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Caller
Oh, my goodness. So really excited to speak to you. I know I'm walking into the bear cage very nervous, but my husband and I, we make a combined income of almost $300,000, and we're living paycheck to paycheck. We have two kids. We have been Ramsey Ish for about two years. But life keeps getting in the way. Between funeral expenses for family, our daughter has severe adhd. And it just feels like we cannot get ahead, you know, long enough to be able just to follow the steps and the plans. And it's causing a lot of financial anxiety. And I can go into background and anything that you need to help just me. Figure out how to move forward with the amount of money that we have. And living paycheck to paycheck, it just. It's. It's foolish.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. Well, it's distressing for you. I can tell. And so you live in an expensive city, obviously.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
And obviously you've got an expensive medical condition that you're dealing with. And those two things go in the budget, and they show up in the budget. Some of the. Some ways they show up in the budget. So where do you think the problem is? If you were to write. If, you know, I assume you've attempted some kind of written budget.
Caller
Yes, I have every dollar, premium version. I have notes in front of me. So our budget. So here's what seems to be happening. We do have a budget. Could we be better at it? Absolutely. But what keeps happening is, are these large purchase large bills, if you will. So about a year and a half ago, our mother passed and we covered the funeral expenses.
Dave Ramsey
Why did they not have arrangements to cover her funeral expenses?
Caller
Answers, unfortunately, and this may be where my financial anxiety comes from. My parents raised a very large family on a single income from my father and did not have financial, you know, responsibility, basically, and, you know, just really.
Dave Ramsey
So there was absolutely no assets in the estate.
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Dave Ramsey
So there Was absolutely no assets in the estate, Correct?
Caller
Exactly. None whatsoever.
Co-host
What'd you spend on the funeral?
Caller
About 13 grand.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Co-host
And so you said, big things keep coming up. So the funeral was one. What's another example of something that's coming out of the blue?
Caller
Yes. So my brother just passed away, sadly, a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I know it's. I know it's been a rough two years, so that's another expense. But in between then, what has come up?
Dave Ramsey
I mean, you're paying for that funeral too, Correct.
Co-host
How are you? Are you cash flowing it? What's that look like?
Caller
So that was. You know, this is where my problem is, because all I want to do is cash flow it. And it feels that I'm not limited to.
Dave Ramsey
Your brother's different than your mother. Why is no one. There's no. Is he single?
Caller
He is single.
Dave Ramsey
Or was he.
Caller
Yeah, he was. Sorry. He was single. And you know, really, right now, out of a few of us kids, it's. My sister and I are really the only ones that are the most financially stable.
Co-host
Okay. So how much did you pay for your brother's funeral?
Caller
8,000.
Co-host
And you. You did not pay cash.
Caller
Correct. We put that on a credit card.
Co-host
Okay.
Caller
And I.
Dave Ramsey
So that didn't. That didn't bust your budget. It broke your bubble, but not your budget. So why can't you live on 300k?
Caller
I'm calling.
Dave Ramsey
No, I'm serious. When you write down your budget, what's the problem? Because you're looking at it in front of you on every dollar, right? Where' freaking money going?
Co-host
These are two isolated incidents. What's been happening over the years. What do you see? Where do you see the problem?
Dave Ramsey
When you look at month to month, you got 25,000 bucks minus taxes coming in. And so you got. You know, you're dealing with 20 grand or so to live on.
Caller
Take home is 13,600amonth.
Dave Ramsey
There's something wrong with that.
Co-host
Does it feel right? Is that minus half of what it ought to be?
Caller
So I bring home 8,000. My husband brings home 56. He pays for insurance out of his check, and we both do contribute to retirement.
Co-host
Okay, that's the problem.
Caller
Yeah. 15%.
Dave Ramsey
You have no money. You don't put money in retirement. You stop. Yeah, stop. And get it budgeted. And what else you got? Have you got big tax refunds coming?
Caller
No, we owe every year for the last couple years. So now we've asked our employees, how.
Dave Ramsey
Much is your rent or your house payment?
Caller
Our mortgage is 2,700.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
And how much are your car debts?
Caller
We paid off my husband's car and mine. I have 8,000 that we're looking to pay off as well.
Dave Ramsey
What other debts do you have?
Caller
We have two credit cards. Our total debt, including this funeral now, is 17,800.
Dave Ramsey
You don't have much debt, so that's not where it's going. It's not your house payment. That's not where it's going.
Co-host
You have kids in daycare? Lots of kids.
Caller
Well, we have two children, and that's what I was going to get to. It's like, how do we. So our daughter's ballet. It's ridiculous. I'm afraid of what your response is going to be. It's $10,000 a year. Our son.
Co-host
That's not the problem. That's not the problem either.
Dave Ramsey
I'm trying to figure out, what, 800 bucks a month?
Co-host
Yeah. What's eating up $20,000 a month? And I haven't seen it because you have 8,000 on the car. These credit cards. What. I mean, what's the payment on the credit cards? What do you pay every month? Nothing.
