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We talk about identity. It's the suppression of British culture, that if we are of all cultures, Pete, that means we are cultureless, okay? And if we're cultureless, that means we have no identity, right? And then the process starts when we have a lack of identity, which I had when I left the military. Confusion. This is where it starts off. You get confused. Where do I belong? Where's my purpose? Frustration is the next thing. From confusion, confusion, frustration, anger, violence. And I say this from a psychological standpoint of how I understand people. And this process is really, really important to understand that that lack of identity leads to that process. And we are in the anger teetering into the violent stage of that process. We're way down the line now with society out there. And I think it's a great point that you raise. Identity is huge. We have an identity crisis.
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A
Morning, Pete.
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B
How you doing?
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A
I'm always good, mate. Never a dull moment in my life, mate.
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B
It doesn't appear so right. I want to talk to you about, like, there's a lot to talk about, but you've lived a whole side of life I haven't with your training with the army, with the Marines, etc. So I wanted to talk about that and I wanted to talk about violence with you. And I saw this quote that came up on my Twitter, so I want to read it to you. Go see what it is. Okay. True peace is not the absence of violence, but the mastery of it. And I thought about it for a long, like it was sat with me all day. What does that mean to you?
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Violence creates freedom, believe it or not. Yeah. The history books will tell you that. The conflicts will tell you that fear is a great tool to implement control and control to implement peace. People want to be controlled in a bizarre type of way. You know, they want to be told what to do where to go to a certain extent. So violence is needed, it's essential in today's world, in past lives, you look back decades, decades, it's always existed, but it's always been done in the shadows. I think they're two separate worlds. Well, I know that they're two separate worlds. And the ability to call upon violence, you know, violence is just undisciplined aggression. When you teeter into the violent stage, there's no controlled violence. People talk about, ah, you know, controlled violence. There's controlled aggression. Once you hit that violence, that's undisciplined aggression. You know, it's kill or be killed. You know, you go into a state of mind and a state flow. If you have to consistently be in that headspace where it's. You literally walk that line of life or death. You know, there's no gray areas here. You know, there's no complications, there's no that sits in between. It's either, you know, you take a step to the left, you're going to live. Take a step to the right, you're going to die. And ultimately, violence equals euphoria. And this is what I realized in the military, when you're consistently in that mindset of extreme violence, at first it's adrenaline that gets you through, the adrenaline drive that gets you through. But once you learn how to harness that adrenaline, it becomes euphoria. Now let me sort of break that down for you. When I was point man in the military, the first time, I was up against that door ready to get, you know, a high value target, whatever it may be. It was, you know, the adrenaline that got me through the door, my drills and skills and then, you know, room clear, take a deep breath. Right, the room's clear. We're safe. Right now let's go to the next door. Adrenaline. Boom, boom, boom, boom. In the room clear. You're in and out of it. But because you're experiencing violence, extreme violence on a constant state of flow, you learn how to harness that. So you learn how to harness that adrenaline to the point where it becomes euphoric. And what I mean by that, the euphoria side is me having done multiple kinetic tours, you know, violent tours, multiple violent missions where that extreme violence, I've learned to really, really harness it and control it to the point where when I go through that door, towards the back end of my missions, everything slows down. I know how to harness it. I know exactly what I'm going to feel when I'm going to get to that door. I know exactly how I'm going to move. I know exactly how the enemy's going to react when I'm punching through that door. Because I've been there. I've taken multiple layers off. I'm talking about 50, 60, 70 layers off. I'm in that constant state of flow, and everything slows down to the point where you think you can control time. You know, it's so euphoric. It's the ultimate peace. And what I mean by the ultimate peace is it's so uncomplicated. It's the rawest and purest form of life. And there's two options. You're going to live or you're going to die. So a lot of people think that I'm an adrenaline junkie, but I'm not. I chase that feeling of. Of euphoria, being able to control time, control my body. Your body's function, you know, it's synchronizing. Every single cell, every single ligament, every single muscle, every single fiber within you is firing at exactly the same time. You know, it's perfect harmony. It's a perfect state of mind and a perfect state flow that the body experiences. Once you do it consistently. It's not just a case of, you know, when people say, oh, you know, my life flashed in front of me because I was in a car crash, or, you know, one instant incident in their lives, but then they never revisit that. They never want to. They go, you know, I never want to be in that. In that state of mind again or in that situation again. I've been forced to be in that situation time and time and time and time again. And if you don't make it work for you, it will kill you. It will be the end of you. So going back to your question, and I know I answered it in a long, long way, but I think it was a great question to start off with. Violence is necessary. And once you learn how to ultimately sort of move with it, you can't really control it. You move with it, you harness it, then, yeah, that's what creates peace. That's what wins wars. That's why you have the right to vote. That's why you have the right to. To. To a trial, to a. To a fair judgment. That's why you have a right to walk the streets and, you know, do what you do is because violent men predominantly give you that freedom.
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B
And so you think people don't necessarily understand that they can't critically think about those ideas. And hence why. I think one thing where we'll agree on the moment. The UK isn't particularly where either of us would want it to be.
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I don't think people should. That's a unique job to do. It's a unique. Takes a unique individual. You know, you've got the best in the world that go through this process, and they come out with ptsd. You know, the most finely tuned operators, the most finely tuned minds, the most, you know, physical, physically robust machines that just break down because this pressure, this. This uncontrolled aggression or undisciplined aggression just takes over, and their minds can't deal with it, their bodies can't deal with it. So, you know, it doesn't belong in society. Violence does not belong in society. Aggression, however, that's a different category. That's sort of like coming down a peg or two. You know, there's aggression, there's extreme aggression. And from extreme aggression, you. You teeter into violence. So aggression definitely needed violence. Why?
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B
The mastery. Going back to. The mastery of it.
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Yeah, yeah. The mastery of it. Yeah. And do you ever master it? You know, every situation is different. You know, every. Every sort of situation just changes at the flick of a switch. You know, one minute, you might be hitting a room and there's women and children in there. The next, you know, you're. You're flicking. Boom. You know, flicking that switch over to extreme violence. And that's what we're taught to do. You know, when I left the military and I found myself in prison after six months due to a violent situation or an aggressive sit. Wasn't violent because I was sort of in control. I realized that when I. When I went to prison and I sat down and I analyzed everything. I debriefed myself about everything. I don't overanalyze. I don't overthink. I just de. Why am I in here? Right. Because you're extremely aggressive. Right. Break that down. So in the military, I was taught and trained that if someone was aggressive to me, I counter aggression with extreme aggression. That's how I come out on top. If you're aggressive to me on the battlefield, I'll counter that with extreme aggression. I'll go into code red. Okay. Violence, exactly the same. If you're violent to me, I will counter violence with extreme violence. That's how I will come out on top. That's how I will live. That's how I live to fight another day, which is extremely important because I'm an asset. You know, I'm a team member. You know, I don't want to Be a burden and, you know, be. Be injured or dead, you know, so there's the whole sense of pride behind this violence as well. And I just realized, you know, I'm in Civi street now. There's zero tolerance to violence. I don't need to be violent. Cut violence out your life, Boom. You know, don't need to do it. Aggression. However, I was like, you know, do I need to be in that Code Red aggression? No. What. What in society, you know, lends its. Lends its hand for me to get into that Code Red, where I'm like a dog on a bloodlust, and I'm just about to teeter into that undisciplined sort of aggression. I don't need to do that either. But aggression is a great tool because aggression has got me up mountains. It's got me through certain situations. It's, you know, got me business deals. It's got me through certain situations in the media, you know, where. Where they've come at me. You know, I love aggression. And when aggression is used correctly, it can be a very, very handy and powerful tool that can work to your advantage. However, I've just cut extreme violence, code of red aggression out of my life and. And violence out of my life. So when I look back on society, I'm like, actually, violence isn't needed. You don't need to teeter into that. However, you need to unleash the beast. It's better to unleash the beast beast and pull the beast in than to not have the beast released ever at all.
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B
Some of your tweets would imply slightly different from that.
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A
Somebody tell me how you interpret them.
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B
So. So no, because I. I can empathize with it. Like, you talk about being ready. I haven't got the exact tweets in front of me, but, like, ready for war. Ready for.
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I never.
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I've never said that I'd have to go. I don't have the exact words, but there are certain things to do. You know what I mean?
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Gather the masses.
