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Today's question comes from Andrea in Arkansas. My husband's mom inherited the family hunting ranch. Oh, I would love to get this call one day. Which is worth about a million dollars. My husband and I pay most of the expenses. We use our personal equipment to maintain it and we are the ones who schedule and host hunters. I also handle all the bookkeeping. Andrea, call me. So I told my mother in law that an LLC needs to be created for the amount of business we do. She met with her attorney and now the ranch is now only in hers and my husband's name. I feel like she's trying to cause a rift between my husband and me. I'm trying not to judge their family history, but every one of the other four kids are divorced. This seems to be her way of creating an easy way out of it if we were to divorce. My husband and I have a strong relationship and he assures me not to worry because this will change nothing in our marriage. But I'm the one doing all the leg work and hoping this doesn't mess up our relationship. Am I wrong for voicing my opinion in this matter? What happens if my husband unexpectedly passed away? We have two questions. We have two kids that will need to be cared for and we earn nothing from the ranch.
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That those last four words tell me a whole lot. We are. That's really the resentment. She's putting a whole lot of work in. She's getting $0 for it and her name's not attached to it. So there seems to be. That's all playing into this picture.
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Yeah, there's a. This is a mess.
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They use their personal equipment to maintain it. They're the ones scheduling doing all that. She's doing the bookkeeping and she's the one handling telling the mother in law to meet with this person. And I personally don't know the full story. I don't know if the mother in law is being malicious. If this is really a strategic move. This was inherited family land and property.
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Right.
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That she inherited. So there. The. The daughter in law doesn't have a right to this land even though she's doing work for. For this property.
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Right. And I. Yeah. So there's multiple things happening here. I think, George, I think one of them is you're running a business that doesn't make any money. Stop. Stop running a business that doesn't make money.
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Who is making the money? That's the question.
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The only thing I could think of.
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We earn Nothing. So like the husband, she's not getting anything. The husband's not. Is mom making all the money?
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Yeah. So if husband is using all of his tools and stuff like that to help because he wants to help out mom and he's the one good kid. He's the. All the other kids are divorced and causing problems and he's the one good kid. So he's just going to dump some money into this thing. That's. That's one thing. If it's mom's property and she wants to bring on your husband as a co owner of an LLC in case she passes away, it's easy to go to him. I wouldn't lose sleep over that. But the fact that you're asking this question to me, there's something else going on here. And if you had trust in your mother in law because of the way she has treated you in the past and this came up, you wouldn't think twice about it, right? If my in laws, one of my in laws, my father in law or my mother in law was to do a joint venture with my wife that I helped with, I wouldn't think twice about it because I trust both of them implicitly with forever. This tells me there's other trust issues and that mom's maybe been trying to cut you out for a long time. And this is another way she kind of ed any. Anyway, whole thing's messy. So I would ask this way. Number one. If your husband likes hunting on this property and it's fun and he likes doing it and he likes to make a little side muscle. Side money bringing in hunters in. Y'all figured that out. Even if you bring inside money and all it does is pay the taxes on the land and pays for the feeders, fine. If husband's trying to do this to win's mom's favor and maybe one day she'll leave it to him. Hopefully if she. And now we're getting into messy stuff. And if you're running a business that's not earning anything, you need to have that conversation. Yeah, whole thing's a mess. But I want to go back to this one question here. Am I wrong for voicing my opinion on this matter? If you are a part of a marriage where both people have a voice and both people can be heard and to say what's on their hearts and on their minds. No, no. If you have voiced your opinion and your husband said I don't care, don't worry about it then nagging or complaining or going to war is not going to solve the problem, then your marriage has deeper issues, which is your husband doesn't really care what your opinion is on these matters. He's going to do what he's going to do. You only do address that core issue. Right.
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Yeah. And talk to him. You said, what happens if my husband unexpectedly passed away? Figure out what the will looks like and what the estate planning journey looks like and what will happen with this, the LLC that he's a part of. I would. I think you have a right to know what would happen there. But I also wouldn't. I feel like there's just more resentment here because of the effort she's putting in. So maybe she goes, I'm going to back out of this and y'all can hire a bookkeeper.
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That's exactly right. You can hire a bookkeeper. You can hire somebody who is booking these hunts. I'm going to step out and just be with the kids.
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There you go.
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And it's not a job. It's not like we're going to lose money on it. And y'all knock your lights out if that's something you want to do on the side.
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Summary of "I Think My Mother-in-Law Is Trying To Cause A Rift Between Us"
The Ramsey Show Highlights
Release Date: December 21, 2024
In this episode of The Ramsey Show Highlights, the Ramsey Network addresses a complex family and business dilemma presented by Andrea from Arkansas. Andrea is grappling with tensions arising from her mother-in-law's recent decisions regarding a family hunting ranch inherited by her husband's mother. The situation threatens to create a rift in her marriage, and she seeks advice on navigating these challenges.
Andrea explains that her husband's mother inherited a family hunting ranch valued at approximately one million dollars. Both she and her husband have been actively managing the ranch by covering most of the expenses, using personal equipment for maintenance, scheduling and hosting hunters, and handling bookkeeping responsibilities. Despite their significant involvement, Andrea feels sidelined when she suggested forming an LLC to formalize their business dealings, leading her mother-in-law to take steps that exclude her and her husband from the ranch's ownership structure.
Notable Quote:
"I feel like she's trying to cause a rift between my husband and me." — Andrea [00:08]
The host delves into the underlying issues, highlighting potential resentment from the mother-in-law due to Andrea and her husband's extensive contributions without gaining financial benefits or ownership. The host points out the absence of earnings from the ranch for Andrea's husband, raising questions about the mother-in-law's motives.
Notable Quote:
"That those last four words tell me a whole lot. We are. That's really the resentment." — Host [01:19]
George Kamel emphasizes the importance of evaluating the ranch as a viable business. He suggests that if the ranch isn't generating income, Andrea and her husband should reconsider their involvement. George proposes that maintaining a business that doesn't yield profits can lead to unnecessary stress and complications in personal relationships.
Notable Quote:
"I think one of them is you're running a business that doesn't make any money. Stop running a business that doesn't make money." — George Kamel [02:02]
The conversation shifts to the broader family dynamics and trust issues between Andrea and her mother-in-law. The host speculates that past interactions may have eroded trust, leading the mother-in-law to possibly exclude Andrea as a preemptive measure against potential marital issues. The host underscores the need for open communication and addressing trust deficits to prevent further misunderstandings.
Notable Quote:
"If you had trust in your mother in law because of the way she has treated you in the past... this tells me there's other trust issues." — Host [02:23]
Andrea inquires about the implications of her mother-in-law's actions on her marriage, questioning whether voicing her concerns was the right approach. The host affirms that in a healthy marriage, both partners should feel heard and valued. However, he cautions that if Andrea's husband dismisses her concerns without consideration, it may indicate deeper issues in their relationship that need to be addressed.
Notable Quote:
"If you are a part of a marriage where both people have a voice and both people can be heard... No, no." — Host [03:15]
Addressing Andrea's worry about the future, especially in the event of her husband's unexpected passing, the host advises prioritizing estate planning. He recommends outlining the will and understanding how the LLC ownership will be handled to ensure her children's security and her rights are protected.
Notable Quote:
"Figure out what the will looks like and what the estate planning journey looks like and what will happen with this, the LLC that he's a part of." — Host [04:31]
The hosts conclude by suggesting practical solutions:
Notable Quote:
"You can hire a bookkeeper. You can hire somebody who is booking these hunts. I'm going to step out and just be with the kids." — Host [04:53]
The episode provides a comprehensive exploration of the interplay between family relationships and business dealings. It underscores the importance of clear communication, mutual respect, and proactive planning in maintaining both personal and professional harmony. Andrea is encouraged to address the root causes of the tension, seek professional guidance, and prioritize her family's well-being in navigating this challenging situation.
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