S2-E22: Contractor Confession - "The Machine I Wish I Would've Bought"

Summary

The Deep End with Eric Triplett — S2-E22: Contractor Confession - "The Machine I Wish I Would've Bought"
Podcast Recorded: March 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Eric Triplett—"The Pond Digger"—broadcasts live from the bustling show floor of the Con Expo Con/Agg in Las Vegas. He confesses to a significant moment of contractor regret and dives deep into the world of mini skid loaders with Steve Weldon, a product specialist from Vermeer. The central theme: How choosing the right machine can transform contractor efficiency, safety, and long-term business growth. Eric explores what sets Vermeer’s latest mini skid steer line apart, and reflects candidly on the lessons learned from his own equipment choices.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene at Con Expo Con/Agg

• [00:45] Eric shares the excitement of being at North America's largest construction trade show, describing “massive machines everywhere, iron everywhere you look... innovations... and a whole lot of conversations about where the contractor industry is heading."
• This episode is unique as it’s recorded live among the energy and chaos of the trade floor, lending authenticity and immediacy to the conversation.

2. Contractor Confession: The Machine Regret

• [04:26] Eric openly admits to purchasing an MT100 mini skid loader (not a Vermeer) in 2020 due to supply chain issues, expressing "so many regrets that I wish I would’ve got this [Vermeer] machine."
• The episode’s "confession" theme centers around critical buying decisions contractors face and the impacts these have on daily operations and long-term growth.

3. The Vermeer Difference: Attachments & Innovation

• [05:35] Steve Weldon describes Vermeer’s open attachment system: "We don’t have a specialized attachment plate... we've tested all of those. So anything that we sell, we know that it's been tested and we can stand behind it.”
• [06:41] Customer feedback is central to Vermeer’s R&D: “When we’re out in the field with customers... what are they missing that’s going to make them more productive? And that really drives a lot of the attachments that we offer.” (Steve Weldon)
• [07:10] Top attachments beyond buckets include Harley rakes, trenchers, rotary brooms, soil renovators, stump cutters, a new concrete mixer, and a core saw.
  • Notably, the concrete mixer attachment had just been released in October (2025).

4. Product Line Breakdown & Unique Features

• [08:22] Vermeer offers five mini loader models; three were represented at the show. Includes the S450TX (also available as a fully electric unit) and ML80, ML100, ML130, and ML150.
• [09:15] Stand-on design advantages: Vermeer’s "chariot style platform" offers improved operator protection: “When you step up onto the platform, it’s like you’re standing in a chariot... you’re protected on all three sides. You can brace your legs on the side... you can really lock in.” (Steve Weldon)
• High dump buckets extend reach for loading tall trailers or backfilling.

5. Operator Experience, Maintenance, and Serviceability

• [12:15] Dual, “saddlebag” diesel tanks offer all-day runtime and easier refueling: “This seems like a real clean, cool attachment.” (Eric)
• [12:39] Panels allow tool-less access for maintenance: “...both of those side panels on the engine will come out. No tools required to remove them. You have full access to that engine.” (Steve Weldon)
• [13:15] Track tensioning avoids the traditional grease system: “We do not use a grease system to tension our tracks... ours are spring tensioned... a gauge that slips into the side of the track... pretty easy.” (Steve Weldon)

6. Hydraulic Systems, Resale Value, and Warranty

• [14:23] All models offer dual high/low flow auxiliary hydraulics as a standard—often an add-on with competitors.
• [11:30] Vermeer machines hold strong resale value: “The value, the resale value, your residual when you’re ready to trade in, this holds its value.” (Steve Weldon)
• [14:50] Robust warranty: three years or 2,000 hours on boom and frame, one year/1,000 on rest of machine.

