34 | Charleston Open, Clay Season & Reality TV

Summary

The Player’s Box – Episode 34 — Charleston Open, Clay Season & Reality TV
Date: April 7, 2026
Hosts: Madison Keys, Jessica Pegula, Jennifer Brady, Desirae Krawczyk

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Player’s Box is packed with laughter, candid stories, and a peek behind the scenes at the Charleston Open as the tennis world transitions into clay season. The hosts—Madison Keys, Jessica Pegula, Jennifer Brady, and Desirae Krawczyk—swap on-court mishaps, discuss tennis news, recount the epic Charleston player party, geek out about reality TV drama, and answer fan questions. It’s an episode that captures their chemistry and wit, with plenty for both tennis and pop culture fans to enjoy.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Unforced Errors of the Week

[01:09 – 09:10]

The crew share their funniest recent flubs:

• Jessica Pegula forgets her tennis shorts and borrows Jenny’s for a televised practice, still hasn't returned them.
  “That was the day they filmed my practice…so was able to, like, tuck the shorts in so no logos were seen.” — Jessica Pegula [01:37]

• Madison Keys accidentally tosses dirty clothes on top of Desirae’s clean whites in the washer.
  “Her white clothes are like, all on the inside of the drum clean, and I’ve thrown all of my dirty clothes on top of it.” — Madison Keys [02:35]

• Desirae Krawczyk loses a tennis racket, location unknown—could be Palm Springs or somewhere mid-flight.
  "To someone who found my racket, I hope you enjoy it, but yeah. Don't know where it is." — Desirae Krawczyk [04:39]

• Jennifer Brady's story involves her mom nearly wandering onto the match court while following the players and having to be corralled back.
  “She stepped one foot on the clay. I was like, no, no, no, this isn’t happening.” — Jennifer Brady [08:16]

Memorable Moment:
Shoutout to Liz (Jenny's mom, an “avid listener”) for nearly joining the doubles lineup—earning an honorary “Unforced Error” of the week.

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2. Nutrition, Mornings, and Quick Product Recommendations

[09:46 – 13:00]

A light-hearted detour into everyday routines:

• “Quick honesty check—have you had a single vegetable today?” becomes a debate on what counts as a vegetable.
• The group discusses convenience breakfasts and healthy habits, plugging Huel and its pros for athletes.
• The segment is marked by playful banter:
  “If I have to mix something, it's not happening.” — Madison Keys [10:58]

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3. Tennis Headlines: Coaching Breakups & Rafa on the Clay

[13:00 – 19:07]

Coaching News

• Discussion on Iga Świątek and Amanda Anisimova parting ways with coaches.

  • The bar is “number one” for Iga, making any change high-stakes.
    “I guess it's a little hard for IGA because the bar is now number one… That’s a tough bar to live up to every single year.” — Madison Keys [13:11]
  • Sometimes a coaching relationship just naturally ends.

• When do you split with a coach?

  • Communication failures, stale dynamics, or no new ideas—that’s usually the sign.
    “If you’re searching for answers and [the coach is] not giving you different options… That’s when it’s maybe not working.” — Jessica Pegula [14:28]
  • “You pay your coach, but they boss you around”—the odd power dynamic unique to individual sports.

• Iga practicing with Rafa Nadal

  • The group jokes that this is terrifying for the field:
    “The last thing we needed IGA to have on the clay was Rafa.” — Madison Keys [15:53] “This should be illegal.” — Jessica Pegula [16:04]

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4. The Charleston Open Player Party Recap

[19:07 – 22:22]

• “It’s probably one of the best player parties.”
• Highlights: Italian food, seafood tower, a live band, Swedish candy dessert wall, casino games, custom shirts, engraved matchbooks, and a magician.
• Notable Quote:
  “People want to go to that players party, you know?” — Jessica Pegula [21:22]
• Discusses tradition of top-notch parties at Charleston, rivalry with Houston’s player party.

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5. More Tour Life Shenanigans & Old Sports Stories

[22:22 – 25:51]

• Francis Tiafoe skipping out on Ben Shelton for an NBA game:
  “He told Ben he wasn't going, but then… he went.” — Jessica Pegula [22:02]

• Madison Keys reveals her car was totaled by doubles player Alison Riske (years ago):
  “She floored it while also reaching for food. She totaled my car.” — Madison Keys [23:36]

  • She kept it quiet; Riske outs herself on Tennis Channel Live.

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6. Adjusting to Clay Season

[25:51 – 31:35]

• Clay Court Adjustments:
  • Longer points, heavier balls, more physical strain.
  • “My warmup takes basically twice as long during clay court season.” — Madison Keys [27:20]
  • Issues with sliding:
    “Des today, watching Maddie, was like, you guys look so cool when you slide. …She’s like, well, I slide after I hit... So you’re just sliding off the court?” — Jessica Pegula & Desirae Krawczyk [30:14]
  • Stories about how they tried (and sometimes failed) to learn to slide as juniors.

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7. Reality TV Corner

[31:54 – 43:59]

• Maddie’s deep-dive recap of “Summer House” drama:

  • Paige, Amanda, and Sierra friendship web, messy breakups, and public hook-ups—blow-by-blow analysis.
  • “Amanda and West do a joint story post on socials, basically confirming they are in fact together. Sierra is, like, heartbroken… in the streets, like, crying in New York…” — Madison Keys [33:00]
  • “What’s the girl code on [dating] your best friend’s ex?” — Desiree Krawczyk [35:07]
  • Consensus: not OK.

• Other Reality TV favorites:

  • Married at First Sight, Love Is Blind, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Vanderpump Rules, Love Island UK.
  • “One of my favorite things about grass season is Love Island UK—because it’s on six nights a week.” — Madison Keys [40:38]
  • Reflections on the life lessons reality TV can impart:
    “Reality TV teaches one very important lesson—that real apologies go far in life.” — Madison Keys [41:46]

• Top Four Reality Shows (per Maddie & Des):

  • Maddie: Real Housewives of Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, (old) New Jersey, Love Island UK [42:27]
  • Des: Beverly Hills, Orange County, Kardashians, Vanderpump Rules [42:49]

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8. “What Would You Do?” – Game Time

[45:51 – 49:28]

• Rapid-fire social scenarios:
  • Bad photo posted by friend?
    “I would care, but I’m not going to be in full melt.” — Desiree Krawczyk [46:22]
  • Not invited to group event?
    “I would probably bring it up just to make someone feel awkward, because I kind of like doing that to be petty.” — Madison Keys [47:02]
  • Friend’s ex DMs you?
    “I think I would respond and just be like, surely you have the wrong person. And then block.” — Madison Keys [49:13]
  • Like your friend’s ex’s posts? Group consensus: only if breakup was cordial.

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9. Two Truths and a Lie (Chaos Edition)

[49:28 – 58:06]

• Each host plays, and hilarity ensues as some forget the rules (Des, Jess).
  • Jenny Brady: Actually failed driver’s test twice, once emailed her passport to a London club bouncer to get in.
  • Madison Keys: Attempted college for one day and quit.
  • Desirae Krawczyk: Was a child actress, but mistakenly gave “one truth, two lies”.
  • Jessica Pegula: Never won a singles ITF title, despite Junior Slam success.

