31 | Miami Open Memories & Indian Wells Headlines

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Player's Box Episode 31

Title: Miami Open Memories & Indian Wells Headlines
Hosts: Madison Keys, Jessica Pegula, Jennifer Brady, Desirae Krawczyk
Date: March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Player’s Box brings listeners behind the scenes at the Miami Open, with the four hosts sharing personal memories, travel chaos, and pop-culture stories. They deep dive into their Miami and Indian Wells experiences—on and off the court—including celeb sightings, infamous rule changes, racquet string drama, and wild nights out. The group also covers recent hot-button tennis headlines and answers quirky fan questions. The tone is candid, playful, and loaded with inside jokes.

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Miami Open Memories (00:55–07:57)

Unforced Error of the Week

• The group’s planned live podcast at the Miami Open was rained out:
  “Our unforced error is that we were supposed to film our live podcast today in Miami…But sadly, the weather did not hold up.” – Desirae Krawczyk (00:58)

Personal Miami Connections

• Madison Keys: Recalls childhood visits and her first pro tournament.
  “It was the tournament that I grew up driving to…One of the first tournaments I ever played as a professional.” (02:48)
• Jessica Pegula: Loves playing close to home and welcomes the humidity— “Floridians embrace the sweat!” (03:44)
• Desirae Krawczyk: Prefers Miami’s social vibe over Indian Wells’ dry heat.
• Jennifer Brady: Enjoys sleeping in her own bed now that the tournament is at Hard Rock Stadium (04:23).

Celebrity Sightings

• Bon Jovi at the Miami Open & Coco Gauff didn’t recognize him (05:04).
• Jimmy Butler: The “Big Face” coffee collab and group latte art lesson (05:27).
• Memorable moment: “Did you give Jimmy the coffee lesson?” “We were all early in our latte art journey.” – Madison Keys (05:54)

Fond (and Not-So-Fond) Memories

• Pegula’s singles final and doubles win with Coco Gauff (06:45).
• Desirae: “I haven’t really done well in Miami, so let’s just hope my memories are better this year!” (06:56)
• Keys: Playing her home tournament at age 14 with a wild card (07:09).
• Brady: “Some nights out…Maybe those are some good memories.” (07:57)

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Indian Wells Headlines & Tennis Talk (13:07–24:03)

The Hindrance Rule Controversy (13:22)

• Discussion of recent Indian Wells matches with confusing “hindrance” calls:

  • Medvedev vs. Draper
  • Rinderknech vs. Djokovic

• Pegula: “It’s kind of stupid…to go back and challenge something that already happened.” (15:13)

• Keys: “Now that it's electronic line calling…no one does it [stops points] anymore. So I do like video review after.” (15:54)

• Krawczyk: “Now anytime you lose the point, you’re going to be like, hindrance.” (17:56)

• Brady: “We’ve all had that moment where you both look at each other and you kind of stop.” (17:05)

String Experiments & Meltdowns (18:49)

• Jack Draper’s decision to switch to gut strings for injury relief, sparking a host confessional on string disasters.
• Jess Pegula: “I tried that in Montreal…I had a meltdown about mine.” (19:09)
• Desirae: “Trying gut in 120 degrees in Arizona probably wasn’t the smartest thing.” (19:12)
• Madison: “I used gut in the cross for my wrist…switched to all poly. I thought I was going to freak out!” (19:39)
• Group reminisces about string tensions reaching 68 lbs, shoulder aches, and crash-outs when making changes.

Stadium 2’s Empty Stands Controversy (21:30)

• The startling lack of crowds at Stadium 2, Indian Wells.
  • Jenny: “I came in with my headphones on…walk out and it’s crickets!” (22:21)
  • Keys: “I don’t know if they did separate ticket sales for morning and night…night matches were empty.” (22:47)
  • Pegula: “That court’s great to play on when it’s full.” (23:55)
  • Group hopes for a fix next year.

Golf at Indian Wells (24:04)

• Who actually golfs?
  • Pegula: “I have days where I’m like, wow, I’m really good. And then I have days where I’m so bad.” (25:04)
  • Most try it for fun, but only Pegula plays regularly; the others enjoy “driver-only” at Top Golf.
  • Brady: “Most of the time I spent looking for my ball.” (24:24)

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Miami Life & Off-Court Stories (28:25–36:26)

Nightlife and Parties

• DJ duties: The group nominates Caroline Garcia as tour’s best playlist-maker (29:01).
• Wildest clubbing stories:
  • Jenny: Ended up at Club Space until 6am—“it was all house music, and apparently that’s when it starts bumping…so I left.” (29:58)
  • Jess: Attended a Kendall Jenner tequila launch at Liv, then snuck into the club—“I was sitting diagonal from Kendall Jenner, like, this is so weird!” (31:04)
  • Ultra Music Festival stories: Only Pegula has visited, agrees it’s “too much if you’re not on drugs but amazing people-watching.” (32:23)
  • Desirae: Enjoys listening to Ultra from her hotel window. (32:39)

Beach or Pool?

• Group is strongly “team pool with an umbrella, drink in hand, looking at the beach.”
  • Jenny: “I hate the beach. It’s the sand. It gets everywhere.” (33:21)
  • Madison: “Sunscreen covered. Covered!” (33:46)

Quickfire: Miami Preferences

• Would rather run in Florida humidity than club until 4am (34:09).
• Split on Beach vs. Brickell—“Brickle is too chaotic…but good shopping!” (35:03)
• Hot dogs: divided (Jess is for, Madison is against), but everyone loves the upgraded Miami Open food.

