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My parents are in their late 70s. They're faithful Christians. They have been their whole life. As they've gotten older, me and my siblings have been considering how we can help them to age well and whether we'll need to take care of them. My dad has worked a ministry job his whole life and they've never had much money, but they're very private about money. So recently they've expressed several times that they don't have enough money to retire. I don't think they understand money at all. And we're also concerned that they're giving a lot of money to various ministries because they're really looking forward to being in heaven and they want to spread the gospel far and wide before they get there. They've also told us, and I do think they firmly believe that they're going to be raptured before they die. So we all love them very much. But we're also concerned that they may not have enough to take care of them. And we want to be prepared to take care of them if we need to do that, that they aren't willing to talk to us about it. Is this something we just let go or how can we respectfully love them for the rest of their years without any information?
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Well, first, as a fellow Christian, I hope they're right. Come quickly, Lord Jesus. Right. But I don't think we lay out our plans. The Bible that I have read doesn't teach me to lay out our plans as if I'm not going to retire because the Rapture is going to be my bailout. Instead, the Bible says in the house of the wise are stores of choice, food and oil. The Bible does talk a lot about God as our provider and that he cares about us and he has a plan for us and not to worry and all those kinds of things. And that's all very true as well. But the Bible then, on the other hand, it says if you don't work, you don't eat. That's in the Bible. And it says if you don't plant corn, don't expect corn. You're going to reap what you sow. And if you sow sparingly, meaning very few kernels of corn, please expect very few corn stalks to come up out of the ground. That's a cause and effect thing in Scripture. God's talking about. This is the land in which we live, the world in which we live. And as Rachel said the other day on the show, God Gave us a brain and we're supposed to use it to reason as well. And so spiritually planning for the Rapture I agree with and I'm on board for. Let's all, where's the line? I'll get in the line. Okay. But also while I'm here and we don't know the date or the time, Very clear in scripture that we're not going to know the date or the time of his return. Then listen, identity theft doesn't happen because you're careless. It's part of the modern world. Even when you do everything right, criminals can steal your information and turn your life upside down. That's why I've told people for years to have identity theft protection. And the only one I've ever recommended is from Zander Insurance. They monitor for fraud. And if something happens, they do do the hard work to restore your identity. Go to zander.com and protect yourself today. Very clear in scripture that we're not going to know the date or the time of his return. Out of Jesus own mouth those words were spoken. And so given that, then we have to plan as if we're going to be here. And then that plan works if we're not here or if we're here. Their plan only works if we're not here. So anyway, end of sermon, end of doctrinal lesson.
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Okay, thank you for your TED Talk.
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How do we love these sweet, precious people who care about other people wanting to meet God, meet Jesus, and they're willing to live on almost nothing and barely get by so that they can accomplish that. What impact they can have on the world for. For the Lord they are having. And their thumbprints are going to be all over people's names in heaven. And they're just wonderful people. So how do we love them? Well, and they're secretive partly because how
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do we take care of them.
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Yeah, they're partly, partly secretive because they're ashamed. They're partly secretive because they're ashamed. They're not ashamed of the gospel. They're not ashamed of their ministry mindset, but they know that they haven't done a good job with money and it's bothers them. And so we got to.
C
It's almost easier in a weird way to have an excuse for the fear that, oh gosh, we're not. Well, it's okay. We're going to.
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You.
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You cling on to something.
A
Yeah, we didn't do a good job. I'm going to blame it on the Rapture.
C
Yeah.
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You know, and so now how do you help them? Gently and lovingly. Because 100% chance a 78 year old with this mindset is not going to change.
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Right? Exactly.
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We'll say 98%. We'll give you 2% hope.
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Yeah, but I mean, I don't want to go in. I don't want to enter the conversation thinking they're going to be transformed financially. I don't think they are. I think they're pretty well set on giving everything away in Jesus name. And I gotta say, that's a wonderful person. My goodness, what wonderful people. So I think you siblings band together and you just check in on them every so often, make sure that the property taxes are paid, that there's groceries in the cabinet, don't open the cabinet, and the only thing in there is dog food. And they haven't got a dog. Right. I mean, so that kind of thing happens in these situations. So just check in on the refrigerator and how it's stocked. And hey, we just bought a beef and the three of us are going to share it and we're going to bring a bunch of it over and put it in your refrigerator. And hey, I just got a friend that's got some chickens and we all bought a bunch of eggs. Here, I'm going to bring you some stuff. And I just went by a Kroger and they were having a sale and Publix was having a sale and mom, I brought you a bag of stuff to put in there. And so just make sure the electric bill is paid and you guys can just kind of subtly poke around without getting them on a full plan like they actually should be well.
C
And thankfully in. I guess the positive side of some of this too, Kate, is they're so low maintenance, they're used to living on basically nothing versus some people call in and their parents are living the high life and have nothing in retirement and they're going to expect the same and they expect their kids to take. You know what I mean? There's like a whole entitlement side where this story could have been. But for them, their, their motivation and attitude in a weird way is, is, you know, I don't say endearing because I don't think it's wise, but it's easier to help someone that has a level of humility and sacrificial heart. Do you know what I mean? It's not entitled to do all that. Yes.
