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Episode: 35 Years and Dave Has Never Gotten This Call
Date: January 7, 2026
Host: Dave Ramsey

Episode Overview

In this episode, Dave Ramsey fields what he describes as one of the most unique questions he's received in his 35-year career: Whether it’s appropriate to use an emergency fund to purchase a gun for self-defense following a scary incident involving a stranger outside the caller’s home. The conversation centers on responding wisely to home safety fears, the role of firearms and non-lethal alternatives, and how to communicate effectively with law enforcement in emergencies.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Unusual Caller Question

• Caller’s Situation: A woman asks if she and her husband should dip into their emergency fund to buy a gun.
• Incident Details:
  • Stranger accused them (via their doorbell cam) of stealing his cell phone, as GPS pointed to their address.
  • The man loitered around their property for nearly an hour at night, which unsettled them.
  • Police were called, but slow to arrive; officers treated it as a non-urgent situation since there was no forced entry attempt.
• Unique Question:
  • Dave responds, “35 years of doing this, that's the first time I've heard that question. What is the emergency? How would a gun be an emergency?” (00:22, Dave Ramsey)

2. Escalation and Appropriate Response

• On Use of Force:
  • Dave repeatedly questions the idea of lethal self-defense in this scenario:
    • “So you’re gonna shoot him? We just escalated from a lost cell phone to somebody dead on your front porch.” (00:02, 02:17, Dave Ramsey)
  • He warns strongly against using a gun unless lives are immediately threatened:
    • “The only reason you would shoot someone is if they're inside your home about to harm your family. Not banging on your door, not scaring you.” (02:42, Dave Ramsey)
    • “You don’t wander out in the front yard. You’ll get shot.” (02:54, Dave Ramsey)
• On Law Enforcement:
  • Dave stresses the importance of insisting on a police response:
    • “You call the cops six times and say, get your butt over here. One of us is in danger, and I'm not sure which one it is. But you got. You jack the police up and let them do their job.” (02:46, Dave Ramsey)

3. Firearms, Responsibility, and Alternatives

• Dave’s Own Stance:
  • “I carry a gun. I’m a gun guy, okay? But there’s no case like that that I’m gonna shoot somebody.” (02:17, Dave Ramsey)
  • He cautions against emotional, reactionary gun purchases:
    • “Because I don't like his attitude about handling a firearm. I'm not going to tell you to buy a gun because I think you're going to get yourself in a lifetime of hurt if you handle these situations with a firearm.” (03:43, Dave Ramsey)
• Legal and Safety Risks:
  • “People like that, when they get shot, that's when you go to jail... or you spend a million dollars trying to not go to jail.” (04:08, Dave Ramsey)
• Non-Lethal Option:
  • Recommends non-lethal “Byrna” device as a compromise:
    • “It's a non-lethal firearm called a Byrna... It shoots a projectile that can either be pepper spray or a hard projectile... if you shoot someone with it, they will wish they had been shot. They'll go down, but they're not going to die.” (04:49, Dave Ramsey)
    • Approximate price: $500—on par with a handgun, but “that's not an emergency though.” (04:49, Dave Ramsey)
• Budgeting and Emotional Response:
  • Dave notes, “The fact that you all are reacting to this situation emotionally and actually calling this an emergency means you need to rethink how you're going to defend your home.” (05:18, Dave Ramsey)

4. What Constitutes an Emergency?

• Home Protection Decisions:
  • Dave makes clear that buying a firearm for self-protection is not a financial emergency:
    • “Buying a firearm for self-protection is not an emergency. What is an emergency is changing your situation so that... you don't live there anymore, you move or something like that... But I'm not going to, you know, build Fort Knox over here.” (06:03, Dave Ramsey)
• Rational Safety Improvements:
  • Advises focusing on underlying safety, communication with police, and possibly moving if the area is unsafe.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dave Ramsey’s Shock:
  • “35 years of doing this, that's the first time I've heard that question. What is the emergency? How would a gun be an emergency?” (00:22)
• Escalation Warning:
  • “We just escalated from a lost cell phone to somebody dead on your front porch. He's going to jail.” (00:02)
• On Responsible Gun Ownership:
  • “The only reason you would shoot someone is if they're inside your home about to harm your family. Not banging on your door, not scaring you, not all of that.” (02:42)
• Community and Law Enforcement:
  • “You call the cops six times and say, get your butt over here. One of us is in danger, and I'm not sure which one it is.” (02:46)
• On Emotional Decision-Making:
  • “The fact that you all are reacting to this situation emotionally and actually calling this an emergency means you need... to rethink how you're going to defend your home.” (05:18)
• Pragmatism Over Paranoia:
  • “No, buying a firearm for self protection is not an emergency... I'm not going to... build Fort Knox over here and stick... AR barrels out of every window to protect my house. No, we're not doing that.” (06:03)
• Closing Stance:
  • “I'm about as much a gun guy as anybody you'll ever talk to. So don't misunderstand. I'm not anti 2A. I'm anti shooting people. Hello. That's a bad idea.” (06:34)

Important Timestamps

• 00:22: Dave receives the unique question about using an emergency fund to buy a gun.
• 01:06: Caller describes the incident with the stranger and slow police response.
• 02:17 – 02:42: Dave’s core advice about gun use and appropriate escalation.
• 03:43: Dave questions the caller’s husband’s attitude about firearms.
• 04:49: Introduction of the “Byrna” non-lethal firearm alternative.
• 05:18: Dave emphasizes emotional decision-making and reframing the situation.
• 06:03 – End: Final advice on what actually constitutes an emergency and smart home defense.

Summary Takeaway:
Dave Ramsey uses this rare call to deliver tough love and practical advice: Fear-driven, reactive gun purchases are unwise both financially and for personal safety. Focus on law enforcement, rational planning, and non-lethal alternatives. True emergencies are about real, immediate danger, not simply feeling shaken by an unusual event. The episode ultimately stresses personal responsibility, clear thinking, and prioritizing lawful, effective responses to fear.