My Daughter Wastes Money On Coffee (And I Don't Like It)

Summary

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Episode: My Daughter Wastes Money On Coffee (And I Don't Like It)
Date: May 3, 2026
Hosts: Dave Ramsey, Rachel Cruze
Caller: Sarah

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a common parental concern: Sarah calls in to ask how to guide her soon-to-be college graduate daughter away from the costly habit of buying specialty coffees. Dave Ramsey and Rachel Cruze discuss the bigger life lessons around budgeting, financial independence, parental boundaries, and values-driven spending. The conversation balances practical advice with humor and generational perspective, ultimately emphasizing the importance of personal experience and respectful distance as young adults learn to manage their own finances.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Challenge of Changing Habits Late (00:15–00:44)

• Sarah’s Concern: She worries her daughter wastes money on coffee and wonders how to help her realize the financial impact.
• Dave’s Take: It's too late to change longstanding behaviors in the month before graduation.
  • Quote: "In 30 days, you want to fix four years of damage?" — Dave Ramsey (00:41)

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2. Perspective on the Daughter’s Character and Spending (00:53–01:21)

• Rachel and Dave Ask: Does the daughter have the money and is she otherwise responsible?
• Sarah’s Response: Her daughter is smart, talented, and of good character.
  • Quote: "Her only sin is specialty coffee." — Dave Ramsey (01:10)
• Parental Worry: Sarah admits it's not a 'sin', but worries her daughter is unprepared for real-world finances.

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3. The Power of Budgeting and Letting Experience Teach (01:21–02:45)

• Rachel’s Optimism: Believes the daughter will realize the cost when living on her own income.
• Dave’s Advice: Rather than nag about coffee, encourage budgeting through the EveryDollar app.
  • Quote: "The categories in a budget...yell at you and the specialty coffee will yell at her and go, I just spent 300 bucks this month on coffee. This is crazy." — Dave Ramsey (02:11)
• Lesson: Experience and seeing expenses written out are the best teachers for money habits.

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4. Trial and Error, Value Spending & Parental Boundaries (02:45–03:58)

• Rachel on Trial and Error: Young adults figure out their spending priorities as their new incomes force choices.
  • Quote: "God forbid she has the money for her specialty coffee and that's what she wants to do. ... There is a point that it's going to be what she values." — Rachel Cruze (03:02–03:40)
• Dave’s Reflection: If your child's "worst" habit is buying coffee, be grateful.
  • Quote: "If she spends some money on coffee I don't agree with, so what? I would just step back from this and let it go." — Dave Ramsey (03:47)

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5. The Big Picture: Opportunity Cost & Perspective (04:17–05:45)

• Rachel’s Advice: Consider the opportunity cost—what compound growth daily coffee could become if invested, but spending on coffee isn’t inherently wrong.
• Generational Story: Dave shares about his Depression-era grandparents reusing coffee grounds, which led previous generations to see coffee habits differently.
  • Quote: "The third day, it was so weak and so tepid that they called it coffee tea." — Dave Ramsey (05:07)
  • Quote: "Sarah's daughter was raised in Portland, Oregon, which is kind of the home of specialty coffee." — Dave Ramsey (05:44)
• Perspective Shift: Recognize the cultural and generational differences about what’s considered "wasteful."

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6. Numbers Don’t Lie: The Budget "Yells" at You (05:58–07:56)

• Dave’s Mantra: A detailed, honest budget provides its own accountability. People only realize overspending when summing it up.
  • Quote: "Money. The numbers will. If you actually look down at it, you will feel stupid when you're doing something stupid." — Dave Ramsey (06:02)
• Anecdote: A man realized he had no retirement because his family was eating out too much—a budget revealed the truth.

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7. Independence and Mindset (07:56–08:46)

• Rachel’s Encouragement: Shift focus from controlling to trusting—help young adults use money to build a life they love, after covering basics.
  • Quote: "This money is here for me to use as a tool to create a life that I love. ... If she wants to allot coffee in there, that's great." — Rachel Cruze (08:05–08:38)
• Dave’s Wrap-Up: Spending on coffee is fine as long as it fits within the budget and doesn't compromise bigger goals.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "In 30 days, you want to fix four years of damage?" — Dave Ramsey (00:41)
• "Her only sin is specialty coffee." — Dave Ramsey (01:10)
• "The categories in a budget when you actually do it...the specialty coffee will yell at her." — Dave Ramsey (02:11)
• "There is a point that it's going to be what she values." — Rachel Cruze (03:40)
• "If she spends some money on coffee I don't agree with, so what?" — Dave Ramsey (03:47)
• "The third day...they called it coffee tea." — Dave Ramsey (05:07)
• "Money. The numbers will...you will feel stupid when you're doing something stupid." — Dave Ramsey (06:02)
• "This money is here for me to use as a tool to create a life that I love." — Rachel Cruze (08:05)

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Key Takeaways

• You can't force financial wisdom overnight; experience is the best teacher.
• Encourage young adults to budget for themselves rather than trying to micro-manage their choices.
• Perspective matters—what seems ‘wasteful’ to one generation may reflect personal values to another.
• A detailed, honest budget is the most effective tool for self-correction.
• As a parent, sometimes the best advice is to step back and let your child make choices, trusting in the values and character you've helped instill.