A
Yeah, they're not, they're not brats.
C
Are you guys. Kate, are you and your siblings in a good place financially just to Do a bare minimum, like what he was just explaining.
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We are. There are certain of our families that are going to be more able to do it than others. I think specifically our family would be able to contribute more. And so those of us who may be able to contribute are just wanting to understand what they mean by the fact that they don't have enough money so we can prepare for how we need to help them. But we really haven't been able to prepare at all.
A
You could just do it in an honoring way, say mom and dad, you all have done such work for the kingdom and you know, scripture says that your children will rise up and call you blessed. And we're standing here calling you blessed. Blessed. Blessed. And one way you're blessed is your children are standing here and we want to love you. If you'll tell us some of the basic things, we want to help, but you're going to have to kind of tell us what we need to help with.
C
Yeah. Do you even know, Kate, if the house is paid off or anything? Like, do you have any range?
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It is, yep. They have a small home, but it's paid off. And they have two paid off cars. So that's a good consolation is that they have a place to live. They're not worried about that.
C
Yeah, yeah.
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Food, lights, water, property tax.
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Yep, yep. Check in on the food, check in on the property taxes. And then what about like, again, we have a little bit of concern that they're still giving a lot of money away. I just don't think there's much we can do about that. I mean, it's their money and probably
A
some of the ministries that they're giving to. Yeah, probably some of the stuff they're giving to they shouldn't be is probably irresponsible. But so what? There's nothing you can talk, right. Unless they ask. If they ask, you can say, but if you can start a conversation. And they, then they say, well, honey, you think we ought to do this one? And you say, well, mom, let's look at how they spend their money. Let's look at how they're, you know, oh, wait a minute, mom. They spend 90 cents of every dollar on the guy that runs his salary. And the hungry kids only get 10 cents of every dollar. Well, I don't think we need to be. Mom, that's not a very good deal for the hungry kids.
C
And mom wants to make sure you're not hungry first.
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Episode: My Parents Think the Rapture Is Their Retirement Plan
Date: July 10, 2026
Host: Ramsey Network
Key Hosts/Experts: Dave Ramsey (A), Co-Host (C), Caller “Kate” (B)
This episode addresses a heartfelt and complex question from “Kate,” whose aging parents are deeply faithful Christians and believe the Rapture may precede their need for retirement planning. The family is worried about their parents’ financial insecurity, their secretive approach to money, and continued generosity toward ministries despite a lack of savings. The hosts explore how to provide loving support while respecting the parents' worldview, and offer practical, scripturally based advice for navigating this sensitive situation.
“First, as a fellow Christian, I hope they’re right. Come quickly, Lord Jesus.” (01:26)
“The Bible… says if you don't work, you don't eat. That's in the Bible. And it says if you don't plant corn, don't expect corn.” (02:02) “Very clear in scripture that we're not going to know the date or the time of his return... we have to plan as if we're going to be here. Their plan only works if we're not here.” (03:35)
"They're partly secretive because they're ashamed. They're not ashamed of the gospel... but they know that they haven't done a good job with money and it bothers them.” (04:44)
“You cling on to something. Yeah, we didn't do a good job—I'm going to blame it on the Rapture.” (05:09)
“100% chance a 78-year-old with this mindset is not going to change.” (05:14)
“Their motivation and attitude in a weird way is, you know, I don't say endearing because I don't think it's wise, but it's easier to help someone that has a level of humility and sacrificial heart.” (06:41)
“There are certain of our families that are going to be more able to do it than others. I think specifically our family would be able to contribute more.” (07:28)
“You could just do it in an honoring way, say Mom and Dad, you all have done such work for the kingdom… and we want to love you. If you'll tell us some of the basic things, we want to help.” (07:53)
Kate confirms parents’ house and cars are paid off.
Hosts build a checklist: food, lights, water, property taxes.
On their continued charitable giving, A suggests:
“Probably some of the stuff they're giving to they shouldn't be is probably irresponsible. But so what? There's nothing you can talk, right. Unless they ask.” (08:55)
Encourages gentle questioning if parents seek advice, focusing on transparency and impact of donations.
C and A underscore a biblical admonition:
“Take care of your own household first, or you’re worse than an unbeliever. These are all scriptural things.” (09:35)
Dave Ramsey:
“Very clear in scripture that we're not going to know the date or the time of his return... we have to plan as if we're going to be here. Their plan only works if we're not here.” (03:35) “You could just do it in an honoring way... your children will rise up and call you blessed.” (07:53) “Take care of your own household first, or you're worse than an unbeliever. These are all scriptural things.” (09:35)
Co-Host:
“Their motivation and attitude... is, you know, I don't say endearing because I don't think it's wise, but it's easier to help someone that has a level of humility and sacrificial heart.” (06:41)
The episode delivers empathetic, practical advice for adult children supporting parents who are financially unprepared for retirement due to faith-driven choices and a focus on generosity. The hosts guide families toward subtle, respectful intervention—rooted in love and scriptural wisdom—acknowledging both the limits of influence and the importance of honoring parents’ lifelong values. The discussion balances compassion, realism, and actionable steps for those facing similar circumstances.