INSANE Examples of Tech Invading Our Lives | Kevin Clancy

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The Pomp Podcast with Anthony Pompliano

Episode Title: INSANE Examples of Tech Invading Our Lives | Kevin Clancy
Guest: Kevin Clancy (KFC), Barstool Sports
Date: July 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Anthony "Pomp" Pompliano is joined by Kevin Clancy (familiarly known as KFC from Barstool Sports) for a thought-provoking and wide-ranging conversation. The central theme is the rapid and sometimes unsettling infiltration of technology into everyday life—from self-driving cars surveilling their riders, to the explosion of home surveillance, AI, and even neural implants. Through personal anecdotes and cultural commentary, the duo debate the tradeoffs, benefits, and unintended consequences of this technological onslaught. Their discussion entertains, educates, and challenges listeners to think about the brave new world emerging all around them.

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Key Discussion Topics & Insights

1. The "Everyman" Experience With Technology

• KFC as the Everyman:
  "The only thing I can help explain to people is the Everyman experience because that’s just what I am." (01:32, KFC)
• Both hosts acknowledge that the average person is about to face a much "weirder" relationship with technology, not just in abstract, but in everyday practical terms.

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2. Self-Driving Cars & Surveillance: The Waymo Paintball Incident

[01:36–05:29]

• The Incident: Two 15-year-olds in California, while being driven by a Waymo autonomous car, shot paintballs and drank alcohol. Waymo—monitoring interior cameras—contacted police, tricked the kids into staying put by feigning car trouble, and handed them over to authorities.
• Slippery Slope Concerns:
  • "If that Waymo stopped a school shooting—amazing. But are we gonna, like, that's the 0.01% of life and the other 99.9% is now going to be surveilled and I just don't like that." (00:26, KFC)
• Ethics of Machine Authority:
  "Now some security or operations person at Waymo is like judge, jury and executioner on your behavior." (04:31, KFC)
• Childhood Joy/Erosion:
  "It also takes the joy out of childhood a little bit too, right?" (05:10, Pomp)
  • "Maybe it makes it more fun. Like you might get caught by the Waymo surveillance cameras..." (05:14, KFC)
• Are they watched all the time?
  Both are skeptical of Waymo’s claim that cameras aren’t always monitored.

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3. Ubiquity of Cameras: Flock Cameras and Ring Surveillance

[05:29–09:56]

• Rise of Flock Camera Systems:
  • These are license plate-reading cameras in residential areas, making car theft far harder but sparking privacy debates.
  • Thieves themselves admit: "We can't steal cars anymore because of Flock." (06:01, Pomp paraphrasing a viral podcast clip)
• False Positives & Overreach:
  • KFC recounts an incident where an innocent woman was accused of theft based on circumstantial video and license plate data—only exonerated thanks to her own surveillance evidence. (06:44–07:53)
• Impact on Innocents:
  "It was all over some petty theft...what if it's not? What if she matched the description of a hit and run or a murder or something crazy?" (07:53, KFC)
• Home vs. Neighborhood Surveillance:
  • Ring cameras are usually consumer-chosen; Flock cameras are often imposed by homeowners associations or local governments, raising concerns about always-on, external surveillance. (09:11–11:22, summarized)

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4. Psychological Impact & Cultural Shift

[11:22–12:33]

• Generational Divide:
  KFC notes that today's young people are growing up with constant monitoring as the norm and are unlikely to resist it the way older generations do:
  "We're going to die out. And the new people who have grown up with it this way are not gonna get twice about [being surveilled]." (12:14, KFC)
• Loss of Human Element:
  Technology is eroding the human element in even traditions like umpiring in baseball.

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5. Tech Infiltration in Youth Sports & Parenting

[12:44–19:41]

• Business of Youth Sports:
  • "The amount of money..." (13:25, KFC)—KFC details the explosion in spending in dance, soccer, and baseball, often driven by parental delusion and industry exploitation.
• AI in Youth Sports:
  • Now using tracking apps to analyze kids' movements, speeds, and game performance.
  • KFC: "We're talking...you're tracking your 7-year-old running on a soccer field." (19:10, KFC)
• Surveillance Culture:
  • Everyone’s a videographer—parents document everything, sometimes unreasonably.
  • "It is so embarrassing...I just could never fathom being a person at a game with like seven-year-olds and you’re cursing and screaming..." (14:45, KFC)
• Underlying Philosophy:
  "Soccer in the world is a juggernaut because you need a ball and something to kick into. Now it's two grand to play travel soccer." (15:41, KFC)

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6. Cameras Helping—and Hurting—the Authorities

[19:35–24:10]

• Police Body Cams:
  • Originated to hold officers accountable, but are often used to vindicate police in contentious incidents.
  • "Body cams have done more to help the cops." (19:35, Pomp)
• Memorable Moment – The Subway Sword Story
  • Pomp recounts a viral body cam video of an officer fatally shooting a man wielding a sword. The cam's footage provides critical context for public judgment.
  • "The body cam, it made me feel sorry for the police officer who was like, this is my job...what would you do in that situation?" (22:16, Pomp)
• Surveillance as Double-Edged Sword:
  • Both agree body cams "should just be on all the time" to maximize their positive impact and accountability. (23:56, KFC)

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7. Housing Affordability & The Myth of Homeownership

[25:33–34:22]

• Unattainable American Dream:
  • "My generation was so obsessed with the idea of...owning a home." (25:44, KFC)
  • Home prices have outpaced wages to such a degree that even $1 million in New York City is not enough for a "dream life"—just sustenance.
• Shifting Attitudes:
  • The new generation questions whether homeownership is even a wise financial move, with some prioritizing freedom and flexibility over property.
• Cost of Education:
  • Staggering school and preschool tuition fees; pressure to participate in the "rat race" to give kids a shot at success.

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8. From Deloitte to Barstool: A Personal Tech/Life Arc

[34:22–37:15]

• KFC’s Origin Story:
  KFC shares how he worked at Deloitte while secretly building his Barstool blogging persona, capturing the power of digital side hustles and the unpredictability of career paths.

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9. Content Creation, Podcasts & the Shifting Media Landscape

[37:15–43:26]

• Authenticity Reigns:
  • "Authenticity reigns supreme." (37:45, KFC)
  • But the bar for podcast discovery is now far higher; everyone is a podcaster, and “star power” or a compelling angle are prerequisites for breakout success.
• AI & Content Production:
  • Current AI tools assist with editing and clipping but can’t “get” humor or context the way humans do—at least not yet. (42:41–43:26, KFC)

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10. AI, Influencers, and Deepfakes

[43:30–45:26]

• Rise of AI Personalities:
  • Both have noticed AI-generated influencers, and the growing ability to manipulate video has created a new line of defense:
    "The new 'I was hacked' is 'that's AI.'" (44:08, KFC)

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11. The Next Wave: Humanoids, Embedded Tech, and Neuralink

[45:26–58:35]

• Acceptance of Robots:
  "If you told me this thing can do your dishes and vacuum... I'll do that, but then I think... that thing will be hacked and spying on you in two seconds." (45:44, KFC)
• Next Big Societal "Blind Spot":
  • Pomp predicts: "They let humans be the doctors or... the drivers." (47:44, Pomp)
• Personal Story – AI Saves the Twins:
  • Pomp’s wife, after receiving dire pregnancy advice from a doctor, checked the sonogram image with ChatGPT, which correctly identified the medical situation—saving their twins and illustrating AI’s growing, sometimes life-or-death, role in diagnostics. (48:05–51:25)
• Skepticism/Pragmatism:
  • Both admit that every profession has its share of incompetents, and AI offers a new, inevitably fallible, failsafe.

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12. The Neuralink Tipping Point & Enhancement Ethics

[55:52–59:57]

• Neuralink’s Adoption Threshold:
  • "How many people have to have the neural link implanted in their brain safely, and then you’re like, fine, I'll do it... Is everyone in my circle doing it?" (56:36–58:41, Pomp/KFC)
• Race for Cognitive/Physical Enhancement:
  • Parallels to steroids in youth sports and new trends like growth hormone for kids:
    "That's probably one of those things that, 500 years from now, they're going to go, 'You guys didn't take the medication that makes you better?'" (59:50, KFC)
  • The arms race of enhancement, whether digital or biological, is inevitable and full of moral gray areas.

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13. The Search for Simplicity

[64:03–66:34]

• Yearning for the Simple Life:
  • Pomp: "Edging the lawn sounds pretty good right now."
  • KFC: "I've had that exact thought… but also, and we see that and it's amazing and then they're like, yeah, try it in February when it's 10 below."
  • Both reflect that every lifestyle carries its own unseen burdens, yet the overload of modern tech breeds nostalgia for simplicity and ignorance ("ignorance is bliss").
• Replaceability:
  • KFC notes, even in high-status jobs, most people are replaceable and it’s the risk-takers who write history.

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14. Barstool Story, Lightning in a Bottle & the Evolution of Content

[69:17–75:08]

• Barstool’s ‘Everything is Content’ Ethos:
  • "Everything: content over everything, man." (72:36, KFC)
• Right Time, Right Place:
  • The podcast covers innovative, irreverent, and sometimes chaotic Barstool history—timing, authenticity, and having a cast of eccentric characters made for an unrepeatable media phenomenon.

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15. The Future: Bitcoin as Millennial "Property," Generational Investing

[77:04–81:54]

• Generational Asset Play:
  • Pomp: "The boomers had housing. The millennials have satoshi." (77:34, Pomp)
  • Housing and gold yielded massive long-term returns; Pomp argues that, similarly, millennials can treat bitcoin as a generational hold.
• On Scarcity:
  • "Scarcity becomes very valuable in a world of abundance." (80:41, Pomp)
• The Crazy Uncle Portfolio:
  • "Land, guns, Bitcoin and gold. Those are the four. Buy them up, baby." (82:37, KFC)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Now some security or operations person at Waymo is like judge, jury and executioner on your behavior."
  — Kevin Clancy, 04:31

• "The new 'I was hacked' is 'that's AI.'"
  — Kevin Clancy, 44:08

• "You know what's weird? I think being ignorant is the best thing in the world. Ignorance is bliss, baby."
  — Kevin Clancy, 64:03

• "Everything: content over everything, man."
  — Kevin Clancy, 72:36

• "Scarcity becomes very valuable in a world of abundance."
  — Anthony Pompliano, 80:41

• "Land, guns, Bitcoin and gold. Those are the four. Buy them up, baby." — Kevin Clancy, 82:37

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• Waymo paintball incident & surveillance: 01:36–05:29
• Rise of Flock Cameras: 05:29–09:56
• Youth sports, AI tracking, and surveillance: 12:44–19:41
• Police body cams—helping/hurting: 19:35–24:10
• Homeownership's shifting value proposition: 25:33–34:22
• AI in life-or-death medicine & professional incompetence: 48:05–53:12
• Neuralink & enhancement ethics: 55:52–59:57
• Barstool's business model and media philosophy: 69:17–75:08
• The "Crazy Uncle" generational investment portfolio: 82:28–82:54

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a sharp, relatable exploration of how technology—surveillance, AI, robotics, and financial tech—has saturated modern life, raising urgent questions for the everyman. Pomp and KFC’s chemistry is evident, weaving humor, skepticism, and genuine insight into a discussion about an increasingly bizarre (and surveilled) American experience. The episode concludes with the universal truth: some things change, but a little "crazy uncle" wisdom—land, guns, Bitcoin, and gold—might always be worth holding onto.

