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B
Dave, I had a call with you when I was 22 years old. Am I going to be better off 20 years from now if I attack my house as if it was consumer debt? Or should I just stick to the plan and invest the 15%?
A
I want you at your young age to get, you know, to get the advantage of those investments starting to build. And so I would stick with a plan putting 15% of your household income away in retirement. The typical millionaire pays off their home in 10.2 years and they have two primary areas of their balance sheet that show up that make them millionaires. A paid for home and a steady constant. Investing in a 401k and Roth IRAs since they were young. And they'll have 7,800,000 bucks in their 401k half million dollar house paid for. And that's right where you're going to be in five years.
B
You told me that if I did exactly what she said that I would be a millionaire by the time I was 32. And we were able to accomplish that by the time we were 28. So I just want to let you know that y' all mean the world to us and children's children will be grateful for y' all one day. So I really appreciate it.
A
Proud of you, man. Well done, Landon.
C
Man, you should call the guy from the last segment. Talk to him.
B
So with that being said, this is probably going to sound so stupid, but I'm so nervous to make a dumb decision after what we've worked so hard for that I just had to get Yalls advice on it. So we're worth right at about a million one, maybe maybe a little bit less than that. And we have 15 acres of property that we want to build a house on. My house currently is paid for and the issue is I just bought this house two years ago new. And then of course we have a guy moving next door with his mom that just got out of prison after 20 years for child crimes. And it really freaking sucks that I can't let my kids in the backyard to play because he will watch them through the fence pickets not but once.
C
Geez.
B
Yeah. So it really, really sucks. And so with that, we just want to go ahead and build this house on this property. But the problem is, is one, there's two to three options. Number one, we can take out a construction loan to go ahead and start the build once it's done, sell our house and pay off the construction loan. But the problem with that is we feel like we're violating what we've been so committed to for this many years. But it's kind of heartbreaking to do it. That's number one. Number two is we can sell our house now and go rent something. But I really hate to make my wife move twice, have two babies in the process. Have to figure out the dog situation
C
when there's a creep living next door, though. Landon, don't you guys want out?
B
I. I agree, I agree.
A
I want to go rent to get away from the creepo because otherwise I'm going to end up in jail for murdering.
B
Okay, yeah, I agree, I agree. So you would. You would just go ahead, sell it, rent, move twice, deal with the dog situation, the whole deal.
A
But the benefit of getting away from the creepo is it also frees up the money to do the build.
B
But I agree. I do agree. Yeah. And it's somewhere for nothing more than to not do a construction loan on this stupid.
C
Yeah. And you guys will be somewhere 9 to 12 months and it won't be super fun, but you would. Look at. I mean, that just goes so fast, time wise, you know what I mean? Like, it's just. It's going to be for a quick time.
A
So. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. You're a millionaire. Way to go. You're 28 years old. Way to go. What's your household income?
B
Last year I made 250, but my income varies on commission only.
A
And you don't have a stinking debt in the world.
B
Correct.
A
And the house will sell for how much?
B
I mean, I'm fully expecting to lose some money on it because I've got to pay an agent.
A
And pay for how much?
B
Probably 470. I'll probably lose 20 there.
A
What is it going to take to do the build?
B
500.
A
Okay. And you've got the other money.
B
I've got 200 grand in liquid cash right now, not counting retirement.
A
So here's what's going to be uncomfortable for you, but you're going to do it anyway if you follow my advice.
D
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A
So here's what's going to be uncomfortable for. But you're going to do it anyway if you follow my advice, and you did last time.
B
So, yeah, I'll do it again.
A
Rent something for one year. That's ridiculously nice.
B
Yeah.
A
And that makes this adventure kind of fun.
B
Sure.
A
And it's so nice that you put up an extra deposit and they don't mind your dogs in the backyard and your kids are away from creepazoid, and your wife doesn't mind moving because she's moving up. Go rent an $800,000 house.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Because it's not that much money out of the whole scope of your life, and it puts grease in the wheels to make this move happen properly. And so you can afford to do all of that. You make a good. This is not a permanent decision. It's a temporary decision.
B
And.
A
And it's making a uncomfortable thing, a double move. Fun.
B
Yeah. So. So you would do that even though you're taking on a monthly payment that you haven't had for years now?
A
Yeah.
B
You're taking away from the other things you're doing.
A
Yes. Because you don't have a monthly payment on a construction interest. Construction loan interest.
B
Sure, sure, sure. Okay. So there's no scenario in this where you're doing a construction loan after where we're at.
A
Well, you could if you want to, but that would involve staying in the house. And I'm.
B
Yeah, you're.
A
You weren't kidding. The guy's looking through the slats of the fence.
B
I'm dead serious.
A
He not kidding. I don't know how you didn't. I don't know how you didn't respond to that.
C
I'm sure he did. I'm sure.
