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Rachel Cruze
Hi.
Caller
I just needed to get some advice. I did the ultimate. No, no. I bought a house with somebody I wasn't married to. After about a year of having the house, I needed to move out due to some circumstances when we broke up. And now the house is going to go into foreclosure. And I'm just trying to figure out what are my options here, what to. I've also accumulated about $25,000 in debt due to these circumstances and trying to figure out how I can get out of this.
Rachel Cruze
$25,000 in debt to who?
Caller
Credit cards, loans, personal loans. Well, it wasn't a. Well, I guess you can call it a personal loan. It was a water softener bill for the house.
Dave Ramsey
That's the circumstances.
Caller
That was. That's one of the loans. That was. That's part of my debt.
Dave Ramsey
What happened? Are you on the mortgage?
Caller
Yes, I'm on the mortgage. We're both on the mortgage.
Dave Ramsey
And you're both on the deed?
Caller
And we're both on the deed. He's still in the house? I moved out.
Dave Ramsey
You moved out and he decided to stop paying?
Caller
Yes.
Rachel Cruze
But you've been paying.
Caller
Well, yeah, we were paying before. When I moved out, he was paying and then now he decided to stop.
Rachel Cruze
Paying and he's already in foreclosure or it is in the process of getting there.
Caller
It's in the process of getting there. We're four months behind. We have been trying to sell the home but have been unsuccessful with that.
Rachel Cruze
Unsuccessful in that no one's even looking at it. Or you've had showings and they're giving you feedback that you can process.
Caller
We had showings but no real interest in the house. And it's a brand new house.
Dave Ramsey
Are you working with a real estate pro?
Caller
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
And what is their logic for why nothing's moving here? Is it priced too high?
Caller
It was. They feel like it's. Well, it was priced too high, but because there was a new community being built in the area that. That was kind of affecting us as well because they were able to bring their prices down, give low interest rates and that sort of thing.
Rachel Cruze
Have you lowered your price?
Caller
Yes, as far as we can go. We're now in the process of acting the mortgage company for short sale to see if that's even possible.
Dave Ramsey
Do they know that you have the place listed and you're trying to sell it before the foreclosure goes through?
Caller
They do. Yes, they do now.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. I mean, that's going to be your best bet is just trying to sell this thing asap. Even if you're lower. Even if you have to lower the price and instead of going through a short sale or worst case, that foreclosure.
Caller
But even if we. But even if we lower the price, the bank has to approve us going below what we owe on.
Dave Ramsey
Yes. What do you guys owe on the mortgage for?
Caller
65.
Dave Ramsey
And when you moved out, he obviously could not pay that mortgage on his own. Was that the case?
Caller
I'm assuming no. Yes. I don't know. He paid it for six months, so.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, he was floating it and then could no longer float. What's the communication like with your ex right now?
George
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Dave Ramsey
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Dave Ramsey
What's the communication like with your ex right now?
Caller
We don't communicate unless it has something to do with the. The home.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, my goodness.
Rachel Cruze
And just one more clarification. Question. You've been paying your half of it. Is that how you guys have been doing this? Splitting the payments and you've been making your payment?
Caller
No, I don't pay anything towards the mortgage. I. I moved out. I had to find another place to stay, so I'm paying where I have to live.
Rachel Cruze
Okay, but your name is. Is on the. Okay. You understand why I asked that.
Dave Ramsey
You have a legal obligation.
Rachel Cruze
You are legally obliged to pay that whether you've moved out or not. So.
Dave Ramsey
Wow. I don't see a way out of this unless you guys can find a way to sell it before it forecloses. And I don't know that you can or want to float the payments to help get out of this or have the ability to.
Caller
No, I don't have the ability to.
Dave Ramsey
What. What are you making right now? What's your income?
Caller
About 112.
Dave Ramsey
And where's all that money going?
Caller
That's a good income to my expenses.
Dave Ramsey
What's your rent?
Caller
2400.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. And what else? Because you're bringing home probably what, eight grand?
Caller
No, probably about six.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Caller
I mean, well, after tax, I guess you're saying after taxes. After tax is about 6.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. Are you doing any investing right now?
Caller
Yes. I mean, I invest in, you know, my 401k and stuff like that.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, we need to pause all of that. You need to act like everything is on fire and you need to work on getting out of this house mess and paying off your debt. So we're not saving.
Rachel Cruze
Right.
Dave Ramsey
Do you have any savings?
Caller
Yeah, I have a. I have some in savings.
Dave Ramsey
How much?
Caller
I have about 4 in savings.
Dave Ramsey
4000. And what is what's owed to get current on the mortgage?
Caller
About 12,000.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. And he doesn't have anything saved?
Caller
I would assume not. I can't say for sure.
Dave Ramsey
I would do some homework and find out where you're at in the foreclosure process and find out how much time you have to at least try to get current on payments so that you can get out of the foreclosure process and have time to then sell.
Caller
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
And that might mean you both put some skin in the game and go, all right, I'm going to put in three grand a month and we're going to get caught up on these payments, which means you need to get rid of all of the expenses in your life. Anything that isn't food, utility, shelter, transportation must go right now, including investing.
Caller
Okay, well, do you. Well, I have these credit cards that have, like, high interest rates. Do you suggest taking a loan from the 4.1k? No paying it off.
