13 | What Would You Do & Winners of the Week

Summary

The Player’s Box – Episode 13 Summary

Episode Title: What Would You Do & Winners of the Week
Release Date: November 18, 2025
Hosts: Madison Keys, Jessica Pegula, Jennifer Brady, Desirae Krawczyk

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the behind-the-scenes realities of life on the tennis tour with candid, funny stories from the four hosts. They kick off with their classic “Unforced Error or Winner of the Week” segment, delve into a tennis-themed “What Would You Do?” hypothetical game, discuss the tricky business of coaching changes, and field fan questions about everything from racquet dampeners to favorite clothing brands. Caffeine, chaos, and laughter abound.

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Highlights & Key Discussion Points

1. Unforced Error or Winner of the Week

Segment starts: 00:27

Each host shares a recent mishap (“unforced error”) or positive highlight (“winner of the week”) from their personal lives.

• Madison Keys:
  • Winner: The rare Florida winter—enjoyed the cold weather and pulling out winter clothes.

    “I got to pull out all of my warm clothes. Jenny wanted to die, but I thought it was the greatest time ever.” [00:50]

• Jessica Pegula:
  • Winner: She's on vacation in the Bahamas on a boat, happy and thriving.

    “I am on a boat in the Bahamas and I’m thriving.” [01:21]

• Jennifer Brady:
  • Unforced Error: Accidentally walked in on a man in the airplane lavatory after misreading the lock.

    “I went to open the door because it said unlocked, and it was. Supposed to be locked because there was just a man, you know, sitting on the toilet…” [01:46]

• Desirae Krawczyk:
  • Unforced Error: Her dog Pluto was neutered, had a messy accident in the middle of the night with the cone on, resulting in a “farting noise” and diarrhea on the floor.

    “And it’s just like him looking at me like this, like, puppy dog eyes and just diary on the floor.” [03:21]

Memorable Group Banter:

• Generous teasing about who “wins” the week; consensus is Jess gets it for being on a boat.
• “That’s an unforced error for that guy in the plane bathroom. That’s so bad. Also, poor Pluto.” – Pegula [04:07]

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2. Life Updates & Bachelorette Plans

Segment starts: 05:00

• Jenny and Des are recording together in LA ahead of a friend’s “chill” bachelorette—pajamas, s'mores, pizza, no alcohol.

  “It’s going to be like pajamas, board games, s’mores... pizza. It’s going to be chill.” – Desirae [05:52]

• Technical difficulties abound, especially with Jess lagging from the Bahamas.

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3. What Would You Do? – Tennis Edition

Segment starts: 06:25

A new segment with chaotic and funny tennis hypotheticals.

• You accidentally celebrate a point that wasn’t yours—how do you play it off?

  • “You kind of just turn it into a ‘Come on, next point, next point’ instead of ‘Come on, I won that point!’” – Brady [07:44]
  • Real-life examples: third-set tiebreakers confusion, early celebration mishaps.

• How do you mentally reset when losing to someone you think you’re better than?

  • “You cave, lose your mind.” – Keys [10:10]
  • “You just fully crash out.” – Pegula [10:15]
  • “You tell yourself, I need to touch grass.” – Brady [10:25]

• Opponent calls a physio timeout right before you serve. What do you do?

  • “There are so many girls that do it on tour… I have a few that come to mind.” – Krawczyk sassing [11:10]
  • Jess reminds Desirae of a specific time she called for a leg re-tape before a 10-point tiebreaker:

    “I was against you and I was like, seriously, Des, wait against me to get your leg re-taped…” [11:45]

• You shank a ball and hit a child in the stands. How do you recover?

  • “I think you give the two, like, double hands, like, ‘I’m sorry,’ and hope he or she is okay…” – Brady [13:01]
  • Stories about shanking balls, almost hitting partners, ball kids, and even a player’s mom.
  • “Have you ever shanked a ball where, like, it hits… the top and hits the outside?” – Pegula [13:33]

• Rain delay protocol?

  • “Definitely a nap, 100%.” – Krawczyk [16:18]
  • “I don’t nap, so probably eat. Round two, maybe three. Steak—no, not before a match—chicken and rice…” – Brady [16:22]
  • Overanalyzing how close the hotel is and rain-delay logistics.

• When kids hold umbrellas for you on court, is it awkward?

  • “I feel so bad. I’m like, no, I’ll hold it. Come sit down so that we’re both under the umbrella and not just getting poured on.” – Keys [19:28]

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4. Coaching Changes: Firing, Hiring, and Tour Gossip

Segment starts: 19:59

• The annual shuffle: November is when many players change coaches, doubles partners, or teams.

• Processes:

  • “Firing: You just don’t want to work with them anymore… a lot of players do trials, just try coaches for a couple months.” – Pegula [20:23]
  • “I’ve probably changed coaches the most of the four of us. Sometimes it’s mutual, sometimes it’s because I’ve had a few cuckoo coaches.” – Keys [22:38]
  • Public nature of coach changes can amplify drama online.

• Poaching & Behind-the-scenes Shadiness:

  • “Other coaches are poaching players… and then the next week, they’re at a tournament with a different player. That’s, like, really shady.” – Brady [25:33]
  • “There’s definitely players that… start looking for replacements before they’ve finished with their coach... I’ve had coaches be like, ‘Are you looking for someone?’ and you’re like, ‘Aren’t you with someone else?’” – Keys [26:31]

• Memorable moments:

  • “I had a coach last two weeks… I found 13 alcoholic drinks charged to my room and added to the expense… I lost it, but I was so happy.” – Krawczyk [27:52]
  • Pegula: “Maddie’s like, setting the bridge on fire.” – [30:14]
  • Keys: “Yeah, like, I don’t talk to coaches that coached you all because you’re like, ‘this one time they did this,’ and I’m like, dead.” [30:25]

• Surprising coaching pairings:

  • Discussion of Andy Murray coaching Novak Djokovic:

    “I don’t think we’ve ever seen them, like, rivals… in the same era, work together.” – Keys [31:16] “If you’re Andy, you probably want to know literally everything… what he does for his body, how he’s able to do what he does…” – Brady [33:30]

• Marat Safin & Dinara Safina:

  • Fan-girling over Safin joining the tour as a coach; stories about his abs, cigarettes, outgoing personality, memories from childhood crushes.
  • “He truly just doesn’t care. But he’s so funny and engaging…” – Pegula [35:11]

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5. Fan Q&A

Segment starts: 36:30

Fan questions spark more personal anecdotes and rapid-fire debates:

• Dampeners: Do you use them? Do they make a difference?

