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Ben Mankiewicz
Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts. In the spring of 1961, Joe Mankiewicz was furiously writing a new screenplay for Cleopatra. But he had a problem. His cast, specifically, his leading men. Cleopatra had two great loves in her life. Julius Caesar. Hail Caesar. And Mark Antony. Do you trust this Mark Antony? Originally, she wanted to rule the world with Caesar. After he was assassinated on the Ides of March, Cleopatra switched to Mark Antony. Actors for the two roles had already been cast by the time Joe took over production. Mark Antony was being played by an Irish actor named Stephen Boyd. It's a Roman world. If you want to live in it, you must become part of it. Boyd had just been in Ben Hur, a hugely popular biblical epic from 1959. But when writing Mark Antony, Joe had a specific voice in mind. And it wasn't Stephen Boyd's. It was another actor, a Welsh actor named Richard Burton. What a piece of work is a man. Burton came blazing onto the London theatrical scene in the early 1950s. How infinite in faculty, inform in moving, how express and admirable movement he made Shakespeare sexy. Patrick Humphries wrote a book about Cleopatra. He was pulling in young people to the classic Shakespeare plays. He was almost like this sort of, you know, James Dean figure, incredibly charismatic. Richard Burton had a pockmarked face, dark, messy hair and deep greenish blue eyes. He was famous for his drinking and for sleeping with his leading ladies. But really, it was his voice that mesmerized people. Here's Richard in a BBC interview. This extraordinary voice of yours, would you say that in fact it's a kind of Welsh voice? Is there such a thing? Oh, yes. It's the deep, dark answer. From the valleys to everybody. I can't help. I can't help the voice. It's far to me and I didn't cultivate or anything. It was given to me and I'm very lucky to possess it. I suppose there's a great lyricism to the Welsh. It was his Welshness that gave him that depth to his speaking voice and his oratory, to be or not to be that is the question. Richard grew up poor. His father was a coal miner, his mother a barmaid. They had 13 children together. Richard's mother died when he was just 2. As a child, Richard memorized the Bible. In his teenage years, he turned that talent to Shakespeare, then moved on to London to perform at the Old Vic. Winston Churchill was one of his biggest fans. Richard Burton signed with 20th Century Fox in 1952. He told the BBC why he liked making films. I do it because I rather like being famous. I rather like being given the best seat in the plane, best seat in the restaurant. The character of Mark Antony needed to be sexy, rebellious, a hard drinker. One of these days, you may want to come back. I want to be there that day. I want to stand up in your tears and splash about in them. In Joe's mind, Richard was born to play the part. So Joe asked Spiros Skuros to hire him. Skuros was the president of 20th Century Fox. His response was unequivocal. No. They'd already paid Stephen Boyd, but Joe wouldn't let up. He wanted Richard and no one else. So Skuros negotiated. He said yes to casting Richard Burton, but made his own demand. Shooting would begin on September 18, which was four months away. On a production this big, that wasn't nearly enough time to get everything ready. Joe hadn't cast Julius Caesar yet. Elizabeth Taylor was still recuperating in Los Angeles. And the script? Not even close. As my Uncle Joe put it, I was down in the holes of this ship shoveling coal like a son of a bitch. And I said to them, gentlemen, let me finish the script. I'm your host, Ben Mankiewicz. You're listening to season six of the Plot Thickens, a podcast from Turner Classic Movies. Each season we bring you an in depth story about the movies and the people who make them. This season, Cleopatra. How an epic production pushed my uncle to his breaking point. This is episode three. The girl is on salary. London to New York, New York to Athens. Athens to Cairo. Cairo to Rome. Rome to London. London to New York, New York to LA. Joe spent the spring of 1961 crisscrossing the globe. All that travel was to scout new locations. Filming in London made no sense. This was the perfect moment to reset. Joe finally made up his mind. He wanted to film in Italy because it's warmer, basically, and because it's cheaper to shoot in Rome. This is film historian Scott Iman. Roman technicians didn't get as much money. It's sunnier, the food's better. There's all sorts