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Caller
I'm having a little issue. I lost my husband in 2008 and got a settlement because he died in a work accident and had a family friend who was a trust officer at a regional bank and offered to help me walk through the whole process and drew up some trust for me and my kids. And two years ago I found out that he stole all the money.
Co-host
Oh my goodness.
Dave Ramsey
Two years ago?
Caller
Yeah. $8 million in the accounts and there was nothing. So I just recently received a malpractice settlement for $531. 531,000 and took me two weeks to even put it in the bank because I was scared to let go of the check. Sure. So I've just got it in a money market account right now at 3.75 interest because I just needed it somewhere safe. But I need it to grow and I'm just scared to do anything with it now. Sure.
Co-host
Can we just ask what happened? Did you report this to the law? Is there any. Anything working on this?
Dave Ramsey
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Co-host
Anything working on this?
Caller
We have. I have some attorneys that are working on it, but it looks like he has spent all of the money. I might possibly recover a couple hundred thousand dollars maybe.
Dave Ramsey
Wow. Is he in prison now? Where is this guy?
Caller
He's in Florida right now. And we found out there's other widows. He's done it too.
Co-host
Oh, sure. Well, I'm hoping that he's going to be arrested soon.
Caller
Well, that's. That's the hope.
Co-host
Okay.
Caller
But we all.
Co-host
In the meantime, you. We've got to help you with this 530 some thousand dollars. Do you have any debt right now?
Caller
I moved into a trailer when I found out. Or in a key into a camper when I found out the money was gone because I panicked and didn't want to be spending any more money. So I owe about 12 on the camper and I have a little bit on a credit card because that accounted in my backup while I was figuring things out.
Co-host
Do you have a job?
Caller
No. I still medically am not in a place that I can really get a job, but I do get workers comp. My husband's accident.
Co-host
Okay, so what are your monthly expenses and then are you able to cover those with your medical?
Caller
Well, I just recently the guy who took the money was giving me a paycheck, so I had Obamacare. And when he took the paycheck, now I'm on Medicaid. And then I just found out that because of this settlement, I'll probably lose the Medicaid. So just little things that are up in the air that I'm not sure what to do. But I don't have a lot of expenses. I get about $27.83 a month from workers comp and I have about $1500, give or take. I pay extra on the camper and medical bills and things like that.
Dave Ramsey
Do you have any family? Do you have kids?
Caller
I have two grown children and I actually, my camper is on my mother's property.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, and where were you living before?
Caller
I had an apartment. I went straight from my mom and dad's house to my husband's house. I got an apartment and decided I would live in town and do that for a few.
Dave Ramsey
And so what would it cost you to rent somewhere? Let's say you got rid of the camper.
Caller
Everything I've looked at the camper's better than what I would spend to rent.
Dave Ramsey
Well, better is. I want to argue with that word. I don't know that your quality of life is amazing right now, living in this camper on your mom's property. I think you need to stand on your own two feet and. And do some sort of work that you can do, because I don't know that this is going to provide enough income for you to cover for the rest of your life. When does this worker's comp end?
Caller
I get it. Until I'm 70.
Dave Ramsey
And how old are you now?
Caller
53.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, so you got another 17 years of this. 2783. But that's not enough to cover your bills and have a life.
Caller
No, that's why I need to know what to do with the money.
Dave Ramsey
Well, you're gonna need to invest the money. You don't need a big portion of it right now. Other than paying off this debt, which I would just suggest selling this camper and getting rid of it. Are you underwater on the camper?
Caller
No, I went very minimal on one.
Dave Ramsey
So you owe 12K. What is the camper worth?
Caller
It's probably worth 20.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. So you could profit off of that, and then what's the credit card balance?
Caller
It's like 5,500 right now. Okay. Medical stuff on it.
Dave Ramsey
So you could sell the camper, use the profits to pay off the credit cards, never touch debt again. Build up an emergency fund with some of the settlement money and invest the rest. Yes, that's what I would.
Caller
My brother, my husband and I did financial peace before he passed away. So I've just. I've just been in this situation now that it's that I had a little bit of credit card debt in the camper because of what happened.
