The Prosecutors Podcast – Episode 350: The Isdal Woman, Part 5
PodcastOne | February 24, 2026
Hosts: Brett and Alice
Episode Overview
In this fifth installment on the mysterious case of the Isdal Woman—one of Norway’s most confounding unsolved deaths—prosecutors Brett and Alice delve into new crowdsourced theories, listener feedback, and fresh analysis. This episode stands out for its collaborative approach: the hosts read and reflect on detailed listener emails that shed new light on the objects the Isdal Woman carried and her possible origins, especially focusing on forensic, historical, and linguistic nuances. The discussion intensifies the intrigue around the unidentified woman’s background, her behaviors, and the context of her death.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Listener Emails and Crowdsourcing Theories (03:32–13:15)
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Modeling Clay in the Suitcase (04:44–10:09):
- A listener with a family background in archaeology suggested the modeling clay might have been used for making molds of keys, seals, or coins, potentially for espionage.
“If we run with the idea of the Isdale woman having been a spy, my mind goes to keys. A mold could quickly and easily be taken in modeling clay, and then a key made from the mold.” – Brett (05:35)
- Alice speculates clay could record insignia from military personnel: “Super secret military operations are happening, where insignias that are very detailed can convey a lot but mean nothing to anybody else… Perhaps she's just pressing a seal into a mold and that's all she needs it for.” (07:22)
- The presence of only a small amount of clay and spoons suggests transient use—possibly making and passing along molds rather than storing keepsakes.
- A listener with a family background in archaeology suggested the modeling clay might have been used for making molds of keys, seals, or coins, potentially for espionage.
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Watches and Clothing: 70s Retail Practices (10:09–15:33):
- Another listener (a jewelry specialist) explains that watch hands set at “1:50” (the “happy face”) was standard practice, unrelated to this case.
- Discussion reveals that it was standard for secondhand clothing shops in Europe to remove or mark clothing tags to prevent resale fraud and maintain brand integrity, not necessarily for clandestine reasons.
“It may be she's trying to dress in a higher society than she actually belongs in…in order to afford those, she had to go buy them from more less expensive places.” – Alice (13:15)
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The Maps - UK Currency Clue (16:43–21:50):
- Listener Liz (credited by Brett for a crucial insight) points out "16/6" written on maps is a pre-decimal UK price (16 shillings and 6 pence), indicating the Isdal Woman bought her maps in England before traveling.
“This could be a huge piece of information giving us some background on this woman and some more detail about her travels that we didn't have before.” – Brett (17:37)
- Alice and Brett consider this evidence for the woman’s “home base” being in the UK and her journey being meticulously planned out.
- Listener Liz (credited by Brett for a crucial insight) points out "16/6" written on maps is a pre-decimal UK price (16 shillings and 6 pence), indicating the Isdal Woman bought her maps in England before traveling.
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Train Stops and Local Context (21:50–24:48):
- A Bergen-based listener clarifies train station names on the Isdal Woman’s maps, with noted numbers representing elevation—a curious, if not fully explained, detail possibly tied to navigation or meetings.
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Italian Photographer & Bergen's Safety (25:14–29:39):
- The Italian photographer whose postcard the Isdal Woman carried was likely just a market seller, not a contact.
- Local listeners note Bergen was, and is, a safe city, downplaying theories she was hotel-hopping for personal safety from crime.
2. Behavioral Observations & Physical Evidence (37:01–43:30)
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Hotel Behavior & The Chair (37:01–38:32):
- Isdal Woman left a chair outside her hotel room when present—a likely signal for contacts.
“If you're walking down the hallway...you would know what room was hers without having to ask, right. And number two, you would know that she was there.” – Brett (37:25)
- She kept the “Do Not Disturb” sign up at all times and used muddy boots, indicating repeated trips to remote areas (possibly for clandestine meetings or drops).
- Isdal Woman left a chair outside her hotel room when present—a likely signal for contacts.
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Standing Out Despite Espionage Theories (41:13–43:01):
- The hosts note she was striking: traveling alone, elegant, with non-Norwegian cigarettes and style; her conspicuousness seems odd for a spy but might have been a calculated cover.
