Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, and Bill Miller IV join this panel recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss bitcoin as a long-term adoption story, why it represents sovereignty and “freedom money” for many, and how athletes and traditional finance investors think about allocating to it. We also cover common criticisms, the education gap, bitcoin vs. gold, and why the panel believes we’re still early in a multi-decade trend.

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0:00 – Intro: Bitcoiners vs the World
1:00 – Russell Okung on taking his salary in bitcoin
4:44 – Natalie Brunell’s bitcoin journey
7:25 – A traditional finance view on bitcoin
9:08 – The bitcoin mindset & sovereignty
14:45 – Bitcoin, hope, & the American dream
17:28 – What institutions think about bitcoin
19:32 – How to talk about bitcoin to different audiences

Bitcoin Is Just Getting Started (Most People Don’t See It Yet) | Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, & Bill Miller IV