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Yeah, yeah.
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To cover the masses. Absolutely. We need to. We need to unite and we need to gather the masses in order to get our voices heard, in order for people to really stand up, be seen, be heard. And we've done that. And I say we, Tommy, along with, you know, a few other people that normalize that movement. I like to think that as Ant Middleton, as a motivator, as a former Special Forces operator, as a patriot, that I joined the Freedom of Speech Rally to really help Tommy steer clear or have that far right sort of analogy. When they look at me, they go, ant's not far right, he served his country. You know, there's a few politicians and a few celebrities. Let's call myself a celebrity, even though I hate that word because I certainly don't fit in a room for the celebrities. But we sort of normalize that movement from a far right movement to a, you know, a freedom of speech rally to a festival, to a, oh, actually look at the people that are there. They're not far right. You can call us far right if you want, but you know, people with their head screwed on or with a switched on mindset, which a lot of actual politicians done, they were like, no, that was just British people coming together on. Of all cultures, of all backgrounds, of all ethnicities, they come together and they want their voices to be heard. So this is why I'm very careful with what I say on X. Because I don't want to create division and hate. I want to create division and hate between the extremists that don't respect our culture, that don't respect our way of life, that want to create division and hate within our British culture. But I want to unite the people that want to be here. The people that are proud, even if they're not British, the people that are proud of this country for what it's given them, whether it's a job, whether it's a roof over their heads, whether it's food on the table, you know, to people to go, thank you. You know, this is, this is why I came here. This is what, you know, this is why I'm thriving and why I can be a family man and look after my family. They're the people that I want to unite. But predominantly we are in a situation right now where we need to focus on us. We need to be super selfish right now. We need to focus on Brits, British citizens, British natives. We need to really go back and go, do you know what car. These people that are now ultimately second class citizens to illegal immigrants coming in to veterans sleeping on the streets, to I could, the list could go on.
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B
That hotel thing must piss you off more than most people. With veterans who are sleeping on the streets, it's hard.
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It's a hard pill to swallow. But I know if I teeter into the aggression which I feel when I see this, then I know that I'm just falling into their trap. It's not so much aggression, it's minds comes a layer down, it's, it's frustration because what you do you. There's. There's a process to violence, okay? And it starts off with confusion, all right? You get confused. Lack of identity, suppressed culture, right? But if we're. If we're a multicultured country, you know, that multiculturalism, it's not even a word. It doesn't. That means nothing. You know, we're a British cultured country, yet with a diverse cultured society, okay? Very important that you realize that. British culture, guess where, guess what sits in our British culture? Our law and order, you know, our principles, values and morals. That's what the umbrella is there. It will protect you, it will help you, it will shelter you, it will provide for you. You step into the rain, law and order, no matter your background, your religious beliefs, your cultural beliefs, you step into the rain, you're going to get wet. And guess what? You're going to. You're going to know it. It doesn't happen like that. But that's why that structure is so important, because in order, once that's in place, then law and order naturally filters under that. And this is what, this is the problem. We're not in a religious war. We're not in a. In a. In a. In a bloody. What's the word I'm looking for?
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Cultural war?
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No, because it's law and order and culture. So it's not. It's not actually religion or race. So it's got nothing to do with religion and race. It's culture and law and order.
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I think there's another one.
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Go.
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I think it's money.
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Money, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
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Because money affects everybody.
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Yeah, it does, yeah. Yeah.
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And even the most kindest leftists I know, some of them are starting to break ranks and say, hold on a second, I've got no money left at the end of the month. I haven't had a pay rise in two years. The government is, you know, cannot manage a budget. Rachel Reeves has borrowed more than ever after the Conservatives did the same. I think we both probably feel let down by the Conservatives. I think we have issue of identity. I think we have an issue with money, identity and culture, 100%. And law and order is downstream from that for me, in that.
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Yeah. Where we live in Bedford, it's identity. Right. You just said it. Right. Identity. So why. Why do we lack identity? Why do you think we lack ident identity, Pete?
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Well, I think that's subjective to who you are, some people, because it's. I think for a young man, it could have been feminized out of them. It could have Been shamed out of them. I think if you're a white male, you've been called a racist. I mean, I've been called far right and fascist all the time, and I'm nothing like that. But I also think, I think British, the history of, the history of Britain has been dug up.
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Worst British culture to you. If you go right back to British culture, what would you say British culture is? If I say to you Africa, what? And you had to say, what, what culture would you say again?
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I think it's always subjective to the person, though. So for me, British culture, I'm, I'm a second generation immigrant. Dad's Irish, welcoming to his family, moved up to Blackburn, his dad got a job. My dad's done very well, worked hard and create a great life for us. So I say we are a welcoming, tolerant country and that's part of our culture.
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But go back to the beginning.
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But I mean, our culture was, you know, we were leaders.
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Correct.
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We're leaders of the world.
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Explorers. Explorers, Adventurers.
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Inventors.
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Leaders. Inventors. Extreme problem solvers, construction trailblazers, educators. You know, you go back and you know where that all stems back from. If you go right back to British culture, and this is why I said, when I say Africa, Africa's black culture, go right back to British culture. And this is, this pisses off a lot of people and them just stating facts. It's white culture. White culture is something that's been completely eradicated from British culture. The death by a thousand cuts. Right? Even before I was born, you know, growing up in the, in the 80s and 90s, never did I hear, oh, what's, what's white culture? You know, the whole thing was already gone for. You cannot say that you're a proud white man. You know, it's like. But you look back on our British culture is British history. Look back on our history, it's white culture. And again, you go back to explorers, you go back to adventurers, you go back to innovators, you go back to educators, extreme problem solvers. You know, we built most of the world, you know, that's, that's who we are. That bit's been cut off. Next. What they're after is our faith. You know, we're a Christian country. And I don't care what you say, you look back on our, on our, on our history, which is British culture, our law and order is intertwined with Christianity. Our calendar year, Easter, Christmas, intertwined with Christianity. Now, you don't have to be religious, Pete, okay? To believe that Christian principles Morals and values are just. They work, they're fair, they give us. They give us freedom. And they've worked for the last thousand to 2,000 years, okay? And I'm talking about it made a flourishing, thriving society up to what, 20, 25 years ago, okay? And this is. And we talk about identity. It's the suppression of British culture, that if we are of all cultures, Pete, that means we are cultureless, okay? And if we're culturalist, that means we have no identity, right? And then the process starts when we have a lack of identity, which I had when I left the military. Confusion. This is where it starts off. You get confused. Where do I belong? Where's my purpose? Frustration is the next thing from confusion, Confusion, frustration, anger, violence. And I say this from a, from a sort of psychological standpoint of how I understand people. And this process is really, really important to understand that. That lack of identity. Now they're after me. Yeah, that lack of identity leads to that, that process. And we are in the anger, teetering into the violent stage of that process. We're way down the line now with society out there. And I think it's a great point that you raise. Identity is huge. We have an identity crisis. Our culture's been suppressed all the way from our white culture, which I'm super proud of. You know, you look at. I'm an adventurer, I'm an explorer. And when I look at the people that mapped out this world, like your Columbuses and your Bly's, you know, your Captain Bly, you look at them and you go, whoa. You know, that fascinates me. And, but, you know, we daren't go there because that's already eradicated. That's gone. The next thing is going to be our faith, our beliefs, our values and more. I'm Catholic, you know, I was baptized, I was christened, I was confirmed. My children have been as well. I've veered a lot towards Christianity in the, in the recent years because, you know, I've really studied the. The man himself, you know, Jesus Christ. And I love his. I just love his, his attitude. I love the way that he. He, you know, brought his justice. His. His demeanor, his. His way of thinking. I thought it was really, really advanced, you know, for, for his time. And I just think that that's next. That's going next, right? You can see it going even with, with Christmas, Easter. You can't buy a Easter egg nowadays without Evan. Yeah, holiday, holiday. But it's the same with Christmas. What is it? The festive period. It's like that's going next. And then, then you know, this whole multiculturalism is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, listen, that, that word doesn't even exist. Let's, let's re reinstall our British cultured umbrella within that it will preserve our law and order. And if we preserve our, our, our law and order, which has been compromised, in turn, we preserve life, British lives. Because we don't, we don't teeter off into this two tiering, say, oh, but this is okay in their culture, not this. So this is why this structure is so important, Pete. It's so important to read because it will, it will. If you get this structure right from the top, everything else will fall back into place. Don't try and build from here. This has got to be reinstalled. And let's call it a British cultured umbrella, which in turn will preserve British law and order, which will in turn preserve British lives, which we see being taking every single day on our streets.
