Pony Express Radio 08/06/26 - Burrito Blues

Summary

The Pete Quiñones Show: Pony Express Radio 08/06/26 - "Burrito Blues"

Date: August 7, 2026
Host: Pete Quiñones
Guests: Red Hawk (host, OGC), Pete (co-host), Dennis (Redwood Society, OGC), others
Main Theme:
This episode dives into the intersection of American decline as seen through health policy, media credibility, gun rights, mass immigration, economic hardship ("Burrito Gate"), generational divides, and the spiritual collapse of American society. The discussion is laced with cultural critiques, humor, pointed rants, and a focus on building robust alternative communities.

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Overview

The central purpose of the episode is to dissect recent political developments and narratives—especially around health policy, food inflation, media credibility, immigration, and American identity—while mocking out-of-touch establishment messaging and advocating local community organizing. The hosts blend current events with broader philosophical observations, using “Burrito Gate” as a springboard to critique the US economic system and social fabric.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sponsor Banter and Setting the Scene

[00:39–03:23]

• Typical humorous and irreverent sponsor shoutouts, introducing the tone (“slops of slop… burritos of all things”).
• White Boy Summer/Winter jokes; segue to Axios Fitness, Fox & Sons Coffee, ALP Nicotine, Ms. Vendrillo suits, Tall Man Books.
• Introduction of guests and affiliations (Redwood Society, OGC).

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2. RFK & Gain-of-Function: "Adding Another to the List"

[06:02–13:05]

• RFK Jr.'s claim that various diseases (Lyme, RSV, COVID-19) trace back to gain-of-function research (Clip at 06:02–06:35).
  • Red Hawk: “Okay, chalking another one on the list once again of things that we are right about.” [06:35]
• Deep frustration that no one is ever punished for public health catastrophes; bureaucratic unaccountability.
• Mocking the endless parade of establishment denials turned admissions (“list number 250” of right wing conspiracy theories proven true).
• Pete: “Everybody wants… fifth generation warfare. I mean it seems to be biological at this point.” [07:57]
• Dana Bash’s infamous CNN interview with RFK as emblematic of journalistic malpractice.
  • RFK: “You’re repeating like a parrot… I’ve read the science.” [09:36]
  • Red Hawk: “Your job as a journalist is to be skeptical of the people in power.” [10:22]
• General contempt for mainstream journalists (“They scared people into early graves… mass psychosis…”).

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3. COVID Reflections: Institutional Rot & Mass Compliance

[13:27–19:00]

• Denunciation of Fox News and cable networks for pandemic propaganda (“Fox News is no different…”).
• Observations about how TV as “the soundtrack of their life” distorts boomer worldviews.
• Dennis: “America went along with it, without any real fight… That was hard for me…” [14:56]
• Nostalgia, “boomer TV,” and generational media consumption as barriers to change.

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4. Food, Health, and American Decline

[22:35–29:48]

• Broader collapse of the US food system discussed—processed food (“slop”), pharma, and the death of “real food.”
• Comparison to Europe (McDonald’s with real ingredients in France vs. US slop).
• Red Hawk: “Americans aren’t healthy… not just because of people’s life decisions… it’s literally because we pump our people with poison, and then we’re not pumping them with poison, we pump them with drugs.”
• The privatization/corporatization of health and food, “Monsanto and Tyson buying up all our farms,” and the trap of farm subsidies and conglomerates.

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5. Environmental Stewardship and Right-Wing Conservation

[24:46–27:43]

• Conservation as a right-wing position (“Conservation is a right wing position. Always has.”).
• Red Hawk: "No, actually, I don't think it's okay for Doug Burnham to try and sell off a bunch of public land..." [25:29]
• Frustration at all environmental issues being reduced to “climate change.”
• Critique of America’s obsession with GDP and materialism.

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6. Gun Rights: NFA Ruling & Suppressors

[29:55–39:51]

• Recent court ruling undermining parts of the National Firearms Act (NFA) [30:34].
• Absurdity of gun/suppressor regulations: “What is the difference between a 16-inch barrel and an 11.5 inch barrel?” [30:34]
• Utility and logic of suppressors, referencing hunting and hearing safety.
• Dennis (on California): “The increase of gun laws… has just led to more crime and more people getting shot.” [36:19]
• Broader sentiment: 2A doesn’t really protect against tyranny, but better to have it than not.

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7. Immigration: DHS Secretary Mullen, Numbers Mirage, & "Mass Deportations"

[42:02–54:24]

• DHS secretary’s obfuscation about legal vs. “criminal” aliens; hosts savage this as political weasel-speech:
  • “By being here illegally… you are a criminal, motherfucker. Stop making this ridiculous distinction.” [43:48]
• Mass naturalizations cancel out any deportation numbers (“Net down only 400,000.”)
• Red Hawk: “This is not what we wanted. This is not what we all know actually needs to be done…” [49:42]
• Growing consensus: the federal system and both major parties are wholly untrustworthy on immigration.

Community and Decentralization:

• Building local alternatives and OGC chapters emphasized as the only real option.
• Pete: “The system is completely… Trump was our best shot to reform from the inside. It just cannot be done. There is just this massive, like, rat’s nest.” [54:26]

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8. Demoralization, Inheritance, and the Generational Schism

[61:46–62:38 & 74:56+]

• “Burrito Gate”: Out-of-touch pundits claim families can still eat cheaply, dismiss cost of living crisis, and blame the young.
• Red Hawk: “This is just bad politics. This is fucking amateur hour here.” [61:55]
• Pete: “He’s lying. He’s just a born liar.” [62:07]
• Dissection of the economics: spending $1,200/month to feed a family is NOT pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.
• Dennis: "It was coordinated. My whole timeline was filled with [posts] telling me I'm lazy and that's why prices are high…"
• Notable quoted tweet ("Roman Helmet Guy"): “If I hear another boomer complain about DoorDash, I’m going to become a communist…grandparents always cooked homemade meals, but that’s because grandma stayed at home and grandpa had a union job." [75:42]
• General sense of generational abandonment: “It’s bizarre… one generation so ZOG-brained that they like hate their own kids.” [121:46]

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9. Life in Decline: Public Spaces, Cultural Decay, and Minority Rule

[69:58–73:58]

• Young Americans “entitled” to a burrito under $20?
• “They want us to accept living like slaves from the third world.”
• Decaying public spaces, crime, demographic displacement.

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10. Building New Institutions: Historical Identity and Living "Spiritually"

[81:16–109:56]

• Celebration of Thomas777 (Thomas Cyr) getting a shout on a major podcast — “living historically” as resistance.
• "The American man pacified an entire continent… built every institution… we could do it again." [58:16]
• Pete & Red Hawk: real loyalty is to your friends, community, and kin — not “billionaires 10,000 miles away.”
• Praise for Tucker Carlson’s “10 Points America Needs” episode as a common-sense, spiritually resonant manifesto:
  1. Fairness & Justice
  2. Sovereignty
  3. Productivity (“reshoring”)
  4. Beauty / anti-brutalism
  5. Health
  6. Transparency & Honesty
  7. Optimism, Family, and Reproduction
  8. True Education
  9. Decency in Foreign Policy
  10. Strong Borders & Cultural Cohesion
• Red Hawk: "We have to have a complete revival of the American soul that has been beaten down for such a long, long time." [99:28]

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11. Anti-Black Pill: Take Action Locally, Reject Demoralization

[54:24, 58:16, 81:00+]

• Don’t wallow in fatalism; organize, decentralize, and build.
• “Never underestimate what well-organized, smart, intelligent white men can put together and get going.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media:
  • Pete: “Your job as a journalist is to be skeptical of the people in power. And what did they do throughout all of COVID? They scared people into early graves.”
• On Boomers & TV:
  • Dennis: “It’s like their soundtrack of their life is just this propagandizing BS all the time.” [19:00]
• On Immigration:
  • Red Hawk: “By being here illegally… you are a criminal, motherfucker. Stop making this ridiculous distinction.” [43:48]
• On "Burrito Gate":
  • Red Hawk: "You think you’re entitled to go to a store and get a burrito that doesn’t cost $20? Yes I am entitled. I’m an American."
  • Pete: “He’s lying. This guy’s just a born liar.” [62:07]
• On Intergenerational Dissonance:
  • Pete (quoting Roman Helmet Guy): “If I hear another boomer conservative bitching about Gen Z ordering DoorDash, I’m going to become a communist...” [75:42]
• On Reviving American Spirit:
  • Red Hawk: "The American man pacified an entire continent… built every institution… we could do it again." [58:16]
  • Dennis: "We just have to stop believing in the myth that you need government to save you, because it won’t." [58:08]
• On New Institutions:
  • Pete: “There is no going in and taking over these legacy institutions. There is just this massive, like, rat’s nest, Gordian knot that just needs a sword to come in and cut it. And that sword is just going to be a new institution.” [54:26]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [06:02] RFK Jr. clip on gain-of-function and banning research funding.
• [09:25] Dana Bash CNN interview – media confrontation/discrediting experts.
• [29:55] Federal judge NFA ruling – discussion on gun rights.
• [42:02] DHS Secretary Mullen on immigration, naturalizations.
• [61:55] Start of "Burrito Gate" and food inflation/affordability debate.
• [81:38] Shout-out to Thomas777 and the segment on "living historically."
• [88:37–109:56] Breakdown and commentary on Tucker Carlson’s “10 Points for America” manifesto.

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Conclusion

Episode Tone:
Irreverent, deeply skeptical of institutions, anti-establishment, community-focused, alternating between black humor and rallying spirits.

Takeaway:
This episode surveys the breadth of American malaise, from corrupt public health and media to the alienating, expensive realities of daily life—and insists that the solution won’t come from “voting harder,” but from local organizing, community loyalty, and a rekindling of American historical and spiritual identity.

Action Items:

• Support and join local OGC (Old Glory Club) or Redwood Society chapters.
• Seek alternatives to the corporate/wage slave route (self-reliance).
• Stop waiting for political messiahs—build institutions and communities now.

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Recommended further listening/reading:

• Tucker Carlson’s episode on “10 Points for America.”
• Baklav Havel’s The Power of the Powerless (suggested by Pete).
• Redwood Society Substack for community building/self-development.

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Final Quote:
Red Hawk: “We are all we have. And fortunately for us, that's enough.” [59:44]

Transcript

[A]

Sam.

[B]

Foreign.

[A]

Time to saddle up once again for another exciting episode of Pony Express Radio. As everyone could tell from the thumbnail. You know, this is gonna be a fun one tonight. You know, I'm constantly talking about on the show, it's like, you know, we talk like a few days beforehand. It's like, oh, what are we gonna talk about this week? And then all of a sudden, you know, like the day of, we get like some ridiculousness that comes up. It's like, okay, well, I guess we gotta put that in the thumbnail and we gotta start, so. So, yeah, everyone buckle in your seat belts for this one. So Pete has returned, coming back once again. How are you, sir?

[C]

Doing good.

[A]

Good to have you. And then we've got Dennis from the Redwood Society joining us tonight. How about you do a brief little intro to the chat here? And welcome to the show, sir.

[D]

Ah, thanks for having me. I was inspired by, by my good friend in New York to jump up and step up and take some time on here. So excited to do it. I'm vice president of the Redwood Society out in California and, you know, living in the belly of the beast and

[A]

ready to talk some slops of slop indeed. We will get to in a literal sense today because we're gonna be talking about burritos of all things, but, well, thank you for joining us. Yeah, you know, we're always happy to have on fellow members of various chapters of the OGC to come and join me and Pete on the show. We always have a good time. All right, before we get into the stories of the evening, as usual, we must get through our list of sponsors and friends. So at the start, of course, we are in August. White Boy Summer is going to, you know, be drawing to a close faster than you think pretty soon. But White Boy Winter will be on the horizon before anyone knows it. So you guys need to be in tip top shape. And the best way to do that is to head on over to Axios Remote Fitness and Coaching, where they will whip you into shape. So, uh, head on over there. While you guys are at it, uh, you need your caffeine fix from Fox and Sons Coffee. Uh, link is in the description for all of you, uh, caffeine enjoyers out out there. I've heard nothing but fantastic reviews for years now of Fox and Sons. So one product I can personally endorse is ALP nicotine pouches. Because we here at OGC are fans of big tobacco. ALP nicotine gets me through tax season like no other, let me tell you. So Be sure to get some ALP nicotine pouches in your life. While you guys are at it, you must head on over to Ms. Vendrillo. And this is actually a special occasion because there is actually a summer sale going on. Ms. Vendrillo right now. Certain items are 50% percent off for the summer sale, you know, so not too many people are buying suits and whatnot during the summer season. So it's a good time to stock up on some nice formal wear. And I tell you, you can always tell whenever you go to any OGC event who is wearing an Ms. Vendrillo suit and who is not. I myself, I had, for one, I

[C]

had occasion to wear my blazer this weekend, this past weekend.

