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Rob Mahoney
Hello and welcome to the Prestige TV podcast. I am Rob Mahoney.
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Joanna Robinson
I'm Joanna Robinson.
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Rob Mahoney
And we are here to Talk about episode 6 and episode 7 of your friends and Neighbors, a show that, that I would say, Joe, is becoming presumed innocent before our very eyes. How are you feeling about that?
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Joanna Robinson
Wow, I hadn't thought of it that way. I made, I made excellent peace with this television show in the last two weeks. We didn't record last week because you were undergoing minor surgery.
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Rob Mahoney
Yes. As excuses go to the hospital, you.
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Joanna Robinson
Know, no big as excuses go, it's a pretty good one. So we're doing a double a doubleheader this week and I've kind of just settled into this like it's your friends are assholes, like everyone's an asshole. And I've just kind of learned to let it go. And I basically have two characters I'm rooting for. Happy to share with you who they are and everyone else, I'm giddily watching them careen towards disaster.
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Rob Mahoney
So, you know, let's put a pin in that conversation. I do want to prompt you for those favorites, those people you're actually cheering for, but really under the guise of a broader likability, power rankings of the very limited group of people who actually do seem kind of likable on the show at this point.
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Joanna Robinson
Okay, great.
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Rob Mahoney
I have a, I have honestly some admiration for the fact that your friends and neighbors is dedicated to making all of these people feel like assholes at various points in the show, to undermining them at every turn, to like the fits and starts of maybe some kind of progress or revelation. But then Also, they do this other shitty thing on the side. It's like, who can you really trust in this world? I honestly don't know.
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Joanna Robinson
It's a great question. How are you feeling about returning to the Presumed Innocent waters?
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Rob Mahoney
You know what I'm feeling good about the murder mystery of it all. You know, of turning our little petty theft dramedy into a murder mystery dramedy. I'm enjoying the contours of that. I don't know where it's going to go. I don't know if they're going to land the plane. Maybe we get into a courtroom and everything goes to absolute shit from an execution standpoint. I don't know. But I. But I love this area, so who am I to be mad about it?
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Joanna Robinson
Is Peter Sarsgaard available for a potential crossover? If so. Or let's go.
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Rob Mahoney
What is the Crab Rangoon budget? That's what I want to know.
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Joanna Robinson
Bring the bolo tie. And I am ready to go.
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Rob Mahoney
Absolutely. But we did get an email I wanted to address up top. In light of that, Joe from a different Joe Joseph, who emailed us wondering if we would be interested in a version of this show in which there's no crime, if it's just kind of the interpersonal conceit of your friends and neighbors. But maybe instead of the petty theft, there's some other means to make money. Maybe instead of the now dead body, there's just some, like, other big thing that the neighborhood has to deal with. Would you be interested in a show like that based on this group of characters, but not the bigger existential threats?
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Joanna Robinson
I don't know. I genuinely don't know how to answer that because there's. I have so many questions about decisions made in the making of the show. The way that the story keeps oozing out into various corners of people's lives in a way that, like, I feel like I can't track everything very well. And so would that feel better without the framework of the smash and grab or the murder mystery? I don't think so. I think we need that gimmick in order to sort of contain it as best possible into this neighborhood. Except we're off to Princeton, or we're here there, and we're doing other things also at the same time. What do you think, Rob?
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Rob Mahoney
I'm with you. I think it would feel too much like that ooze you're describing. Just a little bit of everything going in every direction at once. There's so many characters, there's so many plots. Having something to tether us. And honestly, something for these characters to talk about that's really dramatic, I think serves a lot of these different angles pretty well. Just even everyone being able sit around and wonder, like, who do you think killed Paul? Do you think Sam did this? Like, just talking amongst themselves about the events in their neighborhood feels like. Very true in a gossipy way, but very convenient in a structural way.
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Joanna Robinson
Yeah. P.S. sam definitely did it.
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Rob Mahoney
We're going to come back to that, too, I would say the general structure of these first two episodes, which is convenient not just because it's two episodes, but first, establishing really firmly what Coop still has to lose, even at a time in his life where he's sort of in this tailspin. You know, him going off on this field trip with Mel and his family really brings a lot home for him and I think for us watching him. And then the second part of this is like turning up the heat on the wrong place, wrong time. Elements of this story, specifically with Coop, you know, bumping into a dead body and then having to clean up after himself. And I think making the stakes feel so much urgent for all these characters, but for all of that to matter, like, we have to buy the first part. Like, we have to buy the time warp, the time machine, if you'll borrow the other John Hamm ism. I mean, look, it takes us to a place we ache to go again. Joe, I don't know what to tell you. I did think that getting to spend time with a different version of Mel and Coop was very instructive. I enjoyed that quality time. But I'm curious how it hit you seeing them in a different element and getting to explore their relationship, or what's left of it, in a totally different way.
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Joanna Robinson
It was so funny watching that episode, the. The College of Two, Princeton, where both kids are there because Hunter is suspended, so he has to come along too. And they conveniently shuffle the kids off, you know, very quickly, very quickly. And so then it just becomes, let's relive our glory days in Princeton. Really interesting tour of all these. Sort of like, pretty. Princeton. I was like, who in the writers room went to Princeton? Who was like, I looked it up. I was like, it's not John. It's not John Ham. It's not Amanda pd. It's not the job. Like, I haven't figured it out yet. Who went. But. But they're like, we gotta have a fat sandwich. Oh, we gotta go to Thomas Sweets. You know, blah, blah. I was annoyed. This is actually the episode that really like, allowed Me to let go of liking. Trying to like anyone. Because Malik tearing through New Jersey on a. On a drunken bender. On a Jaeger bender. As adults, like, in their 40s, late 40s, early 50s, you don't recover from that. Like, you don't recover from a. A day drink, bing. Jaeger binge in a way that doesn't involve, like, vomiting or a serious nap. So, like, they. They're ostensibly responsible for their kids, but, like, go do this. Commit a petty crime. Chew out a small business owner when he's just trying to, like, you know, regain his merchandise. Break into a church. I don't really care, but, like, break into a church, you know? And so they're like. They're acting like kids. And in a different show, in a different movie, there's a way. We got an interesting email from our listener Michael, about this idea of the midlife crisis. There's, like, a different version of this story where I'm just sort of like, I understand the compulsion to try to reclaim your youth, Try to revisit who you were when you went to Princeton together, when you fell in love together. There's that great line from the opening montage of the first episode when Coop is like, you know, basically, the sex he had with Mel when they were young and in love is, like, the best sex you'll ever have in your entire life. Right. Like, so trying to, like, get back to that makes sense to me, but I was just like, these guys are.
