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Pastor Corey
This is the Potter's House podcast.
Pastor Don Dobbins
We're here to keep you filled with
Pastor Corey
the Spirit and guided by the scriptures.
Pastor Don Dobbins
His sermon titled Sunday Stripped down to everything. I feel like we. I don't know about you. I feel like we've been stripped down. Did anybody. Can anybody just get. We've been stripped down. You can have your seat. You can have your seat if you can. If you want to stand up, you can listen. This is that type of service. Whatever you feel like you need to do, if you need to walk the aisles, if you need to go find a pew and pray, if you. The altar is always open. The altar is always open. Get what you need. Pastor Dobbin said, get what you need. I see you. I see you. Thank you, Father. We have been talking about, which is so in line, this life after resurrection, this road to Pentecost, this journey. And what I have learned, and I'm, you know, curious, is that many times when we start to really seek after God, these walk it out Wednesdays have really been moments where we not just seeking the milk, but the meat of the Word. I love what God does because he comes and fills us. And we have been searching for understanding, to understand God, show us this journey. We don't want to just get to Pentecost and shout because there was this infilling. We don't want to get to Pentecost and shout because it's a liturgical day on our calendar. But we want to take a journey so that we understand why we celebrate Pentecost. Does that make sense? Many times I think in church, we. We. We gloss over the fact that there are many phrases, many words, many statements, many sayings that we've heard over the years, but there is no root of them inside of us because there's nothing to anchor them. And what I appreciate about what we've been doing, and I hope that you all do, is that we've been trying to help you anchor in the Word. You feel that we're trying to help all of us anchor in the Word. So as we do each week, we invite the questions, whether it's online or whether it's in the house. Maybe this is your first time coming. This is a very interactive and engaging what we call walk it out, where we invite you to ask questions on the spot. We invite you to come. If something has convicted your heart or touched your heart or pricked your heart, we invite you to come to the aisle. Our deacons are in the aisle, and Pastor Cora may even slip out there.
Pastor Cora
And.
Pastor Don Dobbins
And because we want to hear. Because that's how we learn. That's how we grow. Amen. So, man, how was we gonna start this off? Just calling Jesus, I guess. Go ahead, Pastor.
Pastor Cora
Well, I think, Yeah, this is.
Church Member or Participant
It's.
Pastor Cora
It's weighty. How do you talk after God has talked? So everything we say, if anything, must be an echo of what the Spirit has already told you. So for many of you, whether you're online or you're in the audience, lift your hands. If this is. This feeling is just confirmation, this glory, this praise is just confirmation. Because when I think of the title Stripped down to Everything, we normally say Stripped down to nothing, but we're now Stripped down to everything, which reminds me of Adam and Eve, that they did not need the outer accoutrements of what they put on themselves. And it's crazy, because we started doing the first Wednesday of the month as a worship night. And God said, okay, y' all gonna box me out. Just do. Walk it out Wednesday said, let me just come in and break in. And this is a reminder that God just broke in. And this leads us to our text. When we get to John, chapter number 20, the disciples are locked up for the fear of the Jewish leaders. After Jesus has been crucified and Jesus just walks in the room, he just breaks in. God will break in on fear. God will break in on anger. God will break in on disappointment. God will break in when you have given up. And tonight, I don't know what was going on with you, but I know what was going on with me, which is why I was walking the altar. He broke in and delivered me from some things and help me release. So that's all I wanted to say,
Pastor Don Dobbins
because I ain't seen you run like that in a while. You ain't ran like that in a while.
Church Member or Participant
Listen, you know, y' all be having.
Pastor Don Dobbins
He used to run when he was an elder, but y' all be having
Pastor Cora
me handcuffed up there and passed his role, you know what I mean?
Pastor Don Dobbins
Put you back on the floor so you can run.
Pastor J
You need a good runner, you know,
Pastor Don Dobbins
a good runner, you know, you have to have a good runner, you know, I wonder if as we look at the disciples, because a lot of times, these experience that we had for them to walk with Christ and to experience Christ in such a way. And we get a glimpse of that when we come into his presence. What I love about studying the Gospels is that we find the character of Christ show up differently. And as you talked about Thomas or even the Book of John, I wonder if sometimes people think, what is the difference between the Gospels? Have you ever asked yourself that question? Like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. And we have some accounts that show up in all of them, but then we have some that only show up in one particular book. And what I love about the Book of John and Pastor Dobbins probably can tell us how many pages and, and how many letters and how many numbers and how many red letters and all of that. He can do that because John, in particular, the book of John, before we get to that, if we can contextually talk, is intentional about showing the deity of Christ. So what's interesting about the Book of John is that when you read it, he does not start like the other Gospels. He does not start talking about the birth or the childhood of Jesus or a lot of that lineage. John starts with these words. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He just jumps right into the deep end of the pool. Because John's Gospel, different from Matthew, Mark and Luke, John is accredited as being the disciple that Jesus loved. So it is the Gospel that gives us a first person look at what it was to walk with Jesus. That's why the wording is a lot more intimate. That's why we get a lot more nuance in what Jesus said and the exchange. Because John often talking in third person when he's doing his gospel gives us an insight look as to how does Christ's mission on earth point to him being God manifested in flesh. And so when we talk about the Gospels and we talk about Jesus life, when we look at certain books, it's intentional because there's something in the lettering that gives us another picture insight of Christ. And John does that because he does it specifically with a disciple.
Pastor Corey
Thomas,
Pastor Don Dobbins
we know that there's 12 disciples. If you could put that graph up, the other one, the other one we get to there we go there we. So we know there are 12 disciples, right? If you didn't know there were 12 disciples, okay, if you ever own Jeopardy and they ask you how many disciples that Jesus had, screenshot it. So and screenshot this because this gives kind of a picture of who the disciple was, where they were from, and kind of their name, origin, names meant something in that time that Jesus Walked like. They didn't just name their child, just anything haphazardly. Names carried weight. So if you were named this, that name, the meaning of that name followed you. That's why Jesus came to change names. That's why God changed names. Because it was important that whatever you were named followed your assignment. It was important that you just didn't have a name, that your name was indicative of where you were going. And so we see there's Simon Peter, there's John, the son of Zebedee, Matthew, Thaddeus, all of these disciples who had names. You can go to the next one now and then. The focus tonight is about this guy that many of us sometimes call Doubting Thomas. Y' all ever heard that? We have. That's not in the Scripture. The Scripture doesn't call them doubting Thomas. That's something that some good preacher came up with long time ago and it just stuck. But Thomas, just a little bit and we'll dive into him. I just want us to understand the character of who we're talking about tonight. Thomas, also called Didymus, is the apostle called twin. His name, both Thomas and Didymus, both mean twin. So it is an indication that he had a twin. Though the Bible never names who his twin was. Could it be that the Bible is giving us an analogy or a look, that this Thomas, the character of this, has a twin and maybe the twin is you? Maybe this. As we dive deeper into who Thomas was, maybe the twin is unknown because Scripture is intentional. By juxtaposing you and me to Thomas, that we are walking with Jesus, yet we get to a point in our walk with him where we have doubt and we have questions. Could we be the twin of Thomas?
