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Dave Ramsey
Brought to you by the EveryDollar app. Start budgeting for free today. Jim and Sarah are in Michigan. Hi guys. How are you?
Jim
Pretty well, Mr. Ramsey. Thank you for taking our call. We're anxious to talk to you, sir.
Dave Ramsey
Our Honor. How can we help?
Jim
Well, we've been married for 40 years and we've gone through a lot of finances successfully. We've managed to save a substantial lot of money. And about three years ago I acquired a 30 foot sailboat and it cost roughly $6,000 a year to own and operate.
Dave Ramsey
What did you pay for the 30 foot sailboat?
Jim
Well, my neighbor gave it to me. Or I should say Jesus gave it to me free, to be more accurate.
Dave Ramsey
He gave you a 30 foot sailboat free?
Sarah
Jesus did?
Yes. Three. We have three sailboats given to us for free. Three.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, you currently own only one.
Sarah
No, we own three.
Dave Ramsey
You currently own three sailboats.
Sarah
Jesus.
Dave Ramsey
Three free sailboats. And you said, you said you'd piled up a substantial. Hey, Jim, you said you'd piled up a substantial amount of money. What's your all's net worth?
Sarah
Not that much.
Jim
About 3.7 million.
Sarah
Sarah. Not that much. She said not that much. That's pretty good, Sarah.
Well, I listen to you every day for two hours and we could do better, you know.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, so what are the three sailboats worth?
Sarah
The cars all together. The cars and the sailboats.
Dave Ramsey
Now I asked what the sailboats are worth.
Sarah
The sailboats altogether are worth $7,000. And we have a camper worth $500.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, so a 30 foot sailboat is worth 2,000 of the seven or 3,000 of the seven. Jim, does that sound right to you? 5,000. Okay, so you got two junkers and one good one. Okay, you have a $5,000 sailboat, but you want to spend $6,000 a year to keep a $5,000 thing alive. I'm confused.
Sarah
I am too.
Dave Ramsey
Now. Jim. Jim, we already figured out what you want to do, Sarah. Jim, why do you want to spend 6,000 to keep something that's 5,000 alive?
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Dave Ramsey
Jim, why do you want to spend 6,000 to keep something that's 5,000 alive?
Jim
Well, that's just normal costs of marinas.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Jim
Marina swift. And then launching and recovery in the spring and fall.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Jim
And, you know, minor incidental.
Dave Ramsey
It's not that much. But I kind of expected that when you said you were spending 6,000 on it that it'd be worth 30,000 or something.
Jim
Well, you know, it's worth what you can get on and on a good day, but, you know, it could easily be worth.
Sarah
No, no. $5,000. 5,000.
Dave Ramsey
And we met. There's a bit of a discrepancy here, boys and girls. Yes, y' all are fun.
Jim
Well, you know, with old sailboats, it's what you can get for it. On it.
Dave Ramsey
No, really, Jim. The stinking thing has a market value. Seriously, it's. The range of value is not between 5 and 30. It's one or the other.
Sarah
You know that thousand dollars?
Dave Ramsey
Where did you get that number? Sarah, you sound so sure.
Sarah
The insurance.
Jim
What?
Sarah
The insurance.
Dave Ramsey
Insurance does not determine value.
Sarah
Okay, then I'm wrong. Okay, it is between 5 and $12,000. Possibly.
Dave Ramsey
But if you put a sign on it, you might sell it for 12,000.
Sarah
No, you can't sell it. It's so bad. People can't give them away.
Dave Ramsey
Well, they did to you.
Sarah
That's the problem.
Jim
Yes, sir.
Sarah
And so far, he spent $30,000. 37 do and 86 cents on a boat that people give to you. 30. Over $30,000 on a.
Dave Ramsey
You've had it five years.
Jim
About three. This is my third summer with it.
Sarah
And he spent $30,000 and 37.
Yeah, but we're talking like five. I don't know.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Sarah
Bucks a month.
Dave Ramsey
There's two issues here, okay?
Jim
I don't know.
Dave Ramsey
Jim, we're not gonna make Sarah happy. Okay? Sarah's not going to be happy with a sailboat.
Sarah
Sarah's not happy with 1.7. She's.