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Memorable Quotes & Laugh-Out-Loud Moments

• “I was locked in. I was ready.” – Jennifer Brady, joking about live show rehearsals (01:40)
• [on latte art] “We were all early in our latte art journey…Hopefully Jimmy has improved.” – Madison Keys (05:54)
• “I have only golfed at Drive Shack. I can only hit the ball with a driver.” – Madison Keys (26:29)
• “I ended up at this place called Club Space. The only music I don’t like is house music, and it’s solely house…It was maybe 6am, apparently when it’s bumping, so we left.” – Jennifer Brady (29:15)
• “Someone asked me to sign their baby one time.” – Madison Keys (39:48)
• “I was like, I don’t want to put Sharpie on your child’s skin.” – Madison Keys (39:52)
• “What crowd? Exactly.” – Quick quip about empty Stadium 2 (21:37)

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Fan Q&A Highlights (39:09–49:49)

Strangest autograph requests:

• Jess Pegula: “Someone printed out my wedding picture…me and my husband and had me sign it.” (39:27)
• Madison Keys: “Someone asked me to sign their baby one time. I said, ‘I don’t want to put Sharpie on your child’s skin.’” (39:48)

Tennis quirks:

• Deliberating whether to reuse a first-serve ball after a let (41:37).
  • “Sometimes I do want the ball back. Like, I like that ball!” – Jenny Brady (42:04)

Staying calm in matches:

• Madison: “It may look like I’m really calm but I’m probably fuming.” (45:03)
• Jess: “Just keep going, keep calm and carry on...It’s just my personality, I’m chill—until I’m not.” (45:48)
• Jenny: “I don’t have any tips for you, Avery. Just take the visor off and reset!” (47:13)
• Group agrees they’re much better at crash outs than staying composed.
  • “The things that come to my brain are my best crash outs—those are easier to think about!” – Madison Keys (47:39)

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• [00:55] — Miami Open live pod plans derailed by rain
• [02:48] — Miami as a home tournament for most of the group
• [05:04] — Celebrity sightings: Bon Jovi and Jimmy Butler
• [06:45] — Pegula’s Miami Open finals, wild card memories
• [13:22] — Indian Wells hindrance controversies
• [19:00] — String drama and on-tour experimenting
• [21:30] — The Stadium 2 crowd problem
• [24:04] — Tennis stars on golf
• [29:15] — Miami nightlife, Club Space, and Liv with Kendall Jenner
• [32:39] — Ultra music festival
• [39:09] — Strangest things fans ask to have signed
• [44:00] — How (not) to stay calm in tough matches

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Final Notes

• The Players Box hosts bring humor, candor, and insider access to both tennis and life beyond the court.
• Throughout, they balance tennis geekiness (“string pattern tension!") with relatable off-court banter, highlighting how even top athletes aren't immune to travel fails, food obsessions, and the occasional emotional meltdown.
• Make sure to watch full episodes on YouTube, submit more quirky fan questions, and grab a seat courtside next week!

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Transcript

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[Madison Keys]

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[Jess Pagola]

Hi, everyone.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Welcome to the players box. I'm Desiree Krafczyk alongside Jenny Brady, Madison Keys, and Jess Pagola. Please remember to give our podcast five stars and subscribe on YouTube. As always, we start with a unforced error of the week. And collectively, our unforced error is that we were supposed to film our live podcast today in Miami at the Miami Open. But sadly, the weather did not hold up and now we are sitting here together filming our episode this week. So, yeah, bummer.

[Madison Keys]

We were very prepared for a live audience. And now there's just two.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, we have our camera crew.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Jenny was dialed into rehearsals, though.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, I was. I was locked in. I was ready. Des and Jess were prepping me, so.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And Des is lit right now.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. And we just did a food

[Madison Keys]

taste

[Jenny Brady]

test and a froze. A love all taste test. And Des is lit is.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. You know, I'm a lightweight, so I've had a couple sips. It's right behind us.

[Jess Pagola]

On an empty stomach.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. Well, yeah, we did the food. Food portion after, so. But yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Okay, so we're all here in Miami, and three out of the four of us live here in Florida. Des, when did you arrive here in Miami?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I got here last night around, like, 8pm and I'm actually staying with Jenny for a couple nights. So thanks for hosting me, Jenny.

[Jess Pagola]

And then you're staying with me, and

[Desiree Krafczyk]

then I'm staying with Jessica.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So thanks for housing me. Thanks, guys.

[Jess Pagola]

You know, anytime. Thank you.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, it's been nice to be here.

[Jenny Brady]

What's everyone's favorite things about the Miami Open? Maddie, would you like to start?

[Madison Keys]

I mean, the food was really good, so the rose or froze, also very good. Um, I think for me, I've always loved the Miami Open. It was the tournament that I grew up driving to. I lived in Boca, so I vividly remember being 10, 11 and driving down. It was one of the first tournaments I ever played as a professional. So I've just always loved coming to this tournament. It's always kind of been my home tournament. Um, and I've just always kind of had a lot of very fond memories of Miami Open. Jess.

[Jess Pagola]

Well, I get to stay home, so that's always my favorite part. Um, yeah, I think I like the conditions. Always plays like a little bit faster. I'm used to training down here. It kind of feels like I'm just in my backyard. A lot of humidity, which I know some of the players hate, but I know, well, Des probably still hates it, but I know Jenny and Maddie love it. I love just getting a nice sweat and just like kind of dying out there.

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[Jess Pagola]

There's something about it for Floridians that we, like, embrace it.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

So I kind of love that aspect that everyone is kind of melting down and we're just like, yes, let's make it more human. So, yeah, I just like staying home. I like the conditions. And any tournament in the US is always like, probably one of my favorites.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Coming from my home tournament in Uels here, it's kind of tough, but we love Miami. But I mean, like they said, it's the humidity here is a little bit different to the dry heat in Indian Wells. I do enjoy coming here. I actually feel like I get to spend more time and it feels at home if. When I'm staying with a friend. So that's been really nice as well for me.

[Jenny Brady]

Obviously, like I said, three out of the four of us are from Florida. So I actually stay at home as well and, you know, make the commute, 45 minute drive. It's really easy, you know, get to sleep in my own bed, which is really nice. And yeah, it's been, you know, a tournament that I've come to a lot. Actually started in Key Biscayne and I would stay in a hotel for that one because it was a bit longer of a drive. So it's nice that it moved here to the Hard Rock Stadium and I get to sleep in my own bed.