[A]

Oh, yeah. There you go, Pete. Yeah, nice. So, yeah, everyone head on over to Ms. Vo and take advantage of that summer sale. Remember, 50 off on certain items, so definitely check that out. And then finally, to expand your historical knowledge, you must head on over to Tall Man Books, which is run by our good friend and American spirits host, Mr. George Bagby. So Bagby has worked tirelessly to bring back various historical books back into print, you know, dating all throughout American history. You know, 17th, 18th, 19th century. There's all kinds of good stuff in there. So be sure to head on over and give some love and patronage to our good friend, Mr. George Bagby, truly one of the most gifted men in our entire space, I must say. You know, just every single time I sit down and talk to Bagby, I learned something new. And you just, like, wind them up and watch him go. You know, he'll take you on an adventure like nobody else in this scene, let me tell you. So everyone, give some patronage to our good friend, Mr. Bagby. All right, everyone, let's get into some stories for the week. You know, we're. We're going to tease the audience a little bit here. We're not going to go jumping face first into the burrito just yet. We'll get there. But first, I wanted to check in on somebody in the administration who we actually haven't talked about for quite some time on this show, but somebody, you know, when it was first announced that he was gonna be part of the Trump coalition for 2024, I was like, okay, I like this guy. You know, he's got some, you know, not so great opinions on economics and on the race issue especially. But, you know, the one issue that he is just fantastic on and really is something that should be focused on more in American life is the fact that, you know, Americans Just aren't very healthy. Whether it relates to our food, whether it relates to how everybody is on some kind of substance. You know, SSRIs, drugs, drug overdoses are out of control, you know, the vaccine schedule. So. And of course, this person is other than rfk. So when this guy isn't posting on Twitter various videos and photos of the last like 40 years of his life traveling around the world, picking up venomous snakes and going towards rotting whale carcasses and wrestling bears and what have you, like, his Twitter is just very, very interesting in that regard. It's just like a whole hodgepodge of, oh yeah, here's me in 1996 in, you know, Tanzania, and I'm riding a wildebeest. You know, it's pretty much like his Twitter account. Very, very bizarre. And before we get into this, I do have to say people should really go listen to a Timeline Earth because Bird does an amazing impression of rfk. It had me like rolling on the ground laughing when we were recording last week. So, you know, everyone should be listening to Timeline Earth and number one men in news. But let's hear what, um, RFK has to say on this one.

[E]

You know, disease that almost certainly came from these experiments and is now devastating our country. Rsv, that came from a laboratory which is now the biggest killer of children in our country. And of course, the COVID 19 pandemic, which was a trauma for the whole globe. And all of those have been linked credibly to gain of function research. So it's something that, with enormous cost and no proven benefits.

[A]

So basically what I'm RFK saying here in this clip is that as, as the health secretary, he is suspending all, you know, funding of gain of function research. And he actually said the interesting part in this clip, which has been like, you know, what is this like, list number 250 now of various, like, alleged right wing conspiracy theories that has now been proven true, where he just says in the front of this clip, oh, yeah, guys, well, Lyme disease is a result of gain of function research. And yeah, probably came from a lab and now it's all over the country. It's like, okay, chalking another one on the list once again of things that we are right about. So these ticks are now spreading all over the country, spreading various diseases. Like, oh, yeah, well, of course that came from a lab. It's like, gee, thanks guys. So, I mean, it's just so frustrating that, well, nobody will ever be punished for this kind of stuff is the, you know, the thing we were talking about with Fauci last week on the show is okay, we're going to release deadly viruses and deadly tick borne diseases into the country, infect our wildlife, infect our people. And it's like, what do you even do at this point? You can't get rid of ticks. You know, what do we even do now? Any initial thoughts, gentlemen?

[C]

Well, it's not even that. I mean he, I don't know if anybody saw his or if we're even going to play it. The interview he did with Dana Bash. Dana Bash interview.

[A]

Oh yeah, that's coming up too.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, okay, then I will leave that alone. But yeah, this is. Yeah, everybody wants what's fifth generation warfare. I mean it seems to be biological at this point. It just seems that whenever the worst people in the world you catch them talking about, oh, you know, we need to geo engineer tick so that or bioengineer ticks so that we can get people to stop eating meat. And we have this over and over again.

[E]

And

[C]

a saying that Thomas says all the time comes to mind, but I won't say it on the stream. So I think we know which one I'm talking about.

[A]

Yeah, indeed. Why don't we actually play that data Bash clip really quick and then we'll get into the rest of the commentary here. Yeah. So in addition to Secretary Kennedy going on Fox News talking about this gain of function research, suspending, you know, funding for it, of course CNN is going to take the line like, oh my God, you're canceling this funding. Millions will die or what have you and talking about how Lyme disease was created in a lab. We're going to have him go on here and bring up again COVID 19, which we were talking about this last week with Fauci and everything. It just seems like a fever dream at this point. It's like it was, I was there again. I was there 3,000 years ago during COVID you know. But let's hear what Mr. Kennedy has to say.

[E]

Your job is telling the truth to the American people.

[A]

I see my job as telling the truth. And the truth is that there is is study after study after study. It's one of the most studied things out there in science.

[E]

Like a parrot. You're repeating like a parrot. I've actually read the science. Let's use. You don't want to hear and debate this.

[A]

So I'm not debating this for you.

[E]

Of course you won't.

[A]

No, because I'm not how to do

[E]

is repeat things that people told you and Say trust the experts. That's what you did during COVID Now, we know that Andy Fauci, who was the expert, was lying about everything. About masks, about social distancing, about natural immunity, about the transmission from the vaccine, about the source of COVID He was lying. And you were punishing people for not trusting the experts. And now you're rolling out the experts again to talk about something that you have no personal knowledge of.

[A]

Okay, well, guess what? That is my job, to talk to people.

[E]

Your job is.

[A]

Am I allowed to talk?

[E]

Yes.

[A]

And my job is to get as much information as I can. What we were doing.

[E]

What we were doing, skepticism, what we

[A]

were doing in Covid and still with regard to these vaccines is getting the best information, the best science that we just shameless, just absolute shameless from these journals again. You know, we say this all the time, but it bears repeating every time we talk about these. People say, you think you hate journos enough? You never do. Okay, sprinkle some more hate on there, because they deserve it in every way. And you know what? Kudos for Secretary Kennedy here handling this woman how he. How she should be handled, you know, but just complete and utter contempt. You know, it's just so funny, I think. What was this? Was it a. Was it a Plato quote when he was saying that if you don't participate in politics, you'll be ruled by your inferiors? It's like, does anyone really think that Data Bash is superior to us in any way? Just a complete mouthpiece for the regime? And Kennedy's right, calling her out on this. Your job as a journalist is to be skeptical of the people in power. And what did they do throughout all of COVID They scared people into early graves, basically by social distancing. There's going to be people who still. There's still people wearing masks. They will never recover from the mass psychosis that was put upon them during the pandemic. Everybody's lives, basically, unless you're on, like, North Sentinel island, have been affected by some way by. By these people in these evil journals from the COVID days.

[D]

It's just.

[A]

It gets your blood boiling every single time you talk about it. Because, again, nobody has been punished for it. Nobody will be.

[D]

And it speaks to, like, the history of this, right? Like, we. The tick tick research started in 1950, and we're talking about the gain of function and that you still have people going on credibly saying or trying to be credible, saying that, oh, they've never done gain of function, and this doesn't exist. And it's like this rewashing of history that like the just regime mouthpiece just want to put in there and put. I would like to say she's just stupid in a woman, but, like, I can't even say that because this is like basic knowledge. Like, you, you can't be sitting here arguing with, like, what the facts of Fauci's journal said and what they did. It just shows you that, like, the total corruption of the system is like, condensed into one power structure. And this whole idea that journalists, red, blue, whatever side you're taking, have any concern for you is ridiculous in this year. And I don't, I don't understand people who still kind of watch the news or listen to these people and give them any kind of credibility at all.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, we don't want to just, you know, put CNN under the fire here, but all the major news stations are exactly like this. They may not be lying to you on all the same issues. Some news agencies may be lying to you about different ones compared to the others. But you know, when it comes down to, I mean, Fox News is no different. You know, they'll. They lie to you just about different stuff.

[C]

I mean, Mark Levin is on Fox News. That's all you need to know. For those of us who saw Covid for what it was right away and did everything we could that year to try to warn people that this is all BS and how much damage this was going to do, just knowing that no one has the will to make anyone pay for this. I mean, it wasn't only Fauci, if there were not journals like this on TV every night, because remember, you could say, oh, people, you know, people don't watch TV anymore. Well, people are locked in their house. It kind of had nothing else to do. So they're watching this and they're just being told over and over again. I mean, does anybody remember, leave your groceries outside for like two days and then wash them before you bring them in. The fact that no one is going to in this lifetime get punished for this is. I mean, that's black pilling. Me pointing it out isn't black pilling. The fact that it's. No one is going to get punished for this ever is black pill.

[D]

And one of the things that really woke me up to. Right. And this would be about any issue. But you look at the people, over my dead body, you're not doing this. You're not going to take my gun fight tyranny. But for the most part, America went Along with it, without any real fight, churches shut down, all these places that shut down, that just destroyed everything. And that's the part that was hard for me, that really pushed me in that we need to do something different was all these people just went along with tyranny just happily. And most of them enforced the regime standards and became their own police reporting their neighbors for not wearing a mask when they take their dog out to use the yard. Like, it's insane to me. And it really speaks to the nature of what the American people have come under. This tyrannical regime that's just been force feeding you slop for 50 some odd years at least, you know.

[E]

And

[C]

does Anybody remember the 2011 movie Contagion?

[A]

Oh, yeah, but Matt Damon, I remember seeing that in the theaters at the,

[C]

at the end of that movie, Sanjay Street Shitter Gupta appears as himself and says, well, you know, what we really are encouraging people to do right now is social distance. Nine years before. Nine years before who? That's unbelievable.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, my mind went to a, a comment you were talking about, you guys were talking about earlier about like, you know, who's still watching the news or what have you. My mind goes to George Costanza. It's like it's on tv. Of course people will watch it. And that's basically. You see, these attacks are constantly ramping up from mainstream journals and they have been basically for the last 10 years and especially in the 2024 season and really during COVID as well. It's a good topic. You guys remember when CNN changed the filters on Joe Rogan's face to make him look like all green and nasty and everything and make him look sickly when he was telling people not to take the jab. You know, these people just have no shame whatsoever. But the point about that too is like you're, you're constantly getting these ramped up attacks about the, the dangerous rhetoric of podcasters or people online or like, Tucker Carlson is a podcast. You're constantly seeing this thrown out there and everything. But, you know, like the people who are actually in the podcast or seeing the online, I mean, even people like us on this show right here, it's like, you know, we're not getting any viewers for free. We're not getting any, you know, people who just like, are ambiently switching channels or what have you. Like, we've had to earn like every single person who's come here to this show to list to the show. Tucker Carlson has had to earn the views of every person who Watches the show. Everybody who has a Twitter account has to earn people following them and everything. These people on, like, cnn and we've already ran experiments of this. Like, some of these people have lost their shows. And, like, do you guys remember when a Chris Cuomo tried to get into the podcast scene? Nobody listens to him. You know, these are talentless hacks, all of them. They're trying to pass themselves off as some experts with, you know, they've got the science, they know the real issues. You know, it's like, no different than Mark Levin. Mark Levin had a podcast.

[F]

Don't be.

[A]

Listen to it. You kidding me?

[C]

The only audience he has now is boomers watching him on Fox News because,

[A]

I mean, that's what's on. Yeah, well.

[C]

Well, it's. It's what boomers watch. You go to a boomer's. I. I'd be willing to bet that if you. If you just randomly chose, you know, in. In a red area, like 20 boomer houses, 15 to 16 of them, if you walk, if you just showed up, Fox News would be on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, very true. Very true.

[C]

That's how. That's. That's why every boomer in the country knows that we've been at. Iran has been at war with us for 47 years.

[D]

I. I've seen it where it just plays in the background. They just leave it on all the time, even when they're not watching it. It's like their soundtrack of their life is just this propagandizing BS all the time. And it's like, well, no wonder you think such stupid things. Like, you're just. You're. You're propagandizing yourself by never. Never turning it off, never having it off, even when you're cooking dinner or whatever. And it's. It's a really weird kind of development that I've seen with, like, as they get older, they seem to get more hooked on the TV and, like, less engaged in the world and more just engaged in this slot boomerism, which is really weird to me. I think. I would think it would go opposite when you get older, but, well, they

[C]

convinces them that they're informed.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's very true.

[B]

I think.

[A]

I think one of the most positive developments I ever had in my life was I stopped watching tv, you know, across the entire board. Like, don't watch any of the streaming services. Never watch, like, the slop that, you know, critical drinker or somebody is always compl about right now is, like, wokified or something like that. I. I haven't watched any, like, new TV series or anything on tv like, coming. Coming up on, like seven or eight years at this point. Well, I have, like, a big screen TV hooked up to a DVD player so I can watch, like, old movies. That's, like all I have. You know, I, I know I barely even watch sports. Like, I'll go over to, like, a friend's house and I'll like, you know, watch like the sports ball or something when there's like a big game on. But it's like a totally different world, man. Like, I see like, commercials on there. I was like, what the. Really, you know, see like a commercial for a movie.

[D]

What?

