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Dr. Oscar Williams
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
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Dr. Oscar Williams
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
This is the Potter's House podcast. We're here to keep you filled with the spirit and guided by the scriptures. So listen, it is Walk It Out Wednesday. And it is. My God, I absolutely love Walk It Out Wednesday because we get a chance to talk about what just took place on Sunday. And oh my gosh, that word by Pastor Sarah on Sunday morning was absolutely insane. So as we get prepared for Walk It Out Wednesday, could you do me a favor? Could you help us celebrate our visionary, our founder, our own Bishop T.D. jakes and Lady Jake? Come On. Come on Online. Put your hands together for them and our co. Senior pastors, Pastor Tory and Pastor Sarah. But tonight I have two colleagues with colleagues with me that's gonna help me set the record straight. Just in case you don't know what the title of Sunday message was, we gonna set the record straight. And listen, tonight, it's. It's the three fellas tonight that's gonna roll with us tonight. I got my brother, Dr. Oscar Williams, and my brother, Pastor Benchard Dobbins. I want a later time. Come on.
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Pastor Sarah
Come on.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
It is. Listen.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Oh, my God. It's. It's. I don't know about you, but does anybody in here. Does anybody in here other than me or. Absolutely went crazy from that word Sunday? Like, I'm not. Okay, I'm not saying that because that's senior pastor. I'm saying that because she spoke a word to me that I was writing down and trying to listen and write. I said, you know what? I can't write no more. I'm gonna just go watch it again on YouTube because I gotta receive right now. So I have my brothers here with me, and I want you all to take your seats if you can. Tonight. Tonight is. I don't. It's not even unique. We get opportunity to dissect to walking out the word. And one of the things I found that's important and I love about you all is that we get a chance to dialogue not just about what was preached Sunday, but how we see it, how God spoke to us about it, how God can speak to the masses about it. Because one thing we can say about God's Word is God can say one word. And it reached 10,000 people in 10 different. 10,000 different ways. That's always been amazing to me that God can say go, and that means something different to a whole bunch of people. He could say amen and everything shifts. He could tell somebody, your season is about to shift, and that means something different to everybody else. And that's what I love about. It's so important that not only that we just research the Word of God, but dive into the revelation that God gives us from the word of God. Because every revelation is different for different people. And that's why you can't judge somebody's revelation. Okay, I'm a pause right there for just one second. You can't judge. This is why I don't get mad when I see people shouting and I'm not, because I don't know what they got a revelation about that God calls them to give an outward expression of something that took place on the inside. And that's what the word of God does. It takes it. But it's good that we get a chance to kind of dissect it and jump into it. And. And when she said, set the record state straight From Genesis, chapter 18, man, I. I thought about you Dobbins, when we were going to do tonight, how you so uniquely position yourselves to talk about the historical value of the text. Text from the Torah, from Genesis to revelation. And there's 66, 49, 8, 7, 2 words in the text. And I thought about you in that Genesis, the 1 to 18. But y', all, I'm setting this up for him because it's true. Because so many times people jump into the Word without studying historical value to get to that place. Sometimes we just says, God. God says go, but they don't know what you went through for God to tell you to go. So that, that, that 18th chapter of Genesis is not where it starts, does it?
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Dr. Oscar Williams
He's wrong. Y' all just say this together. He's wrong. He's wrong.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
He's wrong.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
The crazy thing about what you said that's so true is that anytime any preacher is preaching, all of us hear the same thing from a different angle.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Yeah, yeah.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
God loves you so much that he'll protect your business by giving you a word in your spirit. While she has one word on stage. You got a whole nother revelation at your seat. And it blew my mind. Sometimes I dig into God's word so deeply from a numbers perspective. Because when God called me initially, Dr. Oscar, I just wanted to make sure that I was prepared.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
That's good.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
And I would read God's word so much in college and throughout that all of a sudden it took my friends to say, hey, man, do you really have this chapter memorized? Do you have this book? I didn't. I was like, well, I guess so. And then I started counting scriptures that were. I'm not saying you have to do that. That's no qualification for a preacher or anything like that. It just helps me know to where what. Where scripture is. I mean, it's in my head. I won't bother. 38, 260 words that's in Genesis. It just. It's in my head. The word Genesis means beginning. So everything you read in Genesis sets up a pattern for the rest of the Bible. We're in Genesis 18, but it sets up a pattern for all 11, 89 chapters, because it's 10 telling you that God speaks to Sarah. She was not Sarai. Her name was Sarah. The Hebrew meaning for the word Sarah means princess. Noble woman, could it be possible that you are a queen, but you're treating yourself like a prostitute? That's too rough to start. But I'm just talking to you. Could it be possible that God is using the character Sarah to let us know that her name meant queen, noble one, but she didn't really believe it on the inside because she's. She's got all these facts about herself. Let me balance it out. This means that you could be a man, and God could be calling you noble, integral, mighty man of valor like Gideon. But you see yourself as a pimp. You see yourself as low. You see yourself as the whip. This text is a reminder that God is calling the greatness that he's sown into you. The last thing I will say because I feel loaded is because I'm next to saved people here. Dr. Oscar will just say, Pastor Sarah so eloquently in this text begins to weave like your grandmother's quilt with the threefold cord. I would see my aunts and my grandmothers weaving those cords together. It is a tradition that came from slavery. While they were waiting and humming and singing songs and praising God, she's weaving the text together. And then about 38 minutes in, she says, Sarah had this long track record of facts. Oh, God. And you smell good. You tapped in our online audience. You look good. You got all these facts about your life, but you don't have truth.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
That, man.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
That is last thing. Could it be possible that all of the facts, our shortcomings, our failures, need to be transitioned and turned into power? This sermon is a reminder of the greatness that God hid in you since you were a little girl and you were a little boy, and. And I'll just leave it there.
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Pastor Sarah
You know that. Yeah, it was amazing. If we can dive a little bit more into kind of where you were going. So, historically, Genesis is one of my favorite books, and the Abraham faith journey is one that I've kind of studied. And in looking at this, when you said it doesn't start in chapter 18, it doesn't. Because Abraham gets this promise in chapter 15. It starts there. And Abraham is about 6, 76 years old. What I love about. What I love about what Pastor Sarah did Sunday is that she reminded us that when we read scripture now, we read it through a lens of a. A westernized understanding, a westernized optic. So how we do in 2025, and we look at it that way and, oh, my goodness, why could they say that? But we don't understand fully all of the traditions and the customs. And the other thing she masterfully did is she reminded us that at this point in Abraham's life, Abraham is being introduced to a God over and over again. She laid out all of the myriad of gods that were roaming the earth at that time, the false gods, and how God was establishing his name in the earth through his people. And he was using Abraham as a witness to who he is. So we can't go come to the story thinking, oh, they had all of this experience with God. They are getting to know God based off of what he is giving them. And so in chapter 15, when God comes to Abram at the time and says, I'm getting ready to make your descendants as many as the stars in heaven. Now you got to think about that as Abram gets this. At 76, Sarah is younger than him. There is a possibility that this can happen. And what's interesting, the Bible says Abram laughs before Sarah laughs. His posture is different when he laughs. When he gets the word the Bible says he falls on his face and laughs. He falls in worship. And it's almost a laughter, as if God, would you even do this for me? His laughter is different from Sarah's because his laughter is not about being a skeptic. His laughter is, oh, my goodness, you would find this type of favor in Mia that you would bless me with a seed in earth. Even at this age, Abraham doesn't know what he's signing up for because he's 76. Now walk through this story because it gets to a point. He becomes now 20 years have almost passed and the promise still has not happened. To the point where Sarah is saying, well, maybe it's me. Maybe I'm holding up the promise. And so let me intercede and you go get Hagar, because maybe that's how God is going to do it. It sound familiar to anybody's life. Maybe God needs my assistance. In all honesty, I'm not trying to say that God is not going to do it, but maybe, maybe the way that he said it, maybe I didn't hear it right. And so I'm going to help God out and let's do this. And we understand what happens with Hagar. And then Now Abraham becomes 99 and 100. Now you have to understand, almost two decades have passed and the promise still has not happened. And then God comes back. This is where Sarah comes into the play. And now when God says it, now Sarah is laughing and Sarah probably is saying, where were you 20 years ago? We tried this. It didn't work. This is the same thing we heard 20 years ago. This is the same story I've been hearing. This is the same person that came and said, and all these years have passed. All the people around us have seen promise and we have not. So when you think about her laughter at that moment, you can tap into a little bit more understanding that she was, Pastor Sarah said, suspicious of God because is this really going to happen? And the Bible says she laughs within herself. And I wanted to give that to, to piggyback on what you were saying. Because when we look at the story, sometimes we look through a lens of knowing the end when we read the beginning, not putting ourselves in that same place and say, how many things have God promised us that we're still waiting on to come to pass? And we ain't talking about a week, we ain't talking about a day. We're talking about some of us been waiting on years. Some of us have been coming to this same altar for years, saying, God, when you gonna bring this child back? God, when you gonna bring this business to fruition? God, when you gonna heal my body? God, when, when, when, when, when? And then God brings a word. And you may not do it on the outside, but in your heart, skepticism lives and says, I've heard this before.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
It's so good that when you say that, Dr. Oscar made me think that he gets that promise 20 some odd years later before there's even another conversation about it. So that now becomes a template that God will give you a word before he gives you manifestation. But what we can't do is be distracted during our waiting season. Because the one thing that we do wrong that God does right, God does not utilize the word time. We do. Yes, time is boundaries for God. God has no boundaries. So in our mind, it was decades. For his mind, it wasn't decades.
