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Today's question comes from Tarek in Washington, D.C. he says, I understand your advice that a house payment should be close to a quarter of your take home pay. However, if someone is a high income earner, say $20,000 a month, couldn't the percentage be higher if the mortgage were 40%? That would still leave $12,000 a month for all other expenses. Or would a sliding scale be applicable? Depend more applicable depending on income. You know, for this you want to buy a bigger, he wants to buy a bigger house. I mean that's probably Dave, there's probably a point where it does run out, right. Like when you're really just Dave Ramsey.
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I could see I don't have a house payment. So it doesn't.
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That's true. But I mean there could probably be a point where it doesn't hold as much water. But I think at that level that you're talking about, it still does because really the way I think about it is all of these percentages as a whole. So if you say okay, 25%, that's going to my mortgage and then yeah, at some you're going to need to be investing 15%, you know, into at least 15%. Right. Into mutual funds. Then if you're we, we take, we say, you know, generosity is important so you're going to be needing to do 10% there. And let's just say yeah, now you're in baby steps five and six too. So you've got kids college and maybe you're paying extra towards the house. That could be another 10%. So now we're at 60% and we really haven't even, we haven't gone on vacation. We haven't just been living life. So you see that the money goes very quickly. And that for me is why 25% is yeah. It makes it to where that house is a blessing and not a burden. And when you start creeping above that, you will find especially, especially depending on season of life, you will find that it's too tight to make everything work. If you have, if you're trying to cash flow college, if you're trying to cash flow daycare, when you are out of whack in those, in those areas, you will feel it very quickly. And that's that for me is a real time example of that.
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No, Tariq, a sliding scale would not be appropriate. A percentage is appropriate because a sliding scale would make the assumption that you're going to keep the stupid mortgage. I want you to pay off the stupid mortgage. And if you keep the percentages down, you can pay off the stupid mortgage. We're not keeping it. It's not a pet. We're not trying to manage our debt. We're trying to freaking kill it. So that changes the discussion. Dude. If you want to keep it around like a pet, then a sliding scale would be applicable. But wealthy people don't do that. Wealthy people pay off their mortgage as is told to us in the data when we studied more millionaires than anyone else has ever studied in the Ramsey research project. They pay off their mortgage trick. They don't keep it around and manage it. So now you just want a bigger house. That's all it is. No.
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And his.
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Get your stinking debt down and pay it off and kill it fast. Then you can build wealth and do anything you want to do at that point. From that point on.
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Yeah, because you're so you're just looking at the numbers and you're going, $12,000. I'll still have $12,000. That's a lot of money. But you're not thinking about all of the other things that you will need to do with that.
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Throw that money at the debt. So you kill the debt.
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That's right.
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Summary of "Can Higher Income Earners Justify Buying A Bigger House?"
The Ramsey Show Highlights Episode released on July 11, 2025, delves into the financial considerations high-income earners should contemplate before deciding to purchase a larger home. Hosted by the Ramsey Network, the episode features a dynamic discussion between experts as they dissect whether increasing one’s mortgage percentage is a prudent financial move for those earning significantly above average.
The episode kicks off with a listener question from Tarek in Washington, D.C., addressing a common financial dilemma faced by high earners:
Tarek asks:
"I understand your advice that a house payment should be close to a quarter of your take-home pay. However, if someone is a high income earner, say $20,000 a month, couldn't the percentage be higher if the mortgage were 40%? That would still leave $12,000 a month for all other expenses. Or would a sliding scale be applicable? Depends more applicable depending on income."
(00:10)
Tarek's query challenges the traditional financial guideline of allocating approximately 25% of take-home pay to housing, proposing that higher earners might sustain a larger mortgage payment without straining their finances.