  • “I do not. I do think they make a big difference, but I always like the way it sounds when I don’t use them.” – Pegula [36:55]
  • “I’ve always used one because I hated the pinging sound… But sometimes I take them out and I’m like, ‘See, now all of a sudden I’m hitting the ball exactly where I want it.’” – Keys [37:04]
  • “As I got older, I saw Saffin wasn’t using one… since then, I haven’t gone back. I do enjoy the little ping.” – Brady [38:02]

• USTA Flex League singles advice:

  • “Don’t hit in the alleys.” – Krawczyk [40:06]
  • “Big targets. Start aiming for the middle of the court…” – Brady [40:10]
  • “Incorporate some of your doubles stuff, come to the net if that’s your strength.” – Krawczyk [40:39]

• Have you ever served without bouncing the ball?

  • “No.” (All around) [41:30]
  • “I’ve tested it on some crappy grass courts… but it’s so weird to serve without not bouncing the ball.” – Brady [41:32]

• Online vs. in-store shopping (clothing):

  • Brady prefers shopping in person and almost never shops online;

    “I’ve online shopped once. I bought one pair of jeans. Ever.” – Brady [43:32]

  • Krawczyk and Keys: Love online shopping, especially to try at home and return.
  • Keys: “A lot of clothes don’t fit me correctly, so I have to buy multiple sizes of the same thing… Or I have to get, like, the tall sizes, which they never have in store.” [45:13]
  • Pegula: Hates it when store staff hovers; must vibe with them or leaves.
  • “I get so hot in those fitting rooms! Those lights are bright.” – Krawczyk [46:47]

• Nightmare shopping items & favorite brands:

  • Trying on jeans for tall/athletic bodies.
  • Pegula: “My entire closet is Free People and Adidas clothes.” [50:10]
  • Keys: Favorite Daughter, Abercrombie.
  • Krawczyk: Kukai, Abercrombie, Aritzia.
  • Brady: “Well, since I’m such a shopaholic… Abercrombie, Babolat…” [51:12]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You cave, lose your mind.” – Madison Keys on being upset when losing to someone you should beat [10:10]
• “No, I’ll hold it. Come sit down so that we’re both under the umbrella and not just getting poured on.” – Madison Keys [19:28]
• “There have been a few cuckoo coaches… some incidents where it’s like, I don’t think we’re coming back from this one.” – Madison Keys [22:47]
• “Coaches poaching players… I think that’s like, really shady.” – Jennifer Brady [25:33]
• “He lasted two weeks because of a trust thing…13 drinks that were charged to my room.” – Desirae Krawczyk [27:52]
• “I get major shoppies and I love an online shop. Love it. You just Apple Pay away.” – Madison Keys [43:55]

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Funniest & Most Memorable Exchanges

• The group riffing on who wins “unforced error of the week”—especially bathroom/airplane and dog disaster stories [01:46–03:45]
• Sassy stories about on-court gamesmanship, fake medical timeouts, and psyching each other out mid-match [11:10–12:42]
• Banter about shanking balls into the stands and ball kid mishaps [13:01–15:09]
• Pegula’s deep-dive skepticism over Andy Murray coaching Novak, and the group’s Marat Safin fan-girling [31:15–35:58]
• Brady’s revelation that she’s only ever online shopped once in her life, to everyone’s stunned disbelief [43:17–44:10]
• Complaints about bad fitting room lighting and the trauma of trying on jeans as a tall athlete [46:37–49:59]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:27 – Unforced Error / Winner of the Week
• 05:00 – Bachelorette plans & technical difficulties
• 06:25 – What Would You Do? (Tennis Hypotheticals)
• 19:59 – Coaching changes, hiring/firing, and gossip
• 36:30 – Fan Q&A (Dampeners, flex league advice, shopping quirks)
• 50:00 – Favorite clothing brands, shopping banter

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Tone and Style:
True to the hosts’ witty, breezy, self-deprecating, and candid style—with spontaneous tangents, lots of friendly ribbing, and real insights into both the glamorous and less-glamorous aspects of pro tennis.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:
This episode is equal parts hilarious personal failures, honest shop talk, and lived-in tennis wisdom. The hosts pull no punches about the quirks and politics of tour life—and show that even the pros have their awkward, chaotic, or just gross moments. You’ll leave feeling like you’re in the locker room with four smart, funny friends.

Transcript

[A]

This is the players box.

[B]

Hi, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the players box. I'm Desiree Krafczyk alongside Madison keys Jess Bagula and literally by Jenny Brady. Please remember to give our podcast five stars and to subscribe to our YouTube channel.

[A]

Subscribe.

[B]

We would very much appreciate it. Okay, so every week, we always start with an unforced error, which could be a failure or a tiny mishap that's happened in our personal lives. If one of us doesn't have an unforced error, we're actually going to incorporate a quote unquote, winner of the week. So with that being said, Maddie, would you like to start us off?

[A]

So I don't have an unforced air of the week. I have it done a whole lot, so go me. I would say my winner of the week has been the Florida winter that we've experienced for the last three days. I have really enjoyed it. We woke up the other day and it was like, 35 degrees. Got to pull out all of my warm clothes. Jenny wanted to die, but I thought it was the greatest time ever.

[B]

Jess.

[C]

I would say it's the fact that I am on a boat in the Bahamas and I'm on vacation this week, and I'm still here, so I am thriving. Oh, sorry. That's my winner.

[A]

If you couldn't tell, I said straight.

[C]

Winner, not unforced error. So, yeah, I'm doing well, Jenny.

[D]

Well, I obviously, here I am with Desiree.

[B]

That's a win.

[D]

Yeah, that's a win. But that wasn't going to be my answer. I did have a little unforced error on the plane on the way here. I was going to the laboratory, and I went to open the door because it said unlocked, and it was.

[B]

Supposed.

[D]

To be locked because there was just a man, you know, sitting on the toilet when I went to open the door. So I just closed it and turned around and went, well, guess I'll use the other one. So I think that was my unforced error of the week. How about you, Des?

[B]

That just reminds me of the gif, the sitting on a toilet. Sitting on a toilet, anyone?

[C]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

Okay, well, we'll have to clip that in. But she said jiff again.

[C]

Yeah. That's all I could think about.

[D]

The GIF master. The gif.