[A]

What? There's, there's movies out right now. You know, it's just like these people are living on Mars, man. So. And, and you can see it, you know, in the same way that we are. We're talking about, you know, the, the Fox News conservative, basically. You know, you see how there are still people walking around with masks today. And I guarantee you it's just because they're, they're no different than the people watching msnbc. You know, they're. They're just of a different kind of. So anyway, but back to like, the actual issue at hand here. I mean, this really is something that I was excited for when the administration was, you know, first getting, you know, things rolling in the opening days. I was like, kind of like, you know, what the, you know, a foolish me. I thought that this might be one of the things where we might actually be able to make the. Make the most degree of ground with. Is something like, you know, fixing America's food supply, you know, fixing the drug epidemic and taking psychologists and the whole quote unquote mental health industry to task by getting everybody drugged up on SSRIs. The fact that literally every single woman in this country the second that she turns 14 is put on birth control, you know, like, which you can't tell me is like, good for people. You know, I thought we'd actually be able to make some ground on this one. But, yeah, I mean, it just seems like that institution too. It's just rotten to the absolute core. You know, we're seeing clips again of Red Cross is funneling migrants over the border of Morocco and Spain. And now just. Do you guys remember the, the issues we were having during Hurricane Helene and everything where, um, the Red Cross was, uh, refusing to hand out, um, life giving aid to people based on their race? You know, it's just, man, oh, man, it's just that there's Not a single institution in this country that isn't just completely rotten to the core, you know, which is it. It just. It just shows you the scope of the problem that we actually have to deal with.

[D]

When you can't agree on people that your citizens should be healthy, you have a major problem, right? Like, that's, like, the bottom line. And I think this is one of the easiest issues. So many people in California, the. Almost everyone agrees on the healthy food issue and these things from right and left, and yet you still can't make any headway into these entrenched bureaucracies and management systems and corporate elites that run it all. It's, It's. It's. It's frustrating to see, especially when you just look at ingredients on anything, and it's just. You can't pronounce half the words. You don't know what the chemicals are. And then they tell you, oh, well, go buy food that's cheaper, or go buy the healthy food, and then it's like 10 times the price. But we'll get to that when we talk about burritos, I guess.

[A]

Yeah, we'll definitely get to that. But, you know, the other thing, too, is, like, I've mentioned this before on previous shows, but, you know, it. It is just so stark and thrown right in your face when you just go abroad, right? I mean, like, I. I was in France a couple. I was in France a couple of years ago, right? And I really wanted to make sure I could go into a McDonald's, so I get a picture of the Royale with cheese, because I like Pulp Fiction. It's a funny movie. And I go there and I have the Royal with cheese, and you can just tell. I'm like, wow, this is actually like real food here, you know? And then you come back to the States, it's like, everything we have is slop. Everything we have is poison all the way down. Oh, and. And that used to actually be more of a lefty issue, definitely. When I was growing up, you know, the whole, like, farmer's market thing and, you know, living off the land kind of stuff. And during the. During the George W. Bush administration, where the public schools were showing kids in the classroom, like Food, Inc. And I remember that movie took some stabs at the George W. Bush administration. It was like the same thing where they showed. God, what is that stupid Al Gore documentary that they showed us all the time? Inconvenient Truth. Yeah, that's. That's what that was. It was like, in the same vein as that, you know, but but now it's just so in front of everybody's face that Americans aren't healthy. It's not just because of people's life decisions, even though that is certainly a part of it. It's literally because we pump our people full of poison, and then when we're not pumping them through a poison, we pump them full of drugs,

[E]

you know?

[C]

You know, it's interesting. I was talking to Trevor Fitzgibbon, he was Assange's lawyer. We were talking privately and he was telling me that, like, back in the day when, I mean, this was like in the 80s when they would show up, like, to protest, like forest deforestation and stuff like that. He said half the people that were there were right wingers with rifles. You know, I mean, it. That was a. You know, you and I have done an episode on my show about that Red Hawk. Conservation is a right wing. Is a right wing position. Always has.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely has. Well, for sure. You know, I really hate this stuff. You know, this has been a rant I've had for years about where every single environmental issue, whether it's, you know, clean water or forest fire management or poaching, you know, wild game, wildlife management, anything like this, is just completely been conquered by, quote, unquote, climate change. Every single issue affecting the environment is climate change. We got Greta Thunberg shoved in our faces everywhere I go or what have you. But. And that actually has turned off a lot of right wingers. And I guarantee you, like, Fox News is probably to blame for a lot of this, too. But it's like, you know, no, actually, I don't think it's okay for Doug Burnham to try and sell off a bunch of public land so we can start drilling oil fields on it. It's like, you know, I think it's pretty amazing that America has more wild spaces than anywhere else on the planet. And it is really important part of our American spirit that we actually maintain these places. We don't let drug dealers just form giant enclaves on these public land to grow their weed farms and engage in human trafficking. We don't just flood our national parks full of a bunch of Indians and Chinese people to show up and get ran over by bison and Yellowstone. I mean, no, we don't want this. How about we just have less people? We don't need to drill in all of our oil fields in, you know, Teddy Roosevelt national park in North Dakota. How about we just deport 100 million people? You know, maybe. Maybe our energy consumption doesn't need to be that high.

[C]

It's amazing how it solves it. It addresses every issue that we have that we're dealing with, every single one now.

[F]

Very.

[A]

So frustrating.

[D]

Well, and just back to the land stuff, it really reminds me of like the stock stark contrast of like even in the Bible, right. You're supposed to be a steward of the land, not like strip mine the land. And it's like a basic concept that we've known for generations and centuries and yet somehow in this way we've got pulled so far in the other direction that like land is a commodity and a commodity only. And it's really just talks about an unnatural ordering of society in the country.

[A]

For sure. Yeah. I mean, again, like this is why. Yeah, we're gonna have this discussion too when we get into the burrito discussion here in a second. But there's just obsession all the time with money and materialism and the GDP and the stock market and the capitalism and all this stuff is just infected people's brains. Like a mind virus and a brain worm, you know, is that we just see everything in dollars and cents. You know, the, the actual material well being and the spiritual well being of people in the country is based off of how good the stock market is doing today or how great the GDP is or something like this, you know, and it's just, it kind of just, it really just makes you sick really, thinking about it when you put it in, in these terms, you know, it's like, oh, like I, I see the, the slopes of Yosemite national park where John Muir stood, you know, in this very famous photo and be like, oh, do you know what this needs? More Somali immigrants to increase the gdp. Yeah, it's just sickening, man. It really is. So, you know, but, but hey, you know, so unfortunately seems as though Secretary Kennedy again is not going to be able to get the punishment that he wants, you know, to be thrown upon Fauci, Dana, Bash, the rest of these journals, everybody who has done this to our people throughout the whole covet fiasco. And it seems like he's really not going to get very far with all the rest of the stuff that he wants to do because, you know, we got Monsanto and Tyson and all these giant food conglomerates who are just buying up all of our farms in our country, you know, and, and this is like another big issue too because, you know, farming in the United States is heavily subsidized and you definitely are going to run into a huge problem if you get into a situation where you want to downsize this thing where we want to actually get back to growing real fruit, real food instead of this highly processed slope. Well, if these subsidies go away that pretty much means that all like the small farmers are basically get bought up by these giant conglomerates again too. So you know, it's a really, really tough issue.

[E]

And

[A]

yeah, all this can be fixed guys, just by voting a little bit harder.

[D]

Okay,

[A]

well we'll definitely get into that too when we get into a separate topic here. But I don't want to just be a Debbie Downer and everything. I do have an interesting story that just came across my DEs today. So a ruling that we have on the NFA, National Firearms Act. So this is kind of cool guys. So take a look at this. A federal judge has ruled that the major portions of the National Firearms act are unconstitutional after Congress eliminated certain taxes on suppressors, short barrel rifles, short barreled shotguns and other covered firearms. So yeah, I mean did I read

[C]

this correctly that it's only for GOA members at this point. But, and, but you're also, at this point what store is going to take the chance. I mean there, this, this still has a long way to go. But I mean we shouldn't have an nfa. I mean it's just, it doesn't make any sense. It was, I mean the whole suppressor thing was people were people back in the, in in the early 20th century were using them to hunt and basically like just eliminate whole populations of animal from certain areas. And so they made it prohibitively expensive. I think $200 back then would be what today, I mean talk thousands of dollars. So I mean this is just a, this is just something that was used as a bludgeon against gun owners. I mean what is the difference between a 16 inch barrel and an 11 and a half inch barrel? I mean four and a half inches, I mean come on, what's the difference? And all of us who have 11 and a half inch barrels put a five inch suppressor on it. So it immediately goes up to 16 again. So it's like, come on. Yeah, it just, it makes no sense whatsoever.

[A]

Yeah, you go to, you go to any gun rage or gun shop in the United States and you are bound to run into a conversation, you hear, you can overhear it where somebody's talking about the absurd regulations of what classifies as a short barreled rifle and what doesn't. You know, it's ridiculous. We all know this is nonsense. Okay. You know, anybody who knows anything basically about guns goes to any gun shop and ask the question. People are gonna be like, oh, well, this is just ridiculous. You mean to tell me this is classified as a rifle and this isn't classified as a rifle, even though they're. The actual guns themselves are the same length front to back or what have you? It's. It's always been nonsensical. It's always been ridiculous. And as it relates to the suppressor thing, right? I mean, like, now I've done hunting with suppressors recently, it's still way loud enough to be recognized as a gunshot and game are still going to be running for the hills. I mean, it just saves your ears. That's all this is. People have watched way too many Hollywood movies and played way too many video games of you sneaking up on somebody shooting a guy with a suppressor in the head, and then a guy six and a half feet to his right doesn't hear the shots? Like, come on, dude, what are we talking about here? This is just Hollywood magic, you know, spinning over into real life. So, yeah, I mean, it's nice. This is like one of the few victories the right actually has had through definitely throughout the course of my lifetime. I mean, you know, I think the amount of states that accept, like, reciprocity for concealed carries in, like, the low 40s at this point, if not the high, high 30s. So, you know, most states you can go to in the country, you get your CPL in one state and the rest of the states are going to recognize it. So, I mean, this actually has been a win for the right throughout my lifetime as gun rights are expanding. You know, you don't even really see Democrat politicians even talking about this anymore. It kind of seems like a dead issue on that end. I think the last president I really heard or the last candidate I heard who really made a big stick out of this was that Beto o' Rourke guy down in Texas. But that was like, in. God, that's gonna be like almost 10 years ago now. What was that, like 2018 or something? You know, so, I mean, no one,

[C]

like, you know, we had that shooting. There was a shooting in Swin Falls, Idaho, this past weekend. And nobody's making a stink out of that. Probably because it was white people who got. Who were getting killed. But, you know, you and I have been shooting together, Red. I mean, we. It's. I mean, it's. It's what America is.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Going out into the woods and firing shots downrange and suppressors just make it. The way I look at it is with a suppressor, I can shoot longer because the, you know, the the energy and the, and the muzzle blast, I mean, it takes a toll on you after a while. I heard Clay Martin was talking the other day with Stormy about how like when you're doing like long range shooting with like a high powered rifle, about after about 70 rounds in a day, you're done. You can't even, you can't even aim anymore. It takes a whole, it takes a toll on you. But I mean, shooting suppressed, I can shoot for hours, as we, as we proved.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I mean like, you know, it, it's, it's so crazy too because like, what is this gonna like, increase, you know, crime apparently, you know, like people use suppressors or what have you. Like, do you know how difficult it is to carry a gun that has a suppressor on it?

[B]

Man?

[A]

Oh man. You know, ah, try, try like holstering or conceal carrying, you know, a weapon that's got a suppressor on it. Good luck, dude. No, I do not believe for a second that if we made these more accessible, the crime is going to have a huge uptick. There's just no way, man. And you know what, here's the other thing too. It's like I get turned off by going to indoor ranges. I refuse to go to them, number one, because that's where all the fuds go. But number two, it's like you get in a stall And a guy two stalls over is being like a 12 gauge with slugs and like, okay, my ears are literally destroyed right now in this place. Like I feel the shockwave of you firing your gun and you know, like, no, no, I'm not into this stuff, man. I'm, I'm gonna go shoot outside and outside only, you know, at this point. So. Hey, but bring on the suppressors, man. Have more people get them. And by the way, anyone in the chat who hasn't fired it before, I highly recommend it. Tons of fun.

[C]

And now, and now we allow somebody who lives in one of the worst places for it to be a gun owner to comment whatever he wants.

[A]

Go ahead, Dennis.

[C]

Yeah,

[D]

yeah. So the whole off roster thing, and I mean getting guns in California is crazy, right? But what's also ridiculous is the increase of gun laws and the defang of civilians of or taking away their weapons has just led to more crime and more people should getting shot. And when you go to San Francisco or LA and you go in these big cities and you see the absolute like dystopia they become, it's like, oh yeah, they disarmed me so I can do nothing. About this. So I have to take it on. And you know, I never thought gun laws were anything but just trying to restrict it. But the more and more I see it in modern day, it's just like, oh, this was, this was made so we couldn't fight back against this stuff. So we could defang it. Not them saying anyone should do violence at all ever. But you don't even have that option. And where states where you can open, where you have a lot easier laws to like conceal carry and stuff, you notice that when a shooter comes in and brings out a gun, they get a few shots off before they are pummeled with rounds themselves. And it would just makes logical sense. But even like the way concealed carry works in California with the sheriffs is you basically have to bribe them for some counties to even get one. So if you're a political donator, you would get them, but then they would restrict civilians from getting any kind of concealed weapon permit. It's extremely difficult. And it's just like, it's so nonsensical and corrupt in the way they do it that, like, it's very frustrating, especially if you like to shoot. And I do enjoy shooting. And suppressors are really good, although I don't shoot them in California.

