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Marley
I am a woman in my 40s and I already had some assets and investments in place before starting to prioritize being debt free. Like, over the years, I've built like a comfortable, stable life. I don't make a ton of money, but I make good financial decisions.
Chris Hogan
Overall.
Marley
I'm really proud of where I am, but I keep hitting the same issue where I get into a relationship. And for me, marriage is not on the table. I don't want to be married, but I also don't want to be alone.
Dave Ramsey
Tell me. Wait a second. All right, we need at least a few seconds on this deal. What, you want a relationship, but you don't want to get married? What's the, what's the barrier there?
Marley
I watched my mom and my dad and my. They are wonderful people. My dad was a good provider, but it made me unable to trust anyone else with my financial well being. Like, I always need to take care of that for me. I need to have autonomy for that.
Randy
Did someone do I just do you.
Marley
Wrong in my life? Being able to put my financial well being in someone else's.
Dave Ramsey
Is that because of how your dad treated your mom?
Marley
Oh, no, he, I mean, he didn't give her a lot of like, equality and equity. He was a good provider. They had a decent relationship for what they were taught in their generation.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, but you came out of that generation. But because of that, you use that as the context to say, as a result, I don't ever want to rely on a husband for financial safety.
Marley
Correct. Correct. I'm. I am going to be independent and take care of myself and then, you know, build that life. But, but you want a relationship, monogamous, long term relationship.
Randy
So what you're, what you're looking for is companionship. That's what you're looking for.
Marley
Right?
Randy
And you would have companion.
Dave Ramsey
Well, how's that working out?
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Dave Ramsey
Well, how's that working out?
Marley
I Mean, it always worked out well for a while.
Dave Ramsey
How long?
Marley
And eventually they want to wife me. Like, I don't know. I.
Randy
Well, that's all you're going to get. I mean, you have to. Here's the thing. I'm just going to shoot you straight as your friend. If you say to somebody, I want companionship from you, there's no commitment there. And so that person has the ability to say, yeah, I'll hang with you as long as this works out for me. And then when it no longer works out for me, they can, they can cut you loose. That's what you're giving them permission to do. So you kind of have to know that if that's what you want to do, you probably every five, six years, or maybe you might get a decade out of somebody.
Dave Ramsey
Well, that's what I want to know.
Randy
Switching over to somebody else.
Marley
And I'm okay with that.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, you are.
Marley
If I am clear about what's on the table and they don't believe me, which I tend to find is the case, they think, oh, I'll change her mind.
Randy
Sure, sure, sure.
Marley
Like, I don't have children. Everybody always said, oh, she'll change her mind. Guess what?
Randy
So you're sad you're breaking up with these guys and they're sad. You feel like you're a heartbreaker and you're like, why am I a heartbreaker? I told you this from the beginning.
Marley
I just feel like I was clear about my expectations. And eventually they either. The only time that I feel I need to end the relationship, like if it is financially oriented, is when they say, either you give me access to your accounts or I can't be with you. And I say, okay, then we're not together.
Dave Ramsey
How many times is this, how many times has this happened where you have broken off a relationship because the guy wanted to get married?
Marley
2.
Dave Ramsey
And how old are you, if I may ask?
Marley
I'm in my 40s.
Dave Ramsey
You're in your 40s. And has it been really heartbreaking, any of these? Have they been gut wrenchingly hard, even though you stuck to your principle? I'll give you that. Has it been really hard on you?
Marley
I mean, there's obviously emotional strife, but when I look back on it, it's not a level of regret that I feel like, oh, I missed out on something good.
Randy
All right, great.
Dave Ramsey
So what's your question?
Randy
Yeah, what's the question? Because my thing is, like, I'll meet you where you're at. If you're. If, like, I never want to get married. Fine. I. At this point, I think it's just setting proper expectations and knowing.
Dave Ramsey
I have a suggestion later that I want you to consider. Marley. But I don't want to get in way of what you called for. What did you call for?
Marley
Well, what is the appropriate structure, Because I know for the whole Ramsey thing is that when you're married, you're one.
Randy
Yeah. If you're not married. If you're not married. Don't combine it.
Marley
Exactly. And so what is an appropriate way to execute that? Not on the table.
Dave Ramsey
Execute what?