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Timeline of Important Segments

• 00:15–01:21: Setting up the problem and the daughter’s character.
• 01:21–02:45: Discussion of budgeting as a teaching tool.
• 02:45–03:58: Perspective on personal values and spending.
• 04:17–05:45: Opportunity cost and generational differences.
• 05:58–07:56: How budgets reveal truths and learning by personal discovery.
• 07:56–08:46: Final thoughts on financial independence and healthy mindsets.

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Summary:
Dave Ramsey and Rachel Cruze offer practical, compassionate advice for parents anxious about their adult children's spending. Rather than focusing on specific habits like buying coffee, the hosts recommend creating space for young adults to learn through budgeting and to trust in the character already cultivated. The episode warmly acknowledges generational perspectives, underscores the wisdom of patience, and closes with a reminder: budgets, not lectures, are the true teachers.

Transcript

[Dave Ramsey]

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[Sarah]

help my adult daughter understand how much money she is wasting on specialty coffee?

[Dave Ramsey]

Oh, you're not going to like my answer.

[Sarah]

Well, she is graduating from college in 30 days. And I know that it won't be our place to offer financial advice unless asked after that, but for the next 30 days, we'd like to give whatever advice we can.

[Dave Ramsey]

It's too late. Four years she's been in college buying Starbucks, and you didn't say nothing. Yeah, I mean, in 30 days, you want to fix four years of damage?

[Rachel Cruze]

No, I mean damage. It's just Starbucks.

[Sarah]

I know. It's such a bad habit financially. It's. It's.

[Rachel Cruze]

Well, does she have the money?

[Dave Ramsey]

Is this. Is this lady. What's she graduating in?

[Sarah]

She'll have a degree in landscape architecture.

[Dave Ramsey]

Okay.

[Rachel Cruze]

Oh, great.

[Dave Ramsey]

And. And is she a good person? Is she of good character?

[Sarah]

She's a great person. She's smart. She's incredibly talented.

[Dave Ramsey]

Her only sin is specialty coffee.

[Sarah]

It's. I mean, it's not a sin. It's just that she's going to be starting her independent financial life and I don't think she realizes.

[Rachel Cruze]

I think she will realize it, though.

[Dave Ramsey]

Yeah. When she starts writing a check, she'll start to feel. Yeah. When she looks down and sees her Starbucks bill, she's going to go, oh, my. This is wild.

[Rachel Cruze]

Yeah.

[Sarah]

Yeah. These days you don't look down at the every expense.

[Dave Ramsey]

No, no, no. But if it shows up in her budget. Okay, so this is fun. It's a cute checking account. You're fun. But because you know that you can't do anything about this is the bottom line. And you're right. And I personally wouldn't bring up the coffee ever again if I were you. But what I would do is say this. I would say, hey, you're getting ready to graduate. And one of the things I wish we had taught. Done a better job teaching you during the last four years was to do a detailed written budget. And so as you do, as you come out, I really want you to pick up this EveryDollar app. It's free. And start doing a detailed written budget for your sake. And I wish I'd done a better job making sure you did that all along, but I didn't. And so it's my last parting advice. Here's what will happen when she does that. Sarah, that budget will the categories in a budget when you actually do it. And Actually live on it. If you can get somebody to do that, the categories yell at you and the specialty coffee will yell at her and go, I just spent 300 bucks this month on coffee. This is crazy. And the numbers will just yell at you if you're doing the actual do it.

[Rachel Cruze]

And if she doesn't, she's going to be getting a starting salary somewhere and she's going to have to learn how to live on her salary. And so I think, and I think through trial and error, Sarah, she's going to learn, okay, I can't eat at such and such restaurants weekly. I have to cut that back. Gosh, this coffee is like I'm spending so much here, I got to probably pull back here. Like I think it's going to be some, some trial and error. Or Sarah, God forbid she has the money for her specialty coffee and that's what she wants to do. And if it's not illegal or immoral, there's a value system there, right? Like there's things people spend money on that I roll my eyes at like 2 year old birthday parties that look like wedding receptions. I'm like, why would you? Why, why? You know, I roll my eyes at that. But it's not wrong that people do that if they have the money and it's not. And that's the money and it's not my money. You know, people look at people buying cars like I would never spend X on a car. But if you have the money, like that's what, that's what they want to spend their money on. So there is a point that it's going to be what she values.

[Dave Ramsey]

I think if you have a daughter graduating from college and she is a great person and the biggest flaw you can find in her is this, I would just step back and say thank you Jesus. And say nothing and say I did a great job, I have a great daughter. And if she spends some money on coffee, I don't agree with, so what? I would just step back from this and let it go. I would encourage a budget because a budget will point out to any one of you, anybody doing a budget, the numbers yell at you. Yes, they go, this is smart, this is dumb.

