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Kim
Have been helping my mom out monthly with expenses, actually her and her husband and they have not made changes in their life to try to be able to pay their own expenses. And, and I'm just getting to the point of complete frustration and whether I should continue to give her money or, you know, how to handle this without ruining our relationship.
George
How much money you've been given?
Kim
Well, I'm in a unique position where my mom also works for me. I have a firm and she works part time and I just try to keep her busy and you know, and I do give her extra money and bonuses there.
George
How much? Hold on, hold on. You sound like a politician on a Sunday morning show. So I'm going to go back to the question. How much money? I don't care how you're giving it. I don't even care where it's coming from. I would just like to know, and I think George does too, how much money are you giving them and have you given them?
Kim
Well, on a monthly basis, I would say it averages around 12 to 1500amonth. And over a period of time I've kind of lost track, but I would say probably somewhere over 10,000 extra over the last year or so.
George
Okay, one other quick follow up. If this employee was not your mom, would you be bonusing that employee to the level that you're bonusing that employee?
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George
If this employee was not your mom, would you be bonusing that employee to the level that you're bonusing that employee?
Kim
No, I probably would have let that employee go already because I had a suspicion.
George
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my short answer is no. I mean, excuse me. Yes, you should stop giving them money. Sorry? You should stop giving them money.
Dr. John
You asked about their behavior like, well, they're not changing and well, they have direct access to the bank of Kim.
George
Would they change?
Dr. John
What onus do they have to change? Their life when they have it. Good.
George
Yeah.
Dr. John
So part of this.
Kim
And they both, they both get Social Security. And he lost his job in September, but isn't very actively looking well, guess.
George
Who needs to get active again.
Dr. John
Why would he. When he gets unemployment checks from Kim. So this is. How old are they? Are they able to work?
Kim
My mom is 78, so she's older with some health issues. And he is 68.
George
Oh, dude's a spring chicken. And he's living off a sugar mama and that happens to be your mama. You need to remove the sugar and then mama will push him out the door. He needs to get a job. 68. He needs to be working.
Dr. John
And they're straight broke. It sounds like this is the reason you're helping them is because you felt bad. It started off as a, hey, I'll help you out this month and then the next month, and then nothing's changed. Is this been going on for a year now? How long?
Kim
This has been going on and on and off for several years, depending on their financial situation. They barely make ends meet. They get down to $10 in the bank. She's crying.
George
It.
Kim
It's.
Dr. John
What is their total income without you involved.
Kim
Let's see that. Without me completely not involved, I would say it was around 2400amonth.
Dr. John
And what are their expenses? Are they living on their own? Do they have debt?
Kim
They do live on their own. They rent a home. Their expenses are probably 5 to 800 more than what they make.
Dr. John
Okay, okay. So you're telling me 2,900 bucks could solve this and they make 2400.
Kim
Right?
George
Yeah.
Dr. John
So you're telling me a 68 year old can't work and make 500 extra bucks a month?
Kim
Evidently not.
George
Well, no. You find out. You know that's not true.
Dr. John
We're about to find out.
George
Yeah. This.
Kim
You.
George
You're already borderline resenting your mom. If not.
Kim
I am. And. And I, and I don't want to get to that funny situation I know is getting bad and very frustrating.
George
So the reason I'm bringing that up.
Kim
Please come up with a plan.
George
They're not going to. And you know why? There's no reason for them to innovate. So I don't know if you've ever studied innovation. You run a business. You probably have read some books on innovation. You probably talked about innovation, and you yourself have probably had to innovate before. But what's so fun about innovation is, is the research shows that innovation is at its most effective when someone has very little resource it's just amazing how creative we humans can be at problem solving when we don't have much resource and we just have to figure it out. Does that resonate with you, Kim?
Kim
It does. Yeah.
George
Well, guess what? They don't have a plan. And they're not going to come up with a plan because they're not squeezed into a corner. But you put them in a corner, and it's going to be shocking how quickly Sparky will get to work.
Kim
Yeah.