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Pastor Sarah
Absolutely.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
So when God makes you a promise, it's already manifestation. So once he said it, it has to happen. We now minimize God to time. When are you going to do it? He was going to do it when he said was done when he said it. We can find God, said God, now what day are you going to happen? Because we do this thing called 24 hours a day, seven days a week. God says, I don't operate like that. When I told Mo, when I told Abraham, it was a promise, the promise already was going to happen. But now we have to have the mindset of studying God's word to know, okay, God, it's not how you're going to do it. It's. I'm just waiting on the manifestation of what you said you're going to do. But the devil interrupts that with distractions, depression. I told you he wasn't gonna do it for you. Well, he's gonna do it for me because I'm still alive. His word cannot return to him void. So for me, when Abraham laughs, when he gives that laughter, it is that posture of, I cannot believe you thought that much of me that you would let me have a child at this age in my life. And some of us have given up on what God said because we fall under the circumstances that we think God is really concerned about our current condition. God does not care about your current condition. Your current condition has nothing to do with his promise. Because the promise still going to happen. But we got to find a word, continual word that says if God said, it is going to happen. If God said it is going to happen. If God spoke, it is going to happen. If God said so. I'm not looking at the rain. God said it is going to happen. God spoke it. It has to manifest itself. I'm not confining God to a word called time. God says no, when I said it, it was already done. Had he spoken, shall he not make it good? God is not a man that he should lie. But we hold on to waiting on seeing it. Here's the thing, y'. All, when he said it, we should have saw it.
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Pastor Sarah
Can I add something to that? The, the, the idea of all of our journeys is that God, just like he did with Hagar, God is allowing us to name him.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Yeah, yeah.
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Pastor Sarah
And, and, and so our experiences were. The reason I think it took Abraham and Sarah that long is because one God was establishing them as the pillars of faith. And if God is going to use us to be a representative of him in the earth, it causes for us to go through things not for us, so that people can see another nature of God through us.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
2.
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Pastor Sarah
It causes us for us to gain more knowledge of God and name him. You can never name him to be a healer if there was never sickness in your body. You can never name him to be a provider. If you were never in need, you can never name him. God is taking us through not so that God can prove Himself to us, but God is wanting us to see him and all of his nature. God is saying, if you want to see me in all my sides, it is through how you walk. Walk with me through every season of your life. I'm going to show you a different name of who I am. I'm going to show you a different side of who I am. And every side is not going to be conducive to your life. Some sides are going to be rough. Some sides you're going to have to wrestle with because you're not going to understand this side of God. But if you just stay, he's going to reveal who he is to you. He's going to reveal his name through your struggle and your situation.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Jeez, this is gonna make me start running. Pastor Don, you talked about time. I think time is the stenographer of glory. I think time is God's way of giving us a chance to timestamp and. And mark how many times we give him glory in the process. All of us have this great potential, but the reason we don't perform at the level of our potential is in between potential and performance is pain. Life will always take you to a cross. Don't tell me what you did when you were on the mountain. I need to know how you got through. Don't tell me what you did when they gave you the medal, the scholarship, when they honored you. I need to know what did you do before the wedding? What did. Oh, God, Can't. Oh, yeah. Can't. Can't. Can we just talk? I've been married a long time, but I have not forgotten days. Lord have mercy. What do you do when the church and people and the pastor and the Bible, you're trying to be holy and do right? What do you do in the process of waiting where it seems like lust is your sparring partner?
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Pastor Sarah
Come on.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
What do you do when you're waiting on the manifestation of the business and the loan didn't come through? You're fighting with the sba. Can we just talk honest now? You're trying to get customers and clients and it's not as easy as they said on ig, Tick Tock and every other infomercial. What in the world do you do when you have sold your money in the multi level marketing? Oh, never mind. I'll leave it on. What do you do when you have given, you have been coached? You went to the owner online training class. What do you do when it seems like God has not come through? Because in the process of this waiting, we often blame ourselves and could it be possible that it's not your fault, nor is it God's fault, that it's just a matter of time? And in the midst of you waiting in this process, you have to learn how to give him glory even when it hurts. Help me out because I'm so good. I'm trying not to step my foot over. There's a glory zone when you're hurting. Yeah, there's a glory zone. We were talking about it earlier today when. When you lose somebody, your worship is at a whole nother level. I learned that David didn't write the Psalms and really until he got into Second Samuel, chapter number one, after he decided, discovers the death of Saul and his best friend Jonathan. Then David begins to pin all the Psalms because it was at a moment of grief. Why does it take us to be so low for God to raise our spirits so high? Talk back to me. I wonder what you would do. Oh, God, if you never had any trouble, Would you be in church tonight? Would you be logging on? I just wonder, would you how. What would your prayer, prayer life be like if you didn't have fire? And the thing that caused you to burst in tears on your knees? I'm talking about the kind of tears that fall down both eyes and cause your tears to shake hands underneath your chin. I'm talking about the real kind of pain and trouble that'll make you hide your face in the pillow at night. Sarah is in a predicament. So instead of crying, psychologists say we either cry or laugh. She laughs.
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Pastor Sarah
Come on, come on, come on.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Listen, I'm about to tell you to step over there and keep running. Because not only is that good, because that, that helps us deal with the humanistic side of ourselves, that there come time where we struggle with what God has said to us. Now, maybe that's just me, but there have been times where I have struggled with what God has said. But his grace and his mercy allows me to struggle. And he never lets go of the promise. Which means even though I'm going through it, God still opens the door for me. You were talking. You made me think about something. Then we're gonna get into this video clip with Pastor Sarah is that Abram has a situation with his son. He goes to kill his son. The angel says, stop, don't do it. He says, no, look over there's a ram in the bush. And we always say, there's a ram in the bush. And there was a ram in the bush.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Bush.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
And he says, this place shall be called Jehovah Jireh. In other words, I found out who he was when I was in a void spot. But I got a question for you. Is the place called Jehovah Jireh for Abraham or Isaac? Because he's the one about to get killed. He's the one laying on the table and I'm fault giving it to Abraham. But every now and then I put myself in an Isaac situation and said, I almost died, but God provided for me. I came up with a name with him when he almost. When I almost lost it. That's why I found his name. Because everyone in has their own personal testimony. I established the name based off.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
I almost.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I almost messed up. I almost almost did it. Forget this.
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Pastor Sarah
I did do it.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
But he's grace and his mercy established a new name in finding that name. And the Bible says in verse number nine, then they said to him, okay, I'm not gonna bother that. No, no, no, no.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
We need to tag team this mini series because what I just heard you say is that I'm not just going through for myself. Yeah, you've been feeling sorry for yourself and you don't even know that God is using you as a model of manifestation station for the miracle to come in somebody else's life. You've been selfish the whole time. Lord have mercy. It. Is it possible that we've been selfish the whole time, waiting on our blessing, not knowing whose faith we were cultivating in the process? Oh, Lord.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Because Abraham, give Isaac a word. God will provide.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
We're not gonna act right tonight. I'm just.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
No, I'm putting this.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
We're gonna do this.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
We're gonna do this because Dr. Williamson got us started with this whole analogy of understanding the beginning in Genesis and how it works. Because we now look at Sarah, we look at Abraham, and most people look at where they are now. And we read it through western eyes already knowing the ending. And that's different when you read a story or knowing the ending of the story. But what about when you have to walk through the story? When you're walking through the story, when God is still establishing the story? Because in verse number nine, you don't understand. This is Abram entertaining visitors. So in other words, he's being hospitable.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Yeah.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
So it says to me, God manifests himself through visitors. So it's not like God manifests himself through a voice. So be careful who you entertain and how you entertain people. Hebrews 13. Because you may be entertaining angels unaware and you don't know it. And you. You're judging people in as God is still working through them. Because what's happening is now you see me now, but you don't. You see me unfinished.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Come on.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Come on. Oh God.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
See, I'm waiting on him to Jump in. He's a rocket. First of all, this. This is beautiful because this masterfully ties in the beginning of the intro where she starts talking about parenting.
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Pastor Sarah
Yeah.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
In other words, we're looking at a. We're looking at the text from Western eyes thinking they already knew God, how they knew him. This is how you saw your parents. But you didn't really know all the struggles that your parents went through. Your children don't know all that you've gone through, even some things you've hid from your children. Some of them you were ashamed of, some of you. You didn't want them to go through. But God is now saying, wait a minute, just how you think your parents arrived and your kids think you arrived. I didn't just arrive in your situation. You going to have to go through something.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Go to the video, because we'll. We'll be good.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
And when we begin to see that this Old Testament was told on a particular backdrop, it helps us to understand just why our God stood out amongst that religion. The New Testament itself, too, was being told on the backdrop of a Greek Roman world, a Greco Roman world in which there were Greek gods like Zeus, Zeus and Aphrodite. There were all other gods that were in the mix. But when we read the scripture, we don't realize that Jesus is speaking about being the one and true living God and talking about his relationship with the Father on the backdrop of those who were worshiping to the gods of the water and gods of the sea. That's why what he said was so profound. We go back to the Old Testament. I need you to understand that what Israel was saying was unique because they were not just saying that we have a God because having a God was not uncommon. What they were saying is that we have the one true and living God. Oh, God's gonna help me. The God that I have is not like your God. I don't have a God for the sun and a different God for the storms. I don't have a special God for fertility. I don't have a different God for war. My God is God all by himself. He spoke the sun into existence. I don't need a separate God when I want the rain to come, because my God is in charge of the season, the storm. Jesus stepped out on the boat and said, peace, be still. Who is this that the winds and waves obey him? Why did they ask that question? Because in that world, there would have been a different God for the storm. But this is the kind of God that is the God of peace and the God of the storm. This is a different kind of God. The God of fertility is not the same God as this God. This is a God who is unique and stands alone. Above him there shall be no other. These words make better sense in context when you realize that other people were praying to different gods for different things. All of a sudden there came this God of Israel that says, I shall have no other idols before me. There came this, this God of Israel that said, you can trust on me for anything you need.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Listen, do so. Dr. Oscar, that goes to your point, what you were talking about. God is introducing himself so we can name him. So we can name him through our experiences and situations.