[Rachel Cruze]

Well, and to your point, Sarah, what, what your, your opportunity cost of where money can go, right? So even just throwing in a coffee a day in an investment calculator and just see what that would cost you, right? And again, not like you're never going to not buy coffee, but you start to see where your money has power and where you can Use it wisely. But again, buying coffee is, you know, if that's what you want to do, that's fine.

[Dave Ramsey]

But I saw this question come up on the screen or earlier, and it took me back. And you've never heard this story, but my grandparents were in the Great Depression, of course, and they used the coffee grounds three days.

[Rachel Cruze]

They would reuse over and over.

[Dave Ramsey]

They would reuse them in a percolator. Okay. They put them in a percolator, make a pot of coffee. The next day, left them in there, make a pot of coffee. And every time you do that, it's

[Rachel Cruze]

weaker than I was going to say by the third day. Is it even the third day?

[Dave Ramsey]

This is hilarious. The third day, it was so weak and so tepid that they called it coffee tea.

[Rachel Cruze]

Oh, gosh.

[Dave Ramsey]

It was not real. I mean, it was just nasty.

[Rachel Cruze]

Just water.

[Dave Ramsey]

But. And so when your mother and I get married and we use fresh grounds every morning, they felt like about us, like Sarah feels about her daughter.

[Rachel Cruze]

How wasteful you are.

[Dave Ramsey]

How wasteful we are because we make fresh coffee every single day and didn't reuse the grounds and have coffee tea the third day.

[Rachel Cruze]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dave Ramsey]

But in that. That's so funny.

[Rachel Cruze]

It's just a perspective. It's a perspective, right?

[Dave Ramsey]

Yeah, it is. It's just. But, I mean, I wasn't raised in the Great Depression, and Sarah's daughter was raised in Portland, Oregon, which is kind of the home of specialty coffee. One of the homes of specialty coffees.

[Rachel Cruze]

Yeah.

[Dave Ramsey]

Yeah. And so it's a coffee town for sure. And, you know, it's. Yeah, that's interesting. But what a great discussion. Yeah, it's funny. That's great. I will say this, though. I want to go back to that other thing on every dollar. Everyone start doing your written budget, your detailed budget, because I will say it again. Money. The numbers will. If you actually look down at it, you will feel stupid when you're doing something stupid. I mean, the numbers will just look at you and go, that's stupid. The numbers will go, that's a debt check. You know, and when you start chunking money over, like in your emergency fund, when you're working on baby step three, and you see that growing, or you're chunking money on the debts and you see the debts start to go away, the numbers will tell you, and you'll start to feel good about yourself. The numbers will say, you're smart, you're smart, you're smart, you're smart. And that thing talks to you. It really does. It talks to you. And it tells you, you know, you're acting like a child or you're acting like an adult. And that's silly to spend that. And I, you know, I remember one time I sat down in a Financial Peace University group, and this guy, 100 years ago, and this guy says, I figured out when we did our first month's budget, while we don't have anything in retirement, we're spending $1,200 a month on eating out, just on restaurants. Oh, yeah, and this was back in

[Rachel Cruze]

the day, I was gonna say that

[Dave Ramsey]

was like $2,000 a month or $3,000 a month now on restaurants. Right. He goes, I figured out why we don't have a retirement. We've been eating it, you know, and the numbers are telling you. They're looking at you going, you're dumb. This is dumb. You're consuming all of this money and you're not doing any investments. You're not doing any generosity. And the numbers, if you can get her to do a budget, Sarah, if her specialty coffee is out of line as a percentage of her overall income and world, it will speak up for itself and tell her, yep, she's gonna be able to say it. And you will never have to say it. Cause I don't think you're gonna do any good saying it, by the way.

[Rachel Cruze]

No, I agree.

[Dave Ramsey]

Yeah. She's gonna say, nunya mom. None your business. Mom.

[Rachel Cruze]

Say mom. What are you talking about?

[Dave Ramsey]

Hey, Mom.

[Rachel Cruze]

No, in the budget too. The reframing of, you know, having your money work for you like that. That is such a big mindset. Mindset shift for people to say, what can I. This money is here for me to use as a tool to create a life that I love. What do I do with this? To create a life that I love. And stability and peace. Gives you some of that, gives you a life you love. And that's the investing and the generosity. You're doing the basic things and making sure that those things are covered. And then anything above that, then you're able to say, okay, what do I want to use this for? And if she wants to allot coffee in there, that's great.

[Dave Ramsey]

That's her luxury item.

[Rachel Cruze]

But. Yeah, but making sure that again, that it's. It's in a perspective and in a reality of her overall budget. That makes sense.

[Dave Ramsey]

Yeah. That's fun. Good call, Sarah. That's interesting. Why Refi refinances defaulted private student loans for struggling borrowers. Learn more at Y r e f y.com Ramsey.