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And.
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But it was the discipline around that. There's there's, there's no compromise on the discipline. And do you think that's a problem that we have in this country is that we've just lost discipline as a country, as a nation?
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Yeah, discipline is a huge part of it. And just being the hard part to discipline is being consistent with it. Yeah, that's, you know, that's the hard part because a lot of people can't do that. Discipline is doing the things that, you know you should do that you don't do. You know you should be doing them, you know, you know, you should be getting up half an hour earlier just to hit a walk or hit a. A circuit or a workout, but you don't do it, but you know you should be doing it. Right. So it's a great idea in your.
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Head, but is it also to say the things that are maybe unpopular?
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Yeah, I think. I think now more than ever, you know, I'm a super positive person. You know, I refuse to engage with negativity. Well, actually, I lie. I do engage with negativity in order to flip it into a positive. I love, you know, I love taking on that challenge. But we're in a day and age now or in a time the last couple of years where me giving you positive quotes and speaking positively to you people are like an. Are you blind? You not see what's going on? So right now, my, my dialect has gone a lot more. I wouldn't say negative. A lot more truthful when I say to people, you are not safe on the streets. Traveling groups, find a way to arm yourself legally. You know, it's. It's like at the moment, this is, you know, I'm telling people this, and they're like, wow, fans gone from his. Hey, stay positive, guys. You know, the world's. You know, you'll find your way through it or whatever it may be.
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But that's not a negative.
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No, it's not a negative.
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It's just. It's honest.
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It's needed.
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Yes.
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At this there's a time to really step up and tell. The people are just fed up of being fucking lied to. Yeah, right. Then again, they get lied to. They frustrate into frustration. There's no confusion. They're frustrated straight away. Anger, violence, that holds it. And the more you lie to people, the more that that frustration then flicks into anger, Flicks into anger, into violence. And accountability as well. You know, you talk about discipline. You know, accountability is. The key to. It derives from discipline. If you are disciplined, you can hold yourself accountable and be honest. With yourself and go, you know what? Actually I messed up there. I didn't get this right. You know, for example, Sadiq Khan being questioned and he. And instead of going, do you know what? We do have a problem. I know exactly what you're talking about. Season. We do have a problem with, with grooming gangs in London. It's been going on for a while. We're going to do absolutely everything in our power to make sure that we eradicate this problem. Not, not, not try and solve that as zero tolerance to this behavior in my city. But then when he sort of, oh, I don't know what you're talking about. He's almost condoning that behavior. He's almost giving people free reign to go out and, and sexually abuse people and rape people and, and, and even murder people, right? It's almost to, to laugh that off and go, I don't know what you're talking about. When he. To play dumb with children's lives, young British girls lives. Let's call it as it is. Young white British girls, like, let's, let's go even further. Let's call it a spade. A fucking spade. When that happens, that's when I'm like. Because I'm thinking, if I was in your chair and you told me that, you know, I'd be like that what this is going. Even if I didn't know about it, but this is going. I'm going to find out. I'd be straight to the, to the superintendent and the Metropolitan Police going, what is happening here? However, he cannot do that because of the whole inclusivity, political, political correctness, diversity and inclusion policies that they've spent billions on, billions on over the last 20, 25 years. That project cannot be seen to fail. One, because they spent billions of taxpayers money to make it happen. Two, because they, they think that this multicultural idea, this new narrative of multiculturalism is, is, is the fantasy world that they live in. It's a failed concept.
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So people don't want to admit they're wrong. But it's really hard.
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Discipline. Going back to discipline, right? Going back to discipline and accountability.
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It's really hard. Some people find it really hard to say sorry to their children or their partner, let alone a nation like I up I got this wrong, but you're.
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Gonna up to the day you die. You know, this is failure, right? A lot of people are scared of failure. One, if they see a project that they think is going to fail, then they won't take it on. Two, that fear of failure. If I fail, I Become a failure. Right. People are petrified of that, but failure is everyday part of life, right? You're going to fail, Pete, to the day you die. I failed up to now and I'm going to fail to the day I die. Hopefully less and less or on a smaller, smaller, smaller scale. Because I live, I learn, I evolve, I've got a bit more knowledge, a bit more wisdom, and I know how to make failure work to my advantage. But the moment you shy away from it is a moment that accountability has a huge dent in it. Oof. Yeah. I can't say that I'm. I've actually thought of this. And then discipline going back to you, what you said about discipline, that's when discipline just goes out the window.
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B
But if you go to Silicon Valley to raise money.
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Yeah.
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If you want to make a startup and you're going to raise millions and millions of dollars of pounds, one of the things they want to know what, what were your failures and what did you learn from it? Yeah, they know because they understand the market, they understand money, they understand investment. They want to know your failures. You know, you want your kids to fail.
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Yeah.
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And what did you learn from it?
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Yeah.
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What did you change not to do it again?
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Yeah. You want to give them enough ropes so they trip up on. And, you know, but you're there at their side. They trip up, hypothetically graze their knee. And you go, what route would you take now, son? You know, it's like, oh, I'd go, you know. Yes, exactly. I'm here behind you. Obviously, you won't give them enough rope to, you know, hypothetically hang themselves, but you give them enough rope to trip up on through life. If you don't make mistakes in life, mate, you don't make anything.
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B
But that's where we have this kind of weird paradox in life, in that there's a part of society that wants us to be sympathetic and empathetic to everyone, every one of their mistakes.
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A
But, but we are anyway.
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B
But, but, but also, if you put your head up there, if you say, I'm going to run for mayor, they're going to find a mistake, yours, and they're going to hit you with it daily. Daily. Here you go. What about this? What about this? And so there's like, I don't.
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A
Yeah, but I don't.
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B
But there's a But what I'm saying, you're fine, you've got the discipline, you're okay with this. I am like, I've like you. I've thought about running for office. I've had the conversations, but I've ever. I have a past, but. No, no. And I might. But I have a past in drugs. It's going to come up now. I had a drug addiction. I lied on a mortgage application once.
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A
Fucking hell. You're human. Yeah, hell.
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B
But that is. That is one. I think one of the battles of now, which is quite interesting in the world of politics, is there is a battle between the imperfect and the perfect. And I think. And I think. I think it's shifting. I think people want the imperfect because it allows them to be imperfect.
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People want progression. Yeah, right, because the perfection doesn't exist. And this is where I come in and I really see myself and I think this is key time. I think the timing couldn't be better. Politicians are so divided from the grassroots. Survivors and thrivers. Yeah, like us. Okay, maybe I'm in a lot better financial position than I was, you know, five, six, seven years ago. And maybe I, you know, I can tease her into both worlds. Absolutely I can. But I can't ignore the grassroots that I've come from. I can't ignore when I joined the military at the age of 17. I can't ignore, you know, the shit that I've been through when I've been in prison. I can't ignore the failures that I've had that every day human surviving thriver makes even politicians, which they have a very good thing of hiding it and locking it away and not holding themselves accountable. But this is where I come in, mate. So I very much see myself as the mediator between the grassroots and the politicians. Yeah, I can sit down a table full of politicians. I've sat down with Nigel, I've sat down with Zia, I've sat down with key politicians. I can sit down with these people and I can talk sense from a grassroots perspective and vice versa. This is what's really important, is actually taking this political sort of spill and this political agenda, dissecting it in a way that people understand it. So when I talk about restoring our British culture, our identity, you know, so important because, you know, it restores. It puts our law in order to. To account, and then preserves life. You know, multiculturalism doesn't exist. You know, if we're multicultural, that we're. Means we're of all cultures. We've got no culture, we've got no identity. People understand that. But politicians don't speak like that. So people are actually gagging, mate. Gagging. That's why I said, do it. Run for office for people like us. To actually step up and go, do you know what? I'm going to be the immediate, the mediator here for the people. I'm going to listen to you and I'm going to bring what you tell me and how I see you, because I see them, I hear them, I hear the screams, I hear the, their chart, you know, their, their desperate calls for help, you know, and, and being that mediator in the middle, what I can give them at the moment is hope.
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B
Right, so it's a duty, do you see?
