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George
I am in about $19,000 worth of debt. I have about $25,000 invested in a mutual fund. I recently moved out to Knoxville from Albuquerque and I'm just trying to get some clarity on what I should do next. I'm only making about $3,000 a month out here in Knoxville. I'm a personal trainer at a gym and I, me and my girlfriend that I came out here to support, we're going through a breakup right now and just trying to figure some things out.
Christina
So you moved all the way to Knoxville doing the personal training thing. Not making too. Too much. But what's your point of staying there if. If did you go just for the relationship or is there any other reason you're there?
George
Yeah, pretty much just for the relationship. Her and I are still living together, trying to work things out, but it' not super clear on if that's going to happen. But I'm just trying to do some growth as a man right now. So I told everybody I'm going to be out here for a year. I'm going to help her get through PA school. And I'm still trying to stick to that even though. And I'm not like. Like a stalker or anything, like staying out.
Dave Ramsey
No, that's. That's bull.
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George
Here.
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Dave Ramsey
That's bull. You absolutely do not need to help somebody get through PA school that you broke up with. And you don't need to live in the same house with somebody you broke up with.
Christina
Yeah. What's that mean? Help her get through PA school? Are you paying for it?
Dave Ramsey
You don't do that unless you're married emotionally.
George
Making sure all the things around the house are done. Just interesting. All those things. Yeah. And we broke up maybe a month and a half, two months ago.
Dave Ramsey
But you still live there.
George
Yeah, I. We.
Dave Ramsey
You know how weird that sounds?
Christina
It's weird.
George
Yeah.
Christina
You wouldn't. It's weird. All of it. Yeah. I would move out immediately, basically. If you can, like, get out of there, you guys need to separate your living situation.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, wait a minute. I'm so confused because I'm old, so I don't understand this stuff. But, like, I've been married 43 years, so I don't know how to do what you're doing. But. So I don't know how you go through it. You either are together or you're broken up. I don't know how. You kind of stand in the middle with one foot on the boat and one on the dock and the boat's leaving, you're just going to get wet. So I. Am I missing. I mean, listen. So I think it's probably healthy for you to make a call. Are you done with this relationship, Christopher?
George
I don't want to be.
Dave Ramsey
I didn't ask that. I said, are you done with this relationship?
George
No, sir.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. Is she?
George
No, sir.
Dave Ramsey
Then why are you telling me you're broke up?
George
Because we are not technically boyfriend and girlfriend anymore.
Christina
But here's. Do you.
Dave Ramsey
That's kind of like being done with the relationship, dude.
Christina
And here's the problem. You've created all of these high stakes that are. That are causing you to make decisions you might not otherwise make. If you were just dating somebody and you lived in your house and she lived in hers, and you lived in the state that you wanted to and you didn't follow her somewhere. The things that happen in the relationship, you could very clearly filter them as what they are. But now the stakes are high. You've moved all the way out here, you're sharing a residence. So it's not as easy to look at a situation and go, that's not for me. I'm gonna hightail it out of here. Now you have to think about where you're going to live. Are you going to stay in this state? What about rent? What about this? Do you see how it makes something that should have been so simple very, very complex with a lot of weighted stakes?
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. So I think you're going back to Albuquerque.
Christina
I do, too.
George
Okay. I appreciate you guys.
Dave Ramsey
Thanks for the call.
Christina
Sorry, man.
Dave Ramsey
I don't. I don't. I don't know what he's doing, but I think he should do that.
Christina
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
I don't know what he's going to do. I can't tell anything.
Christina
He should go back. He should not go back home. Just go back to Albuquerque.
Dave Ramsey
That is home. But. Well, not home home. But. Yeah, yeah.
Christina
Not to Mama's house is what I'm saying.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. Do the man thing, have your own place, pay your own bills, work like a person. All that kind of stuff that do. Do the man thing and stand alone and then you'll like you better and the next time you go into a relationship, you'll be a different person.
Christina
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Dave Ramsey
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Christina
That's right.
Dave Ramsey
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Podcast Summary: The Ramsey Show Highlights
Episode Title: I Moved Across The Country For My Girlfriend (Then She Dumped Me)
Host: Ramsey Network
Release Date: May 30, 2025
Introduction
In this episode of The Ramsey Show Highlights, George reaches out seeking guidance after making a significant life decision that hasn't panned out as he hoped. With $19,000 in debt and $25,000 invested in a mutual fund, George recently relocated from Albuquerque to Knoxville to support his girlfriend's pursuit of PA school. However, as their relationship deteriorates, George finds himself grappling with financial and emotional uncertainty. Host Dave Ramsey, along with guest Christina, delve into George's predicament, offering practical advice and emotional support.
