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Matt Gutman
In the latest episode, Brad sits down with ABC News reporter Matt Gutman about the re sentencing efforts in the 35 year old case of the Menendez brothers, Eric and Lyle Menendez, who were charged with the murder of their parents in 1989. You'll hear how social stigmas about masculinity and power factored into the original sentencing of the case and get insights into the brothers present day fight for their freedom. Keep listening to hear the first few minutes of the episode. If you like it, find the Crime Scene Weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to hear the rest. New episodes drop every Wednesday. Now here's the clip.
Brad Milkey
35 years after the gruesome double murder that gripped the nation, the Menendez brothers are back in the spotlight and fighting for their freedom. But it's not just what you know, it's who you know and who you can get on your side. Over the last couple weeks, that's all changing. Welcome to the crime scene. I'm Brad Milke. I host ABC's Daily News podcast. Start here. And every week we're bringing you the latest on what's big and what's new in the true crime scene. This week we're talking to ABC chief national correspondent Matt Gutman who's based in LA and has been following this case for years. He's with us now. Hey, Matt.
Matt Gutman
Hey Brad.
Brad Milkey
Before we get into the recent news, I just want to revisit some important details here. Cause I grew up in Southern California, Matt, like I grew up on the OJ Trial, the Tupac killing. And yet this still remains one of the most infamous double murders of its day. So Lyle and Eric Menendez, 18 and 21, gunned down and killed their parents, Jose Menendez and Kitty Menendez in Beverly Hills. That's not in dispute Right. They were convicted of murdering their parents. Can you take us back to that time? What was life like for this family?
Matt Gutman
We're talking about Kitty and Jose Menendez. And Jose Menendez was really a star in the entertainment world, right? He's involved in music producing. He has become a millionaire there. He has single handedly raised his family and all of his extended family up. This is an American success story, right? Basically came from Cuba, they were virtually penniless. And now he is living in a multi million dollar Beverly Hills mansion. He's got these two kids, Eric and Lyle, chiseled faces, forearms muscled and veined from tennis and sports. And they're just like poster children of Beverly Hills kids, you know, with these mops of thick dark hair, you know, they look the part. But obviously something went very, very wrong. And on this hot August 20th night, 1989, Katie and Jose are gunned down. And not just gunned down. This is like brutal, nasty, visceral, up close murder. Shotgun blasts to the kneecaps, to the back of the head on Jose. The mother is crawling. At some point she's shotgunned. They actually had to reload the shotguns, whoever the assailants were. And it was so gruesome that police didn't quite know what to make of it initially, especially because Eric and Lyle Menendez, as you mentioned, 18 to 21 at the time, were like, hey, it's not us. There were intruders. And then the different stories started to come out and they never quite made sense. And then In March of 1990, police pretty much started to piece together what was going on. They arrested Eric and Lyle and they understood that these two young men had premeditated this murder. They had planned to murder their parents. They had purchased shotguns, they had driven down to near San Diego to buy them. They had shotgunned their parents, they had reloaded at some point. It was face to face and intimate. This was a killing that involved a tremendous amount of personal hatred.
Brad Milkey
And so in 1993, their trials began. I think they were tried separately at the time. Right. They both pleaded not guilty. What was the claim they were making?
Matt Gutman
Right, Brad? They are now saying that they murdered their parents because they had to, because of self defense, because they were afraid of their father. And this unspools something else that was also completely novel and really sort of earth shattering. There was now open talk in court and in the public about these two now young men being sexually abused by their father.
Brad.
Brad Milkey
Well, and speaking of this moment, this was also the beginning of cameras in courtrooms as we now know them. And there was footage from this trial that ABC has. And in fact, here's a clip of Lyle Menendez on the stand talking about what, again at this moment was sort of earth shattering for us to hear. So let's listen to that.
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Summary of "The Menendez Brothers' Fight for Freedom" Episode of The Prosecutors
Released on April 23, 2025, by PodcastOne, "The Menendez Brothers' Fight for Freedom" delves deep into one of true crime’s most enduring and controversial cases. Hosted by Alice and Brett, seasoned prosecutors, this episode offers a comprehensive analysis of the Menendez brothers' 35-year-long legal battle for freedom. Featuring insights from ABC News correspondent Brad Milkey and reporter Matt Gutman, the episode navigates through the complexities of the case, societal influences, and the ongoing fight for justice.