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Rob Mahoney
They're not great.
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Joanna Robinson
I don't like them. And that's okay. All right. I'm not supposed to. So that's sort of where I sa. At the end of the day with a Princeton trip. And I hated the speech that Coop gave in the car on the way there. I'm happy to talk about that now or later, if you want to.
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Rob Mahoney
Yeah. I mean, Coop is going on quite a journey in a lot of respects, I think, especially with Tori, who he really, like, chews out in the car. Like, he loses his cool on her in a way that's just, like, very hard to come back from. And I think the show tries to sort of land the plane.
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Joanna Robinson
Yeah.
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Rob Mahoney
In the sense of, like, okay, they have their reconciliation moment at the end of this trip where they're kind of coming together, and she gives him the sage advice about how, you know, like, things aren't always broken and can be undone. It's a long way to go for those two in a couple of days after, like, I think he's pretty, like, pretty much of a jackass. To her.
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Joanna Robinson
Can I? Okay. I wrote down the speech, so I would like to share it with you.
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Rob Mahoney
You want to orate it?
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Joanna Robinson
This is just. I'm. I'm not going to deliver it the way that Jon handed, which is, like, with all the energy of someone, a man who is about to punch a hole in a wall. Ye. I was just like, this was. The tone of this was so violent. I was so confused. And then the speech goes like this. I know what it feels like to have. About. What do you know about love, dad?
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Rob Mahoney
Right.
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Joanna Robinson
I know what it feels like to have it. I know how it tears you apart when you lose it. This may sound stupid to you, but sometimes you learn more about love by losing it than by having it in the first place. I know what it's like to see the little girl who used to hold my hand every day grow up and roll her eyes at me and speak to me with such contempt that it makes it hard for me to breathe. This was just. You know, we were talking earlier this season about the idea of, like, is the. Are the speeches in the show or is the dialogue in the show Sorkin or bad Sorkin? And, like, this is such bad Sorkin. Because the thing that Sorkin does is he gives his characters. I mean, I'm not. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. You're a better Sorkin scholar than I am. But, like, he gives his character speeches that no actual human would ever be capable of speaking. Right. It's hyper unrealistic sort of way of orating. And when it comes out of the mouth of a president or when it comes out of, like, someone who writes a speech, like Josh Lyman, you know, like. Like that makes sense to me. And then it could come. When it comes out of the mouth of a dad in a car who's just chewing on his daughter, I'm like, this is. What is. What is this? And the tone was so startling to me. Like, this sentiment that. That any parent has probably felt this idea of, like, my teenager is pulling away and I feel frustrated and heartbroken and where is this little that once loved me unconditionally? Why are there conditions now in this love? Like, all that's interesting to me, but, like, again, I'm just like, okay, Coops an asshole. A bad dad of a violent seeming man. Like, I just. I felt undone by this particular exchange.
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Rob Mahoney
I think especially because Tori's complaints to me are pretty valid. Like, her, from her perspective, this idea that her dad, like, walked out on their family has not Been showing up since because he literally hasn't. He's been off, like, stealing shit around town. Like, it's understandable that she would feel a little like put out by this entire experience, emotionally and otherwise. And that Coop's response to that is, oh, wait, let me tell you about me. Let me tell you about my anguish in this moment. It's like, it's not. Like, it's not. There are no glowing marks for Coop in any of this, really. Like, these are, as we said, like two episodes that I think are showcasing some of these characters lesser qualities or more annoying qualities or more childish qualities. And those are all fair game as far as characterization goes. Once we get to the Coop and Mel portion of the program, I do find myself just as you described. Like, I'm actively like, disliking both of these people individually, but I do kind of like who they are to each other in a way. Like, they have undeniable chemistry. Oh, yes, right. Jon Hamm and Amanda Pete have great chemistry. These two characters, like the baked in intimacy that they have together feels real and earned. And I think has been justified by the script, like, has been sold to us by the show. I also think, like, as you know, the closer we get to the spiciness in the George Washington Suite, like, this is a show that I think wants to take a moment to revel in its sexuality in a way that some other, like, especially domestic sorts of dramedies don't. And maybe this is another area where it shares a lot in common with Presumed Innocent. Like, am I Crazy Joe? Or is Apple TV getting like a little racier overall? Like, they're kind of chasing after these sorts of moments.
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Joanna Robinson
I really agree. We had this conversation about Presumed Innocent and I was thinking the exact same thing, actually. Actually later in the sort of Ali Bruce sex scene where I was just sort of like. I think either previous Apple shows or some of the other shows we watch would cut away and we understand what happens in the George Washington Suite or we understand what happened with Allie and Bruce. We don't need to see it. But this show and Presumed Innocent were like, we're gonna show it to you. Presumed Innocent. Even to an even, like, of course, greater degree. But yeah, I was. I was really intrigued by that. Can I ask you a. We broke into a church based question, please. Okay. I saw. I watched this episode coincidentally, the same day I saw an Instagram reel from a woman who was Catholic and was talking about the new Pope and she was talking about her favorite dinner party bit, was asking people If. And again, this is from a Catholic. I'm not a Catholic, but this from a Catholic. If you're. If Jesus's communion is bread and wine, what would you want your communion to be? Like? How would people celebrate you?
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Rob Mahoney
Wow.
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Joanna Robinson
With a bev and a little snack. You know, this. And then I watched Coop and Mel dip communion wafers in like a purloin jam. Yeah, exactly. For me, it's a Parmesan goldfish cracker and a shot of tequila. That's like. That's my communion.
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Rob Mahoney
That's quite a chaser, I gotta say.
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Joanna Robinson
Do you have one that comes to mind or should I come back to you? Rob, what do you think?
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Rob Mahoney
There's zero question on the blood of Rob. And it's Diet Coke. And that's just anatomically true. Like, I'm. I am just more Diet Coke than man at this point. So that's my reality.
