Introducing: Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore

Summary

The Prosecutors Podcast: Episode Summary Episode Title: Introducing: Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore
Release Date: May 21, 2025
Host: PodcastOne
Description: A true crime podcast offering a unique prosecutorial perspective on famous cold cases, featuring hosts Alice and Brett.

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Introduction to "Clues" Series

In this episode, Alice and Brett from The Prosecutors introduce a brand-new Crime House original series titled Clues, hosted by Morgan Abshur and Kaylin Moore. This collaboration brings together Morgan’s experience as an internet sleuth from his podcast Two Hot Takes and Kaylin’s expertise in true crime from her podcast Heart Starts Pounding.

Alice kicks off the introduction by saying:

"It's the brand new crime house original series, Clues, hosted by Morgan Abshur and Kaylin Moore." (00:00)

Hosts' Expertise and Series Overview

Brett elaborates on what listeners can expect from Clues, emphasizing the deep dives into notorious crimes where single clues can unravel complex cases.

Brett explains:

"Clues unpacks the forensic evidence and obsessive sleuthing behind the investigations that still have people talking to this very day." (00:25)

The hosts Morgan and Kaylin outline their roles:

• Morgan Abshur serves as the Internet detective, delving into online theories and uncovering lesser-known details.
• Kaylin Moore acts as the true crime expert, analyzing timelines, forensic science, and tangible evidence.

Morgan highlights their combined efforts:

"Every Wednesday on Clues, we'll break down the small but crucial details that cracked open some of the most infamous cases." (01:28)

Kaylin adds:

"I'll be piecing together the timelines, analyzing the forensic science and tracking the hard evidence that changed everything." (01:49)

First Case Spotlight: The Murder of Lacey Peterson

The series kicks off with an in-depth examination of the murder of Lacey Peterson, a case that has puzzled investigators for years.

Morgan introduces the case:

"Today, we are opening up the case file for the murder of Lacey Peterson." (02:27)

Scott's Boat: A Central Piece of Evidence

A significant focus is on Scott's boat, purchased shortly before Lacey’s disappearance under suspicious circumstances.

Kaylin provides background:

"Scott bought it on December 9, 2002, about two weeks prior to Lacy's disappearance...he told Amber Fry, his mistress, that he had a wife who had passed away previously." (02:37)

The secrecy surrounding the boat is highlighted:

"He bought this boat in cash...no paper trail leading him to this boat. Feels pretty secretive." (02:37)

Critical Clues Found on the Boat

One of the pivotal pieces of evidence in the case involves hair fibers discovered on Scott's boat.

Morgan reveals:

"Our second clue is two dark strands of hair that were found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat." (03:42)

Initially reported as a single strand, it was later established that there were two, which significantly impacted the prosecution's argument that Lacey had been on the boat either alive or deceased.

Kaylin explains the implications:

"Because Lacey's hair was found on the boat, it meant that she had been on the boat...wrapped up in pliers. It's a very strange spot for the hair to be." (03:58)

This evidence suggested a deliberate attempt to hide or dispose of crucial forensic material.

Analyzing the Evidence

The discussion delves into the nature of the hair evidence and its placement, questioning the likelihood of accidental contamination versus intentional planting.

Morgan muses:

"It would seemingly have to be kind of intentional for it to get caught...The fact that they were wrapped up in those pliers." (04:25)

Kaylin considers alternative scenarios:

"Maybe there was a chance that he hugged her goodbye in the morning, hair got on his shirt, it got onto the boat. But we're never going to know that because Scott washed his clothes the second he got home." (04:58)

Concluding Insights

The episode underscores the importance of meticulous evidence analysis in solving crimes, highlighting how seemingly minor details can lead to major breakthroughs.

Kaylin summarizes:

"Tune in every week for Clues where even the littlest details matter. And sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction." (02:20)

Morgan encourages continued engagement:

"If you're like us and can't stop combing through case files and crime documentaries, this is the show for you." (02:14)

Final Remarks

Alice and Brett wrap up by directing listeners to follow the Clues podcast for deeper insights and updates on ongoing cases.

Alice concludes:

"Make sure to follow Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaylin Moore. Just search for Clues wherever you get your podcasts." (05:31)

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Key Takeaways:

• Clues is a collaborative true crime series combining forensic analysis and internet sleuthing.
• The inaugural case, the murder of Lacey Peterson, showcases how key evidence like hair fibers can pivot a case.
• The discussion emphasizes the blend of technical forensic details and investigative theories in solving cold cases.

For those intrigued by the intersection of detailed forensic work and investigative detective work, Clues offers a compelling exploration of some of the most baffling true crime cases.

Transcript

[Alice]

Hey, guys, it's Alice and Brett. And if you're enjoying the prosecutors, we've got something you need to check out. It's the brand new crime house original series, Clues, hosted by Morgan Abshur and Kaylin Moore. And if their names sound familiar to you, that's because Morgan hosts the podcast two Hot Takes. And Kaylin hosts the podcast Heart starts pounding. And they're coming together to host this series, Clues.