Follow Kevin Clancy at @kfcbarstool on Instagram for more.

Transcript

[Anthony Pompliano]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

My big problem with all these things is there's always going to be extreme examples where this is a great thing. Like I said, if that Waymo stopped a school shooting, amazing.

[Anthony Pompliano]

The Waymo would be the hero.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Amazing. But are we gonna like that's the 0.01% of life and the other 99.9 is now going to be surveilled and I just don't like that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What's going on guys? Today we got a great conversation with Kevin Clancy, better known as KFC from Barstool. In this conversation we are going to go deep into what the heck is going on with all this new technology and how it is going to impact your lives. And we get super weird. We talk about Waymo and how it may have helped get some kids arrested. We also talk about flock cameras, ring cameras and how everywhere we see cameras infiltrating our lives and what the impact is. And then we get into some of the really weird technology that is starting to be used on daily basis. I think you will find it fascinating that both he and I have very unique thoughts on how this technology, what's good about it, what's bad about it, and how it is going to possibly negatively affect you all that much more in this conversation with kfc. All right, kfc, you are here to help me understand one thing which is the Everyman experience with technology is about to get very fucking weird.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But one of the only things I can help explain to people is the Everyman experience because that's just what I am.

[Anthony Pompliano]

That's just what you are. All right, let's talk first about Waymo. So everyone's really said about self driving cars, but there's a story recently that there's two 15 year old boys out in California, they were driving around in the Waymo or being driven in the Waymo and they had like a paintball gun essentially and they were drinking, so underage drinking and they were shooting people out of the window.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Guns, America, baby, I don't see. So where's the problem? What's the story?

[Anthony Pompliano]

They didn't see a problem Obviously. Long story short is that Waymo allegedly only realized this because it was unique experiences through their cameras inside the vehicle. They realized that these kids were shooting the paintballs out of the car. They called the police, they disabled the vehicle, they tricked the kids and told them they're having some car trouble, just stay in the car. And then the cops show up and get them in trouble. I think they got arrested or whatever. Yeah, self driving cars sound awesome. Getting essentially kidnapped by the guy Wavo, even if they're waiting for the cops. That sounds like this is gonna get really weird.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I'm not one of the. I'm not one of these, like, doomsday conspiracy guys when it comes to. To technology. More often than not, just being in the space I'm in, like, I find technology, technological advances to be a good thing. And then the tinfoil hat people start to go crazy. And a lot of times I'm like, all right, relax. But when you start to see, like, oh, I. I'm starting to see how this could be an issue, like, you know, in a. Like, if that was a real gun, probably be a good thing. Right? We'd be saying, like, wow, way mo

[Anthony Pompliano]

stopped these kids from stopped an active shooter.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, Right. And it's not. It's like, I understand where the confusion could have happened in this specific instance, but you know, the old slippery slope sort of thing, like, where do you draw the line? If you are somebody is, you know, on the phone, like, screaming at someone in the back of a wayo, can they decide that that person's dangerous or, I don't know, you have some drugs on you or whatever. What's supposed to be in a private moment? If wayo is just watching and probably watching, like, who can we call the co? You know, is it weirder that they

[Anthony Pompliano]

have cameras that they're watching? Because they claim that they don't watch the cameras all the time, which I find that very hard to believe. But that's what they claim, right? Is that the weirder part? Or is it weirder that they, like, disabled the car and, like, were able to essentially keep the kids?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, I feel like you can't, like, really have one without the other. It's like they both feed each other. It's. I. If the waymo, like, locked you in the car, that would be crazy. I mean, it sounds like they kind of just tricked two dumb kids into thinking there was car trouble, but maybe

[Anthony Pompliano]

they did lock them and they just don't want to say it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, we don't know. Nuts.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So like, would that change your view of this? And you'd be like, all right, that was too far. If they locked him in the car.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, because. All right, so like I have a gun on me in this car and the camera, real gun. Yeah. Who knows? We don't know. Right. But I don't know, what if it was because I, it was a self defense, I'm going to save my kids who are. And I have my gun and you lock me in the car now. You know what I mean?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like in California that's still illegal.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like all of these are obviously extreme scenarios, but.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, but also two 15 year old kids drinking and shooting paintball guns is an extreme scenario.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? Good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean that's the other thing too. It's like, am I, am I really too bent out of shape that two 15 year old kids who are shooting people drunk, you know, shooting paintballs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shooting at. But also, you know, you don't. I see some kid driving by with a painted black gun out the door. I'm not thinking, oh that's probably an orbeez that he's shooting at me. So, you know, if you're two kids who are about to go wreak havoc, I'm not gonna cry for you. But, but when you start to play out all the other scenarios where a car might surveil you, stalk you, spy on you and lock you in a car or call the authorities, like so now some security or operations person at Waymo is like judge, jury and executioner on your behavior.

[Anthony Pompliano]

It's kind of crazy, right? It also takes the joy out of childhood a little bit too. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If you, if you feel like at any given moment like, or maybe it makes it more fun, I don't know,

[Anthony Pompliano]

like you might get caught by the Waymo surveillance cameras.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We might be getting watched by the satellites in space. Like how are we going to get away with this? But yeah, I mean it's, it's, it's a lot harder to get away with anything.

[Anthony Pompliano]

It's funny you say that because obviously Flock, I don't. For those that don't know, Flock is like this whole camera system that they put up in residential areas. Usually they have license plate readers. All this stuff I saw. Who's the guy? Adam. He like jump Adam.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Adam 22. No. Jumper.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, that guy. Right. He had on. I'm pretty sure they were like the two ringleaders of like some sort of San Francisco or California based like criminal enterprise. And they were talking on a podcast with their real faces Visible.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Saying we can't steal cars anymore because of Flock. And I was like, wait, what? And I just saw a clip online, and they were basically saying that because the license plate readers, it's very easy, but the cops also have drones now. So they were like, yeah, if we steal a car, they just shoot the drones up in the air. They start tracking us. Then they got the license plate reader and the cameras. So, like, hearing the people who are openly admitting, like, we used to steal cars, we can't do that anymore because of this technology. Positive development.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Same time is there's a lot of people who are fighting all the flock installations and being like, what do you mean? I just was like, driving down the street, and you're just videotaping me for no reason.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. I mean, the story I saw with flock was a. An Amazon package was stolen off of someone's front porch.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That was. First of all, we knew that because of a ring camera, because there's just constantly surveillance.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Well, the ring camera caught somebody stealing,

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

and that was like, we need to identify who that person is. Now, they went to someone in that neighborhood who did look extremely like this girl. So I could understand why it was like, a suspect. But the only evidence they had, they came back to her with a, you know, folder paper that said, you were in this town from 1152 to 1209, and that's exactly when this crime happened. You did it. And that. I mean, that was it. Oh.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Because what they did is they took the ring camera, knew it was a woman who kind of sort of looked like this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then they.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And then they had the license plate reader or something. And so they put together these two pieces of data, and they went to her and said, you stole the package.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And. And she was. They like, why else would you be there? And she was like, I drive to work there. That's my route to go to and from work. You will catch me there, like, all the time. And then she had her own video evidence showing that her car was actually in this town. And it was a picture of, you know, other evidence that they just would not look at. Because it sounded to me like they were excited almost to be like, we used our new system, and we got you.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so she used some surveillance or

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

another flop versus AI Surveillance versus surveillance. And she did eventually get off, but she had to, like, I think she had to go to court. She had to do all this nonsense, and it was all over some petty theft. But, you know, what if it's not. What if. What if she matched the description of a. Of a hit and run or a murder or something crazy.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I'm surprised Bezos hasn't invented like a unstable package.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, like, like locks to the ground somehow. Like extra gravity from space, like lift it up or.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, like when people rob a bank in the movies.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, there's like loads on the ink powder.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, if you steal an Amazon package, there should be powder that comes out of the box.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Isn't it Amazon's policy, like, if. If it does get stolen or break, they just like, whatever, we'll send you a new one, right?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Probably.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like an insane amount of. Like, we'll just accept.

[Anthony Pompliano]

We print so much money. We want to make you happy, right? Yeah, yeah, it is. They will do it on. It's happened. If I get like Uber delivery to our office building, you know, every. I don't know, one out of every 100 times, the food delivery guy, I'm not going to figure out where to put it. He just puts it outside on the freaking sidewalk in New York City. Like, dude, what do you think's going to happen by the second that, you know, they upload the photo, right? And you're like, oh, man, you get

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

down there, it's over, right?

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so then you like, message the Uber guy and you're like, someone stole it. And they're like, send evidence.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, it's not here. I'm hungry. That's the evidence. I'm still hungry.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Jerk. I don't have it. And I look, he put it on the sidewalk in New York City. What do you think happened to it? You think I got it? I said, like, but do you worry about, though?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think flock, I just like caught that news story and I started to see a bubbling. I think that' going to be the next especially because it's got a name. Like, we're gonna. It's gonna be Flock cameras and there's gonna be people who are pissed about that there.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I. I think, is it different than ring cameras? Like ring. I think people maybe they understand the residential use case for it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You choose, you put up your own ring. Like, I don't have a ring camera because I. I think it's a little bit weird. Or I also a ring camera outside home protection. Fine. It's like the people who have like NEST cameras and all their rooms, their houses and it's like, I don't know, man. I want to like pick my nose in my living room and not worry about someone looking at it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, like when your kid was Younger. Did you guys have a camera watching

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

the kid for like the. In the nursery?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, like that's the other thing though is I've seen stories where those can get hacked pretty easily.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, wow.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Now I don't know what you do, I don't know what you do with like a camera feed of like an infant sleeping.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, you know, creepy.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But it's weird, right? Like if you're a parent, you're like, wait a minute, hold on a second here.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like if you're, if you're putting any sort of like device smart something or other, you're going to always be susceptible to that. I don't know if this is true, but I was, I heard that after the holiday with the 78 degrees with mom Donnie, that somebody was saying that if you have like a smart thermostat, they can just lock you at that. Like they can go in there and be like, we're making it 78 so that we don't lose any power. And you have to know how to kind of like circumvent it and hack it and get in there because they. And I don't know if that's true.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Jailbreak thermostat.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, that's what it sounded like you need to do.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And like, you know there's some 14 year old kid on Craigslist. Right. I will jailbreak your thermostat for 100 doll. Yeah, exactly.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I'll gladly pay for you, bro. 278 degrees.