Dave Ramsey
Well, you're going to start a new chapter now, and it's been a long time, and I think you've been stuck in the sort of fight or flight, and then all the grief of learning that this money's gone, and the frustration, the resentment, the anger that you must be feeling. There's a lot going on here, and I think we just need to move forward, and I hope that you can get some resolution. I don't think you're gonna get all your money back. I do hope this guy gets what he deserves, but for now, you gotta go find something you can do and create a life for yourself.
Caller
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
You're in survival mode.
Caller
I am. Very much so.
Dave Ramsey
So what would it take for you to be able to do some sort of work? Is it physical therapy? Rehab therapy? What would it take?
Caller
It's all surgical. I just have a lot of internal issues now from all the surgeries.
Dave Ramsey
Could you do something from home customer service? You're talking to us, and so I feel like there's got to be something out there you can do to create some income.
Caller
Plausibly, I could do something from home. I guess it's probably a little lack of confidence, too. I was going to stay home, mom, since I was 24, so.
Co-host
Well, you've got a good personality. You've got good common sense. Your. Your brain's working fine, and you need to be working for momentum's sake. It's not about a ton of money that you need, but it's about momentum across the board. Your shoulders will go back a little bit more. Your head gets a little higher as you begin to see that I can take care of myself. And the good news is if you do what George told you to do. We also want you to go see a smartvestor pro in your area or two or three, and have them explain how they're going to help you invest that money. And then your confidence begins to grow and you can still climb back here. Thank you for calling.
Dave Ramsey
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The Ramsey Show Highlights: “I Was Scammed By A Friend For $8,000,000”
Episode Overview Released on May 13, 2025, "The Ramsey Show Highlights" delves into a harrowing tale of financial betrayal and recovery. Hosted by the Ramsey Network, this episode features a caller who shares her devastating experience of being scammed by a trusted family friend, resulting in the loss of $8 million. The discussion offers valuable insights into navigating financial setbacks, rebuilding trust, and regaining financial stability.
Caller’s Story: A Devastating Betrayal At the heart of this episode is a heartfelt call from a woman who lost her husband in a work accident in 2008. Following his passing, she received a settlement intended to secure her family's future. Entrusting her finances to a family friend who was a trust officer at a regional bank, she believed her and her children’s financial well-being was in safe hands. However, two years ago, she uncovered that her trusted friend had embezzled the entire $8 million from her accounts.
Key Details from the Call:
Discussion and Expert Advice Dave Ramsey and his co-host engage with the caller to assess her situation and provide actionable advice. They focus on immediate financial steps, emotional resilience, and long-term financial planning.
Financial Assessment and Action Plan:
Debt Management: The caller owes approximately $12,000 on a camper and has a $5,500 credit card balance. Ramsey advises selling the camper, which is currently worth around $20,000, to pay off the debt and eliminate the credit card balance. This move would free her from existing debts and provide a foundation to rebuild. (05:02)
Dave Ramsey [05:02]: “You could sell the camper, use the profits to pay off the credit cards, never touch debt again. Build up an emergency fund with some of the settlement money and invest the rest.”
Emergency Fund and Investments: With the recent settlement, Ramsey recommends allocating funds to create an emergency reserve and invest the remaining amount to ensure future financial growth. He emphasizes the importance of not relying solely on a fixed income from workers' compensation.
Employment and Income Generation: Considering the caller’s health challenges prevent her from securing traditional employment, Ramsey encourages exploring work-from-home opportunities to generate additional income. This step is crucial for gaining financial independence and improving her quality of life.
Co-host [06:00]: “It's about momentum across the board. ... if you do what George told you to do. We also want you to go see a smartvestor pro in your area or two or three, and have them explain how they're going to help you invest that money.”
Emotional and Psychological Support Ramsey acknowledges the emotional turmoil the caller is experiencing, including grief, anger, and fear. He underscores the necessity of moving forward, building confidence, and creating a stable financial foundation despite past betrayals.
Dave Ramsey [05:53]: “There's a lot going on here, and I think we just need to move forward, and I hope that you can get some resolution.”
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Conclusion This episode of "The Ramsey Show Highlights" offers a profound exploration of recovering from significant financial betrayal. Through compassionate guidance and practical financial strategies, Dave Ramsey and his co-host empower listeners to overcome adversity, rebuild their financial lives, and maintain emotional resilience. The caller's story serves as a poignant reminder of the importance of vigilance in financial matters and the transformative power of sound financial advice.
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