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I just have a couple of questions. I'll start off with that. I feel like I cannot move out of my parents house due to financial struggles that they are having. And I'm also having as well.
C
Okay, so what causes you not to be able to move out because of their financial struggles? Walk me through that.
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They need your rent, basically.
B
Yes, sir. And so, so since I moved back in, I've been trying to get rid of my debt and start following the baby steps.
A
But you pay them rent?
B
No, I do not.
A
Oh. How would it affect them negatively if you left?
B
So they're. Right now they're in a rental property and their city is actually planning on demolishing the area that they are in.
A
Is this the house you live in?
B
Correct.
A
How would it affect them negatively if you left?
B
Because I don't think they could, you know, I don't think they could move into a new house without you're not.
A
Paying them any rent.
B
That's true.
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But there's no net loss to them when you leave. It's a net gain.
B
Yes, that, that is true. Because whenever they do have to move, eventually the rent that they're paying will be up more.
A
Oh yeah.
B
Than what they're paying right now.
A
And then you would pay, you would start paying rent.
B
Correct.
A
To help them do that. Okay.
B
Correct.
A
Bad solution.
B
Yeah. So that's why I feel kind of stuck. And I'm not stuck.
A
It's just you got, you need to. Everybody's got to reset their expectations in this.
B
Right.
A
They're in an unrealistically low rental rate on a house that's being demolished.
B
Correct.
A
So they cannot rent the same house three streets over. They can't afford it.
B
Correct.
A
So they need to move to a different area.
B
Yes, sir. So that's why I just feel stuck. I feel like they're looking at me and it's not you, it's them.
A
They need to move to an area they can afford to live. They're like grown ups and stuff, right? Yeah. Maybe they need to ask.
C
I mean it. But, but in a family dynamic, I mean, I think Dave's calling out the dysfunction in that, that they're leaning on you to help them in their situation.
A
Well, or somebody made you feel guilty. I don't know whether you took it on yourself or they did.
C
Yeah. So that's what I would say to you is to. Is you have to be able to release that yourself because that is not your responsibility. Even though the dynamic may feel like it is. And there's always a weird element with adult kids when their parents are in trouble to feel like they've helped me. They raised me, they gave me a roof over my head growing up. So I, in turn, feel obligated, indebted to help them. Is that true?
B
Yes. Now, that's exactly what happened. I had to recently move back five months ago. And since they're not letting me pay any rent, that's why I feel obligated to help them.
C
Because they gave you that gift.
B
Correct.
C
Right.
A
Well.
C
And that's. And that's a false obligation.
A
Yeah. That wasn't the deal.
B
Okay.
A
The deal wasn't, you move back in and so you're indebted to us for the rest of your life.
B
Right.
A
That wasn't the deal. You move back in, don't pay us any rent, get yourself straightened up. It's a gift we can give you right now. We can't continue giving you that gift because they're making us move to demolish the house. And so now we've got to move to an area that's. That's not even what we want to do because we can't afford to live here anymore.
B
Right? Correct.
C
Lorena, how old are you?
B
I'm 26.
C
Okay.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. I just want to give you that permission to have that freedom to build your own life. And what it's going to force you to do as well is to say, oh, crap, I don't have mom and dad as a safety net anymore because it's not good for them. And ultimately it's not good for me. So I'm going to have to make hard decisions as well. And that's a tough spot. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's all coming to a head because of this situation. But I would look at it as a gift in that way.
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Podcast Information:
In the episode titled "This Isn’t Your Problem, It’s Theirs!", The Ramsey Show Highlights tackles the intricate dynamics of adult children living with their parents due to financial hardships. Hosted by Ramsey Network, the episode features a caller, Lorena, who grapples with feelings of obligation and financial constraints that prevent her from moving out. Experts on the show, including Host A and Expert C, provide insightful guidance to help Lorena navigate her predicament.
Lorena, a 26-year-old, reaches out to the show expressing her frustration and uncertainty about moving out of her parents' house. Her situation is compounded by both her own and her parents' financial struggles.
Financial Dependency: Lorena explains, "[…] since I moved back in, I've been trying to get rid of my debt and start following the baby steps" ([00:29]-[00:37]). She clarifies that while she doesn't pay rent, her presence is vital for her parents, who are facing imminent eviction due to city-planned demolitions.
Emotional Burden: She feels that leaving would negatively impact her parents, stating, "I don't think they could move into a new house without you" ([01:01]-[01:08]).
Host A begins by dissecting Lorena's concerns, challenging the notion that her leaving would be detrimental.
Net Gain Clarification: A points out, "But there's no net loss to them when you leave. It's a net gain" ([01:12]-[01:17]), highlighting that Lorena paying rent would ultimately benefit her parents by alleviating their financial strain.
Societal Expectations: A stresses the importance of resetting expectations, stating, "Everybody's got to reset their expectations in this" ([01:35]-[01:39]).
Expert C delves deeper into the emotional and familial aspects of the situation.
False Obligations: C observes, "That's a false obligation... that wasn't the deal" ([03:04]-[03:07]), emphasizing that Lorena should not feel perpetually indebted to her parents for their past support.
Encouraging Independence: C advises Lorena to "have that freedom to build your own life" ([03:33]-[03:40]), suggesting that independence is beneficial for both her and her parents.
Assessing Financial Realities:
Emotional Liberation:
Long-Term Benefits:
Practical Steps:
Changing Mindsets:
Host A: "Everybody's got to reset their expectations in this." ([01:35]-[01:39])
Caller Lorena: "I feel like they're looking at me and it's not you, it's them." ([01:57]-[02:03])
Expert C: "That's a false obligation. Yeah. That wasn't the deal." ([03:04]-[03:07])
Host A: "The deal wasn't, you move back in and so you're indebted to us for the rest of your life." ([03:12]-[03:29])
Expert C: "I just want to give you that permission to have that freedom to build your own life." ([03:33]-[03:40])
"This Isn’t Your Problem, It’s Theirs!" offers a compassionate yet pragmatic approach to addressing the financial and emotional complexities of adult children living with their parents. By challenging existing guilt and promoting financial independence, The Ramsey Show Highlights empowers listeners to make informed decisions that benefit both individual growth and family dynamics. Lorena's story serves as a relatable example, illustrating the importance of setting healthy boundaries and prioritizing personal financial goals for long-term well-being.