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Caller
Brought to you by the EveryDollar app. Start budgeting for free. Today my wife and I were on baby step two. We're making great progress. Matter of fact, earlier today, I made the last payment on a credit card. Got it paid off.
Dave Ramsey
Atta boy. Way to go, dude.
Caller
We did. We're getting it. Honestly, I'm loving it. And I told my wife I don't care if I'm a multi millionaire, I'm still going to be shopping at thrift stores. I don't see the reason to change that.
Dave Ramsey
Very good.
Caller
Now what's going on right now is with my. It's with my mother in law.
Financial Coach/Advisor
She.
Caller
My wife and I have been married for several years. We have a son. I work so she can stay home and be with our son. And I'm very grateful to be able to do that. She is very, very pushy when it comes to money and she's made some really stupid financial decisions and she's gotten, she's tried to force my hand several times. When we, when we first got married, I lived in Georgia. She moved in with me, of course, after we got married.
Dave Ramsey
Are you talking about, you talking about your wife or your mother in law?
Caller
Who's pushing my mother in law? Lord help us. Not my wife. She. So my mother in law was pushing me to sell my house at a time when the market was down and we'd have been 20 grand in the hole had I sold it at that time. She tried to get my wife to leave me if I refused to sell it at that time.
Financial Coach/Advisor
Oh boy.
Caller
And she's pulled stunts like that several times and recently tried to get me to buy a house. And I told her, look, the market is up. If I buy it, the market's going to correct and we're going to lose a ton of money.
Dave Ramsey
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
Financial Coach/Advisor
on, hold on, hold on.
Dave Ramsey
This has nothing to do with markets like it says I do with any of that stuff. The only thing that matters here is you continuing to give your mother in law's wisdom and her advice and her threats and her demands. All of that is about power. That's not about homeownership.
Caller
It is and it's. My wife is kind of a good child and so she's always been scared to not do what her mom says. She's gotten a whole lot better. She's come a long way. I'm really proud of her.
Financial Coach/Advisor
How does your mother in law even know the things that are going on
Dave Ramsey
in your house?
Financial Coach/Advisor
Is your wife telling her? Is your wife Talking to her about things that they shouldn't be talking about.
Caller
She's not said a whole lot, but she does tell her some things. And early on in our marriage, she told her too much. She's quit doing that.
Financial Coach/Advisor
Good.
Dave Ramsey
Okay? She needs to be the one that tells her mom. Hey mom, thank you for the wisdom and the advice, but me and my husband got this.
Caller
Yeah, and I guess one of the questions. Part of the problem is I told my wife, look, we're going to have to draw some lines in the sand with your mom. And there's going to have to. She crosses those, there's going to be have to be consequences. Wait, wait.
Dave Ramsey
Why, why don't you just let her mom say what she's going to say and you'll go on about your lives.
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Dave Ramsey
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Financial Coach/Advisor
Yeah. What's a consequence in your mind?
Caller
Well, it's. She's. I, I honestly don't know at the moment. It's just she's cause conflict between my wife and I over this.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, but, but you, your, your mother in law is becoming a proxy war for the real issue which is are you and your wife aligned on how y' all want to do your life?
Caller
We are much more so. I'm honestly, the longer we've been married, the more aligned we are.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, I, I want y' all to recenter back on that. My, my dad and I see different differences in politics. We see differences in economic. We see differences all over the place. And so when I'm around him, you know what he does? He does what a dad should do, which is he tries to tell me what I need to know. Right. And I get to decide. I'm cutting you off or I can listen. And there's been some wisdom in some of the stuff he's told me over the years, in fact, there's been a ton of wisdom and a lot of it. I go, that's great, man. As for you and your house, you and my mom, y' all get to do that. But me and my house, me and my wife, we're gonna do something different. It's great.
Financial Coach/Advisor
Right?
Dave Ramsey
Right.
Caller
Fair enough.
Dave Ramsey
And if she's actively trying to divide you and your wife, that's the real issue, is that your wife has to put her foot down on that because that's her mom.
Caller
Right.
Dave Ramsey
And if she won't, then you and your wife have an issue, not you and your mother in law.
Caller
And, you know, we've come along, like I said, we don't really have as much, near as much of an issue anymore. I mean, my wife is.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, whoops. Go ahead, brother. Sorry, man.
Caller
No, it's all right. My wife has kind of come into her own quite a bit. She was very scared to make her mom mad when we first got married. She's no longer that way.
Financial Coach/Advisor
Sure.
Dave Ramsey
And that's common. That's common.
Financial Coach/Advisor
So it's gotten better. But something is, it's. Even though it's gotten better, you're still pushed to the point of calling a radio show.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. Your mom, your, your mother in law can't force you to do anything legally, morally, ethically. Spirit like you, you can't be, you can't feel forced. Right. You can just hang up the phone.
