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Bo Hines is the CEO of Tether US and a former White House crypto advisor who helped shape U.S. digital-asset policy during a critical moment for the industry. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss Bo’s work in the White House on crypto policy, including the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, the GENIUS Act, and the push for regulatory clarity. We also cover stablecoin adoption, why UX matters more than yield, how Tether is connecting global markets to U.S. capital, and why stablecoins could be the on-ramp to the next phase of bitcoin and financial infrastructure.=======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/=======================Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.=======================0:00 - Intro0:19 - White House crypto policy & Bo Hines’ role2:52 - How important is the Clarity Act?4:10 - Tether: scale, growth & global impact10:49 - Stablecoin yield debate12:37 - Financial access, wallets & the unbanked14:19 - Tether’s relationship with Bitcoin15:46 - Reserves, transparency & risk17:24 - Interoperability & the future of stablecoins

Caitlin Long is the founder and CEO of Custodia Bank and a pioneer at the intersection of traditional finance and crypto. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we break down stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and U.S. banking regulation, explaining why stablecoins were pushed outside the banking system and how tokenized dollars could reshape payments and markets. We also discusses custody risk, bank account closures, bitcoin ETFs, and the key barriers still slowing crypto’s integration into traditional finance.========================Bitget (https://bitget.com/promotion/futures-tradfi?channelCode=regd&vipCode=nkew) is the world's largest Universal Exchange (UEX) (https://bitget.com/promotion/futures-tradfi?channelCode=regd&vipCode=nkew), serving over 125 million users with access to over 2M+ crypto tokens, and TradFi markets such as 100+ tokenized stocks, ETFs, commodities, FX and precious metal like Gold. At launch, users can trade 79 instruments with USDT directly with the App. Users can also enjoy high liquidity and low slippage, while trading these assets with up to 500x leverage. For more information on Bitget TradFi, visit this article (https://bitget.com/support/articles/12560603846859). For more information, visit: Website (https://bitget.com/) | Twitter (https://x.com/bitget) | Telegram (https://t.me/BitgetENOfficial) | LinkedIn (https://linkedin.com/company/bitget-global/) | Discord (https://discord.com/invite/bitget)For media inquiries, please contact: media@bitget.com========================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/========================Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.========================0:00 - Intro0:24 - Stablecoins, regulation & government control 4:00 - Bridging tradfi & crypto, bank closures 6:16 - How tokenization plays into all of this 8:05 - Bitcoin, custody risk & “not your keys” 9:51 - Bitcoin vs Gold14:06 - What are some big milestones left?15:28 - 7 Network Effects of Bitcoin: where are we now?18:59 - Big banks, infrastructure risk & legacy systems 22:09 - What is next for Custodia Bank?

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with over 30 years of market experience and the author of VisserLabs Substack. In this episode, we break down what’s happening in software stocks, credit markets, and bitcoin — including how bitcoin could benefit in both inflationary and deflationary environments. We also explore real-world AI adoption, capital shifts, and a few surprising insights Jordi didn’t see coming.========================Bitget (https://bitget.com/promotion/futures-tradfi?channelCode=regd&vipCode=nkew) is the world's largest Universal Exchange (UEX) (https://bitget.com/promotion/futures-tradfi?channelCode=regd&vipCode=nkew), serving over 125 million users with access to over 2M+ crypto tokens, and TradFi markets such as 100+ tokenized stocks, ETFs, commodities, FX and precious metal like Gold. At launch, users can trade 79 instruments with USDT directly with the App. Users can also enjoy high liquidity and low slippage, while trading these assets with up to 500x leverage. For more information on Bitget TradFi, visit this article (https://bitget.com/support/articles/12560603846859). For more information, visit: Website (https://bitget.com/) | Twitter (https://x.com/bitget) | Telegram (https://t.me/BitgetENOfficial) | LinkedIn (https://linkedin.com/company/bitget-global/) | Discord (https://discord.com/invite/bitget)For media inquiries, please contact: media@bitget.com========================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/========================Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.========================0:00 - Intro0:51 - Breaking down deflation & macro environment 5:49 - Why deflation pushes money into scarce assets12:40 - Software stocks, AI, & multiple compression18:45 - Why public companies may disappear20:35 - Tokenization, RWAs, & on-chain markets25:45 - What “agent swarms” actually are & security risks 38:42 - AI apps anyone can build & how to use AI40:48 - Private credit stress & Blue Owl49:45 - What Jordi is covering next