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A
It's a service, it's a return to service. Yeah, and that's exactly what it is. I had a conversation last night, I sat down in 40 Dover street with a, with a lawyer barrister. He said, anne, why did you want to come back and dive into politics? You know, I earned my brand, you know, I earned a seven figure annual salary quite comfortably. You know, I've been earning that for the last seven years. You know, that's my brand value. I never earn under that. You know, worst case scenario, I'll always take a million quid home a year. You know, that's comfortable. I can do that probably with my eyes shut. That's my brand value that I've built up. I said, why'd you want to go back? You live a lovely life. Your children are, you know, my children have got beautiful schools, they're loving life. I'm, I'm, you know, I feel like I'm really providing as a father and as a husband and. Why do you want to, you know, jump into this shit pit? Why do you want to jump into. And my exact reply is, it's my duty to serve. I remember when I signed and I remember it as clear as day and I think, you know, and I was a bit shocked after when I spoke to a few people. Let me take you back to that moment when I signed my oath, when I joined the military at the age of 17, just turned 17. I actually signed up at 16, back end of 16 and then joined when I was 17 and I signed the, I put my hand on the Bible, swore to the oath, swore to protect Queen at the time and country. And I can remember when I signed away and we were in a room and all saying our oath and reading it, you know, putting our hand up and when I signed, this sense of Pride As a 17 year old, just, I remember it so vividly and I was just like, what responsibility? I'm serving my Queen and my country, you know, patriotism, just. And I remember after that and I was a bit sort of not let down by saying to the guy, oh, that was amazing. And they're like, what was amazing? And I was like, just signing that. Did you not feel goosebumps? And they're like, no, they were just going through the motions. And, you know, but that moment of. I always go back to that, and I think to myself, wow. And I had that goosebump moment again when I decided, you know what? I'm going to run, because rather than serve my queen and country now, I'm going to serve my capital and my people. You know, this is a whole different category now. Now I've sort of suppressed this community. And, you know, I feel like it's a lot more manageable. I feel like it's a lot more feasible. I feel like, you know, I'm not just a cog here. You know, now that cog has grown throughout my career, but now I can, you know, I'm ready to penetrate London. I'm ready to really, really make a change and to prioritize our culture, to prioritize our capital city and to prioritize the people within it, whether they're visitors, whether they're, you know, citizens, whether, you know, whether they're looking to work there. You know, it's. I just feel this sense to serve. And I said this to my wife, and she's so supportive. She's the backbone of our family. I said this to my wife who said, I'm not going to convince you. I haven't seen that look in your eyes since you went to Afghanistan. That's what she said to me. Because I was, you know, skagging to get out to Afghanistan. I get back. And I just, like, I need to get back out there. And why? It's because they're out there, Emily, and I need to get. If they're out there, I need to be there. And I've been trained to the highest order. You know, I'm a. You know, in my head, I'm a shitter operator. You know. You know, I'm a point man. You know, I'm first man through the. You know, no one. I believe, no one can do that job better than me. So why is. Why is. Why are other people, people putting their lives at risk of maybe not wanting to do that job, get me out there, right? And it's exactly the same when it comes to London. It's just like, right? And the sacrifice that I'm making and, you know, and again, it goes back to making the sacrifice of giving the ultimate, ultimate sacrifice for queen and country. I still Feel that same sacrifice now, because I'm going to have to sacrifice a lot in order to take this position.
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B
Well, so you got. You're going from in the army where you were risking your life, now you're going to risk your way of life.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
And I, yeah, I've had a similar conversation. My girlfriend recently, on my birthday, we went out and she was saying, why do you want to do it? Similar. I'm a couple of years older than you, probably similar financial position, don't need to do this. And she, she was saying to me why. I was like, I don't think you understand. In some ways, it's like a burden on me and I feel a duty. And I said, I kind of feel like I don't have a choice. Because if not me, who? So what does that say? And if not me, who?
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A
And I know that there's no better person to do this from a leadership standpoint, because people are like, yeah, but you're not a politician. I'm like, that's one of the things I need to do is strip politics out of that position. You know, the Metropolitan Police are being used as a political tool, a law and order, you know, political tool. Our justice system is, you know, it's all coming out of London, let's be honest. Where's it coming out? Where's the example? City of the uk. What did everyone look to think?
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B
London fix the country. You thinking that's London becomes the signal?
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A
100 it does, yeah. 100 it does.
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B
And when you don't need the money.
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A
Yeah, that's it. I don't need the money.
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B
It's like when you said earlier, you said violence and freedom, like having fuck you money puts you in a position where you don't have to compromise your values. Because a lot of these politicians, they want to work their way through the benches and then they want to get their board position afterwards or they become a minister. They need the money. If you lose your. If you lose your seat in politics, you're in a very sticky, tricky situation. So you can't always operate with integrity. But if you don't need the money.
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A
But also my wife, you know, she a great sounding board and you sort of hit the nail on the head when you said, you know, talking, why do you need to do it? It's not a case that I need to do it, but I believe that the next mayor of London needs to be a leader. Not so much a politician needs to be a leader with a team of SMEs around him or her. As in subject matter experts, you know, a team of individuals and myself as a leader when it comes to safety and security, which I think is the primal sort of priority that everyone wants, you make an environment safe and secure. People start to enter that environment, they start to trust within that environment, they start to bring their families, they start to bring their businesses, they start to spend money.
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B
And the reverse is true.
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A
And the reverse is 100%. Well, the reverse is happening. Right? You know, you look at the three points of trust that a government should give you, right? Three points of trust that government should give you is you should trust the government with your personal safety. Do you trust the government, your personal safety? Yeah, there's the answer. Do you trust the government with your personal health?
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B
You can just start with me and just say, do you trust the government?
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A
There's three pillars, but there's three main pillars here that I'm going to be working on in London. Right, Pete, which is really important. Do you trust them, your personal safety? No. No. Okay, so you enter the camp, you can help. You don't even feel safe in the camp. Do you trust them with your personal health? Knowing that if you get injured, if you can't even, you can't get a doctor's appointment, you know, they're forcing shit into your bodies when it comes to vaccination, when it comes to fucking prescribed medication, they're fucking making zombies out of us. The third one. Do you trust the government with your personal finances?
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B
All right, three easy answers for that. Personal finances. No, I keep my money in Bitcoin. Yeah, Health. I have private health care because they're so fucking useless. And safety. And we've just finished a pilot project where we live in Bedford, we put private security in into our town center. I don't know if you heard about this, but every Saturday for three months as a pilot, which then extended to some Sundays, we put 10. I paid for 10 security guards to be in the town because we had drug addicts, alcoholics scattered around the town. They were shoplifting, they were screaming at shoppers. They're making everyone's life a misery. I think I have personally been the sovereign response to the failure of the state where I live in my life. I don't fucking trust him with anything.
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A
Like, I think, there you go.
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B
I think every part. It's a question I keep asking to people because I went through a journey of being somebody who would defend the state, we need government, blah, blah, blah. I now think of it as a natural monopoly, but I come across statists who Argue back. We need the government. I say, just give me one thing that's got better because of government. In the last 25 years, I still haven't had one person give me anything. There's no answer. Education's got worse. I mean, do you see this stuff this week about one of the school trusts? They were teaching kids that if that reformer or fascist party seen it, seen it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So they've gutted the defense, which obviously would be something that bother you. They can't control the borders. The NHS is a complete, failed sacred turd. Every single thing they aim control. If they failed, they failed every single direction. And it's the Conservatives and the Labour Party. So I don't trust them in anything.
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A
And this is, you know, this is why myself as a team leader, you know, you know, going back to what I do, team building, team bonding. This is team building, team bonding 101. You know, I'm almost, you know, come into my camp. Right. Do you trust your safety? No. Trust you? Your health? No. Do you trust me with your personal finance? No. What are you going to do? You're going to leave the camp, right. Hence, you know, let's talk about the money that's coming, the eye watering, astronomical amount of money that's leaving London. Right? Of course you're going into the camp. Well, what? No. Do I feel safe here? No. Normally two out of those three, if you get two out of those three and you go, do you know what? Personal safety, I feel sort of safe here. Personal health, not really, but I can go private. Personal finances. Yet two out of those three, these three pillars of trust, which is really, really important. You can go, do you know what? I'm going to stay in this camp and I'm going to make it work because I'm going to flip that third one into a positive. They're failing on all three of these metrics. That builds communities, that builds trust, that builds unity, that builds, you know, businesses, that builds families, you know, you name it.