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Joanna Robinson
Yeah, food.
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Rob Mahoney
You know, food wise, I think we could, we could get into difficult territory. I'm torn between one of two. Two of my greatest vices, personally. Greatest snack vices. One, buttered popcorn. Very, very. Like I walk into a movie theater, I'm a fucking goner. You've witnessed this.
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Joanna Robinson
I've seen this. Yeah.
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Rob Mahoney
It's a tough scene. The other is any sort of like tortilla chip and dip situation. So I think, you know, depending on the sect of which way you would like to worship me after my death, I think we can, you know, reasonable people can disagree.
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Joanna Robinson
I feel, I kind of feel like this is pop culture Rob, like TV movie Rob is the butter popcorn sect. And then, and then maybe basketball Rob.
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Rob Mahoney
Oh, this is true.
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Joanna Robinson
Is the chip and dip scrounging out of the pantry? Yeah. If I have to go for a non alcoholic version, it's. It's a Topo Chico, for sure.
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Rob Mahoney
Are you straight? Are you lime? Are you grapefruit? What's your preference?
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Joanna Robinson
Straight. Just straight up. Topo Chico.
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Rob Mahoney
Topo Chico. Please sponsor this podcast.
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Joanna Robinson
Oh, yeah, yeah, no problem.
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Rob Mahoney
No, this, this one I'm willing to give for free. It was, you know, a revelation to me as a lapsed Catholic. The communion wafer, individually wrapped. It just had never occurred to me that in a, you know, more germ conscious or post Covid world that that would be a thing. But I guess it makes sense that it would be a thing.
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Joanna Robinson
Um, seems wasteful, but.
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Rob Mahoney
Sure, it does seem quite wasteful. Quite, quite inconvenient. But look, we're here for the sacrament. We're here for, you know, to, to dip these communion wafers. Into jam. We're also there for like some honest to goodness reconciliation between Mel and Coop, who, like, he finally has the chance to tell her another human being that he lost his job by reasons that were not his own. They become a little closer in the process. They make out a bit in the process. I want to give us like a special salute to Amanda, Pete's confused hand as she extends it. As they start making out, trying to do the mental gymnastics of like, am I doing this?
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Joanna Robinson
Are we doing this?
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Rob Mahoney
Yes, we're doing this. Great physical performance from both of them. I thought.
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Joanna Robinson
No. And that, that like slide over and beginning of the makeout session, like the whole thing. To your point, they have come chemistry again. I assert that they would be napping at this point after all the jaegers they had. But like, listen, in a world where they're still going, you know, this is a very. Some very smooth stuff from Coop and you know, his sexual proclivities are about to bite him in the ass in the next episode. So here we go.
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Rob Mahoney
They're just biting him everywhere, it seems, you know, like really the. The pains of having four women interested in you throughout this season are really coming home to Ro, you know, like every. Everything is really coming for Coop at the end of this episode, as you said. Realistically, Mel should be more in Tory state, vomiting on the side of the road, but she seems totally fine. The family goes out to dinner. Ultimately, Coop gets jumped by, I would say the most terrifying people of all, which are art world henchmen, if I'm getting this correct. Is that who we should believe these.
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Joanna Robinson
Guys to be a million percent? Absolutely.
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Rob Mahoney
Like, I have no words. I'm gonna be honest with you. This part of the plot is really going off the rails. I also have no idea if we're expected to see Christian Thomasin again after this point. Is this like, the business is closed, Coop got his ass kicked, we're moving on. Or do you expect like the art world element of the story to sort of linger on your friends and neighbors?
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Joanna Robinson
Well, we see him in the next episode in the dream sequence doing, I.
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Rob Mahoney
Mean, licking some pancakes, but. But I guess that would be a hint that he's in the real world.
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Joanna Robinson
Yeah, I think it's not done. That's. That's what I would guess also. And I'm gonna say this as a lover of suspense and cliffhangers and surprise and all of that I need after Daredevil earlier this year and this. This episode that ends with Barney going over a car onto the concrete, I Need characters who stop landing on their necks at a cracking sound and then surviving and being fine.
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Rob Mahoney
Totally fine.
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Joanna Robinson
When he. When he hit the ground on his neck and I heard the crack, I was like, well, Barney's dead, I guess. I was like, that's weird. That guy's an executive producer. I don't think that character's done right. And then I was like, no, he's probably fine, but really, please stop. Like, stunt people of the world, please insist on doing a shoulder roll of some kind and not, like, going down on your neck, because it's very confusing to me. But, yeah, Barney. Barney takes a header into the concrete.
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Rob Mahoney
He does. And also, writers of the world, if you're going to include a line about how Barney is picking his teeth out of the pavement, that guy's got to be missing some teeth. I don't know what to tell you. Like, we got to see him with missing teeth. We got to see him more with a couple of bruises, being fed soup. I actually do like the Coop and Barney scenes. The few of them that we get in these episodes. Like Barney finally calling Coop out on his bullshit and the fact that he has been trying to extend invitations, as many characters have. Tell me what the fuck is going on. Be honest with me about what is going on. And Coop just keeps burying it and lying about it and hiding his big stack of money and pretending that it's no one else's concern. But I'm glad Barney gets at least to tell him off a little bit and, yeah, stand up for himself within that relationship.
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Joanna Robinson
Very satisfying. And for Coop to be like, where is this coming from? You know, like, yeah, the. The reckoning, the. The chickens coming home to roost for Coupe this early in the season. I mean, I know we only have actually a few more episodes left, but it still feels earlier I thought, you know, the. The earliest that they would come to arrest Coupe is the finale. So the fact that, again, like, I will give this to the show, it keeps surprising me. Like, I thought we were going to get to the dead body in the finale. I thought we would get to an arrest maybe in the finale, but we were arresting how else Coop gonna get out of this one is like, you know, where we find ourselves.
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Rob Mahoney
So all of that is true. But also, the show is cutesy enough that as you were just talking about the chickens coming home to roost, I had the thought, is this why he's named Coop? Was this all along Reindeer Games esque con to seed, like, a cutesy name idea in the middle of this whole Thing. I wouldn't put it past your friends and neighbors to do that while also surprising us along the way.