[A]

Yeah, of course not. Yeah. I mean, the, the last thing I'll say on this is that, you know, we, we actually even kind of briefly mentioned it here. We were talking about COVID at the previous topic. But, you know, one final thing I'll say in this one is like, listen, okay, there, there's been a lot of talk throughout the last couple years from our European brethren here talking about, you know, the, the second amendment hasn't prevented the actual spread of, you know, anti white. Anti white ism or the tyranny of the United States government hasn't stopped, you know, the COVID outbreaks or what have you. And yeah, that absolutely all that is true. I think we kind of firmly put to rest the argument that the second amendment protects us from government tyranny. I think that's just obviously not true at this point. But at the end of the day, I absolutely feel way, way more comfortable having it. Especially, you know, given the fact that I've spent a lot of time in other foreign countries recently that have really bad, bad crime problems and have no private gun ownership laws whatsoever. I absolutely feel way more comfortable living in a state where I could blow away Jamal if he tries to steal my bike. You know, that's. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great thing for us to have, and we absolutely should not give it up, even though it has actually not prevented us. And spreading the tyranny of government basically in any way whatsoever.

[C]

Well, and that is another nice thing about living in an area where you're not going to get brought up on charges when Pookie tries to come through the door and you ventilate them properly. But there are still places where people can have guns, where if they use them against Pookie and his friends, they could get in a lot of trouble. So, I mean, just more, you know, more problems. More problems that needs to be solved.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I mean, the other thing, too, I'll say on this as well, is that same time guys, like, please be careful. Please, please don't be stupid. Please don't be, you know, one of these, like, gung bros. It's like, oh, I watched like, you know, 10 YouTube videos and now I'm like, expert in self defense or what have you and want to get myself into various situations. It's like, I remember this topic was coming up recently with that. I really hate this, like, streamer culture all across the board. I, as a matter of fact, I think, like, Twitch should just be, like, completely destroyed as far as I'm concerned. But there was, like, one of these, like, streamer guys who just, like, walked up to people's faces, was dropping m bombs on them, and then when he got assaulted, he shot a guy in the face. It's like, okay, dude, like, don't be this guy. Okay? You know, yeah, you should be able to waste somebody who's assaulting you, but don't go walking around looking for fights or what have you. And then it could even be worse when you actually do do the right thing. In the case of that Ahmed Arbery guy, you guys remember that from a couple years ago where three good old boys stopped a guy who was stealing tools out of a construction site and wasted him with a 12 gauge? And now those guys are all spreading the rest of their lives in prison. Oh, it's like, so even though our second amendment laws, you know, I'd rather have them. Not that that's. That isn't necessarily going to protect you from a jury of your peers, so to speak. All right, so any other final thoughts on that one, guys?

[B]

Cool.

[A]

We'll shoot on ahead here. So why don't we take a look at another guy in the administration? Right now, let's turn our attention to DHS Secretary Mullen. I always want to call him McMullen or McMuffin or something. When I see this, you know, but, uh, let's. Let's hear what he has to say. This is a. Apparently, you know, again, it's. It's difficult to see or even know what to believe at this point with these reports coming from various, you know, outlets. But apparently he was actually prevented and silenced from giving interviews after this clip was circling about. So they put him on the mute list after this one, after he put his foot in his mouth with this clip. So let's hear possible.

[F]

No. Do you really need immigration reform? Yes, you do. But can we work with a system? We have. Yes, we have naturalization ceremonies every single day in the United States that we're in. That is, you know, federal government is open. We have hundreds of thousands of people, in fact, over. We're real close to 900,000 individuals that have been naturalized in the last 12 months. There's a legal system to go through, but if you choose not to even begin or not to change your status, even if you've been here 25 years, I can't help you for that, right. If you have a status change and you're working in your status change, so you overstayed your visa, but you're going through the system to change your status because you got married and you've been married to a US Citizen for four years, and you're going through the family visa system, you have no, no criminal history. You get picked up and you're in the court system, you've been showing up to your court dates, you're going to be released, you may get picked up, may be detained, may go through that process, but you're going to get released because you've been showing up, you've been going to your court system, your status is changing. If, if you haven't done anything or you have a criminal background, if you have a criminal background, we're not making exceptions for you. It just. There is no exceptions. There. Zero exceptions. If you're over here, you committed a crime while you're inside the United States, and you're not assistant in the United States, you're going home. There's no exceptions to that. If you're over here and you've overstayed your visa, you haven't changed your status, or you came in illegally, you haven't changed your status, you claimed asylum, and you have no asylum claim, there's nothing I can do for you. It's the same thing. If

[A]

so. So many things to pick apart here. One of the things that I really do despise in the immigration Debate as a whole. Is this focus on. Oh, we're focusing on the criminal aliens here. We want to remove the worst of the worst, okay? If you. If you're here and you've committed a crime, there's no mercy for you. We're getting rid of you, okay? Just by you being in the United States, by being here illegally, by overstaying a visa, by committing immigration fraud, by marrying somebody when your visa is overstayed, you are a criminal, motherfucker. Stop making this ridiculous distinction between people. It's like every one of these people who are in this country is here illegally. You are in violation of a crime. Get rid of these people, okay? Stop splitting hairs and saying, oh, well, you know, if you have a parking ticket or something, that makes you a criminal. If you've been speeding or if you're caught with the drug possession or something. It's like, dude, I don't care if you've been here for four years. I don't care if you've been here for five years. I don't care if YOU've been here for 20 years and YOU've married somebody who's an American, okay? We've been talking about this for years on this show now with a myriad of issues. Whether it relates to rising health care costs, whether it relates to the cost of everyday products, because our country is just overflowing with so many people. You know, whether it's our national parks, our energy consumption, whether it's things like groceries, the prices artificially brought up because of demand. Same thing with housing, all these people. It's like, we're not just focusing on the small percentage of people who are here in the United States illegally and you're here as immigrants that have committed violent crimes. It's like, what is it, like, 5% of people are, like, violent offenders, you know, or something like that? By maybe more. Who knows? Like, the numbers are so difficult to actually find as to how many people are here already. So, yeah, that's the first thing I want to say about this. It's just. I hate this weasel word that people are always talking about. It's like, oh, we got to focus on the criminal aliens. Like, no, how about we just get rid of all of them, dude? Get rid of literally all of them.

[C]

Well, I mean, doesn't this 900,000 number he threw out there pretty much cancel out anything that we've heard about deportations?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, that's the other thing, too, you know, I mean, I think it's like, if we were charitable with the Best interpretations and the best numbers that came out last year is that they deported and removed 750,000 people, and then they said they doubled that number with people who left of their own accord. So it's like if we're being the most charitable. So they got rid of a hundred. They got rid of 1.5 million people last year, and you naturalized 900,000. So it's like, okay, so we're net down 400,000 since the beginning of the Trump administration. And how many people did Biden let in? Around 30 million that we know of.

[C]

Well, here, you know, here's another thing is I spoke to Greg Bovino this weekend and we talked for a while

[E]

and

[C]

not on the show. There's not an interview coming. This was a private conversation. All those people in the administration that you think are immigration hawks, they're not. They're politicians, they're actors. That's why he left, because he realized that none of these people are serious. All the names that, you know, the names. I'm not going to name check anyone for Bovino's sake. But all the names that you think, oh, yeah, that guy's based on. Nope, nope. They're politicians. They're just, they're just saying what, what they think people need to hear. And are there people on the ground who want deportations and who are trying to do their best? Absolutely. But they're all getting, basically, every time they try to do something, someone steps in the way and it's, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, there's no plans to trust here and all. And I think what we said on our election night stream was all we wanted was deportations. That's it. And here we are.

[A]

And when you.

[D]

I must have missed the rally with Trump when he is running when he said mass deportations, but also mass naturalizations. I must have missed that one. But it's really disappointing even, even if you can say some immigration number. And I guess this is what really frustrates me is seeing the people on our side of the aisle saying, oh, we are doing it, or you just need to wait. Or it's in the plans. And it's like mass deportations didn't mean closing the border and then slightly deporting criminals. Like in the mass deportations. That's what we all knew. That's what we all signed up for. That's what we voted for. And they keep getting the rug pull to have them change the way they report the numbers. So they're now including like self deportations in the numbers. And hiding what kind of numbers they're showing it all speaks to. Like, it's just a con game. It always has been a con game. And it's going to keep playing it as long as people are still along to defend it. And that's what really gets me is so many people are defending. No, you don't understand. Mass deportations are coming. And I think at this point it's, we're not new in the administration. We've been here. If he had the political will, if the executive branch had the political will to do it, they would have done it. They didn't do it. And so thinking anything bigger is going to come in the future. I hope I'm wrong, but it, to me, it's like doubtful that that's going to happen. And you just got to realize that.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's. We said it at the time and we were, you know, yelled at and criticized and, you know, screamed at from the rooftops by all manner of people, you know, when we had the very unpopular opinion shortly after the Minnesota showdown with the antifa crowd, that this was a complete and total loss from the Trump administration. And I don't know how you could say anything other than that at this point. Okay, it's like the absolute peak and the absolute height of, you know, the mass deportations is in the public eye and they just took a complete backseat to it and they basically capitulated in every way. We still have basically everybody who was out there protesting that is still out there on the streets. We've learned from this that they have had internal memos and internal, you know, like taps on the shoulder saying, hey, don't be so public with the deportations and tone them down a little bit. We still aren't getting the massive giant work rates, raids that we actually really need to do. And, you know, again, like, even if you weren't going to go about and like, do the physical, okay, we're gonna go knock on every single door in this country and we're gonna remove people and fling them over the southern border on a trebuchet. Right. Even if you weren't gonna do that, you could do other things that we've talked about on the show where you just make it very, very difficult for these people to be here and just, just live in everyday life. English is the national language of the United States. We're not having other languages on any official documents or anything like this. We're cutting off all immigrants, illegal or legal or otherwise, all non United States citizens, access to Any government funding or spending whatsoever. No snap, no PPE loans, no mortgages, none of this. Okay, we could tax remittances, we could do all these kinds of things just to make it very unpleasant for people to be here. Okay? And they won't do it. And the chief reason why they won't do it is because they don't want the economy to crash. Well, they don't want people who are invested and keeping wages artificially low and housing artificially high in the stock market. Artificially high. No, that's. There's just too many interests here to actually do what needs to be done to fix the country. So again, we're like, basically, you know, when it comes down to all of like, basically at the end it's like, okay, so if we keep these numbers at pace, which I see no evidence to suggest that they're gonna magically like ramp up after the midterms here or something. I don't think anybody is admitting at this point that the Republicans are gonna somehow sweep and get into more positions of power than they are right now. You know, I think at this point everyone's just arguing over how bad it's going to be. So what, like at the end of the Trump administration, we're gonna have a net like 1 million people have left the country. It's like, we all know it's not enough, man. We all know it's not enough. And it's like, yeah, it's great that some people in ICE have gotten some training on the ground of what it's like to actually be part of some of these immigration and deportation raids. It's great that this issue has been in the national conversation more than it has been ever before. But this is just not enough. This is not what we wanted. This is not what we all know actually needs to be done to fix the situation. And we all know when the next Democrat comes back and charged, their gonna ramp it up even worse than when Biden did. And we just got that ridiculous ruling from the Supreme Court upholding birthright citizenship. So it's like, what are we doing here, man? What are we doing here?

[D]

It. If there's one, one thing that I think this topic, especially for the people I talk to and people really in support of it, one good thing to come out of it is I have a lot more people thinking, okay, no one's gonna save us. No one's coming to save us. There is no Mecca, super based Caesar coming to take over this country and make it right. And in the end, like real power and politics plays out in the people. And if people aren't willing to take those actions and they're looking for someone else to save them, you're always going to kind of get this. So if there's one white pill, I see it's people being like, okay, no one's coming to save me. I have to save myself. I have to start doing stuff to make my community better. And if the more people we can get to do that, the. I think the better we can actually create change on the ground. Yeah, it won't be nationally fixing anything, but we can fix our communities. We can start pushing harder on the local areas where we can actually make effort. That takes manpower, that takes organization. So if there's one good thing from all this, I think there's a lot of enthusiasm from guys on our side with this administration. And whether you want to blame Trump or not, I don't really care what you do. The results are the results. And so a political answer that's going to come in, just winning an election seems more and more unrealistic to people, which I think ultimately is a good thing.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

That.

[A]

That for sure. I mean, people are looking for alternatives more than ever, and that means that people are getting involved on the ground. I mean, you know, everyone should be joining an OGC chapter. You know, get. Get with people in your local communities, man, because that really is where the future is going to be. This massive leviathan that is the United States government, you know, is losing credibility by the day, and it's very soon gonna start losing functionality by the day as well, just given the caliber of people that they currently have running it, you know, I mean, you know, get active, fellas. Get active in your area. There really is no excuse at this point. I mean, one of the things I've really realized more than anything else over the last couple of years is that we basically, literally have to build everything ourselves. There is. There is no, like, going in and taking over these legacy institutions or what have you, especially at the federal level. It just cannot be done. You know, there is just this massive, like, rat's nest, Gordian knots that just needs a sword to come in and cut it. And that sword is just going to be a new institution, something new. It's like there's no reforming the FBI. There's no going in there and gutting it or removing these people and making it somewhat functional. It's like the FBI simply is going to have to be replaced with something. And, you know, unfortunately, just like everything else, it requires hard work and requires men to get together and form these new communities and these new organizations to eventually become something that will replace it. You know, the system is completely, you know, Trump was our best shot to reform the system from the inside. And I think you're very foolish if, you know, you think like, you know, whatever our reservations are about J.D. vance or anybody is like, you know, he's clearly the best shot we have going into 2028. But I think you're very foolish to think that he's going to be able to go in there with the same kind of energy that Donald Trump had. I, I think that is rapidly waning, especially as Trump is, you know, reaching the highest levels of unpopularity he's ever had with this Iran war stuff. And I, I think, I think J.D. vance's chances of being elected the next president of the United States are basically going now by the day, because he's going to have to defend this record. You know, they're, they're going to stick it to him. They really are. You know, it's like, oh, well, this was what Trump's record was in the last bit of years of his presidency. How do you defend that? And it's like, what does J.D. vance do? Like, go in there and say, oh, actually, this is, you know, not what I was with the whole time. I wasn't down for this. That it's like, well, you were on this podcast defending President Trump. Like, I can see it now. I already am predicting what the debate stage is going to be like in two years.