Pastor J
We could be a twin of Thomas, but I don't really think that Thomas had doubt. I believe that Thomas had access to evidence. And because he knew that he had access to evidence, he asked for it. He wasn't just going to go by what was said to him. He said, I want to see, see the evidence of what happened. I need to put my hands on the evidence. He has access to this evidence. He can ask questions because he knows that he has access to the person who can answer them. When Jesus is encountering Thomas, he tells him, then you believe because you saw. But blessed are those who believe and have not seen. Shows us a shift in our faith that is necessary because he knows he's going to ascend. We won't have the same access to evidence that Thomas had. So Thomas has to believe by seeing because he has access to the evidence. But we have to believe what we cannot see because we don't have the nail print in his hand to touch. We don't have the side to put our hands in. And so I don't think that he was doubting. I think that he was showing us his access to evidence.
Pastor Corey
I'm still caught up at 705 and worship in my head evidence. And I really want to get into Thomas, and I am. But Dobbins, you said something in PT's topic stripped down to everything, which means what's blocking your everything? Sometimes we put the world in front of what God has told us. So what God is stripping is the residue of the twin to get us to everything. What is blocking you from everything? So the thing that God is stripping us, the thing that he's doing, and I'm just sitting here thinking like God, I don't want anything to block the everything you put on the inside of me. I don't want nothing. I don't want anything or anyone to block the better version of me that's presenting me or preventing me from becoming what you call me to be. And I think the danger in that is that we become. We make abnormal normal. So now we're walking around blind and God is saying, I'm trying to strip you. So we think stripping is punishment, but him stripping us is really promotion because he's trying to get us to a better version of ourselves because everything is in us. He supplied it. But the problem is we let so much of the world get attached to us. So now the twin, the flesh and the spirit is now pulling away from each other. And God says worship is a pulling of the part so you can see me for who I am. And you said something Dominus made me think. You said Jesus broke in. I don't know if he broke in. I think he entered without force. And I know we're saying break it in, but I think he says, hey, that's what worship is. I want to enter without force. I don't want to force myself on you. I don't care if you locked away. I'm a gentleman. I know you're speculating right now, but you're speculating because you're grieving, because you're traumatic right now. So trauma is causing you to miss the opportunity of believing me even though you haven't seen me yet. The question is, what trauma has affected you to keep you from believing even though you haven't seen it? Thomas, the word alone should have been enough. I saw him that's the word alone. And some of us, we say we believe God when we hear it, but we really don't. We want to see it. And then we'll believe it. Now we'll shout like we believe it. But in our heart, what does it really mean? So now the twin that lives on the inside of us is fighting us because it's easy to fight somebody who I see is my enemy. But what about when you're your own worst enemy? What about you taking so much on you, that flesh? Now God is saying, no, I need to get you to everything. So now there's nothing wrong with Thomas. So I agree with you. I don't think Thomas is a doubter. I think right now he needs evidence from. He's been grieving. Because I've seen this show. I don't believe y'.
Pastor Don Dobbins
All.
Pastor Corey
I have to see it for myself. Me have to see it by ourselves. Really doesn't equate to doubt. No, that doesn't equate to doubt.
Pastor J
God answered him where he was.
Pastor Corey
Answered him.
Pastor J
He didn't rebuke Thomas for his question. He didn't say, thomas, you shouldn't have asked for evidence. He met him where he was and told him, touch, here I am. And it shifted Thomas to the biggest confession. You are my God. You are my Lord. That's all he needed.
Pastor Corey
And then I have to look at the people who told me he saw him.
Pastor J
Exactly.
Pastor Corey
I saw him. But y' all still here hiding, right? You in here hiding, but still you're
Pastor J
not acting like you saw him.
Pastor Corey
You're not out here with me. Oh, but they trying to kill us. If they trying to kill you, why you hiding?
Pastor J
Hello.
Pastor Corey
Why are you gonna tell me he's alive but you in here hiding? How you gonna tell me you're a Christian, but you okay?
Pastor J
Yeah. He couldn't take their word for it.
Pastor Corey
I can take your word for it.
Pastor J
How are you gonna tell me?
Pastor Corey
Jesus say, but you act like you
Pastor Don Dobbins
scurry, but you know, go ahead, go ahead.
Pastor Cora
Well, this is why I think he broke in. He. He doesn't break in spiritually, but he breaks in physically. He picks the lock by going directly through the door. And I think many of us have built up some physical walls around us and God is breaking that. My wife has this saying. She used to always say, we're keep pumping us with the questions online. Any honest, we're going to get to those questions. My wife has this saying. She said, For 25 plus years I've been with it. She said, baby, my Mother used to teach me. She said, less is more. So when you're stripped down to everything, when God takes away the things that you don't really need, then you actually have everything.
Church Member or Participant
It's, it's, it, it flips your mind
Pastor Cora
because we think putting on more fleshly, not spiritually, is actually giving us the security that we need. And God says less is more. That's why it's kind of back to like the garden experience, because this is Genesis in the beginning. In the beginning.
Church Member or Participant
We have a question online that says we have a question in the audience and online. We'll tackle the one online.
Pastor Cora
We'll get one in. In house as well. How do you respond when God gives you a word that keeps ringing in your spirit? Man, I thought she was going to say he or she was going to say ringing in my ear. But when it's ringing your spirit, you really can't get away from it. But your life doesn't match what God is saying. Dr. Williams.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Well, you know, what I love about God is if God waited to give any of us a word, yea, even in the scripture, a word that was on hold until our life was completely lined up, then we would have seen none of what Moses did. We wouldn't see none of what David did. We would see none of what the prophets did. Because God's word is so potent and powerful that his word is. His word is what will transform you and convict you. So, and I want to balance this because I understand this doesn't give a license for our life to be anything but what this says is God is not afraid of where you are. God is not afraid of speaking to you in the middle of where you are. And it's kind of what Pastor Corey alluded to. We'll get to it. But even with Thomas, Thomas at a point was in a place of no belief, where not did he say, unless I see it, it was like, I don't want to believe at all. And God was not afraid to come into where Thomas was to give him the evidence that he needed. So how do you respond when God gives you a word? You respond to it. You respond to the word with a yes. And let that yes be your conviction to pull your life into discipline. Let that yes be your surrender and do a yes with transparency and truth. God, I'm giving you a yes knowing that I don't have it all together. But God, if you can walk with me and take me to where I need to be, I won't turn back. I may stumble, I may mess Up. I may trip up along the way, but my answer is still yes to the word that's in my spirit.