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. This conversation was recorded at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this episode, we break down why software stocks are losing their moats, how AI is driving deflation, and why capital is rotating toward scarce assets. We explore hyperscalers, data centers, AI agents, and why bitcoin may emerge as the only true growth asset in a world of abundant intelligence.=====================Summ supports TurboTax and makes it easy to track your cost basis across 3,500 exchange, wallet and crypto integrations -- with support for DeFi, NFTs, staking and airdrops. Generate accurate IRS-ready reports that help maximize deductions and pay the least tax possible. Summ is an official tax partner of MetaMask and Coinbase. Use code POMP20 for 20% off your first year at Summ: https://summ.com/us?via=pomp&promo=POMP20=====================This podcast is sponsored by Abra.com. Abra is the secure way to access crypto and crypto based yield and loan products through a separately managed account structure.Learn more at http://www.abra.com.=====================Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.=====================0:00 - Intro0:56 – Cathie Wood’s AI take & why Jordi disagrees4:30 – Why Big Tech may struggle to monetize AI6:57 – Deflation vs disinflation in an AI-driven economy10:08 – What investors should actually do right now14:12 – The scarcity trade & why bitcoin stands out16:25 – How investors can use AI to gain an edge19:16 – Where to follow Jordi Visser & his work

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with over 30 years of market experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down bitcoin’s role in a deflationary world, inflation, Fed monetary policy, and the scrutiny around Jerome Powell. We also explore how AI is reshaping productivity and healthcare, the rise of humanoid robots, and what it all means for markets—plus a few laughs along the way.=======================BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 80+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $1,000 in rewards.=======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/=======================0:00 - Intro1:01 – Are young people into bitcoin?6:58 - Deflation vs inflation (what it means for bitcoin)16:11 - AI agents & stablecoins: “what is money?”21:12 - Bitcoin price levels & Jordi’s approach23:39 – Powell investigation (does it matter?)27:31 - Does GDP still matter?32:46 – Tesla & humanoid robots (how big is this?)39:05 – “Body Guard Circle” - security automation 43:07 – Humanoids reading humans (future risks)47:10 – Jordi’s content & Miami live show

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with over 30 years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we discuss the shift toward higher growth and lower inflation, how AI-driven productivity is reshaping the economy, housing, labor markets, and why energy and critical minerals are becoming central to global geopolitics. We also break down what these trends mean for markets and long-term investment portfolios.=======================Award-winning Fountain Life - Energy supercharged. Memory sharper. Life extended. Ready for the best investment you’ll ever make? Schedule a life-changing call at FountainLife.com/Pomp Get $1,000 off the cost of a life-changing membership with Fountain Life when you schedule a call at FountainLife.com/pomp=======================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.=======================In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.=======================Timestamps:0:00 – Intro1:57 – Is the economy entering high growth, low inflation?4:17 – Could GDP really reach 10%?9:09 – What this economic setup means for investors12:36 – AI chips explained16:44 – Data centers, power limits, & space20:04 – AI, energy, & shifting global alliances27:16 – Geopolitics: Iran, Cuba, Mexico, Greenland30:54 – President Trump’s housing plan explained33:20 – Will falling home prices hurt voters?38:01 – Humans and humanoid robots working together44:01 – Biggest risks & personal concerns47:43 – A simple AI product that shows what’s coming52:09 – How to build powerful AI prompts55:16 – Why building software beats buying it now1:03:17 – AI consulting and how to get involved1:05:13 – Live show announcement