Caller
Right. Fair enough. I think that's the place to start. Think that's where we need to start. We're working on life goals and we're gonna homeschool our son. And I mean, we're very old school, traditional Christians, conservatives and great.
Dave Ramsey
I mean, it only matters if you and your wife are aligned on this. And then when y' all get aligned on it, then y' all decide together who gets a vote.
Caller
Right. And my position is if you're not paying the bills, you don't get a vote.
Financial Coach/Advisor
What does that mean?
Dave Ramsey
I.
Caller
Well, if you're not part of our household, I should clarify that because my wife stays home with my.
Financial Coach/Advisor
That's what I was thinking. Okay. Okay.
Caller
She clearly gets a ton. I mean, because she's working regardless.
Dave Ramsey
Well, listen, and for whatever it's worth, I've got other men and women in my life who don't pay my bills, that I've given permission to speak into my life. If they see me acting in a way or saying things that they're like, hey, that's not you or you're about to do something stupid with your money. Like, I've given them permission. I'm not just gonna, like Lone Ranger, this thing. That's how people, like, just ride their horse off the cliff. But all I have to say is, you can't do that until you and your wife are aligned on who we are going to be.
Caller
That's. That's good advice. I mean, our. Our pastor's been a great help to us, and I've been forever grateful for his wisdom. I've been grateful for you guys wisdom because following the baby steps, I'm really loving it.
Dave Ramsey
Well, that's awesome. But, but, but I think personally, and Dave and I have talked about this over dinner before, multiple times. I think the magic of the baby steps is in married couples. It. It. It's a way to force alignment or waste to not force alignment, but to force discussions about alignment. And when a. When a. When a couple gets aligned, there's just no stopping them. But if. If one of y' all is all aligned on your values and you're dragging somebody else along on these baby steps and their. And their mother keeps calling to pull you off, and it becomes even a conversation that tells me you and your wife aren't fully aligned on where are we going and who are we going to be? And then who gets a vote into the steps? We're.
Caller
You've given me some things to think about.
Dave Ramsey
Is that fair?
Caller
And. No, it's very fair. You give me some things to think about. Actually, it's.
Dave Ramsey
Can I tell you a way to do this? Because I have a feeling you're going to go home and tell your wife you're not aligned with me. And that would be the wrong way.
Caller
Not at all. Not at all. Absolutely.
Dave Ramsey
Here's what I want you to do. I want you, not her. I want you to call somebody to watch your son for about three or four hours one Saturday morning. You set it up, and then you take your wife and say, I want us to have a dreaming retreat. We're into this baby. We're into this baby steps thing. We're paying off our debts, but we started sprinting before we really counted the cost of how far we're going to run here. Who do we want to be? And you'll dream about what you want your house to look like, what town you want to live in as a part of that. We're going to dream about who gets a vote in our life. And y' all come away from that retreat totally unified. You get what I'm saying I do.
Caller
I love it. My wife will love that too.
Dave Ramsey
Awesome. Excellent. My brother. Deciding the identity First, I'm going to be the kind of person who takes care of themselves. I'm going to be the kind of person and borrow money. Then I'm going to reverse engineer goals and steps that allow me to get to that identity, not just take off sprinting to follow the next goal. Right? If you chase an identity with action, you'll get there.
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Host: Ramsey Network (featuring Dave Ramsey and a Financial Coach/Advisor)
Date: February 22, 2026
In this episode, Dave Ramsey and a Financial Coach/Advisor take a call from a listener dealing with persistent and disruptive financial interference from his mother-in-law. The caller reveals tension in his marriage regarding boundaries with his wife’s mother, who has pushed for drastic actions such as selling their house and even attempted to influence his wife to leave him over financial decisions. The discussion centers on marital alignment, setting healthy boundaries with extended family, and prioritizing unity between spouses, with practical, compassionate advice from Dave and the team.
“Your mother in law is becoming a proxy war for the real issue which is are you and your wife aligned on how y'all want to do your life?” (03:26 – 03:36)
"I want you, not her. I want you to call somebody to watch your son for about three or four hours one Saturday morning... then you take your wife and say, I want us to have a dreaming retreat... Who do we want to be? ...As part of that, we're going to dream about who gets a vote in our life. And y'all come away from that retreat totally unified.” (07:43 – 08:25)
“Deciding the identity First... Then I'm going to reverse engineer goals and steps that allow me to get to that identity, not just take off sprinting to follow the next goal.” (08:27)
This episode offers a potent discussion for couples facing external family pressure, especially when it threatens marital unity and wise financial decision-making. Dave Ramsey and his team guide the caller to prioritize alignment with his spouse over any external counsel, suggesting concrete steps like a "dreaming retreat" to foster unity and articulate shared values—making it clear that external input only matters when the couple stands together. The tone is empathetic, practical, and focused on mutual respect and healthy boundaries.