[Jess Pagola]

So.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. Does anyone have a celeb sighting that they've seen at the Miami Open? Anyone? Cool.

[Jess Pagola]

Bon Jovi. Last year or the year before? I think he was here.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

He was here watching matches.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, right. Did I make that up or he was here? I feel like I think he was here.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Isn't he a fan of like Casper or isn't there?

[Jess Pagola]

He was definitely here because Coco didn't

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[Jess Pagola]

And Then we had this whole, like, conversation about Bon Jovi. Yeah, that's. I remember. So, I mean, that was pretty cool. He's pretty famous. Yeah. I don't know.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Living on a prayer.

[Madison Keys]

Jimmy always came around. Jimmy Butler. He. His coffee.

[Jess Pagola]

Big face.

[Madison Keys]

Big face. They collabed a couple of years ago here, and he's a huge tennis fan. So we did, like, a coffee lesson one day with Jimmy a couple years ago, So I think that's maybe one of the only celebrities I've ever noticed here.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Were you giving Jimmy the coffee lesson or.

[Madison Keys]

We were kind of all. We were all early in our latte art journey, so we were kind of all trying to figure it out. I don't think any of us were fantastic at it, but hopefully. Hopefully Jimmy is improved.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. And.

[Jenny Brady]

Well, I know you have.

[Madison Keys]

Thank you.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That was.

[Madison Keys]

I was fishing for a compliment. We've seen it.

[Jenny Brady]

I've seen it live. I've seen it live. I've drank it. Yeah. So you've definitely improved. But. Well, for me, I think the last time I played was during COVID so there were no celebs sightings. Just yourself, just, you know, the MD bleachers. Does anyone have their best memory or something that they remember from being here at the Miami Open?

[Jess Pagola]

J. I would say I made finals last year of singles, so that's obviously a good memory. And then I think when Coco and I won the doubles was pretty fun. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I haven't really done well in Miami, so let's just hope my memories are better this year. But off court's always fun. It's always so nice to be out in Miami. And, yeah, like I said, being with friends and hanging out.

[Madison Keys]

So, Ronnie, I would say just being, like, 14 or 15 and getting a wild card and being able to play and getting to play the tournament that I had been watching and be around all of the tennis players that I was, like, running around, like, pointing at and being like, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm looking at them. Being able to be amongst them, I think, was the coolest experience for me.

[Jenny Brady]

I think I'm with DEZ on this one. It hasn't been my best tournament. Obviously. I love it because it's in Florida. I love the conditions. You know, just being home in Florida is so easy. The food scene here is really good. So, yeah, I guess that's maybe a good memory. Maybe some. Some night out, Some nights out. Maybe those are some good memories.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

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[Desiree Krafczyk]

Maddie, when you were younger, when you got the wild cards, were you like excited to play at your home tournament because like obviously you're so young getting the wild cards or were you like, oh my God, I'm playing in front of like all these people that I

[Madison Keys]

think I was just really excited. I don't remember being super nervous. I think also that's the beauty of being like a 14 or 15 year old. You kind of just have like no idea what's going on. So you're just like, oh, this is amazing. I do remember like losing some heartbreakers and just being so distraught. But I think it was more so just being so jazzed that I was able to actually be playing the tournament.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jess Pagola]

Nice.

[Madison Keys]

So we are finishing up Indian Wells. We don't have any winners as of right now as we're filming, but we do have some tennis headlines from the last week. First of all, the hindrance call.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yes.

[Madison Keys]

There were two. There was the Medvedev Draper call, and then there was also Rinder Nechai, Rinderknish and Djokovic. What do we think of the calls? Just. Do you want to chime in first? Okay.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

What was the render deck? Render connect.

[Jess Pagola]

I think what happened there. Sissy pass had like, a sitter overhead. And he missed it, right? Yeah, he missed it. And render catch went like. Like this with his racket. He did, like, a lasso thing. And then Novak just started laughing, was like, no, no, no. What are you doing? Yeah. And the doubles, and they ended up Rennerkinek and Vachero ended up winning. But, yeah, it was just so that happened pre Draper Medvedev. And then I think Medvedev got the idea from Nova. Did I make that up or he saw Novak do that?

[Jenny Brady]

I. I assumed what you're assuming.

[Jess Pagola]

I thought I saw a comment that he.

[Madison Keys]

Maybe we're putting words in Medi's mouth.

[Jess Pagola]

I don't know. So I don't know. Everyone saw the Draper Medvedev. Probably. Yes. If you're listening, just go and watch it. Jack thought the ball looked out. It did actually look very out.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

He threw his hands off a little bit and was like, oh, in the middle of the.

[Jess Pagola]

And then the point carried on, though, for, like, five more shots.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

And Jack won the point. And Danielle was like, there was a hindrance.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And let's do a replay.

[Jess Pagola]

I want to let you replay. And then the umpire ultimately made the decision that it was a hindrance and Jack actually lost the point. I believe it was five all love 15.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

On Jack serves. It was a massive point.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. In the second. I mean, obviously, I. It's a new rule that's changed this year. I think it's kind of stupid, I think, about to go back and challenge something that already happened.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You can also win.

[Jess Pagola]

I like it. For lets. I like or not for. Let's. Sorry. For, like, double bounces. I think that is okay because obviously if it was a double bounce, you won the point. That's fair.

[Madison Keys]

Or a double hit.