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10. Who Am I? / Fan Questions

[58:06 – 63:41]

Who Am I? Trivia:

• “She has won a junior U.S. open title, is known for her water bottle, and once said she listened to Mozart before a match because Rafa did.” — Jessica Pegula [59:01]

Fan Q&A:

• Pet peeves from the crowd:
  • The collective “aww” after a miss, clapping between first and second serves, passive-aggressive crowd coaching.
    “Let’s get a first serve here!” “You have to stay in that rally!” — (Multiple) [61:28]
• Locker room tension:
  • Not really tense; pros are used to seeing upcoming opponents everywhere—even in the showers. After tough losses, people just give each other quiet space.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On sliding on clay:
  “I think for myself, it’s more trying to bulletproof my body as much as possible… My warmup takes basically twice as long during clay court season.” — Madison Keys [27:20]

• On player-coach power:
  “It's like you as the player are the boss, but you're paying someone to tell you what to do... you're in charge, but you're not.” — Madison Keys [17:58]

• On group invitation FOMO:
  “I'd probably bring it up just to make someone feel awkward, because I kind of like doing that to be petty.” — Madison Keys [47:02]

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Timeline of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 01:09 | Introductions & Unforced Errors | | 09:46 | Mornings & Veggies Check, Product Plugs | | 13:00 | Tennis Headlines & Coaching Drama | | 19:07 | Charleston Open Player Party Recap | | 22:22 | Tour Shenanigans & Old Stories | | 25:51 | Clay Court Adjustments | | 31:54 | Reality TV Corner | | 45:51 | Social Scenarios Game | | 49:28 | Two Truths and a Lie | | 58:06 | Who Am I? & Fan Q&A | | 61:13 | Locker Room Life |

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Summary

This episode is a lively blend of tennis insights, off-court blunders, and passionate reality TV discourse, all presented with the group's signature honesty and wit. With playful storytelling, inside jokes, and a willingness to poke fun at both themselves and each other, Keys, Pegula, Brady, and Krawczyk paint a vivid picture of pro tennis life beyond the baseline—and just how hard they fan out over Bravo shows and Love Island. The show ends with thoughtful fan-engagement, revealing just how connected these pros are to their devoted listeners.

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For listeners: This episode offers plenty of laughs, candid athlete moments, and fresh perspectives on both the professional circuit and pop culture, with memorable quotes and scenarios that will have you feeling right at home in the Player’s Box.

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[Madison Keys]

This is the players box.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Hi everyone. Welcome to the players box. I'm Desiree Krafczyk alongside Jenny Brady, Madison Keys and Jess Pula. As always, a friendly reminder to please give our podcast five stars and subscribe on YouTube. We are coming to you from the Clay court season. We are in Charleston and we'll tell you all about that, about how it's going and what the transition is like here being back on the dirt. But first, let's get into our unforced errors of the week.

[Jessica Pegula]

Jessica Nothing crazy, but the, I don't know, first couple days here in Charleston, like my first day for practice, I forgot to bring tennis shorts. So I ended up using Jenny's, which actually I'm so. Well, one, I'm glad that I had shorts because I literally only had pants with me. And then second, that was the day that they filmed my practice so was able to kind of like tuck the shorts in so no logos were seen. I didn't know if I should continue talking about that. We may have to like get rid of this. I'm not sure. But anyways, I'm glad that Jenny gave me shorts and I actually still have them in my locker. She never got before she left. So thanks Jenny for the shorts. But yeah, that was my. That was my unforced error. Maddie.

[Madison Keys]

So Des and I are staying together this week and I just got back from the courts and I've had a few. Like I've gotten home like later after I've finished practicing, have gone to the physio, I've done some sweet Visits for the tournament. And so I've been getting back, like, kind of late. And so also just like three set match today, kind of out of it. And I've been, like, coming back and doing laundry and whatever. And so I just, like, took all my dirty stuff out of my bag and threw it into the washing machine and, like, didn't even think about it, Was gonna start it, and then was like, oh, I' wait and see if Des has anything. So it's like five minutes later. And I was like, oh, dez, I'm going to start a little laundry. Do you have anything? She's like, no, I just have my whites and everything. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Literally about to start it. She's like, wait, did you take my clothes out of the washing machine? I was like, no. Like, wait, what are you talking about? So I go into it, and her white clothes are like, all on the inside of the drum clean, and I've thrown all of my dirty clothes on top of it. I was like, oh, I didn't see those.

[Jess Pula]

Sorry.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

She's like, what whites are you talking about? I was like, I believe they're in there still. I didn't take them out. And she's like, oh, I'm just trying to grab it. My unforced error this week is that I travel with four rackets because that's. I don't need anymore. And I don't know where my. One of my rackets are. I. I just don't. I think I've, like, lost in the past, like, 10 days and I haven't checked my bag properly, so I'm missing one of my rackets. And they could be in Palm Springs. They could be, like, probably on a flight. I don't. I don't know. So that's my own first error of not knowing my one racket is so.

[Jessica Pegula]

Jenny, wait. What?

[Madison Keys]

What? Oh, wait, I'm running back.

[Jessica Pegula]

I'm so confused.

[Madison Keys]

You don't know.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I don't know what I did with it. So I came back home, obviously had my friend's wedding, and I. I did play tennis, but I just really didn't, like, look at my bag. I only brought two rackets to the court, so I don't know what had happened. And then I got to Charleston and I was like, why are there only three rackets in my bag? And I was like, where. Where would I have lost it? So that's. Yep. I don't know where it is. So to someone who found my racket, I hope you enjoy it, but yeah. Don't know where it is. Anyways, Jenny,

[Jessica Pegula]

I don't know what. Wow.

[Jess Pula]

I'm so confused.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I lost a racket that I don't know where it is.

[Jessica Pegula]

Okay. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Jess Pula]

I think my unforced error is. So I was playing my first round doubles match, which was against Jesse, and we're walking out to the court, and there's a huge line to get into the court, into the stands, and the stadium was already fully packed. Like, it was. The seats were full. There wasn't a seat left in the stadium. And I'm getting ready to walk onto the court and Jess is in front of me. And all of a sudden, I almost feel like Jess has to tell the story because I'm so bad at telling stories. It's like, okay, I got this.

[Jessica Pegula]

You got it.

[Jess Pula]

Okay. Okay. So the security guy goes to open up the gate for us to walk on the court. And as we're about to walk on, Jess is a little bit ahead of me. And I get close to her. And then I see my mom walking, and she thinks that the gate opening is to get into the stance and it's really to get into the court. And she starts walking, like, walking out almost onto the court. And Jesse's in front of me, and she looks at me and I look at her and then I just go, mom. Mom.

[Jessica Pegula]

No.

[Jess Pula]

Like, no, mom, what are you doing? Get out of here. But yeah, and then Jess said that she was. What did you say? You said you looked up and you were like, who's. Like, what is this lady doing?

