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Caller
There'S a couple different parts to my question, but the main thing is where do we start getting out of debt? And how can I get my husband on board to better manage his trading day trading that he does? While we are doing that.
George Kamel
Those feel like they're in conflict with each other. Would you agree?
Caller
Absolutely, yes.
Dave Ramsey
So how much has he lost, day trading?
Caller
Well, a little bit of background. We got married three years ago and right before we got married, he decided that he wanted to refinance the house. And he had just started dabbling in the trading stuff and I think he got excited about how much he was getting. So he refinanced the house and got 200k back and we turned it into a 15 year mortgage at $4,000 a month. And he put most, I would say he put 90% of the money towards the day trading and it's all gone now.
George Kamel
So he mortgaged the house in order to gamble?
Caller
Yes. If that's yes. Yeah, I just didn't realize, I guess what was happening at the time.
Dave Ramsey
Where my confusion is, is why he's not on the phone saying, I pissed away 200k, my wife's getting ready to kill me, how can I straighten out my life? Instead, his wife calls and says, how can we manage around his little day trading problem?
Caller
Absolutely, I agree with you 100%.
George Kamel
Where is he at with all this? Does he think, well, I'll just day trade my way out of this one? Yeah, that's his game plan?
Caller
I think so, yes. And part of it is I don't really understand all the trading stuff.
Dave Ramsey
And I think you do. I think you understand he turned 200,000 into zero.
George Kamel
Worst magic trick ever.
Caller
Yeah, and it was kind of like when everything was going well and then it crashed.
Dave Ramsey
No, honey, it wasn't a crash. What's the statistic on day trading, George?
George Kamel
97% lose money. If they persist for more than, I believe it's 100 days or 300 days. AKA pretty much nobody's making money from this. And most are actually losing money.
Dave Ramsey
97% failure rate. This is called don't do it. Okay, so here's what we start. You guys need to have a reset in your marriage, in your relationship, and, and in his head. And I can't help you. We can't help you. There is no Ramsey technique for continuing to lose 200k regularly and turning that into a wealth plan. We don't have a Technique that's that good. So what you've got to do is you guys are going to have to sit down tonight and go, honey, you're doing cocaine and you're going to stop. Are you going to do that?
Caller
I have done that.
Dave Ramsey
But he didn't stop.
Caller
He didn't stop. And I can see that he's on it all day, every day. I can see that. And so I'm definitely not naive to think that he's addicted to it. I think. And I think he wants to try to fix whatever happened before, because we had that blowout about what happened before. But I'm just trying to figure out.
Dave Ramsey
97% of the people who do what he is doing lose money.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
That's all of them. Ava. I'm sorry, honey.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
There's only one way. There's only one way your family survives is if this man stops doing this.
Caller
And that's what I was wanting to hear, because I'm all about him stopping it, because we have to get out of debt.
George Kamel
Like, how much debt are you guys in?
Dave Ramsey
They have 200,000 on their house. And what else extra 200,000 on their house?
Caller
Well, to throw in something even more. We're actually getting a new house. We're putting our. Our house that we have now on the market.
Dave Ramsey
No, you're not. You're broke.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
Your husband doesn't have an income.
Caller
We're do.
Dave Ramsey
What do you make?
Caller
What we're doing.
Dave Ramsey
What do you make?
Caller
So I just stopped working about six months ago. I had my second baby, and I worked as a cardiac nurse.
Dave Ramsey
And so what do you guys use for mo. Food, Money? How are you paying bills?
Caller
She tells me that we just. Right now we have less coming in than what's coming out, which I do understand that, and I know that that.
Dave Ramsey
Was easy to calculate.
George Kamel
My toddler could do that.
Dave Ramsey
How are you? How are you? You don't know how you're paying bills?
Caller
I don't. And that's why. That's part of the reason why I'm calling, because I don't even know where to start, because I can you log.
George Kamel
Into the bank account.
Dave Ramsey
Where we start is you have a meeting tonight. And says, honey, we're not buying a new house. We're broke. I'm scared. What you're doing is terrifying me. I have a new baby, and we have got to have a different system where I understand what's going on with all the money. And you have stopped day trading. If he does not do that, it's the same thing as him having a line of cocaine in the middle of the coffee table in the living room.
George Kamel
You're letting a drunk drive the car right now. It's time you take over. He has an addiction. It's going to bankrupt the family, and you need to take over.