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Pastor Sarah
And you know what's interesting, because we have developed our own mini gods even in 2025. And God is pulling down all the idols that we have created. The God of our job and the God of our money and the God of our intelligence and the God of our degrees and the God of our titles and the God of our denominations and the God of our mega churches and the God of our many churches and all of these gods that God is still showing. When you put your trust in that, when that fails you, you're going to come back to the one and true God. He is still establishing his name in Earth, on Earth. And he is still, still using you and me to establish his name. Anything that he's going to do in Earth, it's going to take us to do it. And I keep coming back to this point because I keep reminding myself in every season of my life that God is only showing me another side of him. That there is not a storm that I will see that God has not already calmed. But God wants me to see that he's the storm chaser. That's why I'm walking through this. There is not a bill that God has not already already paid and provided. But God wants me to rely on him and not my job. It is only building my faith so that I can name him something else in a new season.
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Paige Desorbo
Why?
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Pastor Sarah
And I'm reminded of this is not in the text, but it's something I've been studying. It's. It's when Joshua. You all remember when Joshua takes over from Moses and, and, and the Lord says to Joshua, gather 12 stones so that when your children ask, what are these stones? You can testify. That's why you're going through what you're going through. You got to gather a stone in every season of your life because God is going to send somebody your way and say, how did you get over that, you better look back at your stone and say, that was the stone of the healer that got me through. God is going to send somebody your way up and let them know, listen, I'm going through a season and I don't know where God. God is. And all you're going to be able to do is look back at the stones that you've gathered and be able to say, this is the God that brought me here. And his name is Woo. And his name is. That's why he says, I will be what I will be. There is no name, Moses, that you can give the people, because every name that you come up with will be short of who I am. So if they ask you who I am, just tell them whatever you need. That's what I will be up and through. Through this journey, I'm going to show you different names. I'm going to show you different circumstances. You're going to be able to add so many names as you walk through this thing with me. That's why we go through. That's how our faith is built. That's why God is not trying to convince us he's God. God is trying to show us. You said you want. We sing it all the time. Show me more you got, Give me more you got says, okay, I'm going to show you more of me. But you think I'm going to do it while your hands are lifted and you're in worship. No, I'm going to show you more of me when you go to get to work on Monday and you're dealing with those hellions, and I'm going to show you a piece that surpassed all understanding. That's who I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you on Tuesday when you go into the doctor's office and he gives you a diagnosis that you don't know how to deal with. God says, I'm going to show you that I am Rafa, the God that can heal you in every situation. That how I'm going to show you more of me through your daily walk.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
So. So since.
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Pastor Sarah
Since.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Since you validated and okayed, we can borrow other scriptures. You borrowed the Old Testament. I want to borrow something from the New Testament. If I. If I could. You borrow Old Testament, I want to borrow new when God will use you the face of somebody else so somebody else can see the God. I'm reminded in Acts 28 when Paul is bitten by a snake. The Bible says, the barbarian said, surely this man is a murderer. If the sea did not get him. Justice is going to kill him. Catch this, y'. All. But you need to see. The barbarian are saying the other gods, the God of the sea didn't take him, which is Neptune. Surely he can't escape another God, the God of justice, which is Ninus. So he escaped two gods. But God is really was saying, no, no, no, no, no. I' ma show you the one and true living God. I' ma let you hold up the snake and shake it off. And the Bible says. And the barbarian said, there is another God. And oftentimes God will use your snake bites. God will use what you went through. So some of you saying, God, use me. He said, okay, let the snake bite you. Because here's the thing, because I want to show you something. You won't swell up and you will not die. You got one thing to do tomorrow at the job. You got one thing to do. Come tomorrow. When you get there, you got one thing to do in your mind. Shake it off. Because here's the text here. Because I want to show you something. The Bible says God is now showing he. They're renaming a God. He says, the barbarian. People do not know me as Jehovah. They only know Neptune. They know Ninemus. They don't know me. So how can I get them to know me? I gotta let the devil bite you. And I gotta show them the results of what would happen.
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Pastor Sarah
Can't happen.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
The text says you should have swollen up and died. Wait a minute. If he bit me, that literally means there's venom in the blood. I'm sorry. Then there's a blood rejection. So not only do I show your name, I'm gonna show you how the blood can block it. So. Okay, we're not gonna do that. We're not. This is Walk It Out Wednesday. Somebody shout, the blood blocked it. The blood, the blood. The blood blocked it. If you read the text, this is not about the snake bite. This is about an introduction to show the world who God is. And every now and then you're crying about a snake bite when it really should be advertisements. Because, baby, I got the scars and I kept on walking. They said I couldn't make it without them and they took a bite of me. But I kept on walking. And now I'm in a life. I can show you. I know God because I don't dance because of what he did. I dance because of what he kept me through. I'm not. I'm. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I did not mean to do it.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Like seen such Great preaching. In all of my. My life.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
This is the introduction of God.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I think the simplistic portion for me and what my brothers have just articulated is this is why you must survive.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Oh, yeah.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Your survival is the advertisement of who God is to somebody else. You are a walking billboard of glory. I. I'm tempted to preach. I wanna, I wanna behave. I wanna. Because y' all already, you know, y'. All. It's. It's amazing because you're talking about the different aspects of who God is. We don't know who God is until we determine who he was. Who was God. First of all, it's a privilege to even be tested with the test, because this means you survived the last test. And if you're really smart, what you will do is say, devil. It's not about what I'm facing. It's what about. It's about what I came through. What did you come through? Death, disease, heartache, car wreck, relationship breakup, suicide. All these bullets flying. But you're still here. I think all my brothers are saying is, this is the reason you must survive. Do what you want. Cry, complain, pray, fast, worship. But the sum total must be your survival. We need you to survive.
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Pastor Sarah
Can I add something to that?
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Absolutely.
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Pastor Sarah
Because God is going to make you laugh again. See, see, see? The story doesn't even stop in 18.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
Come on.
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Pastor Sarah
Because if you read to Genesis 21, after Sarah has the child, she says these words, God has made me laugh, and all who hear it will laugh with me. God can take your laugh of skepticism and he can turn it into a laugh of praise. Because this time when Sarah laughs, she's laughing at the fact that God has given me my joy back. And every time I tell this story, everybody's gonna laugh with me. Every time you tell your testimony, they're gonna shout with you. Every time you tell your testimony, they're going to cry with you. The first time you cried, you were crying in despair. But the next time you cry, you're going to cry tears of joy. God is getting ready to change your emotion. You were crying in. In depression, but God is getting ready to make you cry in celebration. He's getting ready to make your laughter turn into something that is so infectious that everybody that hears your story is going to laugh and say, God did it again. God did it again. That's where the survival comes from. Because if Sarah had stayed in that moment of being a skeptic, she would have missed out on the opportunity for God to make her laugh. If you, if you stop believing now, you will miss the opportunity for God to get into your heart and change the very emotion that you thought was going to take you down. If you give up now, now you are going to miss how God is going to take everything in your life and make it make sense. You're trying to get it to make sense right now. God is saying, if I can get you to not focus on it making sense right now, but holding on to that level of faith, that mustard seed faith, to know that one day you going to look back on this situation and your laugh is going to be different. It ain't going to be the same laugh. Your cry is going to be different. Ain't going to be your shout is.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Going to be different.
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Pastor Sarah
I know you come down to the altar and I know you, Neil, and I know you crying and I know you in despair. But one day you going to come down to this altar and we ain't going to be able to contain you. Because you're going to know that God did something for me that only God could do. And Maybe it took 10 years, and maybe it took 20 years, and maybe it took 30 years. But when God's timing gets right.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
That what you two just said brought me to verse number nine in the scripture. While we shout, while we dance. Dr. Oscar, you said, don't give up. God knew. Sarah laughed on the inside. So then my question, this is why we do walk it out. So my question is, if you knew she laughed, why did you ask the question in verse number nine? Where is she? Before you try to do what you think God wants you to do, you need to know where are you?
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Dr. Oscar Williams
You.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I'm not talking about topography. I'm talking about in your head. Are you really ready for what you've been praying for God for? Are you praying for something you're not even prepared for? Where are you? You can't run out of the building with an emergency without a map. Them to. They say, you are here. This is how you get out. My question is, do you know how to get out of whatever you're in right now? Now he says, where are you? God already knew she was going to laugh. But where are you, Sarah?
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Pastor Sarah
Where are you?
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Where are you in your life? Where are you with your financial decisions? Where are you in your. Your. Your relationships? Where are you? God? God's going to do it. Yes, I want to shake it off. Yes. I'm not going to give up. But the question is, where are you? Mentally, psychologically? Where are you? God is not going to give you anything that's Going to kill you. Maybe the delay isn't demonic. Maybe the delay is that you hadn't made right decisions and God's trying to change your thinking. So you think shouting brings it? When God is saying no, it's not to shout. I want to know, where are you? Where are you? In the tent.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I love it. Because before we go, I need to say this before we take a look at the another clip. We often, all of us, have been guilty of it. We have a rhythm of. Or we have a routine and a rhythm of repeating and rehearsing our stories.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Yeah.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
So sometimes you would rather lick your wounds rather than face the thing that's really keeping you from stepping into God's promises. You would rather blame God and say you're waiting on God, you're waiting on the manifestation. Because really, Marian Williamson says it this way. She says our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are deeply powerful beyond measure. Could it be possible that you're afraid of how powerful you really are? And you would actually have to change your routine of repeating your failure? Could it be possible?