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah, so there was like a massive line to get into the stadium. There was no seat, so there was a line coming all the way down, like, the outside of the court. So as we're walking, it's just super crowded because the line is going in front of where we enter. Because it wasn't like a huge court, it's like, smaller, but they had, like, big stands on the side. And so we had to like, I don't know about you, but we cut through, like, the line of people, and security is like, you know, excuse me, players coming, whatever. So at you guys were behind us. And as they open the gate, there's like this woman in front of me. And I see that I was Jenny's mom. And I was like, surely she doesn't think, like, she's going on the court or, like, what is going on? But he was like, opening it. And then she was like, kind of walking, like. And she stopped, like, right before the court. And then Like, I, like, kind of, like, touched her arm to, like, let her know. It was like me. I was like, oh, like, sorry, Liz. Or so I, like, said something. And then she looks back at me and she's like. Like, she just, like, did this really concerned look. And then that's when you, like, yelled at her. And then she just scooted to the side as we walked onto the court. And I was just locked eyes with Jenny, like, dying, laughing. It was so funny.

[Madison Keys]

Mom, what are you.

[Jess Pula]

What are you doing

[Madison Keys]

on the court?

[Jess Pula]

I was like, oh, my God, she's about to walk out on the court. She stepped one foot on the clay. I was like, no, no, no, this isn't happening.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

She's about to go play your match.

[Jessica Pegula]

I love that. Liz is also going to hear this as. As well, because she's an avid listener.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

We love Liz.

[Jessica Pegula]

Hear this big fan shout out, Liz. It was really funny.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, it was funny.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

I forgot about it. And then you texted, like, the next day or later that evening or something.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

It was. It's funny because you can see it on the clip, right? You can kind of see her striped

[Jess Pula]

shirt in the beginning of it.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

But you can't see her walking out and. Yeah. Because they were showing the long line to get into the court. And then I was like, oh, my gosh, there's my mom at the gate. Like, at the fence.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah. Someone posted a video on X to, like, show all the people trying to get in. And I was like, watching this. I was like, no way. They caught Liz, like, going on to the court, but they, like, kind of cut off.

[Madison Keys]

But you could see the whole setup

[Jessica Pegula]

of, like, the sequence of events. It was so funny. Oh, who do we. We think Jenny and Liz. I think you kind of threw me off with the fact that the racket.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, you're missing a racket.

[Jessica Pegula]

I think DEZ might win, actually.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

It's probably the first time I've ever lost a racket, though, with, like, not even misplacing it. I just. I lost it. Don't know where it went.

[Madison Keys]

But Liz's.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Liz's unforced error is pretty good.

[Madison Keys]

Like, she almost stuck.

[Jess Pula]

I think that's her.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And just.

[Jess Pula]

It's an honorary unforced error.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

On her behalf.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yes.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah. Okay, quick honesty check. Have you had a single vegetable today?

[Madison Keys]

Define vegetable.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Does it lettuce on a burger count?

[Jessica Pegula]

If that counts, I'm thriving.

[Jess Pula]

See, this is exactly why I started keeping Huel around some mornings. I fully plan to make a big breakfast and be a responsible adult. And then suddenly it's like 10am and I've had coffee and vibes and maybe

[Desiree Krafczyk]

half a granola bar, right?

[Madison Keys]

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[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, greens drinks usually feel like a punishment, exactly.

[Jessica Pegula]

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[Madison Keys]

Which is important because if I have to mix something, it's not happening.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

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[Jess Pula]

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[Jessica Pegula]

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[Madison Keys]

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[Jessica Pegula]

Moving into tennis headlines, we saw that IGA and Amanda parted ways with their coaches. Was anybody surprised?

[Madison Keys]

I mean, Eagle won Wimbledon last year? I guess it's a little hard for IGA because, like, the bar is now number one. So that's a. That's a tough bar to, like, live up to every single year. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, one Wimbledon. Amanda obviously had an unbelievable year. But I don't know, I just think sometimes. Sometimes the relationship just is done.

[Jess Pula]

Sometimes there's more to it than what we see as, you know, fans, competitors. We don't know what really goes on behind the scenes. And sometimes it might not be bad. It's just like. Sometimes, you know, it's just like, oh, okay, well, our time is up.

[Jessica Pegula]

How do you guys know when it's time to. To part ways? What do you think? Like, what's usually going through your head?

[Madison Keys]

I feel like.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Well, for me, I feel like if you've tried something and there's miscommunication, I think talking about it and saying, hey, like, these are things that I would like to be changed, maybe be on the same page. If that doesn't work out, things maybe get stale as well. Then I think it's time to part ways. But I obviously think giving a coach a second chance and trying to figure it out is the best way. For me, personally.

[Jessica Pegula]

For me, it feels like when you're searching for answers and there's not, like, they're not giving you different options or different answers or like, trying to do things in a different way to, like, get you to understand. That's when I feel like it's like, maybe this isn't working anymore. Because sometimes, I mean, it's good if you're open. I mean, you should be open and, like, communicating. But then if it's not. If you're not getting any feedback or they're not trying to do anything different, then I always feel like it gets kind of stale and redundant, and then you're just like, maybe it's time to. To part ways. We saw a clip of IGA working with Nadal Rafa on court with her a little bit, and then now she's apparently working with Francisco Roy, who we've seen kind of. I think he was last with Emma Radicano.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. Is it a couple months? How long was that? Was she with him?

[Jessica Pegula]

She was with him for a little more than that, I think. Was it okay, like, end of last year, beginning of this year, because I played. He was with her in Asia, so last year, so I feel like you can't get. I feel like that's perfect for ego, though. Like, saw the clip of them on the. On the clay, and I was like, this is bad for everybody.

[Madison Keys]

I know. I was like, oh, God.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I was like, no.

[Madison Keys]

The last thing we needed IGA to have on the clay was Rafa.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

What?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Pula]

Scary.

[Madison Keys]

No, that's not cool, though.

[Jessica Pegula]

I was like, this should be illegal.

[Jess Pula]

Why is this should not be allowed.

[Madison Keys]

Do you ever feel like there's a level of Rafa that is just Rafa, or do you ever think that sometimes he's, like, watching all of us and he's like, why are they just not better?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. Why are they missing?

[Jess Pula]

There'd be such a high standard.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I would be so nervous, like, hitting in front of him and, like, him. I mean, I'd be so excited, but I'd be like, oh, my God. I can't miss in front of Rafa.

[Madison Keys]

Like, I don't know.

[Jessica Pegula]

Like, I'm so sorry I didn't do it right.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, I'm so sorry. Like, how did you do that?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Like, whip forehand.

[Madison Keys]

Like, I mean, I feel like within five seconds of me on clay, he'd be like, why are you so close to the baseline? Like, move back. And I'd be like, but I can't run. Like, you run

[Jessica Pegula]

on the clip with iga. I saw it looked like. Did you guys see the clip where it looked like she missed a ball and then she, like, walked back, and then he was, like, talking, like, explaining something, and that's literally, like, what Maddie was saying is what I. Like, I would be so nervous. I was like, I'm so sorry I let you down. You would never miss that forehand. Yeah, I'm worthless. Like, just don't even help me. That was like, I literally looked like she missed a shot, and that was the first thing that came into my head. Do you guys feel like it's a weird dynamic that your coaches are telling you what to do, but that you're paying them?

[Madison Keys]

I mean, I think you kind of pay them to tell you what to do.

[Jessica Pegula]

Hopefully tell you the right stuff to do.

[Jess Pula]

Hopefully the right things. Yeah. It is very different compared to team sports. Obviously, the team pays for the coaches, the staff, and then individual sports, at least tennis and golf, you pay for the coaches, caddies.