Pastor Corey
That's good. That's really good. I would add an extra layer to what Dr. Williams has actually said. The problem I see with this question is you said it doesn't match, which means you have comparison. What you probably do is take off the whole last clause of that question. In other words, but your life, take all of that off. Because when he tells the disciples, let us go to the other side, that's a word when they get in the storm. It doesn't match what God said. But the problem is I can't get caught up wrestling with a storm. But he told me earlier, we going to the other side. So storms are not vindictive, or storms are not, oh, we're stuck here. The problem is we think we're stuck in a place where God is saying, I need you to move. I'm not looking for something to match what God said when God said it. Nothing matches what God said. What he said is what he said. And it's going to come to pass. The ringing in your spirit is a reminder. It is an echo, echo, echo, echo. That God is saying, what I told you before, it's going to happen. But the enemy is going to throw you distractions. Like, look, it doesn't match what I have nothing to compare it to. My life is bad. It doesn't match because God told me it's good. And even when I'm going through something that's bad, it's still good because God told me it was good. So what he said is going to come to pass in spite of what I may be dealing with. If he spoke it, that's it. God cannot lie. If he said, you are healed, you are healed. I don't care what the doctor report says. If he says, I'm delivered, I am delivered. If he said, I'm debt free, I am debt free. I'm not looking for something to match. I'm looking for the manifestation.
Pastor J
I think another important thing is for you to understand that you can move until it matches.
Pastor Corey
That's good.
Pastor J
You don't have to wait until it matches up. You know, like Noah is like kicking it. You know, he's chilling. And God is like, so rain is coming. He's like, what's rain? That's ridiculous. Well, I need you to build an ark. What's an ark that doesn't match? And so he builds it anyway. The rain hasn't come, the flood hasn't come, the Storm isn't present. Nothing that God told him has come to pass yet, but he moves anyway until it matches. So sometimes the way you respond, because that's what she said, how do I respond? You move until it matches. You know what doesn't match. So to be able to say my life isn't matching suggests that you know what ain't matching. So you probably need to remove the stuff that ain't matching. Move into a way that matches and aligns with God, because you clearly know what ain't matching.
Pastor Corey
Put move in the comment. Put move in the comment.
Pastor J
Move until it matches.
Pastor Corey
Move until it matches.
Pastor Don Dobbins
You know what's interesting? Can you see that? That was a word drop right there? Because a lot of times when we are asking questions and all of us, we know the answer. It is submitting to what we know, surrendering to what we know. Because what you said boils down to a decision, and it's the nuance in what you picked out is that if you know something is not matching, you already know where the error is to try to kick against where the error is. You're trying to find or circumvent around to get another answer. The answer is move that out the way so that you can move into the way.
Pastor Cora
We have a question in house. I'm convicted because I was passing to my colleagues, because I identify with the question. I think God is talking to all of us about things that don't match. One word that I hear, and we'll move on. I hear control. What I hear is I'm struggling with giving God total control over what he already told me to do. How many of us need to surrender total control? My sister.
Sister Janet
I wanted to agree with Pastor Dr. Cora because I felt like Thomas was like, hey, look, I'm gonna need some. Some proof. Because in Matthew, when Jesus was talking about the last days, in Matthew 24. Five, he says, many will come in my name, saying, I am the Christ and will deceive many. And if we hop to 23, it says, and if anyone says to you, look, here's the Christ, therefore do not believe. So I felt Thomas is like, yeah, I'm gonna need to put them hands and that side, and then I'll be good. But my question is, my friend wanted me to ask y' all a question.
Pastor Cora
Y' all gonna tag team this?
Sister Janet
So my friend asked the question and said, when PT spoke about being stripped down, I thought of a fighter's weight in the fire. Weight. Weight. The fighter's weight determines the fight class is the holy stripped down the same. The amount God strips you determines your next level.
Pastor Cora
I love it. I love it. A lot of my friends were boxers growing up. I didn't trust myself to box with them because I'm a real fighter, honestly,
Church Member or Participant
and I didn't tr.
Pastor Cora
You have to have control in the ring.
Pastor Corey
Absolutely.
Pastor Cora
You, You. You can only punch. You can't bite, you can't kick, you can't wrestle. You. I didn't have the discipline.
Pastor Don Dobbins
You can't windmill.
Church Member or Participant
You can't windmill. You know, you can't karate kid.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Straight punches, straight punches.
Pastor Cora
So I think the answer is every boxer has to get down to fighting weight. And the problem is we're fighting with extra weight, tiring ourselves out. It is not the weight that we put on. It is the weight of his glory that allows us to succinctly move in the spirit. You cannot move in the spirit if you're overweight. I don't mean physical weight. Weight it down with things that you don't need to have on you. Give it to God. Give over that complete control and surrender to him. That's what I think I hear in that. Bless you.
Pastor Corey
Can I add another C to that? So I never boxed in the ring, but I trained with boxers. So you don't only need control, you need conditioning. The way you get the weight off is tied to your conditioning. So if you don't exercise properly before you get in the fight, you're going to lose the fight even before you get in. I made the mistake of wanting to fight the guy that was training me because he was 180 pounds.
Pastor Cora
You gonna fight the sparring?
Pastor Corey
And I thought I was gonna beat the bricks off, and there's no way he can beat me. Like, are you crazy? He's 180 pounds. I would knock him out. He said, pastor, I want to tell you something. The problem is you're not conditioned. You control, but you're not conditioned. Round one went. We were great. Right about round two.
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2025 four new lines and unlimited welcome and autopay. See verizon.com for details. I started breathing a little heavier and my hands start falling. The conditioning stopped. He said, no, no, no, put your hands back up. So he was talking to me and hitting me at the same time. He said, put your hands back up. I said, but I. But I thought about what she said, the question and so many times we get in a fight with the demon we're not ready for because we're not conditioned for it. Because we thought we go to the potter's house. We thought because I've been to walk it out with you. You better make sure you're at your fighting weight. Spiritually, you better be at your fighting and weight conditioning is because you can have all the control you want. But if you're not conditioned for it, he gonna tell you put put your hands back up. I'm tired, I'm tired. I got out the ring. I said, now listen now I'm gonna take these gloves off if you hit me again. But he taught me a real spiritual lesson. Don't ever think because you think you're ready for something, you're ready for it.
