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David
Well, I just lost my job, and I feel like I pay way too much in rent. I don't know really what to do.
Dave Ramsey
Wow. Why did you lose your job?
David
Being stupid. I slept in a lot.
Dave Ramsey
You couldn't seem to get to work. You couldn't seem to get to work on time?
David
Yeah, and I worked five feet away from where I slept.
Dave Ramsey
So you work from home?
David
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. All right. What were you doing?
David
I worked in a automotive BDC call center.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. How'd you get that job?
David
Just applying around. Got found on LinkedIn. They messaged me I was applying to everything, and I found a job that was a mile up the road from my house. So the. The office is here, but I didn't have a car for the longest time, so they let me work from home.
Dave Ramsey
What were you making?
David
12 an hour, so about 24,000 a year.
Dave Ramsey
Well, the bad news is you lost your job. The good news is you didn't lose much. Pretty much sucked as a job. Agreed.
David
Oh, yeah. I was being berated for $24,000 a year?
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. I mean, you can. You can make $20 an hour at Target, right? Do you have a car now?
David
Yes. It's kind of a junker, but it can get me from A to B.
Dave Ramsey
Get you from A to Target or Dick Sporting Goods, or name it, I don't care.
George
Almost any retailer is paying over 12.
Dave Ramsey
Making it up right now, and they're all short of help.
George
What's your rent?
David
8.95Amonth.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
George
You live in alone?
David
Utilities and everything included? Yes.
Dave Ramsey
How old are you?
David
20. How old am I? 24.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. All right. So you were doing auto loan collections. Is that what you were doing?
David
No. Service scheduling. So whenever you needed an oil change or had a check engine light on, I was the person you talked to.
Dave Ramsey
So why were you getting berated?
David
People when it comes to their car, if it's not done now, it's. It's a problem.
Dave Ramsey
Huh. Okay. All right.
David
And these were places in New York and all that I got you.
Dave Ramsey
It doesn't matter. People are jerks everywhere. I understand that. It's not just New York, but. All right, so, all right, you lost a crummy job that doesn't pay much. Can we agree on that?
David
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. But there's some shame on why you lost it, because it was due to a lack of personal energy and diligence. And so you're a little bit ashamed of that. Is that fair?
David
Absolutely.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. All Right. Because your voice has absolutely no energy in it. And that's what I'm trying to figure it out. It can't be because you lost this crummy job. The job sucked. But it could be because you feel bad.
David
I definitely feel bad.
Dave Ramsey
I mean, not trying to pick on you. I'm just trying to. I'm trying to feed back to you what George and I are hearing on the other end because we want to love you. Well. And help you get moving. Because I don't want you going in for a job interview sounding like Eeyore. Do you know who Eeyore is?
David
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. Yeah. I want. I want a level of enthusiasm. I want you to get caffeinated before you go in. Okay.
George
Has it been like this your whole adult life, David? Just kind of lack of purpose? No real spark, Just kind of going through the motions? Or was there a time where you were lit up, fired up?
David
I was definitely fired up. When I worked, I was in a pretty nice job. I made just barely more than I made at the call center. But I was working for a giant manufacturing company. I don't know if you've heard of them, link belt cranes.
George
But what do you want to be doing, David? Have you ever taken a moment to think, here's where I want to be five, ten years from now. Here's the kind of career field I want to be in?
David
I mean, I'd love automotive repair, but I don't know where to start. I can't save money to save my life. I'm down to basically $0.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, well, you haven't made any money. That's part of the problem. I mean, when you're making $2000, your take home pays 1500 and your rent's 895, you not got any margin in this budget. So I don't think you're horrible at money. I just don't think you made any money. So we're. That's why George is poking around on the income side of your equation. Okay.
David
So another issue is I've been applying for. I mean, I knew it was a terrible job. I've been applying for about six months and nobody seems to want to take me.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, that's probably because of the way you are applying, not because it's a personal thing, like David is not worthy. Okay. Because honestly, if you get up and brush your teeth and comb your hair and take a bath and you go down to Target or whoever, down the street at the mall and start walking from store to store to store and ask to Speak to the manager and have a little bit of sparkle in your eye, a little spring in your step, and a firm handshake and a smile. You'll get hired by the end of the day, David, at $20 an hour. There's. That stuff is out there. It is everywhere. Okay?
George
And that might be a.