[Madison Keys]

It's a weird dynamic.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

It's weird.

[Madison Keys]

It's like this weird power struggle dynamic. I guess it's not a power struggle, but it's weird because it's like you as the player are the boss, but you're paying someone to, like, tell you what to do. So you obviously have to trust what they're saying is right. So you're supposed to. You have to, like, buy into what they're saying, and you don't really want to. Not that you don't want to question them ever, but like, you don't want to always have resistance to, like, what they're saying. But then at the same time, you're in charge, but you're not.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

It's also.

[Madison Keys]

But you are.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You want it to be like a. Like a dialogue, you know, like you guys are both working together at something. It's not just them always telling you something, but obviously being on the same page. But yeah, it is weird to think you're paying them, but you are the boss. Like, you employ them.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, I don't feel that.

[Jessica Pegula]

Then maybe now you'll think about it.

[Jess Pula]

That's why I'm kind of speechless.

[Jessica Pegula]

Jenny's brain is like. The hamster was like going. She's like, wait, I'm in charge. Why am I paying them if I'm in charge?

[Madison Keys]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jessica Pegula]

So we're all here in Charleston. Well, Jenny was here. She were back home in Florida now, but we were all here for the credit. One Charleston open. And Charleston usually has one of the best player parties. So Jenny, do you want to recap the players party for us a little bit? How did you think it was?

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, it was amazing. The food was incredible. They had C there, like Maddie said. They did the Italian flag. They had a pillows of gold, which is a ricotta filled ravioli. I believe they had a pesto. I'm gonna butcher the name. So a pesto pasta. And then they had a red sauce pasta and it was unbelievable. And then they also had a seafood tower with crab, lobster sashimi. They had sushi. They had a bunch of hors d', oeuvres, appetizers, small plates, and then dessert. And then candy. Swedish. Swedish candy, dessert wall.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So, so psyched.

[Jess Pula]

It was.

[Madison Keys]

I didn't get there.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Jenny and I were fighting over the candy.

[Jessica Pegula]

It was also casino themed, so there was tables that I actually didn't end up playing, but I saw there was a lot of roulette, maybe blackjack, and some other games that they had open. So that was really cool.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And they had a live DJ or. Sorry, live. Band as well, which was great. And they're actually. They were really good. And then they also do. They partner with a couple, like, companies locally. And we got. There were some gifts that we did. We did with Rich Sport was partnered with that. You can make your own shirts there, which was really cool with the Charleston Open logo on there. And there was, like a engraved matchbooks. Matches. Yeah. The brass tins. Those are really cool.

[Madison Keys]

And the magician.

[Jessica Pegula]

And the magician.

[Jess Pula]

Yes. Yes.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jess Pula]

No.

[Madison Keys]

Unreal.

[Jess Pula]

It is probably one of the best player parties.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

They do a great job. They always do.

[Jess Pula]

And every year it gets better.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

Can't wait for next year.

[Jessica Pegula]

People want to go to that players party, you know?

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, people.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And everyone gets dressed up, and it's. It's really nice to see everyone, like, dressed up for the event and. Yeah, a lot of fun.

[Jessica Pegula]

The food is. The food was so good. It usually is really good, but it was very good. So I feel like, for the men, they have Houston, I feel like that's their Charleston because they rave about Houston and it being in the States. They also, I've heard, have a really great players party. So Houston is going on, I guess. Francis. TFO went to a Houston Rockets game but didn't tell Ben that he was going or something.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Were they supposed to go together?

[Jess Pula]

I think he told Ben that he wasn't going, but then he ended up.

[Jessica Pegula]

But he went. Yes.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So should we FaceTime him?

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

How did that happen?

[Madison Keys]

Gosh. Sidebar. I FaceTimed Francis the other day because I never. I never FaceTime him, but he's like, the biggest FaceTimer ever. And they asked me in press, who Was the last FaceTime that you had? And I had a missed call from Francis, so I was like, whatever. I'm just gonna FaceTime him and see if he'll answer. He's probably practicing. Didn't answer. And then it was like, three hours later, he was doing press, and he FaceTimed me. And he's like, you FaceTimed me? What's going on? Like, what are we talking about? He was like, I was so excited to see that you called me. Oh, my gosh.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Wait, so do we know if they were supposed to go together or.

[Jess Pula]

I don't know.

[Jessica Pegula]

I wish we would have FaceTimed him. And he found out maybe.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Is he playing?

[Madison Keys]

He might be playing right now.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. Hey. He's currently on court,

[Jessica Pegula]

so I guess he. He stood up Ben. We'll just. We'll have to ask Ben about it. We'll see if yeah, we'll see what happened. Maddie, do you want to talk about your other little story from. Was it Yesterday on TC Live after your match with Ali, risk that she may have crashed your car?

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, she did crash my car. But the best part is that she told everyone. I was like, it happened. I mean, it happened over 10 years ago, and

[Jessica Pegula]

we.

[Madison Keys]

She was. She was renting a room. Like, we were staying together. She was. We were staying in the same apartment. So she was in one room, I was in the other. And any weeks that, like, I was out of town, I would just let her use my car. Car, so she didn't have to rent one. And she called me in, like, a panic one day, so upset, and was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, Maddie, I crashed your car. I was like, what? She's like, yeah. I. I was at a red light, and I was reaching down to grab food in the passenger seat because I was gonna eat on the way there, and I thought the car in front of me had moved already, but it didn't, and. And I floored it while also reaching for food. She totaled my car. Granted, it was. It was my first car. And I told her. I was like, allie, it's okay. My car is so broken. Like, at that point, half of the windows didn't roll down. The back. The back door, like, the hinges had broken, so you had to, like, open the door and then, like, lift it so that it actually opened all the way. So I was like, this is literally, like, the. The fact that, you know, my front bumper is now a disaster is, like, the least of my issues. This car is a miracle. I get from point A to point B. But she felt so bad. She's like, what about your insurance deductible? But, like, yeah, I was sitting knowing Ally. Well, yeah, I was also, like, laughing so hard because I was like, of course food is involved, but so good. I was sitting at the desk yesterday, and she just, like, brought this story up, and I was like, you're totally telling on yourself. I was ready to take this story to the grave.

[Jess Pula]

I feel like you told no one about this. And he was like, wow, this is the first time hearing of this. This is incredible.

[Madison Keys]

I never told a single person. And she told everyone on tv.

[Jess Pula]

Maddie's a vault. We already know that.

[Madison Keys]

I take it to the grave.

[Jessica Pegula]

Picturing Ally. I didn't watch the clip yet, but, like, just with her personality and, like, just picturing that happening, like, I just wild.

[Jess Pula]

Okay, moving on to the next section of clay season. Are you thriving or Just surviving, Jess.

[Jessica Pegula]

I'm just surviving. Just surviving.

[Madison Keys]

Grinding. Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

Grinding and surviving. Wow. What a week. Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

What's the biggest adjustment you personally have to make when transitioning from hardcourts to clay, Jessica?

[Madison Keys]

Oh, tell us.