Dave Ramsey
We know that. We know that Sarah's not going to be happy with a sailboat. So then the question is, Sarah, if you take the value of the sailboat and what you spend on it and you burn it in the middle of the floor, does it change your life when you have $3.7 million if you take $6,000 and. And throw it out the window as you drive along the interstate? No, it does not change your life. So this is not a deal breaker. You're not gonna be Poor on food stamps because of Jim's sailboat. Sarah, you're fine. You can afford to do this. It's not a big deal. But, Jim, you probably do need to think about. Are you still sitting on the other two boats as well?
Jim
Yes, I. I can only count one other sailboat. Except for a model sailboat in the living room.
Sarah
No, no, no. We have another boat. Another boat?
Jim
Oh, another boat, but not a sailboat.
Sarah
Well, yes, we have another boat.
Jim
Oh, you mean the rowboat?
Sarah
Yeah.
Jim
Oh, yes, sir. We have a 12 foot aluminum boat. Yeah, that's true.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Sarah
And a camper.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. Okay. And. All right. And so other than mess with gym, Sarah, what are your hobbies?
Sarah
Well, actually, to be honest with you, I'd actually like a kitchen sink.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, hey, Jim, it's going to cost you a kitchen sink. Jim, Remodel the whole freaking kitchen as your trade out.
Jim
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
All right. You two cheapskates are made for each other. Y' all are fun. I love y'. All. You're great. Listen, $3.7 million, if it's growing at 10%, is growing at a rate of $370,000 a year. And we're having a discussion here about an aluminum 14 foot rowboat and a kitchen sink, y'.
Jim
All.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, you need to back up about three notches, pan your camera back and start enjoying some of this money. Now, being tight and smart is what got you here, but now you need to enjoy some of it. And If Sarah, if $6,000 makes Jim happy, it's $6,000. You can afford it. Okay. And Jim, if getting rid of the aluminum rowboat and the camper and the odd sailboat makes her happy, get rid of them and remodel her kitchen, too. You guys can afford to do all of that, but don't major in miners. It's stealing your piece.
Jim
Okay, yeah, well, when she says remodel, we have a three year old home and a triple. Okay, All I'm saying is buy her a sink. All I'm saying is she wants me to tear that out and go down and get her a commercial sink like you find in the good McDonald's.
Dave Ramsey
And I don't want you to do it. I want you to pay somebody to do it.
Sarah
Well, they're high grade steel. They're high grade steel?
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, like, kind of like an aluminum boat. It's high grade.
Sarah
Use the aluminum from the aluminum boat, make you a sink. We're going to recycle two birds with one stone.
Dave Ramsey
Hey, guys. Well, listen, you're stepping over dollars. You're stepping over dollars and pick up nickels and it's stealing your fun. It's stealing your fun. So there's stuff that my wife buys that I do not understand, but she gets joy from it. And what I do. What I do get joy from is her getting joy. There's stuff that I buy that she has. Absolutely. She thinks it's stupid when I buy it, but she doesn't hassle me about it because we have the money and I get joy from it, and she wants to see me get joy. So let's major in. You guys giving each other some joy, starting going forward here. Okay?
Sarah
You knew. It's a funny call me. We've been married 40 years and she's like, 41. 41.
Dave Ramsey
We ain't got any money. We're broke. It's only 3.7 million.
Sarah
We didn't do good. We didn't do good. They were funny.
Dave Ramsey
Y' all are great. That was so fun.
Sarah
Oh, my gosh.
Dave Ramsey
Hey, give each other some grace and love and to the tune of about 30,000 bucks each and just go blow some money on your 41 year marriage. What a wonderful thing to do. It won't. You won't even know it happened. You'll still have 3.7 million. Create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
Episode: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Spend $6,000 A Year On A Sailboat
Date: September 20, 2025
Host: Dave Ramsey
Guests: Jim and Sarah from Michigan
This lively and humorous episode centers on Jim and Sarah, a married couple of 40 years, who call in to navigate a disagreement: Jim wants to keep spending $6,000 per year maintaining a sailboat that was given to him, while Sarah questions both the financial logic and the accumulation of “junk” boats. With a net worth of $3.7 million, their debate opens up broader questions about spending, enjoying money, and marital compromise in retirement.
The episode is lighthearted and playful, with Dave Ramsey mixing practical wisdom, gentle teasing, and encouragement. The main takeaway is that, for those who have been disciplined savers and are now financially secure, it’s important to find a balance between frugality and enjoying the fruits of their labor—especially when it comes to marital happiness and compromise on “fun money” spending.
Final Thought:
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