Dave Ramsey
No more debt. If it has the word loan in it. If it has the word consolidation or relief or settlement, run far away. Your income is the solution here.
Rachel Cruze
You. Which means you need more income. You may need to get a second job, a third job for a short amount of time. You gotta get these house payments current so that again, to George's point, you have time to sell this house. You don't want to go through foreclosure.
Dave Ramsey
Can he get a temporary roommate, a friend of his, to live in the house too, and pay rent to help get above water?
Caller
I don't know. That's what I mean. Like I said, we don't have communication. I would suggest that. That that's what he do.
Dave Ramsey
You're gonna need to start communicating. You guys entered quite the partnership here to then just flee the coop.
Rachel Cruze
I get that you guys don't love each other and you don't like, but you need each other right now. And that really is awful. I get it. But you guys have got to partner up on this thing to get out of this deal.
Dave Ramsey
You're on the hook for $465,000.
Caller
Yeah, I know. I know.
Dave Ramsey
And this could wreck your financial life.
Rachel Cruze
This is where I could get him on the phone. I think Ramsey show needs to go the next level and get this dude on the phone and we. We mediate this deal.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, my goodness.
Rachel Cruze
That would be.
Dave Ramsey
That could be a new show.
Rachel Cruze
Show that people need to see. I'm telling you, we could help. You guys need to be adults and sit down and figure this out.
George
There's no more.
Rachel Cruze
There's no more blame here. There's no more. You did this. You said this. This is. We're idiots because we did this. And we've got to figure this out. And then we learn and we lick our wounds and we move on from each other. But this is going to make this breakup 10x worse. Am I right, George?
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Rachel Cruze
Play this out.
Dave Ramsey
Well, there's just. You're. You're kind of stuck right now until you guys figure out the next move. And there's sort of the abc. The best option is to sell it for the most you can get for it. And then you're probably gonna lose money on this deal. I assume no one's walking away with cash at the end of this.
Caller
Exactly. We accepted that.
Rachel Cruze
I'm afraid that this guy, he's just mailed it in. At this point. He's given up and he's just gonna let everything just burn down.
Dave Ramsey
Is he gainfully employed?
Caller
As far as I know of, yes.
Dave Ramsey
How would she know?
Rachel Cruze
They don't talk.
Dave Ramsey
I think you need to. You need to have a come to Jesus meeting and say, I gotta know everything about what's going on in your life. And you're gonna know everything that's going on in my life until this is all over. But we need to make a game plan.
Caller
Yes. Okay.
Dave Ramsey
I'm so sorry. You can talk to a real estate attorney and dig into that, but that's gonna cost you too. But I really hope this doesn't end in foreclosure. And you have an amazing income. Use that to your advantage to catch up and get out of this thing with as little damage as possible. Create your free everydollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
Summary of "Bought A House With My Ex-Fiancé And Now It's Going Into Foreclosure"
Podcast Information
The episode centers around a caller who finds themselves in a financial predicament after purchasing a house with their ex-fiancé. The caller outlines the following key points:
Notable Quote:
“I bought a house with somebody I wasn't married to. After about a year of having the house, I needed to move out due to some circumstances when we broke up. And now the house is going to go into foreclosure.” ([00:08])
Joint Responsibility: Dave Ramsey emphasizes the legal obligations that come with joint mortgage and deed ownership. He points out that both parties are equally responsible for the $465,000 mortgage.
Challenges in Selling the House:
Notable Quote:
“That's going to be your best bet is just trying to sell this thing asap. Even if you're lower. Even if you have to lower the price and instead of going through a short sale or worst case, that foreclosure.” ([02:54])
Immediate Actions:
Debt Management:
Notable Quotes:
“You need to act like everything is on fire and you need to work on getting out of this house mess and paying off your debt.” – Dave Ramsey ([05:32])
“You need more income. You may need to get a second job, a third job for a short amount of time.” – Rachel Cruze ([06:55])
Ex-Partner Cooperation: The breakdown in communication between the caller and their ex-fiancé is highlighted as a significant barrier to resolving the foreclosure issue. Both parties are urged to collaborate despite personal differences.
Potential Solutions:
Notable Quotes:
“You guys entered quite the partnership here to then just flee the coop.” – Dave Ramsey ([07:23])
“We could help. You guys need to be adults and sit down and figure this out.” – Rachel Cruze ([07:59])
Financial Consequences: Dave Ramsey underscores the severe impact that foreclosure could have on the caller's financial future, potentially ruining their credit and financial stability.
Call to Action: The caller is encouraged to:
Notable Quotes:
“This could wreck your financial life.” – Dave Ramsey ([07:48])
“We're just idiots because we did this. And we've got to figure this out.” – Rachel Cruze ([08:05])
The episode provides a thorough exploration of the complexities involved when personal relationships intersect with significant financial commitments like joint home ownership. The Ramsey Network experts emphasize the importance of communication, strict budgeting, and proactive income generation to mitigate the risks of foreclosure. They also highlight the necessity of handling joint financial obligations responsibly, regardless of personal relationship dynamics.
Final Advice:
“Use that to your advantage to catch up and get out of this thing with as little damage as possible.” – Dave Ramsey ([09:08])
Resource Mention: The episode concludes with a promotion for the EveryDollar budgeting app, encouraging listeners to take control of their finances through effective budgeting.
Key Takeaways: