‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 2: Who’s Behind the Hotel Robbery?

Summary

The Prestige TV Podcast Summary

Episode: ‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 2: Who’s Behind the Hotel Robbery?
Release Date: February 24, 2025
Hosts: Joanna Robinson, Mali Rubin, Amy Poehler
Produced by: The Ringer Podcast Network

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Introduction

In the latest episode of The Prestige TV Podcast, hosts Joanna Robinson, Mali Rubin, and Amy Poehler delve deep into the second episode of The White Lotus Season 3, titled "Who’s Behind the Hotel Robbery?" This episode focuses on unraveling the complexities of the show's evolving plot, character dynamics, and the mysterious hotel robbery that serves as a central pivot for the season's narrative.

Character Analysis

Walton Goggins as Goggins
Walton Goggins' portrayal of Goggins continues to captivate the hosts. They commend his ability to display a broader emotional range, particularly highlighting his interactions with Chelsea. Goggins transitions from being perceived as a mere antagonist to a more nuanced character grappling with internal struggles between justice and revenge.

"We see a lot more emotional range from him." – Mali Rubin [05:03]

Chelsea (Parker Posey)
Parker Posey's character, Chelsea, emerges as a pivotal figure in this episode. The hosts praise Posey's performance, especially during the brunch scene, where her subtle expressions convey deep-seated emotions without overt dialogue.

"When she's just sort of like, we're just trying to enjoy our lovely fruit plate here." – Amy Poehler [09:07]

Leslie Bibb as Kate
Leslie Bibb's character, Kate, receives accolades for her nuanced performance. Her interactions, particularly her monologue about liking beans, showcase her character's vulnerability and complexity.

"Kate's little monologue about how she talked herself into liking beans is maybe one of my favorite things I've ever seen." – Joanna Robinson [11:15]

Rick (Uncle Babe)
Rick, portrayed as a vigilante lawyer, continues to be a source of intrigue. The hosts discuss his backstory, revealing traumatic events that have shaped his current demeanor and motivations.

"His mom was a drug addict, OD'd when he was 10, and his dad was murdered before he was born." – Amy Poehler [27:55]

Plot and Theories

The central mystery of the hotel robbery has sparked extensive discussion among the hosts. They speculate that the heist might be an inside job, potentially orchestrated by characters like Valentin and Chloe. The seamless execution of the robbery, despite heightened security, raises questions about insider involvement.

"It seems like somebody in that mask, you're just immediately. There's three people." – Joanna Robinson [34:53]

Inside Job Theory
The likelihood of the robbery being an inside job involves characters who have intimate knowledge of the hotel’s operations. Valentin's connection with Chloe, a discreetly presented character, suggests a possible collusion aimed at financial gain or personal vendettas.

Symbolism: Monkeys and Poisonous Seeds
Recurring symbols such as monkey statues and poisonous seeds have not gone unnoticed. The hosts interpret these elements as foreshadowing impending chaos or unexpected twists in the storyline.

"Monkeys having ingested the poison seeds of the fire." – Mali Rubin [55:05]

Acting and Performances

The podcast highlights exceptional performances that elevate the show's narrative:

• Parker Posey at Brunch: Posey's ability to maintain a "catatonic smile" while delivering subtle emotional cues impresses the hosts, emphasizing her skill in portraying complex emotions with minimalistic expressions.

  "That was the scene of the episode." – Amy Poehler [08:21]

• Leslie Bibb's Emotion: Bibb’s portrayal of Kate’s internal turmoil brings depth to her character, making her one of the standout performances in the episode.

  "She was unbelievable." – Amy Poehler [26:54]

Themes and Symbolism

Trust Triangle Dynamics
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the "trust triangle," a concept introduced by Dave Jacoby. This dynamic explores the intricate relationships and loyalties among the characters, often leading to tensions and conflicts.

"If you're going to tell, like if I'm talking to you two, you two are super close. I'm also close to Mallory." – Amy Poehler [07:12]

Female Friendships and Gossip
The hosts dissect the portrayal of female friendships, particularly how gossip and underlying tensions are masqueraded as concern. This theme underscores the complexity of maintaining trust within close-knit groups.

"It's like, whatever. Two are left alone, they're going to talk shit about the one who's not there." – Amy Poehler [07:54]

Notable Quotes

1. Joanna Robinson on Goggins' Emotional Range:

   "We see a lot more emotional range from him." [05:03]

2. Amy Poehler on Chelsea's Charisma:

   "She seems like a pure delight." [06:26]

3. Mali Rubin on Trust Triangle:

   "I'm general, you've both heard me say a version of this where I'm like, I kind of like, don't feel like I need new friends." [14:21]

4. Amy Poehler on Trust Triangle Dynamics:

   "If I tell Mallory something, will she pass it along? Who is she closer to?" [07:26]

5. Joanna Robinson on Theopics:

   "They're constantly talking about each other's sex lives." [30:43]

Predictions and Speculations

Future Developments in Bangkok
The hosts anticipate that the shift to Bangkok will introduce new characters and plot twists. They speculate about intensified criminal activities and the potential unveiling of deeper conspiracies within the hotel.

"They could have showed up on, like, a Thursday. Yeah. So Bangkok, when we go there, that also gives us a chance to maybe have some new characters, too." – Amy Poehler [55:52]

Potential Collapse of the Ratliff Family
Concerns loom over the stability of the Ratliff family, with predictions pointing towards internal conflicts leading to their eventual implosion.

"The Ratliffs all feel like they might just implode." – Mali Rubin [57:52]

Identity and Redemption Arcs
Characters like Quinn are expected to undergo significant personal growth, finding redemption and meaningful self-discovery amidst the unfolding chaos.

"We have an extra episode." – Mali Rubin [23:29]
"He really rallied back." – Mali Rubin [46:26]

Connection to Real-World Elements
The police intervention and the depiction of crime rings within the hotel hint at a blend of fictional storytelling with recognizable real-world crime dynamics. The hosts ponder whether Mike White is drawing inspiration from actual criminal activities to enhance the show's realism.

"What I've been up to? Yeah, this and that. Doing stuff. Going around, hanging out." – Amy Poehler [51:35]

Conclusion

The second episode of The White Lotus Season 3 has set the stage for a season rife with intrigue, complex character relationships, and unfolding mysteries. The hosts of The Prestige TV Podcast effectively dissect the episode’s multifaceted narratives, highlighting standout performances and probing into the symbolic elements that underscore the show's thematic depth. As the season progresses towards Bangkok, anticipation builds around the revelation of the true orchestrators behind the hotel robbery and the eventual fates of the enthralling ensemble cast.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "We see a lot more emotional range from him." – Mali Rubin [05:03]
• "Kate's little monologue about how she talked herself into liking beans is maybe one of my favorite things I've ever seen." – Joanna Robinson [11:15]
• "That was the scene of the episode." – Amy Poehler [08:21]
• "If I tell Mallory something, will she pass it along? Who is she closer to?" – Amy Poehler [07:26]
• "She seems like a pure delight." – Amy Poehler [06:26]

These quotes encapsulate the hosts' insights and reactions, providing listeners with direct reflections from the discussion.

Transcript

[Joanna Robinson]

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[Mali Rubin]

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[Joanna Robinson]

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[Mali Rubin]

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[Amy Poehler]

Hi, everyone, it's Amy Poehler and I'm launching a new podcast called Good Hang. In preparation for that, I asked some of my friends to send in some videos and give me some advice. Just be yourself and the guests will come. Don't be the celebrity that this is their, like sixth thing they're doing.

[Mali Rubin]

I love true crime and cooking podcasts.

[Joanna Robinson]

Is there any way you could combine the two?

[Amy Poehler]

Well, everyone has an opinion and a podcast, so join me for Good Hang. It's rough out there.

[Mali Rubin]

We're just trying to lighten it up a little.

[Amy Poehler]

This episode is brought to you by Marvel Television's Born Again. Charlie Cox returns as vigilante lawyer Matt Murdock and Vincent D'Onofrio as former mob boss Wilson Fisk. The darker side of Matt Murdock is revealed when he gains a new perspective on his role as the Daredevil and faces an internal struggle between justice and revenge. The devil's work is never done. Don't miss the two episode premiere of Daredevil Born Again on March 4th, only on Disney. The prestige TV podcast, brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network. You can watch this on video on Spotify. You can watch it on YouTube on the Ringer Dash TV YouTube channel. Joanna Robinson is here. Mali Rubin is here.

[Mali Rubin]

Hello.

[Joanna Robinson]

Hello.

[Mali Rubin]

Hello.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm just. You look great, but you look tired. Yeah, might be the drinking.

[Mali Rubin]

The old Doctor who.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. Doesn't she look tired?

[Mali Rubin]

Doesn't she look tired?

[Amy Poehler]

She looks great.

[Mali Rubin]

Brutal.

[Amy Poehler]

Just looks tired.

[Joanna Robinson]

Anyway, going after it, you know what I mean?

[Mali Rubin]

I was going to say to you that your numbers seem like those of a man half your age. I guess since we came in with different energies today.

[Joanna Robinson]

She says that to everyone, though.

[Amy Poehler]

All the walking. We are covering episode two, White Lotus. If you missed episode one, that it's already out there.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

In the library and the archives. We have intentionally not been watching ahead. We've all made it packed.

[Joanna Robinson]

It's been very sad.

[Amy Poehler]

Why'd you make a face? Have you watched ahead?

[Mali Rubin]

No, I never watch ahead. I actually hate watching ahead.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm the problem.

[Mali Rubin]

Joe's the Problem.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm the problem in other respects.

[Amy Poehler]

But on this channel, we taped episode one yesterday, and then we had to power watch twice. Episode two, and it's getting good. Your favorite thing about episode two, Joggins.

[Joanna Robinson]

Getting to be a bit more Goggins.

[Mali Rubin]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Goggins is back.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Great Rick episode.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

That was mine, too, because it feels like now. Okay. The Ratliffs were really the stars of episode one. This was a big Rick Chelsea episode. I'm expecting that episode three, as a result will be Laurie, Jacqueline, and you.

[Joanna Robinson]

Can say the Cougars. I have a cougars. I have a cougars.

[Amy Poehler]

What you call them? The fancy cougars.

[Joanna Robinson]

I have a cougars theory about why I feel great about Colin. Cougars. They're predators.

[Mali Rubin]

I love it.

[Joanna Robinson]

Are they not?

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

And they're looking for the weakest one among them to sort of like, pick off. It's wild.

[Amy Poehler]

I like that.

[Joanna Robinson]

But yeah, Rick like the dinner scene with Greg when he has Greg's number.

[Mali Rubin]

She's with Joanna. He goes by Gary now.

[Joanna Robinson]

Okay, Gary.

[Mali Rubin]

Imagine going into hiding for Thailand in a year and being like, you know, Greg, I know what I'll do.

[Joanna Robinson]

Greg's out. Gary's in.

[Amy Poehler]

I would have gone, like, I don't know. Different first letter.

[Joanna Robinson]

What's your.

[Mali Rubin]

What you're gonna hide under one day?

[Joanna Robinson]

No, but I want to hear. But if I'm.

[Amy Poehler]

If I'm Greg, I'm going to like Mitchell or like something that doesn't sound remotely like Craig. I'm not just changing the last three letters.

[Joanna Robinson]

But you want to get fancy and be like Aloysius or something like that. They'll never suspect.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, for him, yeah, probably. But even Michael, it's just anything.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, Michael. Michael would have been totally.

[Joanna Robinson]

When he's talking to Gary and he's. What do you do, Gary? You know that just like that, Goggins smile came out. He's just sort of like this piece of shit. I recognize you. It was great.

[Amy Poehler]

Little this, little that this little that. A little of this and a little of that. So that was your favorite as well, Goggins?

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

It was just a thrill to have more time with Rick. And for the thing about Goggins that's such a wonderful brew is she likes to gently, lovingly mock me when my Baltimore accent comes out when I say brewing, the menacing quality that's always under the surface. But the fact that you were so magnetically drawn to him like that was present with Rick in this episode and the first episode, it was like, you're really actually just a dick. To Chelsea. Huh. And here we got that. But like immediately followed by what struck me as like a wave of shame for calling her an idiot. We see a lot more emotional range from him.

[Joanna Robinson]

And of course, we learn the more after the robbery. Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Running to her, embracing her. Yeah. And of course, learn some backstory.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, we talked in episode one is like, what's the actual relationship with this? And we were debating like, is this like a prostitute he picked up or somebody who's running a bit with him?

[Mali Rubin]

Or you were debating it?

[Joanna Robinson]

That was.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, I didn't know if it was somebody he hired because he's trying to do a mission, but.

[Joanna Robinson]

Chloe, we know.

[Mali Rubin]

But you're right because Rick was like, I am very sure of what's going on here.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yes.

[Mali Rubin]

He clocked it immediately. So, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Chelsea. The Chelsea Rick relationship. Really?

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

We were like, when are we gonna get a sex scene? We get a sex scene in this episode.

[Mali Rubin]

What do we. It seems like a Prelud PG13 sex scene. Some nipple suckling, boob grab. A little bit more than grab. I think we grab with his mouth. But yes.

[Joanna Robinson]

Walton Goggins, a 53 year old man, looks incredible shirtless. Wonderful. Wonderful. Oh, my God. And there just was like some real tenderness, it felt like between them there. So you understood their connection a bit better.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. And she. She got a scrub and a wax. So she was ready.

[Joanna Robinson]

She was ready.

[Amy Poehler]

Scrub, wax. This was the episode I couldn't get a handle on our girl Amy Lou, first episode. She's very distinct looking, right?

[Mali Rubin]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

So she's got the big teeth. That's like a big feature. And she's got this happy. And I was like, I don't. I don't know. But by episode two, I'm all in.

[Joanna Robinson]

You're in.

[Amy Poehler]

She's a mega crush on her now and really worried she's gonna die at the end of this episode.

[Mali Rubin]

She did respond.

[Amy Poehler]

She seems like a pure delight.

[Mali Rubin]

She said, twice in this episode, I almost died today. Like, I just need the show to stop making us think about how Chelsea could or almost died. It's too stressful.

[Joanna Robinson]

She feels safe to me. I couldn't tell you why.

[Amy Poehler]

My. My favorite thing in the episode. The Cougars win again. For me. This was Dave Jacoby's trust triangle in action. Dave Jacoby.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Always had this thing, our friend Dave Jacoby about. If there's three people, two are always closer than any other two in the triangle. And if you're going to tell, like if I'm talking to you two, you two are super close. I'm also close to Mallory.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And there would be some trust triangle stuff with Mallory, but I think I. I think she'd side to. You have a pod. But you just always have to keep the trust triangle in mind. If I tell Mallory something, will she pass it along? Who is she closer to? And in this case.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, the dynamics. This is so complicated. What a rich subplot. Well, in this case, she's definitely the Kate. There's. Oh, I feel like in a triangle there's always like a hinge. You know what I mean? But like.

[Amy Poehler]

No, but here's the thing. In the church triangle, I don't think.

[Mali Rubin]

But I don't think that's.

[Amy Poehler]

I don't think anyone trusts anybody more than anyone else. That's what made this so interesting. It's like, whatever. Two are left alone, they're going to talk shit about the one who's not there. And that's what we have established.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm interested to see Laurie and Jacqueline. If they go after Kate, which there's plenty to go after. But I just thought in both of.

[Amy Poehler]

Those scenarios, that'll be episode three. You kidding?

[Joanna Robinson]

I hope so. But both those scenarios. My favorite person to watch in both those scenarios was Leslie Bibb as Kate. Because there was just something about her, like, feline smile when she's just sort of like. Well, you know, she's just like so excited to dig in, like all couched in concern and all of. Oh, my God, Big fake smile. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I gotta be honest, I didn't know she was this good of an actress.

[Joanna Robinson]

She's great.

[Amy Poehler]

This is like a kind of a monster performance by her so far.

[Joanna Robinson]

I feel like this is part of White Lotus's genius, is like sometimes you see someone who you've seen in a ton of things, and then Mike White is like, no, I know exactly what to do with this energy.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

I have a great idea for this.

[Amy Poehler]

I mean, the. The most fun scene with her was the Parker Posey scene at the brunch. That was the scene of the episode.

[Mali Rubin]

Simply astonishing.

[Joanna Robinson]

I agree. Because, I mean, Parker Posey also tremendous in that, like, I don't know how.

[Amy Poehler]

They film that without, like, laughing.

[Joanna Robinson]

Her catatonic smile or just sort of like squinting and smiling. Oh, my God, that is such a power move. Could you ever pull that at a restaurant or someone? Or have you. Someone comes up to you, is like, do you remember we spent a weekend together in Austin? And you just smile at them silently.

[Mali Rubin]

Just really trying to enjoy my lovely fruit plate here.

[Amy Poehler]

Pound fruit Right now.

[Mali Rubin]

That was so fascinating. Like, she did have a beat of what I thought was nervous energy. Like, there's obviously a. Okay. I just am not interested. I'm here with my family. That's on the surface because she's saying it to them after. But it seems like maybe she did something that weekend that she doesn't want Kate to share.

[Joanna Robinson]

Maybe my interpretation is that she doesn't.

[Mali Rubin]

Remember because she's just zonked out on drugs. She's zonked out on drugs all the time.

[Joanna Robinson]

And it's one of those, like, nervous covers.

[Mali Rubin]

Right.

[Joanna Robinson]

For I don't remember you.

[Mali Rubin]

I spent an entire.

[Joanna Robinson]

Wasn't your hair different? And then you're a little embarrassed, so you're, like, kind of bitchy about it.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

You know what I mean? And then you sort of laugh it off with your family and say, like, actresses are prostitutes and just sort of trying to cover.

[Mali Rubin]

That was also a great moment for all of the actors at the table.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

The number of, like, meta commentary moments through these two episodes so far. And this cast is really game. Like, they're really down, both in the macro and the specific things about them that they know. Maybe people have whispered or said, we talked about this. We talked about it off mic. And then it's like, we got to bring it on mic in this episode because it was so central to the text. Like, the conversations are just all about these things and the. I mean, you can't cast these roles unless the performers are, like, willing to participate.

[Joanna Robinson]

Acting for Walton Goggins to be like, I'm not going bald. And Amy Lou's character being like, okay, okay.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Or them talking about, oh, she had a little bit more than the basics. A little bit more. She, like, sandblast. She looks waxy.

[Mali Rubin]

Looks a little waxy. Yeah, she looks great.

[Joanna Robinson]

Everyone looks amazing.

[Mali Rubin]

She looks great.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I guess we can go through. And dip through some of the major moments. The Cougars talking about Carrie Coon when she wasn't there.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Dude.

[Amy Poehler]

This was so we. We learn. We learn she got divorced from a.

[Joanna Robinson]

Freeloader, has to pay alimony.

[Amy Poehler]

Has to pay alimony. We learn her daughter is violent.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Leading Leslie Bim to start bashing the New York City school system.

[Mali Rubin]

She throws furniture. And how do you raise your kid in New York? Because they're all, like, sucking each other off at 8 years old.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. But that happens in Texas, too.

[Amy Poehler]

The kids are sucking each other off at 8 years old. He's in the running for best line of the season so far.