[B]

Anyways, my unforced error this week was that Pluto got his balls cut off and neutered. So he's been struggling. Yeah. And he has a cone on. And in the middle of the Night, which he. Yeah, in the middle of the night, he was hitting the cone at the door, and I was like, maybe he's just like, lost, doesn't know what he's doing. And I wake up to, like, a farting noise.

[D]

And I was like, oh, no.

[B]

And of course I'm like, what is that? So I get my phone, put the flashlight on, and it's just like him looking at me like this, like, puppy dog eyes and just diary on the floor. So that is my unforced error.

[D]

And.

[B]

Poor guy. And yeah. Yeah, but he's okay now. Okay, so who won unforced error slash winner of the week?

[A]

How do we?

[B]

How do we.

[A]

I mean, I appreciate that. I think just on wins the winner.

[B]

This is winning.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Just a tiny little light.

[B]

With the oars out.

[C]

I'm on a raft in the Bahamas.

[B]

I'm on a boat.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel like you're unforced, actually. Both of your unforced airs were also like double unforced stairs, because that's an unforced air for that guy in the. In the plain bathroom when someone walks it on you on a plane. That's so bad. Also, poor Pluto. Unforced air for Pluto.

[B]

He.

[A]

I know his pants.

[B]

Normal pants. The carpet.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah.

[D]

I think pants would have been better for dad.

[B]

I should have put a diaper on him.

[D]

Yeah. But yeah, the bull. The door for the bathroom actually, like, I guess it, like, he, like, didn't close it all the way and then he was, like, trying to lock it.

[B]

After I, like, barged in.

[D]

Barged in. But, like, he was locking it when it wasn't even closed, and I was just like, oh, no, it's gonna happen again to him with someone else.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Anyhow, okay, we've all we got one of each.

[A]

So for those of you who are just listening and not watching this week. Des and Jenny are together this week. We've had a few technical difficulties already with the two of them being physically next to each other, but I think we're gonna make it through. But Jess is also apparently lagging, so don't yell at us if we cut Jess off again.

[B]

Yeah, Jenny and I are together in la. Jenny just flew in a couple hours ago, actually, and we are together because we have a friend that's getting or having her bachelorette party weekend in, I think a couple hours away in Temecula. So we get to hang out together and get liddy titty.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[B]

It's not.

[D]

It's literally going to be the complete opposite. And we're both so excited.

[B]

It's going to be like pajamas, board games, s', mores, like. I'm so excited.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Pizza. It's going to be chill.

[D]

Yeah, but.

[B]

And wine tasting, which you can drink for me if you want.

[D]

No, thanks. I'm good. Well, there will be no alcohol being consumed this weekend.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

It's not that type of bachelorette. Yeah.

[B]

But it'll be fun.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're together. We're not gonna kill each other yet.

[D]

Yeah, not on. Not on camera. We already got a little heated.

[B]

She ate breakfast, so she's okay for now.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So we'll see. But anyways, yeah, we're together.

[C]

Well, that's exciting. So I wanted to start us off on a new little game that we're gonna try called what would you'd do a tennis edition version. I just said virgin. That was weird version. I'm tight now because I'm lagging like nervous.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You're talking really slow.

[C]

Am I? Or is it the lag?

[A]

I think it's great.

[B]

But we're definitely the. The version one was great.

[C]

Virgin version. Tennis version of this game. So I'm gonna ask a few questions and then everyone can ask or I can't tell everyone. Everybody.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[C]

We're gonna start a new segment called what would you do? And it's a tennis edition of this game. We're going to kind of talk about some chaotic hypothetical scenarios and then you can. If it's actually happened to you, you can elaborate and tell that story. So I'm going to start us off with a few. You accidentally celebrate a point that wasn't yours. How do you pretend you're not embarrassed, Jenny?

[D]

I've probably done that before with a fist pump and. Come on. And you kind of just like turn it into a. Okay, come on. Like, next point. Next point. Instead of like, come on, I won that point. Like, come on, next point. So that's how I would turn that around. That's how I would handle that situation. Anybody else?

[B]

I'm trying to think. I've definitely celebrated. Not early. I don't know if that counts. And they actually hit the ball, but they end up hitting it out. But I celebrated thinking that it was gonna be my point. And they got to it. But I didn't get the hindrance call. So that was good. Maybe I should have. But that was my early celebration of that was end up being mine.

[A]

But yeah, Maddie, I don't think I did it. But you know how the third set tiebreakers are. 10 point tiebreakers and sometimes people think that they're seven and they're like, yes, I won. And then they're like, that happened. I think Katie Bolter did that. That's the one that's popping into my head. And did Danielle do it?

[C]

Danielle did one. It happens a lot.

[D]

Also.

[A]

In Australian Open, that actually happens more often, I think. But I don't think I personally have celebrated a point. I think I've gone to serve and I thought that I, like, hit an ace or something, and you kind of start, like, walking away and you have to back. Backpedal, go back up to the line.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've done that.

[C]

I feel like I've probably. I feel like I've done all of, like, the things you've mentioned. I would say, like, well, there's also times where you thought the ball was out and it was, like, in. So you, like, thought you won the point. And then I think I just look at the umpire, like, pissed that, like. What do you mean? Like, that was, like, it was my point. It was out. And then I kind of. I don't know. I just try to bluff my way that it was lucky. I don't know. I don't know. It's like, I just. I think I just bluff that whatever happened, happened, and I try to move on and focus on the next point. You're losing to someone you know you're better than. How do you mentally reset?

[D]

You don't.

[C]

You just.

[A]

You cave, lose your mind.

[C]

What do you. Yeah, you lose your mind.

[A]

You just fully crash out. I don't know.

[B]

You definitely have the thoughts of, like, how is this. How is this happening?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, you tell yourself. Yeah, you tell yourself, I need to touch grass.

[C]

What about your opponent calls a physio timeout right before you serve?

[B]

Oh, this has definitely happened to me before. Not really on a serve, but it's definitely happened. And I. Yeah, I just. I don't know how you can react, but you kind of just, well, okay, it happens. But I think it also depends when it happens, because if you serve, they can't. They can't call it medical.

[D]

Right.

[A]

It would have to be, like. You'd have to be like. Or something. Or something like, catastrophic just happened.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a mind game. And there are so many girls that do it on tour. I have a few that come to mind, but, yeah.

[A]

Oh, DEZ is sassy today.

