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If your private student loans are in default, you're not out of options. Go to yrefi.com Ramsey My daughter's in her sophomore year of college, and a couple years back, we made a deal that if she did well in school, we'd pay for her housing expenses and ability to go to college. If she got a scholarship, she came through on her end, and we've been doing that. However, she keeps making decisions that kind of go against what we're advising her to do. And my question is, I feel like we might be hurting her more than we're helping her by trying to send her to college and not holding her to an accountability standpoint of growing up.
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What types of things is she doing that's not what you want?
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So a while back, I made it well known tattoos were not a thing that we approved. And it was one of those deals where we said, listen, if you want to get tattoo, that's on you, but not while, you know, we're paying for your things, because then I feel like I'm subsidizing it. And so, you know, she, she's come home with numerous tattoos, and then I, the last one she came home with, she called me ahead of time, knewing that I'd be upset about it, but when. And I was glad that she was honest with me. However, she knows that we don't approve of that right now. At her age, how old is she? The fact that, you know, she's just about to turn 20. So, you know, I, I, it's her body. She can do whatever she wants. However, I, I just don't feel comfortable with her getting tattoos at that young of an age, you know, where that's kind of a permanent thing for a young.
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You said, you said two opposing things in one sentence. You said, it's her body. She can do whatever she wants. And then you turned around and said, but actually she can't. So I think you have to figure out which one of it it is at for her age. And then the other question I have just practically, is she using the money that you're giving her for tattoos?
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Well, so that's the part. So we, we pay for her, her housing, and then we also pay for her tuition.
B
Okay.
A
And so she, she made a decision to do a trip last year and, and didn't plan for it correctly, and she wound up spending like she needed help on that trip. So part of that is we lowered her, her monthly expenses that she gets, and so she's covering that for her job. And then, you know, she, she. That. And we're basically letting that be the payment. So we're giving her less for housing and she covers the difference.
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Is it an apartment? An apartment or campus housing?
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It's a, it's an apartment slash housing. Campus housing. It's kind of a blend. So it was like $1,000 a month, and now we downed it down to 800. So she can pay back over a year the amount of money that we gave her to, to, to live while she was doing her, her trip to Italy. And so, you know, we're proud of her because she paid for the trip for Italy. However, you know, one of the deals with doing that was, listen, we're not paying, we're not financing that.
B
How much over.
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We've already.
B
How much over did she go on that trip to Italy? Like, how much did you need to bail her out?
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Three grand.
B
Ooh. Yeah. That's a lot.
A
Yeah. And we were on top of it. We were on a trip in Europe, so we spent a whole bunch of money for our, you know, our trip that we were super excited about doing for us. And then we're having to come out of pocket, so, like, you know, kind of put us in a bad position.
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How are you guys covering her tuition, housing? Is this from a college savings account or just cash flow or normal?
A
That would have been, that would have been a lot smarter when I was younger. But, you know, we're doing very well financially between my wife and I, we make about 200, 120,000 a year.
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Awesome.
B
So you just cash.
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How clear was it that tattoos equals we're cutting you off? Or was this just a separate preference? Like, hey, I don't want you getting tattoos?
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It was separate, but when she got in the argument with me about it, I said, listen, we're. We're paying for you to go to school, and all that is money that you're not having to spend to go to school. Right. So we're, we're trying to set her up as much as possible. And, and my view on it is I, I don't believe in making permanent, you know, markings on your body until you're, until you're fiscally responsible for yourself. And then if you want to do that, you can do that, but also maybe be a little bit older so you can make wise choices instead of a, you know, 19, 20 year old, you know, putting things in their body that don't necessarily.
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This is a 20 year old decision, and, you know, it is a preference. There's no moral failure here. I personally, if I'm. Dad, I get you being upset. I get the disrespect, but I would not cut off her college funding. If you want to tie it to something, I would tie it to grades, attendance, legal behavior. You got to finish in four years, all of that. But this is just a separate issue. And now we're trying to hold. Weaponize her college funding to get her to stop. What you can say is, hey, any future tattoos needs to come out of your money from your job. We're going to send this money directly to the landlord, directly to the school. We're not just going to fund it in your bank account.
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Yeah, so. And we haven't been doing that. So we. We've been purposely having her pay everything out of her account. We fund it, and then she makes the payments to those things. However, like I said, she just quit her job without having another one lined up, and she doesn't seem to be in a hurry to get another job, and she's having her boyfriend pay for everything. And we're just. We're just going like, hey, that's not a wise. That's not wise decision making. You don't. You don't do things like that without having other things lined up, you know, and. Yeah, so we're just concerned that she's not. She's not making. The whole thing we're doing is trying to develop her to learn how to handle money and make good decisions. And we feel like often we're really bankrolling her bad decisions, and that's what we're worried about.