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Let's get into that next clip.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
The God of Israel is different than the other gods that existed at that time. He wasn't just mighty enough to command the seas and the sun. He was holy too. You see, it's one thing to understand God is mighty. It's another thing to understand him as holy. That means. Means that his power is directly connected to his holiness. That means that there is no moral failure in my God. That means that my God is whole. He's not jealous of me. My God is whole. He is complete. My God is powerful, but not powerful for the sake of being powerful. My God is powerful enough to let His Holiness invade the earth. If you touch my God, you'll become whole. If you touch my God at the anything in you is broken. It'll rise to the surface. Because my God is different from your God. I'm sorry that in your God you got a bargain and you got to set out bowls and you got to dance all night. All I got to do was call his name. My God is different than your God. I got a kind of God that you wouldn't quite understand. And when I tell you he's holy, I'm telling you that the angels bow down before him. When I tell you that he's holy, I mean that there was something in me that was broken by sin. But I let him, in my life and His Holiness, fix my brokenness. He's not just powerful, he's Holy. He's gentle with me. He knows my soul. He orders my steps. He speaks the word and it is complete. He is not just mighty, he's holy. He's a different kind of God. You got to see it in the backdrop of what was taking place in the Old Testament. They had never heard of a God like this. You've been hearing about this God for so long that you take it for granted. But I think some of us just need a reminder that he's still the only God standing. Zeus has gone away. Aphrodite has gone wherever she has gone, but my God still remains. You know why? Because he is the one true and living God. And you gotta know who your God is. And you have to know the distinction of your God from the other gods that people will try to convince you or God. No, that's not God. I tried it and it didn't heal me. That's not God. I had to work up on it. And my God says, if all you have to do is have faith, it's not even about what you do, it's about what you believe. My God is different. He has complete moral perfection. He is holy. He's not a man that he should lie. He's holy. He's not so drunk off of who he is that he cares about who you are. Matter of fact, my God said, I'm gonna make you in my own image, be holy, for I am holy. He's not threatened by me. Other gods back then, they'd be threatened.
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Paige Desorbo
Threatened.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
God got jealous of you. My God. Don't get jealous of me. My God provides for me. My God reaches down into his resources and goes ahead of me so that I lack nothing. I have a good shepherd I know no lack.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Well, I don't think I should have picked this clip. Omg. Sometimes it makes me want to preach. And then sometimes it makes me want to think. If I look textually, I can say he's the light of the world. I can say, my grandmother used to say, God is a bridge over troubled water. He is the resurrection and the life. He is my daystar, my bulwark, my fortress, my shield. He is the God. God. He. Oh, God. He's the mighty God, the Prince of peace, the everlasting father.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
It's. It's.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
It's. It's tough to think about this without juxtaposing it in terms of the brilliant scholars of our day. And I can understand why people worship stars. I can get it. I do understand. I can understand why they worship plants, because what they are looking at is great creation. I can understand why they worship the universe. But why would I worship the universe and the stars when I could worship the God who made the universe and the stars? I think it's just. I was just thinking one day and I thought, man, what if God created the Milky Way because it is the milk of his word? What if God created Pluto because just in case he needed a cup of ice from the cold planet he could pull from wherever he wanted to to. What if God allowed us to discover Uranus because he was trying to make us say Uran? What if God created Neptune because in this nebulous place and in this nebulous life we would understand that God was still with us? What if God created Jupiter because he's big and massive? Jupiter is the largest planet. He's big like glory. He's massive like manifestation. He's amazing like one is. What. What if God created Saturn because before Larry Bird, before Steph Curry shot a three pointer, God created Saturn which has a ring around it. God is so creative. I think God is super fragile, casually XP alidocious. I think God is amazing. I think he's auspicious. I think he's ostentatious. I think God is stupendous. What if God created Mars because Mars is the red planet. Red like the shirt, but also red. Red like blood. Red like the blood that was on the inside of Paul because what was on the inside of Paul was the very antidote that was making him be healed because the snake had to back up. I wonder if the snake died. I won't bother that. What if God created Mars because it's the red planet and everything he did in scripture was reminding us of the blood. What if God created Earth because it's the blue planet? The blue. The water. It is the washing of the water of the Word by where we out of your belly shall flow rivers of what living water? What if God created Venus because Venus is hot? Venus does not always. It's hot on one side but the other side does not always rotate. And I often thought this is my flesh and my spirit fighting against each other. Because sometimes I'm rotating toward church, but sometimes I'm rotating toward me. What if God created Mercury because Mercury is the hottest planet. He's hot like the Holy Ghost. He's hot like fire. Fire. He's. I just. I just. When I start thinking about God it be like Pio New Jack City calling. Be calling. Be calling me. God is a different type of God. Cuz when you. You. You cannot be pulled by other people's opinions of your God. If you got to go to the bathroom and in the stall and. And start worshiping at work, you gotta tap into your God. They're gonna think you're crazy, but keep believing in God. God is different. That's why you've been going through different things. Strange things, strange warfare, different attacks. Because your God is different. Last thing she said, he's whole, he's complete, he's holy. Oh, my God. I've never seen God ever want anything. Oh, God. I'm sorry, but I just. It.
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Pastor Sarah
It's brainy.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Take your time.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
It's just brainy for me. You do know one last thing. You do know that when God said, let there be light on day number one, there was no sun.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
On day number two, he creates the firmaments, the separation of the clouds. Day number three, he said, let the dry land appear. Day number four, we see the sun, the moon, and the stars. Why would he create the sun on day number 4? 4. If he said, let there be light on day number one, that means he's the light. Baby. Your God is different. And when we get to the book of Revelation and it's all over with, there will be no sun and no moon because his light will just shine and glory will be there. We've got to tap into who God really is. God is in your child. God is in your dreams. God is in your vision. God is on that lawnmower you're pushing. God is in that tight. Oh, God. God is in the. In your graphics. God is on that social media that you're tapping into. God is in the people that have been talking to you about what's on the inside of you. We cannot limit God to a box. And I think in this message, this was a warning for us not to be.
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Pastor Sarah
Sarah.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
To limit God to age. Don't limit God to age. Don't limit to him to your gifts and your talents. Don't limit God to what you have not seen, because he's just God.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
And. And that's the problem, Pastor Dobbins, because we put God in a box. So much so that if we don't see it, then it can't be. Which means our sight is our limitation. So then the excuse is, I'm old. I'm past my time. Well, here's a. Excuses are the fruit of dry ground. Yeah, Think about that. That. That's an excuse. That's not God. When you know who God is, how you saw him is totally different than how I see him. And you're not wrong. And I'm not wrong. God, there's a manifold blessings of God, which means he shows us himself in many different ways. But we think he only shows him this way and that's the. The only way it has to happen. No, cuz all of us didn't get saved in church, on the altar call. Some of us got saved like Pookie. Some of us got saved in the club. Some of us got saved walking down the street. Wherever God decides to manifest himself, that's where it happens. But we can't judge people. We can't come down on people because they didn't get it like we didn't get it. Because God is saying, I'm.
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Pastor Sarah
I'm.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I'm operating differently now. So when he says, listen, you pass your age. No, you pass your age according to man's standard. But when it comes to what God says, God says, I will take something that you deem dryful and I will make it fruitful again. And that's why I try to tell people all the time, stop making excuses because you don't think it's going to happen. Maybe this won't happen. No, it's not going to happen as long as you say it didn't happen because we say God is. Let me explain this to you.
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Pastor Sarah
God.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
God is not gaining or losing power. God is power. There is no gaining. Well, it's past time. No, it's not pastime, Sarah. You laugh because you thought it was past time. Well, you didn't know who power was. But once you've been introduced to power, you can't unsee God's glory. So that's why it's important to walk it out. That's why it's important that we have these discussions. Because I may not have seen him like you saw him, but once you.
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Pastor Sarah
Talk about it, I can.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I can see him that way. I know he's a healer. I know he's a deliverer. And everyone here has not gone through the same thing. That's why it's important you give your testimony. Because you show me another side of God that I didn't know. Oh, he brought you out of that, girl. Let me tell you what he did for me, man. He did that for you. Let me show you what he did for me. All of this is a culmination of God. That's why you don't forsake yourself for the assembly of coming together. Because all of us, all the manifestation of God is you're not God with God more because you black, because you white, because of your denomination. As the truth be told, I won't even get into denominations. How we get into this, God in Genesis says, listen, I'm looking for a family. And it's our job to make sure that we're a family and how do we help each other? How do we see God? How do you see God? This is how I see God. I would have never thought to see God, how Pastor Dobbin just saw God. I barely passed science. I didn't even remember them.
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Pastor Sarah
Okay?
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
That is a Mars out there. There is a Saturn out there. Okay? He was. He brought me back. I'm like, wow. But you made me think, man, there's another side of God that I have not tapped into yet. Imagine if we did each other like that. Imagine if we had those conversations.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Dr. Williams is going to jump in. He said, he said, he said, go, go, go, go. He said he won't say go to the next clip. But I just wonder real quick, do you guys think this is an intro to evangelism? Because we often judge how people see God and what they worship and what they idolize. And we don't see that what they idolize could be a bridge for us to show them who the true and living God actually is. I see young athletes. They're God of sports. They're God's football or basketball or track and field or volleyball. Some people's Gods of money. But I think when you tap into everything that you're looking for is going to be in God Almighty. I think it becomes an evangelistic tool.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I'm like, Dr. Williams, let's get to the next video.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
The question is, are you willing to lay down your facts to lay hold of his truth? Are you willing to build an altar with your facts in exchange for his truth? This is a critical moment in God's plan. And this critical moment in God's plan. God wants to make sure that every participant will have the correct heart posture so that the plan can be executed. You don't have to figure out the math of how it's going to be done. You just need your heart postured in alignment that it's done. Do you understand? And some of us get caught up because we think we have to figure out the plan. No, we don't have to figure out the plan. We just need our heart aligned with what the plan is. So what you have to ask yourself is this. Why is it hard for me to believe what God is saying or what God is willing to do?
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Pastor Sarah
Has anybody asked themselves that question. We would call that a Selah moment. Even Sunday, that question hit me in the gut. Because there's a passage that man talking to Jesus says, father, I believe, but help my unbelief that all of us have a measure of faith that allows us to believe. So far, we all have a comfort level of belief. I believe that when I go to my car, it will hopefully turn on.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Praise Jesus.
