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Caller/Client
to run into about maybe $2 million a lump sum. But I have bad money management. I give away my money, I spend my money. I am currently right now living in poverty. I am a nurse in my town, so I have had tons of money. I go and buy high end cars, I bought houses, so. Houses. Giving houses away, diamonds. I cashed out my 401k about a couple years ago. But what's going on? I make really, really silly financial decisions. I've been chapter seven bankrupt three times. How old are you? 44.
Jade
Okay. And you ready to break that cycle? You know it exists?
Caller/Client
Yes.
Aya
You.
Caller/Client
And I am extremely fearful. Like when I get this money, do I like go and pay cash for another house? Like do I finance the house? I just don't know what to do and I don't want to fall into my old pattern like speaking going out of town when people don't even know.
Jade
Do you know? Have you identified the source of what that's coming from? Have you identified what causes you to. Cause it sounds like you're a bit of a rescuer. It sounds like you come to people's rescue who don't you know. It sounds like you're a bit of an enabler. Have you identified why that is?
Caller/Client
Yes.
Jade
And where that comes from?
Caller/Client
I've always been into shopping and things. My grandmother was very wealthy, so we shopped, we did well. My brother was murdered in 2013 and I started to pad my life emotionally with materialistic things. But I couldn't fill the void. So it just took me in the overdrive. So like we talking about me waking up at six o' clock in the morning, catching a flight to Texas just to eat, just to come back home that night. Like crazy things that you won't even, you couldn't even think of.
Jade
Have you figured out how to remedy that in a, in a healthier way or how to kind of heal through that?
Caller/Client
Well, I have a grandson now, so he's. I think I've healed it. I think I've. I've not healed the homicide, but I've navigated through it. So now I'm not as ditchy to go and spend money in addition to. I'm hurt now. So all of this great lifestyle went down the drain. I can't work right now because I'm hurt. But this is where this, this is where this $2 million is going to come from.
Jade
How long are you, how long are you unable to work? Like, what's the status of that?
Caller/Client
So I've been out of work already for about 18 months. Oh man.
Aya
And the 2 million, did you get hurt on the job and you're getting a settlement?
Caller/Client
I did not get hurt on the job. I had a fall. But I am getting a settlement, okay, for about almost $2 million. So I need to refund my 401k. I need to buy another property, I need to buy a car. Like I need things to do. But I also want to open up a business. I want to open up a home care business.
Jade
Okay, let's pause, pause. Let's pause. Cuz you're, you're already starting to go back into that mindset, which is the moment I have money, I gotta spend it on something. And that's not true. So I want to open up the conversation with a really basic principle that we teach here. And we, it's so basic that we teach it to kids, which is when you have money, there's three things you do with it. You give some, you save some, and you spend some. And you have to do all three and you have to do them in the correct proportions. And if you can walk away with that little piece and filter everything through that Aya, that's going to help you because you've got to save some. And that's the part that's missing from your equation. So those three things. And then the second part, which I'll call it the second part, but it's, it's probably the most important thing that needs to underpin all of this, which is you've got to decide. And I don't know what your relationship with debt has been, but you've got to decide no matter what. I don't borrow money.
Caller/Client
Okay.
Aya
At all.
Jade
Ever done.
Aya
Not for business, not for other people, not for cards. We don't borrow money. Ayia. Say it. I don't borrow money.
Caller/Client
I don't borrow money.
Jade
Ever.
Aya
Keep over, keep that so close to your heart. Keep that so close to your heart. Okay?
Jade
Yeah.
Aya
Because this $2 million can change. This will change your life. This will set you up for a life with, without financial stress that you've been in, you know what I mean, in these cycles. And so. So we'll tell you kind of what we would do, but first I would also say so. So Jade's big, big point. Did you hear? Give, save, spend, no debt. I'm gonna tell you, you need to find someone. I don't know if it's Someone, a good friend, a family member, someone in your church, but someone who is good with money. Someone who has built some wealth slowly over time. And you look at them and they're the kind of person that you're like, I trust them, how they live their life and the way they view money. But they've done well. I need. I want them in my life. And I'm not kidding. Before you make any big purchase, I want you to call that person before you do anything.
Jade
Did anybody come to mind? Did anyone come to mind when she said that?
Caller/Client
Yeah, two people.
Jade
Okay. Yes.
Aya
And they need to know everything. I mean, see, I'm serious. The deep. I hate the word accountability because it feels so like I'm gonna tell you yes or no. I don't know.
Jade
It's like a friend, but a true friend.
Aya
A true friend who can be your financial friend, who's gonna know all the numbers that you need. Someone in your life that is with you in this and not because you're not capable of doing it your own. I think you can build that muscle and you can, but for anyone out there who's single and doing this stuff, and especially if you're coming into $2 million and you're so self aware enough to know, like, I'm not great at this, have someone who's good to bounce ideas off of. Okay, so those are important. Now what are we going to do with this $2 million? Let's talk real quick. What is your car situation? You threw out about a car. What are you currently driving and do you have debt on it?
Caller/Client
I'm not driving anything at the moment. I can't drive. I have.
Jade
You can't drive.
Caller/Client
I have to have surgery, so I can't drive.
Aya
Oh, because of your health.
Jade
Okay, how soon, how soon do you think it'll be until a car becomes part of your life again and driving becomes part of your life?