Pastor Don Dobbins
What this is that we all, you know. Oh, it's the men. The men. We all got our fighting these stories because I actually do take boxing. I do get in the ring, you know. I just want to say that for them I can see what those biases absolutely. That's of course but what scared what this is is the stamina to go all of the rounds and that what I heard when you were talking is that sometimes we lose the fight not because we don't have the strength, we don't have the stamina that your opponent can be weaker than you. But if they can last longer than you, yeah, that's sometimes why they win. But if you can. But if you can build your stamina, and sometimes it's that endurance just to stay in the fight. If you will win, if you faint, not you, you, you'll reap a blessing. Sometimes it's about staying in the fight, not giving up. Picking up your stamina, your conditioning helps that. But you got to stay in the fight to win. Yeah, you got to stay past your opponent. I know we have a question, but I wanted to offer something because Sister Janet's question really prompted a thought. When we're talking about Thomas, there is a scripture. In John, chapter 11, there's a passage that we know. And Jesus is saying to the disciples, so Jesus says, John, chapter 11, verse 14. Jesus says to them plainly, lazarus is dead. And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there. That you may believe. Nevertheless, let us go to him. And then Thomas, who's called the twin, who we're talking about, says to his fellow disciples, let us also go, that we may die with him. Jesus. I wanted to point this out because this gives us a picture of who Thomas was as a disciple. He was someone that was so committed to Christ that he was willing to go into a town.
Pastor Corey
Now, why?
Pastor Don Dobbins
Because where Lazarus was, the disciples had just told him the verse before that, listen, they tried to kill you, Jesus, last time you went there. You sure you want to go back? And Jesus says, yes, because I need to raise Lazarus, all of that. And Thomas is the disciple that's so committed to Christ that he's willing to go into a town and die with him because of how he's following him. So just oppose that to now. This person who Thomas has loved has been crucified, died and left him. So Thomas heart, when the disciples are telling him, hey, we saw him, Thomas says, no, I'm not going to believe it, because I can't believe he left me the first time. And so Thomas pictured Thomas, our twin, looks like us. When God lets us down in a way that crushes our spirit, if we're honest, we have lost our faith. We have come. And though we are sitting in the pews, we say, I'm not going to believe that he's going to heal because he took Mama. And when I prayed for him to keep Mama, he took Mama, so why would he heal me? And I'm going through the Same thing. We have lost faith. And though we show up because Thomas showed up where they were, Thomas showed up saying, I'm here, but I'm not going to believe
Pastor Cora
it.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Is that Thomas. That Jesus comes to it. Is that Thomas in the middle of his unbelief. In the middle of him. And when I was researching this, it was so emphatic. It wasn't just, I won't believe unless I see. It was almost like saying, there is nothing that could make me believe unless he shows up. And some of us come to church and saying, there's nothing that will make me believe again unless he shows up. Unless he comes to me.
Pastor Cora
This is. Oh, you, You. You just. You just threw that in there.
Pastor Corey
Yeah.
Pastor Cora
First off, here is the text, y'.
Pastor Don Dobbins
All.
Pastor Cora
This is how my mind works. Okay.
Church Member or Participant
This. See, we.
Pastor Cora
We're talking about Thomas as opposed to John.
Church Member or Participant
You mentioned John.
Pastor Cora
John writes that he's the disciple that Jesus love because John is actually the author of the book. But I believe that Thomas was the disciple that Jesus loved as well.
Church Member or Participant
So broken down in these 19,099 words
Pastor Cora
in John and then filleted over 874
Church Member or Participant
verses is one specific thing that is really leaping out.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Are you chat GPT for real?
Pastor Cora
No, it's.
Pastor J
No, no. This was him before.
Pastor Don Dobbins
No, no.
Pastor J
GPT. No, for real.
Pastor Don Dobbins
So you started chat GPT.
Pastor J
Some teacher doing this.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Gee, you are, AI. You're not even real. You're not even real right now.
Pastor J
1300 words and it's 5000 words. And it's 6000 words.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Go ahead.
Pastor J
He was doing this before.
Pastor Don Dobbins
AI, we interrupted your thought. We are sorry.
Church Member or Participant
No, she knows, because before there's an AI, after there's a Thomas, there's a Vin Shard. That's why. Thank you for justifying me.
Pastor Corey
Let's go.
Church Member or Participant
I'm telling you because I'm the nerdy kid who would just basically have 66 books in the Bible. I memorized the numbers, then the letters, then the chapters. This is before I was ever even teaching. This was my play world because I
Pastor Cora
wanted to be so intimate with God. If you said, holla, I'm gonna say, lou, you.
Church Member or Participant
If you said thank, I'm gonna say you, Jesus. If you said glory, I'm gonna say to God because I want to know him. I think Thomas gets typecast for not. For. For really not being average. He wants a deeper relationship with God. It is there in John, chapter number 11, verses 15 and 16. Thomas says, let's go die with him. Thomas had the type of courage and the boldness to say, let's go die with Jesus. I think this is what the Holy Ghost has been talking to me about, that Thomas did not respect the other disciples because they were locked behind closed door for fear of Jewish leaders. He said, I'm not going to be locked behind a closed door. I'm going to be out here in the neighborhood because I am not afraid. So it is not that people don't always accept or believe God. Unfortunately, they sometimes don't believe the God in you because of the life that you've lived.
Pastor Corey
Say that.
Pastor Don Dobbins
So you saying that Thomas didn't believe the disciples because he couldn't trust them?
Church Member or Participant
Perhaps there is a possibility that Thomas did not trust the disciples because they were the ones who were whimpering around in fear of locked behind closed doors. And in Thomas's perspective, Jesus had to break in and levitate and go through the doors and show you all his nail prints and the piercing in his side. I won't believe you until I meet him myself.
Pastor Corey
Hold on, Dobbins, wait a minute. So what you're saying is Thomas gets a message from them, but he says, how can you say you saw Jesus but you in the same place?
Pastor Cora
There it is.
Pastor Corey
You in the same place I left you eight days ago. But you're telling me you see Jesus but you in the same place. We're in the same predicament. But you tell me you know Jesus,
Church Member or Participant
you wouldn't go die with him. Like I confess when I said, let's go die with him. The text shows that they never responded, saying, thomas, we're with you. And so you want me to be with you, but you were never with me. Some of the people who don't respect.
Pastor Corey
Wait a minute.
Pastor J
Wait a minute.
Church Member or Participant
What? You must. I'm the one who stood up. I said Jesus when he was alive. Now you're going to stand up when he's dead.
Pastor Don Dobbins
See, this is what happens when he runs. See, when he runs, he gets this type of revelation. See, you need to run more often.