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Pastor Sarah
I believe that, you know, when I go to work, you know, I'll be able to do what I'm supposed to do. I believe this. I believe this. We all have that metric level of faith, but then there is a level that surpasses where our belief is. Because maybe we've never seen it. Maybe we saw it happen. And this is that set the record straight. And maybe because it didn't happen for anybody around us, it has now diminished my ability to believe. And the reality of it is, sometimes God will say things to you about you. That because you have accepted the facts of what your life has been so far, you have canceled out the power of the word of God over the facts, which is what truth is. This is why I think we struggle with salvation or struggle with coming back to church or struggle with serving. Because in our minds, the enemy does a great job of replaying all of the facts of our life. Some people have not stepped out on the water, stepped out of the boat, because there's something telling you you're going to sink just like the last person. Don't go back to school. You're too old for that. Don't start that business. Everybody that you know started a business failed. You know it's too old for you to get married. Just give up. Don't go down there and get saved. Cause if you walk down that aisle, everybody gonna know you did something. Don't you go back to that altar again. This is the third time you went to that altar. They gonna start thinking that you sinning. All of these things that are trying to outweigh the truth of who God is. And that question, I wanted to pose that question again. I wanted to bring that up because she says something after this. In your consecration, in your prayer time, I encourage you to ask God, what is it in me that's keeping me from believing what you are saying to me? Something has to be off. If I'm singing about, I trust you, God. The other Sunday, we sang Trust. What was that song about? Trust. We sing it, I trust in God. I mean, and the church went up. I mean, y' all was trusting Y' all was trusting strong. I mean y' all was all out in the aisle just I trust in God. I ain't never seen all. Everybody that couldn't sing was singing loud because. Because we are attracted to in the moment what sounds good. It sounds good to say I trust God. It sounds good to say he always provides. And we cry because I believe in our mind we're fighting because we really want that to be true. We've just never seen it.
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Pastor Sarah
And when we leave this place of glory, we wrestle with the word, fighting with our soul, our emotions. And if you don't get anything from this moment, get this Selah moment that God is saying, stop making me fight the facts that you've accepted. Sarah, I want to know where you are, Sarah, because I want you to hear what I'm saying. I don't want you to get a second hand Sarah. I want you to be in earshot because when I say this, I already know what your response is. I'm going to challenge you with your response. I'm going to make you be honest. That's why he says, sarah, why did you laugh? She laughed inside. Sarah denied it. He said, yes you did. Because I want you to be honest. I'm not afraid of your honesty woman at the well, I'm not afraid of who you came here with and who you going home to. I'm trying to let you know that I'm not afraid of your past and what you've done. Because my true superstition precedes everything that you've done in life. And if I can get you to be honest with yourself, because you can't worship me if you're not going to be worshiping me in spirit and in truth. So I'm trying to get you to be honest. Because when you lift your hands, I don't want you to have any shame. I want you to understand that my blood covers your past. I've already wiped that away. I've already put my word over you. That cannot be diminished because it can't come back to me until it accomplishes what it was sent out to do. So if I spoke it over you, it has to come to pass. But the only person that can stop that word is you if you don't believe so, Father, I believe, but help the area of my life that's struggling to believe.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Man, you were talking in that Celan moment. And listening to you talk, Dr. Williams made me think about the importance of data gathering. In other words, data gathering is what information is overloaded in your head. Because what you continue to say to yourself and what you allow people to say to you, that you receive will affect how you see and what you believe God. For as you were talk. As you were talking, I thought about Genesis when they said we were naked and ashamed. And the first thing God says, he doesn't correct that he asks him a question. Who told you that? It seems to me God would have said, okay, you naked, ashamed, let me cover you. Which means the covering wasn't a problem. What was in their head was the problem. Who have you been talking to? What data have you been gathering? Who told you you were neck? I never gave you that information. Who told you you couldn't make it? Who told you you had to always live in poverty? Who told you that you was too old? Who told you you couldn't write the book? Somebody has informed you of something that's contra distinctive, totally awful of what I told you. I told you you were the head and not the tail, but you still hang out in tail spots. I told you you was above and not beneath, but you still decide to sit below that. So now if you choose to sit there, that's not God's decision, but what he's saying is, who told you that? What data have you been gathering? And the problem with some of us is not the outside, it's the inside. What are you saying to yourself in that selah?
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Pastor Sarah
Moment.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
What is. What are you struggling with saying? God, I don't know if I can make it. Why? Why don't you know that?
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Pastor Sarah
And who are you allowing to talk to you? Because the who told you revealed that you've been talking to somebody that was lying to you. Eve, you've been taking data or information in from somebody who was sent to deceive you. And because you allowed your ear to be inclined to somebody voice that's not mine. Now you're confused about what I told you in the beginning. And now you showed up in a situation naked when I've already clothed you. Because what you need to be clothed is right behind you.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
And it. And.
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Pastor Sarah
And I want to tie it to this question that we have.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Because which is good.
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Pastor Sarah
Which says how do I lay down my facts in exchange for God's truth? You have to stop listening to the liar of your soul. If we could ever believe that everything that the enemy will tell you is a lie.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Yeah, everything.
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Pastor Sarah
Everything that the enemy says that's contradictory to the word of God is a lie. Every time the enemy tries to bring up a picture of you that does not line up with the fearfully and wonderfully made person that you are, it is the enemy and he is lying to you every time. There is never a time that the enemy is going to tell you something is true. Who is the enemy? Sometimes the enemy is you. Sometimes you are listening to your emotions and your emotions lie to you. Your emotions tell you don't go to church because it's raining and you stay home. Your emotions tell you don't want to give because you don't have it. Your emotions tell you don't your emotions lie to you because they are subject to your senses. So if you want to exchange God's truth and take lay down your facts, you have to then guard created me a clean heart.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Yeah.
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Pastor Sarah
And renew a right spirit. God. Something has got into my heart. Something has infected my heart and I need a heart transplant. I need a whole new heart. God, give me a new mind. God, work on these things in me. Because I recognize the truth of what I am living out is what somebody told me about myself or what I lied to myself about. And I need you to do surgery on me so that I don't live out what I believe.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
There is a intentionality about that surgery that you have to want it. I want to be different. I desire to be different. And sometimes you can engage with a conversation too long that it changes how you see things. Because in that same text the Bible says he talked so much and he said, and when she saw that it was good, which means sometimes somebody can talk to you so long that you change how you see see. And I'm afraid of. We come to church, but then we talk ourselves out of blessings. We come to church and we talk ourselves out of healings. So we play church. So we play like we're we. As you said, we lift our hands. But what are you saying to yourself? It's so important.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
No, I agree with you. I was just going to tie in that other question as well. Because what happens with Eve in the garden is, is that to your point, she talks to the serpent. So long till therefore she gets into the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the pride of life. She saw that the fruit was desired to make one wise. She saw that it was saw, see lust of the eye, that it was good to be eaten. Okay, lust of the flesh. I agree with you regarding. How do you lay. How do I lay down my facts in order to exchange my truth? Another portion. I hope your question says, what do you do if your family's judging you, other people judging you on past mistakes? Every time somebody judges you based upon your past, it is actually an opportunity for you to give God glory. They just set you up to testify. They just gave you another way to praise God. They just became a stepping stone to your promise. And I don't think it is often times, for instance, the 36 year old, it is the six year old. I think my, my counselor used to say this. He said, you've got to meet the little boy. Stop talking from the man perspective. You need to go meet the little boy who was first hurt, who first closed doors, who first stopped believing. And then when you meet the little boy and upgrade him to where the man is, you can develop. One of the questions says, what do you mean about all souls are mine? All souls belong to God. This comes from Ezekiel 18 and 4. You'd have to read the several verses to see this. This ties in. When God says, all souls are mine. God is talking to parents at that time. He's giving a prophetic word. He says, no longer shall the fathers eat sour grapes and the children's teeth be set on edge. No longer shall you be determined by the mistakes of your parents. He says, all souls are by. He says, I can correct your parents, I can bless you. I can correct you. I can bless them. When the Bible says all souls are mine, this is God saying, I care about the least of them and you don't say it often in church, but sometimes your opinion of yourself is not as high as it should be. So God sends a woman or a man of God to raise your opinion to where it needs to be. The problem is, once your opinion is raised, everybody else's is still low. So now you have to train people how to come up high and treat you right. You train people how to treat you based upon how you treat yourself. All I would say is stay high and don't come low. My wife told me this years ago. She said. She said, baby, the Bible says don't think more highly of yourself than you ought. I was like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, duh, duh. But she says the Bible never said don't think high of yourself, though you still need to be thinking high of you and not low.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I want to add my own little personal slogan. I don't know if it's right or wrong, but this is me. This is just me. This from the book of dawn, chapter 16, verse number 38. When people say stuff, they sit like, well, you think you're better than me? I said, no, I don't. I'm just a better me than I was when I was with you. I'm not better than you. I'm just. I think more highly of myself, which causes me not to do the things that I wouldn't normally do. So I'm not better than you. I'm just a better me. I'm a better version of myself. So please don't condemn me because I'm thinking myself how higher. I don't do that anymore. I don't want to do that anymore. So when I come around, you want to talk about what happened 20, 30 years ago, I don't want to have that conversation because that lets me know that's where you still are and I'm not knocking it. That's you. I want to talk about how to become multi millionaires 30 years from now. Can we have that level of conversation? So it, so it, it.
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Pastor Sarah
It. It's.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
It's a game of knowing I. Thanking myself highly of yourself. And I am. There's a thin line between confidence and arrogance. I am humble enough to know that if it had not been for the Lord, where would I be? And that kind of leads to one of the questions. And this says, my question is, what do I do when those doubts come creeping back in to my life or the hard days? Which scripture do you suggest I go back to? That's. That's from Erica. First of all, I love the Fact, she. She said, what scripture should I go back to? Which means she knows the word of God.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
It's in you. Bring it out, girl. Bring it out back.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
But for me, now, this. Personally, for me, anytime I find doubt creeping in, I always find myself in Philippians chapter four.
