the world or themselves. They just impose costs on everybody else. So the Libertarian Party in New Hampshire is like, okay, well, birthright citizenship. I guess we just gotta end democracy. Okay. That's the kind of libertarianism I can get behind. Murray, unleash the police. Rothbard. Murray endorsed David Duke before he died. Rothbard, okay, that kind of libertarianism I can get behind. But this whole like, everybody's free and equal, like where, when? Show me.
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And I forget what show. Jeremy Kaufman said it on recently, but he said there's ample evidence that they have that more and more like left leaning libertarians are leaving step into the world of power, loyalty and luck.
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Like New Hampshire. They're basically creating a culture that they can't, they won't stomach. So that they're leaving now. Is that going to turn New Hampshire into, you know, a paradise or something? No. I mean there's still part of the United States. There's still, you know, federal roads running through there and Massachusetts is still, is still right there at the bottom. But I mean that's it sounds to me like they understand that if you create a culture, you know, if you create a culture that's more in line with order and like history, that the shit libs will be like, okay, well maybe we got to go somewhere else. It's why you don't see in a lot of small towns in the south, shit libs don't move there. Why? What are they going to do there?
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They're going to complain about the Baptist church and the Methodist church. And the Presbyterian Church and all the pastors are going to get together every Saturday. When they get together at the diner for coffee, they're like, did you get the crazy person, crazy Yankee, complaining about how we ain't nice to the gays? Yeah, we did. You too? Oh, all right. We're still going to be mean to the gays, right? Oh, yeah, of course.
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Yeah. I don't know. People just don't get it. I wish I could get everyone to look into Sam Francis's the revolution of Mass and scale. You just can't make order scale up to what? The size of what this has become. I can talk about El Salvador all I want and I can talk about Singapore all I want, but you know, what are we talking about? Populations between 6 and 10 million.
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Yeah, that's like the city of Philadelphia, basically the greater Philadelphia area.
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Iceland is nice. Like Iceland is smaller than Spokane, Washington.
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And also every. Everybody is like, at least like, like the furthest out they go or like fifth cousins. Like everybody there is like from between a first and a fifth cousin of each other. That means something. I mean, I think that means something. I think it means that you're. Yeah. You still have people who are like, well, you know, culture matters. And all you need to do is you need to import people in who can, who can adopt the, you know, who will adopt the culture. I'm like, okay, who's that? Is that going to be someone from like Norway or is that going to be somebody from like friggin Eritrea? What are we talking about here?
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I will have you know, Pete, that both Iceland and Somalia have proud, long histories of anarchism and that no government has worked in both places equally well. And we should be looking forward to modeling our society off both the medieval Icelandic Commonwealth and Somalia right now, because there's no central government. Sorry, I'm gonna take off my libertarian hat from 2007 again.
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Shoot. I. I interviewed some. Somebody on the show who actually went to Somalia in the late 90s when there was like, literally no government. It was just warlord land. But yeah, the. I mean, it's, you know, just to reiterate, this isn't blackmailing, this is just being realistic, trying to, you know, you have to figure out exactly what the reality is. And those who were just waiting around and like, waiting for Trump to save them. I don't know what to do. I mean, I see people. I see people like former followers and people who had subscribed to me before who I know don't listen anymore. One, because when they unsubscribe they had to write a Dear John letter because apparently I'm their wife or something like that. So they have to explain why they're, why they're unsubscribing. But two, I fucking live rent free in their head. They like half of their posts are, if not referencing me by name, they're like vague posting me. It's like, what's wrong with you people?
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There's a specific instance that we both talked about of a couple of guys who share similar interests to me, but just couldn't get over the fact that like in order to have a nice city, you have to be racist.
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Yeah. In order to have order, you have to be able to see differences between race and know who to avoid and who not to. And it just seems like we've gotten. It's like people are more worried about how they're perceived. They'd rather be dead than be perceived as somebody who recognizes race. And I mean, I just don't know how to live that way. You know, I've lived in. You know, it's funny as a guy contacted me and he was like telling me about how he was. He went to this town in one of the Carolinas and how it was just all white. It was just crime free and everything. But it was like shit, it was a shitlib city. Not a big city, but a town. And I had to tell them, these progressives, they live like they think that white supremacists live well.
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I mean you brought up St. Francis earlier. The. What was his old joke about like liberals live like the kkk, right?
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Yeah, yeah. They only want to be around white people. And then when they. Or I mean, have you ever looked into like, have you ever lived near an area that got gentrified, where gentrification happened? You ever pay attention to who does the gentrification? It's homosexuals and progressives.
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Yep. Every time.
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Well, they got nothing to lose.
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Well, it's also, it's also. Yeah, exactly. Because they have no kids, they don't have to worry about quote unquote, good schools. They can just go in and air fix their area. I mean that's how a lot of California. I want to say it was San Francisco specifically.