7. Real-World Pricing and Purchasing Insights

• [15:37] Pricing starts at $40K for the ML80, $45K for the ML100, and mid-$60Ks for larger models.
• [16:02] The ML100 is deemed the “sweet spot” for tight, residential spaces: “This is my next machine that I’m going to be adding to my fleet.” (Eric)
• [20:00+] Eric acknowledges Vermeer’s machines’ ability to fit through as narrow as 36-inch backyard fences, key for California, Florida, and Jersey contractors.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This is where the real magic’s happening on the sales floor... talking to people.” (Eric Triplett, [04:01])
• “We weren’t the first to market with these, but we were one of the early pioneers, one of the best.” (Steve Weldon, [05:25])
• "When you step up onto the platform, it’s like you’re standing in a chariot... You're protected on all three sides." (Steve Weldon, [09:15])
• “[Vermeer]... the machine has some smaller tracks so you can actually get it into smaller locations... you can get into 36-inch backyard fences.” (Eric, [20:10])
• “The right equipment really matters. Sometimes it’s horsepower. Sometimes it’s lift capacity, sometimes it’s the little things that matter... [but] the real things that matter are safety and serviceability, attachment versatility... and how the machine actually works day to day in the field.” (Eric, [19:25])
• “I know I was leaning towards Vermeer and something pushed me... Whether it was a time delay or I don’t know what it was. 2020 was tough to get machines... But moving forward, this is definitely something worth putting on your radar.” (Eric, [21:00])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:45 — Live from Con Expo: Setting, energy, and scope of the event
• 04:26 — Eric’s “contractor confession” regarding equipment regrets
• 06:41 — How Vermeer develops attachments from customer feedback
• 08:22 — Overview of Vermeer’s mini skid loader lineup
• 09:15 — Operator protection and the chariot-style platform
• 11:30 — Discussion on machine resale value
• 12:15 — Fuel system and serviceability improvements
• 13:15 — Non-grease track tensioning system
• 14:23 — Dual hydraulic systems and warranty details
• 15:37 — Model pricing and target customer recommendations
• 19:25 — Eric’s recap: Key lessons on equipment decisions
• 20:10 — Importance of machine width for residential contractors
• 21:00 — Final reflections and looking ahead for Pod House Studios episodes

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Tone & Language

• The exchange is candid, technical, and grounded firmly in daily contractor reality, peppered with good-natured industry banter.
• Eric’s vulnerability reinforces authenticity: “I have so many regrets... I wish I would’ve got this machine.”
• Steve Weldon’s responses are practical, focused on what matters to working trades professionals: reliability, serviceability, and innovation.

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Summary

This episode is a must-listen (or read) for contractors contemplating machinery upgrades, especially those working in residential or tight-access sites. Eric Triplett’s honest self-evaluation, combined with a detailed tour of Vermeer’s latest mini skid steer features and philosophy, delivers actionable insights on making equipment decisions that matter. The abundance of firsthand field experience and direct feedback from Vermeer’s specialist gives listeners both a technical understanding and a “boots on the ground” perspective, all delivered with real-world passion and grounded advice.

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Key Takeaway:
When it comes to equipment that shapes productivity, safety, and profitability, it pays to look beyond price tags and specs — and focus on how a machine performs, adapts, and holds its value in the field. As Eric sums up, “Sometimes it’s horsepower. Sometimes it’s lift capacity... But the real things that matter are safety and serviceability, attachment versatility... and how the machine actually works day to day in the field.”

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the Deep End with Eric Triplett, the pond digger. This is the show for contractors, tradesmen and entrepreneurs who want more from their business and from themselves. Eric brings decades of experience as a seven figure contractor with expertise in leadership, sales systems, and the discipline it takes to build something real. Shaped by years in the aquatics world. His insights are rooted in precision, craftsmanship, and performance. If you're done skimming the surface and ready to go deeper, it's time to dive in.