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Ryan Reynolds
That.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
That's me. What sovereign things are true, what some things are just. What if they have good report? The Bible clearly says, think on these things.
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Pastor Sarah
Think.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
In other words, that's a commandment. This is what you should think on. So anytime doubt comes in. All right, all right, pd. All right, Don, what's going on? Find something truth in that now. Which means I got to dig for the truth, which means now I got to get into the word of God. I got to get into me. Okay, what did I do wrong? What did I do right? And I think sometimes we want to deny it. While I confront it, I confront me. I'm sometimes the greatest enemy is the inner me. All right, now, you know, you shouldn't have thought about that. You know you were wrong when you did that. So doubt will creep in. So for me, the biggest confrontation is falling back to Philippians and confronting my own self.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I agree with you. To tag team with Philippians, I'd give two scriptures. Erica. First of all, I love this, because this is Bible study, and we should just be able to lay out the word and not entertain. Right? I hope you're taking notes. Philippians 4. He's rocking. And especially like verses 6 through 10. I love it. Now, Philippians for me is Philippians 1 and 6. God, who hath begun a good thing in you, shall perform it unto the day of Jesus Christ. In other words, God has not forgotten you. Philippians 1 and 6. But one of my favorite texts will be Psalm. I love the Psalms. I just. I love them. Will be Psalm 10, verse 1. Why do you stand so far off in times of trouble? This is David asking an honest question. God, I'm starting to doubt you. Why do you stand so off for so far off in times of trouble? And God showed me. It's like him standing back saying, look at my boy. Look at my girl. I don't even have to be as close. I don't even have to make them feel me, because I'm so proud of them, and I trust what I put in them is going to come to pass. You think trouble is triumph. Excuse me? You think trouble is a trial, but God is saying, no, the trouble is a triumph.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Yeah, that's good. That's good.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Does that make sense? God is sometimes Standing back because he trusts you with the trouble. I know y' all say, God trusts me with so much trouble.
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Pastor Sarah
God, balance it out. God balance it out.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
But this means that tragedy can become treasure. This means that pain can become power. This means that all the opposition you face, all opposition is is opportunity in hiding.
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Pastor Sarah
You know, I wanted to highlight this question. It's going to read, how do you quit? But I think the writer meant, how do you quiet the noise so you can hear God's truth about you? And I wanted to highlight because one of the things that I recognize, even in this fast that we've been on, is that a lot of times.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Well, I'm sorry, just a sec. Have you eaten any sweets? Because. How you doing? How you doing? It's accountability check. Just me, you, and, you know, thousands of viewers.
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Pastor Sarah
We got 30 seconds. Let me answer this. Check. Help.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Church.
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Pastor Sarah
Quiet the noise. Let me quiet the noise. See there? Servant in action. You. But. But in this fast. Pray for me. We got two more. Well, how many days we got?
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Three.
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Pastor Sarah
I thought it was Saturday. It's Sunday.
- [76:29]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Oh, Sunday.
- [76:30]
Pastor Sarah
Holy Ghost.
- [76:31]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Sunday, 21 days.
- [76:31]
Pastor Sarah
Holy Ghost, Holy Ghost.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Can ye not. Can you not pray for one hour?
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Pastor Sarah
It be hard out here.
- [76:38]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Church, Church. It'd be all 21 days.
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Pastor Sarah
Here we go. Well, you know, we all count different, you know, 20, 21.
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Paige Desorbo
You know.
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Pastor Sarah
See, they getting off subject. Okay, listen, how do you quiet the noise? So one of the things is fast really revealed is that anytime you challenge your flesh to give up something that you want, you know, a lot of.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Us, we do good.
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Pastor Sarah
First day, cool. Second day. Oh, yeah, listen. Me and God, all the way. Me and God. Third day is a little shaky, but I'm gonna stick in there about that six or seventh day, that flesh gets noisy and you start to see where the noise in your life is actually coming from. Noise. Sometimes we think, and this goes back to. You hear me. A lot of times talk about frequency. Sometimes the loudest frequency, you can't hear with your natural ear because noise sometimes is not about the loudness of. Could be an emotional loudness that you have not tapped into. And when you subtract it from your life, you see how loud it's been in your life. You stop looking at social media or you stop eating sweets or you stop doing whatever it is that you say. I'm going to deprive my flesh, flesh myself of this. And it'll get to a point where you will see how loud that thing has been, how influential, whatever it has been in your life. And so the question is, how do I quiet the noise so you can hear God? So that I can hear God's truth about me. Well, one of the things is you have to deny. And this is you. Whether. Whether it's through fasting or sacrifice or whatever. But there is a. There is a circumstance vision of your heart that has to happen in order to see the revealing of God's truth. We have become so comfortable in westernized church where we feel like if I just scream loud, God's going to show me what I want. If I just shout loud, if I just give a lot, or if I just keep showing up. We don't want to be uncomfortable. We want God to come down to where we are are and satisfy my need to know you more. I don't want to come up to where you are. I don't want to give up anything, God. I just want you to meet me where I am. And God is saying, pastor, lay down. So a holy God does not have to come down. It was in the year King Uzziah died that I saw the Lord. And he was high and lifted up. He was not low. Lift up your heads. Oh, behold ye gates and be ye lift. Everything about God is high. Nothing is low. You keep looking for God in the wrong place. You keep trying to find God in your lowly state. God is saying, I'm trying to get you to come up because I'm not coming down to that place where you are. You're have to circumcise your heart, circumcise your thinking. You're gonna have to cut away some stuff. If you really want to know who I am. It's more than just a song. I'll cross the highest, hottest desert. No, you won't. You don't even come to church when it's raining. You singing about for your glory. I'll do everything. You lying. No, you won't. Because if you really meant that, that's why I stopped singing certain songs. I'm like, God, if you hold me true to this, I'm going to fail. No, because. Because. Because I think you would rather me be honest.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Yeah.
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Pastor Sarah
So that now I give you something to work with than giving you a fairy tale that I'm not living out.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
No, go ahead.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I think this is first of all, I'll add nothing to that. He had. He done corrected me. I'm gonna repent and everything else. No, I would tie in what you're saying and how to quiet the noise. Hope to Jessica's question, how do I keep God in My daily life. How do I know? How do I start to know the difference between what God wants and my own? I think you talked about it. I think it is about doing a daily devotion when you first wake up. Super simple. Thank you, Lord. Hit those knees. I don't care if it's 5 seconds, 10 seconds, it will build to 5 minutes. 10 minutes. I'm not saying you have to spend the first five hours of the day, but if it's five minutes, thank you, Lord. And doing a daily devotion, reading the word of God before everything else comes at you. And I know we pick up our phones first. Who called? Did I miss any? Just before we do anything else, thank you, Lord. And start reading your word so that you can get your instructions and your directions. And I think it will start curving the noise down.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I want to add another layer to that because sometimes quieting the noise is not based on whether the volume goes down. And I'm trying to say this without preaching. There's a young man in the Bible by the name of blind Bartimaeus that needs something from Jesus.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Preach it. Preach it.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
And the text says he cries out for him and the people told him to be quiet. And then it takes as he. He cries out the more, which means sometimes you may have to cry a little louder than the noise to drown it out. So when the devil says you can't make it, you got to talk above that. So sometimes you don't quiet it, you drown it out. So when he says, I need you, which says to me, how did he even know God was coming by? What did he. What information did he have that says, I'm not going to miss this kairos moment? And so many times because we miss devotion, because we don't know how to silence the noise. We miss the opportunity in passing by and we engage in conversation with the people who's making noise and who can't make a difference. Because what I'm not going to do is give energy to anybody who can't make a difference in my life. Why? Why am I talking to you? Be quiet, Blind Bartimaeus. I've already asked you. Last year you couldn't help me. Last year, you only helped me temporarily. And this one time, this moment, this man is coming by who can change my life forever. Why am I wasting time talking to temporary people who can only help me temporarily? Give me money today so I can come and beg again tomorrow. I'm through begging. I'mma talk above the noise. So that is a realm of silencing. The noise also because sometimes the devil will not stop talking and sometimes you are the person that won't stop talking to yourself. You ought to look in the mirror and tell your own self, shut up. Shut, shut up six year old, shut up. No, you can't make it stop. Stop talking.
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Pastor Sarah
Why?
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Cuz Jesus is passing by and I need to get to church so I can have an encounter with him. I need to get into the house of God so I can have an encounter with him. Because the only thing I want to know is thy Son of David, please have mercy on me. Because what he'll do is the same people who tried to hinder you to tell you to stop the noise. He'll say bring them to me, bring him to me. And here's where I want to end with what you just said. The Bible says and he takes off his garment to come to Jesus that's being intentional which means you got to take off where you've been when you get requested into his presence. God doesn't care about where you cannot out evil God's goodness. He doesn't care what you did on the way here. He says, I just want you in my presence. I want to, I want a daily devotion with you. I don't care because you was high last night. Get up in the morning and talk to me. Tell me how good I've been to you and watch what I do for you. And that's when it becomes so critical that we now it is walk it out. Where we gather facts, where we start saying no, I don't want, no, no, no. What is the truth? What is truth? The truth is what is truth? I won't even bother that. What? What is the truth? What is your truth? What? What is your truth? Stop letting disqualified people answer that for you. What is your truth? My truth is I'm the head, I'm not the tail. I'm the truth is these blessings gonna come upon me and overtake me. The truth is I know the God like Pastor Siri that's holy, not the God that I treat like Santa Claus. If he doesn't give you a new house tomorrow, he's still God. If he doesn't change your bank account tomorrow, he is still God. If he doesn't cure you from everything you've been praying about, he is still God. And make maybe he's allowing doubt to creep in your life so he can show you another side of himself to say I'm a God that'll keep you even in that mess. And I feel like my grandma right now. He God is a keeper. Yes, he is. Baby, I'm not crying about stuff. He's a keeper. Yes, he is. So. So for us, even in this moment I'm sitting here thinking about almost implies that it's our responsibility. It's up to us. It's up to us to get into the word of God, finding ourselves around people. To set the record straight, I'm not who I used to be. As a matter of fact, I'm so much not who I used to be. I know what God is calling me to be. And if you don't align with what God is calling me to be, I don't need you to be in my ear. And that is not proper English or vernacular. But if you're not in alignment of what God is calling me to.