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B
So did you see Reaffirm?
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A
Keeping it simple like this is what people understand and what I will implement within London first and foremost.
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B
So on this podcast, you are definitely hearing me talk about bitcoin a lot. Well, why? We live in a really strange time with governments driving inflation with their reckless spending and endless money printing. There is a way out of this. There is a way to protect your money, and that is by stacking bitcoin. I've made loads of shows about bitcoin. You can go and research this. You can go and read the books. But the truth is, it is the hardest money ever created. If you are interested in protecting your financial future, it's time for you to get on the bitcoin train. I have. I've been stacking bitcoin personally and through my businesses since 2017. It's protected me, it secured my family's future, and it also strengthens all of my businesses. So if you want to start stacking bitcoin, where do you do it? Well, for me, it's with Gemini. They're a fully licensed, full reserve exchange and custodian. So they give you a secure way for you to buy and own your bitcoin. There's no risks and no funny business. So if you're serious about stacking bitcoin the right way, head over to gemini.com, which is g e m I n I dot com. Do you see what Rio Ferdinand said yesterday? He was on. Yesterday.
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A
He moved to Dubai.
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B
Moved to Dubai. He was on lbc.
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A
Yeah.
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B
He just came out and said, the reason people like me are leaving is not to just avoid tax. People think it's that. It's that our tax is going towards everything. Nothing's working. And that's what our taxes. It's being pissed away. And that's every wealthy person I know. They don't mind paying tax. Do you know what? If this country was pointing in the right direction and things were getting better and Rachel Reeves comes out and said, look, we need to have two people more, I'd hate it, but I'd pay it. I double my council tax, I'll pay it. But they're pissing it all away. Is this what he said? But things are. Yeah, this is what Ria said, but things have fallen apart. Going wrong. Did you sit there and go, well, I'm paying all this tax, but it's really going towards the things that benefit the people that live here. And that's a big question that needs answering. I think a lot of us need the answer to that.
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A
He's speaking to the people. That's high level, sort of generalized environment. This is what this is. Yeah. This is why, you know, it's. But then you obviously dig a lot deeper into that. It goes, you know, but people are breaking down. Yeah, of course they are. But. But they. They're doing it because of those. Those that. That's an element of, you know, him giving his money away, paying his taxes and working. Rio would have done. He's got a big family like myself, and he would have done what I done day on, day off. For the government. Working day for the government, day off, 50% plus tax. You know, when it comes to day on, day on, day off, I don't mind working. Let's say I have a working week, Pete, I don't mind working one day for the government paying 20%. I would quite happily swallow that up and go, do you know what? I'll work a day for the government. I've got five kids, got a big family, I've got a business to run. I do a day for the government and I work four days for myself and the family. That I don't mind doing. Corporation tax, it jumped from 20% to 25%. No, it didn't go up half a percent, 1%. No one fucking murmured a word. There were no protests on the streets. There was no uproar. There was no being the tolerant. Going back to what you said, the tolerant, accepting Brits, you know, we just swallowed that up. I was looking around going, it's going to kick off. They put the corporation tax up 5%. This isn't one nothing. And I was just like, well, if.
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B
We'Ve lost, but you know, why lost?
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A
The internal fight for our businesses and for our families, because ultimately that's what it is. And for, you know, for our homes, then we're so distracted, we must be so distracted with external. And it all is all external, you know, pro Palestine, Ukraine. We're so distracted with external bullshit that when they come in and they go, boom, put the dagger in your side, we'll have that blood out of you.
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B
But do you know why there wasn't a massive uproar on that?
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A
Tell me 20%.
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B
Because it goes back to what Reagan said. There are no corporate taxes. Every increase of tax on a company is passed on to the consumer. And so when they put 5% or 5 percentage points on corporation tax, they just raise their prices and we end up paying more, but our wages never keep up. And so that's why they did the national insurance rise. But that gets passed on to the consumers, correct? Okay, if it can be, you know, you might be a small business owner. God, I can't fucking do this. My customers can't pay anymore, but they always get passed on to the consumers. So there's no, there's no real corporation taxes.
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A
But also you look at, you look at just those percentages. You know, people say, oh, I own a company. I'm like, no, you don't. I say, the government own a quarter of your company. They own a quarter of. Yeah, but I'm the majority shareholder. When we break it down into business lingo, and I'm at the majority shareholder, I said, I think you'll disagree with that. What you do, you raise and you work your whole year. You raise an invoice to your silent partner who then takes the invoice and goes, no, rework that. That's not enough. You then resubmit an invoice to your silent partner who owns a quarter of your company. And if you don't pay that, they can take your whole company, you know, so they actually own the company. They can take your whole company with all of your assets that's attached to that company. So from a business perspective, you don't own. You're not the majority shareholder of your company. You're not, you know, you're not the overruling voice. You're actually working for a government, you know, busting your balls. That's the single most stressful process, is tax returns. But that's what destroys businesses. That's what destroys families. Arguments within family, the stress of. I mean, the accountants, the accountants are there just, you know, to raise that invoice at the end of the year and then to throw it back at you, then to pay it and then to go, oh, no, actually, you owe us more than that. Well, I can't pay it. Well, listen, I'm going to take all of your fucking company. I'm going to take all of your assets. That's what I say to people. Do you realize what you're signing up to when you start a business in the uk? So not only have they got fifth of your business, now they've got a quarter of your business. It doesn't matter. If they had a tenth of your business, they would be the overall deciding factor whether, whether you, you keep your company and your assets, you know, if, even if you get something wrong. I said, now they're going, right? I got caught in the business. The sooner it'd be bloody 30, soon it'd be 30. It's just a whole breakdown of that is just you look at it and you go from a business perspective, you go, hell, I've got, I've got a raw deal here. So no wonder people are going as well. People are like that, well, listen, I can go and literally own my own company abroad, pay no tax or very little of. And, and which everyone, any decent businessman, Pete, wants to contribute to society. They actually don't mind paying tax.
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B
But it's, there's multiple taxes that people don't even realize. This is why when I get into the Argument with the socialists. I say this, you know, we're a socialist country. Say, no, we're not. It's not like China. It's not like Soviet. The government doesn't own. I was like, it's backdoor socialism. They own us. They own us through regulation and taxation. But there's multiple essential taxes. I consider the amount I spend over 100 grand a year with my accountants across my businesses, That's a tax. It's a tax because 100%, because I have to do it to provide it. The HR money I now have to spend, that's another tax because of all the employment regulation. The energy costs we're paying is a tax because the energy costs are a choice. We have the highest energy cost in the world, so we'll be being hit in every direction. I mean, so, so hard to make money.
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A
These.
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B
Something like this is easy. But when you're running a. Yeah, a hospitality business, you're just scraping by. You're literally scraping by to pay for the government. And this is what a lot of people are actually missing is why I'm like, you just need to understand that all this, too much government, it's not working for any of us.
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A
But then you use the. You used your limited company to your advantage, which thousands of company did. Thousands of companies did during the pandemic. Liquidate them, which you're in your. That's why you open up a limited company. That's. You know that you can, you can do that legally. You can do that in your favor. Fuck me. You do that against the government, then you're alienated. You are car. It's like, well, no, that's why I got a limited company. That's why I didn't put stuff in my name. Because I've got the ability that if things go wrong, if there's a global pandemic, even though we wouldn't even think about that beforehand, but if something goes wrong and I can't afford to pay, then I have the legal right to liquidate a company and to go through the process of shutting that company down, paying off a bit of the tax and then away. Fuck me. Try going through that process. Being in the limelight, it's almost like, no, no, I'm legally allowed to do it. So you're legally allowed to take everything from me. That's absolutely fine. And then I'm in the bad anyway. But when I make the company work to my advantage with the legal routes and policies that I'm allowed to implement, I'm alienated anyway. Yeah, Exactly. So you're on to a lose, lose situation when you, when you open up a business here in the uk.
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B
So how do you win? Because I know a lot of question. There is a large group of people who, who like Sadiqah. There are a large group of people who can't stand the guy.
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A
Who's a large group of people that likes it. Can't tell me because I, I failed to, I failed to see it.