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They're literally, but they're literally doing, they're pushing out the, the racial element that they, yeah. That they, that they think are oppressed, you know, that they say, oh, you know, whites are just, you know, right. White right wingers are just oppressing. You oppress, you know, black people. And it's like you, you just like push them all out of like places that they've lived for like, you know, how many ever decades.
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Yeah, but here's the difference. They tell themselves these people are like, like, it's like the family dog that, that dies and everybody tells it went to the farm, you know, we set it upstate to the farm. That's what they do. They just convince themselves that these people are going someplace nicer and better. That's literally what they do. They convince themselves of that. It's no different. Like, that's the, the bizarre irony. It's, it's, it's both groups like get these people out of my neighborhood. Only one is honest about where they want to send them and the other one is completely, completely delusional. But they're both sending them out of the neighborhood. That's to me, that's the humor in it all.
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I'm so old that I remember when Forest park and Jonesboro, Georgia were really nice places for white people to go and party and bar hop. And then the Olympics came in 1996 and all of these areas that had, I mean, were some of the most crime ridden, horrific neighborhoods that everyone knew to avoid. They basically cleaned them out and sent them to Forest park in Jonesboro. Look, we did a good thing. We cleaned up, you know, we cleaned up the area around where the Olympic Village was. Okay, and what else did you do?
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I mean, that's what they literally did in Martha's Vineyard. I mean that was one of the things that I just found. Again, talk about the usual lost opportunities, but that was the Martha's Vineyard thing. They literally did that. They, we shipped a whole bunch of illegals into Martha's Vineyard. They were gone in 24 hours. And they told themselves, oh, you're, we're going to get them the help they need and send them to places that'll, that'll be able to serve them and, and help them out and to house them properly because we just can't do it. We don't have enough room up here. Like that's literally what happened. I mean it all, it hasn't been memory hold. It's still out there. And how long did illegal immigration last there? Not even 24 hours. Oh, they need to go somewhere else where they can be better, help get the hell out of here.
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Just don't want them somewhere next to your house.
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Yeah, exactly right. And again, I'm not even complaining that they threw them out. I think it's fantastic. I'm just saying don't send them to my neighborhood either. Just get them out of the country. That's. I'm not saying that they're, they're the real racists. Tm. I'm not saying that. I'm saying I just want to be able to do what they do and, and, but be honest while I do it. That's all I'm saying.
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Well, I think Charles, you said that. I think you only had a half an hour and a half today. So if we need to wrap up, I guess we can do it now. We've done enough black pilling.
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Yeah, I think we've done enough of
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that for the day.
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Of course, I'm sure.
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All right, Jose, tell everybody where they can find your work. And let me just say and reiterate again, and I know that DE is with me on this. Jose is doing. If you're not subscribed to Jose's substack, you just, you don't know what's going on right now. I mean, and I'm talking about like not only in America, but Jose is covering, I mean he has the, the zionization of what's happening with all these right wingers getting elected in Latin American countries. Oh, everything's going to get based. Yeah, all these, all these Zionist right wingers getting elected in Latin American countries. If you want to know about that. I mean that's how I didn't know that until I be but I do because I read. Jose.
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Thank you so much for the kind words, Pete. And you can find me on my substack, Jose Nino Unfiltered Joseal Nino.org Head there where I'm dropping articles every other day and they're, they're free. But if you want to become a paid subscriber, that will give you access to my weekly live stream where you can ask me questions and I also cover some news items as well. And then you also have access to the group chat where you can DM me any questions or just put anything you want that's within the bounds of the law and stuff like that. But yeah, you can do that. And you, you have full access to my DMs as well. I generally respond within a day or two.
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De
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despite some health problems on, on my co host part we did a episode of Fundamental Principle back and we'll be, we'll be starting that up on like a monthly basis here soon, trying to get back in the swing of things. But we both, both just had stuff going on so that'll be out. I'm gonna do my standard spiel, you know, subscribe to Jose. Subscribe to Pete. Buy Charles's books. You know, give money to people who don't lie to you and hate you or don't hate you and don't lie to you. So thank you for for having me. Once again, I apologize for being on CPT earlier.
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That's fine, Charles.
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I don't have anything going on to really pitch to anybody because I've just got a lot of personal professional issues happening. So I'm trying to straighten those out. But I will pitch for the other guys. Absolutely. 100% subscribe to Jose. It's unbelievable. This guy's a machine. Just do 100%. Do it Pete. I always pitch your stuff IRL, but I'll do it for you on your own. Show up. Obviously keep supporting Pete. Keep listening to him. Check out these show. Make sure you join these telegram channel as well because he always drops something interesting in there at least once a day minimum. So just support the people as Dee said that don't hate you and don't lie to you. More importantly than than anything. Take care everybody and God bless.
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All right everyone. Just get out there and do what you have to do to make your life better. And it's basically it's up to you and your people now. You got to find your people and you got to start working together. And that's it till the next time, gentlemen. Thank you.
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