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Joanna Robinson
Can I ask you a question about how Hunter and Torie were used in last week's episode? Um, so this is an excuse to get Coop and Mel to Princess so they can relive their courtship and their, you know, early twenties and. And all that sort of stuff. So I understand that like, premise wise, we're taking our daughter to go look at Princeton is. But like, Tori has this, I guess, adventure at a frat party where she vomits on some guy's like, dick or whatever.
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Rob Mahoney
And then I did laugh at that. I'm not better than that. I don't know quite a bit.
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Joanna Robinson
I laughed. I laughed that the, that the acapella group had changed the problematic lyrics of Shaboom to like, consent can be so nice. I did laugh at that. But like, she has that adventure and then Hunter goes to Ultraviolet Studios, which is a real place, and like, lays down some sick beats or something like that.
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Rob Mahoney
Eats a sandwich.
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Joanna Robinson
Neither of those stories seem like they actually have much to do with those kids. Like, they're not really interested in giving them an actual storyline in those episodes. Like, Tori ends the episode being like, maybe I'll break up with my boyfriend. And then, oops, he's there, you know, back together with her when. When Coop's in the hospital. By the next week's episode, Hunter, the most anything that happens to Hunter is like the text exchange she gets on the car on the way back. At the end, the whole studio thing is like, yeah, an absolute zero story. So it's almost like your friends and neighbors keeps finding itself in the space of like, not enough. Like, you know, there's like, why bother giving Hunter something to do at all? Like, I would just have him sit in the room or something like that if you want. It's a great point out of the, out of the picture. But you have nothing to give him story wise. Why are we even dealing with him at all? Do you know what I mean? So like, it's. I find, I find in the show's desire to keep oozing out and introducing new characters and getting us into the corners of like, what's happening in Elena's family and what's happening with Detective Lynn and all this other stuff like that, I'm just sort of like, you have too much and then not enough at the same time is where I keep finding ourselves here.
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Rob Mahoney
I think the whole point of Hunter's story is to have Coop doing something nice for his son, where he's, like, put in the forethought to make this booking to ask for this favor for something that his son would genuinely like. Okay, other than that, I agree with you. There's nothing there. I'm almost more frustrated by the Tory part of the story just because, like, we're actually spending time there, right? Like, we are diverting. We're stepping out of our little time machine and we're spending time with Tori at this party with this acapella guy. Like, again, there's some decent laughs in there, but I almost would have preferred it if it was the, like, pure time capsule element of Coop and Mel. Like, we're in this bubble together. We're not talking about real life. The kids are doing their things. Maybe they're getting calls and text. But, like, keep us anchored with those characters if that's the kind of episode you want to have.
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Joanna Robinson
I really agree. Just don't cut away to the kids at all. Just, like, find. Give me a thinly veiled excuse why they're left to their own devices. And then don't go back to the kids at all. Or if you're gonna go back to them, give them a story that feeds back into their characters or feedbacks into larger themes of the show or something like that.
- [23:48]
Rob Mahoney
But by the end of the episode, it's clear that they want Coop and Tori to have this heart to heart conversation to come together a little bit after fighting earlier in the episode. They want Hunter to take off the headphones and engage with his family. And maybe the reason he's doing that is because he's had this, like, fulfilling musical experience in the stud, you know, behind the dials. Because you do want to set up getting them to the restaurant at the end and Coop being able to look down the table and say, like, this is the thing I actually want. And I know it's like frittering between my fingers, but, like, there's something here that I like. And then come the art henchmen and everything goes to shit.
- [24:20]
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Rob Mahoney
Now we're in investigation mode. Joe like it is fully underway. And this is where I would like to get into our likability power rankings because we're really getting to spend some honest to goodness time with Detective Rebecca Lynn, who is just one of the toughest hangs on the show.
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Joanna Robinson
Really tough.
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Rob Mahoney
Just like however adversarial with every single person in her life.
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Joanna Robinson
And I would say, however, her investigation brings me my most likable character, which is Officer Hernandez. If this, if I have anything to cling to, it's Officer Ryan Hernandez crouched behind a garbage can while Ally gives Bruce, who sucks, a handy in the car. Like that is. That is what I am living for on this show at this point.
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Rob Mahoney
One of the only chill and normal and well adjusted people on the show that we've met so far. Plus secure enough in himself to try out a new scent. Yeah, just trying new things. He's just trying to trying to reinvent himself in a casual, small, incremental way. Officer Hernandez is absolutely on my list for my likability power rankings. I think he has to be who is your number two? Joe?
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Joanna Robinson
The guy who signed Paul's memorial book. R.I.P. big guy. I don't know that guy's name.
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Rob Mahoney
That guy. That guy was good. There were some really good memorial book signings. My favorite was I think you rocked with Ed in parentheses like you rock but also past tense. And the woman who rolled up and wrote today we mourn, tomorrow we find justice. Like that lady is out for blood.
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Joanna Robinson
That book is a cherished item and I hope that Sam treasures it.
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Rob Mahoney
There's a lot happening there. As far as other likable characters, I think my number one is still Barney, who I've enjoyed basically every plot line we've gotten on the show and again, limited stuff to do. I love him there. I'm going to put Sam on the list. Is she a recognizable human person? I would say generally no. Is she likable? I think likable enough by your friends and neighbors standards on one hand, yes.
- [27:54]
Joanna Robinson
And I will say that the thing about Olivia Munn is that she's tremendously good at throwing away a joke. Like she's really, really good at that. In the bar scene with Mel while she's talking about all the paperwork and all that sort of stuff like that. Like, she's really quite good at that. Her chewing out the Sephora employee who was like, keely at Sephora need to back the fuck off. And we all agree with that. But again, this was like another self righteous sort of sorkiny monologue where I'm just sort of like, well, keely, you know, And I was just like, Jesus Christ. You know. So like again, Sam I think is an asshole and Sam I think murdered her husband and is trying to frame coot for it. So Sam also does this really interesting thing when the affirmation abrasive detective. And by the way, I love an abrasive detective. I love an abrasive woman. There's something about this that is just like, I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the like accent. I don't know. I don't know what it is.