3. Origin Clues: Language, Appearance, and Forensics (43:30–56:06)
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Physical Markers—Teeth & Attire (43:30–49:27):
- Numerous gold fillings in her teeth (common further east in Europe) and a distinctive fur hat (Kazakh style) point toward Eastern European or Central Asian origins, possibly the former USSR.
“This was actually pretty common in Eastern Europe…they would sort of convert their wealth into gold that they would put in their teeth…” – Brett (43:30)
- Numerous gold fillings in her teeth (common further east in Europe) and a distinctive fur hat (Kazakh style) point toward Eastern European or Central Asian origins, possibly the former USSR.
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Language & Handwriting (47:50–63:12):
- Listeners, hosts, and handwriting experts agree she was educated in France, possibly Alsace-Lorraine, as her German was ‘idiosyncratic’ and her handwriting formal but French-influenced.
“The other thing about her handwriting is it indicated that she was educated in France…possibly in Alsace and Lorraine region.” – Brett (61:05)
- “Belgish,” a non-existent term, on one card, suggests linguistic confusion or deliberate camouflage.
- Listeners, hosts, and handwriting experts agree she was educated in France, possibly Alsace-Lorraine, as her German was ‘idiosyncratic’ and her handwriting formal but French-influenced.
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DNA, Isotopes, and Refugee Theory (49:27–56:06):
- Mitochondrial DNA points to central/southern Europe, and isotope analysis narrows her early childhood to Nuremberg, Germany, later shifting to border regions with France, Belgium, Luxembourg, and possibly England.
- Histories of displacement during WWII suggest she may have been a child refugee with no one left to report her missing.
“This pushes her birth back into just the most unstable, insane period you could possibly be born. Because what happened in 1933, the Nazis came to power in Germany…” – Brett (50:21)
4. Theories and Unanswered Questions (63:12–69:46)
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Linguistic Nuance and Accents (63:12–66:08):
- Alice shares insight about linguistic “placelessness,” noting how migrants often have unplaceable accents—perhaps leading Norwegians to recall the Isdal Woman as “sounding funny.”
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Wrap-Up & Continuing Investigation (66:08–69:46):
- The hosts intend to explore remaining clues next episode (her smell, her “passport,” final sightings).
- Brett: “This case, the more we talk about it, the better it gets…It is now on my Mount Rushmore [of cold cases].” (68:45)
- Listener engagement continues to shape the exploration—listeners are encouraged to send further details, especially connections that might pinpoint linguistic roots or artifacts.
Notable Quotes & Moments
- On Listener Collaboration:
“Best use of crowdsourcing.” – Alice (04:00)
- Key Piece of Evidence:
“When I read this, it changed my entire perspective on this case.” – Brett on the UK map price clue (16:43)
- On Hotel Behavior:
“She is here, she’s ready to record. You know. Will she make it through to the end? We don’t know, but we’re about to find out.” – Brett jokes about Alice’s illness mirroring the episode’s suspense (03:20)
- On Her Background:
“She does not seem to be a part of the master race. No.” – Brett on her likely victimhood during Nazi expansion (55:31)
Important Timestamps
- 03:32: Crowdsourced theory: modeling clay and spy tools
- 10:09: Price tags, watch setting, and 1970s clothing resale
- 16:43: Critical clue—UK currency on maps suggests starting point
- 21:50: Clarification of Norwegian train station names/elevations
- 25:14: Postcards and Bergen safety context
- 37:01: Analysis of unusual hotel behavior (the “chair sign”)
- 43:30: Teeth, gold fillings, and Eastern European connections
- 49:27: DNA, isotopes, and rise of the refugee/orphan hypothesis
- 61:05: Handwriting points to education in France; language as an identifier
- 66:08: Conclusions about accents and linguistic “placelessness”
- 68:45: Case makes Brett’s “Mount Rushmore” of cold cases
The Hosts’ Takeaway
The Isdal Woman’s case grows more enigmatic as new listener contributions weave together forensics, European history, language, and odd behaviors. While some clues nudge her origins eastward (teeth, hat), others (maps, language) push west. The running theme: every answer breeds more questions, making this one of the most dynamic crowdsourced cases in true crime podcasting.
Next Week:
The hosts promise to cover remaining mysteries (her distinctive smell, passport issues, and final sightings), unveil their own theories, and continue to solicit—and celebrate—insight from their engaged audience.
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