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David McKnight addresses a myth floating around the financial world: "For a Roth conversion to make sense, you need many years for the Roth to grow so you can recoup the taxes you paid to the conversion." David stresses why this way of thinking is fundamentally wrong – it's built on the wrong assumption that all the money in your IRA belongs to you… when it actually doesn't. Remember: your IRA isn't one pile of money but two piles sitting in the same account. One pile belongs to you, while the other to the IRS. What's unknown is how big the IRS' pile is going to be when you eventually take the money out of the account. David goes on to explain what happens as both piles grow and required minimum distributions kick in. You may end up with the IRS' pile being not just larger but taxed at a much higher rate too. With a Roth conversion, on the other hand, your conversion translates into you carving out the IRS' portion and handing it to them today – settling the bill while the balance is smaller and the rate may be lower. There's a key question David invites you to keep in mind when it comes to Roth conversions: "Is your tax rate lower today than it will be when you take the money out?" The exploding national debt of over $200 trillion dollars in unfunded obligations for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are going to require spending cuts, higher taxes, or some combination of the two. Beware: the problem with most retirement plans is that they assume that tax rates will stay low forever! David points out that Roth conversions aren't about timing the market but about timing the tax code. In other words, they're about timing the advantage of known measurable tax rates today instead of gambling on unknown ones tomorrow. Mentioned in this episode: David's new book, available now for pre-order: The Secret Order of Millionaires David's national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America's Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track Tax-Free Income for Life: A Step-by-Step Plan for a Secure Retirement by David McKnight DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com

This episode revolves around President Donald Trump's claim that, due to the massive tsunami of tariff revenue that's flowing into the U.S. coffers, Americans won't have to pay income tax in 2026. David McKnight looks at the 2025 fiscal year: the Federal Government spent about $7 trillion and brought in about $5 and a quarter trillion in revenue. While breaking down the math related to the 2025 fiscal year, David points out that "Revenue from income taxes is the single largest source of Federal revenue", while "Tariffs, by contrast, are one of the smallest." Even Trump's own economic team, including Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, has said that in an extremely optimistic scenario, tariff revenue might someday reach $500 billion a year – which is only about ⅕ of what gets collected in income taxes. By looking at the numbers, it's clear that the proposed tariff-funded $2,000 check for each of the 340 million Americans wouldn't work: it would cost roughly $680 billion against a tariff revenue that only amounts to $195 billion… David clarifies a key point about tariffs. They're not paid by foreign governments, they're paid by U.S. importers. In other words, tariffs are simply a tax on consumers. There's an additional problem that shouldn't be overlooked. Not only do tariffs not generate enough revenue, but they can also lead to retaliation by other countries imposing their own tariffs on American exports. This means that an American effort to try to raise trillions of dollars through tariffs could end up costing heavily on its own people. David is crystal clear: While these types of claims make for great sound bites, the federal budget still has to obey the mathematical laws of the universe, and the math makes it clear: There's no world in which tariffs could ever eliminate the need for an income tax. By the look of things, the U.S. is marching into a future where the federal government will soon need huge infusions of cash just to pay the interest on its exploding national debt. To forestall this, the U.S. government will have to double federal income taxes in or around 2035. That's why, David says, having a dialed-in strategy to get your retirement savings shifted from 401(k)s and IRAs to Roths is more important than ever. Mentioned in this episode: David's new book, available now for pre-order: The Secret Order of Millionaires David's national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America's Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track Tax-Free Income for Life: A Step-by-Step Plan for a Secure Retirement by David McKnight DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com President Donald Trump Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania

David McKnight addresses a brand new proposal that could transform the way Americans use Roth IRAs and Roth 401(k) – and that could have serious implications for your retirement flexibility, liquidity, and long-term tax strategy. With the current status quo, if a person has money in a 401(k) or even a Roth 401(k), they can usually roll it out into an IRA when they retire or leave their job. However, money can't roll the other direction: you can't take a Roth IRA and move it into a Roth 401(k)... A new bipartisan bill introduced by Republican Representative Darin LaHood and Democrat Representative Linda Sánchez aims to change that. Under this proposal, you could roll your Roth IRA into an employer-sponsored Roth account like a Roth 401(k), a Roth 403(b) or even a Roth 457 plan. This change could mean less paperwork, potentially lower fees, and a simpler investment picture. David cites simplicity, cost and protection as a few of the reasons why lawmakers may want this bill to pass. One of the incentives for Washington may have to do with the fact that encouraging people to use Roth accounts – which are taxed up front – can generate more short-term tax revenue for the government. Everything isn't as good as it seems, though. David lists a few of the trade-offs involved with this potential change. Firstly, loss of control. When your money is in a Roth IRA, you can invest it wherever you want: Index funds, EFTs, individual stocks, and more. With an employer plan, your investment menu would be limited by the options the plan administrator offers. The so-called Five-Year Rule is another aspect worth considering. Typically, every Roth account has to be open for at least five years or until 59 ½, whichever is later, before earnings can be withdrawn tax-free. Here's the tricky part: Each different kind of Roth account has its own five-year clock. This could turn into a logistical nightmare for plan administrators. David shares some final considerations regarding who would benefit and who may get negatively affected by the proposed bill and points out that "Not all Roths are created equal." Mentioned in this episode: David's new book, available now for pre-order: The Secret Order of Millionaires David's national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America's Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track Tax-Free Income for Life: A Step-by-Step Plan for a Secure Retirement by David McKnight DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Darin LaHood Linda Sánchez Employment Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA)

Today’s episode addresses five reasons why a Roth IRA is one of David KcKnight’s favorite tax-free investments. Unlike other retirement accounts, Roth IRAs give you 100% liquidity on all contributions. While David isn’t necessarily suggesting that you use your Roth IRA as an emergency fund, it’s nice to know that you won’t have to wait until age 59 ½ to be able to access those funds. If you happen to take out your Roth IRA contributions, you can put that money back within 60 days as long as your Roth IRA was not involved in a rollover during the 12 months preceding the date of distribution. Tax regrowth is a second reason why David is an advocate for Roth IRAs. For David, going for a Roth IRA could be the right move if you believe that your tax bracket in retirement is likely to be higher than it is today. The Penn Wharton School of Business recently said that if the U.S. doesn’t write its fiscal ship of state by 2040, no combination of raising taxes or reducing spending will prevent the financial collapse of the country. Some experts are even predicting that tax rates could have to double in order to honor the nation’s massive financial obligations. A third huge benefit of a Roth IRA is that whatever money you don’t spend during your lifetime passes to your heirs, 100% tax-free –though they’ll have to liquidate those dollars within 10 years. Thinking about Roth IRAs? Just know that distributions from Roth IRAs don’t count as provisional income. In other words, they don’t count against the thresholds that cause Social Security taxation. David explains what can cause up to 85% of your Social Security to become taxable at your highest marginal tax bracket – leaving a huge hole in your Social Security. David has done the math hundreds of times: when you pay tax on your Social Security, you run out of money five to seven years faster than people who don’t pay tax on their Social Security. Finally, Roth IRAs are a tool worth leveraging for the fact that Roth IRA distributions don’t count as income-related monthly adjustment amount (also known as IRMAA). That translates to distributions from your Roth IRAs not counting against the thresholds that cause your Medicare Part B and Part D premiums to go up. David sees the Roth IRA as one of the crown jewels in the IRS tax code. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Penn Wharton