of reason to shoot in Rome and the wine is also better. Spiros Skuros thought Joe was nuts. Skuros wanted to shoot in Los Angeles. Fox had just blown $5 million in London on Cleopatra version 1.0. Joe told him, let's do it at Chinacita. Chinacita Film STUDIOS Built In Rome in 1937, Chinacita was Italy's largest studio, founded by Benito Mussolini. Joe's main selling point was that Chinichita was cheap, Italian crews were non union and they had a six day work week. So Skuros again reluctantly agreed. To Italy, Chinichita might have been a cheap place to make a movie. But Fox spent a lot of money that summer. Richard Burton's paycheck was $250,000, plus 50 grand to buy him out of his contract on Broadway, where he was playing King Arthur in Camelot. Other expenses came as a surprise. For example, they wanted to build the city of Alexandria on the shores of Anzio, 40 miles south of Chinichetta. Anzio has beautiful beaches, but it's best known as the site of a bloody battle in 1944 during the Allied invasion of Italy. The Allies stormed the beaches in World War II and left behind all these live landmines. My cousin Nick Davis says at first nobody on the production knew about these active landmines. When the production crew realizes this, they have to, you know, blow up all these landmines and lose however many days or weeks of shooting and build an entirely new replica of Alexandria somewhere else. Another unanticipated expense. Elizabeth Taylor's doctor from Los Angeles. Fox ponied up $25,000 for for him to live in Rome for several weeks. And suddenly that came. The date when Elizabeth Taylor was supposed to go on salary. The Fox execs were hounding Joe finish the script and get filming by September 18th. But Joe wasn't having it. He realized he couldn't possibly finish the script by the 18th with everything he had on his plate. They said, can't you make the script shorter? I said, I can't make a script shorter that I haven't finished yet. I don't have time to write a shorter script. But they did not let up. Filming needed to start on the 18th of September. Turns out it wasn't just some random date. It was the day Elizabeth Taylor began working. The girl is on salary. You've got to start. If shooting didn't start by the 18th, Fox stood to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars a week on Elizabeth alone. So Joe Heard this a lot. The Girl is on sale. You gotta start. Of course, it's ridiculous that the men running 20th Century Fox would refer to Elizabeth Taylor as the Girl. She was the top paid actress in the world, an Oscar winner, a major box office draw, more powerful in many ways than any of them. But to the suits, she was still the girl. The girl who everything revolved around, including the start date. John De Cure came to Rome to rebuild the ancient temples and statues on the London shoot. These sets were massive, but my Uncle Joe wanted them even bigger this time. He told De Cure to make the Roman Forum three times the size of the actual Roman Forum. It was mind boggling and breathtaking even to be standing in these sets. That's Martin Landau on the DVD commentary. He played Rufio, a Roman general. When you got up close to anything, the detail in even the statuary was quite exquisite. You look at the staircase, I mean, the width of it and the kind of finishing and the stones of the floor, and every scene is detailed so carefully and so elegantly, it's astonishing. Patrick Humphries said the costs piled up. There were 30 period buildings painstakingly erected, 26,000 costumes. There was $100,000 spent on paper cups. $100,000 on paper cups. They cost so much that eventually someone posted a sign in the studio commissary. In the interests of economy, it read, we would encourage you to share your paper cups. I haven't even gotten to the props. Crowns, scepters, daggers, everything. Custom made goblets were forged out of fiberglass, then laced with gold leaf and faux gemstones. But what really blows my mind are the wicks. They spent thousands and thousands of dollars on wigs for the Roman centurions. But you couldn't see the wigs because they were all wearing helmets. It was just madness. September 1st rolled around. The wigs and the props and the sets weren't finished. September 8th, still not done. Same with September 15th. September 18th finally came, but the sets weren't up to Joe's standards. Spiros Skouros gave him one more week. That's it. He told Joe, time's up. You roll film on the 25th. They said to me, you got to start Monday because we started paying the government. I said, we