B
I spent $8,000 in cameras and equipment. And then I'm gonna.
A
I'm gonna swear out a warrant.
C
Well, the point is. The point is you're just.
A
You got to get away from this.
C
Yeah. The point is you will have more peace from the financial aspect because you already were just like, oh, I don't. I don't want to do the construction loan again. You could, but you didn't feel good about that. And your current situation, you guys. I mean, if I was your wife and I had two little kids. Yeah. I mean, like, that's miserable. Go rent a house. I Like when Dave likes to spend money. I like this because go rent like an abundant.
A
Well, you've lived like no one else and so now you can live like no one else.
C
I rent like an affair farm or something. Like something that you wouldn't need to.
A
Got a nice pool in a big backyard with Cows.
C
He's got 15 acres. Well, they're going to move to a farm.
A
I know.
C
Move to a fun. I don't know, just have fun for a year somewhere. I like that.
A
Yeah. Pretend like you're doing it.
C
We had a friend do that and she moved into like a historic type home. And it was the coolest. But it was for a year. But it was beautiful. So fun. Yeah, I like that idea.
A
But you've got the money.
C
That's right. That's the difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally, totally.
A
So let's not. Let's not confuse this with somebody that's broke.
C
No, no, no, no.
A
Calling me up and going, I bought a Tesla last night.
C
I know that's usually people that call this show. So it's fun when people who are winning you might go spend. Yes. Enjoy your life.
A
Yeah. And you're not having to violate the go back in debt thing. And more most importantly though, I'm getting away from Creepazoid because I'm serious. I can't visualize going to work and leaving my wife and two little kids at home once this guy's got his eyeball. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
I'm really afraid I would lose my mind and end up in jail.
C
We know. You've said that twice on this call.
A
I know, I know, I know. But it's just this is this. These people, man. Yeah. I mess with little kids. I mean, you know, this is not. This is not. This is not a good thing. So. Yeah. Landon, I think this is why you have worked so hard. The payoff for all of your sacrifice is you got choices. And I'm suggesting you make this an easiest possible process with those choices because it is a temporary thing where it's not a five year plan, it's a 12 month plan. And quickly get your plans drawn, select your builder, lay out a budget, a schedule and a blueprint and manage to those three things to get that house out of the ground and get it done as quick as you possibly can.
C
Just don't let a budget creep out of work.
A
Stay on schedule and stay on blueprint and don't not 19 change orders and stay on budget, stay on blueprint, stay on schedule and you can get a house out of the ground. You won't. And you'll be your builder's favorite customer ever. Because most people can't stay on budget, stay on schedule, and stay on blueprint. So if you'll do that, you can get the house out of the ground 12 months. You'll be fine. You'll be on the farm. Da da da dun dun dun dun. And life is good. You got some distance between you and the neighbors, which is always a good thing. Wow. The world we live in.
C
Well. And I just love what he said, though. Calling it 23 and said or he was 22.
A
22. I told him by 32, he'd be a millionaire. Yeah. If you did this, he made it by 28.
C
Yes. Yes. So it does.
A
Proud of it.
C
Proves out. Well done, Landon.
A
You follow this stuff? It works. I mean, I didn't invent any of it. I stole it all from God and your grandmother. Common sense is so rare in America, though, that it's like having a superpower. And so, yeah, so we have a wildly popular show that 30 million people tune into every week. Who knew? But that's it. That's why. Because this stuff works. And I'm so. And you are the hero, Landon. You did this. I appreciate you giving us credit, but you're the guy that did all the hard work for the last decade. Or six years, in your case. It didn't take you a whole decade. Wow. From 22 to 2080. Because a millionaire. And I just love Gen Z. Gen Z has got so much potential. There's so many things they can do. There's so much. So many things at their fingertips. And they're so smart on how they use them when they're smart. But there's no middle ground. The dumbest person on the planet is a dumb Gen Z.
C
Okay.
A
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Date: April 14, 2026
Host: Dave Ramsey (A), Co-host (C), Caller: Landon (B)
In this episode, Dave Ramsey and his co-host counsel a young millionaire, Landon, on a major life decision: whether to move after discovering his new neighbor is a recently released sex offender. The conversation centers on weighing personal safety, financial plans, and family well-being—offering practical, thoughtful advice for managing tough financial and life choices after years of smart money management.
Landon's Journey:
Dave’s Reflection:
Option 1:
Option 2:
Dave’s Strong Advice:
How to Make the Temporary Move Enjoyable:
Perspective:
The episode’s tone is empathetic, supportive, and encouraging—highlighting that responsible money management is about giving yourself options, especially when facing real-life adversity. Dave and his co-host insist that safety and peace of mind far outweigh any inconvenience, and that financial discipline enables decisive action without regret.
Listeners are left with practical strategies, inspiration, and a reminder: sometimes, the right answer is the one that brings peace and protection, not just financial advantage.