This episode of The Power of Zero Show is part of David McKnight’s podcast interview with Caleb Guilliams and Tom Wall, PhD. David touches upon a recent Ernst & Young study where whole life insurance was used as a buffer-type strategy. When it comes to the “risk continuum”, David sees IUL as slightly on the right side of whole life insurance. IUL is something worth doing only if you think that risk premium can get you a slightly higher rate of return over time. David recognizes that IUL has risks but that, in exchange for those risks, you can get somewhat of a higher rate of return. Whole life policies aren’t something David sees as designed to build money up and then take money out permanently. One of the reasons why David likes the IUL is because you can find a carrier that gives you a guaranteed 0% loan. Some may argue that Wade Pfau, who wrote the foreword for David’s latest book, The Guru Gap, prefers whole life instead of IUL. David’s stated objective is to build up your net worth as effectively as you can. His suggestion for the accumulation period is to save as well as you can and to mostly invest in stocks. David explains his preference for IUL over whole life policies. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Ernst & Young Dave Ramsey Wade Pfau

Today’s episode of The Power of Zero Show features part of David McKnight’s conversation with Caleb Guilliams and Tom Wall, PhD. David kicks things off by addressing the liquidity issue. Handing a chunk of your retirement savings over to an insurance company in exchange for a stream of income that’s guaranteed to last as long as you do sounds great in principle, but people often have consternation about it… The thought of losing liquidity on a significant portion of their net worth is what prevents some Americans from opting for SPEAs and DIAAs. David explains why a fixed index annuity can be a valuable resource to leverage. David discusses what the annuity industry tends to do. In his book, Tax-Free Income for Life, David illustrates the so-called “piecemeal” internal Roth conversion. An internal Roth conversion allows you to convert your annuity into a Roth IRA – with an amount of your choosing and over a timeframe your financial plan calls for. Tom Wall discusses the two phases of an annuity, the accumulation and distribution phases, as well as the repercussions of the perceived loss of liquidity. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com

This episode of The Power of Zero Show is part of David McKnight’s conversation with Caleb Guilliams and Tom Wall, PhD. David touches upon the “dangerous partnership” between the American people and the IRS. David is an advocate for a balanced, comprehensive, approach to tax-free retirement – he explains why that’s the case. One of the things David likes about IULs is the fact that they can perform specific applications that no other stream of income, such as Roth IRAs and Roth 401(k)s, can do. David goes over the unique trait of each of the streams of tax-free income he sees as key components of “the Holy Grail of financial planning”. A Roth IRA, for example, gives you immediate liquidity, while a Roth 401(k) gives you a match. A Roth Conversion allows you to convert an unlimited amount of assets to tax-free. Taking money out of your IRA up to your standard deduction allows you to get a deduction on the front end, grow your money tax-deferred, and take your money out tax-free. An IUL, on the other hand, enables you to get a death benefit in advance, for the purpose of paying for long-term care. A balanced, comprehensive, approach to tax-free retirement capitalizes on all the nooks and crannies in the IRS tax code. David is in agreement with a recent Ernst & Young study inviting people to have 30% of their retirement savings go towards cash-value life insurance. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com TikTok Ernst & Young

In this episode of The Power of Zero Show, David McKnight addresses different strategies for tax-free retirement planning in 2025. Most Americans are a little nervous when it comes to the fiscal trajectory of the U.S.. According to expert forecasts, the likely extension of the 2017 Trump tax cuts would take the current $36 trillion of national debt beyond the estimated $54 trillion by 2034 – taking it all the way to $59 trillion. A recent Penn Wharton study predicts that if the U.S. doesn’t right its fiscal ship of state by 2034, no combination of raising taxes or cutting spending will arrest the financial collapse of the nation. “Former Comptroller General of the Federal Government David Walker says that we may have to double tax rates within the next 10 years in order to keep our country solvent”, says David McKnight. Something important to consider is how to best shield your retirement savings from the potential tsunami of higher taxes down the road. David recommends creating a balanced, comprehensive strategy that takes advantage of all the “nooks and crannies” in the IRS tax code. The cost of getting money into tax-free vehicles is that you have to be willing to pay a tax. The next nine years represent a historical opportunity to pay those taxes while they’re on sale. The approach David suggests thinking about can incorporate as many as six different streams of tax-free income – none of which shows up on the IRS’ radar but all of which contribute to you being in the 0% tax bracket. A tax-free investment means no taxes at all: no federal income tax, no state income tax, or no capital gains tax. When taking distributions, tax-free investments should not count as provisional incomes – meaning that they don’t count against the thresholds which cause Social Security taxation. The Roth IRA is the first truly-tax free retirement account David believes you should be contributing to in 2025. The second truly tax-free account worth considering in 2025 is the Roth 401(k). The potential for a company match is the one thing that makes Roth 401(k) impossible to ignore – and turns it into an instant return on your investment. After a Roth IRA and a Roth 401(k), the third tax-free alternative you should think about this year is a Roth conversion. David discusses the ideal scenario in which you should opt for a Roth conversion. Your IRA or 401(k) is the fourth stream of tax-free income David touches upon. Tax-free distributions from your IRA or 401(k) are what David refers to as “the Holy Grail of financial planning” – since they do something no other strategy can do. The life insurance retirement plan and tax-free Social Security are two additional strategies David dives into. Tax-free Social Security is unique because it shields you from several risks, including tax rate risk, inflation risk, long-term care risk, sequence of returns, and longevity risks. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Donald Trump David Walker Mitt Romney

David McKnight discusses a couple of really good reasons for doing a Roth conversion when you’re expecting a pension in retirement. David sees the American tax system functioning in a similar way as a graduated cylinder. Your income goes in and flows all the way down to the bottom. Some of your money gets taxed at 10%, at 12%, 22%, some at 24%, 32%, at 35%, and some at 37%. Jeff Bezos, too, has some of his earned income taxed at 10% (only for about 3 seconds, though!). If you’re planning on receiving a pension in retirement, understanding how this “tax cylinder” works will be crucial for maximizing your after-tax spendable income. David shares an example showing that your pension and the taxable portion of your Social Security will consume all of your 10% bracket, and most of your 12% bracket – and that’s before you draw $1 from your IRA or 401(k). When you take money out of your IRA or 401(k) in retirement, those dollars will flow into your cylinder and land right on top of all your other income and get taxed at 22%. David explains that after the expiration of Trump tax cuts, the 22% will become 25% and, over the next 10 to 15 years, your personal tax bracket could be even higher! If that scenario were to play out, the portion of your IRA or 401(k) that you get to keep could get smaller and smaller… In case the Trump tax cuts extension does go through, then you could convert your IRA or 401(k) to Roth over nine years of historically low tax rates. David likes to refer to the Trump tax cuts as the “tax sale of a lifetime” – he shares an example that illustrates why. David touches upon what you can do, until 2034, to maximize your after-tax spendable income. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Jeff Bezos

This episode of the Power of Zero Show sees host David McKnight address Dave Ramsey’s advice – inviting a member of his audience to fire his tax advisor for recommending a 401(k). The problem with “financial gurus” like Dave Ramsey and the call-in shows they host is that they provide one-size-fits-all prescriptions that are delivered in very stark black and white terms. While David is an advocate for accumulating money in tax-free retirement vehicles, he also recognizes the importance of nuance with these types of recommendations. David explains that contributing to a Roth 401(k) is a good avenue to explore if you believe that your tax bracket in retirement is going to be higher than it is today. David believes that taxes will rise dramatically over the next 10 years. Following one-size-fits-all advice shared by financial gurus puts you at risk of running out of money faster because you may pay a tax along the way that you didn’t necessarily have to pay… David discusses when you should go for a traditional 401(k) and when it would be wiser to opt for a Roth 401(k) instead. According to a recent Penn Wharton study, if the U.S. doesn't right its fiscal ship of state by 2040, no combination of raising taxes or reducing spending will arrest the financial collapse of the country. David goes over a couple of strategies that could help your money last five to seven years longer. The fact that there are huge benefits to investing in tax-free accounts shouldn’t necessarily translate into you reflexively pouring all your retirement contributions into your Roth 401(k), says David. David shares his thoughts on when it may be a good idea to listen to Dave Ramsey and when it isn’t a clever move to follow his advice. Mentioned in this episode: David’s national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America’s Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Dave Ramsey David Walker Penn Wharton USA Today