George
And he needs to get to work. And so the reason I bring up the resentment piece is this. Your mother's 78. Hope she lives 10, 15, 20 years. Okay. But I have aging parents right now. They're in their mid-70s. And I just think if I were you, I would be more worried about the limited time I have left with my mom being soured by this codependent situation that you've allowed yourself to get into. And you aren't a bad person, Kim. You are a phenomenal person and a phenomenal daughter. Make no mistake about it. But I'm trying to encourage you to say the person that I know you to be is going to want to have a nice twilight season of relationship with her mom. And the only chance of that happening is if you go, mom, I can't do this anymore. And lay it out very clearly, why. But be okay with her not being okay with it. But the alternative is way worse till you get to a point one day where you snap at her, say something that hurts her or. Or you cut her off altogether, and it's ugly. I just think there's pain on both sides of this. One is a rip off the band aid, quick sting pain, which is cutting them off now and telling mom why. The other one is that, George, that deep surgery, a lot of therapy afterwards.
Dr. John
Oh, yeah.
George
You know, there's a lot here.
Dr. John
Has this been going on her whole adult life?
Kim
There's been a lot of situations in the past that, yeah, she has made very poor decisions and. And needs to be bailed out here and there. And. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's a. It's an underlying theme.
George
Yeah.
Dr. John
And that it's much harder to turn this around at 78 years old than it is 38 years old. So this is not going to be an easy road, whether it's stopping giving her money or firing her as your employee. But I want to see if she needs to work. She needs to work. I don't want you to do this out of pity for her, to give her a paycheck. I want her to have a sense of independence, I would at least, I.
George
Would at least cut the bonuses. She knows she's being paid for at least subpar work. Your words, not mine. But, but I can live with that. And I think that eases this. But the bonuses go away starting today. And then her husband who I've been affectionately calling Sparky. Sparky McSparkless. That's his new name. Sparky McSparkless. He needs to get out and get a job.
Dr. John
Yeah, he's 10 years younger. So he's got 10 years more energy than she does at least.
George
Yeah, man, I got no sympathy for him on that deal. So sorry about this, Kim, but we're thinking about your long term situation. I want that relationship to be great in her twilight season. Thank you for calling.
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Summary of "I Resent My Mom's Deadbeat Husband" – The Ramsey Show Highlights
Release Date: July 19, 2025
In the episode titled "I Resent My Mom's Deadbeat Husband," hosted by George from The Ramsey Network, Kim shares her struggles with financially supporting her mother and her mother's husband. The discussion revolves around the complexities of financial assistance within family dynamics, the implications of co-dependence, and strategies for establishing healthier boundaries to preserve personal relationships.
Kim initiates the conversation by expressing her frustration over repeatedly helping her mother and her mother's husband with monthly expenses. Despite her continuous support, neither has taken steps to manage their finances independently, pushing Kim to a point of resentment. She seeks advice on whether to continue providing financial assistance without damaging her relationship with her mother.
Kim [00:12]: "I've been helping my mom out monthly with expenses, actually her and her husband and they have not made changes in their life to try to be able to pay their own expenses. And, and I'm just getting to the point of complete frustration and whether I should continue to give her money or, you know, how to handle this without ruining our relationship."
George probes deeper into the specifics of Kim's financial contributions to understand the extent of the support she's providing.
George [00:37]: "How much money you've been given?"
Kim reveals that her support averages between $1,200 to $1,500 monthly, accumulating over $10,000 in the past year alone. Additionally, Kim employs her mother part-time, offering extra money and bonuses, which complicates the financial dynamics.
Kim [01:13]: "Well, on a monthly basis, I would say it averages around 12 to 1500 a month. And over a period of time I've kind of lost track, but I would say probably somewhere over 10,000 extra over the last year or so."
George challenges Kim by asking if she would provide the same level of financial support to a non-family employee.
George [01:13]: "If this employee was not your mom, would you be bonusing that employee to the level that you're bonusing that employee?"
Kim confesses she would likely have terminated the employment, highlighting the differential treatment due to familial ties.
Kim [02:27]: "No, I probably would have let that employee go already because I had a suspicion."