- [28:56]
Rob Mahoney
She's coming in real hot again with, with literally everybody. And then I think that's. This is what does it for me when she comes back to coupon is like, I'm throwing you a lifeline. I'm giving you this opportunity. It's like woman, you have been, you've been such a jerk to every single person you've met on this show. Like, I don't, I don't know what to tell you. Like, I just don't buy any of that sort of sincerity from her. In that moment.
- [29:21]
Joanna Robinson
When she offers Sam the Kleenex and then samples like a hanky or like finally Mills Kleenex out of her tissue out of her bag instead. That was like, I think a top tier that is only rivaled by what was it it crushed oyster shell for the patank court. Like in terms of like rich, rich people shit, it works perfect too.
- [29:47]
Rob Mahoney
Like as a, as something you could do at any income level. But you must do on oyster shell. Perfect rich people activity.
- [29:53]
Joanna Robinson
Great shit. But yeah. Okay, so Sam's on your likability list. She's not on mine, but I support you. What's next?
- [30:00]
Rob Mahoney
Well, let's. Let's stick with Sam for a second because I do think this is a good opportunity to talk about the fact that she almost certainly committed this murder. There's a lack of viable alternatives in the case at this point. The question of, like, who could have realistically planted a gun in Coop's car is a smaller list.
- [30:16]
Joanna Robinson
And is this the payoff of Chekov's trunk? Like, all of that for this?
- [30:19]
Rob Mahoney
The fact that Chekhov's trunk had a Chekhov's gun in it is just very disappointing. I gotta say, we were dreaming so much bigger.
- [30:26]
Joanna Robinson
It's Anton all the way down. Like, it's just way too high.
- [30:31]
Rob Mahoney
Here's the thing with, like, my only hesitation on Sam is Olivia Munn's performance is so broad in that interrogation room when she. When she is confronted with the idea of, like, oh, don't you have a $20 million life insurance policy for which you were the sole beneficiary? Like, it's so clear in that moment that it's probably her. They do muddle the picture a little bit. And I will give the show credit in this way, like, as we go on, I think, for the writing of Sam and with Olivia Munn, like, they're showing us these conflicted emotions where she obviously does not like Paul, but she has this responsibility to host his funeral. She is not sad that he's gone, but her kids will be. And, like, all this stuff is threaded again in conversations like the one with Keely that should not have happened in the way that they did and are like a ridiculous scene in and of itself. But you can see how they are trying to create doubt in what seems to be, like, just the most plausible explanation on the board.
- [31:23]
Joanna Robinson
Yes. Here's the issue in terms of, like, who could have possibly killed Paul that would be interesting to us this late in the game with how little we know about Paul, right? Like, if it's just a rando that's deeply uninterested, and we know nothing else about Paul's life other than there's Sam, there's the new girlfriend, and there's the fight he had with Coop, and that's like, basically the sum total of our options here. And then the fact that Sam finds out from the cops that they know about Coop and she doesn't tell him. And then conveniently, right after that, the gun is in the trunk of his car. Like, how is it not, you know, I don't know that she set out to frame him in the first place necessarily.
- [32:05]
Rob Mahoney
I feel like a convenient way to pin him.
- [32:06]
Joanna Robinson
But I think once the cops were like, hey, we know you're him. She's like, okay, nanny cam. Got it. I'll put the gun in the trunk of his car, which I know is unlatched at all times that I can get into it. And again, the list of people who know that about the trunk, it's not that short because, like, a lot of characters have seen it. But in terms of the overlap between people who know they can get into the trunk and people who might have killed Paul, it's really just Sam, right? It's not Allie. I'll do it. Yeah.
- [32:38]
Rob Mahoney
I mean, like, yeah, Sam has experienced it. Like, I would be curious to go back and rewatch that scene if she kind of, like, clocks that moment with the trunk. Like a thing to store away for later. I think if it does turn out to be Sam figuring out the. When she decided to pin it on Coop will be an interesting conversation to have in. I mean, I'm sure we'll have it.
- [32:54]
Joanna Robinson
If we're just watching Presumed Innocent again, then maybe it's Tori.
- [33:00]
Rob Mahoney
You're not wrong. Maybe Hunter. Look, Hunter knows one girl. Like, our guy is still trying to, like, find his way into the social world.
- [33:10]
Joanna Robinson
He's had a lot of time on his hands. I don't know. You know, it's.
- [33:14]
Rob Mahoney
It's very tough all around. But, yeah, like, I think the Sam stuff, I am enjoying our time spent with that character. But it definitely seems like she murdered her husband. She's still on my likability power rankings nonetheless, I think because of that delicate dance, my number four with a bullet. Detective Lynn's dad.
- [33:30]
Joanna Robinson
Oh, yeah.
- [33:31]
Rob Mahoney
Comes in. He made eggs. You know, just a caring dad who made you breakfast.
- [33:35]
Joanna Robinson
Breakfast is important. And he didn't just make breakfast for her. He made it for her. Her. Like, I know, not officer's, not her partner, but, like, kind of her partner, functionally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I agree. I agree. Detective Lynn's dad, he's on my list, too. Love it.
- [33:48]
Rob Mahoney
He's got to be on the list. I do think as far as the investigation goes, the number of characters in this story, and this is, I think, another bullet point, data point on the Sam definitely did this conversation. The number of characters who come out of a police interrogation or a police questioning or a police warrant search. And immediately called the most incriminating party possible. Or text the most incriminating party possible. Some of these characters are clearly not career criminals, and that's fine. Like, we've seen them kind of blunder about Sam's communications. Maybe feel a little more pointed of like it's gonna say something if they subpoena my call logs. And I called Coop directly after this. The only question with Coop is, like, can Sam herself keep her hands clean if she does point the finger at Coop as the potential murderer? Like, would she not be an accomplice in some way looped into that for culpability?
- [34:37]
Joanna Robinson
That's a great question. I don't know that Sam's thinking that far that that, like, that much through. But again, I'm open. Like your friends and neighbors, they could just introduce a whole other side plot about Paul that we've not heard about in the next few episodes. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, well, clearly it was Paul's, like, pool guy who. He has this, like, thing, you know, something like that. I don't.
- [34:58]
Rob Mahoney
Look, there were a lot of guys at Guys Night. It could have been anyone who was gawking the luxury toilet. Who killed Paul? I don't. I don't know.
- [35:04]
Joanna Robinson
It's true.