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I kind of hear two things at play, and I'm going to caveat this, John, by saying, my kid. I almost wish Dave was on, because my kids are young. They're five and seven. I've not been in your shoes. So I'm literally just listening. And what I'm doing is thinking back to when I was in college. So that's where this is based from. Just so you know, I'm kind of hearing two things go on. I'm kind of hearing a. A concern about how she's handling her money, but I'm also kind of hearing a power struggle of she's getting older, she's making choices, you don't agree with them, which you have the right to not agree with them. But there's also this part of she's just going to make choices, and some of them you're just going to have to let her make. I think let's deal with the money part. Money part. I might be inclined to say you know what, you had the luxury of having this kind of off campus hybrid. I think that we're not going to do that because you haven't been able to kind of hold up your end of the bargain. So you can do the normal campus housing and if you get a job, we're open to you doing the hybrid thing where you have the apartment but you'll have to pay for it. You could totally do that. Plenty of kids go to school and they live in on campus housing and they don't get the fluff, you know what I'm saying? So you could totally do that. I would probably distance it from this whole tattoo thing. So it did not seem like a retaliatory response to the tattoos because I actually do think that that's very separate. But if you do feel like, hey, we're bankrolling her to the extent to which she's not doing a part time job or some of the things that we talked about her doing from the beginning, I think that that's a fair thing. Now, the other side of it, let's talk about kind of like the tattoos, personal choices with the boyfriend. That is another area that, I'll be honest, I think it could be one. I don't know. This is just me speaking from being a 18 year old girl with a dad who was trying to help me with. I feel like if you get too smothering, it could almost have the opposite effect.
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So I. Yeah, absolutely.
B
Do you know what I mean? So it's almost like experienced that already.
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Is like the more you lean in, the more she leans away. And now she wants to rebel as, as a. Because she doesn't know how to even handle that. And it feels like you're controlling her. She's a grown woman now and so they are two separate issues. And if you want to not feel like you're enabling, you can fund the direct thing you're trying to fund and no more. And now it's on her. And if boyfriend covers the bills, that's a problem he's got to deal with. And when she needs to get a job because she can't buy the things she wants to buy, she might go into debt. And you hate that because you're like we said, you're not going to go into debt. But at the end of the day, putting her in crippling student loan debt and having her hate you forever I don't think is the right next step.
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Date: February 15, 2026
Host(s): Ramsey Network Team
In this episode, a concerned father calls in to discuss a dilemma: Should he and his wife stop funding their 20-year-old daughter's college expenses after she disregarded their rules on tattoos and responsible money use? Ramsey Network experts respond with nuanced advice, exploring the intersection of parental boundaries, financial support, and a young adult’s independence. The speakers focus on whether parental financial support should be conditional on lifestyle choices, and how to encourage responsibility without damaging the parent-child relationship.
"If she did well in school, we'd pay for her housing expenses and ability to go to college... However, she keeps making decisions that kind of go against what we're advising her to do." [A, 00:02]
"You said two opposing things in one sentence. You said, 'it's her body, she can do whatever she wants.' And then you turned around and said, 'but actually she can't.' So I think you have to figure out which one of it it is." [B, 01:40]
"She paid for the trip to Italy. However, you know, one of the deals with doing that was, listen, we're not paying—we're not financing that." [A, 03:12]
"How much over did she go on that trip to Italy? ... Three grand." [B & A, 03:13–03:19]
"My view on it is I don't believe in making permanent... markings on your body until you're fiscally responsible for yourself." [A, 04:00]
"If you want to tie it to something, I would tie it to grades, attendance, legal behavior... But this is just a separate issue." [C, 04:34]
"We're going to send this money directly to the landlord, directly to the school. We're not just going to fund it in your bank account." [C, 04:34]
"If you get too smothering, it could almost have the opposite effect." [B, 07:35]
"The more you lean in, the more she leans away. And now she wants to rebel as, as a... because she doesn't know how to even handle that. And it feels like you're controlling her." [C, 08:05]
"At the end of the day, putting her in crippling student loan debt and having her hate you forever I don't think is the right next step." [C, 08:34]
On Conflicted Parenting:
"You said two opposing things in one sentence. You said, 'it's her body, she can do whatever she wants.' And then you turned around and said, 'but actually she can't.'"
— Host [B, 01:40]
On Parenting vs. Enabling:
"We feel like often we're really bankrolling her bad decisions, and that's what we're worried about."
— Father [A, 05:50]
On Avoiding Retaliation:
"I would probably distance it from this whole tattoo thing. So it doesn't seem like a retaliatory response."
— Host [B, 07:05]
On Long-Term Consequences:
"Putting her in crippling student loan debt and having her hate you forever I don't think is the right next step."
— Host [C, 08:34]
For listeners navigating complex young adult relationships, this episode emphasizes clarity, compassion, and a focus on long-term growth—both financial and relational.