[Jessica Pegula]

You know, like, we talked about this kind of already and I was like, it's not that bad. And then, like, I don't really know what I've been doing the last, like, this week. Like, I feel really off kind of. I don't know why it's weird because I feel like on clay, at least for green clay, it's like everything feels the same, but it's not the same. So you don't feel like that. It's not like going to grass, where you feel like kind of like a drastic, somewhat drastic difference and like everything. So it's kind of a weird feeling. I think a lot of it is like, decision making and just. Yeah. Like, sometimes you don't get rewarded as much for a shot you hit that. Maybe you went on hard and I don't know, it's not so much the movement for me. It just feels more like the way that you're setting up the point sometimes isn't quite the same and then you're expecting the same result. It's not happening. And then it's like things start, just can unravel a little bit. I don't know.

[Madison Keys]

Like you said, I think a lot of it is you kind of have to set the point up a few more times to really get the reward that you want. Typically, you don't typically have just like the quick winners that you sometimes do on hardcore or on grass. I think for myself, for me, it's more trying to like, bulletproof my body as much as possible just because the balls are heavier. The points are usually longer. There's the sliding, so I have, like the bendiest ligaments and everything. I have, like the most hyper, mobile, hypermobile body. So I feel like I have to just add in a lot more stability. And my warmup takes basically twice as long during clay court season.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

For me, personally, I think the gym part of it is the biggest transition for me and like Maddie said, just keeping myself healthy, like you said, the balls are way heavier, I think. And sometimes, like during clay season, my shoulder tends to get more use in that sense and that tries. That tends to break down. So, yeah, gym for me is a big thing. And also it's going to be longer points on the clay as opposed to the hard court.

[Jess Pula]

For me, just after my one match, I would say for me, I Tend to just kind of creep further and further behind the baseline. And I. Even though clay you have more time, I still think, like, court position is still a really important thing because getting drop shotted on is also a lot more common than on hardcourt. So being able to, I guess, recognize and move forward is something, you know, there's a lot more drop shots that are hitting on the clay a little bit more. Different types of bounces, unexpected bounces. So, yeah, I'd say that. Does clay feel more physically draining or just different in terms of movement?

[Madison Keys]

I think it can actually be physically more draining, mostly just because points are usually longer. Matches sometimes are a bit longer, and then you're not on a stable surface and you're sliding. So I think the body just takes a little bit. Takes a little bit more of a hit. And then also the balls typically are heavier, so you're. And you're hitting above your head more. So, yeah, the body gets a little beat up during clay court season.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah, more physically draining.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

My adductors get the most sore, I think. And I don't even slide.

[Jessica Pegula]

Does today, watching Maddie was like, you guys look so cool when you slide like that. You don't slide on clay. And she's like, well, I like slide after I hit the ball. And I was like, so you're just sliding off the court?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I'm just like, see ya.

[Madison Keys]

My partner's got it. Yeah, you got it, partner point.

[Jessica Pegula]

It just slides away. I was like, but you like clay? And she's like, yeah, you don't. How do you like clay but you don't slide. But it was just so funny.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, the first week especially. I also feel like it's hard to slide. These. These courts are very, like, it's. They're heavy. And I. I mean, you guys are making it look so easy, but for me, I'm just like, like stuttering on the clay if I want to slide. So, yeah, I just don't even attempt.

[Jess Pula]

Did you ever learn how to slide or are you just every year?

[Jessica Pegula]

Just

[Desiree Krafczyk]

the one. I had a lesson when I was like 12 in Poland. I was with my dad in the summer in Poland, and he made. He paid for a private lesson on the red clay for me to learn how to slide because I was playing some tournaments there. Can't tell you. Like, I just don't know. I don't have it, but I'll eventually get it. Maybe by the French Open.

[Madison Keys]

I'll have it. But.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah, at my old academy, they used to make us just run and fall, so we Wouldn't be afraid to fall.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Maybe I should just do that tomorrow.

[Madison Keys]

I don't play tomorrow.

[Jessica Pegula]

I was like a kid. So, like, falling was kind of fun, like, at that point too. So we would just run and we would have to, like, slide on, like, our butts or something just to get used to. Wow. Not being afraid. So, yeah, this is out there, like, running.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I'm going to be out there on court B, grinding. Hey, guys, don't worry about me. Okay, let's get into the, I think Maddie's favorite part of today's episode, Reality TV corner. Maddie, let's start with you. Please update us and everyone on this summer house drama because there's just so many moving parts and we need, like a map of everything. And you are the expert, so do tell.

[Madison Keys]

Kind of like Jess said the other day, she was like, maddie with sports is how she is with reality tv. And the way Jess is with sports is how I am with reality tv. I'm so locked. Has anyone, like, does anyone even know Summer house at all?

[Jess Pula]

Well, no.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

We did meet. Didn't we meet someone from Southern Charmed. Oh, shoot.

[Jessica Pegula]

Was it Hannah?

[Madison Keys]

My bad. So Summer house. Summer house is Paige and Hannah Burner.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yes. I knew that. Woo.

[Madison Keys]

Yes. Okay, so all of the drama for everyone who's seeing it on social media is Paige, Amanda and Sierra are all, like the best of friends. They like to lay in bed together and chat and it's great. Amanda is married to Kyle. Sierra and west are dating. They're on and off. They kind of have feelings for each other. Sierra is like, into him, but west is kind of an F boy, but, like, kind of like at this point, like a lovable fboy. Anyways, we fast forward and in January, Kyle and Amanda post a joint story on socials that they're getting divorced. And then a couple days ago, it was like, rumored that west and Amanda are now hooking up. So Amanda, one of best friends of Cira, hooking up with ex boyfriend of Sierra. And so rumors are swirling. Whatever. Amanda and west do the same weird joint story post on socials, basically confirming that they are in fact together. Sierra is, like, heartbroken. There's a picture of her in the streets, like, crying in New York. In the streets. Genuinely, literally outside of an Hermes, which is like kind of a flexible, but,

[Desiree Krafczyk]

you know, retail therapy.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. But then like, sidebar. Amanda's ex husband is now trying to become a dj and like, everyone's like, well, this is going to like, set his career off. He's going to be like the Best DJ in DJ history. I don't know. Yeah, so there's. There's, like, a lot of drama. And also, it's like, most people didn't really like Kyle, and now, like, all of the heat is off of Kyle, and now everyone is, like, anti west and Amanda, and it's. It's pretty crazy.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay.

[Jess Pula]

Wow.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That. That's wild. And the fact that you, like, know all that and remember that it's like a web. But. Okay, what's the girl code? And that should be able to date your best friend's ex.

[Madison Keys]

No.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And, like, yeah, I'm just asking thoughts.

[Jessica Pegula]

I mean, you can, but you're no longer best friends.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, I hate my best friends more than they hate their exes.

[Jess Pula]

Ties are cut. Yeah. Yeah. True facts. I'd be like, hey, I don't even remember this.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. Jenny would be like, hey. And I'd be like, he's dead to us. Don't tell him.

[Jess Pula]

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I take it back.

[Jessica Pegula]

My mind is blown.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. And, like, also on top of all of it is, like, Amanda's, like, blowing up her friendship, and west is apparently hooking up with other girls.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Wow, this is quite the show.

[Madison Keys]

And also, like, Hannah used to be a part of Summer House, and rumor is, like, Amanda and Hannah had some beef, and so I feel like we need Hannah to give us the full scoop.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, we need Hannah. Hannah, come on this show.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wow.