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B
A lot of leftists like him, they will vote for him as a leftist because he's a leftist. But there's also, I think what's more interesting, what I'd like to talk about more, there's a lot of people who cannot stand him, correct, who can't understand what's happened to London. I mean I was watching a video the other day and it was some young lad who jumped the barriers. Somebody filmed him jumping the barriers and not paying his to get on the underground. And the guy started filming him. The kid was talking, you know, are you mad? Are you mad, bro?
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A
Fuck off.
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B
And there's a lot of people just fed up of this shit, just absolutely sick of it. But winning is hard. You know, you're going into a battle to win against a tough guy, like a, you know, a well supported guy here. Like how do you win it? Is it as an independent, is it with a party, as an independent? I mean, I've considered that that's hard. As an independent, like how, how do you go and do this?
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A
It is, but the time is right for it, mate. Don't know if you've looked at the stats, but I think like 55%, even up to 60% of Londoners did not vote. So it's getting people voting, so it's getting people out. And also there's, there's a level of corruption. You know, everyone sees what's on top of the table, but you got to fight fire with fire. There's a level of crop, the level of dealings that happen under the table that I'm fully aware of from a voting perspective. I'm fully aware of from a, from a balloting. You know, there's, there's a gameplay. So the campaign isn't just about, oh, this is, these are my policy, this is what I'm going to do. You know, it's about throwing a fucking shit ton of money at certain angles, certain aspects of the campaign which you go, right, talk about delegation, right, talk about a leader, bringing SMEs on board, you know, subject matter experts to, in whatever field that is pr. You know, voting, it's about having the finances, the back financial backing and the support to be able to go. Right, you go and deal with you. You're working under the table here, you know, these three groups. You're working under the table, right? These two groups. You're going to work with me on, on this. There's. You have to be really, really clever and strategic. Do you want me to tell you what politics is? Politics is military strategies. But instead of weapons, they use words. But the strategies that I see that, I see them so clearly, Pete, and what I mean so clearly, I'm like, that's a smoke and mirror strategy. That's a distraction strategy. There's a fucking explosion going on over there. Do I look over there? Do I fuck, I'm. I'm over there. I'm on the other flank because I know what's happening. I know all these tactics, I know all these strategies. And when you look at politics, it is Military Strategies 101. But just they've taken the weapons out and they're using words and they're very, very clever with their words. And this is, this is the battle as well, that I'm going to have to fight because I'm used to fighting battles, let's call it, with weapons. Right now I have to actually fight my battles with my words. And I'm probably, you know, not too finesse at the moment. Let's say you've got to be more precise, more precise and more. But also you've got to keep your cards very close to your chest. A lot of people say, what are your policies? Then I'm like, I'm not going to tell you. My policies are so good, I believe they're so good that if you go, oh, here's my cards. All of a sudden, when it comes to campaigning, oh, we're doing this, we're doing this, we're doing. I'm like, you know, I don't want to give, give the game plan away.
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B
But you're talking about playing the game, then.
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A
No, because you'd be seen to play the game is what you've got to do, Right? You've got to be seen to play the game. Absolutely. And again, without giving too much away, but the game's underneath the table. The fight's going on underneath here, mate. This is, this is the game, this is the stage, this is the, you know, this is the theater. This is what we're doing. These are all the prim and proper words, these are all the proper tactics, these are all the political policies. That are going through underneath here. That's where the battle is. But a lot of people, they don't even think about that. They think, oh, I've got to work on the table here. I've got, you know, everything. It's like, trust me, 80% of it, even more than that is happening underneath the table. So if you're, if you're cute and you're aware of putting out splinter cells underneath the table to work simultaneously with your show that you're doing on this theater here, on the platform, on the stage, then that, that's, that's what needs to be done. That's what I'm going to implement. And if the opposition or, you know, the enemy know about this, then they're going to be, trust me, you got to stay one step ahead. Not necessarily here. You just got to play the game here. You got to stay one step ahead underneath there. Because they're counter with something. I guarantee. I know already a smearing campaign is already started with myself. All right. The word is out there. I'm running for mayor of London at the moment. Independently. You mentioned a political party. Is there a strategy along the way that will boost my campaign? Is there political alignments that I could jump onto? Absolutely. Am I going to tell people about that? No, because I'm going to hit them with it hard. I mean, I'm all in, mate. I'm all in.
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B
Do you know a guy called Curtis Yarvin?
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No.
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We interviewed him twice. Sorry. We've released two episodes with him, but that's not the one I'd recommend. He did one with Tucker Carlson. It's worth a watch because there's a couple of things that you've said that I think. I mean, you would find that interesting. So he's, he's kind of anti. He's an anti democracy. He thinks Democracy's failed. I don't 100 agree with him. But from that he moves forward and talks about government should be run like a company and you essentially need a CEO. And when you've talked about you with your SMEs. Yeah, it's similar, similar language. But the other thing he talks about is.
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And again, just to a certain extent, that's correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Subject expert.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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But the other thing you mentioned earlier is when you talked about you don't want to have division, which I get and I question myself and that sometimes. But he said politics is not about compromise or debate. It's about power. It's just about power. You have to go out and you have to be like, almost like what Donald Trump has done. It was all about power and dominating your opponents and winning through power. I think you certainly enjoy the interview.
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I think power is a wretched thing. It distracts. It's.
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He's not talking about the abuse of power.
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Yeah, I wanted power, but one, yeah.
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As a tool to dominate your opponent to win.
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Yeah, I can understand that. But you haven't really got true power until you're in that position. So it's almost being smart and clever to work your way towards power. Because if I was going to tell you everything that I would implement when I'm in power, then that would probably ruin my campaign. Or it would, you know, create division. Where people go, oh, that's a. You know, so. And again, you're only as powerful as you want to be when you're in that position. And this is what's really sort of intriguing about power is like, like right now I've got zero power. You know, I've got. I'm talking to the people, I'm voicing my interests, I'm voicing certain policies. It's passion right now. It's passion, it's patriotism, it's, you know, people can see that what they do is that it's hope. At the moment, people are hanging on to hope. If I could tell you the amount of messages that come through saying, and you've actually, you've given me hope if you get in and I'm going to move back to London. So hope over power right now. And I think that that's really, really important how you, how you manage that hope. Because ultimately what you're doing is you're, you're manipulating and playing with people's feelings and mindset and that can never be mistrusted or misguided. But when they see that you're passionate about it, regardless of your, your knowledge, when they see that you're passionate and, you know, is coming from the heart, right? That's where you touch people's hearts. That's where hope really, really comes to the forefront. So at the moment, I can see what you mean about power, but at the moment, it's, it's mine is, is quite a pure approach. It comes from passion, it comes from patriotism, it comes from, you know, people. You know, this is another thing as well, mate. Like you, my feet, my ears on the, on the ground, my. I, I can hear the, the screams, I can hear the cries for help. I can feel the vibrations of the, the, the vibrations getting more and more violent. We're on tender hooks right now. And people say to me, are we close to a civil war? And I'm like, no, we're close to. We. We're in civil unrest to a civil war. No, because you know that that needs to be managed in a way and done in a correct manner. However, it could be easily, easily structured in a way where civil war could be implemented with the right people backing it. So again, you know, this is, this is another territory that is very, very vulnerable at the moment, but with the right orders given to the right people, to the right crowd, then that, that could be a lot more easily implemented right now as we sit here face to face than it would have been a year ago.
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B
Well, like I said, I mean, I'm only a couple of years older than you. I was born in 78. I've never known a time like this.
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A
Yeah, it's. It's crazy. Yeah, but it's crazy, mate. It's crazy. But it's needed. I think we have. We needed to get to this in order. If I'd have said 10 years ago I'm running for mayor of London, I would have gone off and stick to your filming, right? You know, your next special va. You're great at what you do. Teamwork, team building, you know, positive mindset. You know, you're a mindset, sort of mentor. Stick to that, stick to what you're best at. But now, you know, 10 years on saying that I'm running for mayor of London, that, that's. And people supporting and backing and actually going, actually, this could work. That's where we've got to in such a short amount of time.
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Do you think for you.
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So that speaks volumes for itself about the fragility and the change, the drastic. Not just change, the drastic change that people want.