[B]

All right, rockstars, welcome back to the Deep End podcast. It's Triplet here, and today's episode's a little bit different because we're recording this from Pod House Studios right here in Las Vegas. And this week's a big one for us. We've. We've kicked off our very first Pod House excursion. We brought a crew of podcasters from across the country, all the way from the east coast to the west coast, and we're together during the Con Expo conag event, which, if you've never been, it's absolutely insane. This is the largest construction trade show in North America and It happens every three years. And this year there's well over 100,000 contractors, operators, innovators, manufacturers, all gathered in this one spot last year. I know they had over 140,000 people and it was packed. It was definitely popping off. But we're talking massive machines everywhere, iron everywhere you look, cranes, new technologies, equipment launches, brand new things, just like innovations. And a whole lot of conversations about where the contractor industry is heading and which way it's moving and what's going on. So it was really a great event to kick it off at. So we spent the week doing, you know, what I love doing the most about events like this? Walking show floor, shaking hands, kissing babies, talking with manufacturers, digging into equipment that, that actually moves the needles for contractors, and, you know, talking to certain, certain companies that have like a hundred different attachments for your, your skid steers and things of that nature. And that, that's just insane to me. So anything that you can think of to help be more efficient on a job site, it. They're working on it. So one of the booths I spent some time at was Vermeer, and I had a chance to like, lock in with Steve Weldon. He's a product specialist there. And right there on the show floor, we just mic'd it up and started talking about some of their machines and the product development guys and their skid steers, they're very passionate about it. So here's where it gets interesting. Because it's like a contract confession. I'll be completely honest with you. And transparent. When I bought my last mini skid loader, I didn't buy a Vermeer. And I'm having a little bit of contractor regret over that, especially after the conversation. I've always had this little twinge of regret about that decision six years ago, but after this conversation, it just. It thickens a little bit. But in this interview, we break down what makes Vermeer skid steers different. The many ones specifically, and features that contractors often overlook in the buying process. How these machines are designed for real job site efficiency. And this is one of the machines I looked at that has over 100 attachments. And that just blew my mind. And we're going to talk a little bit about why the next machine in my fleet might look a little different than the ones that we have today. So fair warning, we do record this live on the trade show floor. There's definitely some background noise that we're working through, but we're trying to figure out how to do these. What do I want to say? We want to do these like booth takeovers, come over and shoot content and do some stuff.

[C]

Because this is.

[B]

This is where the real magic's happening on the sales floor. Like that, talking to people. So there's a little bit of noise moving around machines and just, you know, the general chaos of Con Expo with thousands of people there. But honestly, that was really a fun part for me. So let's jump into the conversation with Vermeer. This is right from the show floor. Con Expo, Las Vegas, Pod House Studios. Let's go.

[C]

What I really want to talk about is we had a great conversation yesterday about your mini skids. And I want to be transparent. I was yesterday in 2020, I purchased the MT100. Right. And it was. It was like a supply issue and it was timing and all this, you know, 2020, the world was upside down. But when I look at this machine now, I have so many regrets that I wish I would have got this machine. So can you kind of run us through the line? Yeah, you know, you're the product specialist. Tell us all about it.

[D]

You bet. So we've been in this space for over 10 years, right?

[C]

So.

[D]

So it's not something. We're not a new player to the game. We're established.

[C]

Can we talk about that for a second?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, this is. Who is the first stand behind miniskid. I mean, you were early on in the game, right? They haven't been around that Long have they?

[D]

I think we've been in it around 10 or 11 years, which is kind of when the, when these started to blow up. We weren't the first to market with these, but we were one of the

[C]

early pioneers, one of the best.

[D]

We are the best.

[C]

Well, you know, it's crazy because when, when you told me yesterday that there's a hundred attachments, my mind kind of just seized up a little bit.

[D]

Yeah. And on our equipment, we, we don't have a specialized attachment plate. So you don't have to use specifically one brand of. One brand of attachment. We have a full catalog of attachments to complement these machines. We've tested all of those. So anything that we sell, we know that it's been tested and we can stand behind it.

[C]

How many attachments do you guys specifically make? So there's a hundred. I mean, are you making a great deal of those?

[D]

Yeah, so we're, we're making probably 90% of those. There are some power detachments. We've recently partnered with Virnig on our power detachments, but it's, it's branded as our, our attachment. But most of the detachments that we offer, we make.