are not ready. You see, when you start a film, when you start a big production like that, it's like starting an invasion of France. You better have the goddamn tanks ready. My Uncle Joe had his Cleopatra and his Mark Antony, but what about Caesar? Peter Finch, a highly respected English actor, was originally cast as Caesar, but Finch got sick of all the waiting around and left the production. Walter Wanger, the producer, suggested a replacement. Joe agreed. The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plane. Rex Harrison was enjoying a career revival after creating the role of Professor Henry Higgins in My Fair Lady. He played it first on Broadway, then on London's West End. Rex had a long face with beady eyes and like Richard Burton, one of the all time great voices. Every night before you get into bed where you used to say your prayers, I want you to say, the reign in Spain stays mainly in the plane. 50 times. Rex Harrison was a consummate actor. Very used to cinema for many years, delivered some great performances. Not an easy man. It could be temperamental. He was very arrogant. He rubbed people up the wrong way on an hourly basis. I think that Rex and Joe have a love hate relationship. Joe's agent, Robbie Lance, compared Rex to a very fine, very expensive musical instrument. Rex is incredible master, you know, high comedy. The marvelous performer is a selfish, vocal, spoiled son of a bitch. To Joe, Rex is what to high fits must be Stradivarius, you know, and it may be cumbersome to carry and it is high to insure, but it's irresistible as an instrument. Rex Harrison officially joined the cast to play Julius Caesar just days before the start of shooting. He was 53, no spring chicken, and almost 24 years older than Elizabeth Taylor. His salary was $10,000 a week plus expenses. And even though Julius Caesar is assassinated halfway through the film, he, Rex, was promised star billing. Right up there with Liz and Richard Burton. Rex came on board not having read a script. That's because no one had read a script. We all took it on faith because it was Joe. I mean, I hadn't seen a word. Burton hadn't seen a word. 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Availability, amount of discounts, and savings and eligibility vary by state. There was a big party the night before the first day of shooting. Joe wanted to spend the night writing, but felt the need to show up, make an appearance. Joe's secretary, Adelaide Wallace, remembers that night. She and Joe stopped by Chinichita to double check the set. And he looked at it and he said, no way. Joe was inspecting the interior of an Egyptian temple. Cleopatra and her high priestess were supposed to be filmed praying there the next morning. But Joe didn't like what he saw, not at all. He immediately called his crew to fix the set, which they did. That's one thing the Italians are good at. They don't call up the union boss and say, can I do it? You know, they do it the next day. My uncle wrote in his diary. Monday, September 25, 1961. Shoot day number one. Start. Cleopatra, exclamation point. Studio at 9:30. Rex Harrison off to a good natured start. Ms. Taylor Late even with 1pm Shooting call. First shot at 2:20. Whenever my uncle felt annoyed about Elizabeth, he referred to her as Ms. Taylor. Ms. Taylor late even with a 1pm Shooting call. That's how Cleopatra began. One year, one hour and 20 minutes late, already $5 million over budget, and Ms. Taylor arriving well past her 1pm Shooting call. But when Ms. Taylor finally did walk in front of the camera, her look was striking. I summoned you yesterday to Noreens and my throne room. When audiences first got a look at the Cleopatra makeup, they were probably bowled over by the glamour of it. This is Raisa Britannia. I did my Cleopatra eye for you today, but I toned it down. Rysa is the author of Moxie the Daring Women of Classic Hollywood. She's a fashion historian and a big fan of Cleopatra's eyeshadow. She wears an exaggerated winged liner that extends past the eye onto the temple, dramatically arched eyebrows, and just a swath of blue eyeshadow from her famous double lash line all the way up to the crook of her brow. And legend has took her two hours to put this makeup on every day they shot. Colorful makeup was actually common in ancient Egypt, so Elizabeth's iconic makeup was quite possibly historically accurate. And Liz herself likely had a hand in designing it. It's commonly known that Elizabeth Taylor liked to do her own makeup for her films. She knew what shades of blue Eyeshadow would best