Church Member or Participant
I'm just saying, because all of us have this Didymus. The text is saying Didymus. He was known as Didymus Tom, which there's an indication historically that either he had a twin, but whether it was a brother or a sister. But this is a revelation that many of us have a twin. There's a spirit twin, there's a flesh twin. These are just my verbiages. Don't take it for text. In other words, there's a. This. It's like the angel on one Side, the devil on the other. One moment. Let's go die with it. One moment. Nah, I'm not sure. One moment. I'm coming to church. One moment. I don't feel like going to church. Which you will we get today. But you want me to give my life to him. You want me to serve God. You want me to surrender. You want me to praise and worship. But when I saw you cussing, when I. When I saw you. When. When I saw you googling porn. See? No, no, no. Let's get down to the real nuts and crux of the text. We need to get down to lifestyle.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Yeah.
Church Member or Participant
There was a question. I'm gonna tie it and I'm gonna drop it. There was a question in saying, what do I do? How do I keep pressing? Because the path is still not opening up. Sometimes it's not for the path to open up because you're not ready for it. Sometimes. And then sometimes the path has stamina and conditioning that we have not prepared ourselves for. I see many preachers, I see many events. I see many prophets. They want to preach. They want to prophesy. Let's go run a revival. I don't even see you do a daily devotion. I'm not seeing you even pray every morning when the Holy Ghost is wake you up at 4:30 and 5, there it is. You're ignoring the Holy Ghost in private, but what you want to preach in public. The devil is a lie. When is the real you gonna show up? Or do I get your twin?
Pastor Corey
Now? Wait a minute.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Wait.
Pastor Corey
Do I get your twin? Because the text does say what I wish to do.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Do good.
Pastor Corey
Evil is always present. Wait a minute. The devil isn't omnipresent, so he can't be ever. So what is the evil he's talking about?
Pastor Don Dobbins
It's the other evil side of me. The enemy.
Pastor Corey
The enemy is the enemy.
Pastor Don Dobbins
And.
Church Member or Participant
And you know, I got to throw this in because we were talking about boxing. She brought it up, and you guys were tag teaming on boxing and Pastor Cord, please jump in this. I think it's Daniel 7 and 25. The text says that the devil, the enemy, has come to wear out the saints. And you are not conditioned because the devil has worn you out playing games and tricks in your flesh with other people outside of your call. And then now, when it's time for you to run in your destiny, you have no strength to reap. You don't. It takes strength to reap. It takes stamina to walk into the blessing. You want money. You want prosperity. You want Influence. You want wealth? It's going to take discipline.
Pastor Don Dobbins
You can't faint. Go ahead.
Pastor J
Well, I was going to say sometimes the path is not opening because you own the wrong one. You ain't even supposed to be on that path.
Church Member or Participant
Excuse me, I'm going to the right path.
Pastor J
You wasn't even supposed to be on that path.
Sister Janet
You.
Pastor J
You need to move away from that path altogether and you fighting against it. Like you said, you're wrestling against the wrong path and you're trying to beg for it to open. And that's not the door that, that God wants you in front of. And it's important for you to be prepared for what you're praying for. If you're going to pray but not prepare, then what does that show about you? Like, spiritually? To pray for God to do something big but not pray for the stewardship of how to sustain it is not wise. It's just not.
Pastor Corey
It's really disrespectful.
Pastor Don Dobbins
It's disrespectful.
Pastor Corey
It's disrespectful because what happens is when opportunity shows up, it's too late to prepare for it.
Pastor J
Even God said, prepare the body, prepare it.
Pastor Corey
We don't want to be prepared. It's funny you say that. You're talking about condition and I won't use my brother Dobbins and how many numbers actually is in 1999.
Church Member or Participant
But no, Chat GPT actually disagrees with me.
Pastor Cora
They think it's 19,094 words, but they don't know that I've actually, actually count.
Church Member or Participant
I trust my younger years and actually
Pastor Cora
wrote it on the chart. So they're actually five words off.
Church Member or Participant
But go ahead.
Pastor Corey
I trust you. I don't trust Chat cbt. I trust you. No, but the one thing about being conditioned and Oscar, you probably can jump in and say the same thing. It is important that your body, that your muscle gets oxygen. So it's not just the fact that you want to be. I gotta know. Your muscle needs the oxygen. Well, the only way that oxygen flows, it goes through your hearts and through the vessels.
Church Member or Participant
Preach, man.
Pastor Corey
So that means now you got to have a good heart so the oxygen can flow to the muscles so they can contract and operate properly. So if your heart ain't right, stop asking your muscles to be right. So now you're wondering why you can't win against the enemy. It's not a muscle problem, it's a heart problem. So now you got to make sure it matches up. So how am I consistent? Check your heart. Maybe it's not that it's not the path. Maybe the fact is not the time.
Pastor J
And then also sometimes you are using efforts you're familiar with, but not the effort needed for that particular thing.
Pastor Corey
Yeah, that's right.
Pastor J
So you'll be battling and you're wrestling with a familiar weapon, but it's not the weapon for this fight. And so it's important for you to be able to have such a prayer life that you can say, God, show me what weapon to use to to open this path if it's the path that you desire me to be on.
Church Member or Participant
This speaks of comfort zone. And we're right in the text. If you just jumped in online, because in John Chapter number 20, look at verses 22. Look at verse 23. Look at when Jesus steps in, the first thing he does is breathe on the disciples. He says, receive ye the Holy Ghost. First of all to me, if they would have received the Holy Ghost, he wouldn't even had to show them the nail prints in his hands and in his sides. But he's saying, receive. This is interesting to me. He says, receive ye the Holy Ghost. But the day of Pentecost does not happen until later. Could it be possible that timing is the reason that the path is not opening up? Could it be possible that timing is everything in this text? He's trying to push them beyond their confidence. He says, receive ye the Holy Ghost, and it takes you a while before you catch it. Jesus was trying to get them filled with the Holy Ghost in John chapter number 20. They don't receive it until at least 10 plus more days in the upper room. The reason why it's taken us a long time to receive the blessing and to walk into the full power of God is because we have not been filled, because our lifestyle has not lined up. We do not have a lifestyle of prayer. The national day of prayer, it's going to happen tomorrow. It'll be a blessing. But how many times are we praying outside of that? Or do you just pray when you come in church? Do you just pray when there are people around? Do you just pray when you have a prayer partner that calls you? This thing is not hit as easily as you think it is. There's going to be an avalanche of what you do in prison. Private.