[Anthony Pompliano]

200 if you could be here in a half hour.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And like, and like extra hacket so it can go down to like 41 on a live in a freezer, man.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yes, it is weird though. Like I think it's maybe a good heuristic of like if you put the ring on yourself in your own property, that's one thing. But if you then go in your neighborhood and somebody else got to decide that the camera is there, your homeowners

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

association or a mayor, a local whatever, and they're just like, we're going to be watching you always. And it's like my, my big problem with all these things is there's always going to be extreme examples where this is a great thing. Like I said, if that Waymo stopped a school shooting. Amazing.

[Anthony Pompliano]

We would. The Waymo would be the hero.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Amazing. But are we gonna like that's the 0.01% of life. And the other 99.9is now going to be surveilled. And I just don't like that I always think this technology, though, I think it from major things like this down to like umpires in baseball with the. With the chall. I don't like it. My generation feels like it's robotic and we need an umpire and the human element and you know, when they're overturning calls that are microscopic, I don't like that. We're like the only generation in history that's we're gonna die out. And the new people who have grown up with it this way are not gonna get twice about.

[Anthony Pompliano]

They're just gonna have to automate.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So, yeah, cameras follow you when you drive through your neighborhood. Don't do anything stupid. Cameras watch you at home. Don't, you know, scratch your balls. Like, I. I think they're just gonna grow up with that as standards. So I don't think there'll be much outrage. Long outrage. I think a period of outrage for people like us who are dinosaurs and the rest of people. Just the way the world goes.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Before we move on, we talk about umpires. Let's give your boy a shout out. The. The baseball umpire on Instagram is electric. What. What is this? Yeah, yeah. What is this thing?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sit down, dude.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is a.

[Anthony Pompliano]

We'll put his handle on the screen.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He's truly one of my favorite followers in a long time. He's a umpire for local beer leagues and little league, but he calls out how ridiculous the kids are and how much money they spend and how they act. So he'll like play a little clip and then it cuts back to him and he just goes, three.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Sit down, kid.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it is so good every time. Because now that I'm doing some youth sports stuff myself, these. There are just times you want to, like the parents or a little kid,

[Anthony Pompliano]

you want to wring their neck, sit down. He's like, sir, your son, it did not strike out because I'm bad at my job. He just has fourteen hundred dollars worth of gear and he can't hit a baseball.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's. Yo, man. You want to talk about business? Business of youth sports is insane. And it's almost become cliche. If you, if you consume a lot of that youth sports content, it's like we're all saying it. So it's not a novel concept, but it is goddamn true. I mean, the amount of money, like,

[Anthony Pompliano]

what do you spend money on for it? My God.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So like, you know what's the craziest is dance for my daughter.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Dance.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Dance is like 10 grand. It's nuts.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Cuz they got to. They Got to pay for, like, they're in these competitions now. My daughter does a lot of dance, so she's in like seven different things. So it's a lot. But tip tap, ballet, hip hop, like, just pick one dance and do it. But they, they need to rent out, like, these, like, arenas and theaters for the competitions, and that costs money. And they all have to have the costumes, and then they're also putting it in their fat pockets.

[Anthony Pompliano]

100.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So there's that, you know, you know,

[Anthony Pompliano]

you know how you know sports, youth sports is making money. There's private equity is involved.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Private equity sniffs you out.

[Anthony Pompliano]

If they say, hey, this is a good spot for us to be in, that means that money is ended up in someone's pocket and they want a

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

piece of it, and we know they're going to ruin it even more. Like, they ruined everything else in the world. Private equity. God damn it. But, you know, even soccer.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What about, what about at these sporting events? Are the parents, like, recording everything and

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

editing and like, oh, my God, everyone is now a videographer. Everyone is, you know, for, like, fun

[Anthony Pompliano]

on Instagram or like, my kid's gonna go play college sports. Both.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But the, the delusion, the amount of like, you know, if your kid playing even like high school varsity in any of these sports is probably pretty slim. It is. Is infinitesimal that you're going to play college, and it is a 0% chance you're going to play pro. And everybody out there just, I guess, thinks, like, I never either. They're the one one considered it. I was like, I will. I just hope my kids are on the team in high school and like, or in sports is a fun thing in their life. I have never even considered college thinking, your kid's gonna go pro. You better have like a superstar. But yeah, these people are constantly filming the, the arguing, the fighting. It is so embarrassing. And I know, again, it's nothing new. You'll see a million pieces of content out there every day. But I just could never fathom being a person at a game with, like, seven year olds and you're cursing and screaming and picking fights and, like, and because it's not the kids. The kids are fine. I mean, the kids are a little bit, like, spoiled. They do have too much gear, that shit. But for the most part, the kids just want to, like, play ball.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it's the parents and the coaches and they're the real problems. You know, even when we make fun of people are when the whole participation trophy angle was a big thing. The kids are not the ones giving out the participation trophies. That was the parents. That was that generation. So when people. Kids are soft these days, they want participation trophies. Like, they didn't decide to give those out. They just showed up to the field you guys gave them. So I think, you know, kids are always pretty innocent until the technology, the parents, the world gets into them and then they. Everyone's part of the problem. But yeah, it is my thing about soccer. The whole reason soccer even is the thing, the juggernaut that it is, is because you need a ball and, like, some sort of square to kick it into, and the poorest kids in the world could play it. And now it's like two grand to play travel soccer. What could that pot. Where's that money going? Where's that money going?

[Anthony Pompliano]

You need more? No, you need orange slices.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And, you know, yeah, if you.

[Anthony Pompliano]

If.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If that came with, like, cleats and everything you need. But I don't think it does. I think it comes with a ticket to play at your crappy field. And I just put two grand in my pocket because. Why? Because people will pay. Yeah. You know, I. I have a dream of, like, starting my own little league league. And, like, the first rule is going to be no bat can be over 99. If I see the bad, it's 5. There are 500 bats for kids who are 7 years old and are, like, holding the bat. They don't even know how to hold it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

500? Yes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, the. The big bat will be like 499. And so. So no. No bats and no other equipment. You can't have a sliding mitt. You can't wear jewelry. You can't just show up. I used to have, like, a hunk of metal and like, you know, a helmet that probably wouldn't have even worked if I got hit in the head. And that was it. Like, that's how we played. So, yeah, it's gotten absolutely.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, what a store. We all probably grew up on that. I don't even know if it exists anymore. But, like, young kids probably have no clue about is played against sports.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, my God.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Just to go in there.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Not just trigger. I didn't know what you were going to say there. Played against sports. Sports, right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And it was just like, yes. You'd go and you'd buy something that somebody else had already used. And it was awesome because your parents will let you get extra because it was cheaper than if you went to, you know, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There is an app. I can't remember the name, but One of the, one of the other baseball dads once was like, don't spend the 500 bucks. You can get it for like a hundred over here. A little bit used. So there is some app that I think is pretty successful, but it's just like the whole world is just, if I can make money off of you, I will. And I think there used to be a little. It's always that way, especially in capitalism in America. But I feel like there used to be some discretion.

[Anthony Pompliano]

The other thing about youth sports that I think is gonna be fascinating is have you seen these apps where they're using AI to like track the kids on the field yet?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wow.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So like what they'll do. So like, let's say you're a college football, you know, coach, you're watching game tape of your own players, right. What they're starting to do now is they'll say like, okay, almost like a video game. Yeah, you get the circle around the, like the, the feet of the video game player follows and they're like, follow. Right. Very cool. But now it's coming into youth sports. I've seen multiple people that have young kids who are posting on Instagram and they're like, like, here's my kid, like playing soccer or playing football or whatever. And it's following where they are. So one, it does help visually to see where they are, but it's also measuring like how fast they're running.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What was my kids top speed of the game like?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Okay. I remember going to college, I played football in college and I remember the coach used to say they would measure how many steps for every five yards. If you took two steps in the five yards, that meant you ran at least a four.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Six.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Four, six or faster.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We'll just extrapolate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I have no clue if that's actually true or not, but that's what they used to say. So like now they have like technology,

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

but at least that's college. We're talking. You're tracking your like 7 year old running on the soccer field.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, dude, top speed.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Top speed. I mean, it is a weird thing because I, I fall, I fall victim to it also. It's like if my kid hits a home run or does something cool or my girl's on stage dancing her solo, like, I want to film that. And I. And, and we use social media to like show our lives, but inherently it's also like, who gives a about your kid, dude? Like, I don't want to watch that. You know?

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, one of the Things about the surveillance, though, that has, I think, been put some people's brain in a blender is take like cop body cams. So if I remember correctly, the body cams were actually instituted because it was like, the cops are beating people up, the cops are planting things, the cops are XYZ thing. The cops are bad. And it's. I think that the body cams have done more to help the cops.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

A lot of people are like, well, that guy was being an. Like, that guy or just like island or dangerous or whatever.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Just like, what you're saying is not true. The cop did not plant that. Like, the cop opened your bag and you had drugs.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's true, man. I mean, it can help. It's like if you are a good cop. Yeah. You should. You should want the body cam. Not only because you're not doing anything wrong, but you're going to prove and you're going to show. Sometimes I see those and I. I have more respect for them. Like, like, damn. Like, that was. That was confrontational. That was dangerous. That was probably scary. And it was just like a traffic stop and it wasn't anything crazy. But yeah, there are definitely times I see that footage and it makes me. It's probably having the opposite effect of what the people who posted think it's going to.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Did you see the cop who shot the guy with the sword in the subway a couple weeks ago? Oh, dude, this, this, like, this one

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

really not the most like New York.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So. No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The guy in the silver with the sword and the s. He got shot by the cops.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So, like, I think what happened is this guy, he had like, slashed two people or something. And so he's in the subway. It's at Grand Central. And the body cam footage I saw is the cops got his gun out and he's basically like, put the sword down, man. Put the sword down. And he's like, obviously, like, it's getting, like, more and more ratcheted up. And there's like people in the background who are like, oh, there's a cop with a gun and the guy with a sword. Like, I'm getting out of here. Right? And the cop is like, come on, man, put the gun or put the sword down. Put the sword down. And at some point he says something to the effect of, put the sword out. I don't want to shoot you. I don't want it. Like. And you can just tell he is in his brain preparing himself.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Gonna have to shoot this guy.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yes. And he's walking towards him with the sword and he's, by the way, he's yelling like, shoot me. Or, you know, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And he's like, essentially begging the guy, don't make me shoot you. I do not. I did not come to work today with like, let's go shoot somebody.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But you're like, I don't know, man. That guy's got a sword. Who. If I remember correctly, he's already slashed two people and he is moving towards

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

you like, like, what else are you supposed to do?

[Anthony Pompliano]

It's as open and close as possible. You don't try to disarm them.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so you're like, watch this. And again, people will be like, oh, you should have shot him in the leg or this or whatever nonsense.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I. I feel like they always say, like, if you're gonna shoot, if you're gonna fire it, like, you got to make it count. So. And so we don't know how, you know, people act like, I don't know all the details. Engagement for when you're in, you know. All I know is that when you.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I watched it, my personal reaction was this cop, everything he did was against his own, like, what he wanted to do.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But that body cam, it made me feel sorry for the police officer who was like, this is my job. I'm here. Like, thank God it's me as the police officer with training and all this stuff than, like, some random dude who's gotta, like, disarm a guy with a sword. Right. But also, you're like, what are you, you know, what would you do in that situation? And so, like, the technology, in a weird way, it actually, like, gave tons of context to what would have other just been a headline like, Cop Shoot Guy with swords.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

She said, like, you have no idea. Yeah, I mean, I. I always think about, like, the. The one bad apple type argument, but it's like, yeah, the vast majority of these guys are going to work, like, thinking, you know, I might pull somebody over for a ticket. And all of a sudden, you're involved in a subway sword fight. What? But that's also why I would just never be a cop. It's a crazy job. Who makes that?

[Anthony Pompliano]

And. And the other thing is, do you know when you turn on the body cams that it goes back like 30 or 60 seconds? So if you're a copy and let's say because you can turn them on. Right. But it's always, like, kind of recording, I believe.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And so when you hit it off, it's capturing, but I guess it's like

[Anthony Pompliano]

auto deleting or something. Right. But like, let's say that you come up on a scene so you hit it and I think you're supposed to like hit it when you get in a car.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's like all these rules. Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But it goes back 60 seconds and it starts the like saving the recording from that. So I saw one time a video of a guy who 100% planted drugs, like threw it in the grass and

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

then picked up was like, I found it and then turned it on and I caught that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Oh. But then it was like, no, dude, like you forgot that he has a 60 second delay or whatever. And they're like, you're gonna get in trouble for this. But again, it goes back to like having the body cam was actually a positive thing for this guy who was like, no, dude, he planted the drugs.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I mean that, that I like body cam should just be on all. Why is he even an on and off option?

[Anthony Pompliano]

I don't know. I guess maybe it's only time you're turning it off.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I guess there are some practical. But like if you were turning it on and off, there's probably a reason why you don't want it to be.

[Anthony Pompliano]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What who says? Who says? The whole world, man.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah. So, like, what do you hear from people, like in their everyday lives about just inflation, affordability, gas, groceries.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think the main. I guess not more. It's not as much day to day like gas and groceries, which are just like a pain in the ass and through the roof. Roof. But my generation was so obsessed with the idea of, or were told to be obsessed with the idea of owning a home. And I just, I mean, I'm very lucky to be in the position I was where I could, if I didn't get. If I didn't work at barstool and I just kind of continued as an accountant, like, I probably would have been able to afford one, but not great. And it probably would have wiped me out and it would have been, you know, and it's like when you just see how much housing's gone up and how much salaries have gone up, I mean, that's it. There's. You know what I mean? It used to be somewhat comparable. It's like, I remember, you know, my. I think my dad was making like 90 grand in like the early 90s. My mom, I don't think was working. That was enough. We like family of four or five of us, buy a house, have a backyard, a pool now, you know, and I guess, you know, living in New York is pretty extreme, but I just don't get how anybody could do it. And I think I would have just abandoned the idea of being a homeowner if I. If I didn't have the job I had. And I wasn't lucky the way I was, I think I would just rent. Like, this is not a possibility.

[Anthony Pompliano]

One of the things that I find interesting is if you do the math, it's not clear that always buying the home is the right financial decision.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that's what that was. What beaten into us.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

In my generation of just like, renting is stupid. You don't own anything. At the end of the day, you're flushing your money down the toilet. And I really did think that. And now I'm like, yeah, wait a minute. Wouldn't it kind of just be like a mortgage versus rent and you have a super and someone to take care of everything and, you know, like, when

[Anthony Pompliano]

I first Bought maybe I don't want to own anything.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Honestly, owning is just more. My whole life is just like, I just don't want responsibility. And then I went and got kids and a house and it's like all I have is responsibility now. But you know, like the first time I, I owned a house, everyone was saying, oh, it's going to cost a lot to maintain that. And I'm thinking like, I'll figure out how to do the landscaping, whatever, you know. And then, nope, a tree falls down and it's like, that'll be $15,000 to get those two trees removed. Otherwise the next one's going through your living room. So I'm like, oh, okay, that sounds bad. Thousand dollar bill I didn't expect. And like, and this pops up and that pops up and it is, yeah, it's, it feels impossible. Especially I'm in Westchester, New York. I mean trying to, if you, if you want a school, if you want a house in a school district with a good school, you have to be rich, you have to be successful.

[Anthony Pompliano]

How much do you think those houses are?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I'm in the Bronxville area and that again, that's extreme. That's like, you know, Roger Goodell lives there. I think it's like one of the most expensive neighborhoods.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You and Roger are boys.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, in my never ending battle with Dave, the, the best thing I could do for content would be boys with Roger Goodell. Just like going out to dinner with a mate. Dave. But I mean, you know, the taxes there are like 50 grand a year and the houses are, you know, decent for like $2 million. And it's like, it's a home, but it is not, you know, a two million dollar house. When I was growing up, if you told me that your house was $2 million, you're, you're Michael Jordan, you're a professional athlete. Like, and yeah, so I, I just,

[Anthony Pompliano]

you have a basketball court inside the house actually.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, right. I, I, and maybe again this is to go back to what I was saying earlier, there's going to be one generation in the transitional period that this like blows their mind. But you know, the, the even just the phrase like you're a millionaire, that does not mean what, what it used to mean. You can have a couple million bucks and it, depending on where you live and what your lifestyle is, ain't gonna get it done.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Have you seen recently the, the conversations online about there's people make a million dollars in New York City, but they're living paycheck in your, they're like, that's, that's crazy. That's crazy. Whatever. And the breakdown that I saw was like, all right, so make a million dollars. Half of it goes to the government right out of the period. Okay, so 500k. Still, that is a ton of money. Five times more than your dad was making, you know, as in the 90s. Right. But then people start say, okay, well I need a two bedroom because I have three kids plus, you know, my wife. All right, that means that's going to be $9,000. Well, well, hold on. That's 20% of, you know, just for shelter.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Okay. Then they're like, and then groceries and this and that. And oh, by the way, I want my kid to go to a private school. Well, there's all the money, it's gone.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, and, and you know, I'm not, I, I'm sure there are people out there way less fortunate who say, well, that, that's my dream. I would love that. I understand that. But for when you. That used to be an amount of money that would get you your dream life and it is getting you a house and your kids school. That's it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, and for context for people, I actually think that there's this very weird thing in New York where you can get two good experiences. You can go to a private school, you can get a great experience, or you can go to a public school and get a great experience as well. And I think that people who are like, oh, all public education is like horrible. They're dumb. And I think people who are like, all private education is like elitist, whatever, like they're dumb too. So it's like there's this like stratification. But the private schools in New York City to send your kid to, I don't know, middle school. 70 grand. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, the Sunday numbers are absolutely nuts. When I started, when my kids hit like, I guess pre K, like preschool, and I got an email saying tuition is due. And I was like, tuition? Can we, can we at least just call it something different? Because I'm thinking tuition is college. I'm paying for college. Maybe a private high school. I'm paying tuition for a four year old and it's thousands for you to paint macaroni things and like go there for a couple hours. You're a glorified babysitter. I'm paying you $5,000. And I mean especially in New York, in Westchester, it is, you know, you're paying the taxes of a town with a good public school or you're Paying the tuition of a private school and it's, you know, kind of pick your poison. And I was kind of of the school of, of of thought that in the Westchester area, all these schools have, you know, this is a blue ribbon school. This is rated 9 out of 10. And I'm like, what are these? Because I grew up in this area, I've been to all these schools. They all seem like pretty comparable. But then I start to learn like, well, Ivy League schools take a bigger percentage from these schools and not those schools. And it's like, I always hate. My main thing that I hate is to kind of give in to the rat race and some of the things that I'm morally opposed to. But what am I going to do, like, not give my kids a chance, the best chance they can to live their life. So you got to play by those rules. But man, some of them seem like these are just, if not designed to, they inherently keep the little guy down or don't give anybody a shot unless you are like, really successful.

[Anthony Pompliano]

One of the funniest things that I've seen recently is a friend of mine. He's got kids, probably 3 years old, and he was applying to go to like preschool or whatever. And he said that he was getting interviewed. He was getting interviewed and then he was like, yeah, so if, if, if they need to like a reference, will you do it? And I was like, you want me to be a reference for your 3 year old? He goes, no, no. He goes, no, not for the three old, for me. I was like, wait a minute. They're gonna call and they're gonna call me and ask me if you're good so that their, your three year old can go to their school. I said, man, your whole family's got to be.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

In order to get your kid into preschool.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I said, I don't know what the details of this school are, but sounds like I should be, maybe I should go, you know, sign some of these kids to nil deals or something already.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I need to get into some sort of charter school business and charge these parents whatever I want. I was like, this is crazy when it, when it comes down to parental stuff and for your kids. Like, I, I do feel pressure of like, well, if I don't pay this or enroll in this, like I'm harming my kids and it shouldn't be that way, but it just kind of is like I don't know how to, I don't even, I wouldn't even know how to begin to fix it. Like there's so many problems in this world that I'm like, I can't even

[Anthony Pompliano]

think of a solution on the homeownership thing. One of the things I do find interesting though is maybe people under the age of 35, there's still a lot of folks that I know who they, they want to be in a position to be able to afford a home, which is some marker of like, financial success, but they are like, but I don't want to own the home because I actually enjoy working remotely, traveling, you know, having flexibility. Like all this stuff. It's like, it is this weird, like the boomer narrative of like, everyone should own a home. And then there's a bunch of people who are like, no, lifestyle wise, I don't actually want to own a home.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So then, then don't do it, you know?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or, or get married, have kids. Like, there are just like three or four major life things. Things that I feel like I, I was never even explicitly taught it. It was just like, this is the way it goes. And so I did everything at the right time I was supposed to, when I should have recognized, like, for myself. And I'm sure other people out there have different scenarios, but similar. Of like, my life is kind of going down this alternative path with the Internet and barstool and all that. So I, I'm probably not going to fall into those traditional buckets, but I tried to like, live a normal life anyway and kind of all got jacked up. Not right fit it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What did your parents think when you told them about barstool?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They were, they were outwardly supportive and inwardly like, are you out of your goddamn mind?