The episode opens with Brad Milkey setting the stage for a revisitation of the Menendez brothers' case, emphasizing its persistent grip on public consciousness. He states, “[...] 35 years after the gruesome double murder that gripped the nation, the Menendez brothers are back in the spotlight and fighting for their freedom.” (01:27)
Matt Gutman provides a detailed backdrop of the Menendez family, highlighting the dramatic rise of José Menéndez from humble beginnings to wealth in the Beverly Hills elite. He notes, “Jose Menendez was really a star in the entertainment world... he is living in a multi-million dollar Beverly Hills mansion” (02:35). This portrayal underscores the stark contrast between the family's public success and the private turmoil that led to tragedy.
The narrative intensifies as Gutman recounts the brutal nature of the murders on August 20, 1989. He describes the killings as “brutal, nasty, visceral, up-close” with “shotgun blasts to the kneecaps, to the back of the head” (03:00). The shocking brutality led to initial confusion and disbelief, especially when the brothers initially denied involvement, claiming intruders were responsible.
As the investigation unfolds, Gutman explains how law enforcement began to unravel the truth behind the murders by March 1990. He details the brothers' premeditation: “They had purchased shotguns, they had driven down to near San Diego to buy them... It was face to face and intimate. This was a killing that involved a tremendous amount of personal hatred.” (04:54). This section emphasizes the calculated nature of the crime, contradicting the brothers' initial claims of self-defense.
Brad Milkey transitions to the trials in 1993, highlighting the brothers' plea of not guilty and their assertion of self-defense. Gutman elaborates, “They are now saying that they murdered their parents because they had to, because of self-defense, because they were afraid of their father.” (05:02). This defense introduced the controversial and public revelations of alleged sexual abuse by their father, adding a complex layer to the case.
The episode delves into the groundbreaking aspect of the trial where allegations of sexual abuse surfaced. Gutman remarks on the novelty and shock value of these accusations, stating, “This was also the beginning of cameras in courtrooms as we now know them... this was sort of earth-shattering for us to hear.” (05:25). These revelations not only impacted the legal proceedings but also influenced public perception and the portrayal of the brothers in the media.
Milkey touches upon the role of media in shaping the narrative, particularly with the advent of televised courtrooms. He references a poignant moment from the trial: “[...] here's a clip of Lyle Menendez on the stand talking about what, again at this moment was sort of earth-shattering for us to hear.” (05:26). The media's pervasive coverage played a significant role in maintaining the case's prominence over the decades.
Concluding the episode, the focus shifts to the present-day efforts of the Menendez brothers to secure their freedom. Milkey emphasizes the strategic alliances and changing public sentiments that are pivotal in their ongoing legal battle. The detailed examination underscores the intricate interplay between legal strategy, societal attitudes towards masculinity and power, and the enduring quest for justice.
Notable Quotes:
Brad Milkey [01:27]: “35 years after the gruesome double murder that gripped the nation, the Menendez brothers are back in the spotlight and fighting for their freedom.”
Matt Gutman [02:35]: “Jose Menendez was really a star in the entertainment world... living in a multi-million dollar Beverly Hills mansion.”
Matt Gutman [04:54]: “This was a killing that involved a tremendous amount of personal hatred.”
Matt Gutman [05:02]: “They are now saying that they murdered their parents because they had to, because of self-defense, because they were afraid of their father.”
Matt Gutman [05:25]: “This was also the beginning of cameras in courtrooms as we now know them... sort of earth-shattering for us to hear.”
Conclusion
"The Menendez Brothers' Fight for Freedom" offers listeners a thorough exploration of a case that has captivated public interest for over three decades. By intertwining legal analysis with societal commentary, the episode provides a nuanced perspective on the complexities of the Menendez brothers' actions, the subsequent trial, and their enduring struggle for justice. For those unfamiliar with the case, this summary serves as an informative guide, encapsulating the critical elements and ongoing debates surrounding one of true crime’s most infamous narratives.