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Jamie
The basic question I have is what I should do with my mother in law's situation.
Dave Ramsey
Man, if I could answer that, I'd be rich.
Jamie
My in laws gave us a piece of property in 2006. We couldn't afford to build on it at the time, so we saved and we ended up building our house in 2012. After a couple of visits from my in laws, they ended up asking us if they could build a small home on the back of our property.
Dave Ramsey
The property that they get. The property that they gave you.
Jamie
Correct.
Dave Ramsey
So it's titled. It's titled to you and your husband.
Jamie
Correct.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Jamie
They were living in upstate New York. It was a lot. My mother in law taking care of her home and my father in law and. And she was talking to my husband daily, multiple times a day about what a struggle it was. So we felt like, yes, this was a good idea. We could help them when they lived here. And so they sold their home in New York and used that money to build a house in the back of our property. Well, during the building process, we kind of all realized at the same time that technically they did not own it, that we owned it because it was on property in our name. It caused a huge fight. My father in law, like, stopped the builder from building and we had a couple of days of discussions.
Dave Ramsey
I'm sorry, why was this a surprise?
Jamie
I guess because we never really had conversations about it.
Dave Ramsey
You don't need a conversation. They deeded the property to you. Did they just forget that they did that?
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Dave Ramsey
Did they just forget that they did.
Rachel
That or did they think when they were building on the Property that automatically the land under that is. Is theirs. Like, is that what they thought?
Jamie
Right? That's the assumption. Yes. Because they were paying for that house, they didn't think about the land underneath the house.
Rachel
Yes.
Jamie
So this was 10 years ago. Every six months for the past 10 years, we've had a fight about ownership of their home. My father in law passed away about three years ago. My mother in law since then has just become more and more angry about this situation.
Dave Ramsey
How old is she?
Jamie
She is 80.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Jamie
And in good, very good health. In January, there was a huge fight where she accused us of doing this on purpose for the sole purpose of taking her home. In essence, taking her money. She wants to be able to leave this home to her kids equally in her will. So we assured her we were never going to deny her access to this home. Like she said, you could kick me out at any time. Well, we're not going to do that. But it's just constant, the fighting. So now we haven't spoken to each other since January and she got a lawyer to send us a letter accusing us of elder exploitation and demanding $180,000 lump sum payment.
Dave Ramsey
And what is your all's net worth?
Jamie
Net worth? Probably over a million. Okay.
Dave Ramsey
How much land is involved in the total tract?
Jamie
An acre.
Dave Ramsey
No, no, no, no. I mean the whole property. Including yours.
Jamie
Yeah, an acre.
Dave Ramsey
How do they build on the back of an acre?
Jamie
It's an accessory dwelling. It's just a one bedroom, one bath, 900 square feet. And that's how the county defines it as well, we share all the utilities. Like, it goes three miles.
Dave Ramsey
She built a tiny house on the back of your acre?
Jamie
Oh, yeah, I should have clarified. It's a tiny house. Yes.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, geez. So she's not only not speaking to you, she's in your back window?
Jamie
Oh, yeah. Eight feet away.
Rachel
Oh, sorry, Jamie, that's not funny.
Jamie
No, every lawyer I talked to said the same thing.
Rachel
It's terrible.
Dave Ramsey
Every lawyer you talked to said the same thing? Which was what?
Jamie
Basically that, yes, she may have improved the property. This is the exact words of 1. The value of those improvements is largely offset by her continued occupancy. Meaning that she's gotten $180,000 worth of.
Dave Ramsey
Value out of a tiny house in the back corner of an acre. On no planet is worth 180 grand.
Jamie
True.
Dave Ramsey
It's just. Oh my God, the drama of some people. Okay, yeah.
Rachel
So because you're thinking like so many.
Dave Ramsey
So many. I thought. Yeah, I thought there was a hundred acres and. And she was in the back 40 or something. No, no, she's in the back window. This is bizarre. Oh, my gosh. So what are you gonna do, Jamie?
Jamie
We don't know. That's morally. I feel like I should give her money, but it would.
Dave Ramsey
No, I don't morally giving her anything.
Jamie
Okay, okay.
Dave Ramsey
No, you didn't do anything wrong.
Jamie
I agree.
Dave Ramsey
And the son in law. The funny part is the son in law stopped construction on the tiny house. Corner of the other house. Oh, my God. The brother in law, father in law. Her son in law. Her son. Yeah, because he wants his cut of the tiny house.
Rachel
No, no, the husband. The husband. The mother in law. The father in law stopped construction because he's mad at them.
Dave Ramsey
The father in law. I thought you said it was a son in law.
Jamie
No, father in law.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Rachel
That's the construction. Yes, yes, correct. Of the tiny home.
Dave Ramsey
All right, so what a horrible trying to do something nice that went bad story.
Jamie
Correct.
Dave Ramsey
So no, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna hire an attorney. You've got the money. Go give somebody 10 grand and keep her tied up till she dies.
Jamie
Oh, wow.
Dave Ramsey
Jeez. That's really all you can do here? Cause she's not. She's not. You're not going. This relationship's not going to be healed. This woman's lost her marbles and we can't find them. They're somewhere in the backyard near a tiny house.
Rachel
Near them, near Jamie.
Dave Ramsey
Right next to you, Jamie. Wherever they are, that's where the marbles are.
Rachel
Oh, shoot.