[Anthony Pompliano]

But you stayed at the, at the audit firm or whatever for the first couple years.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So I was at Deloitte and Barstool.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What a sellout.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, dude, it was. I. My Deloitte story is like my favorite thing. So it was like, I won. I like stuck it to the man. I get this job that I have no business getting in the first place.

[Anthony Pompliano]

An auditor.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was a weird. It was. We called it agreed upon procedures instead of an audit. And I wasn't a traditional. Like, I didn't go client to client. We stayed in one office and we just worked on whatever monthly CDOs were given to us. Sounds like nerd shit in Total nerd shit. And I was terrible at it and I hated it. But it was in 0809 and it was the exact financial instrument that was bringing down the economy was what I was working on.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And maybe those two things are Related.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And so, and I know I don't know what I'm doing, doing every day. I was like, I don't know any of this. And then, and then I go home and I see like, CNBC is like collateralized debt obligations is ruining America. And I was like, did I start the recession like this? This might be my, I think I'm like 1% responsible for the recession. So. But I, I knew I was terrible at it and I started my own blog just for fun. And that's when Dave saw that right when he was looking to expand. And long story short, he wasn't able to, to pick just one person. So I worked Barstool part time and Deloitte part time for two years.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Did Deloitte. No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But Deloitte didn't know I was working as a blogger and the blog readers didn't know I had a job. And I was talking like, oh, I, I used to be an accountant. They didn't know I was like actively in account.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Well, hold on. You said that you worked part time at Deloitte. Did Deloitte know you were part time?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, no, it was a full time job. I'm saying, like, I, yeah, yeah, I got you. It was, is actually the perfect storm. I, if I had any other job, I don't think I'm at Barstool because this job, it was paying well out of college and I had benefits. My parents were like, you're set. Don't worry. Don't do anything stupid. But the way that job worked was you get all your work for the be, it goes monthly. You get all your work for the month up front. Oh. And they were like, as, as long as you get it done, you get it done. And it mostly was, was evenly spread out, but right around like the 15th would be, would be crazy. So I would stay late, I would go nuts. But then I was free to block. Like, I just had my desk. Like, nobody would check in on you if you got your work done.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So I would just blog from my desk and I ended up just like getting double paychecks for a few years. I got severance. They were like, you're so bad, we're going to transfer you to a new, new department. And I was like, no, thank you. And they were like, no, no, you're not understanding. Like, if we don't transfer you, you're getting fired. And I was like, cool. And then you won't do it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You won't do it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So I, I, I kind of gamed the system on that one. As best I could, I'm always like, like, I stuck it to the man.

[Anthony Pompliano]

When. When you think about the rise of barstool, the. The one aspect of it that's always hilarious to me is like, there was the newspaper, then there was like a blog. Now it's just like free run on Twitter.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And ether. Yeah. There's no form, but it's just like.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I think all of us grew up in an age where it became not taboo to just say whatever was on your mind. And if you look back, actually the people who just said the truth or said what they were thinking, they're the people who accumulated the audiences. Everyone else who was like, oh, I can't say that because my job would

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

like, authenticity reigns supreme, man. It always has, always will. But I feel like we're in an era right now, especially with AI and the algorithm and people just. It used to be I'm going to do something interesting, cool. And I'm passionate about it and that will translate and that's why it will grow. And now it's like, what does the algorithm already reward? I'm going to do that. It's just a whole copycat league, you know. And there.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Let me ask this. This is actually an interesting way to think about it. You listen to podcasts?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, some of them.

[Anthony Pompliano]

When's the last time you found a really interesting new podcast? I think it's very hard to find.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Get kind of set.

[Anthony Pompliano]

New podcast, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so like, I don't know, I've gone through different like seasons if you. I used to listen to Joe Rogan a ton and then it's just like, okay, cool. I get it. Every once in a while he's a guest. Like, I'll listen. You know, Taylor Sheridan was on recently. Excellent episode, awesome. Then there's similar genre. So like the Sean Ryan's of the world. You're crush.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Three hour episodes, all stuff. Then you've got like business podcasts. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Or whatever. But I started thinking the other day, I'm like, I don't know, maybe once a year, maybe once every six months, I find a new podcast.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's. I mean, the whole industry has exploded to a level of like, I don't think that that happens anymore. Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But I find a new Twitter account.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

True.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Every day or every other day.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because it's. But it's also. It's just more of a commitment. I read your tweet. It looks fine. I follow you, whatever. Whereas like, am I gonna not. I'm gonna listen to you for 30 minutes. An hour, two hours. But more importantly, are you good enough that I am not going to listen to Joe Rogan and Sean Ryan? I feel like when I started, especially started podcasting, I started in 2012, it was, you know, you could buy the equipment and start, and if you had a good friend dynamic and you just were funny, it works. You could be success. That was me, you know, now it's like, are you gonna listen to me and my buddies, or you're gonna listen to your favorite basketball players who are now telling all the secrets of the NBA? The rappers who get together, talking about being on tour. Everyone's an entertainer. It's like it became Hollywood, where, you know, growing up, I would have never said I'm gonna act in movies because I know I'm not Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm not George Clooney. Clooney. But you could be like, I, I, you know, I can be a podcaster. And it's true. You get your equipment, you get it out there, people like it. I don't think that's the case anymore, man. It's like, why should I listen to you when there's a lot more intriguing and interesting people? I mean, you have to either be a star, a real talent, or have some sort of angle. You're either grandfathered in, a Nepo baby, whatever it is, for people to tune into your life, like two hour podcast.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I also don't know how much the audiences move. Right. Like that. That's always interesting to me. Where, let's say you've got a really big podcast and you, like, vouch for somebody.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Not like it used to. I mean, look at Rogan. If you got on rogan20, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, your, your, your career is made.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Andrew Schultz talked about it. He's like, dude, this. He's like, look, Schultz is hilarious, right? And like, substance wise, he's a. But I. He's publicly talked about it. He's like, joe Rogan was incredibly important for my rise in my career. Yep. Rogan, maybe he's still like one of one and so he can still kind of king make a little bit, but there's not many people like that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I mean, Joe will for sure give you a boost no matter what, but, like, yeah, he could take you out of obscurity and make you like a superstar with, like, just a mention. You know, the, the, the, the sushi chef he rolls with, Philip Franklin Lee. He was like, I had a food truck at a festival. Joe ate one. He said, hey, can I get a reservation at your restaurant. And he was like, oh, I don't actually have a restaurant here. It's just a food truck. Truck. He was like, if you open a restaurant, I will plug it. So this guy, just on a, like,

[Anthony Pompliano]

on a. I didn't realize on a

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

promise, opened a sushi. Sushi restaurant in Austin. Joe talked about it and he was like, I was booked for six straight months, like, and now my career is. And I think Joe might have anybody. I keep saying Joe, but I think the king makers, I think might have a easier time anointing, like, go to this restaurant.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Versus, like, go listen to this other content. Because, like, I'm listening. Listening to you, man. I don't wanna. I ran into that with my podcast. We. We hit the. The comedy revolution at the right time. We. I like to. I would like to think we were part of it as well. And all of these really funny guys coming on the show and they at that point were pretty undiscovered. They were on their way. But, you know, getting Schultz on the rise, getting Chris Stefano when they're on the Come up. And my, My podcast was successful as a result. But then they all started their own podcast and it's like they used to only be able to get it from me or a couple other guests, hosts, and now they have their own thing. And I actually wish I. My big regret is I wish I saw that writing on the wall a little bit more because had I thought to myself, we're on a good run right now, but this is going to end because of that. Let's start to pivot. I think we would have been in better position. Instead we just kind of held on as long as we could, but.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah. You think AI could do the podcast? Like, is AI going to replace a lot of the content?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, I started looking into AI in terms of like, like production and editing and there's a couple good companies out there. The one we. I was really working in, like, looking into was Opus, and they have a great product for, like, if you don't have a producer, this will listen to the show and it'll identify the good moments and it'll clip it and subtitle it and all that stuff for you. But it always, like, just. There's just a limit. At least at this iteration. It doesn't quite get humor yet. It doesn't get like, like, it can. It can sense when somebody was yelling on the podcast, but was that really funny? And so there's still, I think when it comes to content, the creator still really does matter because if, if the edit couldn't even be like fully done, I don't think it can just produce.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Do you watch any of the like AI influencers on Instagram?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't like seek them. I've seen them before. But I think you're insane if you like follow that and watch that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, that's not. And it's usually like some hot girl that's clearly fake and just kind of.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I've seen Jewish rabbis. I've seen Italian mafia men.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what? Maybe I've seen and I don't realize.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You don't realize.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's the other thing, man. I like, I love when, when, when the second. When the video of Alex Preddy came out, that was kind of like damning of his behavior and everyone just automatically, that's AI. That's fake. And I, I had posted it and people were killing me for it. And then it turned out to be real. And it's like the new, the new I was hacked or whatever is like, that's AI. Remember something happened.

[Anthony Pompliano]

People used to say that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

People still say that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

It's like, dude, oh, my Twitter account got hacked. It was 3 o' clock in the morning and here's a picture of you on the flock camera drinking last night.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it's like, what else happened during this alleged hack? They just logged in and sent one tweet and that's it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, get out of here.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But yeah, I.

[Anthony Pompliano]

That happened to be at the person talking shit to you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? But I, you know, I don't even pretend if I get it wrong. I'm like, how? I'm not like a film expert. It's. It's fake. I'm sorry I got duped.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, the best one you who should have said they got hacked was Paul Pierce with the live stream. If he, if he had somehow come up stream.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that wasn't me, man.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, like, hey man, what. What happened there? Somebody hacked my phone. I feel like that was one of the like, like, wait, what is going. Cuz wasn't it like two o' clock in the afternoon on like a Tuesday?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He was just like loaded drunk. I get out. He's. He's a great. But that like, you can't Even if AI gets to the point where it really can understand humor and conversation, you're not going to get like a wild moment. The AI is never going to be like, all right, now let me say something crazy and controversial to go viral. And like that has to be a human like, oh, I fucked up. I Shouldn't have said that. And that's why we, like, live, and that's why we, like authenticity, like, content. I don't think you can do that yet, but I don't know. Who knows?