[Jess Pula]

Give us the deets.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay, well, I think now I'm interested. Yeah. Well, I think some of us don't watch Summer House drama, but has anyone watched. Everyone's been watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives except Jess.

[Madison Keys]

Right.

[Jessica Pegula]

I watched. How many seasons are there? 3.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I think there's three.

[Jessica Pegula]

I think I've watched two seasons. I haven't watched the most recent one, but I've caught up. I knew she was on the Bachelorette, and then I know that, like, the drama with the boyfriend, all that. The baby daddy.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Do you guys have a take on what's happening with Taylor, Frankie, Paul? Like, that she got her season for the Bachelorette canceled. Do you think that should have aired,

[Jess Pula]

or

[Desiree Krafczyk]

is it best that it got canceled? Because obviously, for tv, I'm sure people want that, but it just seemed like there was a lot going on with her and Dakota and just all the video evidence and stuff. But anybody else?

[Jessica Pegula]

I mean, it was probably for the best. I think that it got canceled.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, I think it should have gotten canceled. But I would also like the same energy in sports where it's like, we have these videos of these dudes doing terrible things. Like, if we could have them suspended or something and, like, actually have some repercussions, that would be cool.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. And not just fine or.

[Jessica Pegula]

Well, I also feel like a. Like, part of it is that how does it ever. It's like, we only knew because the video was leaked. Right. And this was, like, years ago.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, three.

[Jessica Pegula]

A year ago.

[Jess Pula]

Three.

[Jessica Pegula]

So it was like, how did it, like, get that far?

[Madison Keys]

We know how.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And some people thought it was Dakota that said that had released it or something. Like.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah, it's just like always how, yeah, these things happen. And then it's like, these things happened years ago. It's like, okay. But, like, obviously we were trying to hide it, so, like, that makes it even worse. I feel like when stuff like that comes out.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Well, we actually met a couple people from Southern Charm a couple nights. When was it? A few nights ago.

[Jessica Pegula]

A few nights ago? Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I can't remember names, but I met

[Madison Keys]

them and they were nice. Sally and Vanita and Vanita's mom and

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Vanita's mom, who are big fans of Jess and Maddie.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yes. She was so nice.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Is there a reality TV star that you'd love to come to your match and watch you guys and cheer you guys on?

[Jess Pula]

The only reality TV I'd say that I was locked and glued to was season six of Love is Blind usa. And it just so happened that that was the best season.

[Madison Keys]

I also got you pretty hooked on Vanderpump when the Sandoval Scandal.

[Jess Pula]

Wait, what did I say? Wait, I meant, did I say Love is Blind?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, no, Season six.

[Madison Keys]

Okay, see, I'm not. You met Vanderpump Rule six.

[Jess Pula]

No, I meant. Oh, that too. Sandoval Scandival. No season. No, no, no. See, the only season that show that I was locked to on reality TV was season six, Love island usa, with Leah, Miguel, Rob. Actually, this is funny. I was in Bolle in Orlando, like, two months ago, and Keddie walked in and I was like, if you watch the show and know the drama, you

[Jessica Pegula]

would also say, I truly have no idea what any of you are talking about.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I want Lisa Vanderpump to come to my match.

[Jessica Pegula]

I never watched Vanderpump. I never watched, like, the O.C. yeah, I never watched literally any of the Housewives. I mean, like, one offs. I mean, I think the only reality TV I actually kind of watched sometimes, just because everyone watched it was Keeping up with the Kardashians. So I know some of those, like, iconic episodes and Scenes and moments and then like maybe two seasons of Secret Lives literally, because you guys watched it and I just like in Europe and I was like, I guess I'll watch. But like, oh, it stresses me out. I can't watch it. I start questioning myself.

[Madison Keys]

I love it so much. My truly, one of my favorite things about the grass season is. Is Love Island UK version because it's on six nights a week.

[Jessica Pegula]

Jeez.

[Jess Pula]

Yes.

[Madison Keys]

So good.

[Jess Pula]

It's so good.

[Madison Keys]

It's so good.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I don't think I've watched any of it except for the Montoya or what was it?

[Jessica Pegula]

Is that his name?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Have you guys heard about this thing?

[Madison Keys]

Montoya?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That's all I know about it. Like, I have.

[Madison Keys]

Like, that was the only thing.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

And I'm like, what is trending on ex right now? And it was just crazy. But yeah, I agree with Jess. This can sometimes be really stressful when they're just like arguing and like non stop. I like, have to like fast forward sometimes.

[Madison Keys]

But no, I will say peaceful. When women are screaming at each other, do we unback this?

[Jessica Pegula]

Like, I literally start questioning myself. Like, when they do, like really crappy things, I'm like, did I, did I do that one time? No, I didn't do. That's like horrible. Like, what is going on? And I'm just like, but you know what?

[Madison Keys]

I think reality TV teaches one very important life lesson, and that is that real apologies go very far in life. Because some of these people have done some crazy things. And if they come in and they own it and there's accountability and they apologize, all is well and we all accept them back into our hearts and we're like, maybe they're not so bad.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

What's your top three favorite reality shows, Maddie?

[Madison Keys]

I can't do that.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay, top four. You have to. I'll give you my top three. Well, yeah.

[Madison Keys]

Real Housewives of Salt Lake, obviously number one forever. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Love that old Real Housewives of New Jersey, tbt, the Table Flip Iconic and Love Island UK version.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I'm a Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Real Housewives of Orange County, Keeping up the Kardashians and Vanderpump Rules. Love those. Watched those religiously in college. It was like my go to.

[Madison Keys]

One of my greatest feats in life was getting Jenny hooked enough on Vanderpump that she says, Sandoval Scandal, Scandival.

[Jess Pula]

That was the only season I watched after my knee surgery. I was in bed and I watched season 10. I think it was crazy. That's the only Season I watched from. What's the show? Vanderpump Rules.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Clearly we were passionate about the real the reality TV here.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah. You can't even name four house hunters.

[Jessica Pegula]

Are you for like three? I'm like, that's.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That's what?

[Jessica Pegula]

House hunters.

[Madison Keys]

Love it or list it. I want seven bedrooms and six bathrooms. My price range is $350,000.

[Jess Pula]

Okay, let's do it.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, my God. Supermarket sweep. Supermarket sweep. Wow.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

You tell yourself no one wants your college era band tees, but on Depop, people are searching for exactly what you've got.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You once paid a small fortune for

[Madison Keys]

them at merch stands. Now a teenager who calls them vintage

[Desiree Krafczyk]

will offer that same small fortune back.

[Madison Keys]

Sell them easily on Depop. Just snap a few photos and we'll

[Desiree Krafczyk]

take care of the rest.

[Madison Keys]

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[Madison Keys]

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[Madison Keys]

Given all of the craziness in reality TV news, we want to play a quick little game in what we would do in certain social scenarios and how we would handle them. Would we go full reality TV show melt or would we be like Jess and be like, I don't care. Your friend posts a photo of you that you look terrible in.

[Jess Pula]

That's like 99% of the photos of me.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So I would care, but I'm not going to be in full melt Yeah, I don't care.

[Madison Keys]

You realize you weren't invited to something that everyone else was invited to. Do you say something or do you

[Desiree Krafczyk]

let it go, Jenny?

[Madison Keys]

I think.

[Jess Pula]

Oh,

[Jessica Pegula]

do you tell.