Pastor Corey
Listen, there is one particular thing that I want to bring out because I don't want people to kind of skate past us talking about Thomas. I believe there's also a possibility of mental fatigue because some of us have gotten tired before because he gets the message. And then Jesus doesn't show up to eight days later. So he gets the message one day, he doesn't show up that day, he doesn't show up the next day. And sometimes delayed revelation feels like rejection. He hadn't shown himself. It seems like eight days of silence. He not answering me, why? I got a word that he's still alive. Why haven't I seen him yet? What am I waiting on? Maybe he says, I'm waiting on the timing. I'm waiting for you to get prepared enough so I can reveal myself to you. And then he says, watch this. He goes back into a locked room. I believe this. I personally believe God doesn't even know what a door is. I believe doors are created for us, for access, for us in it. So we have to draw this illustration of him coming in a locked room. He says, I don't even know what a locked room is. How can a God who is everywhere all the time understand something is locked? Nothing can be locked to an open God.
Pastor J
Come on here.
Pastor Corey
And I think once we get the understanding of God cannot and will not block me from the blessing that he has for me. Mental fatigue can come down and say, you know what? It hadn't come on one day, but it'll come the next day. It hadn't come that day, but it'll come the next day. God. God's not trying to block anything from you. He's waiting on you to get prepared so you can have the promises that he said. So just like he said, I'm not going to give you anything premature that's going to kill you. Get prepared for it.
Pastor J
And you have to see if your faith can survive silence, if it can survive disappointment, if it can survive the absence of clarity. Can your faith survive it? Because the real fire of God doesn't fall after all of this happens until they decide our faith will survive the silence. He went eight days. He didn't answer them. His faith had to survive silence. And sometimes I think that we struggle in the silence when our faith needs to be able to survive the silence. They were so dependent on a present God, he was trying to prepare their faith for his absence. We have authority and power to and the presence of his glory. But we won't allow our faith to survive the silent moments. We won't allow our faith to survive disappointment. We won't allow our faith to survive God's no. And when God says no, we blame him and we walk away from him. And we go onto another path and try to force it open, because it's not the path that he wanted us on. It's the path we made for ourselves, the comfortable path that we made for ourselves. But I think it's very important in order to get to Pentecost. What will your faith willingly survive if
Church Member or Participant
Lord, can you mention the eight days in your response? Because I don't know if you caught that. The text says eight days later. She tapped it in.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Well, well, if we could, if you could. If we can read that passage. Because I want us to know where that passage is. If you could put that John 20. Yeah. And before we read it, I wanted to even. I know we are over time, but the two things that. That just leaped in my spirit, that a lot of times we don't talk about disappointment. And I feel like we have done a disservice to the body because we have not adequately informed people how to deal with when God disappoints you. Because the other side of what I see with Thomas is Thomas was disappointed. We've talked about his connection to Jesus, we've talked about his allegiance to Jesus. We've talked about. And we all can put ourselves in a position, position where there's somebody that we're closely connected to that when they do something that disappoints us, it does something to our heart, the muscle of the heart, where. When the heart gets bruised, when the heart gets injured, it is difficult to believe and have that same level of faith. And I feel like many of us, a lot of times practically we show up with a bruised heart. We show up in the trauma of disappointment. Coming to church but not really believing. Coming to church but not really worshiping. Showing up because everybody else is here, but really and truly in our heart we're saying, God, you let me down and I don't know how to deal with that. You left me when I thought you were always going to be here. Because remember, the disciples were not thinking that Jesus was going to die and leave. They were wanting him to establish kingdom and take over and put authority back in their hands. That's why they were following him. That's why they could not believe that he had died. That's why they were in disbelief when they went to the tomb. That's why the first thing they thought is they stole the body and took it. They didn't think, oh, he rose, he did what he said he did. They were in disbelief. And Thomas, because he was, he wasn't there when Jesus came, is saying, I've been, I've been down this road again. I've heard this story. I followed Him I don't have the strength to believe like that again because I'm disappointed.
Pastor Corey
So that's Good.
Pastor Don Dobbins
So John 20, is this what we. 26.
Pastor Corey
It's 26, yes.
Pastor Cora
This is the eight day portion.
Pastor Don Dobbins
And after eight days I wish we could go back because just for the. Yeah, just, just.
Pastor Cora
We can go to verse 24.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Okay. Now, Thomas called the twin, one of the 12 was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, we have seen the Lord. So he said to them, unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and put my finger in the print of the nails and put my hand into his side. Now notice that he didn't, he didn't just say the, the fingers and the feet, I need to put my hand in his side. Side note, why? Because crucifixion was common in that day. The only thing that set Jesus crucifixion apart is that he got pierced in the side. That didn't happen. So Thomas is saying, I don't want to just see somebody who got crucified. I want to see somebody who got crucified the same way Christ did. I need to put my hand in his side. I will not believe. 26 says. And after eight days, his disciples were again, again inside. And Thomas was with them, still stuck. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst and said, peace to you. So the first thing Jesus does is he calms everything just like he did on the storm. Peace be still. He walks into chaos because the storm was internal. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, on.
Pastor J
He didn't say peace be still first. He rebuked their faith first. He did. When, when they called for him, he came up and he said, oh, ye of little faith, come on.
Church Member or Participant
Here in the storm, if you had
Pastor J
faith, you would have been able to speak to this storm and it be moved. And so his faith, then he spoke to the storm.
Pastor Don Dobbins
And it's the same formula here. When he comes in to wear what was closed, it is his faith. It's, it's their faith that reached out and pulled him in. That's why he didn't need a door. And so when he gets in, he says, now, peace, not be still, but peace to you. Yes, meaning I'm not saying peace, just settle somewhere. I'm pulling peace right to you. Calmness to you, wholeness to you. And so he reached it. Now he says to Thomas, reach your finger here and look at my hands and reach your hand here and put in my side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing. I. I want to say this because I know we got to go. I feel like. Did my. Did my seat shrink? You're good.
Church Member or Participant
I think the Holy Spirit.
Pastor Don Dobbins
That's the weight. That's the weight of the glory. The weight of the glory that brought me down.
Pastor Corey
He's bringing you down.
Church Member or Participant
You got a servant. Even when you're Lord, you got.
Pastor Don Dobbins
I said, lord, what happened? And it got taller.
Podcast Guest or Host
We need to get out of here.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Okay, but.
Pastor Corey
But.
Pastor Don Dobbins
But we have to say this. Did you notice that the resurrected Jesus still had wounds?
Church Member or Participant
Whoa, whoa. That.
Pastor Don Dobbins
That. When he meets Mary. Hold on. When he meets. Now, remember, we talked about this the first week when he met Mary in the garden. He said, don't cling to me, because I have not yet. So he wouldn't let Mary touch him. He said, I have not ascended to my father. He comes and sees Thomas and says, put your hand here. Now he's resurrected. He's transformed, but he still kept his wounds. Which lets us know that just because God resurrects you sometimes, he's gonna leave your wounds because he's gonna send you back and say, hey, you didn't believe.
Pastor Corey
But look.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Look at these scars. That's why this scar is still here. Because I need for you to believe. You needed evidence. He left me with evidence so that you would believe.