feature the unique color of her eyes. On that first day of shooting, Cleopatra kneels in front of a fire. Julius Caesar stands quietly by. An Egyptian high priestess looks into the fire. A son shall be born to Isis. A son shall be born to Isis. Rome shall know him. Cleopatra leans her head forward, close to the ground. She's overjoyed at this news. She takes Caesar by hand, stands up and they walk off set. In his diary, my uncle wrote, good day's work. All considered, the first two days of filming went well enough. Joe got the shots he needed. The next day was a different story. Joe wrote in his diary, Wednesday, September 27, no shooting. That's in caps. Officially called rehearsal day. He continued, actually, no set is ready. I can take the rap for going over schedule just as I will go over the absurd and unrealistic budget which cannot possibly be met. Instead of shooting, Joe used the day to work on the script in his hotel room. The day after that, things got worse. Thursday, September 28, shoot day three, a disorganized, sweltering set. Ms. Taylor in a snit about some adverse publicity. Ms. Taylor to leave at five, having started theoretically at one to receive an award. Air conditioners requested by me weeks ago will be here. Domane, Hammer, crane, move to position one for rehearsal when it's got really hot. Joe walked around shirtless. I found a picture of him on the set of Cleopatra. He's wearing high waisted pants, a bucket hat. He's got a pipe in his mouth, but no shirt. It is quite a look. He's also wearing a necklace. It looks like a little coin, but when I zoom in, I can see it's actually a St. Christopher medal. It was a gift from his production secretary, Rosemary Matthews. She was very close to my uncle. St. Christopher is the patron saint of travelers. The medal is supposed to protect people who go on journeys. My uncle Joe was not Catholic, but maybe he figured on this movie he'd take all the help he could get. On Thursday, October 12, rehearsals started for the biggest scene in the movie. What they call the money shot in Cleopatra is Cleopatra's entry into Rome. Joe's plan went like this. Create a stunning site for the people of Rome as Cleopatra arrives in the city for the first time. They'd shoot it on the outdoor set of the Forum, Rome's largest gathering place. Extras were hired to play the Romans clamoring to see Cleopatra. Thousands of screaming, screaming extras. And to this day, nobody's sure how many extras there actually were. Joe wanted trumpeters on Horseback announcing Cleopatra's arrival. They'd be followed by an over the top entourage. Animals, dancers, acrobats. Joe understood the magnitude of the moment. He wrote in his diary, the size of it staggering. Then a massive wooden black sphinx would enter the Forum. Let me clarify here. A moving sphinx. It was on wheels, 35ft high, 70ft long, pulled by rows of Egyptian slaves, hundreds of them. High atop the sphinx, Cleopatra sitting on a golden throne. When Cleopatra processes into Rome, she, she is wearing perhaps the most iconic look in the film, which is gold from head to toe and topped with a really, really extravagant headdress. Raisa Britannia. Again, she's wearing a pretty show stopping cape that was designed to resemble the wings of a phoenix. And this cape is said to be made from gold leather and then embroidered with thousands upon thousands of gold bugle beads and seed beads. That was the plan. Given the complicated logistics, Joe scheduled two days of rehearsal. Managing the animals alone was a nightmare. Adelaide Wallace says they hired a local circus troupe to supply elephants for women to ride into Rome. They kept swearing, yes, they were trained. They would walk trunk to tail. Well, the damn elephants came and they didn't know their front from their end. They were not trained at all. Nobody had time to train them. They built a tent for them, they broke out of the tent, they knocked down fences. It was horrible. Joe used every minute of rehearsal, making decisions on the fly and solving problems as quickly as possible. On Monday, October 16, it was time for the cameras to roll. My uncle wrote in his diary on Forum set at 8:15am Taylor, half an hour late, decided not to ignore it. Showed my annoyance. Assistant directors, form up all units in the Mankiewicz to Kevin. Everyone is on set, the entire cast, the crew, the extras, the animals. Filming begins first, the trumpeters, followed by soldiers riding chariots, archers shooting arrows high into the sky, ribbon dancers and what are supposed to be African tribal