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Pastor Sarah
To be.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I don't even need you to be around me. That doesn't make you evil. That just simply means you're not a part of my next level assignment. And I'm so concentrated on what God is calling me to be. Guess what? You may fall off. And that's okay. You're not assigned for the next season of my life, and that's okay. Stop trying to make temporary people permanent. Who's talking to you in this year season of your life?
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Pastor Sarah
Who?
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Who's talking to you?
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Dr. Oscar Williams
No, no, you. I. I think you should have went ahead and preached because you really preached. Because you. You make me think of that text blind. Bartimaeus has his own responsibility. The text said before that he heard that Jesus was passing by. So you have a responsibility to hear God. The reason why some of you are frustrated, some of us are frustrated is because we heard God say there's something greater. Thank God that you at least heard it. And it's amazing. He's blind, but he can still hear. God never lets everything go down at the same time. Thank God for what you do have. If you thank God for what you do have, you can go get what you should have.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
You. You know what I want to do that's so good is there.
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Pastor Sarah
If.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
If you are in season in your life to, to where you're frustrated, not frustrated in a bad way, knowing that God has more for you, but you haven't fully tapped into the potential of what you know God is calling you to do. I want you to rest on your feet. If you're saying, God, I know you. There's more in me. I've been wrestling.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I've been.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
But there's also a season of frustration in my life that's frustrating and I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. It happens in my life to where I'm saying, God, I need more of you. I. I'm. And again where I'm trying to be sensitive in the approach of saying, God, I know there's more. I find myself in the wrong circles. I find myself desiring more. And I'm thinking to myself, God, what is this in my life today? So what I want to do, real briefly, I want to do an altar call. I want to do altar call for kiss this frustrated people. It's not about your salvation. It's not about what you're believing God to do in your life. It's like, God, I know there's more in me. I know there's more in me. Maybe I made some bad decisions, I made some critical mistakes, or maybe I'm the only reason I'm keeping myself out. But today I'm sitting there like blind Bartimaeus saying, thy son of David, please have mercy on me. And if that is you, I want you to make your way to this altar. I want you to make. I want you to make. I want you to make your way to this.
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Pastor Sarah
This.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
To this altar. Cuz. Cuz here's what's important. Dr. Williams said it. He says there were 12 stones. This altar is a stone. Every time there was a manifestation of God, he says, build an altar right here. I think one of the things we did, viewing through Western eyes, we think coming to the altar generally is for people who's sinning. We think, oh, well, I'm not saved. And that's why you come to the altar. Now, there is a version. There is a version. There is one reason why we come. However, that's not the only reason why we come. Sometimes we come because we have a stone to lay that altar. And I believe this. I believe with the number of people that sit on this altar that God has an assignment on your life that God wants introduce you to a better version of yourself. What God is saying, I know where you are, but watch this. I create you to be agitated too, so you won't be stagnant and get satisfied with where you are. And sometimes the devil fools up and say, get comfortable where you are. Comfortability is a trick of the enemy that causes you miss the next assignment of your life. I'm comfortable with. No, no, no, no, no. God is agitating you so he'll let you get depressed. He'll let you get doubtful. You're not the only one that's never doubted before. We all have doubted as A matter of fact, let me. Let me see. No, I haven't doubted in the last like 48 hours. Yes.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Been.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
It's been a long time since I had some doubt in my Life. Something about 48 hours, but that's the truth. But guess what I can do. I'm not gonna stay there. I'm not going to stuck wrestling with the devil to cause me to miss the next word is. God is speaking over my life. Oh, I'm frustrated. Okay, guess what, God, what do you want out of me in this season? What are you calling me to do? Why am I feeling this way? So psychology. They teach me to evaluate my feelings, my emotions, what's happening in my life right now. And that's what God is doing for you. I want to prophesy to everybody in here that there's a better version of you. There's a better version of you. There's a better. There's a better. I'm not saying you're bad, but there's a better version in you. There's a better. And you are ending 2025, getting ready to move into 2026. And God wants to enter the new year with a new version of yourself. And I'm declaring there is a that aversion on the inside of you.
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Pastor Sarah
I don't.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I hear you, Holy Ghost. I don't know who this is for. God says there's still enough time left in a year for me to do what I promised. I don't know. I don't know who that's for.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I don't.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Online. I just heard the Holy Ghost. He says there's still time left for me to do by the end of the year what I promised I was going to do in 2025. So have your mind going into 2026, but it's still. Still time left. There is still time left for God to fulfill the promise. As a matter of fact, maybe he wanted you to hold on for these last 12 months. And he says I'm gonna do it right in the nick of time. So, Father, today we pray. Not just over everyone that's here on this altar, but those who are watching us online. That God, that you're so gracious, that you introduce us to a better version of ourselves, the God. Oftentimes, like Sarah, we all laughed. We laughed in doubt. We laugh wondering, God, if you really can do it. But we thank you for the grace of getting us past the laugh. Because in that scripture, God, you say, you will certainly return, which means you are true to your word and for everyone that's here, for everyone that's watching God, we declare over the hand that you have placed on our life that we're getting ready to be introduced to a better version of ourselves. We are not past our prime. We are not past age. We still can carry. We still can birth. We still can prophesy. We still can be millionaires. We still can write books. We still can see our children healed. We still can be healed. We still can walk in abundance. The devil is our liar.
- [93:12]
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Paige Desorbo
Of $45 for three month plan equivalent to $15 per month required new customer offer for first three months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes if network's busy, taxes and fees extra. Cmintmobile.com hi, it's Paige Desorbo from Giggly Squad. You ever stand in front of your closet and just say I have nothing to wear while you're literally surrounded by clothes? Because same so I started listing pieces. I'm over on Depop and honestly, it's been amazing. You can sell what you're done with and someone out there will love it. And the best part about it is there's no seller fee, so the money you make actually stays in your pocket, which feels very chic. It's also insanely easy. I listed something while watching TV and it sold before the episode even ended. So download the Depop app and list your first item today because your old outfit could be someone else's new favorite. Depop where taste recognizes taste. Payment processing fees, boosting fees still apply. For more info visit depop.com.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Thy son of David, have mercy on us. We thank you God for open doors. We thank you for preparing us for the open doors. We thank you for the anointing that's on our life. God, we thank you for giving us strength to shake off the snake that bit us. God, we thank you for the oil that's on our lives life that allow us to keep walking in the abundance that destroy the yokes of the enemy. We come against every plan of the enemy. Satan, the Lord rebukes you and the blood of Jesus is against you God anoints us from the crown of our head to the sole of our feet. Forgive us for the wrong that we've done and let us walk into the abundance of what you promised God. Most of all, we ask you to help us forgive ourselves. Help us forgive our own sins for the wrong that we did that we can't even forgive our own self for. Help us to forgive our own self so we can move on past what people did to us now. God, we thank you. We give you praise, we give you glory. We give you honor. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. If you believe there's a better version that you're about to be introduced yourself to, I want you to give God the best praise you have in this place. Ah, nah. That. That. There's another side. There's a new me. There's. Allow me to reintroduce myself there. There's a new. There's a new me. I'm gonna think different. I'm gonna act different. I'm going to walk different. I'm walking out of 2025, going into 2026, baby. There's a better version of myself. What you say, Holy Ghost, you going to look at me next Sunday? I'm going to be a whole new person. I'm be living in a whole new place, a whole new mindset. So it's not just me driving my car, it's my mindset that's going to be different. I'm thinking different. No more poverty. No more poverty. No more poverty. No more poverty thinking. No more poverty thinking. No more poverty thinking prosperity, not money, but a mindset. I will not be the same. I see myself different, which means now no one can talk me out of what God is calling me to be. I can't even talk myself out of it because there's a better version of me. There's another version of you that you're getting ready to get introduced to. Let it come out. And those who are called to be with you in this next season of your life, invite them in. And those who are called to exit out, God bless you. Thank you for helping me last season. God bless you. No, I'm not mad at you, but God bless you. Watch this. As Jesus told Judas, go, hurry up and do what you need to do so I can be introduced to a better version of myself. And I'm declaring and believing. Find somebody and hug them a high five and tell them, this is a new me. It's a new me. Put it in the comment. It. It's a new me. It's there's a movie, there's a, There's a new me there. There's a new me there. There is a new me there. So listen, we're getting ready to get out of here we're getting ready to get out of here as a new me. But here's what I want you to do. I want you to grab your tithe and your offering online. Grab your tithe and your offering right now. Grab your tithe and your offering. I want to say this to somebody, I said it before, it's worth saying again. To exit one season of your life means to enter into another season of your life. I'm going say that again. You cannot exit without entering. Anytime there's an exit, there is also an entering. So if God is telling you to exit out of one season of your life, you automatically entering into another season of your life. But the thing about it that as we control how we exit and I believe this, that seeds or exit out of one season that allows you to enter into a new season. You cannot walk into a season of harvest unless you had a season of planting. I'm going say that one more time. If you get a harvest that you did not plant, that's called stealing. God is saying I want you to plant it. And today that's what we're getting ready to do. We're getting ready to plant so we can exit out of one season, enter into a new season. I don't know about you but I can, I could, I could really do for increase in my life. I could really do. I don't know about you but I can use some increase in my life. Somebody shall increase. I can use some. I can use some increase. Well guess what? I gotta exit one season and enter into another one. So listen, if you raise your hand I'll PMT because glad to serve you. If you're online, if you're watching us scan the QR code or there's ways to give it a text to give. You can give every way capacity. It's going to be a blessing. I am declaring. Somebody says me I am declaring. I am getting ready to walk to a brand new season of abundance. I'm a declaration guy. I believe it. I you you come out house. We declare things in my house. I believe we declare things and things just happen. Our oldest son called us yesterday. He called us yesterday and yeah I'm gonna give you a testimony. I know you're watching because your testimony is my testimony. My oldest son called us yesterday.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
He, he, he's.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
He's entrepreneur. And he needed this contract. And the contract was a. A big contract. So he called yesterday. He said, daddy, I. Me and the wife, we prayed. He said, but we wanted you and mama to pray. He was like, okay, so we'll. We'll pray, no problem. He said, no, I wanted you to pray because God really hit y'.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
All.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
So even so, you, you using my prayer life. Like, what are you. What are you doing? He said, catch this. He said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Watch this. It's a blessing being connected. So yesterday I prayed. I did. Hey, we prayed. Prayed over him. Wasn't selfish, wanted him to do it. Contract was nice contract, nice con, Nice contract. Prayed about it. So today in my study time, he called. I think I saw all 47 of his teeth, the one he lost and the new ones. So he facetime us. She, mom over there laughing. She said, what God done did? He said, wait a minute. Let me pull over the car. I just want to let y' all know. God answered the prayer of abundance. I got the contract, and it was for the entire space. I said, wait a minute. I was praying for one building, but they gave me the entire space. Okay, okay. Which says to me, you can be praying for one thing. And God says, I'm getting ready to enlarge your territory. So, you know, your mama went to shout hallelujah. Hallelujah. She went to Holly. I was like, ah, no.