- [35:05]
Rob Mahoney
We do have a lot of those side plots. Even still, we've talked through a lot of them, Joe. And there are more still. Elena has a whole story going on. And I say that in somewhat in air quotes, because I would say a huge part of her story is calling Coop and not him not picking up. We get many, many scenes of her trying to get in contact with him and failing. But now she has this financial urgency in that Chivo, who I believe is her cousin, if I'm not mistaken, I.
- [35:30]
Joanna Robinson
Think that's her brother.
- [35:31]
Rob Mahoney
That's her brother.
- [35:32]
Joanna Robinson
Hector's her.
- [35:33]
Rob Mahoney
Hector is the cousin.
- [35:33]
Joanna Robinson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [35:34]
Rob Mahoney
So her brother owes $150,000 to a drug dealer by next week. And you know he's a drug dealer because he can walk in and eat half of your fries and there's nothing you can do about it. This is a dangerous man.
- [35:44]
Joanna Robinson
I love. Okay, so I love this. The scenes where they're speaking Spanish and specific, like, regional Spanish was really fun. The subtitles. Every time that this drug dealer called her brother. Chivo is her brother. Every time he called him Billy Goat. Cabron, they called him Cabron. And I was just like, billy Goat is not really, like. That's not really capturing the essence, I wouldn't say. So what you're calling him there when you call him cabron. But yeah, so Elena's in a. Elena who we found out used to, you know, work in this drug world. But yeah, it was like a very, like sort of Breaking Bad side plot. Like, we might as well be at the Pollos Hermanos, like, sort of side plot for Elena. It's not uninteresting to me, but it is again, just like more of that ooze where I'm like, okay, so now I'm tracking, tracking her brother Hector, this drug dealer, you know, and then the drug dealer mentions some other people in his organization. So how. How far is that it was going to go? I have questions about it. I have no answers for you.
- [36:51]
Rob Mahoney
But I mean, do the art henchmen work overtime for the drug dealers?
- [36:55]
Joanna Robinson
You know, that art hench is a part time job. I bet that's contract work only. And there's no 401k, so there's no question.
- [37:02]
Rob Mahoney
I mean, look, working at art is always a little suspect on those grounds. Like, it's just hard to get your feet under you. And then when you're henching on the. On top of it, it's just. Just especially precarious. But yeah, we do have that side plot that's oozing out. We also have one that unfortunately, I think we have to talk about, which is everything that's going on with Ali and Bruce.
- [37:20]
Joanna Robinson
I knew that. I knew this motherfucker was gonna do this. I knew he was gonna show up.
- [37:23]
Rob Mahoney
You called this like three pods ago.
- [37:25]
Joanna Robinson
I gotta say, I knew it. Well, I mean, like, so the actor who plays Bruce is, is like a musical Broadway actor who I really, really like. He's very, very talented. Wanted. So it was like slight casting spoiler. I was like, I don't think you cast him to not use him. I was surprised when he showed up at the beginning just to like, look concerned and get her off my lawn. I was like, why'd they cast Ramin for that? That's very odd. And then when, yeah, when they ran into each other gym, I was like, of course this motherfucker's gonna come to her open mic night. And of course he's gonna be like, my wife doesn't understand me, but you do.
- [37:57]
Rob Mahoney
Yeah.
- [37:58]
Joanna Robinson
I did not know that he was gonna bring over his fucking football jersey for her to wear. And then just like scoot out the door without even his shoes on, I think when the cops show up.
- [38:09]
Rob Mahoney
So did he have him in hand? Did he at least take him with him?
- [38:11]
Joanna Robinson
No, he had like, his belt and like, I think his. I didn't see his shoes. I was like, where are you? I really think he got into his car in his socks and was like, I'll figure it out later. But, yeah, fuck you, Bruce. This woman is mentally unwell and you are the worst. So.
- [38:28]
Rob Mahoney
And he knows this, right? It's not like this is a person he just met. Like, they have an incredible amount of history together and that's why they're able to accelerate so quickly into the wear your ex fiance's football jersey while you're knocking boots to St. Vincent, like, phase of their relationship. Like, they are fast tracked all the way there.
- [38:44]
Joanna Robinson
Knocking boots. Literally leave the boots. I know. I love that. Love it.
- [38:47]
Rob Mahoney
He had very specific asks for that moment.
- [38:49]
Joanna Robinson
Before we get to Bruce, though, we have to talk about the one thing that I texted you about watching last week's episode.
- [38:57]
Rob Mahoney
Ali has a new job and it's playing at, I would say, the world's most attentive and respectful bar that I have ever seen. Like, a musical performer do their thing at, like, does not make sense. Everyone is locked in.
- [39:09]
Joanna Robinson
They make them different in New Haven. What can I say?
- [39:13]
Rob Mahoney
I can only attribute that to the fact that she's just playing songs straight off the Magnolia soundtrack.
- [39:18]
Joanna Robinson
Joe, I lost my mind. I genuinely gasped and texted you while it was happening. Yeah, she's singing Wise up up, the Amyman classic from the Magnolia soundtrack. And I was like, you can't. You simply can't.
- [39:34]
Rob Mahoney
This is the thing.
- [39:35]
Joanna Robinson
You simply can't.
- [39:36]
Rob Mahoney
I don't. I don't want to be precious, but it's like, are you kidding me?
- [39:39]
Joanna Robinson
The Thompson Twins was one thing, like, a couple weeks ago, but Amy man, why is that? Why is it, like, maybe a deeper cut from the Magnolia soundtrack, but, like.
- [39:48]
Rob Mahoney
Plenty of Amy man tracks to choose from for this moment.
- [39:51]
Joanna Robinson
Or like, give me some Super Tramp for the Magnolia soundtrack. Like, I'm. I'm here for it, but Wise up is off the list. You can't use it. And they were like, sure we can. We're your friends and neighbors. We do what we want. I was stunned by this.
- [40:05]
Rob Mahoney
The audacity. I'm not even saying it to be precious about it. Like, there are some songs you shouldn't use, period. This isn't like a deference thing to me so much, although I do feel a bit of that. It's more like it's done, like, yeah, PTA did it. It was a huge sing along moment within the context of that movie. That is like, like Etched into its DNA.
- [40:25]
Joanna Robinson
Yeah.