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Pastor Don Dobbins
That you cannot be afraid of your wounds Some Some of us are trying to hide our wounds God, why won't you take this away? What God wants you. And God is saying, I left the womb, though I resurrected you. Because just like Jesus, I'm sending you into a place where people need evidence that the only reason that they haven't believed yet is because you haven't showed up. But when you show up with your evidence unafraid and unashamed, that's going to cause them to believe. Because he says in another verse, greater words will you do. We are walking epistles. So what does that mean? We are the evidence of Christ in the earth. So your wounds have a purpose. Your pain has a purpose. Your trauma has a purpose. Your pain, it has a purpose. Don't be afraid of it. Don't hide. Your testimony has a purpose. How will they overcome unless you open up your mouth and testify? I don't care that they said I heard that story over and over again and you're gonna keep hearing it because my testimony is what gives me the power to overcome. My testimony shows my wounds, and somebody may need to hear that in order to believe. We're getting ready to close, but I feel like there are some people who've been resurrected with wounds. If that's you, why don't you stand to your feet? And you didn't know what to do with that wound. You didn't know. You didn't know that God was going to use that wound to help give somebody evidence of what he can do. That scar, that thing that looks ugly, that thing that scares you, the thing that you've been trying to hide, the thing that you've been trying to get away from, the thing that you didn't want nobody to know. God said, I'm going to use just that. I'm going to use that. Jesus being resurrected still left his wounds. I was driving and that came to my heart. And it came to my mind that a resurrected Jesus thought it was enough to still have wounds so that when he Came to Thomas. He came. We were talking about this on our call that he had already showed himself to the disciples. But Thomas mission in life was so important that he came back to show himself to Thomas to say, I know you need evidence to believe. So here it is. I believe God has come into this place for somebody who said, God, I want to believe again. I want to receive again, I want to trust again, I want to love again, I want to hope again. I want to have that same fervor like I used to have. I want to have that same fire like I used to have. He said, I'm here in the room for you. And maybe you are the person with the wound that God wants to send to a place that may feel closed off, a people that may feel closed off. They don't want to hear your testimony. And God is sending you back into a room that almost has shut you out because you have the evidence that they need. We have worshiped, we have praised, we have done all of that. And now the only thing left to do is just to surrender ourselves to God once again. Would you stand all over the building, Everybody standing? Everybody's standing, Everybody. We typically call an altar call and we will. And the altar is always open. But I want to make a special appeal. Always not take for granted that there may be somebody in here who really does not know Jesus, who said, I just don't have enough evidence to believe. But tonight something got into your heart, something slipped into your spirit. The glory broke into the crevices of your soul. And you are here and you want to accept Jesus. If that's you, we just want to give you an opportunity. If that's you, I want you to rush to this altar. If you say, I want to know who Jesus is, I've been following this road. I don't want to be like somebody that's coming and having no relationship. I want to come into relationship. I just want to take 30 seconds and invite you to this place called salvation. Invite you into this place to know him. If that's you, we got ministers, we got elders, we got pastors, we got preachers. We will pray you. But I want to give a moment just to invite you. I know sometimes we give the call out and you can stay in your seat, but I want you to make a decision. If that's you, I want you to make a conscious decision that I want to come into relationship with Jesus Christ. Christ, come on, church, let's celebrate. Not spectate. Let's celebrate. Let's celebrate. Come on, let's Get a minister. Rush, rush, rush to him. Rush to him. Don't make him wait. Don't make them wait. Rush to him. Rush to him. Yeah. Is there anybody else? If for everything we did, it was for this one soul, it was worth it. Come on. Can we celebrate a little more? Yeah. Somebody making a conscious decision decision that I don't want to be outside of the door. I want to come into the room where belief is. I want to make a second appeal that maybe as. As the person who put that question up, maybe, you know, there's something in your life that doesn't match up to where God wants you to be. And you're saying, I don't want to continue on in A, disobedience, B, lack of discipline, or I don't want to be standing outside the door while Jesus is moving. If that's you, I just want to invite you. I want to invite you to the altar. We want to pray with you. We want to make sure you're covered. We want to make. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to celebrate. Yeah, yeah, I know. And it doesn't mean I'm doing something bad or something wrong, all that. I just know I'm not really where I'm supposed to be. Like Pastor Don said, my heart. My heart needs to a little mending. My heart needs a little fixing. My muscle needs a little work. I need more stamina for this fight. I'm getting a little weak along the way, and I need some stamina. I need to be conditioned. If that's you, I just want you to come to the altar. I know that I'm in a fight, and I feel like I'm losing, and I just need somebody to touch and agree with me that God give me the stamina not to quit, not to give up, not to give in. I want to invite you to this session, sacred place for us to pray with you. This sacred place. Just. Just music is good. Just music is good. Yeah. If that's you, I'm. 30 more seconds. I just need somebody to touch and agree with me that God give me the strength I need for this fight. I'm in a fight. I'm in a battle, and I don't want to give up. I don't want to lose heart. We want to touch and agree with you. Yes, we gonna touch and agree with you. While they praying here, let's pray together. Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you for our brothers and our sisters who are in this place. I thank you for the Thomases who are dedicated to you. But maybe somewhere along the journey our faith was damaged, our hope was damaged, our belief was damaged. God, I thank you that you will come through a locked door for us. You will come to any place, Father, because you care that much for us. That you will come and give us the evidence that we need. God, I thank you for showing your presence in this house. I thank you for the glory that descended in this place. I thank you for the weightiness of your presence. I thank you that you just didn't come empty handed, Father. But everything we needed, Father, we received. When your presence, God came into this place, God, we walked into your presence. You didn't just come in, Father, we met you here. God and I thank you. I thank you that our hearts were made better now. Father, for the souls at the altar, for the ones that came to know you, for the ones that came for refilling, for the ones that came because they needed God a touch, I thank you. I thank you for meeting them where they are and doing what only you can do. And that is be God in their life. Now, we honor you and we praise you and we love you because we receive the miracle. Miracle of the evidence. Thank you for the wounds. Because the wounds will be our evidence to a dying world that Jesus lives in. Jesus. Name somebody praise him right there. Praise him. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. If you got, pray. We want to make sure we get information, make sure we connect. Don't leave them out there. Listen, we're getting ready to give and go. It is offering time. It's seed time and harvest. Let's get excited for seed, time and harvest. Seed, time and harvest. Come on. Can we praise God for seed, time and harvest? It is our custom and our tradition that we don't give out of obligation. We give out of discipline and we give out of love. And we give out of devotion. For some of us, we're paying our tithes tonight. For some of us, we're paying, offering as a response to the Word. For some of us, we are sowing a seed because we are believing God to do something miraculous in our life. And some of us believe that when we sow seeds, they come back to us. I'm a witness. I'm a witness that I am believing God to do something and my belief starts at my seed. If that is you, we have our PMTs in the aisle. If you need an envelope, just wave your hand, they'll give you one. We got people that need. If you want to give on your phone, there are giving instructions right there on the screen. In a moment, we're going to stand and hundreds of believers are going to stand because we believe that God sees the sacrifice of our seed. And what the old saints used to say, you can never beat God's giving no matter how hard somebody know about it. No matter how hard hard you try. Some of y' all don't try that hard, but that's okay. You can't beat it. The way God gives back to us, the way God does. Who wouldn't serve a God like this? Pastor Don who wouldn't serve a God like this if you got your seat in your hand. Stand to your feet, everybody standing. And I say this all the time. Sometimes in some giving moments, you are the seed. You're standing because you're saying, God, I'm giving myself back to you again. I don't have it tangibly right now, but what I do have is my. Yes, what I do have is my praise. What I do have is my offering of my life. And I'm standing because I'm the seed that I'm planting in the ground that God, I believe you will develop me, God, and you will grow me and you will use me and you will will break me and you'll give me so that your people will be blessed. I am the seed. Come on, wave it in the air. Wave it, wave it, wave it. Father, I thank you because we're giving into good ground. We're giving God out of obedience because we believe the word that you said. What we sow shall be gone, given back to us. That you give seed to the sower, Father, God, that. That what you have to do for us, God, you will open the windows of heaven and pour out a blessing that we don't even have room enough to receive. And so we give in faith, not trusting the economy, not trusting our bank accounts, not trusting culture, but trusting you. And so we sow God in belief, knowing that you are a God of your word. In Jesus name, Amen. Amen. Pass your seat all the way to the left. Pass it all the way to the left.