Caller
So here. What we end up. No, what we end. What we seem to be in the cycle of is banking money and then paying off the debt. Right. Trying to do the snowball because you're.
Dave Ramsey
Trying to make up your own freaking plan. So let me ask. What do you do for a living? What's your husband do for a living?
Caller
He is a teacher, and I am a school psychologist that moved into administration, so I'm a principal.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. All right. Both of you are in administrative type roles. And so if I hired you and said, balance these people's budget that make 300k, you could do it.
Caller
Mm.
Dave Ramsey
It's not an intellectual circus. It's not that hard.
Caller
Right.
Dave Ramsey
So you could do it. But there's something. You aren't working together. You're not willing to say no to eating out. You're not willing to stop your retirement savings. You're not willing to get, you know, to sit down and let's get this. This thing has to balance. You're not in Congress.
Caller
I know.
Dave Ramsey
And you guys have to look at this with a more serious eye. It sounds like you're just. It sounds like you keep circling around the airport and have refused to land. Yeah.
Co-host
Because if you're really. If she's really saying that the only debt they have is 17,000 in credit cards and 8,000 in cars, that money's something. Is. She's not telling us.
Dave Ramsey
They're spending money on $10,000 here on ballet. And then, you know, and ADHD was probably 10 or 15 grand on something they overdid. And so you overdo everything, and you're living drama to drama, crisis to crisis, and you're letting that stuff dictate your life rather than you dictating to that stuff. And so let's pretend you didn't have any money and your brother died. Well, who's going to pay for the funeral? I guess it wouldn't be you. So we have to start thinking about these things, or we're going to do the $1,200 cremation. You know, this is what happens. If you die and there's no one to take care of you, the state will cremate you. That's what happens. Okay? And so I'm not suggesting being that cold, but you guys got to start looking at some of these things and quit call them all. These crises are taking precedent, and you've got to take precedent over the crisis because the budget becomes king, and the two of you have to be working on it together. I don't think he's real involved here. Create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
The Ramsey Show Highlights: "We Make $300,000 A Year But Still Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck"
Release Date: July 15, 2025
Host: Ramsey Network
In this episode of The Ramsey Show Highlights, the Ramsey Network delves into the paradox of high earners who still find themselves trapped in the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle. Despite a combined income of nearly $300,000 annually, a caller shares her struggles with financial instability, highlighting how unexpected expenses and lack of effective budgeting can undermine even substantial incomes. Experts, including Dave Ramsey, provide insights and actionable advice to help listeners break free from financial anxiety and achieve true financial stability.
[00:06] Caller:
The caller introduces herself as a nervous participant facing significant financial anxiety despite a high household income. She explains that her husband and she earn a combined $300,000 a year but are still living paycheck-to-paycheck. They have two children and have been following the Ramsey plan for two years. However, unforeseen expenses, such as funeral costs and her daughter's severe ADHD treatment, have disrupted their financial progress.
Key Concerns:
[00:58] Dave Ramsey:
Dave Ramsey acknowledges the caller’s distress and identifies living in an expensive city and managing a costly medical condition as primary budgetary pressures. He probes whether the caller has attempted a written budget, to which she confirms using the EveryDollar app.
[01:23] Caller:
She elaborates on their budget, highlighting that large, unexpected expenses like funeral costs have disrupted their ability to stick to the plan, leading to financial anxiety.
[02:45] Dave Ramsey:
Ramsey emphasizes that having no assets in the estate exacerbates the financial strain, questioning why her parents hadn't planned for funeral expenses.
[03:15] Caller:
The caller shares that her brother's recent passing added another $8,000 in funeral expenses, which they had to place on a credit card, further straining their finances.
[04:12] Dave Ramsey:
Ramsey questions how a $300,000 income results in a take-home pay of only $13,600 monthly, indicating potential mismanagement of income despite a high salary.
[05:05] Caller:
She reveals that they owe taxes every year and have limited cash flow, with substantial portions of income allocated to expenses like a $2,700 mortgage and $10,000 annually for ballet classes.
[06:08] Caller:
Attempts at debt snowballing have led to cycles of accruing and paying off debt without making significant progress.
Budget Discrepancies:
Financial Planning Failures:
Collaborative Budgeting:
Retirement Savings Adjustment:
Debt Management:
Dave Ramsey [00:58]:
“So where do you think the problem is? If you were to write a written budget...”
Caller [02:13]:
“None whatsoever.”
Dave Ramsey [04:12]:
“You have no money. You don't put money in retirement. You stop. Yeah, stop.”
Dave Ramsey [07:07]:
“These crises are taking precedent, and you've got to take precedent over the crisis because the budget becomes king.”
This episode underscores that a high income does not automatically equate to financial security. Without disciplined budgeting, prioritizing essential expenses, and effective debt management, even substantial earnings can dissipate quickly in the face of unexpected costs. The Ramsey Network advises listeners to:
By addressing these areas, high earners can escape the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle and achieve lasting financial peace.
For more insights and personalized financial advice, consider tuning into future episodes of The Ramsey Show Highlights or utilizing the EveryDollar budgeting tool to take control of your financial future.