[Brett]

Every Wednesday, Morgan and Kaelin take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever, where a sing single clue can crack a case wide open. From shocking murders to high stakes trials. Clues unpacks the forensic evidence and obsessive sleuthing behind the investigations that still have people talking to this very day. Kalin is your true crime expert, breaking down the cold, hard facts of these cases. And Morgan is your Internet detective, going into full Reddit mode to uncover the theories and weird details you definitely haven't heard. So whether you're obsessed with the details, deep into Internet theories, or love a good forensic twist, you have to check out Clues. Check out this clip from their very first episode.

[Morgan Abshur]

Hi there, I'm Morgan Abshur.

[Kaylin Moore]

And I'm Kayla Moore. Between Morgan's show two Hot Takes and my show, Heart starts Pounding. We've spent years dissecting the Internet's craziest stories and the world's most chilling true crime cases.

[Morgan Abshur]

And now we're teaming up on Clues, a crime house original show powered by Pave Studios. Every Wednesday on Clues, we'll break down the small but crucial details that cracked open some of the most infamous cases. I'll be your Internet sleuth, pulling out the threads that don't add up or maybe do, and digging into the unanswered questions that still linger.

[Kaylin Moore]

And I'll be piecing together the timelines, analyzing the forensic science and tracking the hard evidence that changed everything.

[Morgan Abshur]

We're talking about the hair fiber that sealed a conviction, a footprint that blew open an alibi, and the case that took decades to solve until somebody finally connected the dots.

[Kaylin Moore]

And some clues are obvious, but some are hidden in plain sight. And sometimes they lead to places and convictions that no one ever expected.

[Morgan Abshur]

So if you're like us and can't stop combing through case files and crime documentaries, this is the show for you.

[Kaylin Moore]

Tune in every week for clues where even the littlest details matter. And sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.

[Morgan Abshur]

Today, we are opening up the case file for the murder of Lacey Peterson. I want to get into a few more of these clues, but can you give us a little bit more background on Scott's boat first.

[Kaylin Moore]

Yes, it's important to know a little bit more about this boat, actually. So Scott bought it on December 9, 2002, about two weeks prior to Lacy's disappearance. And if you've been paying attention to the timeline here, December 9th is also when he told Amber Fry, his mistress, that he had a wife who had passed away previously. Just so we're all on the same page with that, he also bought this boat in cash, which when you also add in the fact that he was keeping in a warehouse away from his family, no one knew about this boat. There's no paper trail leading him to this boat. Feels pretty secretive. According to Scott, on December 24, the day Lacy went missing, that was the first time he had ever taken this boat out. In general, even though he had bought it on December 9, he had never taken it out before. But he thought that the day Lacy went missing also was, like, the perfect time to take it out.

[Morgan Abshur]

Christmas Eve. Why not?

[Kaylin Moore]

Yeah, right. Five hours round trip. Can't get over that. Scott himself even said that Lacy had never been on this boat before. But one of the biggest clues in this case was found on the boat.

[Morgan Abshur]

Which brings us to our second clue, which is two dark strands of hair that were found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat. Initially, it was reported that only one strand of hair was found, but months later, it came out that there was actually a second strand of hair that was found in the evidence envelope.

[Kaylin Moore]

And eventually the prosecution for this case argued that because Lacey's hair was found on the boat, it meant that she had been on the boat, if not when she was alive, then when she was dead. Because hair wasn't just found on clothing. It wasn't just found strewn about in the boat. Like, maybe it had gotten on Scott's shirt and fell off. Whatever. It was wrapped up in pliers. Yeah, it's a very strange spot for the hair to be.

[Morgan Abshur]

I mean, it would seemingly have to be kind of intentional for it to get caught. I shed everywhere. Like, if you went and looked in my car right now, there'd be blonde hairs everywhere. But it was the fact that they were wrapped up in those plier. And it's not odd for someone to have pliers on a boat, especially when fishing. You know, you could use them to take a fish off of your hook or cut a line that got tangled or whatever. It's not that. It's the fact that, by his own admission, Scott said Lacey had never been on the boat, right?

[Kaylin Moore]

And again, too. It makes me think about how maybe there was a chance that he hugged her goodbye in the morning, hair got on his shirt, it got onto the boat. But we're never going to know that because Scott washed his clothes the second he got home. So all of that evidence is gone now.

[Morgan Abshur]

Make sure to tune in to Clues every week and discover the details with us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kaylin Moore]

If you want to take a peek into our case files, make sure you're following us on socials. I'm at Clues podcast on Instagram.

[Alice]

Thank you for listening to Check out the rest of this episode and so much more. Make sure to follow Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaylin Moore. Just search for Clues wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every Wednesday.