dancers. Most of the female dancers were basically naked. The scene feels very operatic, but it also feels very Las Vegas to me. There are some showgirls amongst those dancers, for sure. Nothing like this has come into Rome since Romulus and Remus. Rex Harrison and Richard Burton were there waiting for Elizabeth's grand entry. There were black panthers and there were elephants and 80 Nubian slaves who weren't black enough, so they were painted blacker than they were. This is Richard from a 1983 documentary. There were 40 dwarfs painted as zebras sitting on 40 donkeys. Also painted the zebras. So they had to start 2 o' clock in the morning making up these People. And they'd been rehearsing. The dancers had been rehearsing for months. And so Joe Mankiewicz, the director, said, okay, roll them. We had something like, I think, five cameras going, man. The whole thing starts and the music starts and the tambourines go and boom. And all come the dancers and then the panthers and the elephants, these thousands of extra. And suddenly Joe Mang said, cut. Cut, God damn it. He said, get that guy out of here. There was a chap selling ice cream in the crowd. Filming continued into the next day. Just five seconds of footage took hours to set up. They finished filming the acrobats when the skies opened up. Rain delayed shooting for two more days. When the rain finally stopped, Joe found that water had damaged the sets. They couldn't resume filming until the following Wednesday, when they started back up. The rain returned. 20th Century Fox was told that it didn't rain a great deal at that time of year in Rome. Martin Landau remembers everyone being surprised except the locals. The Italians, in this instance, did not tell the entire truth. And it does rain a lot. And quite a tempestuous rain storm that occurred, you know, for days and days and days. Coordinating this kind of scene is incredibly challenging. To set all that up and then call it on account of rain must have been demoralizing, not to mention expensive. Every rain delay cost fox between 40 and $75,000. Finally, they gave up. They decided to shoot the scene again in the spring. So the end of production was now delayed by months. My Uncle Joe kept at it. He filmed during the day, weather permitting, and wrote at night. Some days, sets weren't ready on time, so Joe improvised reluctantly. Friday, October 20th. A nonsensical quote, unquote. Shooting day. One of those idiotic, as long as we're working, or let's get something on film days watched rushes, still not overjoyed, in fact depressed. One of Joe's hardest jobs was managing the cast. He was thrilled with Richard Burton's performance, but Ms. Taylor was always late, and Rex Harrison was either a dream or a nightmare. Monday, October 30th. Harrison incapable of remembering his lines. I used every psychiatric approach this side of shock treatment. Rex was not known as being the most pleasant fellow in the world, but dad got along with him. They were both very intellectual people. That's Joe's son, Tom Mankiewicz, on the Cleopatra DVD commentary. Tom, who later became a successful writer and director himself, visited the Cleopatra set while on break from college. They would have disagreements. I remember at one point Rex had to say, the army is arriving on schedule. As Caesar. And he said, the army's arriving on schedule. And after the first take, dad said, you know, Rex, maybe you should say schedule. It's a little jarring to have the British pronunciation. And Rex said, well, it is schedule. I mean, it can't be anything else but schedule. And dad said, well, I really wish you'd say schedule. And the script supervisor was standing there and said, well, which is it going to be? And dad said, let him say whatever he learned in shul. Around this time, just a month into, production, executives at Fox started writing to Joe, asking what could be trimmed from the budget. Joe had to justify every decision he made. With the pressure on him intensifying, my uncle started to self medicate. There was someone who would wake me up at 6 o' clock and I would gulp down a Dexedrine. Dexedrine is a stimulant. It's like caffeine on steroids. After lunch, I would be given a shot to keep me going in the afternoon. I was then given a shot after dinner so I could Write until about 2 in the morning. I was then given a shot to put me to sleep, about 2 o' clock in the morning. And Judy Garland. I was given shots, alternate shots, to wake me up and put me to sleep because I would write at night. Nobody shoot the next day. Why would you