[C]

Oh, so, you know, I, I will suggest a reading, something for people to read. Vaclav Havel's the Power of the Powerless. This is, this is where we're going. And it's something people. I've, I read it for the first time, like six years ago during COVID and it is, it may help give you some ideas, just put it that way. Baklav Havel, the Power of the Powerless. Definitely a great read. I gotta re, I gotta reread it.

[D]

And if I could just hit on one thing you were saying, Red Hawkin, when you're talking about building these institutions, and it sounds big, it sounds overwhelming, but, like, if you look at the history, the people, we are our ancestors and what they built. The hospitals weren't built by government, it was built by people. Orphanages, burying widows, fire departments. Like, all this infrastructure started when people got together and organized it and did things. And never underestimate what well organized, smart, intelligent white men can put together and get going without any help.

[F]

At all.

[D]

And it's just. We just have to stop. Stop believing in this myth that you need government to save you, because it won't.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I think this is to piggyback off of your point, Dennis. I think this is another point that we have these, like, memes that weasel into our brains, you know, throughout our childhood or throughout our entire lives, going through the education system or just growing up in a country. You know, I really think, especially for millennials, I think that sometimes we don't really take stock and examine kind of just the. You know, we're going to get into this discussion when we talk about these burritos in a second here, but just the actual living conditions of growing up in the age that we did in the United States, where you were constantly told as a white man that you're pathetic and you can't do anything, and you're the result of all the world's problems. I really do think that a lot of these memes weasel their way into our brains and lead us into inaction. And it's like, well, dude, like, the American man pacified an entire continent over a 200 year period. And we had a race war, basically, with hostile engines to conquer this place. Built every single institution from the ground up, constructed the tallest buildings the world had ever seen. We built the railroad across the country. We made the most prosperous nation ever. It's like, we did that. Our people did that. It wasn't immigrants, wasn't anybody else. It was white American men who did this. And we could do it again. You know, I'm constantly talking about this with people. It's like, listen here. Like, we are all we have, you know, you listening to the show us on this panel, Men of the ogc, we are all we have. And fortunately for us, that's enough.

[D]

Amen.

[A]

So, all right. Okay, everybody in the chat, buckle up. You know, you came for your slop. You wanted your big story, you know, so here it is. We're gonna serve it to you right on a Mexican platter. Okay, we gotta discuss burrito gate here. You know, first of all, before we actually get into the nefarious characters here who have been pushing this stuff, I just want to say at the very front, this is just like Politics 101 here. This is just terrible. You're going into midterms and you're trying to tell people that the, you know, affordability crisis isn't real, actually. And in fact, you guys are spoiled for expecting a country to have stable pricing. You know, it's like this is just bad politics. This is just pathetic. This is fucking amateur hour here. It didn't work when Biden was in office, and his press secretary, that fucking black chick, I forget her name or whatever, came up there and tried to claim that, like, eggs. Do you guys remember leading up to the election where Donald Trump actually had a press conference where he had an entire sprawl of groceries behind him? At one of these press conferences, one of them was, like, a carton of eggs and had a sign over it. You know, it's like, we all know that prices are out of control in this country, and they have been literally since I've been born. Basically, prices are just completely out of control. But, you know, and then we have the newest batch of economic data really related to the value of the United States dollar, and inflation is up 29% since 2020. Just like, this isn't normal. This isn't normal, guys, okay? You know, you're not, like, you're not supposed to live in a country where every 10 years, your currency, you know, is inflated away by, you know, almost one third. This isn't normal, okay? And I'm tired of people trying to tell me it's not. It's like, oh, well, you guys in your avocado toast, and you guys, you know, are ordering doordash and stuff, and that's why you can't afford a house. It's like, are you out of your mind? You know, how could you possibly spend, like, $400,000 of your lifetime, like, ordering doordash? There's just no way. There's absolutely no way that one that a human being could do this. And that's why they're not able to buy a home. Like, come on.

[C]

And you know the thing that I immediately thought when I saw Joel Berry this tweet? I don't believe him. I think he's lying.

[A]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[C]

I mean, he's lying. He's not. In another tweet, he said, oh, yeah, we take beans, and, you know, we. We thicken up the meat by. By putting beans into it. You made enough money at the. At the Babel, at the Jerusalem Bee, and now you're a producer for Jeremy Boreing, who has tons of money. Fuck you. Stop fucking lying. This guy's just a born liar.

[A]

This is ridiculous. Like, you can't even get, like, a $20 meal at, like, fucking Chick Fil a for one guy. You mean to tell me that your family of. I think Joe Barry's got, like, three kids or. No, he's got the family of eight. He says it right here. So, yeah, a family day for 20 bucks. Bull fucking shit, dude. Show me the receipts. There's no way. There's absolutely no way this is true. And I know this is true because listen, okay? I'm a guy who's done intermittent fasting for going on six years. At this point, I have one big meal a day and one tiny ass meal in the morning before, you know, I go into the office. You know, I have like a muffin in the morning, like a glass of milk, basically, and they have a huge meal at the end of the day. And I've been doing this for years, okay? And for me, one guy living on that, okay, I spend between like 80 and $140 a week on groceries, okay? That's just like me, one, one person, okay? I can't imagine what it was like. As a matter of fact, I can't imagine this. I was talking to a friend of ours today, Pete, who has a family of seven, okay. And he was talking about the. The budget that he sets aside for groceries for his family of seven is 1,000 to $1,200 a month, okay? And if we are to do, you know, basic, very, very basic stuff like Dave Ramsey, you know, financial planning kind of deal here, okay, 10% of your budget is supposed to be for food and stuff like that, okay? So if we extrapolate, you know, $1,000 or $1200 a month, okay, and pull that out over an entire year, that means 10% of a 120 grand, like, income, okay, is going to food. It's like something's wrong there. Telling you right now. I mean, we, we brought up that study recently, a couple of weeks back or maybe a couple of months back, that the. Actually the true, like, middle class wages, if you were to, you know, take into account all the various other things, like inflation, rising costs, you know, stagnant wages and everything. Like, really, actually, to be middle class in the United States, to the same extent middle class was 40 years ago, you need to be making like $300,000 a year. It's like this, this illusion of, like, oh, you need to make 100k, that's firmly middle class. It's like, I don't believe you. I don't believe you at this point.

[D]

Not at all. And, you know, I, I agree with Pete. Joel's insincere at the very least, right? And this came out with a bunch of different messages about the prices aren't really that high, right? So seemed very coordinated to me that all my whole timeline filled with telling me I'm lazy and that's why my prices are high and not inflation. And if you're just looking at it from like, if this, how we're playing politics, like this is really bad politics, like you were saying in the beginning, like I saw one guy, I'll leave him nameless. But y' all know the one eyed bastard, he said you're a communist. If you care about the price of like what things cost, like how ridiculous and like unaware are you of like an average person and what they live, of course, the price of food, the price of gas, all these things, they, they impact your family, how you live, what you can do, and to like, try to convince them that like no, you're, the numbers you see aren't real actually, and it's actually just because you need to learn to live, you know, more economically is so disingenuous. But it's also terrible politics. Like you want people to vote for you, yet your solution to them is to shame them and tell them no, prices aren't high, you're delusional and actually you're just a bad person or you're, you know, irresponsible and you young people need to pull yourselves up by bootstraps. Like that never works on a political level, if this is what I think it is, which is like coordinating messaging to try to defeat the narrative that prices have gone up for the midterms. And it's just poor politics. And just, it really makes you see how the regime, the regime is like politics are just, they're losing any kind of traction with any kind of normal person who's not just inculcated by their doctrine in Fox News and boomerism.

[A]

It's like the stock market is reaching all time highs with inflated dollars. So therefore there actually are no price increases at the grocery store or there's no price increases in gas. With this retarded war that we started for Israel, one of the most major choke points in the entire world for oil hasn't had routine shipping through it in over six months now. And gas prices have gone up well over a dollar everywhere across the country and are continuing to rise. Mind you, our strategic oil reserves are being depleted by the day just to prevent the absolute skyrocketing prices of oil and gasoline. You know, it's like eventually the chickens are going to come home to roost on that front too, and we can't really last much longer on that one. In addition to the fact that we're running low on stockpiles of long range missiles. But, you know, I don't want to turn this into Iran war discussion here, but. Yeah, this is just ridiculous, man. This is absolute clown world that, you know, really what this is, okay, is that one of the other arguments that I really despise that older conservatives will throw against young people who, you know, it's just so ridiculous. Like, for years, conservatives are talking about, you know, we need to get ways to appeal to young people. We need to get young people to appear at all these conservative events. All we have is a bunch of old heads here or what have you, and then you just like spit in their face when they bring up very real economic issues that they have, especially as it relates to young men for one big issue, which is courtship and finding a wife and finding families. Okay? Like when you prefer women in the workforce and women are now out earning, men and women are the ones who are buying homes more than men. And we all know this just simply from like the dating markets and also how women are wired. It's like women aren't attracted to men who make less of them. Okay? So if you want to talk about family formation and people having kids and people going to church and all this stuff, it's like, don't, don't like throw this shit in their face when it's obviously a very real problem for people. No, and, and you can just like show something in the most easy sense possible. Okay? I remember when I was in college and I was in high school and all throughout growing up. What was the commercial on tv? Five dollar footlongs from Subway. Okay. What a joke. If you were to walk into that store now, today, they're probably like 10 bucks, man. Absolute clown show, man. You're trying to tell me that things are cheaper?

[C]

Yeah, we mostly eat at home. When I lived, when I lived in Atlanta, I used to go to Steak Shack every once in a while. And I think the last time I went was like 20, 21. And it was like for a burger, for a double burger and, and fries, and the soda times two was like 23, 24 bucks. Just happened to stumble into a Steak Shack this past weekend. First time I've been in there a long time. That was, that was $50. That's basically a fast food place.

[A]

It's crazy. How's a young man supposed to take a girl on a date, you know, to a restaurant if he's paying 200 bucks a pop every single day? It's like, come on.

[C]

Well, you know what? The cheapest restaurants around are actually Mexican places and Chinese places. So basically you have to friggin. You can't even go to an American restaurant, An American owned restaurant.

[A]

Well, here's the. Here's the other thing too, that is undercutting this whole thing. It's very interesting that the discussion is centered around burritos as opposed to burgers. It really just shows you, you know, how like how infested we are with immigrants, that this is the discussion that people are having. Right. You know, but, but the other thing too, that is, you know, the specter over this whole discussion is that, yeah, they're talking about like, oh, so you, young man, growing up in America, the most prosperous nation in the history of the world, the biggest military with the most land, with the most natural resources. You know, the people have worked the hardest to give all the stuff so I could leave this country in a better place when I found it. You think you are entitled to go to a store and get a burrito that doesn't cost $20? What are you talking about? Of course the system's rigged against you, sir. That's called just life. That's called being a hard worker, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, you know, what do you think? Are you entitled something? Yes, I am entitled. I'm an American. I live in the greatest place in the history of the world. I shouldn't have to be forced to live in a hovel like the fucking immigrants we import into this country from their shitholes, okay? It's the same thing with our wages not increasing, okay? They want us to accept living like slaves from the third world. They want us to work like Chinese in sweatshops for nothing. They want us to work like Mexicans. And then you wonder why everything goes to shit. You wonder why all the new housing is crap. You wonder why you go into a Home Depot and everything sucks. You wonder why all the products you buy are completely broken and shatter apart every five minutes. And again, this is one of the things I wanted to bring up when we were having this discussion earlier. It's like so many people get caught up in arguing over numbers on some of these issues. Like things like, oh, flat screen TVs and subscriptions to Netflix and everybody has a computer in their house and you guys have access to video games, everything like this. But. But just about like the overall degradation of growing up in the country that is infested with 100 million foreigners, okay? It's like all of your public places have been taken from you, okay? Basically, you can't go to a zoo you can't go to an amusement park. You can't go to public places because there's some guy sitting around who's shooting up drugs. You know, the crime is out of control. Everything smells like weed. Nobody speaks your language. You can't go out into the restaurants and the bars anymore because it's infested with now. I mean, this is definitely a scene that we were picking. This is definitely something we were picking up in the. In the red pill scene, in the pickup artist scene. You know, dating back to the mid 2010s, that women would stop going to nightclubs because they've been infested with Indians now. And they're off putting. They just go up to them and just immediately start touching people. And it's like, okay, well, though, women aren't going to show up to the nightclubs, and of course the men aren't going to show up now, too. So that whole industry is gone. It was completely new. Because of COVID everywhere we go, like the white man is public enemy number one. Everyone is given preferential hiring over you. Everyone's giving preferential loans. Like just the actual, you know, the. Just existing in the country is just so much more difficult than it used to be. You know, for people who grew up in a high trust society, you know, it gets to you. It's taxing. And I don't want to, you know, make this into a, you know, like one of these gay, like, you know, therapy, bro kind of things where it's like, oh man, woe is me kind of deal. But like, no, like, seriously, the country is in a shittier place. Like both physically, actually, just by trash on the street, but also just the miasma that's in the air just going around places now. Everything sucks. Everything's broken. There's no recourse on anything. You call up your Internet provider and complain about the fact that you don't have access to high speed Internet in the middle of a downtown area in the United States. And you know that all the other companies are exactly the same. You know, there's no point in switching. There's no point in complaining. You know, there's no real, you know, no quote, unquote, free market capitalism going on here where there's competition for a good sir, a reasonable good at a fair price. You know, there's none of that anywhere. All the airlines are like this too, you know, like, they all treat you like they all make their seats way tinier so they could pack in more people. Everything is just inside.