- [40:26]
Rob Mahoney
If you're revisiting it, like, you better have a very good reason in order to sell it. And I don't think the show does anything to sell it. And it's. It just makes it super weird. If you're at all familiar with that.
- [40:35]
Joanna Robinson
Movie, that's what I would say is, like, you can't. It's not. Yeah, it's not a deference thing. It's like, it was used so powerfully that. To use it in this, like, rather unpowerful moment because, like, yes, she's caught Bruce's eye and she's, like, delighted to see that he's there.
- [40:50]
Rob Mahoney
But in.
- [40:51]
Joanna Robinson
But then he's just about to fuck her over, like, literally. And then, like, you know, emotionally in the next episode. And so I'm like, this isn't some big turning point for Ally, as far as I know. And in fact, I would say that, like, I mean, it's all connected, but the trauma of her just standing there with a warrant in her hand, unsure what to do while the cops rip the house down around her seemed like a more emotionally resonant moment to me than, like, anything that happened with Bruce, even though her paralysis there is connected to Bruce, like, abandoning her. But, yeah, it's just like. It does. It actually does that scene a disservice to make us think of Magnolia and this sort of bigger, much more earned collective ennui that is expressed by that song in that film. I was absolutely stunned by this. Absolutely.
- [41:39]
Rob Mahoney
This is. This is where I get a little frustrated with. It is like, that song and that invocation is so much about the power of that collective ennui and the way that it sort of unites us as humans. And clearly your friends and neighbors is going for a version of that by the end of episode seven. Right. Like, we have a lot of characters in dire straits in really tough spots. You didn't earn it that well, I'm gonna say. Like, you didn't get that payoff yet. And, yes, like, the stuff with Ally I do find very affecting for a character that I thought is. I think it's, like, kind of gone off the rails since the early episodes for the most part. But here you really do feel the sense building over these two episodes of she's got one person in her life, and it's Coop. And to the extent that he. Even if he murdered Paul, she's like, whatever. Like, you're my guy. I rely on you. I'm with you. Regardless of what happened, she tries to grab onto Bruce as she lightly stalks him. And then he walks back into her life, and that goes very poorly. And so I feel for her desperation in that moment. I feel for. Like, Mel has been wanting to talk to Coop and have an honest conversation about his feelings now for weeks on end, and he refuses to do it. Like, they're clearly. And then Coop himself is, like, in a. You know, in a jail cell. By the end of this, he seems as peaceful as anybody.
- [42:52]
Joanna Robinson
Oh, God. And then. Yeah. And he won't take Elena's calls. Like, you know, all the different side plots are trying to get in touch with Coop, and he's just sort of like, well, I'm living out my fantasy of having my family back or whatever it is. But, like, yeah, Coop's voiceovers that he does at the end of the episodes. We've been talking about the Coop voiceovers this whole time. He has the, like, ah, my family back together voiceover at the end of, you know, the previous episode. And then the, you know, the first honest moment. I actually got a good night's sleep in this jail cell moment at the end of. Of this week's episode. And then we get. We didn't get a Home Shopping Network moment in the Princeton episode, but we get this, like, fake dream one in this episode. How did you feel about the dream sequence part of this?
- [43:38]
Rob Mahoney
I think the hardest diamonds to steal are the diamonds of the mind, Joe.
- [43:42]
Joanna Robinson
Okay, all right.
- [43:44]
Rob Mahoney
I thought, look, I love a dream sequence. Traditionally, historically, this one did not work.
- [43:49]
Joanna Robinson
What about ones that involve, like, butterflies, CGI butterflies, and, like, Mark Tallman's naked ass in an apron? Is that. Is that what you're looking for?
- [43:56]
Rob Mahoney
This was, again, like. Like, to your point about the bad Sorkin elements, like, this was just like a hodgepodge parody of those, like, crazy Lynchian sorts of dream sequences. Like, oh, this guy's naked. Oh, this person's saying something doesn't make sense. Oh, these two characters that would never be in the same place are having breakfast together. Spare me, I would say, is my merciful request. As far as those things go, it did not work for me. But thankfully, we move on pretty quickly.
- [44:20]
Joanna Robinson
That's true. I think you just nailed something that I feel about this show. It often feels like a parody. It feels like a parody of, like, adult drama. It feels like a parody of crime drama. And I am not convinced it's trying to be. I. I was compelled. We got an email from a listener. I didn't write down their name. I apologize, but, like, I was compelled by their argument. That we were not. We were not on the same page of the show, in fact, in that the show is making fun of Coop more often than we were giving it credit for. And I'm like, I. I'm compelled by that. I think you're probably right.
- [44:57]
Rob Mahoney
I think that's true.
- [44:58]
Joanna Robinson
And that's, again, part of my whole learning to embrace the fact that everyone except for Officer Ryan Hernandez is an asshole on this show.
- [45:05]
Rob Mahoney
I also want to say on that front, like, it's clear that this is a show that Apple is investing in. It's already been renewed for a season two. You can tell by the breadth of the ensemble that there are, like, plans here to continue having many, many different irons in the fire with that. And with shows like this, we often see a first season, tonally speaking, is a little off kilter that it takes a little time to kind of find its footing. It would not surprise me at all for us to have this experience with season one, and they come back with season two and it's like, okay, they have their finger on the pulse of a little bit Closer of like, this is the exact sort of tonality we're trying to hit. This is what we're trying to write. This is how these actors are trying to pitch it and perform it. I think that's totally within play. It's just right now we're just like rocky week to week because we don't know what to make of it.
- [45:47]
Joanna Robinson
I think honing in on what works and streamlining what works, works and. And elevating the characters and the performances that work and sort of shunting to the sides the ones that don't. Is. Is a. It's why season two of shows are often the best seasons of shows, I feel. You know, like Justified. One of the best seasons of television of all time is the second season. Because the first season they were doing a case of the week. Boyd Crowder was like, barely a blip on the radar sort of character, you know, and so Breaking Bad, Parks of Recreation, like, there's so many shows where it's like the first season. Buffy, Vampire Slayer, like, the first season, you're sort of like. And then, you know, people are like, oh, you gotta wait till you get to the second season. And I almost like those shows historically have a better longevity than, like, there are other shows that come in so hot in the first season. Like, something like Empire is an example I always think of. But there's shows that come in so hot, throw everything at the wall in the first season, and then they just have nothing left in the tank, you know, and it's just sort of downhill from there. And so I agree with you that. That there is. I mean, like, everyone here is a really capable performer. The visual style is really good. There are some themes that are interesting. So we can definitely. I could definitely see a second season. We were talking about this with Bad Monkey, too. Like, we were just sort of like Bad Monkey. The. The ingredients are there. You just diluted it with a bunch of extra stuff, and if you just sort of, you know, condense it down, this could be a really excellent second season of television and that. So that might be like an Apple TV sort of question for some of these shows. Yeah.