let them do this to you? Physically, there was no other. Who else was going to do it? While Joe stayed up all hours writing, his cast was having a blast. They'd go out to eat, drink, smoke, cavort. The dollar was strong against the Italian lira, and every production delay meant another week of salary. Perhaps the man having the best time of all was Richard Burton. I mean, he had a real drink problem at the time. There was this group of actors called Hellraisers. Richard Burton, Richard Harris, Oliver Reed, Peter o'. Toole. Legendary drinkers. And Burton was, was up there with the best of them. One of the reasons Richard Burton liked making movies was that it gave him more time to drink. For him, film was an easy option. I mean, you didn't have to remember whole chunks of speech. You could do 1, 2, 3 minute shots and then move on to the next thing. Plenty of time for drink in between. You know, Richard regularly stayed out late, sometimes with his wife, sometimes with another woman. The next morning he'd show up to set completely wasted or still drinking or with a hangover, like he did when he filmed his first one. On one scene with Elizabeth Taylor. You quite sure what it is you want so desperately? I'VE always been sure. It was Monday, January 22, 1962. They were on a set called Cleopatra's Villa. The plan was to shoot close ups and reaction shots. Elizabeth told Larry King she knew Richard's reputation as a womanizer. I'd met him before, but I thought, I'm not going to be a scalp on his belt because he was a terrible flirt. And the first scene we had on Cleopatra, he was so hungover. He was pathetic. He drank a lot. No kidding, all Welshman do. And I felt my heart just went, oh, poor baby. Richard was trying to chase away his headache with a cup of coffee. He said, could you help hold this cup up to my lips please? My hands are shaking too much. So I did and I looked into those green eyes and it was like, belt, here I am, belt, here I am. That is how the affair of the century started. A hangover, a trembling hand and a cup of coffee. I had a scene with Richard and we were the only two actors on call. One of their co stars, Martin Landau, remembers exactly when he found out. I walked into makeup at 7:30 in the morning and Elizabeth was sitting in a makeup department. I mean there were days where there were 10,000 people, but there were days there were two actors. And then I went back into the chair and I said, what the heck is she doing here? You know, it was very early in the morning. Richard came in, said morning. Martin went to her, kissed her on the forehead and sat down in the chair next to me and I said, oh boy. Oh my God. We'll be back after the break. Are you ready to dairy free your mind this summer? Melt away your dairy free expectations with so delicious dairy free frozen desserts enjoy mind blowing flavors like salted caramel, cluster chocolate cookies and cream cookie dough and more. For over 35 years, so delicious has been cranking up the flavor with show stopping products that are 100% dairy free, certified vegan by vegan action and are so unbelievably creamy your taste buds will do a double take. Dairy free your mind. Visit sodeliciousdairyfree.com not all meals are created equal. For instance, breakfast has a spicy egg McMuffin for a limited time and lunch doesn't McDonald's breakfast comes first. Richard and I fell in love on the set of Cleopatra and we tried not to. That's Elizabeth Taylor on Larry King. Was Cleopatra a difficult shoot? Very, considering that we were in love and trying not to show it. The truth is there was already a lot of gossip on set about whether Liz and Richard were having an affair. Joe learned it wasn't a rumor. On Friday, January 26, 1962, he wrote this in his diary before lunch, heard from Elizabeth about her problems. Elizabeth came to him and said, I think there's something you should know. Richard and I are in love. Sidney Stern is the author of the Brothers Mankiewicz. And Joe immediately said, well, don't tell Eddie Fisher. Keep it out of your marriage. And she goes, oh, it's too late. I've already told him. Eddie Fisher, Elizabeth's fourth husband. He started calling Joe for advice almost every night. Joe, the father figure slash therapist, becomes the counselor for all of them. Eddie called Joe. Richard called Joe. Elizabeth called Joe. He was surrounded on all sides by this love triangle. His diary entries are riddled with notes about their therapy sessions. Saturday, February 3rd, early call from Eddie Fisher. He was about to take off for Paris, depressed