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Yeah, no. Do you know what? Because when I was doing, when I'm doing my filming, so I'm still very much in my filming, you know, I'm filming a new series of, let's call it SAS Dubai. So through my own production company in the UAE, you know it's, we're 10 years in now since the first series. So yeah, sort of like a 10 year anniversary and that's. It's going to blow in the UAE like it did in the UK when I was involved, like it did in Australia when I was involved. But now, you know, I own a brand new revamped format running for my production company is going to be OSN have commissioned it. OSN are like the biggest sort of platform in the Middle East. It's going to go out to 22 regions across the Middle East. So it's a big, big commitment. But when I look the reason why I love doing SAS and why I always go back to it even after the Channel 4 sort of nonsense that happened and, you know, people like. And just separate yourself from the franchise. It's obviously gone really toxic, really woke, really, you know, you know, that sort of whole sort of era of, of when wokeness, sort of just landed on the table overnight. I was like, no, because what the recruits get out of that, the tools that I give them to, for them to come become a better version of themselves and then for them to change their lives, that's. I'm providing a service, you know, I'm giving them my knowledge, my experience. Yeah, through tough love. If you look at it through me, just running a boot camp and you just see me screaming and shouting as a disciplinarian, then you're. You're probably just watching mundane tv. You know, you switched off from. From work and you're just like, oh, this is sort of. You don't have to think about it. People are just getting thrashed. But when you look deep into that show and what I do as a. As an instructor, as a mentor, is I make people realize what they're capable of. Right. And that's a powerful tool when you make people realize what they're capable of. And the proof is in the pudding. You know, look at all the recruits I've taken through. I challenge you to go and find one of them that says that I haven't changed their outlook on life. You know, the people that have got towards the back end of the course and it's that service, it goes back to that service, serving people. And this is. This is the biggest calling, is going back to serve the people, My people of my country, of my capital. So there, there's nothing missing in between, because it's. It's great to. To revisit that.
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B
It's all service, isn't it?
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But it's all service.
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B
But there's an interesting contradiction with what we've got from our political elite over this last 20, 30 years, in that you spent a lot of time kind of not accepting bullshit, calling people out and making them, as you said, realize what they're capable of. We've kind of done the opposite in our country. We've made people realize what they can complain about and we've kind of done the opposite.
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It has gone. We are in, like, victim decline, victim culture, victim mentality.
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B
Like, how would you deal with someone coming in with a victim mentality? To you?
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I put them through a process, a process of accountability.
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B
Yeah.
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Being honest with themselves. I'd sit them down first and foremost, and I'd hear them Out. And what I take from that conversation is, oh, poor me, this happened to me. You know, it's because of this, it's because of that. And then I'd completely flip the next session into, tell me what about you, Because I'm gonna do it if you don't. What? Well, tell me your faults. Because all you've told me about is how you're hard done by. You know, you're entitled to this. This has happened to you, not because of you. There's a whole process that I would go through. And again, on SAS, it's great because I've got them for 10 days. I see that straight from the off, right? Their attitude, their demeanors, hence why we get them in and talk to them. If you can be completely honest with yourself, which is the most courageous thing you can do, Pete, people say to me, what's the bravest thing that you've ever done? And I go back to a moment where I just tore myself apart. You know, I found myself isolated. No one wanted to work with me, no one wanted to be around me. This was when I was very young, when I first joined the military. You know, I just wanted to be the best at everything. And I was. I got best recruit, best pt. But I tread over your head to get to that trophy, right? So ultimately then, when I got to my unit and still, like, you know, for front of the runs, I wasn't pushing people behind me. You know, I was just like, boom, boom, boom. Thank you. Medals, medals, trophies, trophies. Then you find yourself isolated. No one wants to work with you. You know, no one wants to be around you. You know, people feel threatened and, you know, so when I sat down, I remember sort of sitting down on a step thinking, why are people getting promoted over me? Why are people going on the courses that I want? Why am I sat by myself and I strip myself? Because you're a egotistical twat. You want to be the best at everything. You're willing to. You know, you're in. You're in the army, and there's meant to be the ultimate teamwork, the ultimate unity, the ultimate coming together, but yet you're willing to fucking tread on everyone to fucking push them out the way to get to the finish line first. And I remember ripping myself apart and going, fucking hell. I need to fucking get my ego in check. Maybe don't be the best at everything, but try and be the best at your job, you know, Try and be the best teammate you can be. You know, when I ripped myself apart and it was so hard to do because you wanted to bat it off and you want to, but the problem's right there, right there in front of you to be solved. And if you can go through that process of every now and then, and you have to do it consistently, but the more you do it, the easier it becomes you subconsciously do it. I debrief myself all the time. I could have done that. Yeah, maybe I was a bit harsh on that or I didn't listen to him. I should have listened to him because actually he's right about what he said there. And, you know, my ego took away all my, you know, my pride of being a leader sort of came into play. But I need to get that in check. I need to put this in check. And, and when you can do that to yourself, you know what the flip on that is? You have no problem being, calling people out and doing it to other people. Because I know they, they can come at me, then I can go, yeah, you know what, you're right about that. Yeah, I did, did approach that wrong. I get it all the time. And you, you voice that a bit wrong. And I look back, I go, yeah, do you know what I did? What do you, what do you recommend? Maybe talk, you know, do it like this, this and this and this, or your approach towards leadership. And when you were going, no, let's just get through it, it's like, whoa, take a step back, listen to, listen to your, to your muckers.
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It's like an excellence without ego.
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Yeah, yeah, next. But ego now, the ego is really important. It's needed. The, the excellence with your ego in check. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's it. And it's almost as well is that, you know, the people talk about the pursuit of excellence. You know, you, you get to that excellence. And then because I think it's very important that you realize that it's not just a pursuit of excellence. You can get to that excellence. You know, people who function, they're high function operators of whatever they do, they've reached that excellence, hence why they're in the top tier of what they do. Then after that, it's just about fine tuning it. And it's the fine tuning now, there's not a next stage. The fine tuning is that what have I learned today? How can I do better? How can I be better? How can I take a 0.1% out of today and put it in there to progress in a way that, that, that's working where the trajectory is just on a slight incline and not on A. Not on a downward slope.
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B
But can that bring in a piece with it?
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No, it brings an inner. In a motivation, I think. Okay. Yeah. And in a motivation to. To be better. So my.
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B
But what. I'm sorry, can I just go back to that? Because what I mean by that is when you talked about your early days, you wanted to win everything, you know, and you. You kind of ended up isolated.
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Yeah.
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If you, if you can avoid that isolation, you. It becomes a more peaceful progression of excellence rather than a. I don't know.
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It does. No, no, it does. But then you're sort of, you know, you're having to put in the hard work to change those aspects of you, you know, because that's. They're just naturally been. You know, whether you. How you've been brought up, how that, you know, that's been ingrained into you. So you're going against that grain. So it's, you know, and I'm. And I'm thinking, I know I've got to do this, but I want to. I want to be the first through that finish line, you know, so it's, It's. There is an element of peace once you succeed as a team, as a collective, as a group, and. But there's always that fight against who you naturally are, what's naturally in your DNA. You know, it's almost like a. There's a little grind on the. On. On the stone, if that makes sense. So it's, It's. Do you know what it is? Becoming at peace with that? I suppose. Yeah. So there is. When you look at it like that. But, but it's. It's hard work, mate. It's. But then I look at things that are hard work, and I think to myself, well, going back to the old saying, you know, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it, right? And this process that I go through, people talk about, you know, what's your purpose? And, you know, I don't have an external purpose. I have external goals and I have external milestones that I want to get to. But my internal purpose, which I absolutely love, that I will never achieve, is to become the best version of who I can be, knowing that I never get there. Because the moment you get there, you reach perfection, and that doesn't exist.
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B
Doesn't exist.
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So I'm constantly chasing that fucking carrot, you know, taking a little. Knowing that I'll never be able to grab it on, becoming a better version of who I am. And that's a lifelong process that will never end until I take my last Breath, but I never get there.
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B
Is your wife ever like, just have a day off?