[C]

How do you justify, how do you go to the market and go like, hey, we're going to build this attachment that'll do this job or this task?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

How do you, how do you quantify that it'll be worth it and accepted by the market in a, in a, in a place well enough to do all the R and D and the.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Customer. Customer feedback has always been huge for us. So like I said, we've been in this, in this game on this model line for several years. Right. But we continue to improve. And the same thing with attachments. When we're out in the field with customers. What's their needs, what's the application, what are they missing that's going to make them more productive? And that, that really drives a lot of the attachments that we, that we offer that we produce.

[C]

What are, what are the top five attachments besides buckets?

[D]

You know, just bucket, bucket and forks are. Or a give me. Right. So that, that, that's going to be on almost every machine. But we do a lot of the Harley rakes. We've got our own trencher attachment, rotary brooms, soil renovators. We have a stump cutter attachment. We recently released a concrete mixer as well as a core saw attachment for

[C]

Hydra Saw, the concrete mixer yesterday. That was pretty cool. Yeah, you, that's how, how recent is that?

[D]

We just released that in October. Wow.

[C]

How long is the research and development on that before you go to market on.

[D]

Oh, that's a good question. And I'm not sure how long it took to get that to market from concept, but I mean, I'm thinking 18

[C]

to 24 months by the time you think about it.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, that's insane. Jackhammers, of course, all that.

[D]

Breakers. Yeah, breakers. Yep.

[C]

So how many, how many different units are there? And let's be real clear because, you know, I'm looking at these units on the floor, you have some larger tracks on them. So, yeah, they feel a little bit beefier. They look more expensive than the skinny tracks. Right.

[D]

So, so in our portfolio, we have a total of five mini loaders.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So we have three of them represented here today. We have a S450TX, which is an electric unit.

[C]

Oh, really?

[D]

And then that's not here today. It's. That's not here today. Just with the amount of space we have with the booth, we can't bring, you know, full representation. But we do offer that S450 in electric version. And then on, on the rest of the line, it starts at the ML80, ML100, ML130 and ML150. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, so I'm on. I'm using the MT100. It's a great machine. I really love it. But I do feel a little bit. I feel vulnerable when I'm standing in the machine. If I'm backing up in tight spots, you know, your, your feet are kind of hanging off.

[D]

Right.

[C]

So I really like how these guys seem to give you a little bit more protection. I think that's amazing.

[D]

And that's one thing that we've always had from the beginning was what we call our chariot style platform. So when you step up onto the platform, it's like you're standing in a chariot.

[C]

I never thought of it that way.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's how we describe it. So you're protected on all three sides. Right. You can brace your legs on the side of that chariot platform. You can really lock in. If you're on uneven terrain, if you're unloading or loading from a trailer, you can get really stable. You're not exposed out here on a, on an empty stand on the back of the machine.

[C]

Machine. You were talking about a bucket. So like if you're loading into, into a, a tall trailer. Yeah, you know, there's a special bucket. Tell us about that.

[D]

Yeah, we have a high dump bucket. So if you're loading into a very high trailer or a truck. And you need just a little bit more reach. That that high dump bucket has a hydraulic cylinder underneath the bucket that will lift that bucket. So your pivot point goes from the pin to actually the bottom edge of that bucket. So your cutting edge of the bucket will be the pivot point to just give you that much more reach. It's also very handy if you're a landscaper and you're building retaining walls. It's great for backfilling those retaining walls.

[E]

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[B]

Now back to the show.

[C]

As I'm expanding and growing my team, it makes me think because I think all these machines in general hold their value. Right?

[D]

Yeah, the Vermeer brand, and we've heard this several times throughout the show this week, that the value, the resale value, your residual when you're ready to trade in this holds its value.

[C]

Yeah, I'm a little bit of a brand snob. So like I'd probably want to sell the MT100 and then get a little fleet of these guys going as we, as we expand and grow.

[D]

Yeah, we'd love that.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sure you would. No, but I love how the, you know, these dual diesel tanks on the outside is, they're really cool. I feel like on the machine I'm using currently, you know, I have to open up the hood and right. You know, hang, hang over the side of the unit to get the fuel into the machine. This seems like a real clean, cool attachment.