[D]

And you know, the Part that really gets me is this sounds exactly like the same kind of nonsense coming out of the Great Reset. You'll eat your bugs and you'll like it. It's the same kind of way. You'll live in your shitty home, you won't afford food and you'll like it because we tell you that, like, this is what you should live. And this is. It's actually not anything against you. Joel Berry had another tweet I think it was about. The system's not against you. It doesn't work this way. And all this stuff, it's just this total like psyop every day to just make you accept less than you know what you're worth and what your country can be. And hopefully that these kind of things, they're so clowny that people are picking up on like, no, I don't have to accept this as the way we live. We're Americans. We are the city on the hill. So why don't we start acting like it and stop accepting table scraps from a regime that hates us?

[C]

That tweet that Joel Berry put out was bad news. The system is rigged against you. It's rigged against everyone. It's called life. One of the, one of the people in one of the group chats I'm in, said just screenshot that and every time he posts about Israel and something bad with Israel, you know, some. Oh, poor Israelis. Just post that under it. Just post it that. Hey, bad news, Israelis. Systems rigged against you. It's rigged against everyone. It's called life.

[A]

Exactly. They would never accept this argument for their pet issue ever.

[C]

Yeah, I thought Roman helmet guy, everybody who knows that account.

[A]

Oh yeah, he's a good account. He's funny.

[C]

He had a good post today. He said if I hear another boomer conservative bitching about Gen Z ordering doordash, I'm going to become a communist. It's true their grandparents always cooked homemade meals, but that's because grandma stayed at home and grandpa had a union job and no one could reach him after five. They had a house. They had a house with a full kitchen and three kids by 25. Meanwhile, half of Gen Z Men are forced to compete with the entire population of South America for some 12 hour long shift H vac job that barely pays the rent. They're 30 and no one cooks for them because they can't find any woman who will marry them when they can't even afford a starter home in the ghetto. The other half of Gen Z Men are busting their ass competing with the entire populations of India and China for some 70 hour a week PowerPoint job that asks them for up updates on the slides at 3am they can't find anyone to cook for them either because every woman around them is convinced that being a mother and cooking for a man is beneath them because they're going to save the world when they become VP of Marketing at Megacore in 20 years.

[A]

Banger tweet. It belongs in a museum.

[C]

I mean, it's just these people are, you know, and my parents were boomers and I suffered. I, I suffered their, you know, my whole life. Same kind of. The kind of people who, you know, didn't do, didn't. They didn't do bad in life, but they didn't do good in life. And if you had bitched about a ton of stuff, but if you bitched about something, oh, look what we built. What'd you build? Shut up.

[A]

I, I really hate this like that. I, I don't know where this comes from. I really don't. Maybe somebody has written on this that I'm just not familiar with. But I, I do not understand where this comes from. Where boomer conservatives are constantly in competition with their kids to see who had it worse. It's just, why, like, how is this productive, man? It's like, you know, there's a famous quote like the old should only stick around long enough to assist the young. And the pyramid is just completely inverted in our society. And it was just thrown. Shown in. It was shown for everyone to see during COVID where we shut down the entire world so people could live an extra couple months. I was like, you know, maybe we actually should have a healthy conversation about what it means to be suffering, what it means to suffer, and what mortality is like and what the afterlife is like and what I'm leaving for the next generation. That's why, like, you know, a person who should get nothing but praise in our scene is Johan Kurtz with this book. Why am I forgetting it right now? Leaving a legacy. Yeah, that's a, that's the name of it. You know, it's just, we just have such an unhealthy understanding of, you know, getting into our next story right here about living historically, you know, but that'll be a nice tie in for what we're going to talk about next. But, you know, does anybody else have anything to say on Burrito Gate here? You know, I mean, I, I guess one final thing I'll say is that, well, you know, we were talking about how I hope people aren't buying this argument. Well, guess what? None of them are. You know, one person that I would recommend people listen to is my good friend Aaron Clary, who's been tracking this for a long time on his show. It's like the Gen Z laying down generation. And you know, kudos to them, honestly. You know, corporate America has been unacceptable for a very, very long time for people. And I forget who Burden did a show with not too long ago. I have to go back and figure out his name. Maybe somebody in the chat will know off the top of their head, but he did the show maybe like three months ago or what have you. And it really struck me when he was having this conversation with this guy who was about your age, Pete, maybe a little bit older or something, like a late Gen X guy maybe or something, I forget. But he was just like, no, I'm proud of Gen Z. You know, corporate America sucked when I was in it and I think it's interesting that these guys are trying to find alternatives. I wish I could have, you know, when I was that age. And that's just such a rare thing to hear from people these days. You know, it's like, yeah, you know, corporate America sucks. We all know it. The HR regime we live under blows. It's not healthy for anybody, okay? We should be looking for alternatives and we should be changing the way that people are actually working in this country.

[D]

And you know, it's actually the best time to do it. There's so many more options to break away from this normal corporate college route of like going through the system and just becoming a cog in the machine. And now with the Internet, the way that things going, there are lots of opportunities to do this I did in my own life, which has been very helpful from getting out being a wage slave. And lots of people should be more focused on that, especially young men, on building that kind of sovereignty. Because it's about the only way you can get any freedom left to escape the machine that's trying to pump you out to be a good worker and under the, you know, 40 year old lesbian HR manager who's gonna govern every speech you make and anything you say. And so one, the one thing I'll say is lots of people within the OGC are working on this very thing. So if you're interested in doing this stuff, get with a group of men, especially the ogc, and start figuring this out. Because you can change your whole life if you can break out of the system as much as you, you can.

[A]

Hell yeah, join the 1099 master race brothers, you know, do it. So, Pete, any final thoughts?

[C]

Oh, nothing that won't get us shut down.

[A]

Nice. All right, well, we were touching on this. This is going to be our last story that we're talking about tonight, but we were touching about on this with this story. But speaking of living historically. Well, hey, you know, good friend of the show, old Thomas Triple seven, Thomas Cyr, got a shout out on one of the largest podcasts in the world this week. Hey, why don't we show this clip real quick?

[B]

For a people to live historically, meaning to feel themselves as part of a chain of being that stretches back before they were born and will go on after they live, that, that is actually something that is very dangerous, and that is something to be broken down and destroyed. I'm writing a foreword for a book. You know, this is. I always tell people that you got to read. You got to read everything. You got to read stuff, even by people who, you know, all your friends or maybe even you think of as, you know, on the extreme side. I'm writing the forward for a book on the Nuremberg system right now by an author, Thomas Cyr. And it's, you know, he's a. He rocks his leather jacket with iron cross, you know, patches on it, walking around the streets of Chicago, right? So, like, most people would think, wow, that's an. That's an extreme dude. And he kind of is in certain ways, but he's. He's a dude who wakes up with a book in his face, goes to sleep with a book in his face, and reads the entire time in between. He's a good writer and a good researcher and just a very smart guy. He's worth reading. He's one of those guys who would not have been available to any of us to read until very recently. You know, it's one good thing that the Internet has done. It's broken apart. That means you say the Nuremberg system.

[C]

What does that mean? Yeah.

[A]

So, you know, it's always nice to see a. A friend who definitely deserves such recognition getting a shout out like this. You know, I. One of the things that I want to stress in this conversation right now, and we've talked about this as it relates to getting involved locally, whether it's getting out of the rat race of the everyday, you know, slog of what it is to be a wage earner in the United States today, or, you know, that the fact that so many of the institutions at the federal level are just completely unreformable and you have to get involved locally like this you know, it really just has to stress that it's really important to have good friends and to understand what loyalty actually is. You know, we hear, like, this discussion all the time. It's like, oh, well, you got to be loyal to Trump or loyal to Trump or what have you got to be loyal to the Republican Party or what have you. It's like, dude, like, Donald Trump doesn't know my name. Donald Trump doesn't know, like, my history, my wants, and my wants and desires. We've never shook hands or what have you, you know, and the other thing, too, is, like, you know, Thomas is my friend, Thomas, and I disagree on all kinds of stuff, but, like, I'm not going to go and, like, chimp out over it or something like this. Like, he's my friend. He's been there for me when things are, things matter. That's what's actually important here, not these, like, abstract terms. When people try to graft loyalty onto something like 10,000 miles away from you, like, loyalty is the people you spend your time with. Loyalty is the guys who look out for you when the going gets rough. That's what's actually important.

[D]

Yeah, I got to meet Thomas for the first time recently, and, man, yeah, I don't agree with everything he says, but the. The character of the person speaks louder than anything he has to say. Although he has many smart things that have educated me so far and learning more about things I never knew about. But it was. It was good to see him get shout out, but it was also a healthy reminder that he was immediately attacked and then banned from X, which really just hit the nail on the head about exactly where the censorship regime really is. And, you know, the minute he gets a shout out on the biggest podcast out there and has a chance to really blow up, he's immediately censored and shut down, which was really unfortunate to see. But I love Thomas. I think he's a great guy and. And I'm honored to that I got to meet with him, talk to him, and he's so down to earth. It's like one of those people you meet and you've been listening to his podcast for years and you get to meet him in person. He's just more amazing guy than you could ever imagine. So I was happy to see him get a shout out and get that recognition he sorely deserves.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I've. I've had the pleasure of taking road trips across the country with Thomas on multiple occasions, and. Oh, it's. It's amazing because you Just get like, it's like you get your own private podcast basically. You know, he'll just go off like 3 hours non stop as we're driving across, you know, the middle of the country. And they're like, oh, like, should we stop for lunch? Oh yeah, we should probably do that. It's really, really cool stuff. But go ahead, Pete, I'm sure you have a bunch to say here.

[C]

Yeah. And never forget that when Daryl appeared on an inquisition episode and, and what did he say his goal was? His goal was Tucker sends people to him and he sends people to me and Thomas. I mean, he's playing a part. Let him cook. One of the things I pointed out about the episode was when the inevitable Jews burging from the Jews and their, and their Shabbos started about this, it was definitely to try to take your attention away from the rest of the episode because basically what Daryl did in that episode was he gave a very plain English, watered down version of the Nuremberg regime and living historically and the things that have been stolen from us. So that one group who gets to live historically because of World War II. Yeah, I mean, they, they don't want you to listen to the rest of that episode because it explains how we got here. And you know, it's very important to, to understand how we got here, the implications of, of what, what the Nuremberg regime has done to us. And you know, it. I mean, I had never seen anyone, you know, that was as close as you're ever going to get to Thomas being on, you know, being on Tucker because he, he, Daryl went on there and just basically explained a lot of what Thomas was talking about the first episode he was ever on my show, just explaining our situation from a political standpoint, a metaphysical standpoint, from what the Zeitgeist is. So, yeah, it was beautiful to watch. Patted myself on the back a bunch of times. Probably broke my hand doing it because I was the one who came up with the idea for Daryl to write the forward to it. And yeah, it was. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that a lot. And I especially enjoy the reaction to it.