Dave Ramsey
You have to leave the house. You can't sit and apply by computer on LinkedIn. That's just not gonna work. Let me give you an example of why. Okay? At Ramsey, we have about 1100 folks at our company here, all right? We took 15,000 job applications last year. We hired about, I don't know, 700 people, 600 people? No, no, we didn't hire that many. 400 people. Anyway, nothing out of 15,000, right? So how did those 400 get out of that stack of 15,000? It wasn't by email and it wasn't through LinkedIn. They did something that got them in the door. And one of the things they did is what Ken Coleman calls the proximity principle. So you have to stand up and leave the apartment every day at 8am dressed and ready for work, smiling, teeth brushed and hair combed until you get a job in the next three days. And in the next three days, if you do that, leaving at 8am Go talk to people in the auto repair business. Go talk to people in these big box stores. Go talk to anyone that will talk to you about hiring you. And be nice and kind and show up on time and never be late the rest of your life. Learn that lesson. The bad news is you had to learn it. The good news is you got the rest of your life to not relearn it. So, yeah, get out there and get it done, man. Now, once you get that going, then we need to step up and do what George is talking about and start dreaming about what we want to be. I don't want you to be an auto repair. I want you to own 17 auto repair centers and be worth $8 million 20 years from today. But you gotta decide. I'm gonna aim at that and I'm gonna go do what it takes and scrap and claw to get that done. And that requires energy and enthusiasm and believing you can do it. Hang on. I'm gonna send you a copy of Ken's book, the Proximity Principle, and another one. Find the work you're wired to do that has an assessment in it that'll help you start dreaming big. But in the meantime, go get some eating money today. Create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your.
The Ramsey Show Highlights: "I Lost My Job For Being Stupid"
Release Date: April 3, 2025
In the episode titled "I Lost My Job For Being Stupid," The Ramsey Show Highlights delves into the challenges faced by David, a young professional who recently lost his job due to performance issues. Hosted by the Ramsey Network and featuring insights from Dave Ramsey and George Kamel, this episode offers practical advice on job hunting, personal accountability, and financial management.
Timestamp [00:06]
David reaches out to the show expressing his frustration after losing his job. He states:
"I just lost my job, and I feel like I pay way too much in rent. I don't know really what to do." ([00:06])
David acknowledges his role in the job loss, attributing it to his own lack of diligence:
"Being stupid. I slept in a lot." ([00:22])
At 24 years old, David was working from home in an automotive BDC call center, earning approximately $24,000 annually. His rent amounted to $895 per month, consuming a significant portion of his modest income.
Timestamp [03:05]
Dave Ramsey addresses the core issue behind David's job loss, highlighting personal responsibility:
"But there's some shame on why you lost it, because it was due to a lack of personal energy and diligence. And so you're a little bit ashamed of that. Is that fair?" ([03:16])
David confirms his feelings of shame and guilt:
"Absolutely." ([03:17])
Ramsey emphasizes the importance of personal energy and enthusiasm in maintaining employment:
"I want you to get caffeinated before you go in." ([03:54])
George Kamel probes deeper into David's life, questioning whether this lack of purpose is a long-standing issue or a recent development.
Timestamp [02:04] & [05:01]
David reveals his financial constraints, mentioning his inability to save:
"I can't save money to save my life. I'm down to basically $0." ([04:31])
Ramsey breaks down David's budget, pointing out the lack of financial margin:
"Your take home pays 1500 and your rent's 895, you not got any margin in this budget." ([05:01])
He reassures David that the issue isn't poor money management but rather insufficient income. Ramsey recommends creating a budget using the EveryDollar app:
"Create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your." ([05:53])
Timestamp [05:14] - [05:53]
David has been applying for jobs for six months without success, prompting Ramsey to critique his job application approach:
"That's probably because of the way you are applying, not because it's a personal thing, like David is not worthy." ([05:14])
Ramsey advocates for a proactive and personal approach to job searching:
"Get up and brush your teeth and comb your hair and take a bath and you go down to Target or whoever, down the street at the mall and start walking from store to store to store and ask to Speak to the manager." ([05:47])
He introduces the concept of the Proximity Principle, inspired by Ken Coleman, emphasizing the importance of physically placing oneself in the vicinity of potential employers.
Timestamp [04:23] - [05:53]
David reflects on his past job at a manufacturing company, Link-Belt Cranes, where he felt more engaged despite similar earnings to his current position.
Ramsey encourages David to think beyond his immediate job troubles and envision a long-term career path:
"I don't want you to be an auto repair. I want you to own 17 auto repair centers and be worth $8 million 20 years from today." ([05:28])
He stresses the necessity of ambition coupled with actionable steps and unwavering dedication to achieve such goals.
Personal Accountability: Acknowledge and take responsibility for past mistakes to foster personal growth. ([03:05] - [03:17])
Financial Management: Utilize budgeting tools like EveryDollar to gain control over finances, especially when income is limited. ([05:01], [05:53])
Proactive Job Searching: Move beyond online applications by physically visiting potential workplaces, showcasing enthusiasm, and making personal connections. ([05:14] - [05:54])
Long-Term Vision: Set ambitious career goals and develop a clear plan to achieve them, ensuring sustained motivation and direction. ([04:23] - [05:28])
Energy and Enthusiasm: Maintain a positive and energetic demeanor during job interviews and workplace interactions to leave a lasting impression. ([03:54], [05:47])
In this episode of The Ramsey Show Highlights, David's experience underscores the critical interplay between personal responsibility, financial prudence, and proactive job seeking. Dave Ramsey and George Kamel provide a blend of empathy and tough love, guiding David—and listeners alike—toward actionable solutions that not only address immediate challenges but also pave the way for long-term success.
For more insights and daily doses of life and money advice, tune into The Ramsey Show Highlights, delivered seven days a week by the Ramsey Network.