[D]

Yeah. They all have dual tanks, protected. We call them saddlebag tanks. So you've got a tank on each side with a crossover. So what that's going to do is that's going to allow you to run all day without refueling. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And you took this thing apart for us yesterday. It seemed like it, it disassembled pretty easy and quick for maintenance and yeah, that's, you know, on the radiator and things of that Nature.

[D]

That's one thing that we've really tried to do is make the service points really accessible. So all of our access panels, our tool is removal. So if you need access to your engine for service intervals and things like that, you can lift the boom, raise the hood. Both of those side panels on the engine will come out. No tools required to remove them. You have full access to that engine.

[C]

Okay. Okay. Tell me about, tell me about tightening and replacing the tracks.

[D]

Yeah, good question.

[C]

Because we've had to do that on our little machine a few times, and it's not fun.

[D]

Right. So we do not use a grease system to tension our tracks.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Grease system has its advantages and disadvantages. But if you're on a customer's property and you have to tension your tracks, you don't want to be dumping grease on the customers. So ours are.

[C]

It always happens at someone's property, Correct?

[D]

Always. Ours are spring tensioned. We have a retainer on the main nut. You take that retainer clip off, you loosen the nut, and then we have a gauge that slips into the side of the track.

[C]

Rail is a special tool.

[D]

It is. And it comes with each machine. It's in the. It's in the operator's manual box.

[C]

Is there a special place on that, on the machine that we can live or. You have to keep it in the truck.

[D]

It stays in that manual box.

[B]

Oh, cool.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Nothing worse than being on location.

[B]

You don't have the right tool.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Yeah, that's.

[D]

And then those.

[C]

I've been stuck like that. You can tell, right? I'm experienced. I'm experienced.

[D]

You use that tool and you put it in the slots on the side of the track rail and it gives you a window for tension.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So you just tighten that up. Yeah. So you're within that window. It's pretty easy.

[C]

So tell me about all the. All the hydraulic attachments. Because, you know, the machine I have, I think there's just two. What's. What's the benefits, pros and cons to that?

[D]

Yeah. So. Good question. All of our, all of our equipment, we offer high and low flow auxiliary. We've got dual auxiliary on all of our equipment. It's standard.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So a lot of our competitors, you can get it, but you have to pay for it. It's an option.

[C]

Right. Okay.

[D]

We do have a three year warranty on our boom and our frame. We're running the Railco engines in, in the model line.

[C]

Yeah. We were just over at their booth.

[B]

They have a.

[C]

They have a great engine.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And they're big fans of them.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. So with that you get a three year, three year warranty, 2,000 hour. So we have a very good warranty package on this. The rest of the machine is one year, 1,000. Okay. But with our loader arms, we run the steel lines. They're, they're enclosed within the boom. So if you drop something, you're not going to be taken. It's going to be much harder to damage those lines.

[C]

Right.

[B]

They're protected.

[C]

And you were telling me one of the baselines around 45,000. I think we were talking about that, one of those machines yesterday. Which machine were we specifically talking about when you said so?

[D]

Our ML80. It's running a 25 horse railco naturally aspirated engine. It does not have the weight package like the ML100 does. But that, that unit starts at 40,000.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

You move up to the 100, you're a 45,000. And then once you move up to our, to our two larger machines running the 40 horse cooler, you're getting up into mid-60s.

[C]

Okay. I think this, this ML100 is probably a sweet spot for, you know, where we get these tiny machines in and out of small backyards in Southern California. So this is, I'd like to say this is my next machine that, that I'm going to be one to add to my fleet.

[D]

Yeah. And you've got good lift capacity with this. You're, you're just under that 1000 mark. You're in the 1000 class with this machine. So very versatile. It's a compact package. Allows you to get into tight spaces and still have that lift capacity.

[C]

Yeah. You know, the worst thing about it is, you know, I have, I have a. Quite a few John Deere machines on my property because we have a, we have a small ranch in Southern California. So I'm at RDO all the time. So I'm being punished every time I drive in RDO to get something and these machines are on my face. I'm like, I wish I would have

[D]

got that calling your name.