Dave Ramsey
You guys have got to have some really radical changes. I don't. I don't know if. I don't think you're scared enough. I don't think you realize what's going on, because at the rate you're going, I mean, no, you cannot work a system because there's no system that works through a 97% failure rate. There's just not one. And I'm so sorry you're going through this with a new baby and everything else, and I'm killing your dreams. But I didn't kill your dreams. You just called up and I gave you a reality check. So. We love you guys. We want you to win. And there is no possible way. There is no possible way that cocaine addicts and day traders end up prosperous five years from the day they start. Zero. It doesn't exist. It's a lie, mathematically. Okay, if I thought he could win, if I thought there was a 20% chance he could win, we can have a discussion. But when you have a 97% failure rate, then you just don't do it. It's irresponsible to your wife and your kid. You have to be like a grown up and stuff. And so, okay, I'm gonna go, like, make money and pay bills and take care of my family and then we'll worry about how we can build some wealth. But there's something broken in your house and you guys have really got a. I'm so sorry, honey. You've got a real relational mess on your hands. And I'm scared that you're vaguely aware of it, but not as afraid as you should be. And I don't want to create melodrama, but, you know, you're gonna call me up as a single mom in eight months because you're gonna realize that you, you know, he's gonna come in and they're gonna start taking stuff out of the driveway and they're gonna start. The sheriff's department's gonna start showing up at the door and your house is gonna get foreclosed on. Both of them. The new one and the old one, that haven't been leveraged or that are leveraged. And. Oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. I'm trying to. If I could get him by the shirt collar and just say, son, wake up. You're killing yourself and your family. Stop it. I would, but he's got to care.
George Kamel
More about his family than his gambling addiction.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
George Kamel
That's the only hope this relationship and this future has.
Dave Ramsey
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Detailed Summary of "My Husband Mortgaged Our House To Gamble" – The Ramsey Show Highlights
Release Date: August 12, 2025
In the episode titled "My Husband Mortgaged Our House To Gamble," The Ramsey Show Highlights delves into a distressing real-life scenario shared by a concerned wife. Hosted by Dave Ramsey and featuring expert George Kamel, the episode provides listeners with critical insights and practical advice on navigating severe financial mismanagement within a marriage.
At the outset (00:10), a distressed caller reaches out to seek guidance on two pressing matters:
Caller’s Background:
Caller states:
"He put most, I would say he put 90% of the money towards the day trading and it's all gone now." (00:35)
Dave Ramsey’s Assessment:
Financial Ruin Through Day Trading:
Ramsey asserts:
"97% failure rate. This is called don't do it." (02:17)
Potential Addiction:
Ramsey articulates:
"It's the same thing as him having a line of cocaine in the middle of the coffee table in the living room." (05:24)
Marriage and Financial Reset:
Ramsey advises:
"You need to have a meeting tonight and say, honey, you're doing cocaine and you're going to stop." (02:05)
George Kamel’s Contributions:
Reinforcing the Severity:
Kamel remarks:
"You're letting a drunk drive the car right now." (05:24)
Hope Through Family:
Kamel emphasizes:
"That's about his family than his gambling addiction. That's the only hope this relationship and this future has." (07:46)
Financial Transparency:
Caller mentions:
"I don't know how you're paying bills. How are you? You don't know how you're paying bills?" (04:33)
Impact of Day Trading:
Ramsey states:
"There is no Ramsey technique for continuing to lose 200k regularly and turning that into a wealth plan." (03:08)
Emergency Action Required:
Ramsey warns:
"You're going to call me up as a single mom in eight months because you're gonna realize that he's gonna come in and they're gonna start taking stuff out of the driveway." (06:30)
Dave Ramsey’s Final Recommendations:
Immediate Financial Halt:
Honest Communication:
Prioritize Family Stability:
Ramsey concludes:
"You have to be like a grown up and stuff. And so, okay, I'm gonna go, like, make money and pay bills and take care of my family and then we'll worry about how we can build some wealth." (05:24)
George Kamel’s Supportive Insights:
Reiterates the necessity of the husband choosing family over his trading obsession to salvage the relationship and secure their future.
Kamel reinforces:
"That's the only hope this relationship and this future has." (07:46)
Dave Ramsey:
"97% failure rate. This is called don't do it." (02:17)
Dave Ramsey:
"Where my confusion is, is why he's not on the phone saying, I pissed away 200k, my wife's getting ready to kill me, how can I straighten out my life?" (01:21)
Dave Ramsey:
"There's only one way your family survives is if this man stops doing this." (04:49)
George Kamel:
"You're letting a drunk drive the car right now. It's time you take over." (05:24)
George Kamel:
"That's about his family than his gambling addiction. That's the only hope this relationship and this future has." (07:46)
The episode "My Husband Mortgaged Our House To Gamble" serves as a poignant reminder of the catastrophic effects that reckless financial decisions and potential addictive behaviors can have on a family. Through candid dialogue and expert advice, Dave Ramsey and George Kamel highlight the imperative need for immediate intervention, open communication, and prioritization of family well-being over risky financial ventures. Listeners are urged to recognize warning signs, seek professional assistance, and commit to transparent financial practices to safeguard their familial and financial futures.