[Joanna Robinson]

But I Love, actually. I cannot wait for them to turn on her on Kate, because Kate's little monologue about how she talked herself into liking beans is maybe one of my favorite things I've ever seen.

[Mali Rubin]

That was.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, so more backhanded compliments.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

She always defined herself by her work.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Brutal.

[Amy Poehler]

Didn't get the big promotion. No wonder she looks defeated. Well, she looks great. Yeah, she does. She does. She also looks tired. And then maybe it's the drinking. They're just fucking everything. And then all of a sudden, she shows up and they have to pretend they weren't talking. Better.

[Joanna Robinson]

Genuine jump scare. Genuine jump scare.

[Mali Rubin]

Locked door, hammered.

[Joanna Robinson]

But here's the question. Do you think she heard them?

[Amy Poehler]

I don't.

[Mali Rubin]

I don't think she heard them, though obviously she suspects that they're talking about her just from having, like, watched them previously. And then we get that nice bookend of Jacqueline at the end, hearing them whispering, and she just. We don't know if she can make out what they're saying, but it doesn't matter. She knows they're talking. It's like the exact thing you say whenever one member of that group leaves the room, they know the other person is talking about it.

[Joanna Robinson]

What's fascinating about Jacqueline? Her.

[Amy Poehler]

You mean Jacqueline Lemon, TV star.

[Mali Rubin]

I loved that we got the full name.

[Joanna Robinson]

Wonderful that she didn't creep up to listen to what they were saying.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

And I think this. It speaks to, like, at the end, you talk about. Yeah, at the end she's like, they're whispering. Obviously they're whispering about me. Obviously they would be jealous of me and talk about me while I'm.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, I'm gonna go take a bath.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. Oh, okay.

[Amy Poehler]

They must be talking about how great I look.

[Joanna Robinson]

Exactly.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. It's interesting. And I feel like the. The through line in all of the different versions of the trust triangle so far is, like, concern, but it's hot goss. Like they just can't wait to spill the tea. Masquerade it as human, though.

[Joanna Robinson]

I don't know. It's completely related to, like. I don't know if it's cross gender, but definitely inside of female friendships for sure. Where it's just this sort of like, this shit talking couched as concern.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And.

[Joanna Robinson]

But there's that sort of, like, what's.

[Mali Rubin]

Going on with this bitch? I really hope she's like, okay.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm sure she's fine. She'll be okay. She's a survivor. But then there's the giddiness. Survivor. Yeah, but there's like, A giddiness that comes to it. It's like, it's. It's gross.

[Amy Poehler]

Let me tell you something. I. I've been with my wife a long time, since 1998.

[Mali Rubin]

This was for me.

[Amy Poehler]

I've also dated other girls before her.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

This was always my favorite thing about dating. Somebody is listening to that dynamic of all of these relationships.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And especially if the group gets bigger. Like in college, you have these groups of like, oh, yeah, 12, 13 girls. And there's like five different cliques that all hate each other. And then within the little cliques, there's drama going on. It's amazing.

[Joanna Robinson]

There's like. It's that specific. No, I love her. But.

[Amy Poehler]

But it's the. That.

[Joanna Robinson]

That.

[Mali Rubin]

But that they have really mastered in these two episodes so far. It's like not even a full beat. It's a half beat right before they either finally jump in. It's like, oh, I'm reluctant to take the bite. No, I'm gonna make a whole meal out of it and dive right in. Or the inverse of that.

[Amy Poehler]

There's some friends that just will not go there, though. Like, my wife has definitely had a couple over the years that it's like, if the shit talking's around, they're just out. They're like, you're like this actually. You're not a shit talker.

[Mali Rubin]

No, I try not to.

[Amy Poehler]

If they're shit talker, you're just out. You listen, but you're not saying anything.

[Mali Rubin]

This is what's interesting about this is like. And I've been trying to think about their dynamic of we don't have a lot of time with them so far. But it's like, why are these people choosing to spend time together? Right. I'm at the point in my life, genuinely, you've both heard me say a version of this where I'm like, I kind of like, don't feel like I need new friends. Like, it's wonderful when I make a new friend, but I want to spend time with people I genuinely care about.

[Amy Poehler]

Is Joanna your last new friend? Friend.

[Joanna Robinson]

My God. I got in before you closed the door.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, you got in the nightclub. The nightclub closed.

[Mali Rubin]

I'll have to think about it. It's entirely possible we've, like, known each other for like, seven years and very well, for four years. So I've probably made at least one new friend since then. But I might not have. I'll have to reflect.

[Joanna Robinson]

I feel like when you don't leave your house, you don't need to make a lot of friends.

[Mali Rubin]

That's true. So, you know, they're like, you can't.

[Amy Poehler]

Really like the postmates guy.

[Mali Rubin]

No, I mean, Adam usually answers caviar guy. Honestly, I have not met any of them.

[Joanna Robinson]

The. The.

[Mali Rubin]

Oh, you can't really make new memories when you only have dinner twice a year. And then Jacqueline's like. I mean, I haven't really even seen Laurie in four years. Why are they here telling themselves how much they care about.

[Amy Poehler]

It's amazing. It's an amazing thing.

[Mali Rubin]

Surely a different reason for that. Like, for Jacqueline, it feels like it's. This is how I tether myself to some sense of, like, I'm still a regular, normal person, but also those people who make me feel that way are gonna tell me how great I am, and I feel special.

[Joanna Robinson]

I think it's the opposite.

[Mali Rubin]

That's the relationship that lets her feel both of those things.

[Joanna Robinson]

I think she wants to feel like the most beautiful, rich, famous around her. Like, I mean, my sense is that Kate is also enormously wealthy, but, like, her insecurity inside of this relationship she has with this guy that she's obsessed with who's 10 years younger than her, but she's feeling insecure. She wants to be around people who are normal so she can feel special.

[Amy Poehler]

I agree with Joanna. I think. Well, there's also. There's the baggage of. These people all grew up together, so they had to compete in a whole bunch of different ways at a younger age.

[Mali Rubin]

I like that. It's like she's telling all the rich and famous and people around her are making shows. They're. No, yeah, I'm just going to hang out with my friends from home. But then when she's with them, she gets to feel special. So it's like. It's the. The. The one relationship in her life, presumably, that still allows her, like, access. All of that.

[Amy Poehler]

No, but there's one other piece of that, though. These are the people that knew her before anything happened to her. Right. So you're always going to have a different relationship with people that knew you and whatever. Right. So now she's this famous actress. She has a manager, an agent. She has all the people on the show. She has all these, like, fake Hollywood friends, but these people, hypothetically, in her head, these are the ones that know me for me. And yet she's just as fake with them.

[Joanna Robinson]

They're also. Yeah. Keepers of the memory. Like, we get the. We had the story about, like, remember the talent show we did together? This, that and the other thing I found Jacqueline's Reaction to finding out that Lori had the same biometrics she had and got the same thing. Oh, that was the most telling part of the episode was so funny.

[Amy Poehler]

She was furious that she wasn't, like, the leader.

[Joanna Robinson]

Is that right?

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Do you think that's right? My hydration level was one of the highest he's ever seen. No one will ever say that.

[Amy Poehler]

The thing is, like, we. So we did a live rewatchables, and one of your best friends came and hung out with us for the night.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yes.

[Mali Rubin]

Allison.

[Amy Poehler]

She just was Mal's friend who just joined us.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Mal wasn't just constantly going, we're best friends. We've known each other forever. We're so close. Like, you usually say that if it's not actually that close.

[Mali Rubin]

And that was the point they made.

[Joanna Robinson]

That she says that about me.

[Mali Rubin]

That was the point they made about her marriage.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

The fact that you feel compelled to say out loud, we're addicted to each other.

[Amy Poehler]

Right.

[Mali Rubin]

Ultimate red flag. I don't trust people. This used to be my thing back in the day, 100 years ago with Rachael Ray. I'm like, I.

[Amy Poehler]

This does.

[Mali Rubin]

You seem like, can anybody enjoy anything?

[Joanna Robinson]

Even the. The act Rachel Ray catching strays in 2025.

[Mali Rubin]

I should say. I have not engaged with any Rachel Ray content in a really long time. But, like, my sister used to watch it. This was when I was a kid, like, in high school, and I was just like, I don't. This level of. Of happiness, I just. I can't understand it. It doesn't seem.

[Amy Poehler]

We gotta stay on this for a second. I'm probably sharing too much, but this.

[Joanna Robinson]

Is the child of divorce energy.

[Amy Poehler]

We're just naturally suspicious of love at all times. No, but this is so.

[Mali Rubin]

I can't get enough of my husband. Give me a break.

[Amy Poehler]

No, I'm. I'm sharing too much. But I get suspicious when couples do too much social media about their relationship.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I always talk to my.

[Mali Rubin]

I'm like, it's a performance.

[Amy Poehler]

The divorce crows are circling. Anytime the pictures start coming fast and furious, I always assume something bad happened.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I don't really do any of that stuff. I did get my wife Valentine's Day flowers today.

[Mali Rubin]

How lovely. Four hours into the morning, Adam and I remembered that we had forgotten it was Valentine's Day. I only remember because we are prepping for our V Day quickie podcast. I mentioned it to him, and I swear to God, he said, I gotta go say Happy Valentine's Day to Halo.

[Amy Poehler]

That was his answer, your cat.

[Mali Rubin]

And I was like, me too. So in that sense, we remain in lockstep.

[Joanna Robinson]

But yeah, no, but you guys both talk about your spouses and like, the stuff that you guys watch together and stuff like that. You just don't have to, like, you don't have to, like, perform it. It's the performance that is the red.