[Jess Pagola]

Yes.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

But for hindrance, it is a little weird that you can literally lose the point, like, five, six shots later and go back. I don't blame Danil. Like, I just think it's a bad rule. I don't think he meant to really, like, cheat the system.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I Mean, I think he was taking advantage of it. He was using it because it's there.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. And if you go back, the conversation was really weird. She was like, well, do you want a challenge? And he was kind of like, well, I guess, like, if we have the challenge, I might as well challenge. And then she ultimately made the decision. I just don't think it was a great call.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. I don't have an issue. I actually don't have an issue with the rule because I think now that. Now that it's electronic line calling to get yourself to stop a point is like, no one does it anymore. So I do like that you can do the video review after. I think the chair made a bad call. Personally, I thought Jack made a really good point that if it was hindrance, then I think he would have understood if Daniil had missed the ball after Jack made the gesture. But he hit like, three more balls. It was like, clearly, I didn't hinder. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And Jack said that he was like, well, it didn't really hinder you because you kept playing the next few point, like the few balls. So he was kind of like, I don't think it distracted you that much, honestly. But it's also not your fault. It's the chair's call. So that's what Jack said. But it is. Yeah, it's tough.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. But I also saw Danielle was like, yeah, it didn't technically, like, hinder me on that shot. Like, I didn't miss the shot, but maybe I could have hit the forehand a little bit better. Yes.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Which I totally get, too. Like, because he kind of stopped.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

And then he was.

[Jess Pagola]

We've all had that moment where you both look at each other and you kind of stop.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. It happens at least every match.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Like, I mean, I've done it.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. Where the opponent, like, does some sort of thing and then you both kind of like lock eyes and you're like, wait, was the ball in or out?

[Jess Pagola]

And then you just keep playing.

[Jenny Brady]

And then when it's over, it's over. Yeah, it's like. But yeah, so.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So that's also happened, like when we're playing when I've played doubles and we think it's a let chord, and we're all kind of like, everyone freezes and they're like, wait. So you just keep playing. Because obviously it's not a let. But you can also, I guess, video review that, right? In a way.

[Jenny Brady]

Or not.

[Madison Keys]

I don't think they have video review for let.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, well, I guess not. But I Hate. But I feel like, what if everyone stops them of a point and everyone's

[Jess Pagola]

like, well, I think it just goes to what happens in the point. Unless the umpire calls lead. It's not. Yeah, I don't think you can reveal that.

[Jenny Brady]

No, that's true.

[Madison Keys]

I think that the interesting thing moving forward is will we have to create another rule? Because now anytime you lose the point, you're going to be like, hindrance.

[Jess Pagola]

There was a hindrance happening, so. And I don't know if you guys saw this, but I kind of have a theory. After the point ended, I think Jack, like, walked up to the chair because I think he was going to question how that ball wasn't called. Like, he was questioning the line calling system because it looked like very far out. And I wonder if he didn't actually question that, if he just would have went to the back. I don't know if Danil was going to say anything because when he went up then Danil kind of walked up and was like. But I mean, like, what's going on? Like, you went like this. Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

I almost wonder if he would have just, like, played it off and walked to the back if Danil would have just been like, whatever.

[Madison Keys]

Good theory.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, he kind of made it. He kind of made it like a thing.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

I don't know.

[Madison Keys]

Well, speaking of Jack, he added guts in the main of his racket for strings to help with his shoulder injury.

[Jenny Brady]

Um.

[Jess Pagola]

Good luck. I tried that. I was having major PTSD watching him. Yeah, I tried that in Cincinnati last year.

[Madison Keys]

Jess was crashing out when she tried to gut.

[Jess Pagola]

Oh, sorry. Montreal.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, Montreal.

[Jess Pagola]

Montreal.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Remember when I told you I was trying gut for my. I. I tried gut for when I had an elbow issue, and I changed a lot of things, but I was like, I need to change it to gut because it's going to be better. Obviously, trying gut in 120 degrees in Arizona probably wasn't the smartest thing to do.

[Jess Pagola]

Like the mains.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And like, five days before the. I think it was Montreal or Toronto

[Madison Keys]

a few years back.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And I was like, I am not playing with this string. So I switched back. I was like, I can't do it. It's just flying.

[Jess Pagola]

So, yeah, had a meltdown about mine.

[Madison Keys]

So I actually used to have gut in the cross, and I played with that for the longest time, but I used an 1820 string pattern and I had gut in the cross for my wrist. And then I changed my string pattern to a 1619 and went all, what Is it? I went all Lux. I went all poly.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

And I thought I was going to like freak out because I didn't think the ball was gonna go anywhere. But I also lost like three extra strings so it didn't make that big of a difference. Can't imagine adding gut back in. I also did drop my tension a lot when I got rid of the gut. I used to string the gut at like.

[Jess Pagola]

Oh, I was at 68.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

And my shoulder was about to fall off.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Mine was at 56. And I was like, this is not helping me.

[Jess Pagola]

No. I was literally like, no. It was like. I don't know what happened. I was just. Clearly I was not meant to play

[Madison Keys]

with gut crashing out.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. No. But that was. No, not 68 last year. This was 68. Like when I used to. I used to play with it in the mains a long time ago with RPM blast in the cross and I was stringing it so tight cuz I couldn't control it that my shoulder was hurting. So now I was with Jesse Levine. He's like, why are you playing with this? This is stupid. And he put me in all aloo power Lux. And it's been just great ever since. So I. Until I went to Montreal and I tried to switch back. I think I practiced in uma. I was like, do you feel like I'm playing okay? I was like, I. I kept asking you like for reassurance which is not a good sign. So. Yeah. It's tough life. The gut life. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Have you ever used gut?

[Jenny Brady]

I've never tried it. I'm kind of tempted. I need a mini crash out.

[Jess Pagola]

It is really good on the arm though. That is why people use it. Because it feels great.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Unless you're stringing 68.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Another big talking point from last week was the. The crowds on Stadium 2.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

What crowd?

[Madison Keys]

Exactly.

[Jenny Brady]

There you go.

[Madison Keys]

That was a good one.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, that was.

[Madison Keys]

It's the FR in me.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. It's just quick.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. Well, I think the tournament is. It kind of explained the situation or. So we know what happened.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So did it used to be where grounds passes get you up into Stadium 2? Then they wanted to basically use those just for solely tickets for. Just for stadium too. But I think who. Who played on stadium to Jenny. Yeah. Okay. You guys all played. So I remember when I was playing my doubles match, Jenny, you were on the same time.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And I got off court and there was literally no one there.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, there was no one. I was like so pumped. I was like, oh, 6pm and I came and I had my headphones on and I was like, oh, I don't want the crowd.