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience and the writer behind the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down the key lessons from 2025 and what to watch in 2026. We cover the assets and trends shaping the next cycle, the rapid impact of artificial intelligence on productivity, GDP, economic growth, and how individuals can use these tools to create more value in their work and lives. We also dive into bitcoin, AI’s role in markets, and practical takeaways you can apply immediately.=======================CFO Silvia: https://www.cfosilvia.com/=======================Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan (http://www.figuremarkets.co/pomp), allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! http://www.figuremarkets.co/pomp Disclosures: Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply.=======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/=======================This podcast is sponsored by Abra.com. Abra is the secure way to access crypto and crypto based yield and loan products through a separately managed account structure.Learn more at http://www.abra.com.=======================Timestamps:0:00 – Intro1:49 – 2025 market recap and biggest lessons14:47 – 2026 outlook: can GDP growth accelerate?21:30 – 2026 asset outlook: stocks, commodities, crypto28:45 – How to use AI to make better decisions and investing ideas33:36 – Silvia tax/parenting use cases and better portfolio construction with AI40:41 – Karpathy’s tweet: AI is changing programming49:17 – Building apps and tools with AI and the importance of curiosity + persistence1:00:56 – 2026 prediction: task-specific AI agents1:05:06 – Health, longevity, and Jordi’s new Substack

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience, and he also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we break down the major forces driving markets today — bitcoin’s price action, accelerating institutional adoption, the latest AI developments, internal tensions at OpenAI, and an overlooked industrial company he believes will be critical to the future economy. We wrap with a sharp look at the Fed, interest rates, deflation signals, and why easy money is still flowing through the system. ======================Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan (https://www.figuremarkets.co/pomp), allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://www.figuremarkets.co/pomp Disclosures: Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply.======================Bitizenship gives Bitcoin-forward investors a fast, compliant path to EU residency. Our Bitcoin Dolce Visa lets you invest in a 100% Bitcoin-aligned startup and qualify for Italy’s Golden Visa with one strategy. Claim your free strategy call at https://www.bitizenship.com/pomp.======================Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/======================Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro1:50 – How to evaluate bitcoin right now6:29 – The AI boom impact on asset prices & macro environment11:59 – Deflation impact & Elon says will work be optional?18:25 – Evaluating jobs data in an AI-driven economy25:57 – The AI impact on the economy41:42 – Michael Burry & Elon’s view on the economy & the future48:16 – Where to find Jordi’s content

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we discuss Bitcoin’s “IPO moment” — why investors are feeling disappointed, what’s really happening beneath the surface, and how these dynamics could reshape portfolios in the months ahead. Jordi also shares his perspective on Tesla, artificial intelligence, and the shifting political landscape — explaining how the New York City mayor race and overall market sentiment could influence the next phase of global investing.======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: http://pompdesk.com/======================This episode is brought to you by Figure (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin, Ethereum, & SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) for a Crypto Backed Loan (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply.======================As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at https://www.archpublic.com, your portfolio will thank you.======================DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.======================Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro2:05 – Bitcoin’s “IPO moment” and illiquid markets6:51 – How stablecoins and AI will impact bitcoin12:34 – AI stocks and the next phase18:22 – Jobs report, unemployment, and inequality20:40 – NYC mayor race & rise of socialism27:35 – Will Tesla buy Uber?31:18 – Inflation, wages, and the restaurant reset40:45 – Elon’s trillion-dollar Tesla bet44:06 – “Make Your AI Bed” — adapting to the new era

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we unpack the Fed’s interest rate cuts, the U.S.–China trade dynamic, and what they signal for global markets. We also dive into the Bitcoin, AI, and tokenized assets — explaining how these forces, alongside Tesla’s innovations, are shaping the next major investment cycle.======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: http://pompdesk.com/======================This episode is brought to you by Figure (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin, Ethereum, & SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) for a Crypto Backed Loan (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply.======================In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.======================DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.======================Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro1:14 - Fed rate cut and market reaction3:40 - US - China trade agreement and impact 7:00 - How to navigate government shutdown, labor market, and AI 21:09 – Generational divide, wealth gap, and rise of socialism in politics25:52 – Bitcoin sentiment and why investors are frustrated32:27 – Tokenization, stablecoins, and the future of payments 37:46 – Token revolution and the merging of AI & crypto 41:33 – Tesla, robo-taxis, and the future of self-driving cars