Caller/Client
Eight or nine months, maybe about eight months.
Aya
Okay, so let's just hold off on that.
Jade
What about other debt? Do you have debt that needs to be paid off? Do you have any debt?
Caller/Client
Absolutely.
Jade
Tell us, tell us all.
Caller/Client
Probably about a $25,000 Navy federal credit card that I need to pay off. You know, just capital ones discovered, but everything is high limit. 20,000, 10,000, 30,000. Everything is high limit and everything was maxed out.
Jade
Okay, so how many. If you had to calculate how much debt you have in credit cards, what's the total right now?
Caller/Client
About 73,000.
Aya
Okay. Okay, so we're going to cut those up tonight.
Jade
I.
Aya
Okay. We're done with credit cards. Okay. Because A is a person that doesn't borrow money. We don't go into debt money. That's right. So that means no credit cards. Cut them up.
Caller/Client
Okay.
Aya
Get your debit card out. That's what you're going to spend money on as you're on your debit card. No more credit cards. They've been horrible to you. You see what it's done horrible for me. Yes. Three bankruptcies later, not a blessing. Not a blessing.
Jade
Okay, so what about the 401k? Was it a 401k loan or did you just take the early withdrawal? Like, what did you do?
Caller/Client
No, I did an early withdrawal. I ran into like a little health issue. B, so I was able to cash it out. Not too many penalties and I lived off of it for a little while.
Jade
Okay. So that's not bad to work.
Caller/Client
But after that I had my accident and so now I've been out ever since.
Jade
Tell us more debt. Is there more besides the 73,000?
Caller/Client
No. 73 should.
Aya
What's your housing situation?
Caller/Client
I live somewhere where I don't love, so I'm absolutely.
Aya
But you own a home. Do you own a home?
Caller/Client
No.
Aya
You're renting. Okay. We're going to take some of this money and we're going to buy a modest. Modest. Not a 2 million dollar, not a $2 million home. A modest home.
Jade
Yeah.
Aya
To get us started in an area that we like. Okay, so those would be some big purchases, but you need to go over those numbers with a friend. Please have someone in your life that's walking through this with you and cut up the credit cards tonight. Let that be one of the posts in the ground for you.
Dave Ramsey
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Episode: I'm Afraid I'm About To Blow $2,000,000
Air Date: May 19, 2026
Host(s): Jade Warshaw, Aya, with participation from Dave Ramsey
Caller: 44-year-old nurse expecting a $2 million settlement
In this impactful episode, a caller, a 44-year-old nurse, reaches out to the Ramsey team understandably fearful about inheriting a $2 million settlement due to a personal injury. Despite the windfall, her history with money management is rocky: she openly admits to poor spending habits, giving away money, shopping sprees, three bankruptcies, and a long-standing pattern of self-sabotage. Jade and Aya compassionately break down her psychological relationship with money, offer practical steps to change her future, and stress accountability and discipline. This episode is a crash course in transforming financial behavior, especially for those coming into unexpected wealth.
Jade and Aya probe the emotional roots behind the compulsive spending and "rescuing" behaviors.
The caller reflects on using lavish spending to cope with grief and trauma:
“My brother was murdered in 2013 and I started to pad my life emotionally with materialistic things. But I couldn't fill the void... like we talking about me waking up at six o'clock in the morning, catching a flight to Texas just to eat, just to come back home that night.” (Caller, [01:35])
Now, with the arrival of a grandson and time, she notes progress—though not full healing—away from harmful coping habits ([02:11]).
Jade interrupts the momentum towards reckless spending:
“You're already starting to go back into that mindset, which is the moment I have money, I gotta spend it on something. And that's not true.” (Jade, [03:10])
The team outlines the basic Ramsey principle, even taught to children:
All in healthy proportions ([03:13]).
Aya emphasizes the most critical rule:
“You’ve got to decide no matter what: I don’t borrow money.” (Aya, [04:15])
The caller repeats back their new mantra at prompting:
“A is a person that doesn’t borrow money. We don’t go into debt money. That’s right. So that means no credit cards. Cut them up.” (Aya, [07:06])
“I want you to call that person before you do anything.” (Aya, [05:24])
On breaking the cycle of bad financial decisions:
“You have to give some, you save some, and you spend some. And you have to do all three and you have to do them in the correct proportions.”
— Jade ([03:13])
On the need for accountability:
“Find someone who is good with money...Before you make any big purchase, I want you to call that person.”
— Aya ([05:24])
On ditching debt for good:
“I don’t borrow money. Ever.”
— Jade & Aya, getting the caller to repeat the phrase ([04:27])
On the self-awareness journey:
“I'm not as ditchy to go and spend money in addition to…I'm hurt now. So all of this great lifestyle went down the drain.”
— Caller ([02:11])
On practical next steps:
“Cut up the credit cards tonight. Let that be one of the posts in the ground for you.”
— Aya ([08:16])
This episode is a compassionate, no-nonsense financial intervention. Listeners witness real vulnerability as the caller shares how trauma and habits sabotage her financial health. Jade and Aya provide a roadmap not only for her, but for anyone facing sudden wealth (or wanting to break the cycle of money mistakes):
Don’t spend impulsively. Set rules. Get accountability. Prioritize giving and saving. Never borrow again.
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