[Amy Poehler]

Flag and that's where social media gets really interesting. But that's like, great take. Even with these three going away together. And I don't know if they're gonna do this in a later episode, but like the, the Instagram posts of them together, like, all the phoniness that comes with that stuff in their yoga, one of them will do it.

[Mali Rubin]

The passing by in the, in the yoga gear.

[Amy Poehler]

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[Amy Poehler]

Coming back, the rat lifts. We just started out with a shot of Patrick Schwarzenegger's butt crack and Locky kind of checking it out in a way that made me uncomfortable.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, Deeply uncomfortable.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, he's. He is. Considering the male form, that seems clear.

[Amy Poehler]

Parker Posey slept like a corpse.

[Mali Rubin]

I slept like a corpse. Is again. So let's, let's consider.

[Joanna Robinson]

Vicki was my number one last week. She's my number one again.

[Mali Rubin]

So. Okay, that was my question.

[Amy Poehler]

She's. We could do MVPs right now. Clear. MVP of episode two.

[Mali Rubin]

Does a line like that make you feel sure she's not going to die or. Sure she is.

[Amy Poehler]

No, you're putting her in the death in the death suites.

[Joanna Robinson]

Here's what I'm trying to. Okay. I'm always trying to like, figure out based on what we've seen before, it's the hot messes that have died. In the last example. Yeah, she's a hot. She's coming out the gate. A hot mess.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Is that. Is he gonna zag off of the hot messes? Armand like, devolved into a hot mess.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes, yes. He squired.

[Amy Poehler]

He sure did.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. So like, it's the drugs or the drinking and the hot messeries. Like usually.

[Amy Poehler]

No, but she. Here's the key with her. She's clearly always a hot mess because they fit. The family has hit the point when stuff is happening with her, they're all like exchanging little looks at each other like, oh, here goes, Mom.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

So this is 365 days a year she's like this.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

She had. Yeah. She's zonked out at breakfast. She can't remember Cage. She fell asleep at dinner.

[Amy Poehler]

In the first episode.

[Joanna Robinson]

She has to take a.

[Mali Rubin]

Take a pill before the massage.

[Joanna Robinson]

There's a lot. The thing that's going to react, that's going to relax you.

[Amy Poehler]

She was unbelievable.

[Joanna Robinson]

Also, her ordering the Thai food just the way that she was pronouncing it with her. Yeah, very good.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, we learned Saxton takes Adderall all.

[Mali Rubin]

Day just to get shit done.

[Joanna Robinson]

But before he says that, he does his, like his. I don't do constant sucking up. I'm like you, dad. I'm just like you, dad. I don't do drugs.

[Amy Poehler]

Right.

[Joanna Robinson]

I would never.

[Amy Poehler]

Steroids.

[Mali Rubin]

Also, the fact that Tim, our guy Tim was very adamant about saying he doesn't, you know, doesn't. His body is a temple. Right. I just want to spend all of my vacation at the gym. I don't do drugs. I'm still on. I think we probably all should be. Poison fruit watch with this family.

[Joanna Robinson]

Like, oh, because we're getting a blender sponsor for that.

[Amy Poehler]

Poison fruit watch is brought to us.

[Joanna Robinson]

We're getting a blender from the butler for the poison fruit.

[Mali Rubin]

Exactly. So Saxon trying to use the. The poisoned seeds for something and then either his father accidentally consumes it or his mother guzzles it something. It's like terrible.

[Amy Poehler]

The Wall Street Journal coming on location.

[Mali Rubin]

Well, now, can I make. You might have a whole gag. Yeah, like, I'm with you. I was thinking about this too. It's the dysfunctional. Rick is our red herring, I think. Right. He's there actively seeking violence and vengeance, but that's not really where the violence comes from. It's the dysfunctional crew that ends up delivering it. And that's the rat list.

[Joanna Robinson]

Knowing that there is Lorazepam that he's like, I won't take. But watching him unravel. Tim, I'm talking about over the course of the episode. Is he gonna be digging into his wife's readily available pharmacy at any given time in the season?

[Amy Poehler]

That would affect him angrily sprinting on the treadmill. That is tough, tough times for the treadmill in this episode.

[Mali Rubin]

I would not spend my vacation that way personally.

[Amy Poehler]

So we also have the baby shower meeting, which I thought was a great scene. I actually thought Leslie Bibb was really good in that scene. Just keeping the frozen face on.

[Mali Rubin]

So do you remember me?

[Amy Poehler]

We met at a baby shower. So what? Who cares? Actresses are all basically prostitutes if they're lucky. And the kids are just laughing.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

They're like, oh, mom's on one and it's breakfast.

[Joanna Robinson]

But this is the family. They make, like, the most hideous jokes and then they laugh about it. I love it.

[Amy Poehler]

I felt right at home.

[Mali Rubin]

I bet. Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm always the Piper.

[Mali Rubin]

Piper. It's like a Disneyland for rich bohemians from Malibu in their Lululemon yoga pants.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Mike Whites. That's it. That's the show.

[Amy Poehler]

Mike White's, like, done.

[Mali Rubin]

Bingo.

[Joanna Robinson]

But then we see Piper doing yoga, by the way.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Getting a lot of looks from her.

[Amy Poehler]

Lbh. Yeah, the lb. Just checking out. She looked great, by the way. Doing the yoga.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Too much uninterrupted eye contact from that lbh.

[Joanna Robinson]

Bend your spine elsewhere.

[Amy Poehler]

I MD beat her because she was looking familiar, and it was driving me crazy. She was in that devil, that movie. The Late Night with the devil.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

That's what she's from. But I didn't. I didn't make the connection the first episode. Did you see that movie? Horror movie?

[Mali Rubin]

Absolutely.

[Joanna Robinson]

I think they've styled her so differently.

[Amy Poehler]

So really, really good movie. Yeah, they darkened her hair and they did some stuff. But. But the big thing, and it's sad that I thought of Mal immediately was Saxton.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, the boner.

[Amy Poehler]

Getting. Getting a massage. I'm like, here we go. The massage, boner scene. We're on alert. And then boom, they went for it.

[Mali Rubin]

Saxon delivered across the entire episode. Once again, though, what do you think.

[Amy Poehler]

For, like, a robotic fake boner under the sheets? Like, was there special Effects involved.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Some sort of thing, like hydraulic underneath there.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, hydraulic. I think probably.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Blowing up something.

[Joanna Robinson]

Are you hoping that HBO has an end of the episode? Sort of Making of the Boner.

[Amy Poehler]

Can I buy this at a store? Can I surprise my wife with it one night? Like, what?

[Mali Rubin]

Probably available.

[Amy Poehler]

Is it on Amazon? How do I get it?

[Mali Rubin]

I'm sure you can find something similar. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

So then we have Chelsea, who's just talking during her massage. She's one of those.

[Mali Rubin]

Yep.

[Amy Poehler]

Just, like, talking about different.

[Joanna Robinson]

The Enneagram.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

We have the dad Angler running on a treadmill.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm sure this is related. What do you do during your massages? Really relatable podcasting content. But, like, I'm a. No. No talking. Why are we talking?

[Amy Poehler]

Point is to, like, fall asleep.

[Joanna Robinson]

I just want to listen to the tv, zone out. You don't get massages.

[Mali Rubin]

I've only had one massage in my. I feel like entire life.

[Amy Poehler]

Entire vertebrae would just crumble like chocolate chips.

[Joanna Robinson]

What if we got you a lorazepam to take before. Before the massage?

[Amy Poehler]

Can we do a ringer video Mal getting a massage, like a Swedish massage? I don't know what happened. I really feel like, like, vertebrates would just chip up.

[Mali Rubin]

It's entire. It's entirely possible. Yeah. Just pretzel dust.

[Joanna Robinson]

Or I could just change your life.

[Mali Rubin]

I did enjoy the one I had. It was like a mud treatment.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Very soothing.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Wonderful.

[Amy Poehler]

There were a couple treatments during this episode that I looked at my wife. There was that foot treatment that Belinda was getting. I was like, what is that?

[Joanna Robinson]

That was amazing.

[Mali Rubin]

Milk, soap.

[Joanna Robinson]

Whole thing was. I mean, agree. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Parker Posey takes the pills before the massage. Aggressive.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And then let's talk. Our guy Goggins doing stress therapy.

[Mali Rubin]

Boy. And locking in the deprivation tank.

[Joanna Robinson]

Locking the deprivation tank also, just, by the way, for the Ratliff family.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes.

[Joanna Robinson]

You're killing it, Pam. She got great treatments for all of them. You're killing it, Pam.

[Mali Rubin]

Pam. But then she went. She had to go and tell Tim to get off his phone call.

[Joanna Robinson]

And he's like, I would feel a lot better if you stopped talking to me, Pam. She's like, okay, cut it out. You want to talk about Goggin's therapy? We learned a lot.

[Mali Rubin]

We really did.

[Amy Poehler]

Learned a lot. Finally, Goggins showed up for the season.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Felt like he was on autopilot for a episode and a quarter. And then now we get some real acting going and some real.

[Mali Rubin]

Here we go. It's a heavy Story. So his mom was a drug addict, OD'd when he was 10, and his dad was murdered before he was born. So are we pivoting?

[Joanna Robinson]

I. Scott.

[Mali Rubin]

So Jim Hollinger is not his father. He's the guy that killed his dad. Killed his dad or.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, that was the story he was told, that his dad was murdered and.

[Mali Rubin]

His dad was actually his dad.

[Amy Poehler]

It's one or the other.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I think both are in play. Yeah. And I think it's even odds for each. Each. Each way that goes.

[Mali Rubin]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

I've never had an identity. I'm nothing. Nothing comes from nothing.