[Anthony Pompliano]

So from all these things, like, we talk about housing, we talk about, like, all the technology, what AI can do, can't do humanoid robots. I think it's like, what. Sign me up. You're in.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Give me that. Jetson's life. What was her name? Betty. That little, like, the. I saw something.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Did you put one in your house?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I. I jokingly say I would. And I'm, like, lazy enough and hate, like, housework enough, that if you told me, like, this thing can do your dishes and, like, vacuum the floor, I'd be like, I'll do that. But then I think about, like, the flock cameras and everything we were discussing, where it's like, that thing will be hacked and spying on you in two seconds.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Do you have, like, an Amazon or Alexa or anything like that?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't. I. I think my TV has it, like, enabled, but I don't. I don't use that. I don't. I don't. I don't use any of that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What about the, like, cleaning robot? Like a Roomba?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't have one, but I would.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You would it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I guess when you start to think that, like, anything's hackable, I don't know.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Well, what's room? I don't know. Bite your ankle. I chase you around.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's listening or something. I'm giving out my secrets. I don't know.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, but, like, that's the thing, right? It's like, there's a lot of people who have the Alexas. There's a lot of people who have, like, the Roombas or whatever. So, like, isn't the humanoid kind of just, like. I mean, yeah, sure, it's got arms.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that's what I'm saying. Like, when. When Roomba came out, we weren't like, this is crazy. Stop.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, no, people were like, clean my house.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. And so. But now, you know, maybe me and you are a little uncomfortable with, like, this human thing walking around. But again, that's a small generation. We're gonna kick the bucket. And then the people who were grow raised in a world where there's humanoids in your house. It's just normal.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, it's normal. I saw there's a, like, Roomba competitor. I think it's called Matic, if I remember correctly. And I saw that when. When you get one, they send Stickers. But the stickers make. You can put it on in certain places, and it makes it look like it's a dollar dog.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Man, we're getting weird, dude. Think. I think about this all the time. What do you. What do you.

[Anthony Pompliano]

By the way, if they send the stickers, you got to put them on, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Gotta have a robot dog. What do you think is going on right now that we will look back on society will look back on us thinking, like, they were so stupid. They. You know, when we were like, can you believe they used to think that the Earth was the center of the universe?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like there's something going on right now that we all. All think as logical, intelligent people. Like, this is 100 the case. That's gonna be fake, right?

[Anthony Pompliano]

A bunch of stuff.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What do you think? What do you think? Like, the main.

[Anthony Pompliano]

One of the big ones is they let humans be the doctors or.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or the drivers, too. Yeah, people. You're gonna let the robots drive the car. They're gonna go. You let the humans 100 drive, you know, a 5, 000 pound vehicle. A hundred mile.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What do you. While they're texting and doing this. Yeah, you know, whatever, Right? So, like that, the doctors.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You should do surgery with your hands instead of lasers.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Have I not told you the story of. I have two young twin boys, and they would probably still be here without AI but there's a very good chance that there could have been a different decision. My. My wife.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What a setup.

[Anthony Pompliano]

My wife was pregnant. We knew that it was twins, but she goes to get checked and they do the scan and I'm there. And the doctors, you know, it's like dark in the room. She puts down the scanner, turns on the lights, and she sits down, says, we need to have a conversation. And I'm like, here we go, right? What do we need to have a conversation about? And she's basically like, all right, so you have twins. There is no membrane wall between the twins, so they're in the same, like, sack. And there's one placenta. I'm not a doctor. I don't know shit about babies other than. She then says, this is about the highest risk twin situation that we could have.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

That doesn't sound great.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Great news. Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So I immediately, you know, I'm a problem solver. I go to like, so what's the solution?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? Get another membrane in there.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So she's like, pretty much almost everybody who's in this situation would terminate the pregnancy. You met my wife is just like, you know, it's distraught. All this stuff, whatever, right? And it was like, it was the first scan. So, like, that's supposed to be, you know, this, like, great memory and, like, also.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Especially for her. And so we leave. I'm like, I don't even know what conversation to have. You know, I'm trying to console her. All this stuff, whatever. So when you leave the scan for anyone who hasn't had before, they give you the, like, sonogram or whatever, like, pictures.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so my wife takes it and she takes a picture. She puts it in Chat GPT and she says, the doctor told me, blah, blah, blah, whatever. What do you see? And chat GPT comes back and says, goes, no, looks fine. There's only one placenta. But the membrane wall is, like, in between the two babies. Because, like, there was like, definitely, like,

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm not a doctor, but, like, I

[Anthony Pompliano]

don't know, there's like a line. Like, what's the line? And so my wife then takes it. She circles and draws an arrow to the thing and uploads it back into, like, the doctor portal and is like, hey, just out of personal curiosity, like, what's this before I go killing my babies? Like, right? And so the doctor calls her and basically is like, I'm so sorry, I must have been distracted. I don't know what I was looking at. Blah, blah, whatever. Like, yes, that is the memory. Oh, thank God. It's still, you know, higher risk, but it's not as risky as, you know, if that wasn't there, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I was like, so, first of all, big mistake.

[Anthony Pompliano]

First of all, you are not the doctor anymore.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Malpractice, you're out. We're a doctor for anybody.

[Anthony Pompliano]

We're going to go find a different.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Could you imagine, man? And you would have never even known because you would have, like, never followed up. You probably would have just had that. And.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And it's always like, you know, you don't know what you would have done. Like, I think just like, morally right, we wouldn't have made any different decision. We've been like, look, we're going to go forward with this, you know, and have the babies and, like, we'll see what happens, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But, like, I don't know if I. I don't know if that'd be the case for me.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, but I'm like, wait a minute. A lot of people are like, oh, AI this that. I'm like, no, no, dude. Every single person who goes to the doctor, you should take whatever the doctor tells you and feed it into one of these systems and be like, like, are they right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? Cuz you don't know. Having a bad day, they're going through their own trauma, they're drunk, I don't know, whatever, like, or they're just dumb or there's bad.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, there's bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

D. Yo, that's, that's my biggest problem with the world is it started when I myself was working on the, as an accountant and I was like, this is some pretty important stuff. And, and they're relying on me, a 22 year old, like, and I don't know what I'm doing. And then even like the, the managers and the people who, who I worked with were getting promoted and people were making partner and I was like, person's dumb. So I witnessed it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You play the game well, but you are stupid.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, that's how I was so bad at my job. And because the recession was happening, everyone was getting laid off. And I kept making it to the point that people were kind of getting mad. They were like, I'm getting fired, but Kevin's still there. And it was because I, you know, I could have a beer and talk with a partner. And like, so some people got brains,

[Anthony Pompliano]

some people, they know how to work the system.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's just, you know, that's different strokes

[Anthony Pompliano]

are different, different folks.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? But, but what I've learned is like every profession, every job, there's somebody who's just like, snake it till you make it. I don't really know what I'm doing. But when you're talking about doctors and lawyers and some of the people who have like your life in their hands, if they're having a snake it till you make it day, that's, that's, that's, that's not acceptable. It's crazy.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I, I just like, I, I now am like, all right, this AI stuff, there's a bunch of probably negative side effects over time, blah, blah, blah, whatever, ever. Every single person goes to the doctor

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

that happens to you once, that erases the other 10,000 mistakes it might make. So I also don't have, I, I, I don't know exactly how it works, but sometimes I feel like it's a mirror to like, who's using it. Because when I hear the stories of it, like hallucinating and saying crazy things and telling me to like, take my own life and all those wild extreme.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What did you say to it?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, I always have very, I just like ask it a question, gives me an answer. And maybe sometimes I'LL question it and they'll be oh, actually you're right. But I've never experienced that where so I'm like, I don't know what you guys are putting in there.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I always wonder if somebody's like it made me run into the wall. And then you're like what did you say to it? You're like tell me to run into the wall.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And also at some level you have to have your own human brain. It's like the episode of the Office where they drive into the lake cuz GPS said so. Like just cuz a computer says something, you don't have to stop, right? Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You have to carry a thing around.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, like, like this whole idea of it used to be outside of whether it's computer. Like we see all the glasses now. Yep, we see. Here's a crazy stat for you. I saw online that neuralink, you know, Elon's like brain computer interfaces thing. They've implanted it in 26 people. I thought we were on like number two.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And how come we haven't heard like from them or hopefully, hopefully it's not

[Anthony Pompliano]

because they went bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But like we're on the 26th person. That's a way bigger number than I

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

thought that should be. I mean, I'm sure they're not going to document it until they know it's all good. But imagine if there was an account that was just like, follow me. The first neural linked human.

[Anthony Pompliano]

There is one. There is out of that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And he's just talking about how it works. Works. Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I forget what he posts. But like there's the, the one guy who is the first one. He's definitely been like doing media and stuff. But the one I saw, the club I saw was the 26th person. Because like here, here's a good question. How many people have to have the neural link implanted in their brain safely? And then you're like, fine, I'll do it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think it's gotta. I don't know if, I don't know if I'd do it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like if a million people and they were like, you, you will be smarter, you'll make more money, you'll do all these things. A million other people have done it and it's all been safe.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have you seen this show, Pluribus? No, it's. It's Vince Gilligan from Breaking Bad's new show and that this is basically the plot is. It's either. I don't think we really know. I think it's like an alien collective comes down and there's like a. They basically put out a virus that makes you join this hive mind. And there's 11 people on the planet left that didn't. It just didn't work for them. And the people who have this new, you know, whatever are like, this is amazing. Like, it's great. We live in peace and paradise. We all like work for each other, but help each other. You and, and so they're working on like, how can we figure out how. We don't want to leave the other 11 behind. We want you to join the hive. And the main character, the pro protagonist is like fighting for human. You know, it's actually a little on the nose with like AI versus humanity, the whole show. But she's like, I'm not doing it. And she has, she's talking to her wife who is now a part of the hive, and she's like, please, like, come with us. It's your wife saying this to you. And. But it's not because it's not her brain, you know, and so she. These characters, these like 11 people, like Dig their heels in. It's like billions. And they're the last one standing. And I, I, everybody who watches the show, I ask them, would you join or not? And it's like, I'd like to think I would be like, no, I gotta keep my humanity. But if I'm. If I'm one of the last ones left, I'm jumping off the bridge too. But if, but if it's like not the whole world and like there's plenty.