and unhappy. Then Elizabeth, she said, after five months of this, I'll either be with Fisher or Burton or kill myself. My guess, none of the three. I don't think Burton had any concept at what he was getting into. In his memoir, Eddie Fisher said he hated Richard Burton. I thought he was an arrogant slob. He once marched into the makeup trailer and pronounced loudly, I have just fucked Elizabeth Taylor in the backseat of my car. One night, Elizabeth came home late. Richard was with her. Eddie invited him in. We sat down in a little office off the dining room, and there he played one of the great scenes of his life. He was bold. He was dramatic, forceful. But mostly he was drunk. The three of them, husband, wife and lover, continued to drink for hours, one bottle of brandy after another. Finally, Richard confronted Elizabeth. He looked right at her and snarled, elizabeth, who do you love? Who do you love? She looked at me, then at Burton, and said softly to him, you. That's the right answer. He snapped. Eddie and I were not in love. My marriage was already falling apart. Elizabeth was torn. Not because of Eddie, because Richard was married. I did not want to break up. Richard's married to Sybil, who is an extraordinary woman. Sybil Williams and Richard Burton married in 1949. The two met on a film set and had been together for close to 15 years. They had two young daughters. Liz already had a reputation as a home wrecker, and Eddie, of course, left Debbie Reynolds to be with Liz. Elizabeth hated the idea of splitting up another family, but saying no to Richard was particularly difficult. Richard, when he wanted to turn on the charm, was the most captivating guy in the world. He was a man's man and a ladies man. That's my cousin again, Tom Mankiewicz. Men wanted to be Richard and women wanted to sleep with him. And he had a reputation. Joe thought Richard was out for conquest. He made up his mind to get her. I don't think Elizabeth went out to break up Burton's home or went out to get Richard Burton. I think she fell in love with him. Yes. He was a goddamn attractive guy and was capable of making her fall in love with him, which he did. But I think that Richard went out to make her fall in love with him and succeeded. Joe was living every director's nightmare. His two married leads were having an affair and he was the one who had to keep it secret, Basically an impossible task. Elizabeth and Richard had all this pent up passion and they were playing lovers on screen. This is Fox publicist Jack Brodsky on the DVD commentary. One day when Richard and Elizabeth would would doing a love scene, Joe said, cut. And they didn't stop and he said, cut. He finally had to shout cut for the two of them to realize what they were doing. When he couldn't take it any longer, Joe confided in producer Walter Wanger. Film professor Matthew Bernstein says Joe asked Wanger to come to his hotel room and come alone. Joseph Mankiewicz told Wanger, I've been sitting on a volcano all alone for too long, and I want to give you some facts you ought to know. He said, liz and Burton are not just playing Antony in Cleopatra. Wanger's biggest concern was that the affair would upset Taylor. Burton might do something or somehow it wouldn't go well and it would upset her so she couldn't act and keep working on the film. Telling Wanger took some of the burden off Joe. Now, Elizabeth, Richard and Eddie had someone else to call with their problems. Wanger remembers Eddie calling a lot. He was in horrible shape. Wanger was worried he could get violent. There's a story, which I can't confirm, that he pulled a gun on Burton. Burton took the gun out of his hand. It was a crisis situation. Elizabeth Taylor confirmed that Eddie had a gun. In an HBO documentary. She said she felt threatened. Eddie at nighttime, would sit up and he had a gun. Every time I start to close my eyes and nod up, he would, like stroke my arm and say, I'm not gonna kill you. I wouldn't shoot you. You're much too pretty. All night long, Eddie never used his gun. He later said he wouldn't even know how to use it. Instead, on Valentine's Day, Eddie skipped town, drove to Switzerland in a green Rolls Royce. As soon as he was gone, Elizabeth and Richard turned up the heat. They were like love struck kids. Richard at 36, Liz at 29. They'd scurry off together every lunch, every camera set up. Joe wrote in his diary that Liz even showed up to work when she wasn't in a scene. Wednesday, February 14th. Ms. Taylor. Surprise, surprise. A visitor. The to set before the lunch break. I