[Jess Pula]

I think I let it go, but I joke about it where I'm actually not joking.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, so you're like, kind of have fomo?

[Jess Pula]

No, I have fomo, but I. I have FOMO because I don't want to miss out on the group setting. But, like, I don't care.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

But you bring it up.

[Jess Pula]

If something fun happens, then I'll be like, dang. But no, I don't care.

[Madison Keys]

I would probably bring it up, but more so bring it up just to make someone feel awkward, because I kind

[Jess Pula]

of like doing that to be petty.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

I would make a joke about it, but I wouldn't really care. It's kind of like one less thing I'd have to, like, do. So, like, I don't hate, like, not being invited to something.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. Sometimes you're like, yes, thank God I don't have to go.

[Jess Pula]

But if it was you guys and you guys, like, went somewhere and you didn't invite me, I'd be like, ugh, fomo.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Like, when I went to Encanto and you're like, oh, thanks for the invite. And I said, I didn't invite anyone.

[Jessica Pegula]

Sorry. I love when you say that. When you say, I didn't invite anybody, that's like the best.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

Way to just.

[Madison Keys]

Okay, your friend's exact starts dming you.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

What do you do you tell your friend?

[Jessica Pegula]

Well, I feel like I would tell my friend.

[Jess Pula]

I would tell my friend asap, but

[Desiree Krafczyk]

what if she's like, doesn't want to hear it? Like, I would feel like, no, maybe I just don't say it and I just delete it. Or are you going behind your friend's back saying, like, well, why didn't you tell me that he messaged you?

[Jessica Pegula]

I think I would definitely say something.

[Madison Keys]

I think I would respond and just be like, surely you have the wrong person. And then block.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I would definitely say something or not

[Jess Pula]

respond, no, I don't.

[Jessica Pegula]

And then tell a friend.

[Jess Pula]

I would screenshot and FaceTime and send while I'm FaceTiming and say, do we let this play out? Or,

[Madison Keys]

Okay, do you like your friend's ex photos on socials? The moment my friends have told me that that they've broken up with people immediately unfollowed.

[Jessica Pegula]

Like, what if you were friends with someone first and then your friend dated them and then done it, they broke up.

[Madison Keys]

It Depends on how they break up.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. So if it's a cordial breakup, I feel like. And they're like, hey, it's okay. You can still be friends with them, Whatever. We're fine then.

[Jessica Pegula]

Maybe.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

But, like, I'm not gonna actively just, like, I may just, like, bypass it,

[Jess Pula]

but I don't think I've ever been in that situation. So. Don't break up with your significant others, guys.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Well, you do have more than us friends.

[Madison Keys]

I'm very picky with my likes.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, I have started getting more picky with my likes. And I've also, yeah, just deleted a lot of people who I don't really talk to on my followings.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah, I've definitely done a cleanup, like, of people that I literally just don't talk. Talk to at all. And I'm like, why? And I have gotten pickier with my likes as I've gotten older. Okay, we are going to play two truths and a lie or sorry, we did it in the bonus episode, I think. And we are going to reveal ours. Jenny, would you like to repeat what yours were and then reveal what your lie was?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Or do we want to guess?

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, Would you guys like to guess which one is my lie?

[Madison Keys]

I think I know.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay, go for it, Jenny.

[Jess Pula]

Okay. I got my ears pierced at the age of 27. I passed my driver's test on the first try. I once emailed my passport to a bouncer to get into a club. Which one is my lie?

[Madison Keys]

I think you lied about passing your driver's test on the first try.

[Jess Pula]

Anyone else?

[Jessica Pegula]

I think it's your ears pierced was a lie.

[Jess Pula]

Dez.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I think it's the last one you want to a bouncer.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wow. Maddie.

[Jess Pula]

Maddie's the winner.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wow.

[Jess Pula]

I passed my driver's test on the first try. I did not. I had to take it twice.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yikes. Explains all the car stories.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, but the crazy thing is that we're glossing over the fact that she emailed a bouncer.

[Jessica Pegula]

What? Can we hear the story that was for sure true?

[Jess Pula]

So I was in London, and I think, no. Is it in the village at Wimbledon? Village out. And ended up going downtown, like Chelsea or something. Going to a club with a couple other people. And I didn't have any form of ID on me. And I was like, oh, how am I going to get into this club? And we're outside the club, and then the bouncer's like, yeah, just. You can just email me your passport. And I had a photo of my passport in my phone.

[Madison Keys]

So I'm like, okay.

[Jess Pula]

Great. And yeah, just emailed my passport to the bouncer and then got into the club. So end of that.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wait, were you slightly worried that, like, this random person has, like, your identity, a copy of your passport?

[Jess Pula]

Not until right this second.

[Jessica Pegula]

Like, that. You stole. Someone stole your identity and is running around. This is Jennifer Brady.

[Madison Keys]

There's British Jennifer Brady.

[Jess Pula]

No, I never thought about it.

[Jessica Pegula]

All right, Maddie, you want to do yours?

[Madison Keys]

Okay. Mine were. I tried to be vegan. My favorite food is tacos, and I dropped out of college after one day.

[Jess Pula]

Tried to be vegan.

[Jessica Pegula]

Agreed. Sorry.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yes. Wait, you went to college trying to be vegan?

[Madison Keys]

Yeah. That's the lie.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah. Yeah, I don't see that.

[Jess Pula]

Maddie, you have to tell your drop down.

[Madison Keys]

Call it for one day.

[Jess Pula]

I was just trying when you said that. Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

So years ago, got. I was like, I should go to school. I don't know why, but was like all gung ho about it. Got like an iPad with my pencil and was like, I'm gonna take notes the whole thing. And signed up for the classes. Like, literally convinced Bjorn to also do it. And I was like, we're bettering ourselves. We should do this. It's gonna be amazing. And I took like, it was like the summer classes, so it was a super condensed but, like, double the workload, essentially. English class as my first class back in, like, I don't know, eight years from the time that I graduated high school or something. And it was in the clay season. And I mean, I was homeschooled from fifth grade on. So in my head I was like, oh, it's gonna be like the same as being homeschooled. Like, you can kind of like work at your own pace as long as you get it done. And yeah, was in Rome. Literally opened it up, looked at the syllabus, and there was like an eight page essay due, like the first Tuesday of Roland Garros. And I was like, that's not gonna happen, and was like, I would like to draw this class. Thank you.

[Jess Pula]

So good.

[Madison Keys]

Quit. Never went back.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

So good. Well, I think I have another unforced error for today. So I did one truth, two lies.

[Jess Pula]

Oh, my God.

[Jessica Pegula]

I know what the truth was.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I know. That's why I'm like, wait, what?

[Madison Keys]

When you were saying that, I was like, if one of those is real, like, I feel like. I feel like two of these things sound insane.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay, well, I'm gonna say it out loud anyways, so think of it opposite. Think of it backwards. I was a child actress. I was a tournament Director at an event. I've won 18 WTA titles. Which one is true?

[Jess Pula]

I was a child actress.

[Madison Keys]

When you were saying them, I was like, I know how many titles she's won and I know she was child actress. What tournament was she a tournament director at? Did I miss that?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I texted Harris and I was like, oh, my God, I've done it wrong. And she's like, no, no, it's going to be fine. This will be another unforced hair.