Jamie
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
Well, I mean, really, there's not a.
Rachel
Well, you want reconcilia. I mean, the perfect world is that there is reconciliation. Is your. Is your husband, Jamie? Is your husband, like, on the forefront of this emotionally and like, in it, or do you feel like you are more like holding the pieces together of everything that's happening? Like, do y' all both have emotional ownership in it, or is it more you? More him?
Jamie
Well, we know we're. We're kind of equal in that, but I. I'm kind of the go between right now because he has completely written. Written.
George
Okay.
Rachel
Because that's her son. So I feel like his weight in this.
Dave Ramsey
He needs to. He needs to make the decision because it's the painful for him. But if it was my situation here, I would just say, you know, you hired a lawyer, so I guess we've got two. And I would just stall and file continuances and do in depth depositions with every expert on the planet. And just, you know, just tie it up for five years and, you know, then it. Then it won't be there. It's awful. But, I mean, that's all you can do other than try to make an angry old woman that did a crazy bad deal happy. I don't know how you do that. I know how you do it. For the rest of you listening. Don't do this.
Jamie
Ever.
Dave Ramsey
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Podcast Summary: The Ramsey Show Highlights – "My Mother-in-Law Is Threatening To Sue Us"
Release Date: June 6, 2025
Host: Ramsey Network
Featured Experts: Dave Ramsey, Rachel Cruze
In the episode titled "My Mother-in-Law Is Threatening To Sue Us," Jamie reaches out to the Ramsey Network for guidance on a familial and legal dispute involving her mother-in-law. The discussion primarily revolves around property ownership, familial obligations, and navigating legal threats within family dynamics. Hosted by Dave Ramsey and featuring insights from Rachel Cruze, the episode delves deep into the complexities of helping family members while safeguarding personal assets and relationships.
Initial Situation: Jamie explains that in 2006, her in-laws gifted her and her husband a piece of property. Due to financial constraints, they couldn’t build on it immediately but eventually constructed their home in 2012 using saved funds. Following this, Jamie’s in-laws proposed building a small home on the back of their property.
Jamie (00:06): "The basic question I have is what I should do with my mother in law's situation."
Ownership Conflict: During the construction of the in-laws' small home—a tiny house covering 900 square feet—Jamie discovered that the property was legally titled to her and her husband, not the in-laws. This revelation led to significant disputes, especially after the passing of Jamie’s father-in-law three years prior, intensifying the mother-in-law’s frustrations.
Dave Ramsey (00:14): "Man, if I could answer that, I'd be rich."
Jamie (00:44): "They were living in upstate New York... It caused a huge fight."
Ongoing Disputes: Over the past decade, Jamie and her husband have faced biannual conflicts over the ownership and use of the property. The situation escalated in January when the mother-in-law accused them of exploiting her for financial gain, demanding a lump sum payment of $180,000.
Jamie (03:08): "And in January, there was a huge fight where she accused us of doing this on purpose for the sole purpose of taking her home."
Legal Threats: Jamie received a legal letter from the mother-in-law’s attorney, accusing them of elder exploitation. Despite Jamie and her husband’s net worth exceeding a million dollars, the demand posed a significant emotional and financial strain.
Dave Ramsey (05:08): "Every lawyer you talked to said the same thing...the value of those improvements is largely offset by her continued occupancy."
Property Details: The property in question spans an acre, with the tiny house situated merely eight feet from Jamie and her husband's residence. The arrangement, while legally permissible as an accessory dwelling, has become a source of constant tension.
Dave Ramsey (02:37): "So it's titled to you and your husband."
Jamie (05:28): "It's a tiny house on the back corner of an acre. On no planet is worth 180 grand."
Legal Strategy: Dave Ramsey recommends hiring an attorney to counter the legal threats. He suggests that Jamie and her husband consider financially outmaneuvering the mother-in-law by offering a substantial payment to deter further litigation, thereby avoiding prolonged legal battles.
Dave Ramsey (06:55): "I'm just gonna hire an attorney. You've got the money. Go give somebody 10 grand and keep her tied up till she dies."
Emotional Considerations: Recognizing the emotional toll, Rachel Cruze adds that reconciliation would be ideal but acknowledges the difficulty given the strained relationship. She emphasizes the importance of both spouses being emotionally invested in resolving the issue.
Rachel Cruze (07:31): "Well, you want reconciliation. I mean, the perfect world is that there is reconciliation."
Maintaining Boundaries: Dave underscores that Jamie and her husband did nothing wrong legally and morally, reinforcing that boundaries need to be strictly maintained to prevent further exploitation.
Dave Ramsey (06:11): "No, you didn't do anything wrong."
The episode concludes with Dave Ramsey reiterating the importance of protecting one’s financial and emotional well-being in the face of family disputes. While offering practical legal advice, the discussion also touches upon the emotional complexities of dealing with aging family members and the challenges of maintaining harmonious relationships when financial interests clash.
Dave Ramsey (08:42): "Don't do this. Ever."
Through empathetic dialogue and practical strategies, "My Mother-in-Law Is Threatening To Sue Us" provides listeners with valuable insights into managing difficult family situations involving property disputes and legal threats.
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This comprehensive discussion highlights the intricate balance between assisting family members and maintaining clear legal and personal boundaries. For listeners facing similar dilemmas, the episode underscores the importance of informed decision-making, legal counsel, and emotional resilience.