Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why parabolic AI stocks are justified by real demand, who's actually buying bitcoin and why it's heading higher, the tokenization wave coming this summer, and the stocks Jordi is buying and selling right now.

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0:00 - Intro
1:14 - Why parabolic moves in AI stocks are justified
5:18 - Data center buildout & the obsolescence race
11:34 - DRAM ETF & AI volatility
20:56 - Data center protests, supply bottlenecks, & inflation
28:54 - AI-driven layoffs — cover story or real?
32:12 - Michael Saylor, bitcoin & who's actually buying
35:19 - Blackrock ETF at all-time highs & boomer buying
37:21 - Why long duration assets are dead
39:25 - Tokenization & the Iran war
41:40 - New Fed chair, oil & macro outlook
46:35 - AI in grocery stores & dynamic pricing
49:21 - Wealth inequality & discretionary spending
51:47 - Long-term investing advice & stocks Jordi is looking at
57:50 - Jordi’s video this week