[Anthony Pompliano]

That's what I'm saying. A million, like, I always go to like, if a million people have done it safely, would you do it? I don't know. I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's almost more to me. Is everyone in my circle doing it? I don't care of a million people who I never like. But if it's like my whole life is going to be this way and I'm the only one not, I would probably do it out of like. I don't want to be the pain in the ass who's ruining it for the group. I'm so non confrontational that I guilted into it. Yeah, me a. You guys all got lobotomies. Do it to me too. I don't want to be the odd man out, but that is a great question because it's, you know, what is the tipping point? And if someone says not no to a million. 1.52. 2.5. Does it have to be 20? Well, if it's 20, why not 19 million? What? You know, it's like.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Or imagine now, okay, you go to high school, you're competing against kids who

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

have it and yeah, you, you don't.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Did you, you seen this yet? There's been an explosion of parents giving their kind of like puberty age.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Kids HGH when they're, when like there's no need for it. It's not like you're medically like they're

[Anthony Pompliano]

hitting their growth spurts and they're just giving their little. But. And they're like in some cases doing it with like doctor supervision, all this stuff and everything. But it is helps them grow taller, bigger athletic advantage, you know, all this stuff and you're just like, well that's

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

probably one of those things that 500 years from now they're going to go, go, you guys didn't take the medication that makes you better and healthier or you out of your mind.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, it's kind of crazy, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like I, I think of that as kind of dystopian and like sci fi and unfair and. But it's, it's like steroids too. It's, you know, I remember all the major league baseball players being like, well, I had to do it to keep up with the guys who were doing it. So it becomes this rat race.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Remember when Mark McGuire. And then we're like, we're not doing it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Mark McGuire did the smartest thing ever was he put Andrew, which was like a loud creatine, front and center in his locker. So he'd be talking and there'd be this tub and he'd be like, oh, that's what I do. It was almost like, I'm going to admit to this. And you know, right behind that are the needles he's putting in. But you know, it's a fine lines

[Anthony Pompliano]

like the skinny dude and then he just became this head monster crow.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I think about that all the time. If I was Barry Bonds, they always say Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer. Without it, I'm good, good. But if you're like a prospect who like might make the league and might make like a five million dollar contract or you'll flame out and play in like a Mexican league and then disappear

[Anthony Pompliano]

or work at Wendy's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? Or yeah, nothing at all. Like, and then you get caught, you get kicked out. But you made like 2 million bucks. Even if it's just a couple million bucks, it's like, I don't, I don't, I don't think I could stop myself from that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah. And I do think that there's something weird about as people have gotten to understand this stuff better. There's obviously like crazy stuff, whatever. Like, you know what scares the hell out of me is psychedelics. Did you see the bodybuilder recently? The 31 year old bodybuilder? So there's a 31 year old kid who's like very popular online. I'd never heard of him before, but you know, he had big counts and stuff. He went to Thailand and the report that initially came out is he drowned in a lake. And then like some more details come out. You never like a hundred percent know. So this is all like what people are at least reporting. He like did some sort of video that was a little deranged. There was reports that he was acting deranged. Then he like painted like hit the room he was staying in with like weird stuff. Like there's like a lot of like odd behavior.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And then he supposedly died. But he like. People said they like saw me walk into the lake or something. Something.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that was he on like toxicology report showed he was on a psychedelic or something.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I don't know if it's toxicology or people like he was on like a psychedelic like, like going there for the second. I don't know all the details, but just like I heard enough.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, I like Luigi. But then I've also heard these, these other stories of people who were like, I was a, an addict for like 20 years and I think both are true. Yeah. But, but what, what always scares me is it's like, like it sounds like whatever headspace you're in is kind of you had a bad trip because you're like stressed and anxious and depressed and all that. But it sounds like people use psychedelics to cure those things. I would be worried that all of my bad things that I'm trying to fix would then manifest during.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I always think about if, if you got a good thing going, doing it can only derail you. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I guess if you're.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah. If you got issues, then it's like, like, well, the only thing it could do is help you because you already feel like you're.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know. Or like, you know, you walk into a lake and drown yourself. Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I don't know. There's a lot of veterans who that go. And they, they Say it helps with the PTSD and stuff like that. So like, I. It's why, like, it scares me because it almost feels like it's a little bit of a lottery. Now I have a friend, Christian Auger Meyer, who is. Is very involved in the psychedelic space. He's got a public company, all this stuff. And I think it. If he was here, he would say, well, the bad trips or whatever happen because people are like, irresponsible.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Not to.

[Anthony Pompliano]

No different than like, you know, alcohol is fine, but if you. Yeah, you can kill yourself. You drink too much.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But still, like, that's one of those things where I know I don't know enough. And so it scares me. Same way that, like, the neural link, a million people that I always use that as, like, ah, I'd get interested.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But. But is it. Do you want neural links? Think and you're just afraid.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Imagine.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, see, I don't. I go back and forth too, because there are times I can't remember the bodybuilder's name.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I'd know it right away. I'd be like, bam. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But also does that, like, is that a be careful what you wish for sort of thing? Of course, you realize they can hack

[Anthony Pompliano]

my brain, shut me down.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, but not even. Let's say it all works as it's supposed to and it's like, you know everything now. It's like, nobody likes to forget things. But I don't know, maybe part of I. I'm trying to go the other way. I want to get dumber. I. I think think being ignorant is the best thing in the world. Ignorance is bliss, baby. These people who, who. I'm not saying ignorant like a hateful or racist way, but just like, I think about everything, I wake up and my brain is going. And I'm like, well, what about this? And what is this gonna happen to my kids? And if I don't do this, what about my job? And I'm always thinking, and maybe that's partially why I have ambition and I've had some success. But I'm also like, wouldn't it be nice to just wake up and be like, I don't know, see what happens today? No big deal.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So in 2022, a bunch of business stuff, the whole market started tanking. Crypto, stock, I mean, just everything. And so if you were involved at all in, like, the finance world. Wasn't fun. Yeah, it wasn't fun. And I remember driving the car one day and my wife sitting next to me, and I'm in The driver's seat. Seat. And I look out the window, and there was a guy who worked at a landscaping company. And this is like, kind of like one of these, like, four lane, you know, highways that are. And he is edging the grass next to the. Hell, yeah. Next to, like, the curb. And he's got, like, you know, the orange long sleeve shirt on. He's got the pants, got the boots, and then he's got like the hat with the flap in the back. He's got sunglasses on. Right. He's rocking, talking. And I was just looking at him, and my wife goes, you okay? What are you doing? And I just looked this like, I'm jealous of that guy's simple life all the time. And he pro. He could have had, like, the most stressful life ever. His wife hates him and this and that, like, but in that moment, I was like, I don't know, man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I've had that exact thought.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Edging the lawn sounds pretty good right now.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

When you see, like, a construction crew of guys and they're just kind of hanging and then, you know, they're digging or doing something.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But it's hard work.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The but also. And we see that, and it's amazing. And then they're like, yeah, try it. In February when it's, you know, 10, 10 below when I gotta go outside.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Well, it's funny because I did just see a guy on Instagram, he's got a hard hat on. He goes, boys, let me tell you, let me tell you, whatever you can do. Get one of them desk jobs. And he's got sweat pouring down his face. And he puts his heart. Trust me, trust me. Get one of them desk jobs.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yes.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, I made it through high school. That was it. Get one of them desk jobs, boys. All right, I'll see you later. That's the whole video. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I want to do paperwork. Do you love what you do still?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah, of course. But. But it's just like, I think that everyone has. Everyone has days where it's not even that they don't want to do what they're doing. They always have days of like, what if. What if this other day, like, for one day I could go do something else? Would I enjoy it? Would it be fun? Whatever. And the. The Taylor Sheridan thing he talks about, he was like, on a movie set and. Or he was on the. What's the movie? Or the episodic TV series where they're all the bikers.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

New one or old one?

[Anthony Pompliano]

It's an older. What Stands of anarchy. So he Was like a. Not an A list, you know, actor, but he was on that show, right. And basically everyone else, he, I think, was getting paid, like, 20k per episode. He was getting paid 15, and his agent was telling them, like, you got to pay him 20 just like everybody else. Like, we ain't got the money for that. So, like, he's getting 15 or whatever. So he pretty much was like, why not? And they were like, dude, we could fill that role in five seconds.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You are replaceable.

[Anthony Pompliano]

There's 20 dudes waiting for that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Happy with the 15 inch?

[Anthony Pompliano]

Correct.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So he was like, oh. So he basically was, I'm not doing it. Kind of at a point of pride. And so that's when he was like, well, maybe I should go and become a writer and a producer. And he's at this, like, stratosphere.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The right choice, Taylor.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Correct. Right. So, like, it worked out really well for him, but, like, it takes some balls to be like, I'm on this path. Like, you're in legit TV shows. You're $15,000 an episode would take two days to record the episode. Right. Whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like, you're not struggling for money.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But to still say, like, this thing's good, but I want. Great. I love this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I also think that's a little bit like chicken or the egg. It's like, I think the, the vast majority of us would be like, 15 grand for two days. Like, I'm just gonna shut my mouth.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I might do that today.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But the guy willing to, to buck the trend is also the type of guy who probably will become Taylor Sheridan. You know what? So it's like a little bit in your DNA. If you're even considering telling the studio to off, maybe follow your gut, because that's, that means you're probably one of those guys. I, I, it's, it's so hard to, you know, it's hard to do those things, take a risk, take a. Or, you know, start your own thing or whatever. I think about it with Barcelona all the time.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Like,

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

there's, like, one. But, you know, we've all done pretty well. But it's like, there's probably, like, maybe you can count on one hand total the amount of people that if they were gone, barstool would, like, cease to exist. Otherwise, you are, you are replaceable, man. Like, there's very few people in this world who are not replaceable, whether it's a sports team or a. Whatever you're doing. Don't, don't, don't get it twisted. You're not that special.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know what I just remembered. I can't believe we didn't talk about this in. When did Chernin make the initial investment? 20. 18.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, a little earlier.

[Anthony Pompliano]

17, something like that. Probably 17 or 18 somewhere. Somewhere in that time frame.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And I remember when I read was something to the effect of Chernin is buying like 51% at a $15 million valuation. And I, being a complete moron, went on medium.com and I wrote this whole thing and I said, barstool's gonna be a billion dollar company. And I had like some legitimate math, but I was like, look, this thing. And I knew because I got to school in Northeast, like, I knew, yeah, the, the cultural importance and the like fandom and all this stuff. And I've put a line at the end. And I was like, basically, this is going to happen as long as Dave doesn't sell too early. And I remember that you reached out to me or you had a radio show, something happened and you guys were like, there's some dumbass on the Internet who thinks it's gonna be a billion dollar company. Get that motherfucker in here. What is this guy smoking?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, Dave. Dave was. You were. Dave was saying the same thing. There was a infamous rundown me, Dan. Cats, big cats.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Did he really?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And Dave and he said, there are people in boardrooms right now saying, how can we be more like Barstool? And we were like, no, the. There is no. Because that. And you have to remember at the time we had a blind intern named Blind Mike that Dave was throwing things at him to try to prove whether he was blind or not. There was a squirrel that consistently would eat through the wires. So we had no Internet, you know, just like things like that where it was like normal, normal, normal things. Normal things like what are you. And. And I. We were a little tongue in cheek. Obviously. We were, were. We believed in it because we were. But I did not think it was ever going to be like this. And Dave kind of going back to what I just said, he was smart enough to do this, but also dumb enough or, or crazy enough to be like, we are the ones. And. And then it was a kind of self fulfilling from there because Barstool is. And I'm not just saying this because I'm a part of it. I'm so thrilled that I'm a part of it. But it's the most interesting story like ever. It is one of a kind. It will never happen again. It can't happen again. The timing was perfect. Our Our timing, our Dave's born five years earlier. Five years later. Doesn't happen if Boston starts their dynasty five years earlier or after or they don't start the dynasty at all. Doesn't happen if the Internet does not evolve and become a blog. If we're just a newspaper, it doesn't happen. And those. Those just kept happening. EDM music becomes a thing. Right when we were getting into like college fair, spring weekend type things, and all of a sudden we have a traveling techno festival. And it was just like, like now. I guess we also deserve credit because we were so, like light on our feet, we could pivot and move 100 speed kills, you know. So we took advantage of those things, but they all fell in our lap, man. And even like me, like, I had that job that allowed me to blog on the side, which allowed me to turn it into this, because had I needed to be like, quit your job and do it or don't. If it was. Or get off the pot, I probably at that point I was like, I don't know. I'm making like 75 grand. That's amazing. You know, so all of these things, timing for, like, individuals to the. To the big picture, it was lightning in a bottle. It was. It'll just never happen again. And. But those are the stories where it's like certain people believed, you know, I

[Anthony Pompliano]

think that the number one thing that made Barcelo successful is that you guys understood everything is content.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Everything. Content over everything, man. Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

You know, Light switch Lou. I've seen the video of him telling Dave about Bitcoin for the first time. And he's walking. He sounds like a fucking insane man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, he's an insane, right?