[Joanna Robinson]

Right.

[Mali Rubin]

This was actually heartbreaking.

[Amy Poehler]

First time you came close to tears, or was it the bonus?

[Joanna Robinson]

It talks about things of the wise Indian, though, don't you think?

[Mali Rubin]

I was really moved by this. I thought it was really sad and touching.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, it was also touching that Saxton was furious he didn't get a happy ending and that Parker Posey thought this was hilarious.

[Mali Rubin]

Just an unbelievable scene.

[Joanna Robinson]

All the shitty things he says is so funny.

[Amy Poehler]

They're kind of perfect. They're the best couple on the show.

[Mali Rubin]

And Piper is just like, how is this my family? How Lachie again pulled.

[Joanna Robinson]

Right.

[Mali Rubin]

The tug of lockie, the tug of war. But Piper's just like, this is not. Why do you guys think these things are okay to say we get another version of it at the dinner table later. It's an incredible dynamic.

[Amy Poehler]

So he's drawing into characters he's kind of messed with before.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Parker Posey's on the Coolidge character. Corner. Jennifer Coolidge character. We talked about how Saxton is like the Jake Lacey on steroids. Basically.

[Joanna Robinson]

Theo jams, then Piper.

[Amy Poehler]

Pieces of, like, the Sydney Sweeney and. And her friend that season one.

[Joanna Robinson]

The.

[Amy Poehler]

The two kind of.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

A little bit judgmental, like, just, you know, I guess she's supposed to be.

[Mali Rubin]

Ashamed of her family. She's.

[Joanna Robinson]

She's at the end.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

So she's in that judgmental, I don't really like anybody face, which is, by.

[Joanna Robinson]

The way, peered away.

[Amy Poehler]

When you're the parent.

[Joanna Robinson]

Some of us never grow out of it.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. It's really great to go through. I have no personal experience of this at all, but. But my goal for Parker Posey and Saxton for one of the next episodes is Saxon.

[Mali Rubin]

There's no T in the middle.

[Amy Poehler]

I call him Saxton.

[Mali Rubin]

Why?

[Amy Poehler]

I thought it was Saxton.

[Joanna Robinson]

No.

[Mali Rubin]

Are you sure?

[Joanna Robinson]

Saxon? Yeah. Certain.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Mal's always right about names, as, I.

[Mali Rubin]

Don'T know.

[Amy Poehler]

Have a name mess up.

[Joanna Robinson]

I think I Said it wrong last week.

[Mali Rubin]

Favorite character in the history of television. I'm sure I'll mess up other names at some point, but not. Not Dear Saxon.

[Amy Poehler]

Can we get Saxon and Parker Posey? Just the two of them going out in the town in Thailand. I'm going shopping and maybe getting a drink. And yeah, just like.

[Joanna Robinson]

And then what?

[Amy Poehler]

10 minutes together just being offensive to each other.

[Mali Rubin]

We already said there's some serious Targaryen energy from this family. If Damon can dream about his mom, why can't we get that with Victoria and Saxon? No. Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

You're going Targaryen energy with this family.

[Mali Rubin]

They're constantly talking about each other's sex lives.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. The conversation between Lachi and Piper virginity.

[Mali Rubin]

Wait, have you ever used an ocean hammock like that? That seemed amazing.

[Joanna Robinson]

That looked so nice.

[Amy Poehler]

Never had.

[Mali Rubin]

I was hoping you'd be able to tell us what it was like. That seemed great.

[Joanna Robinson]

Let's go. Okay. And just read in the ocean hammock all day?

[Amy Poehler]

I don't think so. No, I think hammocks are great.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. And it's like you're in it. You're in the water. You are enough to be refreshed.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

But also you're above the water, though. Maybe then you'd get cold. But it does seem very hot. Hot there. It seemed lovely.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, they have, like, some of those destination places where they build the hotel. It's just in the water.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I wouldn't be able to do that.

[Mali Rubin]

No.

[Joanna Robinson]

Like the malt freak you out?

[Amy Poehler]

You were. You're just like. If there's like a big wave, you just all die, basically.

[Mali Rubin]

One of my best friends just did this for a honeymoon. It sounded great.

[Amy Poehler]

Really? Yeah. Apparently. As long as you get over the.

[Joanna Robinson]

Mal to sponsor us, I will go to the Maltese.

[Amy Poehler]

Maybe that's season four. Okay. And then we talked about the. The cougars with the body fat compliment battles.

[Mali Rubin]

Incredible.

[Amy Poehler]

Let me get more info that she's married somebody who she's 10 years younger than or older than.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. So truly. Truly.

[Amy Poehler]

I was trying to think of the parallels with this in Hollywood. Ashton Kutcher.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Just not. Not a common thing, though. The famous actress marrying the 10 years younger guy.

[Joanna Robinson]

Right, right.

[Mali Rubin]

And the implication is that he's also famous.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yes.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes. Because he's the object of much attention.

[Amy Poehler]

It feels like this will go badly during the eight episode run of the show, this relationship.

[Mali Rubin]

They're encouraging Laurie as the, quote, only single one to pursue Valentin. That's like canon in the show now, right there's an allusion to some past epade in Cancun. So Jacqueline going in after Jacqueline Lemon after encouraging Laurie to go for it. And then Jacqueline steps in and, I.

[Joanna Robinson]

Mean, maybe, but Lori just doesn't seem interested in Valentine. And by the way, a little.

[Mali Rubin]

Little eye. Little eyeglass thing, by the way. Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

I don't think Valentine's interested in any of the ladies.

[Amy Poehler]

No, I. I'm gay talks.

[Joanna Robinson]

So. Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Wait.

[Joanna Robinson]

No, no. I was staring for Robbie.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, yeah. He's in on the. He's in on the.

[Joanna Robinson]

He's in on the rob.

[Mali Rubin]

He's in on the rob.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Like, he stopped to talk to Gaytop.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

At the gate. But I still think that exact moment.

[Amy Poehler]

Or that was a red herring.

[Joanna Robinson]

It could be. But, yeah. The fact that he, like, stopped and was like, I have tickets for the fight. But he's still. I mean, like, he might have just been flirting to get his way, but he was definitely flirting with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Did you freeze frame and try to see if you could tell any identifiable part of the robber?

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. And when.

[Amy Poehler]

Hard to tell. I was looking at whether he was white American. If he. I. I just couldn't tell anything. He was completely covered head to toe.

[Mali Rubin]

He's covered.

[Joanna Robinson]

Listening to the voice as well.

[Mali Rubin]

The other guy comes out, the driver, briefly, and we can't see the face, but I think Gaeta can because he's not wearing. He's not wearing.

[Joanna Robinson]

Saw that guy. We get a shot of him clocking that guy. If he goes to the fights on Friday. I feel like that guy's gonna be there.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Because he's quarantining in white Lotus. I mean, Mike White branching out.

[Joanna Robinson]

That's what he, like.

[Mali Rubin]

Wonderful.

[Joanna Robinson]

I. I'm trying. I'm trying, like, not to read too much about the season because, like, people give things away and interview.

[Amy Poehler]

I've read one thing, like, literally not one thing.

[Joanna Robinson]

I will say this is not, like, a detail, but Mike White is saying, like, he tried to push himself in directions that he had not done before. So a sports scene. I mean, we've heard a shootout, essentially, already, so it'd be crazy if they.

[Amy Poehler]

Had, like, a muay Thai tournament or something. Just, like, completely over the top.

[Mali Rubin]

We have an extra episode.

[Joanna Robinson]

Maybe that's what it is to the fights.

[Amy Poehler]

So how did the. The robbery. Yeah, this seemed too easy. I find it hard to believe. You just slide into the hotel and do it.

[Joanna Robinson]

Inside job if Valentin is.

[Amy Poehler]

But there's more security in the front. Like, everything about. Didn't Totally. Sit right with me. I feel like somebody in that mask, you're just immediately. There's three people.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Noticing that you can't get in the door. Like the woman at the front desk.

[Joanna Robinson]

Was like busy looking down at her monitor.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. It does seem like there should be people at the door. I agree with that.

[Amy Poehler]

No. Especially in Thailand you're gonna have like two security guards in the front and.

[Mali Rubin]

People are walking by during the actual robbery and nobody is paying any attention.

[Joanna Robinson]

Here's my follow up question, though. It's like Valentin, we feel like it's an inside job. And Valentin is part of that.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes.

[Joanna Robinson]

He's in Russian. He's handsome. He's in on it. Do you think Chloe's in on it? Because she's like in the dressing room.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, this is good.

[Joanna Robinson]

And I was just sort of like, is she part of this? Is she like.

[Amy Poehler]

That's why she gets nervous.

[Mali Rubin]

No one like her. No one like her in the world when it comes to Fairy Corner.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'll be in the shop in the.

[Amy Poehler]

So you think a person prostitute from the Dubai matchmaking site might have been in on a high scale robbery if.

[Joanna Robinson]

She and Valentin have like sort of a crime ring going on? She was eyeing Saxon in a way where she was like, cute. But he's also a mark, is he not? Yes, he would be an easy mark.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

So if she and Valentin have a little like, let's fleece. I mean, this seems like a little clumsy, a sort of daylight robbery with a gun and everything.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

But maybe they're getting bolder. I don't know.

[Mali Rubin]

Very interesting. I really like this.

[Amy Poehler]

I really like this.

[Mali Rubin]

It's a little too, like, don't shit where you eat. Because Chloe does seem to really like these restaurants and shops. So she's compromising her leisure time, I think. But I like this.

[Joanna Robinson]

She knows the bartender by name. Like, you know, she's like in it.

[Amy Poehler]

By the way, this did lead me to a nitpick though, and I don't want to go back to this.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

So Greg. Gary.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, no, Gary Mitchell, if you prefer.