[Madison Keys]

I don't want the crowd to psych me out. And then I walk out and I'm like, crickets. Wait, where is everyone?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

They're at my Court 7 match.

[Jenny Brady]

I was like, damn, they're out there watching Des's doubles. Yeah, there were literally like maybe a handful of people out there.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Was it same for you guys as well, Jess?

[Jess Pagola]

Mine was full, but I was kind of during the day. Second match maybe so. Or first or second.

[Madison Keys]

I don't totally know how it worked, but I think it was. I don't know if they did separate ticket sales on Stadium 2 for morning and night sessions because the day sessions always had decent crowds. Not incredible, but it was pretty full. And then the night matches were empty,

[Jess Pagola]

like semis and stuff.

[Madison Keys]

I mean, it's empty the whole time. So I don't know if they were. If it was just like a one package deal. And then obviously people are sitting there all day long, like, you don't only want to be on court too all day long. So I feel like maybe that was what happened. The tournament did say they're going to look into it so that Jenny can

[Jenny Brady]

walk out with my headphones blaring. So next year when I go on Stadium 2, if I get the chance to play there again, my headphones are going to be all the way up. I'm going to get the noise canceling noise. No noise notifications. Your eardrums are going to blow.

[Jess Pagola]

Because that chord's great to play on when it's full.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. It's such a good court. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

They got Nobu out there on the top watching, so hopefully they change that.

[Jenny Brady]

Yes. Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Another thing from Indian Wells is the golf. Oh, everyone loves to golf at Indian Wells. Well, of the four of us, one of us loves to go. Me at Indian Wells for the three of us. Do you love golf? Have any interest?

[Jenny Brady]

I've played it a few times. I've. I actually have played one year at Indian Wells. I played nine holes and then after that I was like, oof. I don't know how I can do 18. Most of the time I spent looking for my ball, so maybe that's why. But I've played a couple courses, but I've never, like, practiced or. I was gonna say trained, but I don't know if you train for gold, but I've never really practiced. So if I get a little bit of practice in, I think I would enjoy it. But there's just, like, something addictive about when you hit a clean shot that

[Jess Pagola]

you're like, oh, coming back. You're, like, so good.

[Jenny Brady]

Oh, my gosh. I wouldn't be the driver for the next hole. And then you shank it in the trees, and you're like, this board sucks. So it's a lot about patience, but I, like. I enjoy watching golf. I always watch golf.

[Madison Keys]

Golf, Jess.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. You love golfing at any wells.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, I. It's always. The courses are amazing, and the weather is always so nice. So it's just like, perfect golfing weather. A lot better down, like, than here in Florida because it's so hot and humid that you're just, like, kind of dying outside. Especially if you play 18, which is, like, maybe four hours tough. So I did go golf one morning. I played, like, 12 holes, and it was really, really nice. Yeah, it's relaxing, but I understand, like, if you don't play that much, it's frustrating to play. And I have days where I'm like, wow. I'm, like, really good. And then I have days where I'm so bad. So, so bad. But all the guys love it. Casper was just talking to me about, like, when he likes to go golfing. Like, usually likes to hit in the morning and then golf in the afternoon. And he's got his places that he likes to play. And I saw, like, Zverev and Carl. I think Carlos golf's a lot now, too. Novak went golfing with them, apparently. Yeah, it is. It's everyone's personality.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

My coach literally went golfing, like, and was thriving.

[Jess Pagola]

But, I mean, we practice in the

[Desiree Krafczyk]

morning, and then he goes and golf. So I just go and chill. But I did not. I'm not a big golfer. I enjoy watching it. I enjoy hitting a driver. My short game is awful.

[Madison Keys]

I have only golfed at Drive Shack, and I actually. I can only hit the ball with a driver.

[Jess Pagola]

Oh, see?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Same.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. I can hit it very far. We don't know where it's going.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

But I hit a backhand.

[Jess Pagola]

Are you lefty or righty?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Like, do you hit your backhand?

[Madison Keys]

No, I think I'm a righty. I think I golf righty. But I also have a theory. I can't hit on the ground level,

[Desiree Krafczyk]

so you have to be on the

[Madison Keys]

T. I have to be elevated.

[Jess Pagola]

So it's like, top golf. Yeah, it's okay.

[Madison Keys]

Top golf. Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So level three.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. I can't be on the ground level. No. I have to have some leverage, some height and elevation in Order to get the ball to go anywhere interesting. Yeah, don't know why. Otherwise it just hooks in every direction and straight down in front of me. If you guys are ever really bored, just make me try to hit a golf ball. Any other stories from Indian Wells this year? Does anyone have any. Anything fun and exciting that you didn't update the group chat on?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Did anyone use their Nobu gift card?

[Madison Keys]

I did not.

[Jess Pagola]

I did justice. I used two gift cards. Oh, yeah. I went twice.

[Madison Keys]

Oh, wow.

[Jess Pagola]

Where'd you get the second one from? So I write tons.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, I went. I went twice.

[Madison Keys]

Have you heard the rumor that there's like a private Nobu under stadium one for the players? Like people think that. Oh, there's like a private one.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

It's not real.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, because I haven't. I haven't been there.

[Jenny Brady]

That does not exist. No, otherwise it probably would have gone.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, I mean, it would make sense

[Jess Pagola]

because you in that little like building that's like right below dining or. No, in stadium.

[Madison Keys]

You're saying in the city it's like allegedly people are saying that there's like a private one under the stadium.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

No, definitely not. Only in stadium too.

[Jess Pagola]

Moving on. Miami is known for beaches, nightlife, great restaurants. So we'll ask a couple Miami. Miami Vice type questions. Dj, you think on tour?

[Jenny Brady]

Well, it's definitely not me. Unless they like 30 second plethora of songs within three minutes.

[Jess Pagola]

Oh, I was gonna say. Yeah, like 10 seconds of each song. Yeah. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Next.

[Jess Pagola]

Definitely not you.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Next.