[C]

They're calling my name for sure, Steve. So anyways, you have any final things you want to talk to my audience about? This machine?

[D]

These were all recently updated. All of our models on this line were updated in October. So if you haven't seen them, we'll be here till Saturday. We'd love for you guys to come out and come out and experience it. We'd love to talk to you. And let's set up a demo.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Cool. Cool.

[C]

Cuz yeah, we still got a couple more days here on the. On the AT Con Expo, huh?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Has it been a good show for you?

[D]

It's been. It's been a really good show. It's been really busy, A lot of traffic, a lot of interest.

[C]

So do you have any of these machines outside right now?

[D]

We don't have a booth outside this year.

[C]

Dude, I want to fire one of these up so bad right now. Just give me the key. Just. I want to hear it. We'll just. I really want to turn this machine on, but something about that diesel fire up just gets me all pumped up, so. All right, Steve, thanks so much for your time. I know you got a busy booth and I really appreciate the time spent with you.

[D]

Thanks for the opportunity.

[C]

Okay, see you.

[E]

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[D]

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[B]

Thank you so much for your ears and attention to the podcast today. That was it, the Ramire booth, right from the show floor Con Expo. And I'll tell you what, walking away from that conversation, what was it like 10 or 15 minute conversation, it reinforced something that every contractor needs to learn from eventually, right? The right equipment really matters. Sometimes it's horsepower. Sometimes it's lift capacity, sometimes it's the little things that matter. But the real things that matter is safety and serviceability, attachment, versatility. Come on. And how the machine actually works day to day in the field. I'm not sure that we even mentioned it on here, but I remember we were talking before I pushed go, but they have, the machine has some smaller tracks so you can actually get it into smaller locations. So if I didn't mention that, I wanted to, to bring that up because, you know, it was, it was sitting there at 40 or 42 inches wide with their bigger, the bigger tracks on the machine. But it has some skinny tracks. You can get into 36 inch backyard fences and stuff. So those, some of the, the real

[C]

cool

[B]

features to this particular machine that make it so powerful for, you know, the communities that have small backyards, California, Florida, Jersey, things of that nature. So I mean the, the real, the real truth is when you're running crews, moving materials, loading trucks and navigating those tight residential spaces, you know, like we do, specifically for water features and landscaping, the differences between machines become very obvious very, very quickly. And, and I'm honest after the conversation that this is the machine that I'll be moving towards next, the next mini skid loader that I add to my crew, it's going to have a Vermeer, you know, label on it. Vermeer badge is going to be on there. I really appreciated the team from Vermeer taking the time in the middle of the chaos, all the people walking the floors and they took the time to, to mic up with me and talk about this and share some of their stuff about their equipment, the insights on how their machines are design specifically for contractors. So if you're running mini skid steers in your business or you're thinking about adding one to your fleet, Vermeer's absolutely a brand worth putting on your radar. And I think I mentioned it in the podcast, but it was in 2020. It was hard for me. I know I was leaning towards Vermeer and something pushed me. Whether it was a time delay or I don't know what it was. 2020 was tough to get machines for our businesses. But moving forward, this is, this is definitely something worth putting on your radar. So. All right, that's it. Rockstars. The episode was recorded during the very first Pod House gathering here in Las Vegas, our debut venture. I wanted to make sure reminded you that for documenting that, we're bringing together podcasters and contractors, industry leaders, brands to collaborate, create content have some fun and chaos, share ideas where the industry's going. We're going to travel across the country doing that this year, so you're going to hear a lot more episodes coming out of the Pod House Studios, the remote content creation war room that over over the next few weeks, including more conversations with manufacturers, innovators and contractors we've met while walking Con Expo floor. But that's it for today, man. Until next time. Keep building, keep learning and keep pushing yourself to become the best version of yourself and create an environment where you're constantly looking to improve your business. Like we talked about today with Premiere. So that's it for today. We'll see you in the deep end.

[C]

Sam.