Randy
You're dating. You have to view everybody as somebody you're dating, which is my money is mine. I do whatever my plan is. I do my own thing and I'm with them as long as they'll be with me until they want to get married and I don't. And then they'll exit the scene and I will.
Dave Ramsey
Are you talking about like day to day expenses?
Marley
Yeah, like what's, what's. Because I've tried several roommates.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. It sounds to me like you're. Can I say this? You're roommates and you got some type of privileges that's between you and whoever, but your roommates. So that means you're splitting utilities, you're splitting the rent. I mean, that's what we would suggest because you're not married. And by the way, that's what you want anyway. Sounds like you don't want anybody to weigh in on your finances or contribute.
Marley
Or contribute back out. Perhaps it's more of a backing out of the romantic part of the relationship and just saying, like, knowing that the. The romantic part does have some. Like, you want to be fair, you want to be equitable. Like, you don't want to be having anybody feel like they're being taken advantage of.
Randy
Well, here.
Dave Ramsey
I'm so confused. Here's the thing.
Randy
The hard part is. The hard part is foundationally I see it differently. Because if you have love for someone at a certain level, especially at an intimate level, then you're wanting that intimacy to take place in other areas of the relationship as well. But you have blocks there. So there is. I'm just saying this again, as your buddy. There is going to be. Because of the way love works, there is going to be some dysfunction there with you having those barricades there and wanting basically to have everything a marriage has, but not having the marriage. It's like, I want all the benefits of this, but I don't want any of the risk of it. And that. I think that's what you're struggling with. And I. I'm going to tell you that's going to cause you issues. And. And it's going to cause confusion and like you said, to quote you, emotional strife. Because you're trying to execute. You're trying to take. Have your cake and eat it too. And it seems like you have a really good reason in your head for that. But I think that you're letting that reason become an excuse for you to really get the most out of this. I said it before that I wasn't going to try to convince you elsewise, and I'm not. But I would suggest you maybe getting to the bottom of that. Because to your point, you've seen relationships not work out well. But I guarantee you, you've seen them. You have seen them work out well. So, you know, it can go either way. And you have to ask yourself, what was the factor in that? What caused a relationship to go well or not go well? And is there any piece of control that you can have over that? I think yes. I think that marriages are successful every single day. And so there's part of that. That there could be more education or learning to go on that that could help you.
Dave Ramsey
You gotta redefine. You gotta redefine control, Marley. I thought I was gonna hear something far more traumatic. Maybe you didn't want to share it. Don't need you to share it.
Randy
Right.
Dave Ramsey
Something you witnessed has created a massive, massive hole of trust in your life. You just don't trust anybody. Not criticizing you here. You called in. I'm making a little quick analysis here to say that there is no way to structure these relationships with romance. And then a lack of trust around finance. You just can't do it. And what's going to happen, Marley. And you said you're okay with it, and you've signed up for it. Here was my suggestion. If you haven't done it before, I would get a really good therapist. And I would sit with a therapist long enough. And you got the money to do it. And I would dive into this to see if the therapist can help you get to the bottom of this lack of trust and then help you with tools to be able to deal with this trust. Because I think in the end, if you give it a shot for those of us. I've been married almost 28 years, so I'm not. I'm not selling something that I don't believe in. I just think that you can have that relationship that you long for and coexist with finances, but not until you can see the source of your lack of. A lack of trust. And I see that. I feel that. I hate that for you.
Randy
But.
Dave Ramsey
But I would give it a shot. I'd kick the tire. Since you've been in so many relationships and they haven't worked out, some to your detriment, romantically and emotionally, give it a shot. Like, get to the source of this before we jump back into another relationship. And I think it's worth it in the long run. Create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
Title: I Don't Want To Get Married, But I Don't Want To Be Alone
Podcast: The Ramsey Show Highlights
Date: January 21, 2026
Main Theme:
This episode centers around Marley, a woman in her 40s who has achieved financial stability and independence, but is struggling to reconcile her desire for companionship with her strong preference not to get married. The hosts—Dave Ramsey, Randy, and Chris Hogan—explore her predicament, what drives her choices, and how she might move forward while maintaining healthy boundaries around love and money.