[Jess Pagola]

I was thinking of Cara.

[Jenny Brady]

Just because I was just about to

[Jess Pagola]

say it's fresh in my mind. Caroline Doha.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, she's on SoundCloud.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, she's on.

[Jenny Brady]

She always sends me songs.

[Jess Pagola]

Great playlist.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, she would be a good one. She loves the vibes.

[Jess Pagola]

Loves it. It's a good one. What about clubbing stories? Jenny, you just said you nights out.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, through my little phase, I ended up one time here I was out and it was like maybe 2 or 3am and then I ended up at this place called Club Space. And I like a wide variety of music, but the only type of music I don't like is house music. And club space is solely house. It's the whole time. And I'm like, I. It was like maybe 6am and apparently this is when this place is like bumping like 6:00am yeah. So we.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Gosh, when?

[Jess Pagola]

At 6:00am?

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Out that late?

[Jess Pagola]

Who are you?

[Jenny Brady]

Jennifer.

[Jess Pagola]

Who was this girl?

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, she's gone. This was. Yeah. Now 6:00am yeah, I'm like, I already got 10 hours of sleeping. But, yeah, club space in Miami. I had to pay, like, 60 bucks just to get in.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Pagola]

And you're a girl, too.

[Madison Keys]

What?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I was like, you get your mini scared on or what?

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. And. And then I was only there for a little bit, and then I was like, I can't do this. So then I left, and I was like, I want my money back.

[Madison Keys]

Security.

[Jenny Brady]

But, yeah, I had a little bit of fun in Miami. Like I said, I never really played well here, so that's why.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

But she clubs.

[Jenny Brady]

Well, yeah. It was always after, never before. And I would stay downtown sometimes.

[Madison Keys]

So.

[Jess Pagola]

Anyone been to live? I've been once.

[Jenny Brady]

No, I wanted to go.

[Jess Pagola]

I've been once with Kendall Jenner.

[Madison Keys]

Oh, that's weird. Wow.

[Jenny Brady]

Wait, you went.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I think I saw that picture.

[Jess Pagola]

I got invited. Dave Grutman.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yes.

[Jess Pagola]

He was like, hey, you should come to, like, Kendall's new Tequila launch. And, like, I never go to Miami. So I went with Kelly. My little sister.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

818. And it ended up being this really, like, intimate dinner. Like, she was sitting right there. I was like, dave, I thought this was, like, a party. Like, why am I sitting diagonal from Kendall Jenner? Like, this is so weird. Like, Kelly and I felt like, like, who are we? And then they went and launched it at Liv. I'd never been Kelly. My sister said she's been a few times. And so they, like, snuck us in through the back, and we were there for, like, literally 10 minutes. And they stayed because they did this whole launch thing, and I was like, I need to get out of here. And we left, and we actually were gonna stay downtown Miami, and we just drove home because we were like, let's just go home.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Have you been out at all?

[Madison Keys]

I've never been out in Miami.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Neither have I. I've only been to, like, those, like, really nice restaurants that we get. Like, is it Gecko? And there's an Italian place. There's also Komodo.

[Jenny Brady]

Oh, they, like, turn in, and they

[Desiree Krafczyk]

turn into a club, and it's actually a really nice vibe, but you just. If you want to, like, have a conversation with a bunch of people, it's really hard to. Yeah, because you're, like, yelling across the screen.

[Jess Pagola]

Circular table. But has anyone gone to Ultra?

[Madison Keys]

No.

[Jenny Brady]

No, not my seat.

[Jess Pagola]

I went for half a day.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Does it count, like, listening from your hotel room?

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, I could see it. I could see the stage from my hotel room.

[Jess Pagola]

One year, I. I went for half a day one time a while ago, and it's just like it was too much because you really have to be like, on drugs.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

And I was not on any drugs. But unbelievable. People watching. I like, like crazy.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. So from my window you can see like a sliver of like, the stage. And I was like, trying to listen to. I think it was chain smokers performing that year. And I was like, okay, they're going on at 10. Like, let me listen in. I'm just like, like zooming in on

[Madison Keys]

my phone and I'm like, something just like.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I was just like jamming.

[Madison Keys]

BEAT DROPS like, obviously you can't sleep

[Desiree Krafczyk]

because it's blaring from, like, you can hear it from the hotel. So, like, I might as well just enjoy it. And then I never stayed there again.

[Jess Pagola]

I mean, it goes on during what, the second weekend in Miami?

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Like, not this weekend, the next weekend? No. Or this weekend.

[Madison Keys]

I think it's this weekend.

[Jess Pagola]

This coming weekend. So it's usually later. Yeah. It's usually chaos.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Does anyone like to lay in the sun?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

No.

[Jess Pagola]

Go to the ocean.

[Jenny Brady]

I hate the beach. It's just the sand. It gets everywhere.

[Madison Keys]

I'm kind of with you. Hot takes, hot.

[Jess Pagola]

Take the beach.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I think I said this where I love sitting by the pool, underneath the little, like, umbrella. Looking at the beach, looking at the sand. That's the. That's my vibe.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

I like an umbrella. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

See, with a cocktail with the froze pool.

[Madison Keys]

Beach in the distance. Sunscreen covered. Covered.

[Jess Pagola]

So not laying in the sun. No, no beach. Would you rather stay out till 4am or run midday in the hottest part of the day or like, highest humidity? What would you choose?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You said run.

[Jess Pagola]

Run.

[Madison Keys]

Oh, or stay out until 4am Run. How long do I have to.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

How long's the running?

[Jess Pagola]

I'll say a mile.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, I would rather run.

[Madison Keys]

Run.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Well, or like an hour.

[Jenny Brady]

Young Jenny would say stale till 4am but now Jenny would say run. Hottest run.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Far from it.

[Jenny Brady]

Like. Yeah, 100 humidity. 100 degrees? Yes. Yeah. Run, run away.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You didn't really specify, like, how fast, so it could have been like a

[Jess Pagola]

really, like an hour, like, workout maybe.

[Jenny Brady]

Oh, oh, our run.