Pastor Corey
There go.
Pastor Don Dobbins
We was some announcements I need to make real fast. All the way to the left. PMTs once you can serve the people. Really quick. Hey you. Is this Friday, y'? All. May 8th. Ladies, give it up for hey you. The War Bob and hey you. Teams are bringing you hey you. Live to the house. Doors open at 6pm and programming starts at at 6:30. Now listen, this is formal wear, okay? They want y' all to dress up, put your Sunday best on this is formal wear and it's free because this is Mother's Day weekend. Let's celebrate all the mothers. Can we celebrate the mothers? So every mom, every sister, every aunt, every daughter, first lady, our pastor Sarah, they want to see you at Heyu. Pastor Cora, everybody, they want to to see you at heyu. Doors open at 6pm and programming starts at 6:30. And this announcement is really special. You've heard the the formal announcement. I want to just underscore Good Neighbor Day. Good Neighbor day is Saturday, May 16th. This is where we have an opportunity to serve the city, providing food, essentials, resources and comfort. There's no experience necessary. You don't have to the train. All you have to do is have a willing heart and some available time on the 16th to offer help to those who need it. Now that's something we all can participate in. Register today to volunteer@tphd.org goodneighbors or you can scan the QR code. Let's get ready to go. Grab your neighbor's hand. We getting ready to leave. I know you don't want to, but you gotta go. I know you want to stay in this place. Presence, I want to stay here too, but we got to go. But aren't we glad Sunday's coming?
Sister Janet
Woo.
Pastor Don Dobbins
Are we glad Sunday's coming? Were you blessed tonight? Did you receive something tonight? Father, I thank you because your presence is here and has been here. Now as we leave this place, Father, I send us out, God, into a world that needs to see ourselves scars. Because this world needs to believe. Give us holy boldness. Anoint us. Give us your glory, Father. And we rebuke every devil that tries to show his face. We don't got time for him. We don't got time for that. We got work to do. So give us power to do the work. In Jesus name, amen and amen. We'll see you all Sunday, ladies. We'll see y' all Friday. Everybody else, we'll see you Sunday. And if not Sunday, we will see you when Wednesday at another Walk it out. Bless you.
Pastor Corey
You've been listening to the Potter's House podcast. If this episode encouraged your faith, walk
Pastor Don Dobbins
it out with authority.
Pastor Corey
Until next time. Be blessed.
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This dynamic, interactive episode features the pastoral panel from The Potter’s House of Dallas, focusing on the journey “Stripped Down to Everything.” The pastors explore what it means to be spiritually stripped—not to nothing, but to the fullness God has placed within each believer. Through candid dialogue, biblical teaching, and open questions from both the audience and online viewers, the panel unpacks lessons from Thomas ("the twin" or "Didymus"), wrestling with belief, doubt, and the path to Pentecost. The central theme is moving from superficial church routines to a deep, anchored understanding of faith, evidence, and the journey of being prepared for God’s promised “everything.”
“We want to take a journey so that we understand why we celebrate Pentecost.”
— Pastor Don Dobbins (03:41)
“Stripped down to everything…reminds me of Adam and Eve. They did not need outer accoutrements.”
— Pastor Cora (06:01)
“Thomas, also called Didymus…maybe the twin is unknown because Scripture is intentional, juxtaposing you and me to Thomas.”
— Pastor Don Dobbins (12:25)
“Thomas had access to evidence, he asked for it…we have to believe what we cannot see.”
— Pastor J (13:18)
“I don’t want anything or anyone to block the better version of me that’s presenting me or preventing me from becoming what you call me to be.”
— Pastor Corey (15:49)
“You don’t have to wait until it matches up…sometimes the way you respond is, you move until it matches.”
— Pastor J (23:58)
“Being stripped down is not punishment, it’s really promotion…because everything is in us.”
— Pastor Corey (14:44)
“You want me to give my life to him… when I saw you googling porn…When is the real you going to show up, or do I get your twin?”
— Church Member (40:09)
“If your heart ain’t right, stop asking your muscles to be right.”
— Pastor Corey (43:41)
“Can your faith survive the silence? Survive disappointment? Survive God’s no?…”
— Pastor J (48:09)
“He still kept his wounds…just because God resurrects you, sometimes He’s going to leave your wounds because He’s going to send you back and say, ‘Hey, you needed evidence.’”
— Pastor Don Dobbins (55:20)
The episode culminates in a powerful altar call, connecting the teaching with real-life application—inviting those with “wounds,” bruised faith, or a sense of incompleteness to find healing and belonging in Christ. The panel reinforces that wounds carry a purpose and should not be hidden: “Our wounds are our evidence to a dying world.” Worship, surrender, and transparency before God are championed as the pathway to experiencing the fullness of “everything” God has for His people.
This summary captures the tone, candor, and depth of the panel’s conversation—an honest, Spirit-led exploration of the path from spiritual stripping to fullness in Christ, grounded in scripture and real-life application.