[D]

Oh, yeah, she is sassy. I already got some of it.

[B]

But I've definitely. I've definitely had someone I'VE called a medical and someone made a comment and was like, oh, my God, they're doing that on purpose. Like, she's not even injured. And I was like, whoa. I never call medicals, like, and that, like, pisses me off, but that's another story, actually.

[C]

I think one time, Des, you called a medical before the 10 point tiebreaker, but I was against you and I was like, seriously, Des, wait. Against me to like, get your leg re taped. I was like, we're like going into the 10 point tiebreaker.

[A]

I was like, oh, my God.

[C]

I think it must have been maybe me and Coco playing you and Sarah somebody. I want to say Demi.

[A]

Demi, maybe.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You had to play two matches that day. No, but we were the first match against you.

[C]

Yeah. And you went like, re tape leg before the 10 point. And I was like, so smart of me. She was like, mind.

[B]

I knew it got her.

[D]

Wait, who got the dub?

[C]

I was melting. Who won?

[B]

Is that semis? No, quarters.

[C]

Quarters, I think. But we played two that day.

[B]

Yeah, but I don't remember. I think we won.

[D]

Did the leg tape work?

[C]

Did you guys win?

[B]

We made finals of Madrid that year, so.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And you guys won, which is probably why I remember it, cuz we lost.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

Okay, what about you shank a ball so bad that you hit a child at the stands?

[A]

What.

[C]

What is your recovery plan? Not sure there is one.

[D]

I think you give the two, like, double hands, like, I'm sorry, like, and hope he or she are okay trying.

[B]

How tight stands to them?

[A]

How tight are you like, next sitter, forehand. You're like, oh, please go in. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Hopefully they're sitting like right behind the court and not like up in the nosebleeds because that shank would be pretty gnarly. Well, not for them if they get hit. Have you guys ever shanked you your own self?

[B]

Have you ever shanked a ball where, like, it hits. You're going for a return and it shanks the top and it hits the outside.

[C]

Yes. Like, I feel that goes hard, like.

[B]

Yeah, that's a line drive.

[D]

Yeah, that's a. Yeah, that, that.

[A]

Oh, I will say I've shanked one and accidentally hit. We were playing at Wimbledon and we were playing doubles and it was post rain, so the grass was a little bit slick and it went off the line and I shanked it and I nailed the ball. Kid that was standing at the net and I was like, I went to my partner. I was like, I don't Think I can hit another ball? This game, like, you have to do everything.

[B]

I don't know if this was the shank. It was just a very late backhand and I, like, was this close to hitting Cat Sanyakova in Guadalajara. It was a very late shot, so I don't know if that counts as a shank.

[C]

Well, you didn't hit a child.

[D]

Yeah, well, I almost hit a player.

[B]

Too, to knock her out.

[C]

Oh, like you. Oh, you were playing with her. You met.

[B]

No, she was sitting on the bench and I was returning on the deuce side. Oh, you were?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

That would have been bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, actually, I've done that.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But, like, took out Robin's mom on Tuesday. She was sitting on the bench watching practice, and Robin was serving. She had to serve out. And I caught the forehand late and literally it missed her by this much. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. And she was looking the other way.

[B]

Oh, I guess that's a better.

[D]

Yeah, it hit. It hit Robin's bag and I was like, oh, wow. Literally, it was. Yeah.

[C]

That lefty spin.

[D]

I don't know, I think I was just like, like, like bird watching or something. Who knows? Honestly.

[C]

I. Yeah, I think if I had a kid in the stands, I would try to find them and like, give them the, like a ball afterwards or sign something for them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If it's like, well, they enough, they.

[A]

Probably already have the ball that hit them. Yeah.

[D]

Tattooed on them.

[C]

Hopefully it didn't hit him hard enough where it, like, bounced off or something.

[A]

Are you like, hey, you want me to sign that ball that just took you out?

[D]

It bounced back into the court.

[C]

Into the court.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

It's terrifying.

[D]

But, yeah.

[C]

Anyways, even though we are professionals, this stuff still happens quite often.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. There's a six hour rain delay and you're second on. What is your delay protocol? Rain delay routine?

[B]

Definitely. Definitely a nap, 100%.

[D]

I don't nap, so probably eat. Like, go get food. Round two, maybe three. Steak. No, not before a match. Chicken and rice. Yeah, probably eat and just like, chill. Go socialize. Find someone, maybe linger. Linger. Find someone to pester.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely nap. Anyone else?

[A]

I think if I'm second on and it's like a solid six hours, depending on how close the hotel is, maybe I go back to my room.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[A]

Because six hours, like, what are the chances that we're getting on that night?

[D]

I guess in six hours.

[A]

Yeah, well, yeah, but you're second on.

[B]

So you got to wait till. It's going to be like 90 minutes.

[A]

Till like 6 hours and then a match.

[D]

Oh, I read it as if, like.

[B]

The first match is on and then.

[D]

You have a six hour, like, rain delay. Like you're first on. Like, you'd have to wait at the course.

[A]

Well, if you were first on, then you wouldn't be second on.

[D]

Now I'm thinking about this. I wouldn't go back to the hotel because what if. What if something happens?

[A]

What if you have six hours and there's.

[D]

Yeah, but like you don't know. You don't know.

[B]

Yeah, a lot.

[D]

How do you know? The anxiety in the brain, the little thoughts start to. What if the car breaks down? What if you. There's traffic.

[A]

What if you can walk? What if you can walk from your hotel?

[B]

If you can walk.

[D]

If this is Hong Kong.

[B]

Yeah, I'll go back to my streetcar or Wimbledon or. Okay, well, not everyone stays in the nice houses at Wimbledon.

[D]

Dubai stays in.

[B]

Oh, Dubai. Jamira.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, definitely butchered that.

[B]

But Genera.

[A]

I feel like we're overthinking this, this question.

[D]

Okay, let's.

[B]

Let's go to the last question. Wait, actually, because this is a good one.

[D]

Moving on to the last. Yeah.

[B]

Is it ever awkward when those kids umbrellas for you? Yeah, I think it is.

[D]

It's.

[A]

Especially if it starts raining.

[D]

Yeah. I feel so bad. I'm like, like, why are you holding the umbrella for me? Or like sometimes I just say like, no, I'm good. Like, it's fine. Like if it's. If they're like holding it for shade. I'm like, no, no, no. Like, you're good. Like, you don't need to do that.

