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Ken
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Caller
I have retired parents in their late 70s. My brother, who's 45, moved in with them at the beginning of the pandemic and hasn't left since. My parents are supporting him and, you know, they're getting older, they're starting to have health issues, and I do not want to be responsible for him after they're gone, but I'm having a hard time reconciling the. I guess moral obligation versus practical obligation.
Jade
Why would you be responsible for the brother? What type of what, is there something wrong that he's requiring support?
Caller
No, other than he just has never worked and. Oh, it's what? Yeah, yeah. And it's one of those things where I'm afraid if no one takes care of him or supports him, he'll end up homeless and, you know, bad things happen. When.
Jade
Is he on drugs?
Caller
He's not. It would be an easier conversation if he was.
Jade
So I guess my question is, why are you drawing the conclusion that he's totally helpless and will end up on the streets? If he's 40, able bodied, healthy, that would then just be his personal choice then, wouldn't it?
Caller
You're absolutely right, and it is absolutely his choice. It's. It's the, you know, tug of. He's my only. He's really my only family once my parents are gone.
Jade
And do you really think that rather than, let's. Let's just play this out for a second? I mean, unfortunately, let's pretend your parents, they're beamed up, they move on. Let's pretend you have put your foot down and said, you know what? You know, you can't move in with me, Bobby, and do you really think Bobby will end up. Do you truly in your heart of hearts, think that he will say, okay, tonight I'm sleeping in a box?
Caller
Just about the reason he moved in with my parents is because he was sleeping in his car and my dad didn't want that for him.
Jade
And you're sure there's nothing else going on with him?
Caller
I am sure there may be some mental health issues there that have never been diagnosed.
Jade
Okay, that's helpful to know.
Caller
Yeah.
Ken
This is tough because of what you just said there. Yeah, that's different. It feels like you've got to get a little bit more plugged in on this. Right. Like, I think you have to get hands on and find out to the best of your ability what is going on with him. In other words, if he's just a slacker, for lack of a better word, my response is different. If there's some legitimate. I got to be careful how I say this. If there's some legitimate medical diagnosis that put him in a position where he literally cannot take care of himself, that's a wholly different conversation. And it doesn't sound like, you know,
Caller
you know, when I. I would suspect. And again, he's never been tested, but my suspicion is that he's somewhere on the autism spectrum.
Ken
Interesting.
Caller
I am as well, but. But I know that there are very intelligent, successful people on the spectrum who, you know, still take care of themselves. And I don't know why it is that he has taken this route. He. He made comments years ago to my husband when we were dating, this was years ago that, you know, he didn't think he had to work that much because someday my parents would die and he would inherit, but my parents aren't that type of inheritance, you know, if that makes sense. So his concept and relationship with money is completely unrealistic.
Ken
Well, I'm going to go back to what I said a minute ago. I don't know that I can give great advice because I don't know much at all about what's going on because you don't know. So I think you've been detached. So I do think that this is the right time for you to dig in.
Jade
I agree.
Ken
And become completely aware of what's going on. So you have to assess the situation, at which point that allows you to make a good decision. I think you're a good person, and I think you have common sense, but I mean, are you the only sibling you are? Yes. Okay. Yeah. That's a big, heavy weight there. So I would want to know what's really going on. I would want to talk to him, by the way, I'd get. So I would get. I do two things. I'd sit down with the parents and have your parents tell you what's going on and ask them what their expectations are. Not because you feel you have to do what they say, but I would just want to read the room and I'd want to know what mom and dad said I'd want to be looking for. Are they making excuses for him? And I think you'll pick up on that pretty quickly. Have they enabled him? Okay, I'd want to know that. Then I'd want to sit with brother and get his take and go, what's your plan if mom and dad are gone? Like, let's have these conversations so that. And let's do it in A way that tries to get everything out on the table. Jade. Like, let's get all the pieces of the game board out.
Jade
I'd push for evaluation, too.
Ken
I would. That's a great. That's a third thing. So there's a checklist of three things, at which point you now have a lot more information than you do today.
Caller
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think the challenge is. I mean, you're right. These are conversations that have to happen. My family has always been pretty close to the vest. My mom's favorite saying was, you know, don't. We don't air our dirty laundry in public. So it's hard to kind of get them to come out of their shell. But it is reaching the point where something's going to give and it's going to give disastrously or we can be prepared for it.
Jade
You're right. Yeah. I think Ken is spot on with that checklist of three items. And then from there on, you can really evaluate your options. I don't know that there is a world, because if he's getting evaluated, let's pretend it comes back and there is something there. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to try to get into it, but there's a lot of nuance in what you're able to, you know, do and not do and accomplish and not accomplish and what sort of care you might need or what type of therapies you might need. And so that opens a whole other world of possibilities once you get this information. And I think today you're a detective.
Caller
Right.
Ken
I agree. So that you can decide what's my role as a steward? You know, so the question becomes what happens? Let's fast forward to. Because you called, what do you think? Let's assume. And Jade kind of hit you on this. But how would you react if they were again, gone? What would you do today, knowing what little you know?
Caller
Yeah. If it were to happen today, I'm afraid I would just shut down, to be honest, with regards to that situation, because it has been so polarizing and emotional within our family. My parents, I know, are frustrated with him living there, but every time they have tried to talk to him about it, he shuts down, and they don't really get any answers. So it's really hard to navigate. But something's got to give.
Ken
Okay, so what does shut down mean? Meaning that you act like it doesn't exist and he. You're. He's dead to you. Kind of a deal. Shut down or. Or what?
Caller
I guess shut down in terms of maybe just yeah, walking. Walking away from the situation, just being overwhelmed, not knowing what to do, how to handle him when he's been supported and enabled his. His whole life.
Ken
Yeah. This is why, again, we got to go back to. I think what you would have to do is not shut down, but hopefully you do this now, so if this happens, you're ready. You know, is he in a situation where he would be a ward of the state or some type of, you know, and that's a lot.
Jade
It's going to probably pass through Medicaid, like, if. If they play their cards right. Yeah. There should be something there for him which is so important to do those first steps.
Ken
Yeah. Okay. Well, that's what I wanted to know. I wanted to. And so that tells me that. So the reason I asked that question is because I wanted to know where your head is and your heart. And it sounds to me like your head and heart are aligned. That you don't think you should help him. And quite frankly, you don't want to. That still may not be an option. Right. You may have to on some level. And so I think that's why you're going to have to do this digging that we talked about. And then that'll help you, you know, kind of inform your plan. But gee whiz, I want you to have a plan if it's anywhere close to have to.
Caller
Yeah.
Ken
That's the goal. So I hope that helps. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.
Caller
Thank you. That's very helpful.
Ken
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This episode tackles a listener’s deeply personal dilemma: Her 45-year-old brother, who has hardly ever worked, has lived with and been fully supported by their aging, retired parents since the pandemic began. With their parents’ health declining, the caller fears she will be expected to become her brother’s caretaker after their passing. Ken Coleman and Jade Warshaw offer heartfelt, values-driven advice on how to navigate the intersection of moral responsibility and practical limitations, emphasizing boundaries, proactive planning, and the need for clarity about her brother’s real needs and abilities.
For listeners facing similar dilemmas:
Don’t wait until a family crisis to get answers. Have honest conversations now, push past unhelpful secrecy, and make sure any future obligations are chosen, not assumed.
This episode is a concise, empathetic guide for any listener facing complicated, high-stakes family dependency or support questions, centering on preparation, boundaries, and values-based action.