Speaker B responds by emphasizing that while a higher income might seem to allow for a larger mortgage, the cumulative effect of various financial commitments can quickly erode the perceived flexibility:
"I think at that level that you're talking about, it still does because really the way I think about it is all of these percentages as a whole. So if you say okay, 25%, that's going to my mortgage and then yeah, at some point you're going to need to be investing 15%, you know, into at least 15% into mutual funds. Then if you're we, we take, we say, you know, generosity is important so you're going to be needing to do 10% there. And let's just say yeah, now you're in baby steps five and six too. So you've got kids college and maybe you're paying extra towards the house. That could be another 10%. So now we're at 60% and we really haven't even gone on vacation. We haven't just been living life. So you see that the money goes very quickly. And that's why 25% makes it to where that house is a blessing and not a burden. And when you start creeping above that, you will find especially, especially depending on season of life, you will find that it's too tight to make everything work."
(01:00)
Speaker B underscores that allocating a higher percentage to housing can constrain funds available for investments, charitable giving, future educational expenses, and essential living costs, ultimately making the mortgage a financial burden rather than a blessing.
Speaker A reinforces the necessity of adhering to fixed mortgage percentages regardless of income levels:
"No, Tariq, a sliding scale would not be appropriate. A percentage is appropriate because a sliding scale would make the assumption that you're going to keep the stupid mortgage. I want you to pay off the stupid mortgage. And if you keep the percentages down, you can pay off the stupid mortgage. We're not keeping it. It's not a pet, we're not trying to manage our debt. We're trying to freaking kill it. So that changes the discussion. Dude. If you want to keep it around like a pet, then a sliding scale would be applicable. But wealthy people don't do that. Wealthy people pay off their mortgage as told to us in the data when we studied more millionaires than anyone else has ever studied in the Ramsey research project. They pay off their mortgage fast. They don't keep it around and manage it. So now you just want a bigger house. That's all it is. No."
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Speaker A vehemently opposes the idea of a sliding scale, arguing that maintaining a strict mortgage payment percentage is crucial to eliminating debt swiftly. He emphasizes that wealthy individuals prioritize paying off their mortgages rather than managing them as ongoing liabilities.
Continuing the discussion, Speaker B elaborates on how a higher mortgage impacts various aspects of financial planning:
"Yeah, because you're just looking at the numbers and you're going, $12,000. I'll still have $12,000. That's a lot of money. But you're not thinking about all of the other things that you will need to do with that."
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He highlights that while a large income might mask the immediate impact of higher mortgage payments, it neglects the broader financial obligations and future planning necessities that must be accounted for.
Speaker A reiterates the importance of aggressive debt repayment over residual income allocation:
"Throw that money at the debt. So you kill the debt."
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He advocates for directing surplus income towards eliminating debt entirely, ensuring financial freedom and the ability to build wealth without the constraints of ongoing mortgage obligations.
The episode concludes with a clear stance on the matter:
Maintain Housing Costs at 25%: Regardless of income levels, keeping mortgage payments around a quarter of take-home pay ensures that housing remains affordable and does not impede other financial goals.
Avoid Sliding Scales: Fixed percentages are recommended over flexible scales to promote disciplined debt repayment and prevent mortgages from becoming long-term financial burdens.
Comprehensive Financial Planning: High-income earners must consider all aspects of their financial landscape, including investments, charitable contributions, education, and lifestyle expenses, to maintain overall financial health.
Debt Elimination: Prioritizing the elimination of mortgage debt fosters wealth accumulation and financial stability, aligning with the Ramsey Network's principles of debt-free living.
Notable Quotes:
Speaker B:
"...the money goes very quickly. And that's why 25% is yeah. It makes it to where that house is a blessing and not a burden."
(01:00)
Speaker A:
"A percentage is appropriate because a sliding scale would make the assumption that you're going to keep the stupid mortgage."
(02:11)
Speaker A:
"Throw that money at the debt. So you kill the debt."
(03:27)
This episode serves as a compelling reminder that regardless of income levels, disciplined financial practices, particularly concerning housing costs and debt management, are essential for sustained financial well-being and wealth creation.