[B]

Some of them are so cute though too. And like the. Like, some of them are so small and like they're trying to hold this big umbrella and they're like, oh, this is heavy. Like, you know, and you're kind of like trying to help them like where the sun is. And they're trying to move it. You're trying to move it for them. And some of them like, say like, thank you and. Or you say thank you. And they're like, oh. Like, they get excited when you talk to them.

[A]

But I've definitely on, like, if it's raining, been like, no, I'll hold it. Come sit down. Like, so that we're both under the.

[B]

Umbrella and not just getting poured on.

[D]

Gotta do it for the kids. What if it's the same kid you hit with the ball earlier.

[B]

Then you hold the umbrella for him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Then you're like, how about you play? I'll be the ball kid today. Like, we'll just switch spots at this point.

[C]

All right.

[B]

It's November, end of the year. There's coaching changes or whatnot. This is the time of year where a lot of players kind of switch teams, whether that be doubles, singles, coaching staff. What is the process of, like, firing and hiring coaches? I feel like it's a little different.

[C]

Hiring and firing coaches. Well, one, the doubles changeups have been wild already, so that's been pretty entertaining. Just as far as teams changing singles, hiring and firing coaches. Just the process. I mean, firing. You just don't want to work with them anymore. And you're like, sorry, I don't think this is working out. I know a lot of players do, like, trials as well. Like, they just try coaches for, like, a couple months to see how it goes, and then obviously you just, like, continue on or, you know, just say it isn't working out. I think a lot of stuff is done through agents as well. I think they take on a lot of, for most singles players, like, the brunt work of kind of communicating with the coaches. As far as more, like, contract stuff or numbers or, like, what deal they want, what deal they don't want. Like, I think all of, like, the really small details for me, I've always just kind of trialed coaches and just decided on if I like it or not. And then usually I do stuff to, like, the end of the year. I guess it depends on what you want to do, but in my case, it's mostly been towards if I like them. I keep it going till, you know, the end of the year, and then off season, you kind of reconvene on what you want to do. But it moved. There's not a lot of options. So I think people honestly start thinking about either hiring or firing. Honestly, like, kind of post us open because you don't want to get stuck not having someone at the beginning of the year, because we only have a few months. And then if you want to trial someone in those few months, let's say you don't like them. After a couple weeks, you have to try another person, and there's just not many options. And you just don't have a lot of time to, like, vet out who you want or what you want. And the next thing you know, we're in Australia and, you know, you're. If you don't like them, you're stuck with somebody in A foreign country really far away for, you know, a month, and then that can get kind of frustrating, I would feel like. So. But it's really. I don't know. For me, it's always been pretty straightforward. I haven't had a ton of coaches. Like, I don't turn over a lot of coaches. I think I really like to find someone that I like, and I stick with them for a very long time. Usually Maddie.

[A]

I've probably changed coaches the most of the four of us.

[D]

Maddie's had a lot of turnover.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I think sometimes. Sometimes it's been mutual, like, people don't want to travel as much, and I don't really like the idea of having lots of people around. So I think sometimes it's been hard to find a coach that wants to do more than, like, 10 weeks, which seems like a lot of weeks for people who are traveling. But in the tennis world, like, that's not really covering anything, especially when you start trying to think about training weeks. And when I was younger, I would go to where the coach was and train there, but then it was really hard for me because I was never home. So as I've gotten older, I've kind of made it. I would like to be home a little bit more. So if I do have to travel for a coach, it's just a handful of weeks, and that kind of limits your options even more. So, yeah, sometimes it's been a mutual. Like, they want to start a family or they want to be home with their kids more. Other times it's been because I've had a few cuckoo coaches. There's been some. Some incidents where it's like, I don't think we're coming back from this one. But, yeah, I mean, it's hard because it's. It's also. Everything is pretty public. Like, you don't have a lot of time to trial people privately without it being put on social media, where it's like, oh, these people are working together. And it might be during a trial period, and at the end of the trial period, you're like, no, like, we're not the right fit and whatever. And then it's like this big thing where it's like, oh, my God, you fired another coach or something. And it's like, well, no, we had a trial. We agreed that it wasn't working, and we moved on. But I don't know. In my defense, I've also, I think, been on tour the longest of everyone, so it's true. Yeah, I'm gonna give myself that yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

With the.

[B]

With the coaching going off, what you're saying, do you. Are you with a coach, like, your current coach? And are you, like, do players say, this isn't working, Like, I'm gonna go try and find a backup before I fire my current coach because you don't want to be left with no coach? Or, like, how does that work? Or how does the word of mouth get around of, hey, we're done, and then do coaches poach you guys? Or how does that. Or do you kind of, like, have a couple coaches in mind that, you know, you would like to work with?

[D]

I've actually heard stories where other, like, coaches are, like, poaching other players instead of players poaching other coaches first. Like, someone will be coaching a player, let's say, at U.S. open, and they're talking with another player that they're not currently coaching. And then it's like, after the player that they're currently coaching is done at U.S. open, they're like, hey, sorry, this isn't working out. And then literally the next week, they're in Asia at a tournament with a different player, and it comes out that, oh, they were actually already talking to them about working together, like, during U.S. open. And I think that's, like, really shady. And honestly, like, if I were that player like, that, like, is working with that person, that coach that did that, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, hold up. Like, that's so wrong. Like, I wouldn't even want to. Like, I don't give a crap who you are. Like, I wouldn't want you to coach me.

[A]

Well, I think it happens both ways. Like, there's definitely players that I think will start looking for replacements before they've finished their partnership with their coach. But then there is also, like, I've had coaches be like, oh, I'm interested. Are you looking for someone? And you're like, are you actively with someone else?

[C]

Yeah, maybe sometimes in your team you kind of have a feeling or, like, maybe you've said a lot of stuff that maybe implies that you're not going to want to, like, continue it after.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

We'll just keep using U.S. open as a benchmark or after Asia. I do think sometimes that's been, like, agents will kind of feel out, like, what is around or what is available, knowing that their player is probably not going to have a coach within a month or so. But, yeah, I agree. Like, I. I do feel like a lot of. Maybe not a lot, but there's definitely a handful of coaches where you hear them, like, Poaching players, and that's, like, tough. It's not a good. Yeah, it's not a good feeling, especially for the player. And maybe they've talked about it. Like, I don't know what happens in those conversations, but a lot of times they haven't talked about it because then the player will be, like, telling you, like, what the heck happened?

[B]

I definitely haven't had many coaches, but I've definitely had one coach that I think the shortest was two weeks. I was playing with another player, and she had brought a coach with her. And I was like, yeah, sure. Like that. Like, let's try it out. He lasted two weeks because of a trust thing. And that was because. Yeah, this was like a. No, no. But he was like, here's my expenses, whatever this is at Indian Walls one year. And I was like, okay. I was like, that seems like a lot. That's weird. So I went to the hotel and I got the receipt printed, and I was like. And there were 13 drinks, alcoholic drinks that were charged to my room, and this was added to the expense. So I was like, oh, I'm going to have so much fun with this. So I went highlighting every single one of them. And I went to him, and I was like, how much did you say, like, you. I owe you for the expenses? And he's like, oh, it's this much. And I was like, that's funny. So I was like, here's the receipt. Here's the receipt. So you're telling me I'm paying for your drinks? I lost it, but I was so happy. And. But that was like a scenario of like, okay, you're playing with this. This partner, and they bring in another coach, and you're like, how do you. How do you manage that? And I was like, I can't work with this person. I don't trust him. This is a big trust thing. And I usually don't look at my coaches, like, expenses because I trust my coach that I have now. So, yeah, but that was a big one for me. And she ended up. We ended up not working with him after, which was great. But, yeah, you definitely. When you see them after, it's kind of like, you say hi, but it's just kind of awkward, you know? Like, I don't know if anyone else has had that situation before of, like, you see an old coach or, you know, maybe not to that extent, but I definitely say hi to, like, coaches that I've worked with in the past. There's no bad blood unless it's, you know, Yeah.

[A]

I was gonna say unless they, like, friends or.

[B]

Friends are like.

[D]

Unless they really do something, like, really bad. I don't know. I. I'm always, like, very, you know, like, I don't really like to, like, burn bridges, because you never know.

[C]

But Maddie's, like, setting the bridge on fire.

[D]

Yeah. I don't even make eye contact.

[B]

I'm not even gonna say hi to that coach. That coach you.

[A]

I like.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, Maddie won't say hi.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I don't talk to coaches that coached you all because you're, like, this one time they did this, and I'm, like, dead.

[D]

They're down.

[A]

No, we don't talk to them anymore.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That was wild. There have been a few players that have gone through a lot of coaches this year or in past years, but are there any coaches that. Coaches. Players that have paired up that, like, surprised you guys or. I mean, I don't. I'm trying to think. They were short. Andy.

[A]

Andy. And Novak was.

[B]

Interesting because Andy just finished.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, yeah. But I also thought about that. It's more so, like, I don't think we've ever really seen them, like, rivals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the same era. Work together.

[D]

Yeah. And probably has, like, Andy's, like, never coached.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Anyone?

[A]

Well, yeah. Because he was playing up until the week before he started coaching.

[D]

I know. So I was like, is he actually, like, coaching or, like, is this, like. It's not really, like, a coach thing? I don't know.

[B]

Do you think, like, he was kind of like, oh, I need. I can't say no. Like, this is, like, something new, and I respect him and Novak and why not take on the challenge? But you would think that after retirement, he wouldn't want to travel as much. But it was a short time.

[A]

Yeah. But wouldn't you think also it would be interesting to get more of, like, an inside look on how Novak is Novak.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, how he. Behind the scenes of what he does, ins and out. Like.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I think also, like, the fact that they were rivals, like, you could see, like, what makes him tick and, like, what were things that helped him beat you as many times as he did? Like, I think that would be an interesting, like, insider that obviously, I don't think is really gonna happen very often.

[C]

I think he was so interested. He was just like, this is so strange. Like, I'm so curious, like, why. Like, why you want me to coach you. But also I'm so interested in knowing how your brain works and, like, how you're thinking out there and I mean, I definitely saw them like they were. I remember maybe, I don't know, I guess Australia was the first event and Novak was like on the bike and he's just there, like talking about like his court positioning and what he should do. And I'm thinking they're going like, what could they possibly be talking about? Like, Novak does everything well. What do you mean? You're like, I feel like I was like, what could they be? What are they talking about? Like, yeah, they're so good. How, how, like, does this really making a difference? But it was interesting to see them like, interacting like that.

[D]

I'd want to see literally, like, everything he does. I'd be like, so are we rooming together? Like, like, literally everything. Like, who knows what he's doing? Scenes, guys like this.

[A]

He's made $200 million in prize money.

[D]

Obviously they're going to. Joking. Oh, my God, I'm joking. But like, I mean, like, like, if you're Andy, you probably want to know literally, like every, like, recovery wise, like, what he does for his body, like, how he's able to be. Yeah, like to do what he does, like, and how long he's been doing.

[B]

Is cool to see, like, the coaches who have played, like when we were growing up watching them and now they're coaching. It's kind of fun to see that. Like, it's nice to see Marat Safin.

[D]

Yeah, I'll second that. I mean, that's the only one.

[B]

I mean, the guy, freaking abs of steel. He was working out in Beijing and I was like, who?

[C]

What?

[B]

And then he lift up his shirt and I was like, holy crap.

[A]

Like, this guy is just.

[B]

Well, yeah, working out a lot, smoking cigarettes. But you know what?

[C]

Whatever works.

[D]

Yeah, we saw him in New York.

[B]

And then his sister was also coaching Daenery Safina. She was coaching for a hot second.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Legend.

[A]

Someone, the two of them. Someone asked me one time, like, who I would want to play mixed doubles with. And growing up, I had a massive crush on Marat. I mean, obviously I think all of us did, but I was like, oh, Marat Saffin. And then I saw, I saw his sister at an event. She was like, do you want me to tell Marat? And I was like, no, don't. Embarrassing.

[C]

Wait.

[D]

She's so savage. I wish. I hope she did.

[A]

It was so funny. And then I'm convinced she told him or something because when I saw him in Madrid, he, like, kept teasing me and I was like, no, stop, please.

[C]

He's been like a funny like, person that's come back on tour that's been so entertaining because he truly like, just doesn't care. But he's so funny and he's like very engaging with everybody and like, he's, he doesn't just like stand there, like not talk to people. Like, he's really funny personality. Like, I've had conversations with him and I'm just like, what? Like I'm just sitting here like talking with Murad Safin. Like it's just a weird, like when you watch him when you're younger and then like all of a sudden he's just there and he's like joking around and being really outgoing and it's like just an interesting, weird, I don't know, thing to me.

