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John
Okay, so my girlfriend and I have been dating for four months now, and things are going well. However, I do have a concern about the fact that she financially supports her parents. And I wonder the best way to.
Jade
Approach the situation with caution. So four months. And when you say support, what does that mean?
John
Yeah. So she's in a household with her brother and her parents. They immigrated to the States about two years ago, and her parents are retired, so her brother and she split the cost of the household.
Jade
Okay, so they're paying everything. They're paying for rent.
Dave
How old is mom and dad?
John
They're in their early 60s, but they're retired now.
Dave
Why are they retired?
John
That's a great question. I have not asked her that.
Jade
Where did they immigrate from?
John
Yeah, they're from Honduras.
Jade
Okay.
Dave
The family situation that you're describing is more common in Latino families than it is in black Americans or white Americans. So generally, we tend to throw everybody out of the house in the world I come from. You're 18, boy. What are you still doing here? But in Hispanic families, they tend to. It's much more culturally expected that we stay together and that you take care of mom and dad. So you're looking at it through the same set of eyes, John, that Jade and I would be looking at it through. But that's a cultural difference, legitimate cultural difference. But in our world, what we would say is, well, they're 60 years old. Get a job and support yourself. Why are you got your little kid taking care of you and now she can't, you know, her potential husband's going to run off because he didn't want to adopt the whole bunch. He just wanted the girl, you know, I mean, that's, that's the way you and I look at it. But mom and dad need to get a job.
Jade
Does she live. She lives in the house where she's taking care of them.
Dave
Yeah. Yeah.
Jade
My, my question. If I were in your shoes, my question for her would be, when you move out, when the day comes, when you're married or when you, you know, you're, you know, on your own, would you still be. Do you still feel that you would be the one that's going to pay their bills? That would be my question. And that's going to tell you all you need to know.
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Jade
Do you still feel that you would be the one that's going to pay their bills? That would be my question. And that's going to tell you all you need to know.
Dave
Yeah. And I got to tell you, I think the answer is yes. I think she's going to want to continue to support them because I think they expect her to and not because they're bums, because that is a cultural, a legitimate cultural difference.
John
Okay, but we had some conversations about that.
Dave
What she say?
John
She said that they kind of have a pact where once the daughter and son move out that they're still gonna continue to support them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jade
Well, the good news is you're only four months in.
Dave
Ouch. You know, if that's what you want to sign up for, you know what you're signing up for. But, and I'm telling you, if she were to not do that, it would be the way that the culture she's grown up in, the way she's going to feed, she's going to feel like she's morally doing something wrong if she does not support them. Okay. And to her defense, okay, again, the chances that Rachel or Denise feels like they need to take care of Sheridan me's 00. Even if we were completely broke, they would just be going, hope it works out for you. Just like. But. And so, I mean, they'd be sweet. They bring us some groceries or something. But the chances that they're just going to write checks every. No, because that's the culture.
Jade
Plus, I think that's if she comes to the conclusion that, you know what? Yeah, I just want to go out and live my own life. I don't want to feel like I am chained to this. I feel like that's a conclusion she's going to have to come to on her own versus you trying to persuade her of that.
Dave
Yeah. We leave our family and cleave and set up our own household is a puritan work ethic. It's an Anglo Saxon Protestant mentality that leave and cleave and preachers will tell you, leave your family, go set up your own household. And I believe in that. But I'm just telling you, she doesn't. And so you have a. You know, you're asking someone to go against everything they've been taught their whole life.
Jade
Yeah, yeah.
Dave
That's tough for her to walk away from that. And it's gonna be very, very difficult. So it would require that. I personally think it'd be better for mom and dad if they had the dignity to go get the jobs. They're only 60 years old and crap. I'm 64. I work, so, I mean, not killing me, you know, so I don't. I mean, you can go do something, really, and support yourself, but I think it'd be better for everyone to adopt that mentality. But we've done enough work in the Hispanic community to have respect for that. Because, like Jade, one of the things I discovered when I first started messing around with, trying to understand the differences and what was driving some of these decisions. So I'm like, you know, the daughter is like 24 years old and she's making $100,000 a year or whatever, and she lives with her parents. And I'm like, why are you living with your parents? You go get an apartment and, like, have a life. Well, that's considered as immoral, as if she was a promiscuous. If she leaves her parents home and is not married. It's considered by certain segments of that community. Avita Loca.
Jade
Yeah.
Dave
And so you're going crazy and you're out here partying and you're screwing around and everything else, and she's not. But that's just how that's viewed as an immoral act on a young lady's part to do that. Now, young men would be encouraged to go on and do their own thing, but again, that's a difference where in an Anglo Saxon world or the African American world, we're like, child, go get you an apartment. Get out of my house, you know, and go. Go get you a life and finish your development and so forth. So, John, that's what you're up against legitimately. And I'm. I'm speaking in her defense. But I'm probably not helping your quandary because I'm probably making it deeper. Yeah, I think you got us. I think you got a serious values conflict here that you guys are going to struggle with. If she quits taking care of them, she's going to struggle with it. If she doesn't and you go forward, you're going to struggle with it. So you got an issue here that's Maybe a deal breaker.