[Jess Pagola]

Our workout. I don't know. I'm making this up.

[Madison Keys]

I was going to say then one mile is like eight and a half.

[Jess Pagola]

Okay. Our workout. Or stay up till 4am if that's the case.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, an hour workout. Not a run.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, just like a workout, but in the hottest part of the day.

[Madison Keys]

That's fine. We play tennis.

[Jess Pagola]

That's true.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That's perfect.

[Jenny Brady]

What about cardio?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Pilates, 1000%.

[Jess Pagola]

Beach or Brickell Beach. Wow.

[Madison Keys]

Brickell is too chaotic.

[Jenny Brady]

I think Beach.

[Jess Pagola]

I would go Brickle if I didn't have to drive. Like if I'm just walking and staying in Brickell. I don't mind Brickell Fair.

[Jenny Brady]

There's just a lot of people.

[Jess Pagola]

Traffic situations, rough.

[Jenny Brady]

There's also a lot of people.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I had a couple drinks to me.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Brickle. Brickle sounds nice.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Good shopping.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Are we gonna try. Oh, the caviar hot dog? We actually didn't.

[Jenny Brady]

No, we didn't try that, but we tried.

[Jess Pagola]

I kind of answered my own question

[Madison Keys]

there, but I'm against hot dogs. I've told everyone here.

[Jess Pagola]

I actually love. Oh, I told everybody I love hot dogs. I didn't really. I wasn't like itching to try the caviar like a Costco hot dog. Like those $50 ones or like baseball game hot dog. Oh, yeah. With a beer. So good.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

But it's pretty good, so. No, and we just tried. Obviously we already said we tried all this. A bunch of different types of food on site. And we tried the Love all. Love all. Thank you for that rose cocktail because it's spelled differently in our notes. What did you call it? 40.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I said 40.

[Madison Keys]

Love or all four? All four.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

All this is pre drinking it.

[Jess Pagola]

That was actually pretty good. So everyone should go out and try some of the stuff on site. We were just saying for a sporting event, it's actually. It was solid.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

It was really good food.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Okay. Well, thanks for that, Jessica.

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[Jenny Brady]

Let's move on to some fan questions from Francis. What is the most random or most memorable thing you've ever been asked to sign? Dez?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I guess a picture of myself.

[Jess Pagola]

I don't know.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Nothing very memorable.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, I said my wedding picture.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Wait, whoa.

[Jess Pagola]

Someone printed out.

[Madison Keys]

That's creepy.

[Jess Pagola]

My. The wedding picture. Me and my husband and had me sign it.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That's memorable.

[Jess Pagola]

It was.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. First thing you think of. Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. That was crazy. That was the crazy thing. I signed.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

No, that. I mean, I signed someone's form. That was weird. But yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Someone asked me to sign up their baby one time.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Where did you sign it?

[Madison Keys]

Like they, they were like, here, sign on their leg. And I was like, I don't want to put Sharpie on your child's skin. They're like, no, no, it's fine. And I was like, I'd really rather not.

[Jess Pagola]

So you didn't sign it?

[Madison Keys]

No I'm not gonna sign a baby

[Jess Pagola]

right on the forehead.

[Madison Keys]

I have had. I have had kids ask me, like, will you sign my forehead and stuff? And I've always asked, is your mom okay? Yeah.

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[Madison Keys]

That's such a great answer.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Great follow up, Jenny.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, body part.

[Jess Pagola]

Which one?

[Jenny Brady]

I don't know. Yeah, like arm, face. A girl had me sign her really nice water bottle last week and I was like, are you sure? Because it was a really nice one.

[Jess Pagola]

Like, what kind? Like a water drop.

[Jenny Brady]

I don't know. It was. I don't know the brand, but it was like a really nice reusable bottle. Like, I was like, this is a nice bottle. Like, are you sure you want my signature on there? She said, yeah, so I signed it. Next question from Matt. This is a mouthful.

[Jess Pagola]

Holy.

[Jenny Brady]

When you are serving and you hit a let, but for some reason the same service ball comes back to you, do you ever take that ball and just serve it again or do you give it back to the ball? Boys slash girls and take a new one. I ask because from my perspective as a fan, it seems like whenever a player does this, they often hit another fault because they are not resetting. And I often want to shout out, don't do it.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Thank you for that, Jennifer.

[Jess Pagola]

I don't think she's done.

[Jenny Brady]

No, that's a good question. Actually, Matt, I've thought the same thing. So I get it. I contempl it. If I hit a let and I get the ball back, am I going to hit another let or am I going to miss the serve? Yeah,

[Jess Pagola]

that's it.

[Jenny Brady]

I don't know. Sometimes, yeah, I do contemplate that. But some. But sometimes I do want the ball back. Like, I like that ball.

[Jess Pagola]

So give it back.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, like, what if it's. What if you're serving and it's like game eight and it's a first serve and it's the freshest ball.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, I want. Yeah, I want it.

[Madison Keys]

You want that ball back?

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

But there's five other ones.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, but what if those ones are all big and fluffy and you want, you want the freshest ball for serve?

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, that's when I would reuse it. I actually think I reused one last match.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I usually don't. If I hit a let, I will switch it out, but then I probably end up picking the same one.

[Jenny Brady]

Wait, how?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Because you can just tell, like if it's not as fresh and if you have like your stencil on it.

[Madison Keys]

No, if you have your sense on it stencil.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Stencil, Sorry.

[Jess Pagola]

Like a fresh. I thought you said scent. I was like, you smell that? You touch the ball like you're perfume.

[Jenny Brady]

I don't have dental.

[Madison Keys]

I don't think you're understanding the question.

[Jenny Brady]

Maybe not you hit a let or a fault, but the. For some reason the ball comes back. So like a. The girl returns the ball back to you and then you catch it. Do you. No, I don't serve again. Or do you give it to the ball?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I switch it out. Yeah.

[Jenny Brady]

Or girls. You switch it out?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I do switch it out.