[D]

Yeah, I love the addition. Yeah, I hope he never gets fired.

[B]

Do you want to room with him, Andre?

[D]

Yeah, I'd room with him. Maybe I'll tell also, Andre. Hey, do you want to save some expenses? You can put Marat in my room.

[B]

Big fans. Big fans.

[D]

I don't know if you want that, but yeah, we can get two beds. Yeah, or one.

[B]

Oh my God. Anyways, we're moving on.

[D]

Okay, moving on to some fan questions. Okay, first question from Hunks All Around. Is that you from Marat's Heaven? No, first question from Hunks all Around. What are your guys thoughts on dampeners? Do you use them and do they make a difference? Jessica?

[C]

I do not. I do think they make a big difference, but I for some reason always like the way it sounds when I don't use them.

[A]

I have pretty much always used one because I hated the pinging sound when I didn't have one in. And then sometimes I take them out. I will say I went through a phase where I was using this one string and I was kind of like mentally going through it. So I was also searching for like outside things to be the problem instead of me being the problem. And so I like took my dampener out and I was like, I can't find my depth with my dampener. Like I can't feel it. I took it out and then I was like, see, like now all of a sudden I'm hitting the ball like exactly where I want it to be and like 2 inches from the baseline or whatever. So yeah, I do think they make a difference. I don't think they make as big of a difference as I make them out to be sometimes. But yes, I've always used one pretty much. Jenny.

[D]

I used one when I was younger, but as I got Older. I saw, like, Saffin wasn't using one. So I decided one day in practice, you know what? I'm gonna take this little rubber thing out and see how I hit. And since then, I haven't gone back. I do enjoy, like, the little ping. I feel like you can feel the ball more. It hits your strings. I just feel like when you use a dampener, it feels, like, dead. Dead and, like, stamped. Yeah. Like, I don't like the dampen. Wow. I never thought about that.

[B]

Okay, dez, I use a dampener. I definitely. It definitely makes a difference. I don't like the pinging. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, the dampener's out. But I think there are some dampeners. There's a specific dampener that I use with Babla, and it's, like, the flag, and it's, like, the only one I'll use. Or, like, there's a Wimbledon, like, strawberry one, but there are some that are so heavy that I think makes such a difference. And I'm like, oh, no, this is not it. And so it. But I think it definitely makes it more dead if the heavier ones. So. But yeah, I can't play with the. I've actually never tried without a dampener, so that can be an experiment.

[D]

Yeah. This offseason, you should definitely try it.

[A]

Yeah, I have. Yeah. I have put a dampener in before. And again, it was probably, like, a me thing and trying to make it Other issues, but I was like, no, my racket is so heavy now. Like, I can feel it.

[B]

Does feel it gets so much heavier.

[D]

Good.

[B]

I'm glad it's not just me.

[D]

Yeah. Okay, next question from Faye Holmer. Hi, tennis queens. I am playing USTA singles flex league, and I can't win a single match. Any tips for someone who used to play. Who used to only play doubles and now is playing singles help.

[B]

Don't hit in the alleys.

[D]

Find big targets. Yeah, like, just start aiming for the middle of the court, because in doubles, actually, you, like, try to play angles and actually try this time to, like, hit through the middle. Because in doubles, you don't want to hit through the middle, otherwise DES will be all over that ball.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Down your throat. So next time you play singles, just try to aim for the middle of the court, Big targets, and then kind of work yourself back into it.

[B]

And if you're also, like. I mean, depends. In doubles, if you were serving and voling, you could incorporate that too. You know, a little saber, I guess you would call it in a way. But yeah. Might as well incorporate some of your double stuff and try and come to the net if you can, if that is your strength of hitting volleys and being up there. So good luck in your match.

[D]

Yeah, good luck.

[B]

Hopefully that helps.

[D]

Good luck, Faye. You got this. You got this. Queen. Next question. And for those of you listening and not watching, we have lost Jessica and we are just moving on without her. And if she joins, she joins. If she doesn't, it's been a blast. Yeah. Okay, so next question from Chloe Sue, Tennis. Since turning professional, have you ever served without bouncing the ball?

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[D]

I've tested it on some crappy grass courts.

[B]

And you've tested not.

[D]

Not bouncing? Yeah, because I've went to bounce the ball and literally it wouldn't bounce. It literally wouldn't bounce or I'd be like chasing after it. So I was like, okay, I'm just gonna try not bouncing it. But no, it. It's so weird to serve without not bouncing the ball.

[B]

I was always taught to bounce the ball. Like it's part of your routine. Like, I used to bounce it twice, and then I was told, no, you need to bounce more. And I was like, okay, so now I bounce like eight times. But I. Yeah, I've never really tried. Yeah, tried that. There are a few players that don't bounce the ball.

[D]

Yeah, there are. Next question from. Sorry in advance, from Lucasick. Underscore. Julia A. Do you prefer online shopping or going to a store? When it comes to buying clothes? What are. Okay, this is like a multi part question. Should we start with that? Should we start with that and then say the next parts or just lay it all out?

[A]

Let's just start. Let's start with the first part.

[D]

Okay, first part. Part one. I prefer to go to the store, but I hate going to the store. So for the person that actually came at me in the comments and said that I always wear the gray. Gray or Babylon babylot hoodie. Yeah. Because I hate shopping and I like to be comfortable at home when I'm filming the podcast or in other people's homes.

[B]

Real comfortable.

[D]

Yeah, real comfortable. Within 20 minutes of walking in the door, already made myself eggs. Yeah. So I prefer to go to the store. I've online shopped once I bought one pair of jeans. Ever.

[B]

Wait, one time online shopping?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

What?

[B]

Yeah, you don't Amazon just recently.

[D]

Yeah, but I don't buy clothes on Amazon.

[A]

Wait, I'm sorry, you've. You've online shopped one time in your life?

[B]

You should get an award for that.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

What?

[B]

I. Wow.

[A]

I get, like.

[D]

Even after. Yeah. Like, you remember when I had my knee surgery last year and I went to the mall with the UCLA girls.

[A]

Oh, that's true, I guess.

[D]

And they pushed me and I. I bought a wheelchair on Amazon so they could push me around in it so I could go to Abercrombie and buy clothes.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

And try them on. My clothes.

[C]

Is that the ones you bought for Charleston?

[D]

Yeah. So I could go and try them on and buy them in person, not online, which I never even thought about doing. Honestly, never even crossed my mind. Jenny, you should just buy the clothes online.