[A]

You know, one of the things that you could really tell, especially as a man, you know, the kinds of people that you should trust and the kinds of people you should be around is you want to surround yourself with people who celebrate your success. Okay. And aren't petty about it, are trying to undercut you, are trying to weasel around and say things behind your back or what have you, you know, like, yeah, I'm happy, I'm happy for Thomas. That he got this big shout out. The man absolutely deserves it. Okay, but the other thing I want to stress on this as well is that the reactions that I saw to people who really should know better, man, and I saw some extremely shameful, short sighted behavior over the last couple of days from people who were, you know, criticizing people always do it. It seems like people just have a stick up their ass for Tucker Carlson and hard on for going after him, man. And I really just don't understand why. And it happens almost every single day now where somebody takes a 45 second clip of a two and a half hour Tucker Carlson episode, posts it all over Twitter to an audience of people who also didn't watch the episode at all. And do you know who did this all the time? Was the left. The left would do this all the time. They would take clips of people outside of contacts, try and get people canceled, try and get people censored, go after people like this. And I'm just sitting here, I'm like, these are two guys who are giving a shout out to one of my friends. You know, this is good, this is a good thing. My, my friend is getting recognition that he deserves here. My, my, you know, the, the center of people who I care about, right? If we're talking about, you know, Dunbar's number or what have you, it's like, like yeah, Thomas is in that. It, it's very frustrating to me where people are getting into basically the latest like Twitter craze or what have you, throwing people under the bus. They should, really should know better, man. It's very, very shameful behavior getting trapped up into these Twitter arguments with people. And really it was on display in this next thing that we're going to talk about right here, which was the stream that Tucker did yesterday, which now I gotta say I don't, I, I don't think a lot of people knew what this was actually going to be. You know, we had this like announcement a couple days in advance, you know, what was going to actually be said in this episode that Tucker did yesterday. You know, it's like people are saying, oh, he's gonna announce a third party. And there was that picture that was going around of him and Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene and a bunch of other people doing like a roundtable kind of deal. And Tucker basically just does a solo 90 minute broadcast yesterday listing out 10 things that Americans really should be aspiring to, what America really ought to be. And like, did really anybody disagree with any of these? You know, it's like, okay, the first thing, America. America's system should be fair. The same rules should apply to the presidents, federal agents, the elites class. Just Jeffrey Epstein, whose impunity Carlson cast as emblematic of an Epstein class enriching themselves through corrupt system. Okay, I don't think anybody's going to disagree with that at all. It's obvious. Obvious. It's part of the reason why we're here in the first place is that we all know, like when Nancy Pelosi performs better on the stock market investing index than Warren Buffett. Okay, we know that system isn't fair. Okay? We see it everywhere we go with Somalis prodding hundreds upon hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars. No, we know that system's not fair. Okay, moving on. The next thing sovereign. Carlson claimed Israel pushed the United States in the Iran war. Well, the Trump administration literally said that. So yes, through bribery or threat or both, most likely. While describing foreign laboring, corporate control, government and high interest debt as forms of slavery. Again, obviously true. Can't talk about usury because that pisses off certain people, as we know. But yeah, does anyone really think that American America as a country or the American people are sovereigns themselves? We just had this whole discussion about burrito gate here, about how a large class of conservative pundits don't give a shit at all. For some of the people who are most active coming up in their base about the economic woes that they're facing, yeah, nobody agrees that America is sovereign as such. Obviously something we should be behind. Productive America should rebuild farming, manufacturing and craftsmanship while rejecting an economic an economy dominated by finance, real estate, speculation, surveillance systems and weapons. Again, obviously true. This is something we were talking about in the 2024 election cycle. The three things that the OGC was looking for most in that election cycle was mass deportations, no. Foreign wars, energy independence and reshoring of America. Everybody knows we should be building things here. We talked about this with Maha at the beginning of the episode. About how America's food is poison, about how everybody's on drugs. Obviously something we should all get behind. Beautiful number four. Carlson alleged that urban planners deliberately uglified American cities and portrayed brutalist architecture, graffiti, public drug use and violent crime as deliberate attacks on the public. That's obviously true. We discussed two weeks ago on the show about flock cameras being put up everywhere and actually crime is going up. If we have this great big surveillance state that we live under, why is there a single migrant rapist in our country? Why is there a single murder that goes unsolved why is there a single video of a black gang banger in South Chicago with a fully automatic switchy on his Glock? Why is that guy not in jail? Why is it that every single one of our urban centers and urban cities looks worse than the third world? We have homeless people everywhere. We have people shitting in the streets, we have drug use everywhere. That God awful looking presidential library that Barack Obama just constructed looks like fucking hell. You know, we have some of the most beautiful land in the world, but we never create beautiful things. When was the last time, like a church was made with beautiful stained glass imagery? Healthy. Number five. Carlson embraced RFK jr's food agenda, talked about that earlier on the show, called for universal sobriety, and said widespread use of drugs such as Xanax, Adderall and SSRIs had left Americans half addled. Again, obviously true. I would add birth control into this as well, but Tucker didn't mention that. But it's still the same root of the same issue. Okay, it's like, obviously true. Americans aren't healthy, not just related to their weight and other preventable diseases, but our people are just neurotic. You know, we're crazy. People are at each other's throats. You know, everybody's on edge all the time. Nobody's like relaxing anymore. I find it amazing when, you know, people can look on our Sunday shows that Charlemagne and myself are doing with our good friend Mr. D, where we're streaming on Twitter or watching old movies together. And we watched 1975's Jaws recently and just seeing like the ambient characters in the background of this WASPy town in the 1970s, it looks like it might as well be from Mars. That country just completely no longer exists. A movie like that accidentally captures what life actually was like in that part of the country. And the movie isn't meant to be a period piece. It literally was just supposed to be topical for the time it came out, but it accidentally has become like a time capsule in that way. Number six, honest government officials should be punished for lying to citizens. And most classified records, including the JFK assassination and 911 should be opened again. Obviously true. We know all of our politicians lie. We know everybody, everywhere at all times. Our journalists are lying, our politicians are lying, our news stations are lying, our employers are lying. Everybody's just lying all the time. Obviously not good for people deep down into the our core, into our soul. And I think the thing here that must be said the most is that, you know, we're halfway through this list. Like, this is an adult conversation. This is a legit, you know, discussion of not just the actual physical state of the United States, but the actual spiritual state of what has been done to us and what has happened to our country since the Nuremberg regime and what has been done to us and what actually needs to be done to fix it. And that it can't just be done by one election cycle or a couple executive orders. Our problems run so much deeper than that. We have to have a complete revival of the American soul that has been beaten down for such a long, long time. And that gets into this next point right here. Number seven, optimistic. Carlson argued that having children is a biological imperative in the foundation of long term thinking, while blaming aging and childless elites for policies that disregard future generations. I mean, again, we were just talking about this and one of the other stories we talked about tonight with the burrito gate stuff here is that we're just going to toss aside legitimate concerns about rising education costs, rising costs of food, rising costs of housing, the degradation of the family, the degradation of the relationships between men and women. Now, is anybody really optimistic for the future? I mean, it seems to me like all the young people today are getting in on cryptocurrency scams and stuff like this is the way to make it out of the rat race. That's not a sign of an optimistic people. Everyone's talking about sports betting and all the ads you see are like for cowshi for arresting special forces guys in the Venezuela raids because they made a $200,000 bet on a gambling site because even our guys who are in our military aren't being paid enough. The the spirit of American people is really tearing on the edge of a knife. Number eight, wisdom. Schools should teach how the physical world actually works and what he called unchanging facts about human nature, including innate differences between men and women. He also mentioned race on there as well, rather than credentials, screens and technological fads. Again, obviously true. We've covered it on the show dozens of times over the years of oh, Southside Chicago invests more money into the schooling system than entire states. We're going to give a laptop and an ipod or an iPad to every single kid and what do they do? They just go and pawn it off on the street for a quick buck. Now nobody is thinking to the long term sustainability of this place. Nobody's thinking about the land, nobody's thinking about the people, nobody's thinking about what their actions actually have in great chain of being. We have boomers that are spending their millions upon millions of dollars on cruises every single year. I see it every year in my tax office.

[F]

You know,

[A]

number nine, decent, the US should apologize and pay restitution for killing non combatants. Reverse Trump's Department of War, rebrand and stop funding allies to commit what Carlson called genocide, citing Israel. Yeah, it's obviously true now, I've talked about this on previous shows that, you know, it's just not good for our soul. Say what you will about, you know, like if you want to, quote, unquote, take sides, you know, in the Israel, Gaza conflict or what have you that, oh, well, both these people are bad because I don't want either of them in my country or whatever it is that you're going to say. You know, I just don't think it's good for us as a people. It's not good for the human soul for my tax dollars to be spent on missiles that blow up small, small little girls in schools. Oh, it's just, it's just not good for us, no matter how you slice it.

[C]

Well, and it's also, it. Look, white Europeans were never about slaughtering civilians.

[A]

No.

[C]

Does it happen? It happens, but that's not the goal. And it just goes to show exactly how Judaized we've become. If you're a person who's ever said, oh, just turn it into glass, just, you know, kill them all, you've been Judaized, you're no better than somebody who was just some Israeli who's calling for dropping, you know, for turning Gaza into glass to kill everyone there. You, you've just been Judaized. You're not white anymore. You don't think like a white person anymore.

[A]

This is never how white, white Christians have waged war. It's never how we've done things. This is like when people talk about all the time how they get you trapped into these various corruption rings at the highest level of government. Like things with the Epstein stuff is that.

[D]

Or cults.

[A]

Cults will do this behavior as well. Or they get you to do something that is just so outside the norm or so evil or so norm breaking that they have you locked in for forever because now you're one of us. Now we've caught you, we've caught you getting a massage from a 16 year old girl on a flight. We've got, we've got you locked in for forever. You know, we've got, we've got you now blowing up a school and then double tapping it with a Tomahawk missile, murdering 35 young girls or whatever the number was, you know, they make you become them and that's how they get you. Well, number 10, United States Carlson called for halting immigration until the effects of AI become clearer. Ending benefits for undocumented immigrants and making English the sole language of federal documents and ballots. I mean, again, obviously all this is true. You know, this was a conversation that was brought up recently when we celebrated the 250th anniversary of the United States. And people were contrasting that to the 200th anniversary of the United States. And just the countries are just complete night and day difference between each other now 200, everybody was ecstatic. Everyone was happy. There were historical reenactments and plays and brigades and special events on tv. Whole celebrations across the entire country celebrating our heritage and what we are, because we were all one people and we're not that anymore. And we could see that. You know, we just had the primaries yesterday and we saw that Abdul Al Kaboom win his primary in Michigan, for example. Does anyone think for a second that that guy is American? No, of course not. Of course not. A guy who showed up five seconds ago who barely speaks the language, wants to import more of his brethren that were also ended up here because we started another useless war for Israel. By the way, there's more Muslims in the United States after 911 than before. How could that ever happen? How could that ever be allowed to occur? Reporting people in their millions here when we're getting threats from all of our dude bros. Regardless if you think this is true or not, that AI is going to take over all of our white collar jobs and we're still importing people. This is just common sense here, all 10 of these right here. And this is what, and this is really what I wanted to get to at the end of this here is that it really just is such shameful and deceitful behavior that I've seen from so many people over the last 24 hours since this came out. All basically for Twitter clicks on like podcasts where they get like 800 viewers a piece now. It's just mind boggling to me that, you know, you're gonna lose your shit over something like this and make this about like, oh, starting a third party or something right here. What's like, like that wasn't the topic of this episode literally at all. There wasn't even a message, there wasn't even the start of saying a third party anywhere in that episode. And to make that, make that the summary of what this actually is, this adult conversation of what 10 very basic points that Americans should be able to get behind, especially people on the right who want to actually fix this country. And not just in a sense of. Of, you know, numbers on a screen, but the actual everyday lived experience of what it is to be an American. Just unbelievable how people are going out against this. I know I've done a lot of ranting here and a lot of conversation here, gentlemen. I've been sucking up all the air, but I wanted to get that off. Off my chest here. Any thoughts, gentlemen?

[D]

Well, I think this, it's, you know, Tucker's setting the narrative on a lot of these things, right? And setting downs and I think this realignment of narrative to like a very basic. I think almost if you're not politically crazy and, you know, complete leftists, even people on who are more liberal, can just look at this and agree with it, right? It's so much like what you talk to in politics. So when you're talking about bad politics with blaming people on burrito prices or whatever nonsense, and here's. There's actual common sense talking points that are way more about what America needs and what Americans want, right? Instead of talking about all the nonsensical issues that always seem to be the discussions of election. And I, I actually, you know, I really, I didn't expect anything from this. Tucker's not for us, like you guys have said many times. But I think there's a great podcast that I can send to anybody. Just be like, listen to this and tell me it doesn't make sense. And any normie will say, like, yeah, this all kind of makes sense, even if they disagree with a point here or a point there. And I think reshaping the narrative to this and doing this in this way was actually a good way to, like, try to realign the narrative on what we should actually be talking about instead of being daily slaves to whatever slop gets pushed on the timeline each day and that driving the. The news cycle. So if it's effective, I hope it really works. And the. It's funny because a lot of the people who use the Pannequins or the black pillars see something like this and go on the timeline all crazy and ignore what the actual point was and just make it out to whatever they need to be, which is really like trying to create panic over nothing. And that's what they're doing here. And it's so disingenuous. And it's like, actually, all this is really good.

[B]

And.

[D]

And more Americans hear this than 99% of the stuff they're listening to.

[C]

Look, 80 to 90% of this could be anything. Trump ran on 80 to 90% of it. But what's happened, he's turned his back on much of it, and he's concentrated more on to Israel and Iran. And. The cognitive dissonance, I think is. Is going to hurt a lot of people, because I don't know what the midterms are going to be. I actually think it could go either way. I think that actually Republicans could actually win a lot of elections in the midterms. But, I mean, if the first two years when you have both houses and you're not doing things that you were elected to do, why should we expect any different in the last two years? And then 2028 is up in the air and, you know, someone, please name me something that Trump has done since he's been in office that can't be reversed by a Democratic president in 2028, 2029, nothing. It's all been through the stroke of a pen. So, you know, I mean, that's. Some people call that black pilling only because they are relying completely on Trump to destroy their enemies for them, save them. And this club was created in a Biden presidency because we knew that the system was broken. The fact that anyone associated with the club or that's in our sphere changed their mind about the system being broken because Donald Trump got reelected really makes me question what was your purpose for joining in the first place when you were just going to abandon the mission because somebody got elected who said they were going to do something, which they're obviously not.

[A]

Well, I think we've said all we need to say about this one and get into these super chats because they are piling up tonight. But now, if people. People haven't watched that. Well, I guess two episodes of Tucker show this week. Now, the Daryl episode and the, you know, the 10 points he just released last night, uh, I would highly recommend that you do so. Really would. Anyway, and.

[E]

And.

[A]

And the final thing I'll say as well is, like, go to the oldgloryclub.com, find a chapter near you, man. There's new ones that are coming online almost every week now. Oh, all right, let's get to the super chats, gentlemen. It's been a good show tonight. Solid Snake 1964. Always the first guy behind enemy lines in his cardboard box to send us the first super chat. Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it. For two bucks he says no time for a lengthy super chat, but salute a bunch of American flags and eagles. Well, thank you, sir. You Are a real American.