“I am a woman in my 40s... I’m really proud of where I am, but I keep hitting the same issue where I get into a relationship. And for me, marriage is not on the table. I don’t want to be married, but I also don’t want to be alone.” —Marley [00:06]
Marley’s parental upbringing shaped her. Her father was a provider, but there was a lack of equality, which left her unable to trust anyone else with her financial well-being.
“He didn’t give her a lot of like, equality and equity... I always need to take care of that for me. I need to have autonomy for that.” —Marley [00:52]
Dave summarizes her position:
“You use that as the context to say, as a result, I don’t ever want to rely on a husband for financial safety.” —Dave Ramsey [01:31]
Marley describes a pattern: relationships last “for a while,” but eventually the other person wants marriage, leading to breakups.
“Eventually they want to wife me. Like, I don't know.” —Marley [02:41]
Randy lays out the dynamic:
“If you say to somebody, I want companionship from you, there’s no commitment there... So you kind of have to know that if that’s what you want to do, you probably every five, six years, or maybe you might get a decade out of somebody.” —Randy [02:52]
Marley admits she’s clear about her expectations, but partners often hope to change her mind.
“If I am clear about what’s on the table and they don’t believe me, which I tend to find is the case, they think, oh, I’ll change her mind.” —Marley [03:30]
“There’s obviously emotional strife, but when I look back on it, it’s not a level of regret that I feel like, oh, I missed out on something good.” —Marley [04:36]
Marley’s main question: How should she handle shared expenses or finances if she’s committed to not marrying?
“What is the appropriate structure...when you’re not married?” —Marley [05:05]
The Ramsey approach: Don’t combine finances if you aren’t married. Treat the arrangement like roommates—each partner manages their own money, and shared expenses (rent, utilities) are split.
“You’re roommates, and you got some type of privileges that’s between you and whoever, but you’re roommates...that means you’re splitting utilities, you’re splitting the rent.” —Dave Ramsey [05:50]
Randy emphasizes the challenge of wanting intimacy without the vulnerability and trust that marriage implies.
“Because if you have love for someone at a certain level, especially at an intimate level, then you’re wanting that intimacy to take place in other areas of the relationship as well. But you have blocks there... There is going to be some dysfunction there.” —Randy [06:36]
He warns Marley against “having your cake and eating it too,” noting she’s seeking marriage’s intimacy and benefits without the risks or vulnerabilities of true commitment.
“It’s like, I want all the benefits of this, but I don’t want any of the risk of it...you’re letting that reason become an excuse for you to really get the most out of this.” —Randy [07:21]
Dave Ramsey and Randy both suggest that Marley’s lack of trust, rooted in witnessing her parents’ dynamic, may be blocking her happiness in relationships.
“Something you witnessed has created a massive, massive hole of trust in your life. You just don’t trust anybody...there is no way to structure these relationships with romance, and then a lack of trust around finance. You just can’t do it.” —Dave Ramsey [08:26]
Dave’s advice:
“If you haven’t done it before, I would get a really good therapist...and I would dive into this to see if the therapist can help you get to the bottom of this lack of trust and then help you with tools to be able to deal with this trust.” —Dave Ramsey [08:44]
Final encouragement:
“I just think that you can have that relationship that you long for and coexist with finances, but not until you can see the source of your lack of trust. And I see that. I feel that. I hate that for you.” —Dave Ramsey [09:13]
On honesty in relationships:
“I just feel like I was clear about my expectations. And eventually they either...the only time that I feel I need to end the relationship, like if it is financially oriented, is when they say, either you give me access to your accounts or I can’t be with you. And I say, okay, then we’re not together.” —Marley [03:52]
On the importance of trust and intimacy:
“Because of the way love works, there is going to be some dysfunction there with you having those barricades there and wanting basically to have everything a marriage has, but not having the marriage.” —Randy [06:36]
The conversation is caring but direct—Dave and Randy are empathetic but emphasize practical realities over wishful thinking. The tone is honest, sometimes sobering, but with a spirit of support and encouragement for self-discovery and growth.
In Sum:
This episode delves deeply into the struggle of maintaining autonomy and trust in romantic relationships for someone with a history of financial self-reliance and emotional caution. The Ramsey team recommends pragmatic financial boundaries and, more importantly, encourages Marley to explore her trust issues with professional help, so she can find deeper happiness without compromising her principles.