[Amy Poehler]

Plays off this incredible white lotus heist of this fake marriage and sets this lady up for over a year, gets all her money, hides in Thailand next to another white lotus.

[Mali Rubin]

I know, it's.

[Amy Poehler]

That's a little weird.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

That's where you're gonna end up like, oh, nobody will be able to put these two together.

[Joanna Robinson]

He's like, I've had a taste of luxury. I've been to two white lotuses, I gotta collect them.

[Amy Poehler]

All maybe stayed near four seasons. I don't know, it just seemed a little dubious.

[Mali Rubin]

I did have that same thought. I think it's a really good note. I guess my counterpoint would be real. Like, no safer place than Hogwarts. No safer place than the Winterfell Crips. Like, no easier place to freely commit crime and live in sin than a white lotus. Not only have we now gotten can.

[Amy Poehler]

Even poop in a white lotus in a room.

[Mali Rubin]

We talked last episode about, like, okay, just a. Bodies, dead bodies, dead bodies, dead bodies. We now have multiples on the robbery front too. Remember in season one, Paula and Kai hit the.

[Joanna Robinson]

I still don't. I still don't think we know the crime rates of the four seasons. And so I feel like we wouldn't know. All right, but by season seven, I'll be with you. Yeah. If there's murder in the Alps.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes. Once we get our cold lotus kill.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Back to the rat lifts. The sisters fed up with Lockheed sex and they have another great dinner. Anytime the rat lifts are at dinner, I'm in for like 15 minutes. They don't need to cut away. I'm just in for all the comments.

[Mali Rubin]

It's unbelievable.

[Amy Poehler]

And Saxon says, you know what they say. Having sex in Thailand is like eating a box of chocolates. You never know which one's going to have nuts. And the mom laughs hysterically, thinks it's so funny. She's like, this is my guy, right?

[Joanna Robinson]

The funniest thing.

[Mali Rubin]

Vicky is quite proud of her.

[Joanna Robinson]

I raised it.

[Amy Poehler]

I mean, this is my life achievement right here. This idiot, she.

[Mali Rubin]

So she like, goes right into making a big speech because Piper, again is like, my family is gross, right? Calls, refers to her brother Saxon as a freak. Earlier in the water hammock scene when Lockie's like, so like. Like Saxon keeps talking about how hot you are. What the hell is wrong with my family? But then Vicki goes right into his speech about how they need each other. Right? But then what does she say specifically? Most people don't have good values. They're scammers. Then she starts to praise them. You're all gorgeous, you come for money, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, that powder keg of like, her.

[Joanna Robinson]

Husband'S the biggest scammer.

[Mali Rubin]

Exactly. The first episode ended with her them in bed. And she's like, everybody tells me what a great man you are.

[Joanna Robinson]

Such a great man.

[Mali Rubin]

Our guy Tim is really going through it. And nobody is going to take it worse than Victoria when she finds out that their life is a lie.

[Amy Poehler]

It Turns out five years later that it happened after she wakes up from the 90 pills she took.

[Joanna Robinson]

Do you think he would take his own life before, like, his family finds out? Because we get this, like, really. We get this really sad moment at the end. I mean, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Tim. He sucks. But where he's watching them all walk in and they're all happy and talking, and he's just sort of like. It's the exact opposite of that scene we got in episode one when he's standing, like, feeling like he has the biggest dick in the world, looking at what he's provided for his family. He doesn't assume this, but.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, that ending, it's not just here in the family, but they're talking about a tsunami, which I thought was notable.

[Mali Rubin]

Absolutely.

[Amy Poehler]

Tsunami just takes everything away.

[Mali Rubin]

What is it? The symbolism corner with William Simmons.

[Joanna Robinson]

I love that.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm sorry to be on Joe's corner.

[Joanna Robinson]

No, no, no. But should we also? I mean, do you think they would do a tsunami on the show?

[Amy Poehler]

You know, I thought about this. It was noted that they made a point of ending a show talking about a tsunami.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Maybe it's all setting up for the eventual cold lotus avalanche that you're predicting you build toward.

[Joanna Robinson]

Or Naomi wants to show it up.

[Amy Poehler]

Naomi wants his back holding onto the glass in the pool.

[Mali Rubin]

So you guys both love Victoria. She's your shared fave. What does it do for your.

[Amy Poehler]

Is that Parker Posey's character? I just call her Parker.

[Mali Rubin]

That's fine. That's fine. What does it do for your sense of Victoria to know that her brother who tormented her is called Uncle Babe?

[Amy Poehler]

And the one who used to dangle loogies over her nose, Uncle Babe?

[Joanna Robinson]

That sounds very. I don't know. Please don't email me if this is wrong. Southern to me, Babe is. Babe is like a southern name.

[Amy Poehler]

So she's from somewhere deep South.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Uncle Babe. She probably has a bow.

[Mali Rubin]

Uncle Babe and his loogies.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, I love a bow. Bow's a great name.

[Amy Poehler]

Angry dad keeps getting phone calls.

[Mali Rubin]

Yep.

[Amy Poehler]

Keeps having to leave the table. I mean, I gotta take this.

[Mali Rubin]

Can't get calling them on a burner. Joanna, whose voice was this?

[Joanna Robinson]

This is a recent Oscar winner, Ki Hui Kwan, who. Who won for Everything Everywhere all at Once. And what you pointed out. We were texting about this.

[Amy Poehler]

Are we positive that this is the voice?

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, that was amazing. Absolutely. And what you were. You were texting. You were pointing out this morning that last season, Laura Dern showed up as a voice only cameo on the phone, and she had also recently won an Oscar. So I wonder if Mike White's, like, just trolling the supporting actor category for a recent Oscar winner to do a phone cameo.

[Mali Rubin]

This is a great tradition.

[Joanna Robinson]

What I loved about this interaction, it seemed very obvious to me that these two actors were not talking to each other. There were weird, awkward pa. I just feel like they had them record it separately. There were some weird, awkward pauses inside of the episode.

[Amy Poehler]

I thought it was the weakest part of the episode, the performance on the phone. It just sounded like an SNL sketch.

[Joanna Robinson]

I think they're coming after me.

[Amy Poehler]

I think it was just Jason Isaac.

[Joanna Robinson]

Saying, I need a lawyer immediately.

[Amy Poehler]

Can we do this now? This is a classic. He's already kind of giving up on the Southern accent. There was just openly British sentences being said. Yeah, he does not sound Southern at all anymore. And then he would remember every once.

[Mali Rubin]

In a while elongating the draws to try to, like, stay in it, which is so funny. Best line of the episode for me was, and I only made $10 million.

[Amy Poehler]

Out of your to money out of the money laundering. Only made $10 million.

[Joanna Robinson]

Who heard that?

[Mali Rubin]

Hardly worth it. Gay talk. Heard the call, and we know everything. We know that he speaks English. That's confirmed. So he's on. He's hearing all of this, and he's like, he's tracking all of this.

[Joanna Robinson]

If you me on this, I'm going to kill you.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Only a couple other quick things. Double date with Greg. We get to this and that stuff, and we get Greg, Gary, and we learned that he met his lady at a matchmaking service in Dubai, but thought she was French, but she's actually from Quebec.

[Mali Rubin]

She's quite offended by this.

[Joanna Robinson]

That is offensive. She's like, it's not the same.

[Amy Poehler]

She's Canadian.

[Joanna Robinson]

She's not French.

[Amy Poehler]

She dumbass.

[Joanna Robinson]

Gary.

[Amy Poehler]

Come on, Gary.

[Joanna Robinson]

On top of the hug they share after the robbery and the prelude to the sex scene and all that sort of stuff like that. The looks that they share.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

The short hats Rick and Chelsea share at the table. That those looks you share with someone when you're with someone, you know, like someone really close to you.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, I'm in on their relationship.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. They did a good job with that. We get the musical performance from the matron.

[Mali Rubin]

Yep.

[Joanna Robinson]

Ruled. I thought it was pretty good.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

We get. We get the almost ending with Carrie Coon and Leslie bitching about Jacqueline. Highlights. She's so competitive. You think with all her succession Mellow out. She's a narcissist. The vanity. Did she sandblast her face or something? God, she had the face everyone wanted. Then they start slamming the boyfriend. I don't think they ever see each other. You know what they say about fronts. The bigger the front, the bigger the back. Never heard that one. Literally no one's ever said that before.

[Joanna Robinson]

Literally no one.

[Mali Rubin]

Great, Great look on Larry's face.

[Amy Poehler]

And I think the key thing about this is she knows they're talking about her and she just doesn't care.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. She's like, of course they would be jealous.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

She likes it that way.

[Amy Poehler]

Go ahead, ladies, have at me.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And then. And then we get a almost sex scene. And then. But the big thing. Goggins overhears the. The hotel owner.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

My husband's in Bangkok. He has recovering immediately to Scott.

[Mali Rubin]

Is he just gonna actually, like, tail her? Do we think he's gonna just be.

[Joanna Robinson]

Following all this episode gay talk that he's going to Bangkok? And then. Let's just take that again. So I don't say character's name instead of Bangkok. I feel like he's going to Bangkok. And then.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

What does that mean for Chelsea? All alone at the White Lotus.

[Amy Poehler]

So this is one of my season episode three previews. Could there be a romantic something? Could there be a drinking too much at the bar? Saxon stepping in.

[Joanna Robinson]

Not Saxon. Chelsea. Anyone but Saxon.

[Amy Poehler]

This is Mike White. He's going to make us uncomfortable. He is sucked us in with Chelsea and she has to make a bad decision. With the next two episodes, I think.

[Mali Rubin]

I prepared for Saxon to have sex with literally anyone in the show this season, including his own family members other than Chelsea.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Vicki would love to be on the table to her son.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yes.

[Mali Rubin]

Would love to. She loves him.

[Amy Poehler]

They seem like they're getting along, but he's going to Bangkok, which means he.

[Mali Rubin]

Was also kind of.

[Amy Poehler]

We get to go to Bangkok.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. That's going to be fun with.

[Amy Poehler]

With Goggins.

[Mali Rubin]

I can't wait.

[Joanna Robinson]

Maybe that's part of what Mike White is talking about. I'm leaving the resort. We're going to an actual road trip.

[Mali Rubin]

Not just like a. Yeah, a little ride at the restaurant. He did seem kind of like. I thought this was also very charming. Hurt when she kept saying how old he was. She's like, I'm young and fun, and you're old and grouchy. And he was like, dang, you lose your hair.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

He was like, fuck this.

[Amy Poehler]

But so the big things we learned his dad's dead, but we don't know if he's dead. There's a money laundering thing that our guy, who can't decide what accent he's going to use, made $10 million in his career. And people know and he's about to be. Really?

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

There's some weird robbery.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

That we don't know the mechanics behind it or who is involved. And if that's a bigger ring going on, which is another thing he loves. And then something's going to happen with Lockie that's not going to be great.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

There's a curiosity with him that is gonna manifest itself at some point during the season. It really is.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. I feel like sometimes that character, though, like Quinn in season one, is the one who ends up actually having a positive experience, like learning something about themselves that's meaningful and actually ending up in a better place.

[Amy Poehler]

His iPad in the water. And he really rallied back.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. Like tried to jack it on the beach. Couldn't. Lost his electronics. And found out communing with nature instead of beauty. Beautiful.

[Joanna Robinson]

On the.

[Mali Rubin]

So the crime ring front, like, where are we on Monkey corner? Because we did get a monkey call out. That scared the shit out of me. I thought it was a monkey. When Laurie.

[Joanna Robinson]

There's also constant ominous shots of monkey statues.

[Amy Poehler]

Kind of like. Well, in actual monkeys kind of crawling towards something. Like they're.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. It did make me think the fact that there's this, like, perhaps you're on.

[Joanna Robinson]

The monkey theory now. Am I in on Joanna's monkey?

[Mali Rubin]

How did this happen? I don't understand. Because if people. If there are plants inside the hotel and people are just waiting to try things, it does seem like the actual natural circumstances there, whether it's the poisonous seed pods or the monkeys, like, could really actually come into play. But, you know, we all spent all of season two wondering, like, literally what was gonna happen with the head statues. And of course, it was more thematic.

[Joanna Robinson]

Not a symbol.

[Amy Poehler]

Wait, we gotta take a break.

[Joanna Robinson]

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[Mali Rubin]

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[Amy Poehler]

We're back what are we gonna say, Joe?

[Joanna Robinson]

I was gonna say can we talk about Mook and Gaytok?

[Mali Rubin]

They need a spinoff. They are so spinoff.

[Amy Poehler]

I love Mook and I feel like something horrible is gonna happen to her now.

[Mali Rubin]

I won't allow it. I still won't allow it. No.

[Joanna Robinson]

They must be saved. I'm worried about him. His hero complex.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm worried about Gaytok is almost a lock to be dead by episode seven.

[Mali Rubin]

Right?

[Amy Poehler]

Just lock it down.

[Mali Rubin]

I think he's gonna be pulled into a bad decision to try to impress her. That's what I think. Because she's like drawn to the Hollander security guys. They're tough, they make money, they get to go on adventures, they travel, they see the world. And he's like, can you have lunch with me? My mom cooked us a meal and it's so sweet. Even though it is super. It was heart meltingly sweet. And even though like.

[Joanna Robinson]

And I loved her response too because she's just like, we don't. We never been on a date. You can't love. What are you talking about? Right.

[Mali Rubin]

And also the list of things that they share in common. These ties that buy in them, the fact that they're from the same place. It's like that's not. Not sexy and fun. Right. But when he's hurt, she's worried about him. The way that she like came to check on him was just so sweet and he couldn't believe it. It was clearly the best thing that had happened in his life that the person he loves cared about him and wanted to make sure he was okay. I was like, that was when I got emotional during the episode. It was so sweet.

[Joanna Robinson]

So you're like he's gonna put himself in danger again just to get another hit of that Mook concern.

[Mali Rubin]

Or just like.

[Amy Poehler]

So during the Muay Thai tournament somebody's gonna be like, hey, can you hold this cash? I just won 5,000. Like one of those kind of moments. I'm concerned him either holding ca somebody.

[Mali Rubin]

Or he's heard all the stuff that Tim has said.

[Joanna Robinson]

It's.

[Mali Rubin]

He has incriminating intel. What if he tries to use it to get money out of him?

[Joanna Robinson]

Very worried about. I don't think he's going to try to. I don't that. That seems like a.

[Amy Poehler]

Did Tim see gay talk listening to him?

[Mali Rubin]

I think he probably ignorantly and wrongly assumes that he doesn't understand him.

[Joanna Robinson]

I don't think he registered the second time. I think he locked eyes with him the first time though.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. I mean he like you noted, he just flat out hear some threatened to commit murder. So that's worrying. But yeah, Mook and Gaytok are the best.

[Amy Poehler]

All right, let's. Do you want to do predictions? What other corners do you have before we go to predictions?

[Joanna Robinson]

No other corners. I just want to shout out one other person that is a delight to me every time, which is Fabian, the manager, who, like, is singing along all the words while his boss is singing.

[Mali Rubin]

He's been writing songs, Joe. He's been learning to play the piano.

[Joanna Robinson]

When they're like, you should perform, he's like, oh, I. I'm the boss. I love him.

[Mali Rubin]

It feels very intentional to me after Armand and Valentina that the manager of the hotel is clearly not the main character of the hotel staff this time. He is more of our, like, kind of comic relief side figure.

[Joanna Robinson]

And he takes things so literally and.

[Mali Rubin]

So gay talk are the central act and of course, the prime ship of the show. And Belinda.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, Belinda and Pornche.

[Mali Rubin]

Well, we got those two need to.

[Joanna Robinson]

Fuck Belinda and Pornche. Oh, my God.

[Amy Poehler]

We should point out that we didn't talk about Belinda for the first 50 minutes of this podcast because she was the least interesting plot by far.

[Joanna Robinson]

They haven't figured out what to do with it yet, guys.

[Mali Rubin]

So she saw it.

[Amy Poehler]

Greg, Greg, Gary.

[Mali Rubin]

Let's go with Michael.

[Joanna Robinson]

Greg, Gary, Greg.

[Amy Poehler]

She saw Mitchell. She saw Pierre.

[Mali Rubin]

So did it strike you guys that she was like, I know him from somewhere, but I can't actually place it?

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, she can't place it.

[Amy Poehler]

It almost seemed like she was thinking that, no, that can't be him. It was like that was the conclusion. So they're gonna have to interact again.

[Joanna Robinson]

He looks familiar, but I can't remember where I know him from.

[Mali Rubin]

It's gonna be powerful when it clicks into place, I think.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, it was disappointing because I thought that was going to be the big episode too. Oh, boy. Oh, oh. But maybe they're saying we're rolling it out.

[Joanna Robinson]

Got six more episodes to go, guys.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Gary, what have you been up to? Yeah, this and that. Doing stuff.

[Joanna Robinson]

A lot of that. Going around, hanging out.

[Amy Poehler]

All right, what do you got for theories, Boy?

[Joanna Robinson]

I mean, I'm delighted to welcome all to Monkey Corner. It's, like, thrilling to me. It's great.

[Amy Poehler]

Great to be here. Love monkeys.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm really into the crime ring idea. Like, there's a crime ring at the hotel. And Hot mess Express. It's Vicky. Like, Vicky not making it out feels likely to me. What do you think?

[Amy Poehler]

Do they do that a season After Hot Mess Express, Jennifer Coolidge doesn't make it out.

[Joanna Robinson]

But Armand is also Hot Mess Express. But you're right, maybe it's too close to Jennifer Coolidge. Maybe we need someone to like devolve into Hot Mess Express. Or maybe it's someone who's got it all together this time.

[Amy Poehler]

That's my biggest 180 from episode one. Episode two. I wasn't positive the Parker Posey character was working for me.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, I know, but you like that.

[Amy Poehler]

And then in the second one I was like, I totally get it. This is fucking amazing.

[Joanna Robinson]

The way that her eyes are just like squinted the whole time because she's just blasted.

[Amy Poehler]

The way she handled The Leslie Bibbs 10 years ago. Just every the way she was laughing at Saxon Saxton.

[Joanna Robinson]

Who's your number one? I'm worried about you.

[Mali Rubin]

Gay talk.

[Joanna Robinson]

Gay talk.

[Mali Rubin]

I'm incredibly concerned.

[Amy Poehler]

My number one's Chelsea.

[Mali Rubin]

No, I think Chelsea. I just can't maybe bear to consider.

[Joanna Robinson]

I can't bear to consider Gaytar.

[Mali Rubin]

Me neither. But it just feels like.

[Joanna Robinson]

Let's go for Valentin.

[Mali Rubin]

I don't necessarily think he's gonna die, but I wonder if he's gonna set something in motion that then can't be contained. Like, I feel like he's gonna get swept up in this somehow. Certainly I. The Ratliffs all feel like they might just implode.

[Amy Poehler]

My friend Dave, who's one of the EPs of the show, who. I haven't asked him for any information at all, but I did ask him if Amy Lou if she's cool. And he said she's the fucking best.

[Mali Rubin]

She seems awesome.

[Amy Poehler]

That was the scattering point. She seems great. I'm interested to see what happens with her the next five years because she's definitely got something.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, I have a question about the triangle of trust.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, Trust triangle.

[Joanna Robinson]

I'm so sorry. The Jacoby Trust.

[Amy Poehler]

Tm Dave Jacoby. The trust triangle.

[Joanna Robinson]

The DJ tt. Do you feel like they. That this is going to come to a head and they're going to like actively yell at each other? Wild at each other. Or is it always.

[Amy Poehler]

It's going to be a drunk overhearing thing.

[Joanna Robinson]

That's going to be a drunk.

[Amy Poehler]

That's going to. By the way, the king of the trust triangle. Fantasy and Chris. Chris Ryan.

[Joanna Robinson]

Like that's.

[Amy Poehler]

You lose, you feed the third with them. No matter who the third is, they lose. What if the third doesn't matter if it's Zach Baron?

[Mali Rubin]

I was just going to say one.

[Joanna Robinson]

Of the third is Zach Baron.

[Amy Poehler]

What about Fantasy And Chris. Chris, the trust triangle. You lose. You tell Chris something he's gonna tell Sean. You tell Sean something, he's telling Chris. You just have to know.

[Mali Rubin]

Interesting.

[Joanna Robinson]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. It's a trust triangle in action.

[Mali Rubin]

I do think Greenwald and Chris have.

[Joanna Robinson]

A Andy and Chris.

[Amy Poehler]

I think fantasy still trumps it. This big ringer game show, trust triangle have people guessing who is the triangle.

[Mali Rubin]

Wonderful. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

What could go wrong?

[Joanna Robinson]

People wouldn't get mad at all. This is fine. This is a fine subject to talk about it. How about you? Who's your.

[Mali Rubin]

Who are you most worried about?

[Amy Poehler]

Chelsea.

[Joanna Robinson]

Chelsea.

[Amy Poehler]

Chelsea. Easily. And I think Mook. I think Mook is going to make a bad decision with Saxon. I think that. I think that's just a Mike White move. It's just. I'm gonna. You don't like this guy and you like this person. I'm gonna do this.

[Mali Rubin]

So do we think the spray of gunfire is this crime ring rather than one of the guests?

[Joanna Robinson]

I mean.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Like, we've seen a gun now. So, like, the Hollinger Guards could be involved. Members of the crime ring could be involved.

[Mali Rubin]

The monkeys, obviously.

[Joanna Robinson]

The monkeys obviously get a hold of the guns.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. The monkeys having ingested the poison seeds of the fire.

[Joanna Robinson]

I can see Rick having a gun, but Rick already said he's too nervous to travel with weed, so I don't think he traveled with a gun.

[Amy Poehler]

Smart move. He saw Broke Down Palace.

[Mali Rubin]

Exactly.

[Joanna Robinson]

I was gonna.

[Mali Rubin]

I wrote that in my notes.

[Joanna Robinson]

I was like, he's also a fan of Broke Down Palace.

[Amy Poehler]

He knows.

[Joanna Robinson]

But Claire Dance.

[Mali Rubin]

Take me.

[Amy Poehler]

Take me.

[Joanna Robinson]

But he could procure a gun, perhaps.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, so the big thing that's gonna happen for the show from a mixing things up standpoint is when we go to Bangkok. That's gonna open two things. Bangkok. And then if they actually take a talk to the fight or whatever, the sporting event, wherever we're going on Friday.

[Joanna Robinson]

Night, he said it. That it's on Friday, which is within our week. So I feel like we're going. Right.

[Mali Rubin]

Right. What day of the week would a vacation at the White Lotus start?

[Joanna Robinson]

Sunday.

[Mali Rubin]

Sunday To Sunday.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I always thought. I mean, it could be any day. It doesn't matter. They could have showed up on, like, a Thursday. Yeah. So Bangkok, when we go there, that also gives us a chance to maybe have some new characters, too. Couple new ones.

[Mali Rubin]

Yes. Right. You're. I think you're right. That we got. Let's see, episode three or four. We got to get some new people in the mix for sure.

[Amy Poehler]

I'M excited to go to Bangkok.

[Mali Rubin]

Me too. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

I've enjoyed my time in Thailand. It seems great. I'll never go, but it seems awesome.

[Joanna Robinson]

A real 180 on your. On your take. Like Thailand. I'll never go there.

[Amy Poehler]

Even Rick, but I'm really enjoying being there vicariously.

[Mali Rubin]

Only took Rick one day to opt in. He was like, I'm not gonna eat anything. Enjoying all of his meals the second day says he's not gonna go to his stress management session. Forced me to sign up for another one. I won't go again. Yes, he will.

[Joanna Robinson]

Chelsea managing him where she's like, oh, we already signed up. We're gonna have to pay anyway. I guess you gotta go.

[Amy Poehler]

By the way, my wife does that too. It's an incredible move.

[Joanna Robinson]

Great move. Great move.

[Amy Poehler]

You just lock it down. You can't get out of it.

[Mali Rubin]

You would like this place. You're Mr. Like. I'm on a juice cleanse. I did a cold plunge.

[Amy Poehler]

Only twice that it gave me the coconut balls, whatever that one was. And then the. When Belinda had her feet in that cool thing and I was like, all right, now I'm starting to think about massage.

[Joanna Robinson]

Oh, stars. When she got her neck.

[Mali Rubin]

Hopefully not for the last time.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Any more theories before we wrap it up?

[Mali Rubin]

Nope.

[Amy Poehler]

Mal.

[Mali Rubin]

I don't think so. I think we've talked about, like, what seems ominous or promising for. For all of our faves here.

[Amy Poehler]

So. MVP of. MVP of the first episode. We had Saxon.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, the two of us did. I don't know if Joe did.

[Amy Poehler]

You're not.

[Joanna Robinson]

But who. Who was your MVP of the first episode?

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

Chelsea maybe Chelsea. I really like her a lot.

[Amy Poehler]

Episode two, we're all going with Victoria. Yeah.

[Joanna Robinson]

It's Parker, Rosie, or who do you want to say?

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, I, I. If I could pick a duo, I would pick Rick and Chelsea. Or like a unit. I would pick Rick and Chelsea. If I had to pick one person, I would pick Victoria.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah. I'm expecting huge things out of. Out of Laurie in episode three. It's huge things. Feels like it's going to be a.

[Joanna Robinson]

You don't bring Carrie Coon to Thailand to not let her do.

[Mali Rubin]

I feel like it has.

[Amy Poehler]

What's your. What's your Apex Cary Coon moment?

[Joanna Robinson]

Leftovers, Crying in the Hotel and Leftovers Season two. Yeah. How about you?

[Amy Poehler]

I. She's always. It's always one of those where I like her. Every time she pops into anything I'm watching.

[Mali Rubin]

She's perfect.

[Amy Poehler]

It's probably about as high of an approval rating, as I've had for an actor or actress. There's just certain people, you're like, oh, this will be good.

[Mali Rubin]

She's always amazing. What if he had just said, like, proxima Midnight.

[Joanna Robinson]

Of course. His favorite of Thanos's children. She's in a Marvel movie. It's the worst thing I gotta figure.

[Amy Poehler]

I am to be right now. Can you guys fill time for two seconds?

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, yeah. There's Fargo. She's great on Fargo.

[Mali Rubin]

She is great on Fargo.

[Joanna Robinson]

You're a huge Gilded Age fan.

[Mali Rubin]

Oh, I mean, I love the Gilded Age. And she on the Gilded Age is married to one of the great recent, like, my life.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah. But she like. Do they give Carrie coon enough to do on the Gilded Age?

[Mali Rubin]

Let me give you. Let me try to give you the log. The log line for her character. They're the new money family, right. And they come in and she is like, I will not be made to feel less than by the old money. I will win my stake as the leader of the social circle by opening a new opera house.

[Joanna Robinson]

This is the opera box drama that I heard so much about.

[Mali Rubin]

It is an entire. I mean, it's. It's really the entire.

[Joanna Robinson]

Okay. And that was delightful. And your face telling me it's delightful. Do they give Carrie coon enough to do in this?

[Mali Rubin]

She. She's like the.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, she is a slow burn. Yeah, she's.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah, she's. She's great. She's one of her lead characters.

[Amy Poehler]

Gone Girl. I loved her in Gone Girl. She was great in Gone Girl.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yeah, she is like sister, sister.

[Mali Rubin]

This great and gone Girl.

[Amy Poehler]

No, that's a slow burn. They're going to. She. I think she cooks more than anyone else in the show. Like, halfway through, they. They're waiting for her.

[Mali Rubin]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

This one, she was just kind of drunk and happy and sizing people up and waiting to see if she could, I did think, pull Leslie Bib over to her side a little bit.

[Joanna Robinson]

The gossip sesh was so good. She did a full body sort of like. I know, like, excited to talk about shit talker friend. They all hate each other. It's great.

[Amy Poehler]

I pre cap you and Mahoney on. On Wednesday.

[Joanna Robinson]

Yep.

[Amy Poehler]

After episode two. Looking ahead to episode three. And then we will be back.

[Mali Rubin]

Can't wait.

[Amy Poehler]

Sunday night yet again.

[Mali Rubin]

It's been absolutely.

[Amy Poehler]

The crew, as always. Kai and Justin, everybody back there.

[Mali Rubin]

Kai in LA la.

[Joanna Robinson]

Kai.

[Amy Poehler]

Kai La.

[Mali Rubin]

Kai.

[Amy Poehler]

Unbelievable.

[Mali Rubin]

What a thrill.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you, ladies. Good to see you.

[Mali Rubin]

Thank you.