George’s Situation
George's Call-In Details ([00:06])
George begins by outlining his current financial and personal circumstances:
Reasons for Moving ([00:38] - [02:02])
Christina probes deeper into George’s motives for relocating:
Christina ([00:38]):
"So you moved all the way to Knoxville doing the personal training thing. Not making too much. But what's your point of staying there if. If did you go just for the relationship or is there any other reason you're there?"
George admits that his primary reason was the relationship:
George ([00:51]):
"Yeah, pretty much just for the relationship. Her and I are still living together, trying to work things out, but it’s not super clear if that's going to happen."
He emphasizes his commitment to personal growth and helping his girlfriend through PA school, despite the unclear future of their relationship.
Hosts’ Analysis and Advice
Dave Ramsey’s Initial Assessment ([01:18] - [01:59])
Dave expresses skepticism about George’s entanglement post-breakup:
Dave Ramsey ([01:18]):
"No, that's bull. You absolutely do not need to help somebody get through PA school that you broke up with. And you don't need to live in the same house with somebody you broke up with."
He challenges the rationale behind staying in the same household after the relationship has soured, emphasizing the emotional and financial complications this creates.
Christina’s Perspective ([02:02] - [04:06])
Christina elaborates on the complexities George faces:
Christina ([02:06]):
"If you were just dating somebody and you lived in your house and she lived in hers, and you lived in the state that you wanted to and you didn't follow her somewhere. The things that happen in the relationship, you could very clearly filter them as what they are."
She highlights how shared living arrangements elevate the stakes, making it harder to make clear, independent decisions about the future.
Dave Ramsey’s Confusion and Probing ([03:06] - [04:22])
Dave seeks clarity on the status of the relationship:
Dave Ramsey ([03:06]):
"Are you done with this relationship, Christopher?"
George clarifies that the relationship isn't entirely over but acknowledges the separation:
George ([03:19]):
"Because we are not technically boyfriend and girlfriend anymore."
Dave and Christina press George on the inconsistencies, reinforcing the need for definitive action to avoid emotional and financial entanglement.
Christina’s Strong Recommendation ([04:06] - [04:31])
Christina strongly advises George to relocate back to Albuquerque:
Christina ([04:12]):
"He should go back. He should not go back home. Just go back to Albuquerque."
She emphasizes the importance of establishing independence:
Christina ([04:31]):
"Do the man thing, have your own place, pay your own bills, work like a person."
Key Takeaways
Financial Responsibility Post-Breakup: Maintaining financial independence is crucial when a relationship ends. Shared debts or financial entanglements can complicate or prolong the fallout.
Emotional Well-being: Living with an ex-partner can hinder emotional healing and personal growth. Establishing separate living arrangements facilitates clearer decision-making and greater personal stability.
Personal Growth and Independence: Prioritizing personal development and self-sufficiency prepares individuals for healthier future relationships.
Clarity in Relationships: Clear and definitive communication about the status of a relationship helps both parties make informed decisions about their futures.
Notable Quotes
George on Commitment ([00:51]):
"...I'm just trying to do some growth as a man right now. So I told everybody I'm going to be out here for a year. I'm going to help her get through PA school."
Dave Ramsey on Indecisiveness ([01:59]):
"You either are together or you're broken up. I don't know how you kind of stand in the middle with one foot on the boat and one on the dock and the boat's leaving, you're just going to get wet." ([02:00])
Christina on Relationship Stakes ([02:02]):
"...you have to think about where you're going to live. Are you going to stay in this state? What about rent?" ([02:31])
Christina’s Strong Advice ([04:19]):
"He should not go back home. Just go back to Albuquerque." ([04:22])
Conclusion
In this episode, George's call sheds light on the intertwined challenges of financial obligations and personal relationships. Dave Ramsey and Christina guide him toward prioritizing his financial health and personal well-being by recommending a separation from his ex-partner’s household. The discussion underscores the importance of clear boundaries and independence in navigating both financial and emotional landscapes post-breakup.
For more insights and daily advice on life and money, tune into The Ramsey Show Highlights, where experts provide actionable strategies to help you achieve financial freedom and personal growth.