[C]

You're so particular. This also goes back to you. So particular about everything.

[B]

It works then.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, I get major shoppies and I love an online shop. Love it. You just Apple pay away.

[B]

It's amazing. It's amazing. Yeah, I definitely love online shopping. I, yeah. Love it. It's also nice because then you get to try it with the clothes that are at your house. If there's some specific item that, to me, I think is great, like, I'll just order, like four pairs of jeans, different ones. And then if I need to just go to UPS and return it.

[A]

I also feel like a lot of clothes don't fit me correctly, so I have to buy multiple sizes of the same thing. And a lot of times you can't find that in store. Or I have to get, like, the tall sizes, which they never have in store and all of that. So I have to get a lot of my stuff online and I like being able to order a lot of stuff and then send it back if it doesn't fit.

[D]

Yeah. Actually, for those of you listening, if you do need tall sizes, Abercrombie does have tall sizes online and the woman told me that when I was checking out one day, but I never ordered online. Jess.

[A]

Irrelevant.

[D]

Irrelevant. But also, like, relevant. You're welcome in advance.

[B]

Like, to all the tall girlies.

[D]

Yeah, to all the. To all the tall girlies. We feel you. I got legs for days.

[C]

I love online shopping. I will also never shop in person and order. You know when they say, oh, we don't have your size, but we'll order it online and ship it to you? I never do that. I don't know.

[A]

Why don't you come and order it myself?

[C]

Yeah. I don't like the stress of, like, you. Me giving you my address and my shipping and, like, whatever. I actually. I hate. I've never done that ever in my life. I would either just online shop or I'm gonna buy it in the store. It will never be a hybrid situation.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The one thing I don't like about, like, going shopping is because I get so. I mean, for those of you that know me, I get so hot in those fitting rooms. Like, those lights are bright.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

And it is just hot in there. You know, it's got a little airflow. Yeah, no, it's.

[A]

Yeah, I just.

[B]

And you're trying on jeans or, like, just.

[C]

You get a bad mirror and it just ruins.

[D]

Oh, God.

[B]

Or like, oh, mirrors that go around you, like.

[D]

And I'm like, wait.

[A]

Or bad. Or bad lighting. Bad lighting in the fitting room. And you're like, am I the ugliest person that's ever tried clothes on? Yeah.

[D]

Am I the ugliest person that's ever walked in this store? Like, I'm about to ask the girl next to me, hey, is your lighting better over there?

[A]

Like, but it's also, like, sometimes I'm like, have I gained 35 pounds walking into the store? Like, why does nothing.

[B]

Wide, wide, short mirror.

[D]

Oh, I'm glad I'm not the only one then. That's also why I hate shopping. Add to the list. Yeah, actually, this. Another part of this question was, is there any part of clothing that makes shopping a nightmare for you? Yeah. Trying on. Yeah, trying on. Well, you guys. Because you. Yeah, but.

[B]

But that dunk bust in.

[D]

But, yeah, I would have to say, like, the trying on part. And, like, if you didn't originally plan on trying on clothes that day and, like, you're wearing something that's, like, not easily, like, to take off. Put on. Put off. Or like. Yeah, like, if you just, like, weren't prepared to, like, try on clothes and you're trying on clothes, it's like, yeah, that makes. That makes it a nightmare.

[C]

I always.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, go ahead, Jess. You go. Well, we still have.

[C]

I also have a hard time shopping. Sometimes the people in stores. Hi, Pluto. Like, you. Sometimes you get a person that you click with, and they just, like, they're getting you. They get your sizes. It's easy. Sometimes you're not, like, feeling it, and the person's, like, following you around and stresses me out. I'm like, I just don't. Can you just, like, leave me alone? So it, like, also depends on the people in the store. Like, if someone is just, I don't know, rude or just, like, super clingy to you, I will just leave the store because I'm like, I can't do that. And I feel like I have to go through this in my head every time I go into a store, and then it gets really tiring. So for some reason, for me, like the social. Interacting with the store people. Yeah.

[A]

I don't like the process of trying on clothes, especially jeans, because they never fit right. It's like very. It's very hard to find something that fits over my butt, but then isn't, like, falling off of my waist. So the amount of times I've gone in and I like, go to pull pants up and they literally get stuck, like, mid thigh. And I'm like, awesome. Or like you said, you'll have someone who's following you around and they're like, oh, my God, you're so skinny. Here's a size four. And I'm like, I haven't been a size four since I was 10. Like, what are we talking about? But no, that won't fit me. Thank you so much. My arm.

[D]

Yeah, I don't know if it'll fit my arm.

[B]

Does anyone have. Okay, top three favorite brands to shop at? Jess, Go.

[C]

Free people.

[D]

This was the third part of the question.

[C]

Free people. I literally. My entire closet is like, free people. I have some random reformation. I have some random Abercrombie. But, like, my entire closet is, like, free people in Adidas clothes.

[D]

It's wild.

[C]

Maddie.

[A]

Maddie, Favorite daughter. Because their clothes are really long. They have, like, long arms and long legs. So I love that.

[D]

Oh, I need to look at that.

[A]

And Abercrombie. I do like Abercrombie. It's kind of my go to. And what's my third one? That's honestly, that's like, most of my closet.

[D]

Dez.

[B]

Yeah, I love. I don't know if you've heard the brand. It's called Kukai. It's an Australian brand. Love that Abercrombie. Aritzia a little bit, maybe just from Tops there. But yeah, those are my three. I really shop at Jenny.

[D]

Well, since I'm such a shopaholic. I don't know, I would say probably Abercrombie.

[C]

Babolat, Bablat.

[D]

Trader Joe's.

[B]

I mean, if we're talking. If we're talking that.

[D]

Yes. Whole Foods. And, you know, if I'm in La Erewhon.

[B]

Oh, should we go there after?

[A]

No.

[D]

So, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, probably just so food places for Jenny.

[D]

Yeah. I could spend all day at the grocery store or eating whatever. So, yeah, to each their own. Okay, well, thanks, everyone, for your fan questions this week. Just please make sure to leave us a rating and review. It helps people find out about the podcast and don't forget to watch us on the players box YouTube page to see Jess come in and out. And if you want to ask us a question, please DM us on Instagram at the players Box Pod. And if you would also like to leave a question, you can email us at the players box podmail.com thanks and hope to see you guys next week.