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Yeah, she does, but it's, it's one of those, you know, we, we've got such a good relationship, myself and my wife, because she's like, you know, she loves just being with the children and, you know, watching them grow and really, you know, looking after the family unit. I love when I finish work, you know, I'm fully in, in with the family. But she's very good at looking me in the eye and going like the Mayor of London stuff. She, she said to me this, it's like being back in them. It's going to be like going back in the military. And I said yes. And she went, well, you do realize, you know, when you're in the military, you prioritize the military. And I did. No, hate to say it. I'm being honest with myself now. I prioritize the military over my family. I had to, I had no choice. They told me I was going to Afghan, I'm going to Afghanistan, even though I was volunteering for as well. But, you know, if my wife said, oh, come home there, I'll be like, no, I've got to go. You know, so the priorities were with that. And it's last 10 years I've managed to prioritize my family. And yeah, I just looked at her and I said, yes, it's bigger than, bigger than us, darling. It's bigger than the family.
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B
It is. I keep looking at myself.
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It's, it's, it's bigger than is, is bigger than, than, than us. And she, but she, she's so good and support and she's like, go and do what you need to do. You. I'm. We're here.
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B
Is. And, and is it because one, you've got a great wife, she's a great mother, you know, the kids are going to be fine.
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A
Yes, mate, so important.
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B
But, but, but is it. I'm wondering if it's a similar thought I've had. It's all those other kids who aren't going to be fine, who haven't got it. They're not set up. They might not have a dad around. They. Their parents are struggling to get by. It's like, you know, your kids are fine. It's those millions of others that maybe you can help shift part of the world, part of this country to make it better for them.
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100 also the screams and the cries. Yeah, 100% the screams and the cries and the calls for help that you hear or the lack thereof. When you look and you go, do you know, you're not even asking, but this is just normal for you. It's like, no, this is where, again, I could sit on my hands and live my lovely life, but my moral compass does not allow me to do that. And that's why I know that regardless of the outcome, I will. I will put my everything into this. And it's coming from a pure of heart. And again, not of power, not of, you know, greed, not of, you know, revenge, of wanting to get my capital back or whatever.
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Service.
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It's. Service.
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B
Service. Yeah. I'm so wondering what's going through your head at the moment, Connor.
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A lot.
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B
Do you think your dad needs to go do sas? That's for sure.
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A
That's for sure. Yeah, mate, listen, come over to Dubai.
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B
I'd be tempted rash.
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A
You in the desert?
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B
Yeah.
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A
I need to get rid of this, mate. That will get rid of that for you.
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B
Yeah, I need to. I need a little bit more discipline in my life. I think I've had it too easy, mate.
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A
Listen, it's one of those when, you know, I say there's no growth and comfort and when you feel, you know, when you feel comfortable, you know, when you. When you're, you know, when you're getting complacent, you know, when you're putting on weight, you know, your body is a phenomenal computer that can answer every single question. If you tap in the right information, I. E. Be honest with yourself and you can just, boom. It's. It's phenomenal. It's like I wake up sometimes, you know, right. You know, I need to go for a run. Just run up the stairs and I'm a bit out, right? Clear the lungs. You know, I listen to my body. People go, what's your training regime? I'm like, whatever my body tells me. You know, I go through moments of running and I go through moments like right now, you know, I've shifted 10 kg and I'm. I'm looking skinny as hell. And I'm going through the process of, like, doing military circuits of sweating out every morning of, you know, CV cardio. I'm not worried about muscular build or, you know, but then probably in, you know, in a few months time, I go, I'll get out. I'm looking a bit skinny now. I'm gonna start hitting the big weights again. You know, I just listen to my body because it. It cannot. The beautiful thing about the human body, mate, is that it can. You cannot lie to yourself, right? You. You can lie to Yourself, therefore you'll live a lie. But you cannot lie to yourself because the truth is, is. Is here. And you know, you can ignore it, you can bat it off, you can try and suppress it, you can try and hide it, but it will always come to the forefront. And if you don't feel, deal with it, manage it and, and action it, then, you know, you, you're just going to live on autopilot and you're going to live a lie. That's what I say to people. Lie to yourself. You're going to live a lie and the only person that can find you out is yourself. Yeah.
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B
And the older you get, the more.
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A
True that becomes true, mate. It's true. Unless you don't get me wrong, there's something dog. But, you know, I've got to a stage in my life where I'm just. If I. If it. If I dread doing it, then I'm just like, just do it. Because it's like, you know, just get it out the way, get it done. You. You can put it off as much as you can, but that fucking dread, you know, is still gonna be there. Still gonna be there. And that's when you ultimately, if you ignore that, that's when you live with regrets.
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B
Yeah. Anything you wanna ask, Com. Man of the moment. I think you should do ses. Can't get that fucker out of the bed in some mornings. He's good. He's good. He's a hard worker. You know, he keeps me in check more than most people.
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A
Yeah. Do you know what? I've got a son. I've got. Got three sons and two daughters. But my son, he's 16, he goes to Millfield.
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B
He's a keen school. Yeah.
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A
And he's five foot ten. You know, I'm like, you know, he's like this, he's, you know, he's just. And you know, I've been training him for the last sort of three to four years when, when he's 13, so. And just seeing the development and you know, and you say about keeping it. Yeah, them keeping you in check. He's like, he's getting to the point now where I'm like, like, dad, you want to hit the gym? And I'm like, do you want to go for a run?
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B
Well, you, you wait till. I mean.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Connor's in his 20s now and he. It really, it really gets to me sometimes because I'm not very good at handling it, but he keeps me in check.
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A
Yeah, absolutely.
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B
And he will say right now, this is probably Me sound like patronizing, but it's actually a compliment. Like he's probably. There's nobody more honest to me than that.
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A
And then him, that's what, that's what you know, he is you. He's. You've got. You've got.
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B
He's half.
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A
DNA's all through you. It structures you. You know you're gonna have that bond for the rest of your life. Yes, it's. And it's again, holding each other accountable is. Is the purest and. And most truthful form of life. It's brilliant. I love it. I love it. It's uncomfortable. But then you fucking embrace that uncomfortable uncomfortability and you make it work for you.
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B
Well, maybe we'll come out and do sas.
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A
Be careful what you wish for, mate. Be careful what you wish for.
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B
Probably need it. Look, good luck, man. Thank you. Yeah, good luck with the running for mayor. I think Siddiq Khan is a. I think he's an embarrassment to this country. I think he lacks courage, conviction. I think it's possibility, accountability. I think it's a team. I think. I love. I love London. I think it's the best city in the world. And I know I'm biased and I'm not from London, I live in Bedford.
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A
But I love lacks a motivation. I don't feel the energy that I used to feel when I come into London. I don't feel the motivation. There needs to be a mindset shift. There needs to be, you know, I need, I need to re. Motivate, which I'm good at. Right. Talk about team building, team bonding on. On a bigger scale. Right. Which we spoke about. But the motivation is. Well, I need to. We need to motivate Londoners. You know, where does the motivation come from? Where does it comes from business, family goals, milestones, whatever you want to call them. So that's something that we spoke about that I'll implement. But just you remember the old saying, you know, the streets are paved in gold. Yeah. I don't feel that anymore.
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B
No.
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So I'm going to bring that back and bring that back through. Through the energy that London once had and through the motivation of wanting to be in. In London that we once had. So, you know, this isn't just a case of making London safe and secure. I'm gonna bring back the energy. Whether that's through nightlife, whether that's through. You know, you just bring in, you know, that motivation that people go the moment I step into London, because I don't feel that anymore.
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B
Well, if you Talk to tourists coming in and their experience. It's not always great. I went out to Paris recently and I was chatting to an American lady. She'd come over and she was off to Paris and she said, London doesn't feel like it used to. She said, I had a great, great time. I went shopping and went to the restaurants, but she said something's off. And so, look, I wish you the best of luck. I hope you do it, I really do. And if we can do anything to help you, just reach out to us and come back on and talk to us when you're ready to talk about policy.
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A
Absolutely. I will be back on once, once I get good traction. So I'm going to start hitting the ground running, you know, a couple of years out. Merrill elections aren't until May of 2028, so, you know, you'll see me hitting the, the streets hard May of next year. It's not long, two year run up to it. Obviously the last year is really scrutinized. That's when the budget scrutinized and, and everything that you do. So I'm going to make some good groundwork, put in some good ground groundwork before then and just, just let people know that I'm there for them. This is, you know, I want to open up London back to its people. I want to make it affordable, I want to make it accessible, I want to make it safe. And I'm going to build the best team of SMEs around me to ensure that.
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B
Well, good luck, man.
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A
Thanks, Pete. You're gentlemen.
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B
Cheers, man.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Thank you everyone for listening. We'll see you all soon.