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Paige Desorbo
Hallelujah.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
You. How much money you gonna send me? I'm joking. He said, I'm gonna send you something, Daddy. I said, boy, you must got a lot of money if you're gonna send me something. But no, I, I, I say that jokingly, but I say that the importance of a seed, how sometimes your seed goes beyond you, but to the next generation. I am so glad God is blessing my bloodline. I'm so glad God is blessing your bloodline. So today we're not sewing just for us. We're sewing for our bloodline. That God will bless my children's children. That God will bless my children's children. I want God to bless the grand, great, great, great grands that I never even meet. I want it to be traced back and say, boy, your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great. Granddaddy, he left something for us. See, we have that type of mindset. That's what sewing does. So listen, since we're ready to give, we'll hop up all.
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Pastor Sarah
We're ready to.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
We're ready to give.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
We'll hop up all over the building. Hop on and give somebody shout. I'm ready to give. Father.
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Pastor Sarah
Over.
- [103:56]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
The seed that we're sowing, whether it's online or whether it's in this place, that the seed does not stop with us, that the seed produces a harvest that blesses our children's children, that God, that we don't sow out of just doing it to do it. We do it because it's a principle that you're going to give back to us some 30, some 60, some a hundredfold now, God, for some of us, let's not wait until 2026 to do it. Do it over the next few days. Do it over the next few hours. Do it by the time we get home. Do it by the time we wake up in the morning. Let increase be established as we give you the praise, the glory and honor. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Take it. Offering title. Pass to the left, to the left, to the left. Pass it to the left. Watch it walk all the way down. Don't pass, we say. Don't pass your phone down. Don't pass your phone down. To the left. Pass it to the left, to the left. Pass it to the left. The left. Pmt. Serve the people of God. Pass it to the left, all the way down. There you go. All the way down to the left, to the left, to the left. I won't leave this place. I will not leave this place without first giving someone who does not know Christ and the pardons of their sin. Whether you online, whether in this building, if you don't know Jesus, if the sky cracked open right now and you don't know if you'll make it to heaven or hell. I'm not asking you to join the Potter's house. I'm asking you to join the kingdom of God. And if you don't know Christ as your personal savior, Savior and the pardons of your sins, do me a favor. We don't want to embarrass you, but I do want you to raise your hand. If you're in this building and you heard us talk about walk it out Wednesday. I want Pastor, I want to know this Christ. If you're in this building and you. I don't want you to leave here and not have the opportunity of knowing Christ. If you're in the building, I want you to raise your hand. If you're in the building. If there is one.
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Pastor Sarah
If there.
- [106:01]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
If there is one. If there is not. If you're online. If you're online, you can join Today, you can accept him as your personal savior. Just simply put in the comment, I want to be saved. I want to. I want to be saved. I desire to be saved.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
It is.
- [106:16]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
I want to be saved. I want us to stop making being saved as some type of taboo ritual. That's difficult to do. It's accepting Christ as our personal savior and getting in line with the rest of us is that we're gonna all make some mistakes. But guess what? This flesh dies daily. This flesh absolutely dies daily. So one other announcement that I want to make sure I give you. This Christmas Eve, we are doing something different. Not our usual walk it out Wednesday. Not. I'll use the Wednesday Bible studies. It's going to be from our house to yours. It is a virtual. I'm gonna say that again. It is a virtual. Let me read. Repeat that again. It is a virtual Christmas special created to bring you peace, hope and prosperity to your home. It's going to be worship. It's going to be teaching. It's going to be storytelling. It's going to feature music from our worship team. It's going to be a seasonal word from our bishop and first lady and our pastoral team. You don't want to miss it, but it's going to be virtual streaming@tphd.com org YouTube it's going to be on YouTube. It's going to be on YouTube Christmas Eve, the 24th. Listen, do not come here sitting at the gate. Wait for the church to open. It is. I'm telling you, you're going to be. You're going. You're going to watch it from the gate. We are not meeting in person. We will not be here next Wednesday. Please catch us online. It is from our house to yours. Us. You don't want to miss it. I am so excited about what God is doing. Getting ready to introduce you to a new version of yourself. And if there is nothing else, I want us to get ourselves together. Come on. Yeah.
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Pastor Sarah
Come here. Come on. Come on.
- [108:03]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
He ain't got you.
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Pastor Sarah
You know, I. I was wrestling in my seat, just apprehensive about this, but I just want to just drop this. It was burning in my spirit. And it might not be for everybody, but I just hear the spirit of the Lord say that God is going to make you laugh again.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
This is.
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Pastor Sarah
This is for somebody. Just. I want you to just receive it in your heart that for the years that you have sewn in tears, that you have gotten to a place in your mind and to your heart, that you have put way recessed in your mind. God, it'll never happen. And I just heard God say, I was wrestling with it and I couldn't let this moment pass and be in disobedience without just dropping this seed in somebody that God is getting ready to make you laugh. And this laugh is going to be different. This celebration is going to be be different. This victory is going to be different. It's going to be a laughter for something that he told you a long time ago. And you're going to laugh. Say God, you remember that? God.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
God, you God.
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Pastor Sarah
God, I thought you forgot about that. God, I thought that was gone. God, I thought that was over. God. God, I gave up on that a long time ago. God. I did. God. And I just heard the spirit of the Lord say, get ready to laugh again in and for everyone that hears your story, they're going to laugh with you. Receive it in your heart. Receive it. He's getting ready to make you online. He's getting ready to make you laugh again. I know you've cried. I know you've had years of crying and years of despair and. And years where you felt forgotten and not seen in years where you thought people looked over you and all of these things happened. And I know you are dealing with all of the failures that you have and all the times that you tried and it didn't work and all the times that you came to church and it didn't work. But he's getting ready to make you laugh.
- [110:18]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
So, Father, we thank you that if we leave this place, but never your presence, sir patient, your angels around us and keep us until we meet back again at the appointed time, we shall always give you the praise, the glory and honor. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Listen, as you are leaving here, find everybody you can and say, God's gonna make you laugh again. God's. God's gonna make you laugh again. Find somebody, tell them God's gonna make you laugh. God, don't. God is going to make you laugh. You've been listening to the Potter's House podcast. If this episode encouraged your faith, walk it out with authority. Until next time, Be blessed.
- [111:09]
Narrator/Commercial Voice
Dashing through the store, Dave's looking for a gift. One you can't ignore. But not the socks he picked.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
I know, I'm putting them back.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
Hey, Dave, here's a tip. Put scratchers on your list.
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Ryan Reynolds
Oh, scratchers.
- [111:21]
Dr. Oscar Williams
Good idea.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
It's an easy shopping trip. We're glad we could assist.
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Pastor Sarah
Thanks, random singing people.
- [111:26]
Narrator/Commercial Voice
So be like Davis Holiday and give the gift of play.
- [111:30]
Dr. Oscar Williams
Scratchers from the California Lottery.
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
A little play can make your day.
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Dr. Oscar Williams
Please play responsibly.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Must be 18 years or older to.
- [111:38]
Paige Desorbo
Purchase play Acclaim hi, it's Paige Desorbo from Giggly Squad. You ever stand in front of your closet and just say I have nothing to wear while you're literally serving surrounded by clothes? Because same so I started listing pieces. I'm over on Depop and honestly, it's been amazing. You can sell what you're done with and someone out there will love it. And the best part about it is there's no seller fee, so the money you make actually stays in your pocket, which feels very chic. It's also insanely easy. I listed something while watching TV and it sold before the episode even ended. So download the Depop app and list your first item today because your old outfit could be someone else's new favorite. Depop where taste recognizes taste. Payment processing fees, boosting fees still apply. For more info, visit depop.com the College.
- [112:26]
Pastor Sarah
Football Playoff is everything. Toughness, growth, sacrifices.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
This is where i50 everything you got all that day. The attention to detail is like none other than we are.
- [112:39]
Pastor Sarah
The Tulane takes on Ole Miss, followed by James Madison in Oregon.
- [112:44]
Pastor Benchard Dobbins
It's time to bring it first round coverage on the College Football Playoff presented.
- [112:47]
Pastor Sarah
By allstate Saturday at 3:30 Eastern on TNT and HBO.
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Pastor Benchard Dobbins
Max, are you ready? Let's go.