[E]

Real Americans.

[A]

Thank you, sir. Next is sighthound siege for 5.1 cents. Super chat. I can always tell, you know, who's coming from Ryan Stone's chat just by the denominations that they sent for the super chats. So he says for $5 and $0.01, he says, Sup, OGC? Hey, Hawk, is there still value in newcomers like me going back over your old YouTube channel and son of Orion substack content? Well, as it relates to the YouTube channel, I basically shut down Man's Hour because I got pissed at YouTube for copyright striking me while I was playing a clip from a 2006 baseball game and Fox Sports decided to copyright strike me. And I was like, this is ridiculous. This game is from almost 20 years ago at this point, and you are going to shut me down over this, which is clearly fair use. Like, you know, so I just got pissed and rage quit and basically like, stopped doing it. So, I mean, you know, are there some fun episodes in there? Yeah. Are a lot of them like, you know, everlasting and not very topical? Eh, not too much as it relates to the Son of Orion stuff. Well, stay watch this space because, uh, towards the end of this year, uh, there actually is going to be a very large project released on the Son of Orion substack. So, uh, watch this space. But, uh, for. For right now, I'd say, eh, probably not too much worth going back to it as much as I did have fun doing that. You know, everything has a time and a place.

[F]

Yeah.

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Pete Budapest for five bucks says Maga. From restoring the Republic to Sorry. Burritos are a luxury item and Israel needs a new war in half a decade. Man, what could have been. Yeah, man. What could have been indeed. Oh, city break dance dancer, man. Always a guy. I'm looking forward to reading super chats from. It has nothing to do with this excellent name. Nothing to do with that at all. It has nothing to do with the fact he sends us five dollars either. No, it means so much for. For five bucks. Have to catch the stream tomorrow, gents. Hope you all have a great night. Well, thank you very much, sir. We appreciate it. Bobby Bob for 20 bucks says, here's some burrito money. Nice you guys are having good super chats tonight. That's funny. Yeah. Well, thank you, sir. Aramaic Discourse for five bucks. Donating my SSRI money to a better cause. People who don't hate me. You're here. Thank you, man. To use sushi for 20 bucks. The lockdowns had opened up my eyes to the Facts that the average man does not want to be free. He wants to be safe. That politics is just us versus them, and the strong do what they want and the weak do what they must. Yeah, I mean, Covid woke up tons and tons and tons of people now. I mean, again, I bring this up on the show frequently when we talk about COVID 19, but the stuff that happened during the years of COVID is more insane than everything. Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Hitler, Pinochet, Franco. It's more insane than all of those people put together. What happened during the COVID years. Don't let people tell you that, you know, you're looking for ridiculous solutions or what have you. It's like, dude, I lived through Covid. We literally stopped the world over over a cold that was manufactured in a lab, partially paid for with American tax dollars, and nobody got punished for it. People were told to leave their dying loved ones over nothing, Couldn't have funerals. People are mentally broken, psychotically. People lost their jobs that they'll never get back. Lost marriages, friendships, families. Almost everybody in the entire world was affected by this in some way. Insane. Complete insanity. Adrian Shepard for two bucks says, hail the Redwood Society and hail the OGC Salute. Well, thank you, sir. You are a real American.

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Real Americans.

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Yeah.

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And hail the Redwood Society. Hey, Dennis, you know, you got some supporters in the chat tonight.

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Appreciate it.

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Yeah.

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Always happy to have fellow OGC brethren on the show. Pete Budapest for 10 bucks says, the more I live, the more I think the free market talking points are humiliation ritual. I can almost see the powers that be hysterically laughing at the plebs defending their enslavement. Yeah, I mean, no, the. The economy works for the people. This is just very, very, very simple stuff here, all right? I mean, like, if the. If the free market dictates that we should send all of our jobs to China, we don't make anything over here anymore, and all of our people are addled out on drugs, then what use is the free market?

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You know?

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This is just ridiculous. Yeah. Moving on to Seasider, who sends us ten bucks and a salute as he does every week. Thank you, sir. You are a real American.

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Real Americans.

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Thank you. Skibom220. Haven't seen you around in a while for 20 bucks, he says. Couldn't catch the last few. Yeah. Oh, that's probably why. Couldn't catch the last. Last few live. Great thumbnail as always. Yeah, we really do. I challenge anybody in the scene to have better thumbnails than we do. They don't. They can't salute the ogc. Well, thank you, sir. You are a real American.

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Real Americans.

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Wonderful. Adrian Shepard for 10 bucks again, back from my Midwest slash Mount Rushmore road trip. Oh, that's cool. That's such a fun part of the country to drive through, man. Like, you're. You're going across, uh, you know, Nebraska and Kansas, and eventually you get to that point in the Great Plains and the Continental Divide where trees no longer grow, and it's just endless waves of. Endless sites of amber waves of grain, you know, really awesome stuff. You know, I've talked about this so many times. I've written many substack articles for the ogc substack over the years about America can really only ever be experienced truly from the road. You know, you must drive. You must. It is central to the American experience. You know, we have every biome on the planet. We're the only country in the world, or every recognized biome we have within our borders. We have everything here. We have plains, we have mountains, we have boreal forests, we have conifer forests, we have rainforests, we have coastlines, we have deserts, we have everything here. It is amazing. Nature's bounty. And you absolutely should be driving across the country. So good for you, man. And those Black Hills of South Dakota are amazing. Some of my favorite part of the country. Great to get in touch with real America, but I saw way too many jeets. Yep, yep. Same. Despite the all people are Americans, I still enjoyed the greatness underneath. Yeah, absolutely. You know, don't let it get to you, man. You know, I was in Mammoth Cave national park last year and yeah, I was very infuriated to see how many foreigners were there. And same thing when I go all over the place, whether I go to zoos, amusement parks. I've mentioned this before on previous shows. I was up in Mackinac island in Northern Michigan a couple of years ago and. And yeah, that's. It's just infested with foreigners everywhere you go. But try not to let it get to you, man. No, our country really, really is something to behold. Natural beauty is unlike anything else. Hammering for 10 bucks. Dennis gave us a great talk on preparing this recently. As Mike Shelby says, do your area study, fellows. Yeah, absolutely. Good stuff is happening here at the ogc. People give a.

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Good.

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People give good talks, let me tell you. All right, Sean Weiland, frequenter in the chat and always the first guy in the chat whenever we do one of our game slop streams, you know, he must have the notification bell set on, like, the Loudest volume possible because he's always there in the chat. Number one, telling us to fix our audio issues. And number two, make sure we save before our battles. And you too could be a member of our game slap streams if you become a subscriber at the standing backing, standing by channel members membership tier. So Mr. Wyland says boomers can only advocate for budget harder because they made all the money in their retirement accounts by slashing labor costs, reducing the earned income of everyone under 55 years old. Yeah, that's certainly part of it. That's. That's certainly part of it. Bolero 393 for 10 bucks. Got a lot of super chatters tonight. Thank you, guys. All right, Millennials in Gen Z would accept the standard of living of the average American in the 1970s and earlier, obviously, if they could have the same demographics in a country with pride and its people. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's obviously true. Absolutely, Absolutely true. I think, I think if you really pulled people and, you know, really got down into granular detail, like, like somebody like Richard Barris, you know, people's pundit or something, if they pulled somebody like this. I trust his polling on this. You know, if they said, like, would you give up, like your Netflix and Amazon, you know, if you could just like be able to afford a house and I think everybody would choose the house, like every time. No, I think that's just obviously true.

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All right,

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let's see. Moving on. Lee Silver for five bucks. Fairly certain this current wave of demoralization is punishment for people noticing things. In 0809. No coincidence gamergate happened shortly thereafter. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's been the same boom bust cycles literally since I've been born. You know, with the dot com bubble, the great financial recession. Covid, this AI bubble is going to pop soon. There's no way it won't, you know. Yeah, yeah. You know, man, they just keep kicking the can down the road, hoping the grenade explodes in the next guy's hand who picks it up it up. You know, nobody takes responsibility. That should have been another one of Tucker's points, like just responsibility. No, Sean Wyland again for five bucks says, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore. Hell yeah. I think that's something we can all get behind. All right, Pete, Buddha passed again for 10 bucks. Look, the burrito discourse brings home the point that boomers don't actually want their kids to prosper. In fact, they sort of enjoy watching the young suffer because it feeds their egos. There's certainly a lot of people where it seems like that. You know, it's like I remember some of the highlights coming out of the most recent Canadian elections. Where did you guys do you guys remember the pictures of the boomer protests outside and they were flipping off all the kids who were supporting the right wing candidate and they were supporting, you know, Carney and stuff. It's just like, just why, why are people just not interested in the prosperity of, of their own kids? You know, I, I really just don't get it. You know, it's like in, in this obsession with like, oh well, everybody's got to have it just as bad as like I did or something like that. Like it's a competition, you know, it's just, it's very bizarre. Very, very bizarre. And I don't know where it comes from.

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It's bizarre when you consider every generation before was totally committed to your kids living a better life than you to did. That was the whole point. And now it's like this one generation so ZOG brain that they like hate their own kids. It's. It's wild to me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Indeed. Indeed. Brings me great sorrow. It really does. Bolero393 for 10 bucks I didn't get a draft deferral in Vietnam and work my way through college that cost $2,500 for all four years just to listen to pay. Just to pay off my children's student loans. They can work hard like I did. Yeah, ridiculous. Okay, let's see. No, I'm not grim from Red Hood for five bucks. Says after my father's funeral, I think it'll be about time for me to finally join the ogc. Only issue is I'm a mutt. There won't be any qualms with that. It is up to chapters and only like the OGC central committee has no place in, you know, deciding what chapters like have admittances for people. So each chapter is entirely different for confederation model. So you know, try local, join your local agency chapter, you know, that's all I gotta say.

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So yeah, I always think, I always think it's funny when like somebody, you know, some really feminine man on Twitter sees somebody from a chapter like you know, defend like the Iran attack and they're like, oh, the OGC is captured, man. It's like, no, that's somebody in a confederated chapter. And that has nothing to do with OGC is their personal opinion. I mean it's so everybody. And it just goes to Prove no one on the right wants to succeed.

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Yeah, there's definitely.

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They just want to tear down.

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Also, like, I do have to say, like, guys, we really do get some of like the most shameful and like pathetic and like low IQ haters. We really do. It's like, guys, you can't even like, do like five minutes of research before you start attacking us on something. You know, I, I just laugh. I'm like, what is this? What is going on? My favorite one all time still has to be when somebody on Twitter accused me of bringing an unattractive woman to one of our events. And I'm like, dude, our events are all male. What the hell are you talking about? It's like, what is going on here?

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People just make shit up.

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I know.

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You know, and people want to, people don't want, because they can't organize anything or they don't want to leave their house or whatever. They want to see everybody else fail. They, they, they're on Twitter, they're on social media and they think social media is where they're gonna win. They're gonna, they're, they're gonna point out, you know, that everyone who disagrees with them is a Jew. And that means that, hey, hey, I'm winning. No, you're not doing. You're not doing. You're just a divisive piece of garbage. And yeah, we don't want you. We don't want you.

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Alrighty, moving on. And actually, I think the final thing we got here is Ms. Browning, our favorite. Dawn Browning, the only woman who listens to this show, sent us a one old glory club gift membership. I think Grim from Red Hood got it. So there you go. You get to participate in our gaming streams too, uh, Mr. Grimm. So there you go. All right. Well, thank you everyone for super chatting tonight. This was a great show and talked about some heavy topics tonight. Pete, where can people find more of your stuff?

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You can yona show Pete subsack dot com. That's it.

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Awesome, awesome. And then Dennis, thank you for coming on, sir. Where would you like to direct people to?

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I would just like to tell everyone to check out the Redwood Society, uh, substack. They distributed us, set it up. He's a member of our chapter. He writes there along with some of us chapter guys. And it's been really good. It's not, not political. It's actually just about self development, building your community. So I think it's got a lot of good tips on there. And then I just want to shout out the south central OGC event going on this weekend. I'll be speaking there and I'm super excited and very grateful to for the chapters who put it on. They did amazing job. So super excited to get to see all my brothers again at another event so soon.

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All right, awesome. And the Redwood Society substack is linked in the description. And yes, good luck to everyone attending the South Central Forum this weekend. OGC events are always a great time and really are very white peeling affairs. You know, I cannot recommend it enough to people to get out into real life and meet space. Whether you go to one of our events or you just get in with a local chapter. No, like I hear stories literally almost every day now of how it has changed somebody's life for the better. And you know what? I can hold my head up high with knowing that. Because for all the hate and all the criticism we get online for the things we do, you know, people like that have nothing like that to show for it. They really don't. You know. So anyway, all right, for myself, I'll just direct people to, you know, I mentioned it during the show, but go watch Dr. D Cinema on Sundays, usually at, uh, 6:00', clock, uh, Eastern, assuming we are on time and we're not late and gay, where Mr. D, Charlemagne and myself are watching movies. And you know, we can do it on Twitter because there are no copyright laws and Twitter doesn't care. So be sure to tune into that. We always have a fun time with that. Check out the OGC sub stack. Check out the OGC website to find any chapters in your area. And then also be sure to check out American Spirits on Monday, Chapter House on Wednesday, and we'll be back here for another episode of Pony Express Radio next week. We'll see you guys then.