wonder why. And then he went on after lunch. The disaster. The news from Burton that Eddie Fisher had called Sybil and told her every detail of what was and had been going on. Cybil responded by storming one of the set and confronting Burton. Mankiewicz suspended production for the day at a cost of 100,000. Richard was outraged. On the phone, he threatened to kill Eddie. Eddie, in a panic, called Joe. Joe promised he wouldn't get killed. Thursday, February 15th. Joe wrote. Taylor and Burton both reported they were too ill to work. Spoke to Burton. Deep Welsh remorse. He too wants to come see me. I must get an appointment, book my prognosis. The situation cannot be cured. Taylor is a very sick woman. She deeply wants disaster, particularly to herself. Sybil Burton gave her husband an ultimatum. Leave Liz or I'm out of here. So Richard told Elizabeth, it's over. Liz didn't take the news well. The next morning, Wanger and Joe went to Elizabeth's villa. Liz talked for most of the day. She felt dreadful about Sybil. Around five that evening, Elizabeth excused herself and headed upstairs. After a few minutes, Wanger went up to check on her. She was in bed, looking exhausted. She told him she took sleeping pills. Someone on staff called an ambulance. No one is quite sure if this was a suicide attempt. Years later, Liz called it a cry for help. She claims she took enough to knock herself out. But that's it again, Tom Mankiewicz. It was touch and go there for a while and they called dad to come down to the hospital and he leaned in and he said to her, elizabeth, how many did you take? How many did you take? And she mumbled something like 14. And he said, she'll be fine. If she could count him, she's fine. Joe was right. Elizabeth would be fine. But she was out of commission for the next few days. And then things got really messy. We had kept this whole affair under wraps. There were rumors, but nobody could print them. Jack Brodsky, Fox's publicist, was trying to keep the affair out of the newspapers. The Italian press was circling. They offered to pay crew members for scoops. There were whispers of spies on the set. I said to Joe one day, how can you be so placid when all of this is happening? And he gave me a great phrase. He said, when you're in a cage with lions, you never let them know that you're afraid of them or they'll eat you. But a couple of days later, February 19, 1962, the press finally got what they were waiting for. I saw Burton's publicist and he said to me, I'm going to straighten all this out. I'm going to have a press conference and deny it. I said, don't deny it. That'll give them cause to print it. And as he walked away, it looked to me like a guy with a match walking into a forest to set a fire. And it's surely that's exactly what happened. The denial turned a rumor into a story, something they could print. After that, photographers started stalking both Elizabeth and Richard. And a couple of weeks later, one of the paparazzi hit paydirt. The 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is for individuals in crisis or for those looking to help someone in crisis. Speak with a trained listener. Call 988. For more information, visit 988lifeline.org Angela Caron is our director of podcasts. Story editor is Rob Rosenthal. Jacob Friedman is our senior producer. Script writing by Jaco Friedman, Natalia Winkelman and Angela Caron. Research and fact checking by the indispensable James Sheridan. Audio editing and sound design by Mike Vulgaris. Mixing by Glenn Matullo. Production support from Liz Winter, Allison Fox, Matthew Ownby, Julie Bettone, Emma Morris, Jordan Chips, Nicole Hill and David Corwin at Patches. Thanks to our legal team, Jean Renaud and Kristen Hassell. The following TCM staffers help us get the word out about our podcast. So thank you to Alina Novik, Katie Daniels, David Byrne, Diana Bosch, Caroline Wigmore, Michelle Height and Stephanie Tames. Our executive producer is Charlie Tabish. And a special thank you to the archivists at the American Film Institute, the Wisconsin center for Film and Theater Research, and Boston University. We could not make these podcasts without the work of archivists around the country. Special thanks to my family, especially my cousins Alex Mankiewicz and Nick Davis. I regret that I never got to interview my cousin cousins Tom and Chris Mankiewitz. They died before we started production. Thomas Avery of Tune Welders composed our theme music. I'm your host, Ben Mankiewicz. Thanks for listening. 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