Jade
Yeah, that's, that's why I said what I said. Because if you and I think you can bring it up, and you do bring it up, but if you get into the business of trying to convince her otherwise, if she starts to feel any guilt, that can very easily turn into bitterness to you. Bitterness towards you. Yeah, that's right.
Dave
That's exactly right. Good. A good observation.
Jade
Tough one.
Dave
Hey, it's good, you know, but he brings up a good point that this is. And you said we're only four months in. That's good. It's a good talk about these things. People don't, like, think you're going to change somebody after you get them married. That's for God. We know that's not going to work.
Jade
I know that's right.
Dave
And you know, let's just know what we're getting into because the number one cause of divorce, money fights and money problems and their overvalue systems and principles. Like we're talking about, like I'm, I, you know, my family always bought brand new cars. So you're gonna buy me a brand new car? Don't think so, chick. Not happening. All you need to know. You need to know that before we talk about getting married. Right?
Jade
Right.
Dave
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Summary of "I'm Concerned About My Girlfriend's Financial Situation" | The Ramsey Show Highlights
Release Date: May 8, 2025
Host: Ramsey Network
Participants: Dave Ramsey, Jade Warshaw, Dr. John Delony
In the episode titled "I'm Concerned About My Girlfriend's Financial Situation" from The Ramsey Show Highlights, listeners are presented with a relationship dilemma faced by John, who is worried about his girlfriend's financial obligations towards her parents. Hosted by Dave Ramsey and featuring co-host Jade Warshaw, the episode delves into the complexities of cultural expectations, financial responsibilities, and relationship compatibility.
John initiates the discussion by expressing his concerns regarding his girlfriend's financial duties towards her family:
John [00:10]: "Okay, so my girlfriend and I have been dating for four months now, and things are going well. However, I do have a concern about the fact that she financially supports her parents. And I wonder the best way to."
John explains that his girlfriend lives in a household with her brother and her retired parents, who immigrated from Honduras two years prior. Both siblings share the household expenses, including rent.
John [00:21]: "She's in a household with her brother and her parents. They immigrated to the States about two years ago, and her parents are retired, so her brother and she split the cost of the household."
Jade and Dave explore the cultural dimensions influencing John's girlfriend's financial responsibilities. They highlight that such family support structures are more prevalent in Latino communities compared to Black or White American families.
Dave [01:05]: "The family situation that you're describing is more common in Latino families than it is in black Americans or white Americans. Generally, we tend to throw everybody out of the house... But in Hispanic families, they tend to stay together and take care of mom and dad. So you're looking at it through the same set of eyes, John, that Jade and I would be viewing it through. But that's a cultural difference, legitimate cultural difference."
Dave emphasizes that in cultural contexts familiar to him and Jade, there is a strong expectation for young adults to become financially independent and support their own households.
Jade suggests that John should consider the long-term implications of his girlfriend's obligations:
Jade [02:17]: "If I were in your shoes, my question for her would be, when you move out, when the day comes, when you're married or when you're on your own, would you still feel that you would be the one that's going to pay their bills? That would be my question. And that's going to tell you all you need to know."
This line of questioning aims to uncover whether John's girlfriend envisions continuing her financial support post-marriage, which could significantly impact their future together.
Dave discusses the potential clash between cultural expectations and individual financial goals:
Dave [03:17]: "I think she's going to want to continue to support them because I think they expect her to and not because they're bums, because that is a cultural, a legitimate cultural difference."
He elaborates on how deeply ingrained cultural norms can influence personal financial decisions, making it challenging for individuals to break away without experiencing guilt or a sense of moral obligation.
Dave [05:27]: "You have a serious values conflict here that you guys are going to struggle with. If she quits taking care of them, she's going to struggle with it. If she doesn't and you go forward, you're going to struggle with it. So you got an issue here that's Maybe a deal breaker."
This highlights the importance of aligning financial values and responsibilities within a relationship to prevent future conflicts.
Jade and Dave discuss the potential outcomes of this financial arrangement on John's relationship:
Jade [04:38]: "Plus, I think that's if she comes to the conclusion that, you know what. Yeah, I just want to go out and live my own life. I don't want to feel like I am chained to this. I feel like that's a conclusion she's going to have to come to on her own versus you trying to persuade her of that."
They caution against trying to change one's partner's deeply held beliefs and suggest that forcing such changes can lead to resentment and bitterness.
Dave further advises that recognizing these differences early in the relationship is crucial to prevent issues like money fights, which are a leading cause of divorce:
Dave [07:55]: "Hey, it's good, you know, but he brings up a good point that this is... the number one cause of divorce, money fights and money problems and their overvalue systems and principles."
He underscores the importance of open communication about financial expectations and cultural obligations before taking the relationship to a more committed level, such as marriage.
The episode underscores the intricate balance between cultural obligations and personal financial independence within relationships. John’s situation serves as a case study for listeners to evaluate how cultural differences can impact financial decisions and relationship dynamics. Dave and Jade emphasize the need for open dialogue, mutual understanding, and alignment of financial values to foster healthy and sustainable relationships.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own financial responsibilities and cultural influences to navigate similar challenges effectively.
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This episode provides valuable insights into how cultural backgrounds and financial responsibilities can influence personal relationships. It serves as a reminder of the importance of aligning financial goals and expectations to build a strong foundation for any partnership.