- [47:31]
Rob Mahoney
And I think that could be a really rewarding experience as a viewer, too. Right. To have something in the first season where it's like, okay, I like some of the elements of this, but it's a little bit imperfect in its way. It's a little unpolished.
- [47:40]
Joanna Robinson
Yeah.
- [47:40]
Rob Mahoney
And then you get to feel the charge of the clarifying nature of the show kind of coming together over time. I think, look, to bring the Sorkin home, like, you got to send your Mandy's to Mandyville. Like, you got to excise some characters. You got to. You got to really nail down what it is about your show that's working, as you said. And I think. I think we're kind of getting closer to that point, or at least we're getting. We're putting these characters into an interesting dramatic space with this murder plot where we're seeing some new sides of them. We're seeing some elements be pulled out of these relationships that I really like. Joe, are there any other threads, any other notes you want to hit? Is there anything else you want to reflect on?
- [48:14]
Joanna Robinson
Well, I just want to. Yeah, I want to dip one toe back into that second season conversation. Please say two things. One is that, like, it's also possible that, like, the highest level of copium ever is maybe the second season will be great.
- [48:28]
Rob Mahoney
It's very true. We're talking ourselves into it in real time. But you're absolutely right.
- [48:34]
Joanna Robinson
You have to be really careful. Careful when you enter. Put a murder plot out there. Because, like, let's say Sam did do it.
- [48:42]
Rob Mahoney
Yeah.
- [48:43]
Joanna Robinson
And again, I. I would be. I love a murder mystery, and I would love some more suspects. I love to theorize. I would love literally any other suspects on the board. But let's say Sam does do it. Does that mean, like, Olivia Munn's off the board in season two? That would be A real hardship for the show, you know? So, like, like. Or did she do it and get away with it? Is that an interesting thing to think about? I don't know, but I like talking to you about it. I like. I like texting you incredulously about it. I, Sean, Fantasy was texting me about it was really cracking me up. So, like, you know, there is. And talking to Bill about it actually really cracked me up. So there's like, a way to enjoy this, I think not in my usual let me parse every single detail kind of way. So just sort of like, learn how to relax and love the bomb that is your friends and neighbors, which is what I am endeavoring to do.
- [49:31]
Rob Mahoney
So, yeah, I had that moment when I was Google translating the messages from the housekeepers group chat, and I'm like, I want to know what these ladies are talking about. And I'm like, what am I doing? This is not the experience of the show. This is not what this is about.
- [49:44]
Joanna Robinson
Yeah.
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Rob Mahoney
I have one final question for you to get us out of here. At Paul's funeral. Yeah, we get all of these bros huddled around talking about the market rate, the going rate for a murder house, and the markdown that would come with it. Would you personally, Joanna Robinson, buy or live in a murder house?
- [50:01]
Joanna Robinson
So quickly? So quickly. If I could get a house on a Disney.
- [50:04]
Rob Mahoney
Oh, you're in there.
- [50:05]
Joanna Robinson
Oh, yeah.
- [50:06]
Rob Mahoney
That's a hard. I thought that was going hard. No, but you're hard. Yes. 25% under market.
- [50:10]
Joanna Robinson
Absolutely. Yes.
- [50:12]
Rob Mahoney
See, this is somewhat surprising to me as somebody who is, like. I'm gonna say witch inclined.
- [50:16]
Joanna Robinson
Oh, wow.
- [50:17]
Rob Mahoney
That you would not also be ghosting on.
- [50:19]
Joanna Robinson
Thank you so much for, you know, enjoying my. The full scope of my identity. I am witch inclined. I think you can cleanse a space. There's such a thing as smudging. I. I did. A friends of friends of mine bought a house a couple years ago, and when they moved in, we were all like, we are very certain someone was murdered here.
- [50:38]
Rob Mahoney
The vibe in the building was off.
- [50:40]
Joanna Robinson
It was just, like, so clear to us. And, like, all the carpets came out and we, like, painted. You know, there's just, like, ways in which you can cleanse it out and get a. Get a house for a deal. And in today's market, you got. You got to do what you got to do. Now, if it's the murder house from American Horror Story season one, that's a no for me.
- [51:01]
Rob Mahoney
If gimp outfits are involved, you're out.
- [51:03]
Joanna Robinson
If there's vinyl or pleather or whatever that outfit was made of. If Dylan McDermott is there, if ghost Evan Peters is there, I'm out. But otherwise, I meant how about you, Rob? Are you buying a haunted murder house?
- [51:16]
Rob Mahoney
I think I probably would, yeah. I'm not too superstitious about these things. I don't really believe in the supernatural in that way. I think it'd be the kind of thing where you have to be careful about who in your life you tell about it because there'd be some people who just like, don't want to come over to the murder house. For me, personally, I think I'm okay. I think I get along just fine. But if you're out there and you got murder houses for sale at well below market, I guess, get at us at prestige tv@Spotify.com. let us know about your listings. Let us know how you're feeling about your friends and neighbors. Tune in with us on the Prestige TV feed as we go through the last of us, Joe. We're doing Poker Face. Yeah, we've got a lot going on.
- [51:51]
Joanna Robinson
It's true. I'm really excited. Thanks so much for running the podcast today, Rob. It's such a delight when you host.
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Rob Mahoney
Is it? Well, I guess we'll find out over time. I feel like I'm going to be a your friends and Neighbors Season 2 type experience. We're getting the kinks out now in the hopes that they might eventually pay off later. But. But thank you to Kevin Pooler for producing for us today. Thank you to Justin Sales as always for his production work on this feed and we will see you next time. Bye. Bye.