[Jenny Brady]

Yes. Sometimes I take it.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I've always switched it out.

[Jenny Brady]

But then I contemplate and then you're

[Desiree Krafczyk]

like, shoot, I should have taken that.

[Jess Pagola]

It's a very game time decision.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, it's a game time decision. But I've had the thought, so I appreciate that. He also has had the thought.

[Madison Keys]

I don't think I've ever thought about it.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, I don't.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That's a lot to think about in that.

[Jenny Brady]

I think I just overthink it.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay.

[Madison Keys]

I've got enough other problems on court.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I'm just trying to make a serve here at this point.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. I think I'm just.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Maybe I'm thinking too much. Don't think too much this week.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. I'm just gonna go.

[Jess Pagola]

No. Every time Jenny hits a lead, I'm gonna be like, what is she gonna do?

[Jenny Brady]

Or is she gonna reset? Last question from Avery. How can you all stay so calm and neutral in frustrating times in matches? And do you have any tips if you are struggling in a match? Maddie, do you have any tips?

[Madison Keys]

But you went to Maddie first.

[Jess Pagola]

Yes.

[Madison Keys]

Maddie, do tell.

[Jess Pagola]

How did you handle the let cords? Yes,

[Madison Keys]

I handled it so well. I just, Just, you know, was like, things happen. It's totally fine. Life is not completely against me. I just, I handled. I think I handled it really well and didn't totally spin out about it and think about it for like the next 12 hours as I was laying staring at the ceiling at like 3am handled it super well. I think I just took a deep breath and reset and just bounced right back. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I mean, it may look like I'm really calm, but I'm probably fuming and I have like steam coming out for me. But yeah, it's. Yeah, I don't really have any tips for you. Sorry.

[Madison Keys]

The quicker DEZ walks around the course. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Or I get really. Yeah. As they say, I'm really sassy.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I. I get straight.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I get strut in there. So I think.

[Madison Keys]

I think Jess is probably the only one who can actually take this question.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You should probably take the tips from Jess.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, I don't know. I just like, just keep going, keep calm and carry on. Keep swimming.

[Jenny Brady]

Just keep swimming?

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, just keep swimming. I just play each, like point by point, I guess.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And you're pretty calm person, anyways.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, I think it's just more my personality. I'm. I feel like you guys are more type A than I am. Yeah. Like, all of you are pretty anal about stuff, but throwback to when you

[Madison Keys]

lost your mind at the US Open and doubles.

[Jess Pagola]

Oh, yeah. No, I get like, if. So I'm like the type person where if it, like builds up a lot, then I like, explode. And I like, especially. It seems to happen in doubles, I think because I feel some sort of, like, responsibility to, like, my partner that, like, if they're not going to say anything, like, I will fight somebody, like, for my partner. So I think it's a little bit of like a team thing. But, yeah, I cussed at the umpire and then. Well, I don't know if we already talked about this, but it was like the only time ESPN has ever panned to women's doubles at the US Open and they, like, panned live to our match. And it's me going like, you're effing wrong. After everyone's like, wow, I've never seen Jess so mad. I kind of liked it. And I was like, wait, what? And. Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Is it like napkin flu?

[Jenny Brady]

Okay.

[Jess Pagola]

And they like split screened like Serena. It's like one of her last matches. Or they thought it was gonna be. Yeah. And it. So it was me and Coco, which I think is why they were showing it. But I was like, seriously? But no, I. I don't know. I think I'm just pretty chill.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Until I'm not.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, until she's not. I don't have any tips for you, Avery.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Just take the visor off. Take the visor off?

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, take the visor off and reset.

[Jess Pagola]

We should watch the. That clip of you with the Nottingham or what was it?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, if you want tips.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, we need to post that.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, maybe we should.

[Jenny Brady]

I had a crash out.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

We can probably just post all our crash outs.

[Jess Pagola]

Besides.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, we should do a. I was

[Madison Keys]

about to say instead of. I mean, I feel like we're hijacking Avery's question.

[Jess Pagola]

Sorry, Avery. Total opposite.

[Madison Keys]

I feel like it's like the things that come to my brain are like my best crash outs that. Looking back, I'm like, that was so unhinged. I, like, I feel like those are way easier to think about than being like, wow, I stayed so calm.

[Jess Pagola]

It's kind of. It's kind of more fun to think about in a way. Like, once you're past it.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Unless you get a fine for it or.

[Jenny Brady]

I mean, it's. It's not easy to stay calm. Like, things are not going your way. Your palm is playing so good. You're playing so bad. Oh, Jenny, come on. Like, get it together.

[Jess Pagola]

Jennifer, you're. Wait, Jenny, your last. Your last match, you were playing so well, and whatever. Second set was rough, and I just saw you, like, sitting on the bench and I was like. And I was like, oh, no.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Jess Pagola]

Right after crashing out.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah, after the. After the match, I was on. On my phone and then I saw your text and it was like, oh, come on, Jenny. Just smile or laugh.

[Madison Keys]

Just let it out. You know, it's like.

[Jenny Brady]

Like, I wish I read this during the match.

[Jess Pagola]

And then.

[Jenny Brady]

It's not doing me any good now.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Remember, I took a picture. I was like, wow, Caroline would be so proud of you because you, like. I took a picture of you like this, sitting there, breathing, closing your eyes and resetting. And I was like, oh, that's Jenny.

[Jenny Brady]

I don't know if I was recently.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, I don't know about that.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah, there was one moment

[Madison Keys]

where I

[Jess Pagola]

could just see it in your eyes. I was like, oh, God. Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Maybe we all just have really good, like, neutral faces while we're internally, I

[Jenny Brady]

think, because we're the only ones that know what we're really thinking.

[Jess Pagola]

Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

[Jenny Brady]

Yeah. Okay, well, thank you everyone for your fan questions this week and for joining us on our afternoon live pod that was supposed to be live. I hope everyone enjoyed it. And don't forget to watch us on the players box YouTube page and send us your fan questions on Instagram or on our email@theplayersbox podmail.com thank you and see you next week.

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