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[Desiree Krafczyk]

I was, like, panicking. But yes, I. My truth was, I was a child actress. I did 10 commercials, And I starred in Lilo and Stitch before it became a animated series. And then they don't have enough funds for that, so I had to cut it. And then I had to pick between acting and tennis.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wait, does. I think I did the same thing?

[Jess Pula]

Oh, my God.

[Jessica Pegula]

I was like, reading it and I

[Desiree Krafczyk]

was like,

[Madison Keys]

what is happening?

[Jessica Pegula]

I actually did. And you know what? I did it right the first. First time, and I've effed it up.

[Madison Keys]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Pula]

All right.

[Madison Keys]

Literally, the game is two truths and a lie.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yes. Okay.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wrong.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I picked tennis overacting, but here we are. And Jess, go ahead, share your one truth and two lies. Wait, I guess we had our own game going on.

[Jessica Pegula]

Wait, no, I'm looking at. Wait. Okay, wait, I need to reread mine.

[Madison Keys]

I'm like, guys, I'm tired.

[Jessica Pegula]

Okay. My dad's side of the family is actually Slovakian and Polish. I never won a singles ITF title. I started playing tennis originally left handed. What's the name of this game? Two truths and a lie.

[Madison Keys]

Yes.

[Jess Pula]

Or two out of.

[Jessica Pegula]

Okay, no, wait. I did it right. I did it right. I did it right. I almost did it wrong. And I had to redo it. And I wasn't looking at the notes and I was looking at my old one. Okay. I actually did do it right. Okay. Does anyone know my. My lie?

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Originally left handed.

[Jess Pula]

Same.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, same.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You're definitely Polish. Yes. Oh, my God, we're Polskas.

[Jessica Pegula]

I thought maybe someone would buy it.

[Madison Keys]

When you won dc, that was the first tournament you.

[Jessica Pegula]

I never won a single ITF title.

[Jess Pula]

It's a wild ITF title.

[Jessica Pegula]

ITF title. I never won a singles ITF title. I lost in, like, five finals.

[Jess Pula]

Oh, so this is your challenger.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

This is your one lie.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

No, it's true.

[Madison Keys]

The lie that.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, it's true.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jessica Pegula]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Pula]

Okay, we're moving on to the next section.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, well, we're going to move on to wow, I was chaotic. To the who am I? Section, the Alex Eallis clues last week were, she's a lefty, she has dogs named after her, and she has multiple grand slam trophies, mostly for mixed doubles. Can anyone guess who that is?

[Jessica Pegula]

It does.

[Jess Pula]

It does. You should have said. You should have read it as, like, I am a lefty.

[Jessica Pegula]

I am.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Oh, I was gonna say she. Well, regardless, it is me.

[Madison Keys]

And I was dying when Alex was like, has won multiple grand slam champs.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I was like, you need to specify ladies.

[Jess Pula]

Mostly big stubbles

[Jessica Pegula]

and.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Okay, Jess, do you want to give your clues?

[Jessica Pegula]

Yes. So my clues for who am I? Are that. She. I guess I'll say she. She has won a junior U.S. open title, singles title. She is known for her water bottle, and she once said she listened to Mozart before a match because Rafa did.

[Jess Pula]

Okay, let's move on to some fan questions. Our first question from Caroline. Fun fact. She actually handmade a gift for each of us and wrote out her question. So thank you for that. This was the question that she wrote out for Desiree. Her question was, what is a pet peeve of yours that the crowd does? I would like to say that the pet peeve is when you miss an easy shot and the crowd goes, aw.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

It's so funny, though, because when I was watching Maddie and Jess today, I caught myself doing that, but I was like, oh, they don't like that. Like, you don't want to be that person. But it's not loud enough to be

[Jess Pula]

like, yeah, if the whole crowd does it. Like, you miss a volley, you're on top of the net, and you miss it in the net, and then the whole crowd goes, oh. And you're like, yeah, yeah, it sucks.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, the best when you have, like, you're watching it on tv, and they, like, go to, like, one person's reaction in the crowd, and they slow mo. And they're like,

[Jess Pula]

no. Sometimes I literally like him. Like, you do it like you try to play. I get so heated sometimes, it fires me up.

[Madison Keys]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Pula]

No, I literally do say it while the crowd is still doing that.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

But a pet peeve of mine, I think, is when people who don't know tennis and they just clap in between first and second serves, and they're just like, that person won the point. That, for me, is annoying, but I think it depends if it's, like, in a heated situation. But that's my biggest pet peeve.

[Madison Keys]

I don't like the, like, passive aggressive coaching from the crowd.

[Jess Pula]

Oh, my God.

[Madison Keys]

That's a good one.

[Jessica Pegula]

That's a good.

[Madison Keys]

I don't like that.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

That's a good one.

[Madison Keys]

You have to give us an example, obviously.

[Jess Pula]

Let's get a first serve here.

[Madison Keys]

Oh, my gosh. You have to stay in that rally.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

You gotta stay positive.

[Jessica Pegula]

I don't really know if I have any, like, major ones. I mean, those are all good ones that you guys already said.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

What about, like, when people go like, oh, come on, Jesse, right here. Like, they really get behind it and, like, say it and you're just like, what?

[Jess Pula]

I don't like that. Know you.

[Madison Keys]

No.

[Jessica Pegula]

Yeah. Sometimes the tone. Or just, like, when people yell right before you're about to serve and you're just like, seriously, like. Like, just keep it for, like, the next point. Like, earlier. Say it earlier. Just don't. Like, you're bouncing and you're bouncing, and then they just go deep, like, let out a. Like, come on, like. And then it's usually, like, in there. It's the. For the opponent, and you're just like, okay, now I gotta restart the whole thing. I don't know, maybe that. But they're all pretty bad.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Good answers.

[Jess Pula]

Great question. Thank you, Caroline. Next question from Sam. Does being in the locker room get tense, for example, if you see your opponent that you will play the next round in there? No. It's just so common.

[Jessica Pegula]

We're so used to it.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah, we're so used to it.

[Jessica Pegula]

Weird. But you're so used to it.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah, it's not really, I think, if

[Desiree Krafczyk]

any showering right next to them.

[Madison Keys]

Yeah.

[Jess Pula]

Yeah.

[Madison Keys]

If you lose and you're like, in the same locker room, I feel like sometimes you like. Or like, if you just played each other, it's like you try to give each other space, but there's no space to give. Yeah, you just, like, don't make eye contact. If it was like, a really tough match. I guess. I don't know.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

I feel like sometimes in the locker room, people know, like, oh, that person had lost. So when you come to the locker and. And you've lost, it's kind of quiet and it's just like, everyone's, like, trying to, like, keep to themselves and just. I don't know if anyone else has had that experience, but I feel that way. And you're kind of like, oh, I'm just going to let them be, you know?

[Jess Pula]

But yeah, like, sometimes you try to get a space.

[Desiree Krafczyk]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Jessica Pegula]

Be aware.

[Jess Pula]

All right, well, thanks, everyone, for your fan questions this week. Please leave us a rating and review. It helps people find out about the podcast and don't forget to watch us on the players box YouTube page and send us fan questions on Instagram or to our email at the players box [e-mail]. thanks everyone and see everyone next week.

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