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Caller
Basically I'm 25. I just had twins two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
Financial Advisor 1
Congrats.
Caller
And I actually had a stroke last week, a small one. But I'm doing better now and I'm back at work actually.
Financial Advisor 2
Oh my goodness.
Caller
Wow. I, yeah, I have, I also have a toddler. He's two. And that being said, about two years ago when my son was first born, I got into a really horrible financial decision. This is before I knew the Dave Ramsey show and everything that you all preach about. I got a call from my wife because we needed two vehicles. I was working out of town and when I say I have a horrible interest rate, it's horrible, it's 22%. It was a stupid decision. I'm debating on either doing a voluntary repossession. It's not that I can't afford the vehicle, but it's just I've had the vehicle two years and $2,000 has been paid towards the principal. $500 a month payments. Another thing being said, I did recently get approved to get it refinanced at a lower interest rate. Still not great, but 13%.
Financial Advisor 1
I'll take it.
Caller
I'm basically asking if I should refinance it or just go ahead and do a voluntary repossession.
Financial Advisor 2
Why can't. How far underwater are you?
Caller
It's. It's pretty bad. The vehicle is worth 7,500 and I owe about 18, 2. It's when I. It's a horrible decision on my part. At the time I was extremely, extremely desperate for a vehicle. Went to the first place I could even look around. She needed a vehicle and I needed my truck for work. I was working about four hours from home at the time and staying out of town. And she of course had our newborn son, my oldest one, who is currently 2.
Financial Advisor 2
What other debt do you have?
Caller
I have a credit card owe $400 on. I'm actually going to pay that off today. And then I have my truck which I owe $7,000 on that. The truck loan, it is a low interest rate because I did a collateral loan on it. We moved into a house, renting it and it was. What's the truck worth? The truck's worth pretty much what I owe on it. It's worth about 9, 500. And then I have a vehicle that is paid off, another truck. So my. The reason I was debating voluntary repossession, the Jeep was. I would give her the truck that I currently owe on. It's a, It's a nicer truck, big back seat, it'll fit all three of the kids. The double stroller in the back and it's got the best AC I've ever.
Financial Advisor 2
Why can't you drive the paid off truck and sell the truck?
Caller
I'm currently doing. I'm currently driving my paid off vehicle.
Financial Advisor 1
Okay.
Caller
For work, I'm a welder. And then my other truck, it's.
Financial Advisor 1
You said there's 2,000 in equity in that one.
Caller
Yeah, I could probably. If I were to sell this one, the paid off one, I could probably get about six or seven thousand dollars for it.
Financial Advisor 1
So why can't you sell that one and drive the one that's got 7,000 to go?
Caller
Because it's kind of a funny situation with that one. That one. I, I don't necessarily make the payment on it, if that makes sense. I'm my. I have 12 siblings and my younger. One of my younger brothers is actually making the payment on it every month. So he pays the insurance, he pays the payment. It was to kind of help him out in a sense and to kind of get rid of that payment for me.
Financial Advisor 2
How is that helping him out? Well, because he's making a payment on a car he doesn't drive.
Financial Advisor 1
Is he on it or did you guys co sign together?
Caller
No, IT loans completely in my name. My dad wrote us up a contract to where once the. The loans paid off, the title goes to him. And then if for some reason he doesn't want the vehicle by the time he pays it off, then everything he put into it, if he does not get any of it back, it would just go towards the loan balance.
Financial Advisor 2
And then I was, okay, this, this financial inbreeding, it needs to stop. This is chaos what you guys have done to your family's finances.
Caller
Yeah, it's kind of a sticky situation because he's 18 and he's. He was, he went out and about and he was going to be in the same situation I was in. He was actually call. He called me for advice today. He was about to. I'm the last one you want to.
Financial Advisor 1
Call, so, so let's not go down. That's not. Trace that rabbit too far. So the car is supposed to go to him. There's 2,000 in equity in it. He's been paying the note. Can you just get this out of your hair and just.
Caller
Yeah, so that's our next step with the, with the bank. We're actually talking to the bank about getting the truck that I have the loan on out of my name and financing it into his name. The only situation with that is because he's only 18, they're wanting to give him a lot higher interest rate. Okay, but that's nothing down or nothing.
Financial Advisor 1
That's not your problem. You need to give him the ultimatum of hey, this weekend we either go and move this into your name or I'm keeping it and I'm doing what I will with it. Like that ends this weekend. That's, that's what I'm doing.
Financial Advisor 2
And then what's your household income right now? Is wife staying home with the kids?
Caller
Yeah, she's a stay at home mom. I make about currently probably $5,000 a month net.
Financial Advisor 2
Okay, you guys have a lot of car in your life. You either need to save up the difference that you're underwater on or you need to go get a loan for the difference to lower your debt amount. I don't know that you qualify for that. But do not do a voluntary repo. It's going to destroy your financial life. They're going to sell it at auction for pennies versus what you could sell it for and then you're still going to owe the difference. Do not do this.
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Summary of "This Financial Inbreeding Needs To Stop!" Episode of The Ramsey Show Highlights
Release Date: June 27, 2025
Introduction
In the episode titled "This Financial Inbreeding Needs To Stop!", The Ramsey Show Highlights delves into the complexities of family financial obligations and the pitfalls of interdependent debt arrangements. A caller reaches out seeking advice on managing multiple vehicle loans under challenging circumstances, highlighting the broader issue of "financial inbreeding" within families.
Caller’s Financial Predicament
The episode begins with a 25-year-old caller who recently welcomed twins into his family and has been grappling with significant financial decisions. The caller shares his recent health scare—a minor stroke—and his return to work, indicating the stress that financial burdens have placed on his life.
Key Points Discussed:
High-Interest Vehicle Loans:
Refinancing vs. Voluntary Repossession:
Family’s Involvement in Debt:
Advisors’ Recommendations:
Actionable Steps:
Insights and Conclusions
The episode underscores the dangers of mixing family relations with financial obligations, leading to complex and often detrimental situations—termed here as "financial inbreeding." The advisors advocate for clear boundaries and professional financial management to prevent familial relationships from being strained by monetary issues.
Key Takeaways:
Avoid Mixing Family and Finances: Engaging family members in debt can lead to confusion, resentment, and financial instability.
Seek Professional Advice: When faced with high-interest debts, consulting financial advisors can provide pathways to more sustainable financial health.
Take Decisive Action: Addressing problematic loans promptly helps prevent long-term financial damage and preserves family relationships.
Conclusion
"This Financial Inbreeding Needs To Stop!" serves as a cautionary tale about the complexities that arise when financial decisions are made under pressure and involve family members. By highlighting real-life scenarios and expert advice, The Ramsey Show Highlights reinforces the importance of sound financial planning and the perils of entangled debts within families.