[Anthony Pompliano]

And he's got his laptop and he's

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

like, it's a character. It's. It's like you can't have barstool without, like, Dave. Right? But in a strange way, not as equally important, but pretty important are like the weirdo characters who maybe are way less talented. Not to be mean, but. Or just don't have the exposure or the ethic or whatever. But we need that guy who's the blind kid to throw things, you know, it's like the cast of characters that we assemble assembled luck. I don't know. Was it luck? Was it talent? Like, did he not have an eye for that? Or some sort of combination of all of it? It is this alchemy that, like those circumstances I don't think will ever be replicated.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But it's also thing. Like what was Big Cat had like that corner in one of the offices of. Just like that piling up there.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was like, when you describe it, it's like it was just a corner of a room. But he just, he. There was so much character.

[Anthony Pompliano]

The corner. Yeah. And then I remember on a Rascal

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

scooter that became, became a thing.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah. I just remember coming to the office and. And then just being like, don't go near the corner and be like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because it's like there's. There might be a small child in there for all.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Any other business would be like, hey, man, you got to move this stuff. Like, we're trying to like when people are coming to the office. Right. And other people are like, no, no, like protecting the corner. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And so that that corner was probably more valuable than like 30% of the humans of the company. I said about Dave, Dave's dog is, is probably like the, the third most important employee at the company. It's like Dan, Dave. And then his dog, his dog gets bigger brand deals than like all the humans working there. Or even like our cleaning company once stole from us and we got out the cctv. We made a whole story of, you know, going through drawers, stealing people's money and weed and stuff like that. The, the security guard, her name's Ebony, she used to just do security for the building. And I kind of struck up a friendship with her. Next thing you know, we just hire her to be our personal security. Dirty everything and anything can be turned into content at all times. It's also like a. Probably a wildly unhealthy way to live. Like, I think I'm totally warped and. But it makes for unbelievable because when reality TV became like, not really reality, it was kind of getting scripted. We were like, no, this is real. And people would always accuse us, oh, this is a bit. You scripted this. It's like all this was real. And so you are getting like actual anger fights, scandals, whatever. When everything else started to get scripted, we, we, we went even more the other direction. So.

[Anthony Pompliano]

All right, where can we send people to find you on the Internet at kfc?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Barstool is the main thing on Instagram right now. So I, I wrapped up the podcast in January. So right now I'm just kind of doing short form videos on all social media.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So you're out fire.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The. The short form is an interesting one, man, because it's like, I think that that's the way everything's going the same way. I thought kind of podcast was next. I think it's all short form video, but people are in the. In this podcast mode of how to sell podcast ads and long for. And so monetizing it is. Is a little bit. I think I'm, like, still at the frontier of that, but I think short form is the way. So I've been putting all my eggs in that basket and it's. Yeah, business has been pretty good. Like, 50 million views a month. I'm pretty proud of that. So.

[Anthony Pompliano]

50 million views per month.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, just from. And I mean, I literally. It's just.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I've seen you do it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's it. You know what I mean? So that's a good thing.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So maybe you are actor.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wait, before we go, I got one question. View this private private equity, like, explosion in sports. A lot of people are basically saying that, like, the Celtics just traded Jaylen Brown because of analytics and, And. And private equity.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Why are.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why if you're so smart and you're as a private equity firm to know about, like, making money, don't you think there's enough knowledge to be like, let's not completely bastardize this thing that we've just bought and ruin it and make private equity look so bad?

[Anthony Pompliano]

No, because is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because it still just makes more money.

[Anthony Pompliano]

The person who did it. You can't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, there's no, like, personal culpability. What's the.

[Anthony Pompliano]

What's the company.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, like, I think about private equity.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I don't care if you attack private equity. It's like years ago, I used to say this saying. I used to say, long bitcoin, short the bankers. And I would have people who literally are bankers be like, yeah, yeah. And I'd be like, yeah. And they're like, I'm not a banker. Like, oh, yeah. I mean, like, I, like, I hang out here, but, you know, I'm like one of you guys, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Everybody wants to be one of you guys. When can you. I wrote it in the book. Can you just say something or do something to make bitcoin go back up? Just do it.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Do.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Pull the button. Pull lever.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Push the button.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Say the thing.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Make it happen. You. You want it to just do what it does.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, it's like, no, I want it to go up. I want it to do what I want it to do, not what it wants.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I know, I know. It's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is there any concern for. For. For you think it's fine? Because I. I started to hear how, like, the. The derivatives that are being made off of bitcoin are now kind of eating up.

[Anthony Pompliano]

The volatility will definitely come down. Down.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Just because it's gotten bigger. But my general view is if you buy bitcoin, you should do everything in your power to just say, I'm going to give this to my grandkids.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. That's how I view it psychologically do

[Anthony Pompliano]

that in a weird way. I wrote this thing one time and everyone thought I was nuts. I was like, the boomers had housing. The millennials have satoshi. Because what do boomers do? They like bought. Now can you live in your house? Of course you can't live in your

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

utility to the house.

[Anthony Pompliano]

But you like, like bought this thing and you basically just held it for like 20 years.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. It's like your mortgage is a 30 year mortgage. We're talking about a decades long plan, so you should do the same.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so they just held it and all of a sudden they're like, that $200,000 house I bought is now a million and a half dollar. What the. You can do anything for that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Bitcoin I think is very similar. Right. Is even in the last couple years. I mean it goes up, it goes down at whatever.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I, I do think the difference is like houses will always exist whereas like if bitcoin disappeared from the world, we, it wouldn't be couldn't. We could keep going, you know.

[Anthony Pompliano]

True. But I think that there's plenty of housing markets where that's not true. Have you seen. Actually this is, this is. You should do a video on this. Have Bloomberg recently had an article out around Dallas, Texas. There was a massive surge of H1B immigrate immigration there because a bunch of companies removing their headquarters to Dallas, Texas. Well, when that happens, H1BS, a lot of them come from India because they're software engineers or it, or whatever. Right. So like whatever your thoughts are on immigration, just wait. But if you have a bunch of people from a single geographic area with a certain ethnicity, certain cultural norms, all this stuff, the people where they're moving start to adapt to that because they're like, well, I need to sell homes if I'm a home builder. So Bloomberg has an article where they're talking to this home builder, builder. And long story short, what's happened is now there's a bunch of changes to these programs. A lot of these folks are not having to move home or they're not having as much money, so they're not buying these houses, whatever. But the homes that got built had things like a specific area of the kitchen for like a spice kitchen or they had like a room that was like a prayer room. Now they're trying to like reconfigure it to be like a study or like whatever. Right? Yeah. And so I look at this and I'm like like, okay, housing, yes, to a degree, is this great long term term store of wealth. But in Dallas, Texas, home prices exploded. And the whole article is about they're coming back down and here's the drivers of it, whatever. So it's like a very well done article that's like looking at the economic impact and that's like the focus. But you learn some of these nuances and you're like, well actually if you bought a home in Dallas, Texas three years ago, I don't know if it was that great. So 10 years from now, is it going to be greater 20 years from now? Now like probably, but I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, right.

[Anthony Pompliano]

And so like there's always risk, I think is the, the, the short answer. And so it's like to me, a home, bitcoin gold, you know, whatever. It's just like, dude, buy some shit, hold it for long.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What do you, what do you think is like, are you, are you of the thought that it's going to go to a million? Like when people say that.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is that just because of scarcity? Because there's a fixed like what does.

[Anthony Pompliano]

The government's never gonna stop printing money. Money.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And so you think that like it's like gold. So like all the other currencies will be less appealing to prop this up to the point that it'll spike that high.

[Anthony Pompliano]

I, I just think that scarcity becomes very valuable in a world of abundance. And we have an abundance of dollars and we're headed to a world of even more dollars and then also an abundance of intelligence through AI and so like things that are scarce now. I think that professional sports team owners. Super. There's only 32 teams, right. So like that's interesting. I've seen people buying up like collectibles like the guys who bought the Pokemon card from Logan Paul. Super interesting, right? A company called Treasure Trove. If you go and you take a look at bitcoin, right. Gold, like things that have scarcity to them are going to continue to perform really well because you just have an abundance of these dollars. And so everything's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And there is no way to get around this idea that there's a fixed amount of out. Like don't. Because I always think wasn't there a time where like the government would have been like, no, there's no more gold to back these dollars. And then they just like, made up a new system where they could print it. Is there a way that, like, bitcoin be like, actually where you're now making new bitcoins and then the whole system is.

[Anthony Pompliano]

If I remember correctly, over the last 25 years, gold is outperformed the stock market. So even though they took away the gold's like, reliance to the dollar or the relationship there, gold is more valuable today.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Pay.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Right. When they, when they took off the gold standard, if I remember correctly, I think it was at like 35 an ounce.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Cross over 5,000. It's come down a little bit, but, like, insane, right? So it's just like, if you, you know, look, I give boomers a lot of. They give millennials a lot of. So it's kind of, you know, this like, love, hate, relationship, whatever. But like, if you're just 50 years ago, bought a house and bought gold and chilled, like, dude, you're a genius. Yeah, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Anthony Pompliano]

So, like, I'll leave you with this. You know what? Investment strategy I think is highly underrated and will be very valuable viable in the future. Hit me the crazy uncle portfolio.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay.

[Anthony Pompliano]

When you go to Thanksgiving dinner, what does your crazy uncle talk about? Land, guns, Bitcoin and gold.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Those are the four. Buy them up, baby.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Government ain't gonna get my guns, right? I'm gonna get on my land, right? Like, like, those four things are probably gonna do incredibly well.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's so funny, I think about those guys also being in bitcoin being like, it's my guns. And also I got my little seed phrase to keep my bitcoin safe, dude, 100%.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So it's like my wallet that I put it in.

[Anthony Pompliano]

Yeah. All right. Kfc Bar stool on Instagram. That's where we're going to send people. Appreciate it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Thank you, brother.