George firmly advises Kim to stop providing financial support.
George [02:43]: "Yes, you should stop giving them money."
Dr. John Delony joins the conversation to delve into the behavioral aspects contributing to the stagnant financial situation of Kim's mother and her husband. He questions their motivation to change, given their financial dependency on Kim.
Dr. John [02:47]: "What onus do they have to change? Their life when they have it."
Kim elaborates that both receive Social Security, and her mother's husband, aged 68, ceased actively seeking employment after losing his job in September.
Kim [03:16]: "And he is 68."
George critiques her mother's husband (affectionately dubbed "Sparky McSparkless") for not seeking employment despite being relatively young.
George [03:16]: "He’s 68. He needs to be working."
Dr. John emphasizes the ongoing cycle of financial dependency, noting that Kim has been intermittently supporting them for several years without any substantial improvement.
Kim [03:42]: "This has been going on and on and off for several years, depending on their financial situation."
A detailed financial analysis reveals that without Kim's assistance, the family's income stands at approximately $2,400 monthly, while their expenses exceed their income by $500 to $800. This shortfall underscores the unsustainable nature of their financial habits.
Dr. John [04:19]: "They do live on their own. They rent a home. Their expenses are probably 5 to 800 more than what they make."
George points out the irony in the situation, questioning why a relatively healthy 68-year-old is unable to generate an additional $500 monthly.
George [04:32]: "So you're telling me a 68 year old can't work and make 500 extra bucks a month?"
Kim acknowledges her growing resentment and her desire to prevent the relationship from deteriorating further.
Kim [04:43]: "I am. And... I don't want to get to that funny situation I know is getting bad and very frustrating."
George introduces the concept of innovation under pressure, suggesting that placing her parents in a financially constrained situation will compel them to devise a plan to overcome their challenges.
George [05:27]: "They don't have a plan. And they're not going to come up with a plan because they're not squeezed into a corner."
He underscores the importance of setting boundaries now to preserve the relationship during the limited time he has left with his own aging parents.
George [05:42]: "You're already borderline resenting your mom... Make no mistake about it. ... the only chance of that happening is if you go, mom, I can't do this anymore."
Dr. John adds that it is more difficult to alter long-standing financial behaviors in older adults compared to younger individuals, emphasizing the need for a thoughtful and perhaps therapeutic approach.
Dr. John [07:16]: "And that it's much harder to turn this around at 78 years old than it is 38 years old."
George recommends cutting bonuses and stopping financial support immediately to encourage her parents to seek independence.
George [07:38]: "Would at least cut the bonuses. ... Sparky... He needs to get out and get a job."
George highlights the emotional toll of co-dependence, advising Kim to prioritize a healthy, sustainable relationship with her mother over ongoing financial support that breeds resentment.
George [05:28]: "I just think there's pain on both sides of this."
He stresses that confronting the issue now, despite the immediate discomfort, will prevent more significant relational damage in the future.
George [06:50]: "The alternative is way worse till you get to a point one day where you snap at her, say something that hurts her or. Or you cut her off altogether, and it's ugly."
The episode concludes with both George and Dr. John reinforcing the necessity for Kim to establish clear financial and emotional boundaries with her parents. By ceasing financial support and encouraging her mother and her husband to seek independence, Kim can preserve her relationship with her mother and foster a healthier dynamic moving forward.
George [08:21]: "So sorry about this, Kim, but we're thinking about your long term situation. I want that relationship to be great in her twilight season."
Boundaries are Essential: Establishing clear financial and emotional boundaries is crucial in preventing co-dependence and preserving personal relationships.
Encouraging Independence: Financial assistance without conditions can perpetuate dependency; encouraging self-sufficiency fosters healthier dynamics.
Managing Emotions: Addressing financial disputes within the family requires balancing practical solutions with emotional sensitivity to maintain relationships.
Long-Term Relationships: Taking decisive action now can prevent more significant relational issues in the future, ensuring a better quality of relationship in later years.
This episode offers valuable insights into navigating the complexities of financial support within family structures, emphasizing the importance of boundaries, independence, and emotional well-being.